Learn About the Inventor of Jazz with Wynton Marsalis | Amanpour and Company

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@gsco82
@gsco82 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I didn't know that Wynton came to jazz as an adult after playing other genres of music. I did know of his admiration of Louis Armstrong.
@melaniemaniscalco2060
@melaniemaniscalco2060 4 жыл бұрын
It isn't often that you get to see a talent like this. Wynton is a genius.
@IIrandhandleII
@IIrandhandleII 4 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@BopWalk
@BopWalk 4 жыл бұрын
@ Perhaps Bolden was the earliest "documented" improviser on the cornet.
@stevebeimler2579
@stevebeimler2579 Жыл бұрын
Him and his whole family are a celebration of all that is good with the human soul! ❤️
@shgarrett624
@shgarrett624 2 жыл бұрын
Wynton is the Truth...I just love Wynton
@atibaomar1341
@atibaomar1341 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant and righteous man
@lohphat
@lohphat 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not alone on feeling how self-destructive rap is. It IS the “new minstrel show”. It reinforces the worst of a culture which is worthy of so much more.
@vetlerradio
@vetlerradio 3 жыл бұрын
It's just pop music, real musicians will always find more musical ways to express themselves. There are even some rappers that use jazz harmony in their pieces, which can be quite experimental, like the music of Kendrick Lamar, Mac Miller and Tyler the Creator.
@donny_bahama
@donny_bahama 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@illitrait
@illitrait 3 жыл бұрын
...if you had bothered listening to Marsalis, lohphat, you would have heard him carefully distinguish between rap (the style of music) and the chosen subject of its lyrics. It is the latter which Marsalis takes umbrage against - he once again reiterated that has no issues with the lyrical or musical style. Hope this helps.
@Etatdesiege1979
@Etatdesiege1979 3 жыл бұрын
Rap? Minstrel show? Come on now. Get serious please.
@lohphat
@lohphat 3 жыл бұрын
@@Etatdesiege1979 Serious? Like the last Grammy show? How did we get from Duke Ellington and Ella Fitzgerald to that unmitigated trashy CRAP?
@olivierherment1188
@olivierherment1188 4 жыл бұрын
Merci Mr Marsalis
@johnjacquard863
@johnjacquard863 3 жыл бұрын
inspiration to me in such a huge way.
@mickdevlin
@mickdevlin 11 ай бұрын
He makes the impossible look easy.
@timothymorgan764
@timothymorgan764 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that Jelly Roll Morton invented Jazz; I learned something new today. How long after Bolden did Morton make his mark? Love Wynton; love him, his music 🎶 and talent.
@JacoWium
@JacoWium Ай бұрын
Morton was 13 years younger and lived in the same area as Bolden, so he'd have been a teenager when Bolden's band still ruled the local circuit. Morton paid tribute to Bolden in his compositions and live performances, so it's safe to assume he saw and heard Bolden play while growing up. But yes, Bolden (not to forget his peers) is recognised as the pioneer. The style, in fact, was informally known as 'jass' during Bolden's playing days and only became 'jazz' as the name of the genre after he was institutionalised in 1907.
@timothymorgan764
@timothymorgan764 Ай бұрын
@@JacoWiumThanks
@mikemccowan9454
@mikemccowan9454 3 жыл бұрын
Legend
@IBODEGAI
@IBODEGAI 9 ай бұрын
He even speaks melodically. It falls out of him. WM is the greatest.
@hamauekatsuhiko809
@hamauekatsuhiko809 Жыл бұрын
セルマーバランスモデルでジャルディネリの17mm超えのポップスのマウスピース。マルサリスは昔から屁理屈こねくり廻すけども、コルネットにしろトランペットにしろ、出てくる音は本物。いつまでも吹いてください。尊敬しています。
@Biagio918
@Biagio918 2 жыл бұрын
can anyone tell me the model of this cornet?
@user-rn1lb8sx2c
@user-rn1lb8sx2c 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda weird seeing wonton play some other horn than his monette
@ephraimpinckney8209
@ephraimpinckney8209 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Its cool he's using LA's mouthpiece though.
@Rightupbass
@Rightupbass Жыл бұрын
We all know its not the horn..its the person playing
@mseminara
@mseminara 3 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing this man can’t do
@tooter1able
@tooter1able 3 жыл бұрын
Wynton, I met you live once a long time ago and frankly was impressed with your musicianship but NOT you personality. I found you frankly opinionated , almost self-righteous and completely judgmental in your attitudes . This interview is certainly encouraging . I think I probably had rose-colored glasses. Still impressive technique hopefully warmer soul. Thank you. Love the band. Best wishes in making jazz the music of America not just an essential element of Black Culture. Thank you for sharing your real feelings.
@danyelnicholas
@danyelnicholas Жыл бұрын
Most of the early Jazz musicians were Creoles and hence catholic. So I tend to think the Sanctfied church drew on some of the same sources rather then being a great influence on early Jazz.
@TerranceNgassa
@TerranceNgassa 11 ай бұрын
It Would be great if Mr . W. MARSALIS could have the Gut to take a clear Stand on Civil rights and Human rights and equality in General. Armstrong, M. Davis , Dizzy and Duke , did took stands at One point in their lives, that almost Cost them biasedly their career. But their Statements were balance justified and dignified.
@theodorusrexicon5760
@theodorusrexicon5760 3 жыл бұрын
Amanpour is such a dunce - Wynton, by contrast - is the best Trumpet player I've ever heard.
@ricaard
@ricaard 2 жыл бұрын
Conn Director ❤🎺❤
@jamessidney2851
@jamessidney2851 4 жыл бұрын
Huh? Buddy Bolden INVENTED jazz? The title of this video is a little bit nuts, but you know that, right? Bolden predates recording technology. Nobody can say he invented jazz. Yes, Wynton is an icon. You can’t argue with his knowledge of early New Orleans trumpet styles. His demonstration of it is super impressive, mind-blowing in fact. But this pretending/imagining he was there, and speaking to us authoritatively about Bolden’s inspirations and influences really pushes the envelope of believability. At times it seems he is just describing the movie. At other times it seems like he’s offering us historical fact (which is, frankly, disingenuous and kind of weird). As a lifelong lover of and student of jazz, I would like to state that there is no way one could divine these kinds of finely-tuned details about Bolden’s playing through some pipeline of anecdotes or knowledge inferred through listening to recordings from Armstrong vis-a-vis King Oliver, even if you ARE the supremely brilliant Wynton Marsalis. Please change the title of this video. It does a tremendous disservice to the many many thousands of people who came from all over the world, willingly or through slavery, and found themselves thrown together in New Orleans, in the Unitied States of America, the only place on the globe where amazing African rhythms and tonalities would interact with crusty but beautiful old European harmonies, to make something completely unique to all of humankind, and become America’s single most significant contribution to the arts, Jazz. The invention of jazz is so much bigger than just one person. Good day.
@da11king
@da11king 4 жыл бұрын
Very eloquently said ... I side with you on this one.
@jeffreyd700
@jeffreyd700 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why you have problems with anecdotes or stories. That is how knowledge was passed down in the African tradition. Because of the ugly history of America many blacks were not afforded an education to read or write. So the recorded experiences we have of African Americans of past include anecdotes, interviews, and legends.
@thiago140893
@thiago140893 4 жыл бұрын
With all due respect... jazz is a American art form and black American to be precise... there’s no african paying jazz or European playing jazz before black Americans...
@jamessidney2851
@jamessidney2851 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you got the point. That is exactly what I was saying. But the point is AfricanS. Not AfricaN. There is no single inventor of jazz. I’m sure Wynton would agree if he weren’t promoting a movie he produced. But I do love Wynton. He is amazing and such a powerful player and despite all the professional and institutional pressures of being in his position he still manages to inspire joy every time he performs. Wynton is okay by me. Buddy Bolden did not “invent” jazz.
@gocu54
@gocu54 3 жыл бұрын
Buddy Bolden was the first person to really lead a true Jazz band and unfortunately, we only have a dim photo of him and none of his music but you can't deny that without him, there would not be much influence in the Jazz world.
@mikeepoxymoronmason8211
@mikeepoxymoronmason8211 2 жыл бұрын
47 yr old white boy from Pennsylvania, i just returned from new Orleans, when i went around lee circle i remembered vaguely that they had removed that trader from up there, bigotry and racism are uninformed and ignorant
@automationcommunity
@automationcommunity Жыл бұрын
😀😃😄
@metaphor5533
@metaphor5533 Жыл бұрын
노사연 역시 미국교포 출신이라 영어가 ㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷ
@jwmc41
@jwmc41 3 жыл бұрын
I suspect the ‘re-imagination’ doesn’t have much to do with the reality. Especially the ‘revelatory’ practice session. But no matter, jazz genius goes mad is a good story true or not.
@gocu54
@gocu54 3 жыл бұрын
It is unfortunate that we don't have recordings of Bolden's music. This is the best we have because we have nothing of his time.
@jwmc41
@jwmc41 3 жыл бұрын
@@gocu54 just wondering if this ‘best’ is actually anything at all
@JacoWium
@JacoWium Ай бұрын
@@jwmc41 Loads of people who lived in New Orleans at the time wrote about Bolden and his band, or said things that were written by others. That includes some of his fellow bandmembers. Yes, there are vast empty spaces between the dots but the dots can be connected. But of course, we'll never know the full story or much of the influences on Bolden himself. Yet enough is known to acknowledge him as a notable jazz pioneer, just like enough is known about Johann Sebastian Bach as a baroque pioneer.
@jwmc41
@jwmc41 Ай бұрын
Quite!
@manuelkong10
@manuelkong10 7 ай бұрын
taking down statues is an act of Great cowardice....it's saying, it's pretending "this never happened"...or should not have happened... but it did and it needs to be seen and remembered
@honoredutrey
@honoredutrey 3 жыл бұрын
Trumpet player Nick La Rocca,and Jelly Roll Morton both claimed that they "invented" jazz ! Nobody knows what Buddy Bolden sounded like. For all we know he might have been a terrible player.
@dufasaurjoe2899
@dufasaurjoe2899 4 жыл бұрын
To say someone invented something comes from a desire to personalize and simplify something that is very complex and involves many people and maybe even animals. What about aboriginals in africa listening to bird and animal sounds. Where did african rhythms come from? African rhythms came across by men playing gourd and if you add some strings -early banjo like instruments. If you add European instrumentation to this mix you get rhythmic music like Ragtime- which though rhythmic is based on a march. But music like blues- where does the earlier banjo music and later guitar fit in? What about all the people involved with inventing musical instruments? You didn't have Jazz until you have the instruments to play it. Beethoven played some pretty funky stuff in his last piano Sonata Opus 111. Some say he was of dark complexion= hey what gives?
@thiago140893
@thiago140893 4 жыл бұрын
With all due respect... Jazz is an American art form... nothing to do with Africa.
@norabiddogz8673
@norabiddogz8673 3 жыл бұрын
@@thiago140893 It has its roots in Africa. I am a South African Jazz student (Trumpet) and our traditional music from the Zulu, Tswana, or Sotho cultures has had all the elements that Jazz has today such as 'Call and Response' which Americans tribute to originate from the Blues (of which especially in my culture of seTswana is a big thing in our funeral songs and our rite of passage ceremonies), 6/2 Polyrhythms and Syncopation, etc. The only bits that America and the western world contributed to these musical elements, were European harmonies, song form as well as the instrumentation making the framework of Jazz. These elements of Jazz aren't even limited to the aforementioned South African tribes. Listen to music from Mali and you will hear the Blues (in my opinion) in its purest form. Without African traditional music, there are no Blues and furthermore no Jazz. Respect Africa, please. As Wynton himself said in this interview, there is always a passing down of knowledge from each generation of musicians. This is true for cultures and their music.
@Liberated_from_Religion
@Liberated_from_Religion 3 жыл бұрын
@@thiago140893 The next thing you will say is "Samba is Brazilian, it has nothing to do with Africa".
@LuckyPoop
@LuckyPoop Жыл бұрын
It's funny how Africa Americans think they invented all forms of music, when they are using instruments that were invented by east west Europeaners. The saxophone was invented by Adolphe Sax who also invented the saxotromba, saxhorn and saxtuba and was used long before they ever came to America. It's strange in America how African Americans in Hollywood media give no credit to the people who really invented the music that they adopted, you could even call it cultural appropriation if you want to use that term.
@freebirddude
@freebirddude Жыл бұрын
I understand your point about the origins of instruments. However, African Americans took the music they were shown and created a completely different genre of music. It is well earned title to say they created jazz, but to say they created all forms of modern day music is a far fetch. I agree, we need more showcasing of the generations of people who engineered the instruments and music we play today. The media shows you only the people who align with hollywood, but not the millions musicians including african american musicians who know the true history of how these genres formed and cherish it.
@urameshi6254
@urameshi6254 11 ай бұрын
Lol you are so off base. Learn what music invention is.
@BopWalk
@BopWalk 4 жыл бұрын
Wynton is a living legend, a modern day jazz ambassador! He would make Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie proud.
@BopWalk
@BopWalk 3 жыл бұрын
@Kelvin Callen After careful consideration, I chose to ignore your comment.
@LouisJr
@LouisJr 4 жыл бұрын
He’s a National Treasure... Far More Than Just Talent
@coolkid-od1ub
@coolkid-od1ub 4 жыл бұрын
Wynton the best
@giovannifranzetti6214
@giovannifranzetti6214 4 жыл бұрын
cool kid the more I hear from him, the more I think.. great great communicator
@coolernie65
@coolernie65 4 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Wynton all day long.
@rreid3990
@rreid3990 2 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@philpowell3416
@philpowell3416 Жыл бұрын
We are so lucky to have this man as an American. Especially now. Thank you, Mr. Marsalis.
@IIrandhandleII
@IIrandhandleII 4 жыл бұрын
Solid character in the deepest sense.
@thinktwice4565
@thinktwice4565 4 жыл бұрын
Great Wynton. Such a wise and intelligent man .!
@louisthompson1020
@louisthompson1020 7 ай бұрын
The more I hear Wynton play and talk the more I realize that he may be one of the greatest musicians that has ever lived.
@zangsax
@zangsax 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent conversation! So enlightening, Thank you.
@marktaylor420
@marktaylor420 3 жыл бұрын
I came on a similar journey to wynton. I started trumpet 50 years ago because of Louis Armstrong. I took a detour in classical and contemporary. Now only gospel and jazz. I got souled out!
@myseanmiller3186
@myseanmiller3186 3 жыл бұрын
Masterful yet so gangster with knowledge many have no idea how much of a leader he is... fighting for the ppl.
@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul
@BlackRootsAcademyOfSoul 2 жыл бұрын
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👌🏿👌🏿👊🏿🖤🖤 What a Man! Greetings from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤
@bronxkies
@bronxkies 4 жыл бұрын
I really dig an aged Wynton. Very humble and friendly guy nowadays (or, so it seems).
@bronxkies
@bronxkies 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Stark Huh? I said it seems because I don't know him personally. When I was a kid I didn't like the guy at all. I'm a music teacher now and have gained a new appreciation for him. I even had a chance to chat with him recently and he was quite pleasant. I don't get where your ire is coming from. What a silly comment...
@MauriatOttolink
@MauriatOttolink 4 жыл бұрын
@@bronxkies Sorry that I get to give only ONE thumbs up!
@danielhegeman5851
@danielhegeman5851 3 жыл бұрын
@Jim Stark hahahahahaha
@illitrait
@illitrait 3 жыл бұрын
"I really dig an aged Wynton. Very humble and friendly guy nowadays (or, so it seems)." ...some say he is still an arrogant little turd, K P, but that he has now learnt duplicity.
@annowens5019
@annowens5019 Жыл бұрын
The time, kindness and generosity Wynton Marsalis extended to my 10 year old daughter, after a concert at UCLA's, Royce Hall are moments I've never forgotten. He was exceptional, on and off stage. My daughter is now 40 years old. Mr. Marsalis' Parents must have been extraordinary individuals.
@Verbsdescribeus
@Verbsdescribeus 3 жыл бұрын
what a great honor to attend 2 of his live concerts in Europe July 2nd :)
@BrennenL
@BrennenL Жыл бұрын
Intriguing video!
@donny_bahama
@donny_bahama 3 жыл бұрын
Musically, socially, and personally, Wynton Marsalis is one of the greatest human beings to ever walk the planet. I’d give just about anything to sit and have a conversation with him. He is so inspiring in so many ways. Just... wow.
@MrRichmattson
@MrRichmattson 8 ай бұрын
This is so good. I’ve always been sad when tremendously talented folks like Eddie Murphy make movies that reinforce stereotypes
@jacksonrussellband
@jacksonrussellband 2 ай бұрын
Such great conversation. I'm a big fan of Wynton Marsalis. Mr. Isaacson is also a great interviewer. Thanks for sharing... 🙏
4 жыл бұрын
Who thumbs down this? Lol Dear god, the 60secs or so about Louis is enough to educate even the dullest of us
@JohnMoodie-r3v
@JohnMoodie-r3v 7 ай бұрын
Wynton is a musician an olso a teachér
@TheNelsonmonteiro
@TheNelsonmonteiro 2 жыл бұрын
He's a music encyclopedia...
@pauldavies9360
@pauldavies9360 2 жыл бұрын
Wynton needs to play the Cornet alot more!
@meshachlakatani1979
@meshachlakatani1979 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing !!!!!
@nicoleross7829
@nicoleross7829 4 жыл бұрын
love it!
@deskwerks
@deskwerks Жыл бұрын
I've always respected, and even admired Wynton, even while being completely aware of the hatred heaped on him by certain sectors of the music community. To me (and apparently many of the commentors here) his contribution to the art (and many other subjects) far out-weighs what may be fairly accurate criticisms of his 'outspoken' public commentary.
@mickdevlin
@mickdevlin 11 ай бұрын
This is the best interview Wynton ever gave. I just love the standards he's done on record, but with his dad Ellis? Who I was lucky enough to share a word with in Manchester? Buy it. Standard Time 3. Two geniuses doing their thing.
@WM_Nonsense
@WM_Nonsense Жыл бұрын
1:43 why did I think he was playing little Spanish flea💀
@jackwilloughby239
@jackwilloughby239 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I hope Walter will write a book about Wynton. I hope Wynton will write a Musical: "Bolden". And I hope they both will start to talk about Louis Moreau Gottschalk, to whom (at the age of 13) Chopin said, "Give me your hand, my child; I predict that you will become the king of pianists." And I hope anyone who reads this, will read "Pops: A Life of Louis Armstrong" by Terry Teachout. Pops was influenced by Mahler, Verdi and Wagner. So, it's no joke that he played everything "Modern". Just ask Branford.
@chasefreak
@chasefreak 3 жыл бұрын
Thank GOD Louis Armstrong switched from Cornet to Bb Trumpet in 1928
@pauldavies9360
@pauldavies9360 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@chasefreak
@chasefreak 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauldavies9360 or else we would all still be playing Cornets that’s why
@SonofStLouis
@SonofStLouis 3 ай бұрын
There is no single “inventor” of jazz it was a music that developed organically through a combination between blues and sounds of the slaves from west Africa that developed in to early black american music with the instrumental technique of Europe and American roots Basically street musicians and classically trained musicians combined their skills in New Orleans in places like Congo square and it transformed up the Mississippi But there is no one inventor that’s incredibly inaccurate and naive
@Steve-mp7by
@Steve-mp7by 17 күн бұрын
ugh nothing worse than a Jazz snob
@timothymorgan764
@timothymorgan764 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@joanirgomesfranco4267
@joanirgomesfranco4267 2 жыл бұрын
O mais completo da atualidade!!!
@katherandefy
@katherandefy 2 жыл бұрын
I am so psyched to see Winton!!!
@iDannyism
@iDannyism 2 жыл бұрын
An absolute hero and wonderful musician.
@menyherthorak1631
@menyherthorak1631 3 жыл бұрын
Louis Armstrong Miles Davis Wynton Marsalis Are the trumpets!
@morfarviksturmm2652
@morfarviksturmm2652 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot DIZZY and Roy E. They were the best.
@alexfoote7475
@alexfoote7475 3 жыл бұрын
Also forgot Arturo Sandoval and Maynard Ferguson
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out 2 жыл бұрын
and Freddie and Lee Morgan
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out
@MarkTarmannPianoCheck_it_out 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfoote7475 nah. those 2 were never on the innovative genius level and their playing doesn't resonate through all music and styles and cultures. like pops Miles Diz Freddie . for a technically oriented trumpeter like you maybe. You might as well include Doc Severenson. No you better not try , please! I have heard trumpeters rank Doc as the " greatest". OMG. Really? Doc? He was good, but was not a great artist, if you include innovative and unique as criteria. Pops Miles Diz. those 3 did. brought the music forward. defined it and an era.
@elooreva318
@elooreva318 11 ай бұрын
very emotional
@TheodorusRex
@TheodorusRex 3 жыл бұрын
Amanpour can't see anything without the race-glasses on. Wynton is the trumpet player of our time.
@lehajuhu226
@lehajuhu226 2 жыл бұрын
How is the movie called
@高山佳朗
@高山佳朗 2 жыл бұрын
06:50,08:14,10:05,17:50
@skaholic_tv
@skaholic_tv 4 жыл бұрын
Bolden title of the movie ?
@joecrowaz
@joecrowaz 2 жыл бұрын
And so on, and so forth... 💪
@christopherpaige406
@christopherpaige406 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with all he says but his opinion on the statues.
@honoredutrey
@honoredutrey 3 жыл бұрын
Many people,particularly in music colleges,think that John Coltrane and Miles Davis invented Jazz.
@jwmc41
@jwmc41 3 жыл бұрын
Not to be persnickety, but the Carnival of Venice ‘variation’ actually isn’t one. The tune just stays exactly the same with twiddly asides.
@THall-vi8cp
@THall-vi8cp 3 жыл бұрын
That's what a theme and variations is. A simple theme is played, then the theme is played again but through various levels of embelishment or alteration that increase in complexity, or in technical or musical demands. Around the turn of the 20th Century, the theme and variations style was often used in technical showpieces to be performed by prominent musicians in concert bands. The example he used for the variation is the final section of Herbert L. Clarke's _Carnival of Venice_ arrangement. (Interestingly enough, in Clarke's arrangement the soloist never plays the melody straight. It is only heard in the accompanying band.)
@jwmc41
@jwmc41 3 жыл бұрын
@@THall-vi8cp happy to stand corrected!
@ealswytheangelicrealms
@ealswytheangelicrealms 3 жыл бұрын
Odd Bolden invented jazz as claimed here when he never played a tune with the word jazz or no band he ever lead or played in used the word jazz either. I read Jelly Roll Morton did the first jazz orchestrations and he claimed he invented jazz but again he did not have a band with the word jazz in it until the 1920’s. The earliest jazz band I could find that actually used the word jazz and had the word jazz in tunes they played was the Original Dixieland Jazz Band of New Orleans who made the first jazz record in 1917. Also Bolden never made any recordings so how do you know what he played?
@humusiclab8974
@humusiclab8974 3 жыл бұрын
Lookup the history Freddie Keppard, who was to make the first "jazz' Recording, but later refused for various reasons. So the Original Dixieland Jazz Band was recorded instead. "Jazz" was not a name that many musicians wanted to be called in the beginning, as it was taken from the word "jass" or slang for the act or sex or related to that. The music in a whorerhouse was "jass music," for example. So saying "I am a jass musician" had connotations. Bolden and Keppard were well known players of New Orleans. That's how we know of them and how they played. It's called Oral History. There have been enough people to alive until 2000 to hear from them directly as to what the music of late 1800's and early 1900s actually sounded like. How do you know Bach actually played or wrote music attributed to him, even though there were no recordings of him either? Oral History and performers who continue performance practices and traditions to preserve music of eras. The exact same is for Jazz- through organizations such as the Preservation Hall Jazz Band. www.preservationhall.com/about/
@THall-vi8cp
@THall-vi8cp 3 жыл бұрын
Well, continuing that logic, since Beethoven died two years or so before the term _classical music_ was first used, we shouldn't use it to classify his music. Makes total (non)sense.
@stevenherrera4170
@stevenherrera4170 2 жыл бұрын
Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
@darz3829
@darz3829 2 жыл бұрын
It's so amazing that Marsalis knows what went on the the early 1900s! He looks so young for being 140 years old. And he knows what people back then were thinking and feeling! Plus, no recording of Bolden exists so the interpretation that Marsalis plays ( late 1920s style in addition to 1940s New Orleans street beat) is not even close to any recording of others from that era. He's pretty much full of it. Mr. Marsalis is a vary talented musician. But when talks he's ignorant and inaccurate. And when he talks about race he's very tiresome.
@greggalvarez1096
@greggalvarez1096 2 жыл бұрын
Let's hear what you have to say. Everybody will compare notes and make their own judgment about who is ignorant and inaccurate.
@darz3829
@darz3829 2 жыл бұрын
@@greggalvarez1096 Your first sentence is not specific. It is listed under a reply to my comment, but is it asking for what I have to say? I said it in my reply.
@JacoWium
@JacoWium Ай бұрын
Oh okay. Historical records of the generations before us don't exist. The existence of Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven et al is just mere speculation too. Because hey, no one alive today knew them. We cannot possibly know anything of their influence on Western music. Flawless logic.
@darz3829
@darz3829 Ай бұрын
@@JacoWium "Historical records of the generations before us don't exist." They very much do exist. Historical and musical writings. "The existence of Bach, Vivaldi, Mozart, Beethoven et al is just mere speculation too" Much contemporary information is available. " We cannot possibly know anything of their influence on Western music." You mean other than the many manuscripts that musicians use today? My complaints is that Marsalis is a mind-reader. He tells us what the early jazzers were thinking and how they were playing. And this case, you are right - no record of early early jazz was made to give us a way to confirm or deny. Marsalis seems to be wanting legitimacy by making up "facts."
@JacoWium
@JacoWium Ай бұрын
@@darz3829 Yet here you are, reading Marsalis's mind, you mind-reader you! If there is one living jazz icon with no need whatsoever of "wanting legitimacy", it is Wynton Marsalis. You speak of him as if he's a nobody who wouldn't know his subject inside out, who wouldn't have studied the numerous statements by those who lived in New Orleans during Buddy Holden's time, his fellow band members as well as other early jazz trailblazers such as Jelly Roll Morton, Bunk Johnson, Keppard, Joe King Oliver and others, including "Pops". But what would Marsalis know that us armchair dwellers don't have already? Oh yeah, he "wants legitimacy"... Good God!
@ProfRobertStewart
@ProfRobertStewart 4 ай бұрын
No one knows who INVENTED JAZZ. He was not alive in the 1800s & never HEARD Buddy Bolden play. So, he delivers his BELIEF, nothing more. 🙏🏼
@JacoWium
@JacoWium Ай бұрын
The recorded recollections of those who saw and heard Buddy Bolden in New Orleans and who all testify to Bolden being the pioneer of the genre are not mere beliefs though. That includes Jelly Roll Morton, Joe King Oliver, Bunk Johnson and other major figures of the late 19th/early 20th century era.
@ProfRobertStewart
@ProfRobertStewart Ай бұрын
@@JacoWium Hearsay is not evidence. As an EMPIRICIST, anything that cannot be shown or heard today is belief / conjecture. Bolden's audio or video recordings do not exist. He might have heard someone playing jazz, copied that person, and received the credit. No one can "show & prove" who invented jazz.
@JacoWium
@JacoWium Ай бұрын
@@ProfRobertStewart Since you are an EMPIRICIST (those caps!) who states that anything that cannot be shown or heard today is nothing but belief/conjecture, I trust you extend that ideology to Paganini, Bach, Mozart and everyone else we merely BELIEVE were pioneers in Western music. (Not to mention numerous other fields of endeavour.) For they too, could have copied someone else and claimed the credit. You cannot empirically deny that possibility. Well, it's good to know that we should just doubt recorded history and the statements of hundreds and thousands of people who've lived before us throughout the millennia, including those who lived in New Orleans between 1895 and 1907 and spoke and wrote about it, including the members of Bolden's band as well as the early jazz musicians who picked up the baton. How they'd all have missed the fact that Bolden might have copied someone else who mysteriously remained unidentified & unknown through it all, well, I guess some professor in academia who doggedly views all information through the filter of EMPIRICISM, will share the conclusions to his NSF-funded empirical research with us here in a KZbin comment section. Meanwhile, the rest of us will connect the dots that are available to us thanks to the EXISTING statements of those who knew and heard one Charles Joseph Bolden.
@ProfRobertStewart
@ProfRobertStewart Ай бұрын
@@JacoWium Humans LACK READING COMPREHENSION, so CAPS make SKIMMING impossible. Next, BOSSA NOVA was allegedly invented by a BLACK pianist (JOHNNY ALF) in 1952. His song "Rapaz De Bem" was 7 YEARS BEFORE JOBIM and the rest. They STOLE his concept & became rich. Media HATED ALF, so he is only NOW receiving CREDIT. Hope this helps. Allegedly, Darwinian Evolutionists HATED the CONTRARY DISCOVERIES of the father of GENETICS (GREGOR MENDEL), so they HID his contrary discoveries from the PUBLIC for 100 YEARS. Hence, humans HIDE, DISTORT, BLACKLIST, etc., whoever or whatever they DISLIKE, and DOCUMENTS (even using the "HISTORIC METHOD") can be FORGED / EDITED, so I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING that is WRITTEN in HISTORY. Hope this helps & thanks for sharing. 🙏🏼
@ProfRobertStewart
@ProfRobertStewart Ай бұрын
​@@JacoWiumMy haters on KZbin HID my answer to you, but I posted it at the top of the thread.
@Dios67
@Dios67 Жыл бұрын
Inventor of Jazz? Beethoven.
@LuckyPoop
@LuckyPoop Жыл бұрын
It's funny how Africa Americans think they invented all forms of music, when they are using instruments that were invented by east west Europeaners. The saxophone was invented by Adolphe Sax who also invented the saxotromba, saxhorn and saxtuba and was used long before they ever came to America. It's strange in America how African Americans in Hollywood media give no credit to the people who really invented the music that they adopted, you could even call it cultural appropriation if you want to use that term.
@9UaYXxB
@9UaYXxB Жыл бұрын
@@LuckyPoop Here's a comment which will have a special relish for you, given by your KZbin tag. And special relevance. An illustrious quote, only for you... Opinions are like assh-les, everybody has one.
@LuckyPoop
@LuckyPoop Жыл бұрын
@@9UaYXxB Opinions are actually like penises, because not everyone has an Opinion.
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