America’s Lonely Future: David Frum on Trump’s “Predatory” Foreign Policy | Amanpour and Company

[@Ivar-V]

I’ll make it simple. Where ever you live, you need a living wage. This social contract was broken for the vast majority of people. Most people don’t want to move or be deprived of a dignified life. Wealth concentrated at the top does not equal prosperity.

[@philipcournoyer7024]

What the hell the USA is responsible for everyone? SO OPEN UP THE FLOODGATES F U

[@shieh.4743]

This. Right here. There might be more wealth than ever, but the wealth has not translated to the middle class.

[@jeanreynolds1425]

@@shieh.4743 There is no middle class , they be educated , but it is the poor and more poor. UGH!

[@MatZagrod]

Who is the Svengali to tell you what that number is? And it it the same in San Francisco as Dubuque Iowa? Need a sliding scale maybe? Sounds pretty complicated.

[@Nebula37]

Wealth concentrated at the top does not equal prosperity, but people all over the world live happily in conditions "without a living wage" as defined by a bunch of wealthy or upper-middle class Americans. Raising wages only results in employers and retailers raising their prices. That's exactly what has happened in the USA.

[@burkay.ozturk]

Real wages stagnated the last 30 years for all Americans except the very top. All that great wealth that has been generated during that period went almost exclusively to the top. That's just a fact. Enough with the gaslighting already.

[@timotmon]

So why do Americans continue to elect the top then? A billionaire president with a billionaire side kick in Musk? Last time he was in office he shifted more money to the 1% than anyone else with crazy tax breaks to multinational corporations. When America was considered great.. say the 1950's there was substantial taxes on the rich and the middle class thrived.

[@katem.8816]

But that is a different argument. That is what we have to deal with through our own American Law. Do something. But you can’t do it alone. It takes a movement which takes a group which takes work. And you can vote …..and the electoral college is a hindrance.

[@mendoza4789]

great post!! Dont forget Frum is also part of the group that got america into the Iraq War. He belongs in a jail cell for treason.

[@scottwebster8756]

30 ? No, going on 45 years since Reagan.

[@tridabalira5992]

Go stay in America don’t come to your countries

[@lupus7194]

"US could become a global bully" Let me re-state that for you: "could become an even worse bully than it already is"

[@WesternPatriot-v8m]

Bully? Everyone want to live in America

[@Charles-h3g]

Not Europeans. I was there. 5 countries. Asked them if they'd trade their citizenship. Said they'd never give up their health care. Nor their safety. Nor their public transportation Nor would Canadians. y​@@WesternPatriot-v8m

[@lauraw.7008]

@lupus7194 😢sadly, I agree. Our nation in SOME ways is an amazing country…BUT there is so much more we could be doing better, not only for equitable health care, but equitable education, housing, nutrition. We’ve lost touch. The disparities between the poorest & wealthiest is astronomical and getting worse.

[@eddieedmondson7698]

@@WesternPatriot-v8m Don't kid yourself son. I was going to say you're becoming a joke, but you're already there.

[@debbiem.3128]

​@@WesternPatriot-v8m 😂😂😂😂😂

[@wakingthewitch457]

What about the massive income inequality gap since the 1980s? A rising tide DID NOT lift all boats.

[@TobyThaler]

Exactly; Frum never mentions increasing inequity. He presents no data. Just arm waiving.

[@veedeef]

You're right --- income inequality did not come up in this conversation. Neither speaker addressed the unfair US tax system and massive breaks given to corporations and the super rich.

[@c.a.savage5689]

Tell that to the Reaganites. Trickle down didn't work so well, did it?

[@PeaceFan1]

It ALL Started under RONALD REAGAN!!!! He Sold Out to GE and became Pro BUSINESS and ANTI Worker, Anti Union!! He is NOT The "GREAT" President people think he was!!!

[@RR-lq3ef]

As most people don't have boats.

[@dougn2350]

Become a global bully? We have been for decades

[@TheHighlanderprime]

You’re missing the point. Global defender of democracy has not been a global bully.

[@brendanobern7403]

American bullying is nothing new.

[@WesternPatriot-v8m]

Israel runs the usa

[@ghlettered6460]

​@@brendanobern7403absolutely

[@phantom1076]

​@@TheHighlanderprimelol defender of democracy, except in Iran, Latin America, India, etc

[@girthbloodstool339]

Sometimes David Frum is just an idiot. Income inequality has exploded, it's real, it makes working class people available to fascist appeals, and he just ignores it.

[@OneLine122]

It's the middle class that vote for fascists, not the working class. They love income inequality because it means they can buy more stuff like a rich person would.

[@girthbloodstool339]

@@OneLine122 the middle class didn't lose their jobs to unfree Chinese labour. Thanks, neoliberalism.

[@RK-rd4ll]

So you think Trump is going to be the savior to reduce income inequality?

[@girthbloodstool339]

@@RK-rd4ll ha ha ha fuck no!

[@bdadolph]

No Frum points out we are wealthier than we used to be

[@jeromemckenna7102]

David Frum is wrong here. Workers are left behind.

[@Kingtut672]

And DJT gonna bring them forward?? Come on man!!!

[@junanougues]

I don't think anyone realizes yet the scale of the social and political catastrophe this election represents to everyone. At bottom, we are dealing with the triumph of the philosophy of predation and might makes right over the rule of law, a fundamental shift in government and culture. Also, its well worth mentioning the income inequality disparity which Thomas Picketty documents with geometric precision in chart after chart after chart in his book, all hard data. That played and still plays a significant role. Elite greed cutting tens of millions from the American dream. When people cant afford homes or send kids to college. And see themselves falling behind even to immigrants, that has an impact. David, maybe you ought to read Picketty's thick volume, at least some. We are in a lot of trouble. Rule of gangster law is here. The fall of Rome, that sort of thing, because of greed. That's where we are heading.

[@ginzo666]

Those heavy industry jobs ain't coming back. Don't shoot the messenger.

[@3eschmitt]

Frum very clearly says that the primary common element in all the Western Nations experiencing a right wing shift is mass migration.

[@imveryhungry112]

​@ginzo666 yes they are 😂😂😂 you just want american workers to fail 😂😂

[@modireli1318]

America is lonely now. America as the world's largest economy and military for decades could have made the world a better place. Rather it went paranoid. It chose bullying, threats, conflict creation, unwise covert regime changes to protect its stance. Now the world has lost respect for America and is trying to find its own way. America could have chosen peace, cooperation, honest mediation etc.

[@jim2376]

Nonsense. Reads like something out of Putin's Ministry of Rubbish. Long on conclusory generalizations and utterly lacking in specifics.

[@TheHighlanderprime]

The real problem now is Trump, an American fascist. None of the stuff you mentioned have been the problem that Trump is.

[@modireli1318]

@jim2376 if you knew a bit of history you would have been aware of the long long list of specifics. Too long a list to include in a comment.

[@BobJohnson648]

Why don't you go give Nuland a pedicure?​@@jim2376

[@jim2376]

@modireli1318 You're making an excuse because YOU have no specifics, just your unsupported opinions.

[@naturenut8790]

I totally disaggree with his assertion that the woeking class has not been left behind. He doesn't mention the declining GNP in the US. Nor doea he mention the ever growing gap between the wealthy and the poor.

[@annewhitney8809]

After WW2 there were no factories left in Europe. Things were manufactured in America because there were factories available. This boom lasted for decades until Europe rebuilt. Those jobs aren’t coming back.

[@CarlGerhardt1]

This post brought to you by the CCP.

[@NeonNights80]

​@@CarlGerhardt1Regardless there is veracity in that statement.

[@licxylugo1462]

Not even ivanka clothes are made here

[@robertmoore6338]

After WWII, the United States was the only manufacturing country that wasn't bombed to pieces. So, in 1955 the white American guy could fumble his way through high school and get a great union manufacturing job because there wasn't any foreign competition to speak of. By the seventies, Japan and Germany had rebuilt their industries and started to compete. That white guy from 1955 since then has had to deal with competition from foreign manufacturing workers, minorities, women, computers, robots, labor-saving manufacturing and construction machinery that has been developed since 1955, so he doesn't have a monopoly on manufacturing labor, so he isn't worth as much in real purchasing power. Nobody can change that. So, the corporations can be doing well without the workers doing well.

[@lorrainesherred6458]

Not true Canada was also not bombed

[@flyer49er91]

United States funded Japan & Germany rebuilding under the Marshall plan with lunch box crowd taxes. It was the US Corporate crowd who wanted to produced poor quality product, not the US worker.

[@lauraw.7008]

2:05 criticism is accurate that the general population does lose. Big business wins. The top .01% are astonishingly richer. I’m 70. My son and the children of my friends are worse off in their 30s than my friends and I were in our 30s. What is real is that we should be doing better for our ALL of our population. Not just the US, UK, etc. wealthy nations should be helping poorer nations to truly have a rising tide really helping ALL people. We have serious mental health issues among all our youth.

[@stevencole7331]

I don't have a problem the president pardoning his son . He was basically removed from the presidential election as a sitting president. The guy who won the election got away with horrendous things in the past and the things that he will do in the future will make that stuff look like small potatoes . Ok he lied on a gun approval process and a couple years of tax problems. Not murder and only hurt himself . Which he was good at doing to himself . Now does pardoning help his son? My brother always seemed to talk his way out of trouble . A judge would give him rehab for his addictive personality. In the end he died young from his problems . You could say if he got some serious jail time that could have been a motivator for change . Hunter may not learn but I think he has put his dad through allot and Biden took a hit for his son but it will be forgotten as he isn't on the target sheet anymore . A new person will occupy that space

[@wendel6]

Never forget Frum is Canadian and comes from our monstrous conservative tradition of CAmericans, right-wing Canadians enthralled and in love with the US. He romanticizes everything about the US, and so many commenters here are correct in him denying reality that the working class and now the younger middle class have been abandoned, both in the United States and Canada.

[@merlebouchr616]

But is he incorrect,even if he is Canadian?

[@uncleronstrixie]

Where in the hell has David Frum been living. We working people have been left behind, we are talking about jobs that once could provide a family with a house, car, food, clothes, vacations, educations, sometimes a second home and by the way much of the time it was one income households, these people were factory workers, carpenters, laborers, truck drivers, hell shoe salesmen could raise a family!!! Nobody will convince me that the wealth gap hasn’t been growing for decades and our standard of living continues to deteriorate every year. This is the biggest problem in society, families aren’t even the same, lives are crazier, faster and family members are all going in different directions. Things are totally different and not for the better Mr. FRUM, don’t make excuses!!

[@TheHighlanderprime]

Yeah, and the only party that’s been trying to make an effort to get you that have always been the Dems. But people chose Trump the destroyer instead.

[@annerose7571]

Exactly! My father was a union carpenter in the 50s 60s and early70s. One income, 4 kids, a modest house and a decent car. My husband was a pharmacist and I was a clinical laboratory scientist. Our 2 fulltime combined incomes that provided for 2 kids a modest house and 2 decent cars. Now my kids generation cannot afford a house, one kid and her children still live with me and the other rents a room.

[@Longtack55]

I'm thinking Al Bundy raising Peg - his devoted wife, and two ungrateful kids, as a shoe salesman.

[@abbush2921]

If you can't dazzle them brilliance , baffle them with bullshit .

[@sammonicuslux]

@@abbush2921 Frum is very good at BS.

[@davidstraight3622]

Mr. Frum, the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was an unjustifiable act of military aggression, no different from Mussolini’s invasion of Ethiopia in 1935, or Hitler’s invasion of Poland in 1939. Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11, and was not a threat to the United States. In fact, it was a bulwark against Iran, America’s principal enemy in the region. The invasion was the result of a hare-brained scheme hatched by neocons led by Dick Cheney. They, with typical American arrogance and ignorance, thought they could march into Iraq, be welcomed as liberators, establish a puppet state, and then use it to subvert or overthrow hostile regimes in the area, particularly Iran and Syria. Of course it backfired horribly. It descended into chaos (when you remove a dictator from a country that’s hopelessly disunited, it’s like taking the lid off a pressure cooker…hot scalding liquid spews in every direction). The Iranians, America’s real enemy, used the chaos to establish themselves as a dominant power player in Iraq. It’s disgraceful for Frum to try to justify the invasion of Iraq.

[@annemosbergen3951]

Frum speaks, but his words are not reality-based. He justifies without deep insight and does not have a robust view of the history of nations. Be mindful in these days of invading other nations, nations that are non-English speaking; different religions; different history & heritage. Be mindful of what you do and how you do it. I disagree with Frum - the World will never trust America again - as was the case BEFORE DONALD SHOWED UP. DONALD Swaggers as a Bully and a Dictator. HE doesn't do the actual bullying - he announces what he wants to do. Then he gives others the order to do the bullying. Don likes chaos to break things. He picks his bullys. Every Empire dies - from within!, from excesses of the Emperor, from another Empire. In the past, it was a younger Empire growing to fulfill the emperor's aspiration to be better, bigger than all. NOW, today, the frailty of national survival is predicated on Nuclear weapons self-assured Mutual Destruction. Destruction timed within 70 minutes. Unless suicidal, no one wants to nuke the world - the weapons intimidate - but the catastrophic outcomes will be world-wide radiation contamination; nuclear winter; massive numbers of humans dead from all nations - not just from the warring nations; the destruction of the Earth, its flora and fauna; scores of years living underground - to grow food, etc.; limited above ground scavenging when radiation drops. (TODAY, December 2024 - result of Chernobyl Nuclear Plant melt-down in Ukraine- any one walking on Chernobyl ground can only do that walk for 30 minutes - as radiation there will be dangerous for the human body.)

[@benchang1022]

Both are right. We are the economic envy of the world; however, that prosperity did not trickle down to the average American.

[@TheHighlanderprime]

That’s not why they voted for Trump. Ignorance and gullibility have been though.

[@dianegile2433]

nope

[@sammonicuslux]

Spot on!

[@jessematlock711]

Thank you PBS for being a voice to ask the perfect questions

[@BuhodePiedra]

“Could become” a global bully? We have been for some time no?

[@GreaterTorontoTV]

The education level in the US made it easier for industry to move to countries where the workers could read and write.

[@keiram8755]

A visitor from the Twilight Zone. "David Frum, the George W. Bush speechwriter best known for placing Iraq as part of a nonexistent “Axis of Evil” with Iran and North Korea, made a similar assessment. “What the U.S. did in Iraq was not an act of unprovoked aggression,” Frum insists in the Atlantic, before pointing to “battlefield victories,” “economic benefits,” and that “thanks to the U.S. intervention, the country has for the first time in its independent history a political system that is in some measure accountable to its people,” as upsides to these human costs. Thanks to Bush’s war, Iraqis “have gained a chance,” he concludes".

[@kevinjenner9502]

The Intercept 4/29/23. “The Atlantic Celebrates Iraq War Anniversary With Lavish Falsehoods About Iraq War”

[@lauraw.7008]

If assets/wealth were better shared, do you think there’d be so much human trafficking? So much misogyny? So much fear/anger?

[@Stoddardian]

Yes, because I care more about the existence of my people than money.

[@Delrey83]

@6:04 What the heck is he talking about? Paying money to a trafficker as a sign of global prosperity? I completely disagree with that. It's not prosperity; it's desperation. No one willingly hands over money to a trafficker unless they are in a situation so dire that they feel they have no other option. Desperation, not prosperity, drives people to take such dangerous and extreme steps. And let’s be clear: the people who end up in these situations aren’t coming with any great talents or skills to contribute to their new country. If they had the proper education or qualifications, they’d be entering the country through legitimate work visas, not risking everything with traffickers.

[@quechvermont1279]

yeah the guy is lost

[@genzigzag]

Are you kidding, you're asking Frum a known neocon and supporter of the military industrial complex and someone who is accepting of curtailing free speech what concerns we should have about Trump. Give a heads a shake.

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

I'm very happy to see people on the left call out these neocons and the military-industrial complex.

[@myradioon]

Remember when owning one single air conditioner was a luxury?

[@chapman1569]

Now it is a matter of life and death in some areas that have dangerous heat, like Florida, Texas and Arizona to name a few. I understand your point, people were more frugal and making do with what they could afford.

[@dianegile2433]

or a TV

[@michielpatrick4583]

We're old.

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

Remember when you could buy a home and raise a family on a blue-collar job?

[@bryancollins6796]

The stagnation of wealth the middle and working classes have experienced over the past 45 years is the motivator for those groups. The Billionaire-Class has massively increased their wealth during that same period. The backlash post pandemic was primarily due to wealth regression experienced by everyday citizens in western economies. The stunning fact of the last US election is the victims of the Billionaire-Class voted for the Billionaire-Class.

[@AdrianTanner-s5t]

To think that the US hasn't been a global bully for decades is just being naive or willfully ignorant.

[@valentinaela9204]

Interesting that Frum leaves out the incredible income inequality in the US and in other wealthy nations...

[@anachronistofer]

I don't think the Syrian refugees migrating into Germany in droves are doing so aspirationally.

[@kampayod]

@11.20 when he said invading Iraq and Afghanistan was about trying to bring security to those countries, I stopped listening. Unbelievably naive, this guy.

[@hirendesai8343]

What else can a Neocon say 😂

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

He's not naive, he's just evil.

[@Bat_Boy]

Stupidity is a MAGA super-power

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

Orange Man Bad

[@Mokmaster]

It's not only stupidity. It's narcissism, self-preservation, pride. The denial of facts and reality, especially about ourselves and our behaviour.

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

@@Mokmaster What is a woman?

[@megfloss]

I count on this format to have programing that is sane and factual. I give Walter credit for his strong push back on David's claim that Americans have not been left behind-- but-- this walks a fine-line of something worth publishing. The mass concentration of wealth and wages not keeping up with the costs of living is as much of a fact as the Earth is round. David is like listening to someone who thinks the Earth is flat. Mass migration and not mention climate change? It's difficult to give any credence to his any of his conclusions. The challenges we are facing are too great and there are many people who have valuable view-points to share.

[@ngana8755]

2:46 min Frum says, "The United States has become astonishingly richer." Not true. Here are the facts: " In 2022, the Black homeownership rate stood at 45 percent, only modestly higher than the level at the passage of the 1968 Fair Housing Act. This disparity in homeownership rates between Blacks and Whites has expanded over the past half-century, reaching 23.8 percentage points in 1970 and nearly 30 percentage points in 2022. Notably, the current Black homeownership rate remains well below its 2004 peak of nearly 50 percent," Source: National Housing Conference, "2023 State of Housing in Black America" by Dr. Courtney Johnson Rose, written Sunday, Nov 12, 2023.

[@renlessard]

This was a great interview. Isaacson pulled no punches but he allowed Frum to answer fully

[@dreamervanroom]

This is giving me something to think about, information helps me make decisions. Migration is also because there are so many more people in all, everywhere. Migration is also because of the drowning gulf of inequality. It is like there is a higher potential energy, a steeper slope. Get it?

[@donaldseekins6516]

Frum seems to be saying to Americans: "Hey! Stop complaining, We're better off than ever!" Americans aren't buying it . . . which is why they voted for Trump. Frum is a conservative, but he hews to the corporate Democrats' line that billionaire oligarchs are the future for this country.

[@jacquelinemarie6325]

he does seem oblivious to serious issues in the economy and the environment...not to mention the things people lack that prevent enjoyment of a truly free life...such as publicly funded quality health care and education for all...just providing and maintaining these two basic things....maybe also keep the bankers and rich investors from buying up all the housing and many services small businesses used to supply in their communities; when the few buy up everything they drive prices up and kill competition and freedom... lawlessness will not correct any of these issues...nor will greed or inequality

[@IcelanderUSer]

And that’s why billionaire tech moguls campaigned with, oh wait.

[@CdnGlobalCitzen]

America’s arrogance & ignorance is its “exceptionalism”.

[@KenOath1234]

but the alternative is worse - a world dominated by China!

[@bd3199]

America is exceptional, exceptionally bad at many things.

[@JDavidHopkins]

That’s a true & sad statement.

[@rachelerynkalish2207]

Thank you David! Always a breath of fresh air to hear your honest assessments. Stay strong and safe!

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

Honest assessments from a guy who said that Iraq had WMD?

[@bolivarrubiano5798]

I must disagree with Mr. Frum here!!!

[@seaside_freddie9930]

Respect and trust of a nation. America spent generations building that. It seems that the ill-advised wars have destroyed what little of that that remained. Now it has been replaced by fear.

[@victoriafullerton1214]

Thank you for adding a variety of perspectives from well qualified writers, editors and public intellectuals who stand by their analysis.

[@User0resU-1]

Wtf!!! How can ANYONE with 2 brain cells think what this guy thinks about Ukraine and Russia, in 2024. Astounding denial.

[@thecount1001]

"this guy" has more knowledge of geopolitics than you, and everyone you've ever encountered, to the power of 100, combined. russky troll.

[@nikoloaspapavlassopulos8919]

David Frum's answers are based on the reality of the cocoon he is living in.

[@lbr88x30]

I love Walter Isaac's. Great interview.

[@7788Sambaboy]

yep...he isn't trying to be anything but someone who is asking good solid, reasonable questions - it's not about him, it's about what someone he is interviewing is trying to say...he checks them, clarifies, counters like a good interviewer should - then all us lightweights on KZbin can post our simple opinions, pro or con, or point out our trivial grievances, in less than 50 words

[@robertrinehart9036]

We are the global bully

[@wendywilson-fall3230]

What all those northern industrial countries have in common is terrible, horrific wealth inequality and failure to assure any kind of economic security like universal health care, reason why we are so much more unhappy than our European counterparts. Frum is a certain kind of conservative not for my tastes.

[@Mokmaster]

What Northern countries are you talking about, pointing out inequality, no healthcare and no economic security ?

[@katem.8816]

This has become my FAVORITE In Depth Dive into the roiling world we find ourselves in this political world. Thank You!

[@wendyrimmer57]

How can you worry about nuclear warheads and not worry about 6 million guns in your country? Think twice

[@bdadolph]

Mr Frum is brilliant and concise, this scary

[@lawrencejeffrey9245]

David Frum and my politics could be not farther apart, but as far as I am concerned, he has nailed Trump down to a tee.

[@g.e.b.8159]

As usual, David Frum is fifty per cent right.

[@RexJordan-s8x]

Thank you

[@normanskelton]

Do you consider the cruelty of these people when you critisize Biden for the pardon?

[@Mr_Miles_45]

How many workers went from the factory to the office? How many West Virginia office workers are there? We told ppl losing their jobs in the factory to “learn to code” and they said Phuck You!

[@terryarmstrong8598]

How many of them were/are willing to move to where economic propects are better? The need to adapt ourselves to our individual circumstances is unavoidable if our lives are to get better. Life changes around us whether we like it or not. We adapt or we don't. Generations migrated to West Virginia from somewhere. Why did they do that? Because the better economic prospects were there. But things change around us whether we like it or not. We adapt ourselves to the changes or we don't.

[@supermovietimebros6770]

Nobody gives a rats fart what frum has to say. Hes captain of the elite squad. Hes in the pen 15 club

[@tassie7830]

Wow I just said exactly like that to my friends & family

[@glenrotchin5523]

The United States learned in Vietnam that brute force and bullying doesn’t work. Frum is exactly right: United States is strong because it is trusted. Was.

[@RealConnorStone]

So out of touch!

[@bensanderson7144]

11:30. Frum is taking credit for the fact that when the Soviet Union collapsed, the United States did not get nuked. And he thinks he deserves credit for this. I will let you decide.

[@gerriperreault6905]

Security for iraq was not reason. Domination was. Read PNAC document. Bill clinton turned down request to invade iraq. Bush said yes.

[@jessematlock711]

I respect this host. He is asking for right questions. That's how PBS is supposed to be for the American citizens. Not the normal orange man bad ever hour. He's seen the light if you will. My heart just grew 3 time's over. Like the Grinch😊

[@CarlGerhardt1]

PBS better do a lot more of this if they don't want their budget cut by conservative Republicans who are sick of their non-stop, inside-the-Beltway propaganda.

[@ednorton47]

This guy was a "red diaper" baby.

[@hsheist9407]

apparently a rich red diaper baby...

[@forestdweller2661]

Impressive thinker…appreciate Frum

[@VintageSoloHarmony]

David’s point about debits and credits is so important. If voters for the last 40 years had been in the habit of paying attention to the lists of reasons in favor and against each policy, such as progressive tax with low end income supplements, they would have moved to the center and the country would be in good shape. Every policy has valid arguments for and against, Iraq was partly about helping oppressed people, partly about securing oil, and so on. The “part” can be debated very amicably, which is itself a benefit!

[@fancy-on5hn]

I feel like David frames his opinions through a very narrow and privileged lens. It’s like he’s stuck in a boomer time warp himself. Very intelligent man but it’s clear that his relevance is waning. He’s unable to grasp that the world is no longer the world he clings to. Sadly it’s time for him to move aside.

[@BiNumLi]

Frum is brilliant. Listen up.

[@gabejacobs-lm8eo]

Could be a bully ! We have been pushing peoples and cultures around since the beginning, especially after Teddy Roosevelt ! Thank you for your knowledgeable discussion.

[@lauraw.7008]

16:41 unfortunately, as corporations have risen in power, they are supporting trump.

[@davidpost4216]

Why doesn’t anybody that talks about trade imbalance mention the massive difference in profits made from items that the USA exports compared to the things we import? Most American exports have almost no competition so are sold at a much higher profit margin and also enable us pay high skilled American workers much higher wages. For example I worked for a company that was the known leader in audio test. Almost no company wanted a audio analyzer from our 2 European competitors if they had the money to afford ours. We exported about 65% of our analyzers. Our $20,000 analyzers cost less than $2,000 to build. Our profit margin was pretty good and most of that profit went to well paid engineers to design future products. Can you imagine the profit from a $1,000 TV made in China with cheap labor competing with dozens of other TV manufacturers?

[@McZsh]

True until some bright person wants to expand to China. Then, you have to search for a local Venture partner. Three years later, better not take a deviation if you ride by cab. You will find a carbon copy of your factory run by a Chinese 3 miles up the street. Happened to Stihl and numerous other companies. Endgame is almost every time western blue collars losing their jobs, while the white collars move on and the MBAs collect arbitrage by simply re-importing Chinese goods. Do this over 30 years, and you have the current situation. China is a special case, that is not comparable to Germany, Japan or any other ascending country.

[@anachronistofer]

I sure hope that after Trump's inauguration that our intelligence/security agencies and our military will be on the right side of history.

[@valerieannegagnon8803]

From is gas lighting....to start he is a Canadian

[@chachaman4980]

David Frum should go on Joe Rogan….

[@majozishow]

Good questions by Walter!

[@sureshliyanage4474]

Lying at its Best - Might have to invent a special ward 😂😂😂😂

[@bensanderson7144]

There is a backstory here. David Frum is Jewish and a Harvard alum. Nobody actually knows what he does for a living. I don’t even know why he appears on the news. He has no job. He has no title. He just appears on cable news occasionally. His parents paid his tuition at Harvard and since then he merely appears on tv. He’s a dual citizen and lives mostly in Toronto and sometimes in DC. He’s a coastal elite, socially liberal, and he doesn’t really like the people of America. He has very little in common with them. This is the man who still insists that the Iraq war was a great idea. He will be history soon, and will spend the rest of his life in Canada, and will never understand Americans, and will have to live with himself, in shame and self loathing.

[@thecount1001]

everyone knows what he does for a living. he is a US citizen and lives in the US and A.

[@annerose7571]

Frum is a coastal elite, but he is certainly not a liberal. He is a died in the wool old fashioned republican who worked in the first Bush administrationl

[@hsheist9407]

@@thecount1001 huh?

[@BeatlesBowieKrimson]

How could anyone expect a parent to let their child go to prison when they have a power to stop it? Ridiculous.

[@shieh.4743]

There is a tonne of wealth inequality that explains the backlash. Those are internal policy choices.

[@doryndeanda2681]

This fool still thinks Russia is Soviet Union 😂😂

[@jamesmullins6681]

Two people one should never listen to: Peggy Noonan and David From.

[@bushsawtville2226]

The USA will feel the disdain and power of the free countries of this world.

[@richardkeeley6927]

Small communities in countries all over the world are losing citizens to larger cities at home. This phenomenon also creates a perception that we're losing our jobs to other countries. The older population is also situated in these smaller communities and they want things to change, to go back to the way things were. That's not going to happen. We're not only dealing with globalization, we're dealing with centralization in many countries. The same thing is occurring in Canada.

[@richardsimms251]

Great discussion. Thank you RS. Canada

[@jillallan8985]

What a load of rubbish.

[@IcelanderUSer]

People think a man who bankrupted casinos is going to improve their lives. He’s manufactured their grievances and told them he was going to fix them. Without anyone ever considering whether the problems were actually problems. I say let all these people get what they want. Let trump bankrupt the country and its institutions. Let’s see how much your lives will improve over the next four years. Just think of all the time you’ve wasted over the last 8 years following this grifter. Instead of actually working or creating something.

[@jim2376]

The stable genius is the little tsar's obedient servant and puppet.

[@halldorpalsson5293]

Frum needs help with his TDS!

[@georgezakusilo1584]

Likes of David Frum is the reason Americans want change. Why give a platform to a person who should have no job due his disastrous Iraq policy?

[@anisotropicplus]

Excellent interview!

[@colbr6733]

I'm a beneficiary of international trade, I see it's ridiculous to deny the current economic model leaves many either stagnant or worse off in their social/economic situation. We are also leaving the next generation with these problems too. I actually don't see solutions from politicians but acknowledging the problem exists is a start.

[@AntalDarin-ly6os]

Excellent 👍

[@gabejacobs-lm8eo]

Excellent analysis !

[@philhmp4231]

Very wise words.

[@David-l4p7d]

There are many facets by which to view wealth disparity. One in particular is the contrast between my depression era parents spending habits and those of today’s poor. Did my parents live within their means? As best they could and they struggled to watch every penny. They delayed all manner of gratification so not to pay interest on debt. There were no new expensive cars on credit. There were no thousands of dollars spent on tattoos. Many people I see out in America today have no concept of a budget. So I am saying this should not be ignored no matter the divide in wealth in America.

[@zaryalai54]

More than 99% of the comments people made wae against your arguments. Wait until the bubble bursts.

[@mrgreen1198]

Could become a world bully? Thats funny. Its been one since the end of WW2. Anyone paying attention knows that. This is just a new level

[@katynewt]

"Could" become a global bully?! Like it hasn't been since its birth...

[@JohnSmith-lf3qn]

America became a global bully when the likes of war-loving clowns like Frum started influencing US foreign policy.

[@victorbernard1256]

I think the Dems did good with older voters this time.

[@victoriafullerton1214]

this is about foreign policy.... not how we have lost our way since 1980.

[@jamesmassey356]

Could become a global bully? Are you even serious?

[@barbarapennington-cn7ky]

Considering the number of coups instigated and funded by the US. being a bully is not a novel pursuit. In central and south America the decimation of countries by corporations have left vast regions economically broken to this day. While the US ignores the penetration of China development there and in Africa.