Amar Singh Chamkila, Aattam, Baby Reindeer | Awful and Awesome Ep 349

#amarsinghchamkila #Chamkila #Aattam #BabyReindeer
While discussing headlines:
Jayashree: Does your fandom of Akshay Kumar extend to you watching his movies?
Rajyasree: No, that’s too much. I just think he’s a very good-looking man.
Jayashree: I think the last Akshay Kumar movie I watched was Garam Masala, 20 years ago.
Rajyasree: I have nothing to say to that.
This and a whole lot of awful and awesome as Rajyasree Sen and Jayashree Arunachalam discuss the films Amar Singh Chamkila and Aattam, and the series Baby Reindeer.
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[@lekhamenon8980]

"The ladies feel Diljit didn't do a good job as Chamkila"... "The subtitles were not good" "they don't explain why he sings the songs he did"... - wow, looks like these ladies and the rest of the world were watching two different films. Anyway, now I know why they say art is subjective!

[@amodhsaxena6103]

They are plain stupid, let it go. I can’t fathom why someone can’t like this film.

[@amritladhar2265]

I agree, I regret wasting my time listening to their aweful review!

[@premprakash334]

Unwilling to watch a movie, Ridiculing a movie even without watching it, assuming people who appreciated the movie to have no taste and then asking for subscription to listen to this nonsense. This episode should be put behind all possible walls not just paywall.

[@Scramboy]

It’s time they tip their hats and offer up a proper apology. They've tromped through the magnolia bushes and made a right mess of things. Are these two kin to the company's promoters? ‘Cause that's the only way they oughta have a job 'round here.

[@pratyushmund8932]

Guys please employ some legit Movie Reviewers. News Laundry does a good job but these are not reviewers. She did not get Chamkila At all. She did not understand the movie at all. This is disrespectful.

[@pinz_gen]

Yes, For real 😫

[@Plaseebo]

yes i watch the movie after seeing there hate ... i truely liked the movie

[@munmunnath5785]

If Jayashree could stop making the tsk tsk sound that after every word, it would be more pleasant for the listener. I thought it was pretty obvious in the move why Chamkila cut his hair - he was inspired by Amitabh and his guru Shinda. Also it was explained pretty well why he wrote those songs - as is true for most artists -they do what sells.

[@TheGirl111]

Hai bhogoban 🤯.. eita ki chilo? Why so pretentious?! Movie critics making comments like “could not make myself watch it!!!” … then please donot call yourselves “movie critics”.. and those continuous+dismissive eye rolls, smirks and lip smacking…exactly how self absorbed and entitled these two ladies are ?!!🤦🏻‍♀️

[@amodhsaxena6103]

Yeah, they’re don’t qualify as critics. There’s no discussion of craft, form, underlying theme etc. anything. I haven’t been this irritated in a while.

[@pinz_gen]

@@amodhsaxena6103 that part 🙌🏽

[@premprakash334]

Nailed it

[@Plaseebo]

i watch the movie after seeing there hate ... i truly liked the movie... now i m fan thanks

[@puneetkalsi8096]

Plz take Abhinandan's views on Chamkila, I think he'll give the honest review.

[@shreyashisharma]

1) his poverty is linked to his caste. The entire movie does a brilliant job in pointing that out. Yes it’s subtle and perhaps for more mature viewers but still brilliantly laced throughout the movie. 2) the ‘vulgarity’ is in fact an entire commentary on the politics of sexuality and how it subverts such a patriarchal casteist society. What does it mean for a Dalit to sing things that the upper caste listens to in all their spaces and yet threatens and rages against? What does it mean for the women to perform these songs in their safe women only spaces? What is our idea of vulgar and non-vulgar when we think folk cultures are vulgar but Shiela ki Jawani is not? How do we grade this vulgarity based on our own class and caste politics? And who decides what language is vulgar? Such caste and class normative issues were central to the movie. Wish you brought people who actually had a more nuanced approach to the movie.

[@jade61323]

Excellent analysis @shreyashisharma. Great job!

[@sunshinerainbow9311]

I do not blame you people about your thaughts on Chamkila. You do not know the rural culture of Punjab. Chamkila is still in the hearts of punjabi people. His records are still hit. Diljit and Pariniti did an excillent job and will always be remembered and praised for it❤. I watched this show first time only for the Chamkila review and was so disappointed. Anyways it was your personal opinion but punjabi people loved it.

[@mandeepkour3694]

Newslaundry please get some good critics.

[@Plaseebo]

exactly yeh log ko chro imdb rating mei shine kar rha hai movie yeh log haters hai

[@rotsyerlette1961]

These snobbish, self-important reviews do not matter. Not because they are critical but because they are more about the people giving them proving how clever they are, than understanding why certain things, even though not intellectual, touch people on a larger scale. It is not about a vulgar singer or caste politics, it is ultimately about freedom of expression. Will you support the freedom of expression of people you don't like? It's hypocritical when English speaking elite who scream on Twitter defending this right, do not get it. Diljit Dosanjh will remain in people's hearts for this performance.

[@Daemonsets]

This podcast is a single reason many are going to unsubscribe news laundry!

[@jkchahal20]

I actually pay your news channel and I did not expect that news laundry will allow such quality of amateur critical review. It’s more a note for news laundry rather than for these two ladies!!

[@vmustmeet]

Judging Chamikla by someone who doesn’t even know Hindi is not correct. I think Mr. Shekri should have done that. Diljit’s performance would have touched every Punjabi soul. It’s completely unfair what you said about him. I do understand you not from Punjab so you shouldn’t be judging that movie. The movie is all about the lyrics and culture of Punjab and you have zero knowledge of it. I’m so you have hurt us by saying that. It is fantastic movie the direction and acting is awesome. Things I wasn’t aware I got to know through this movie. Love you guys otherwise.

[@JagroopM]

I agree that language was lost for her. I would not, however, let that hurt us Punjabis. We have bigger things to worry about rather than let trivial things bother us.

[@AbhishekPandey-jt7co]

Let people express their feelings...

[@JagroopM]

@@AbhishekPandey-jt7co I’m not saying to not express, I’m asking to work on our feelings and sensitivities

[@Plaseebo]

i saw chamkila after watch they hate .. mujhe achi lagii film

[@amritladhar2265]

Their review of the English series also was horrible- they just gave away the story.

[@pinz_gen]

Of-course, this is the review from a bona fide snob sneering at Diljit's performance. Saw this hideous review from a mile away despite the fact that most view this movie as Imtiaz's comeback thanks to Diljit's portrayal of Chamkila. This show is so redundant, the reviews are always so underwhelming. Abhinandan's rare appearances is the only salvageable thing about it, tbh😅

[@amalsharath]

Sheer hubris and lack of respect for the audience by the laziness and lack of prep…

[@amritladhar2265]

Very poor review of all the shows and movies- you need not narrate a story to opine on it ladies. I have seen pushpawali to chamkila - i think you need to take some lessons. Speaking English is not enough. You don’t know anything abt chamkila. So don’t review anything that you not know abt! Phew!😡

[@Daemonsets]

Exactly!

[@Scramboy]

Not subscribing nothin' until them two ladies on Chamkila reckon with an apology!

[@varunchhabra497]

Chamkila is an awesome movie, especially if you understand Punjabi.. Most people would still like it if they understand Hindi. I’m not sure how good the English subtitles are for someone to judge the movie based on that. For example, she says that it was a very surface level movie because they didn’t explain why he sings such songs. But the movie begins with him as a child listening to and watching all this stuff around him. He said multiple times in the movie that he grew up with all this around him, people want to listen to this kind of music, and that’s why he sings it..

[@shailendra473]

Dude, just listen to them and enjoy, there words are not gospel, she thought Diljit as weak link of the film, so one could understand her knowledge of acting and movies.

[@Plaseebo]

i liked the movie even if i dont know punjabi its great movie even for hindi speakers (south i dont know whats the scene there they dont know hindi or refuse to learn hindi )but english dubb where also on point . the reviewers r just haters imdb and rotten tomatos rating of the movie speaks for itself

[@premprakash334]

And they come to review and criticise something they can't understand

[@jade61323]

Whoa!!!! "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - it only hastens fools to rush where angels fear to tread"!!! There I HAD to write the complete quote to highlight the relevance! When you have ZERO idea about cultural nuances, when even the translation you got was from some other planet THIS is what you get for Chamkila review. You missed critical things about the reason for this person (Chamkila) singing what he did...something he talks about all the time in the movie, that it began from his childhood etc! So much blah in the name of a review with scant understanding of the movie! You might not have liked the movie, your opinion. That's ok! But my, oh my, how pretentious it all sounded!

[@pinz_gen]

pretentious is the word, defo 👍👍

[@jade61323]

@@pinz_gen I know, right! Rajshree turns up her nose saying she won't watch the movie and the other anchor (Jayshree?) is SOOO clueless about the movie! Yet here is their review?! Joke! They both sound so condescending!

[@pinz_gen]

@@jade61323 ughh… for real !! I honestly couldn’t sit through the entire episode… almost all of their reviews lack discussion on the director’s vision, the technical aspects, any fun trivia… it’s just a whole lot of yapping. Annoying as !

[@RightToDissent]

Again you guys give a review while living in a glass bubble. This is a biopic, because if there is no reason given in the life of chamkila about why he cut his hair then Imtiaz Ali cannot magically supply it in the movie. That will be dishonest. Both you ladies, either do your homework properly and dive deeply or stop giving kitty party reviews. And btw I could not finish watching your review, it was so cringe.

[@JustFhilosophy]

Someone please tell these guys we have got awesome legit movie critics in the industry thankfully and they are doing a fantastic job of reviewing films with Chamkila getting rave reviews. Thank you Rajashree and whoever the other madam ji is for the wonderful interpretation!

[@pratyushmund8932]

Chamkila is a Bollywood film and Diljit Was not using a wig those were his real hair

[@amanjosan2674]

Awful review.

[@shachitolani3458]

Don’t agree with the chamkila reviews at all.. it seems u r trying too hard to dislike it

[@Plaseebo]

exactly ... choro yeh saste reviewers ko imdb or rotten tomato mei moviee is shining

[@Firozshaikh1973]

Please for god's sake please stop this podcast it's just awful not awesome I really admire NL for your news and other articles but please not this one😢😢

[@yashgupta8136]

To these both "great" reviewers - get a life

[@piyushchhajed7725]

why do you discuss movies that you did not even understand? Please stop judging things if you are not informed. #amarsingh chamkila.

[@gauravsharma-ju8ro]

Extremely boring episode.....sounds like two "unimportant human beings on this planet" talking trash in the line of " yeah...you know ....yeah...I love it....I hate it". Get a life you both

[@KeshavDaBhutra]

The fake accent unbelievably annoying

[@Daemonsets]

Thumbnail me hi diljit ki photo, chamkila movie ki photo, uske wig per comment. Bas controversy chahtey h diljit k naam pr views k liye. I thought newslsundry was not like those godi channels who just want controversy for trp. Same hi kia tum log ne is video me views k liye. Major respect dropped!

[@ragamsureshkumar2278]

News laundry, please, for heavens sake, replace these ladies . This episode was the worst. Such a boring episode.

[@jkchahal20]

I think you better understand the culture and read the biopic before critically acclaiming it. Diljit was superb and Pareeniti singing live at that pitch was incredible!! Please don’t misguide the listeners.

[@jkchahal20]

@@DJVOOZy8x the truth truth not the one based on one’s misconstrued perceptions

[@techcdrive1702]

00:00 The Movie is 5-10-20 stars. PERIOD. no need to watch this video.

[@teal-phoenix]

Chamkila is bollywood, not punjabi as it has all big names.. u shud call it punjabi had it punjabi actors with regional reach, diljit is no longer regional, or maybe even bollywood, he is international

[@JagroopM]

I would suggest 1984 Punjab, if you want to see Diljit’s performance at his best. And that’s why people at that time could look emotionless at times. As far as bland look is concerned, if you look at their actual performances, Amarjot looks very disinterested, just like Parineeti did. I disagree with your discussion of Amar Singh Chamkila movie. I would never defend his songs. But they connected the dots that he was Listening in traditional folk songs and seeing these things as a child. But I think most of it got lost for her in translation.

[@techcdrive1702]

Newslaundry you can do best, Hire some real ART Fanatics. Newslaundry you needs an major update on this section.

[@smreeteeshu]

I agree with your review on Chamkila to some extent but not all. I felt like the movie makers have played safe and only taking the things that could support the character. As a biography I wanted to be inspired or at least moved emotionally but the movie didn't do that to me. It was a good movie technically but it isn't something to become a cult. One suggestion to the girl on the left is that she should tone done her lips smacking ppchh ppchh sound in between her conversations... it's annoying and audience wouldn't like that.

[@shailendra473]

Rajshree and Jayshree looks like lost twin sisters

[@AbhishekPandey-jt7co]

Where one's love for fat never stops 😅

[@asifzzaman1632]

I think it really isnt a stretch when people refer to Chamkila as the 'Elvis of Punjab' because they both ruffled feathers with the conservatives for their 'vulgarity' which inevitably made them more popular. Also, the 'vulgarity' in question has been addressed in the movie pretty well I think. Im not justifying it but we cant deny that there has always been a audience for it and we aren't anyone to judge them. Moreover it was nothing that Chamkila invented cus it has always existed and has been the reason of popularity for many mainstream International popstars both before and after him. I would agree that the performances are just ok at best except when Diljeet is singing and the movie does feel surface level at many places but that I guess is a compromise which the makers had to make cus of the medium, perhaps a mini series would have opened up more possibilities. Overall, the movie is a good watch and will definitely encourage the audience to enquire more about the life of Chamkila.

[@LakshmiSrikhandpur]

I agree Diljit was kinda bland - the story was what got him through.

[@PunjabTech_24]

Chamkila starts at 20:20

[@baksheeshlamba8552]

Man i love you

[@jkchahal20]

I really wish that you understand the culture and read the biopic before critically acclaiming it. Please don’t mislead the audience as News laundry is not known for it.

[@jagmeetdhaliwal]

This looks like a comedy show.

[@ashutoshb7612]

Anyone can say anything on SM. Their show is one of the reasons I unsubscribed NL and add to that AV expressions in their video podcast. It mostly seems like AV is kidnaped and being held in the podcast by force.

[@Daemonsets]

Beta tumse naa ho payega! Hume tumhare lachan thik nahi lagrahey, tumse na ho payega!

[@MIS32264]

Yeh dono hathni magach ki Mother sister kar Rahi hai... Peleej Kaantent Improv karye. - Munna bhaiya

[@lifeisajourneywearetravelers]

😀😀

[@kaurkaur7621]

Yeh kya hai? Both baby elephants...

[@TejasNarvekar-k6o]

British Comedy has always been way better than US Sitcom, any day of the week! Here’s a good list.. The Two Ronnies, Allo Allo, Blackadder, Faulty Towers, Monty Python, Yes Minister, Only Fools and Horses, Fry & Laurie, Jeeves & Wooster, Mitchell & Webb, Benny Hill, Catherine Tate Show, Coupling, Peep Show, Mr Bean, The OG Office, OG Whose Line, Upstart Crow, The Kumar’s at 42, Citizen Khan, Goodness Gracious Me, IT Crowd, Vikar of Dibley, Derry Girls, Fleabag, even Would I lie to you, QI, Come dine with me and Top Gear! There’s your definitive Brit Comedy watchlist, you’re welcome 😎

[@TejasNarvekar-k6o]

@@BhuroKiAmma yes they absolutely are. The UK produces better actors, writers, directors and far smarter comedy me thinks, which shows in these “shows”! Add Too doors down to the list, here’s why kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3ylhGt-m7WVi6Msi=Js13ZAvUBgV1JhX_

[@TejasNarvekar-k6o]

Missed adding Two doors down, the Scottish accent just has natural potential for comedy 😆 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3ylhGt-m7WVi6Msi=44q7w8_6Vx05ESAW

[@cb9461]

Bullshit biased review of Chamkila fromyour own narrow cultural perspective . You have no right to judge movies from other cultures. Stick to your tack Rajnikants and bhadralok bullcrap.

[@smrutibaviskar]

It would be really nice of you if you said Mumbai instead of bombay..... Just a kind request😇😇

[@jessyjosephkj9699]

The most pathetic reviews…..

[@lovealways729]

Diljit just has the same star struck expression in all his films... jesus

[@saurabhvashist4051]

The entire outrage brigade in the comments are standing up for a mediocre performance and saying that the viewers can't gauge a performance because something was lost in translation or the viewer failed to comprehend the performance because of lack of language skills. Movie watchers also watch Japanese, Korean, French, Malayalam, Telegu, Iranian and German films with subtitles and are able to appreciate good cinema and performances. Imtiaz Ali, quite simply, is an overrated writer and director. Apart from his initial work, most of his follow up writing and films have been mediocre and passable fare. He has a hit and miss record. And an actor is only as good as the screenplay and the director extracting said performance. Diljit is a skillful actor as illustrated in 1984 Punjab but can't be Daniel Day Lewis when the writing itself is formulaic Bollywood biopic writing catering to Netflix's requirement of dumbing down writing for greater accessibility. All critique should be taken in. If the film has failed to be accessible to viewers unfamiliar with Punjab, its history or with Chamkila, then that is a failing of the film to transcend these barriers.

[@Daemonsets]

Beta tumse naa ho payega! Hume tumhare lachan thik nahi lagrahey, tumse na ho payega!😂

[@TheGirl111]

Well not really! Most of the “outrage brigade” is annoyed by the “critics” snobbish commentary.. the whole assumption that people watching that particular movie are beneath the critics’ level is a bit too much show of privilege and fake intellectual classism.. I agree to the point that Imtiaz Ali might not just be the best in the lot.. and this film might not be best of the lot either.. but here the problem was the way the presenters, presented the whole material.. it was disrespectful.. and “junta” might not be fancy, supremely “sophisticated” or most proficient in “english”, BUT they are not stupid! Not everyone in the comment section is a “troll” but definitely most of them are annoyed ✌️

[@Daemonsets]

@@TheGirl111 Exactly!