Amateur tuning my 100 year old Steinway before and after

[@ItsmeAz]

Sounds great, personally I like the sound of detuned pianos too. I know that's a bit weird, but in this increasingly digital, squeaky clean world, there's something genuine and natural about the sound of a detuned piano.

[@arisohnebares]

i totally agree! there's just this melancholic vibe to it, which fits greatly since it hasn't been tuned for a long time ^^

[@MattiasKrantzshorts]

You’re going to love the old self playing piano I just bought. Making a video of it for my main channel, you can barely hear what song it is on entertainer

[@CloudEscolar]

@@MattiasKrantzshorts I want one so bad but they’re so heavy

[@ethandeister6567]

Have you heard of just intonation? Back before we had 12 tone equal temperament (the distance between A-A# is the same as A#-G) we had tuning systems where we tried to maximize the number of mathematically perfect fifths (2:3) while preserving the ratio of 1:2 for an octave. You can look up this video where a piano tuner demonstrates multiple of these tuning systems with different Bach pieces which were likely written with tuning in mind.

[@romeolz]

You are the exact type of person to love microtonality

[@luke27luis]

"I'm just going to keep this as a piano. And play it as a piano. With piano strings". I don't understand. 🤣

[@pattyAom]

lol

[@robbins2973]

If you are familiar with his videos you know that the pianos don't stay pianos for long 🤣

[@luke27luis]

@@robbins2973 That's exactly why I said that. It feels weird he is going to keep one original 🤣

[@hazardsoftech]

This is the only channel where a disclaimer like this is needed. lol

[@mc-ec3bu]

He is a prat and no business going near a piano.

[@UmmerDr]

And this is exactly how your piano expertise grows. Learn by doing, and having a clear goal. So nice to see you learn the craft of piano tuning! ( Love all your other weird stuff too!! )

[@residentspirit6023]

Grotrian-Steinweg sells its pianos under the name “Grotrian” in certain countries now, due to litigation from Steinway. No, they are not the same brand. In the 1800s, Grotrian was an associate with Steinweg, who emigrated to the US from Germany to found Steinway and Sons. Grotrian inherited the Steinweg factory and brand, so the two companies have the same roots, but are not the same company. They do make very beautiful pianos of a high quality however, on par with the highest tier piano brands, with a very colourful sound. Congratulations on a great instrument!

[@Erainia]

As a piano tech, a great first go at tuning! of course Piano meter helps a lot, its truly a great piano tuning app especially for beginners. Wonderful find of a Grotrian Steinweg too, absolutely wonderful world class pianos, I wouldnt be ashamed to call it Steinweg over Steinway either in your case

[@ThePianoMan1953]

Great that you were supportive. I don't consider myself any kind of tuning-snob, but I must be very sensitive when it comes to tuning. He proved that an amateur can get close but "no cigar." Of course, we all know a "piano in tune" is a lie. I'm convinced, it takes a very accomplished pro-tuner to be able to "mask" that lie to make the piano sound "in tune." Personally, i play a Yamaha digital piano. I am 100% sold on the digital and my sister is 100% acoustic. (she would rather play on an out of tune acoustic rather than a "perfectly in-tune" digital. This I can't understand?? My keyboard sounds like a $180,000 concert grand piano (in any concert hall I choose in my software) Much like one note played by Miles Davis on trumpet, I can play one note on my keyboard that can send shivers up your spine.

[@Erainia]

@@ThePianoMan1953 Im in between as i use both digital and acoustic, when i can id always choose to go down to my work and play on our C7 Yamaha, but at home i only have the space for my Dexibell and Yamaha digitals. The main difference would be Key action, 99% of digitals don't come 100% to reproducing the feeling of an acoustic touch wise. Also speakers can be a let down on digitals too

[@ThePianoMan1953]

@@Erainia Right, I haven't found a digital (in my price range) that comes close to an acoustic action. I tend to play my Yamaha P-105 through the Garritan (Abbey Road Studio) software and through the Yamaha 7" monitors with sub. It's better than my playing deserves! 😀 I originally thought I liked the bright Yamaha sound but I find I like the darker presets. (especially when playing jazz ballads late at night) The biggest problem with any portable, weighted keyboard (that I can see) is that the entire plastic housing "acoustically" amplifies the "thud" when the keys hit bottom. Everything has a trade-off, but it is annoying!

[@zdogg8]

@@ThePianoMan1953 Oh Puleeze on the "my digital sounds like concert Grand." NO it does not. Digital can be decent, and as you suggest, more trouble free, but still, give us all a break. I own a highly rated digital piano and have high end libraries as well, so I don't have an ax to grind, but just puleeze.

[@ThePianoMan1953]

@@zdogg8 Wow, you're really arrogant with your opinion.

[@riddixdan5572]

can't wait for you to learn other songs. good luck in your learning

[@anthonysacco1547]

hello youngman, that was one helluva good find ! I'll be glad to share some of my experiences. Little bits at a time works real good, at 66 years, I;ve played by ear all my life, and retired chief engineer in demolition and scrap metal recovery using cold cutting technics to avoid "Hot cutting permits" inside oil leases. Since I began on very old pianos in this friends antique mall, and by looking at what you have, don't even worry about breaking strings ! Stupid things break even when your firstn turn is counter clockwise and "pop" ! My Man, tighten them strings up above 440 after your gentle cleaning, just do it ! Unless you're ready to take up to a month, it'll save you so much time !! Start in the middle,, then go to both ends and alternate down until you met center! I got sick and tired of being afraid of breaking a string, and thse were much older and dirty dusty machines! Always tune pass 440, and you'll finds that piano can take it, then gently lower the pitch into tune ! It's that simple, "you 'll find" that's the best way, and it's easier! Your piano wasn't engineered to be "de-tuned". Crank'er up, then settle it in! If it still falls out of tune, use "locktight"! Doesn't hurt nothing, if you have to move the key ever again, it'll break through the lock tight no problem! Beats changing the keyhole sleeve and key!

[@Zeveulesaussure]

That was way more interesting than the typical amateur videos that I watch !

[@nicjansen230]

Hearing the song you know on your own piano, but then tuned is such a strange feeling, especially irl. I compare it to walking into the sound room in a past internship. This big company has a room in which they test how loud their machines are. If you've never done anything like that, it's hard to imagine the releaf when walking in there. You feel how the air changes from like 10dB to below 0dB

[@Oli.V]

I got a simply piano ad right in the middle of a person playing the river flows in you right while he was playing the river flows in you

[@tombeauchamp806]

Gotta say having a piano dealer is way better than other dealers you could have lol

[@GuilhermeFrancesconCittolin]

2:12 "I wish this extension worked for body parts" 🤔🤔

[@pacman7709]

I’m a concert technician specializing in Steinway and Bösendorfer pianos. Fun video, but you still may wanna call a pro. :) What you did was called a pitch raise, the piano strings stretch and relax for a few days following that drastic of a tuning.

[@Timzart7]

I'm sure I tried the wrench method as a kid, before I bought a tuning hammer. In the 1960s, when I was about 14, I bought a hammer and used a library book, "How to Tune a Piano" and tuned our old upright. My parents didn't have much money and refused to get it tuned. As an adult, I went through two new upright pianos and tuned them both myself, but sometimes hired a tuner, if I wanted some notes voiced differently or whatever. I did a decent job without a tuner, long before cell phones, but when electronic tuners first became affordable and widely available, that made it easier. Still, tuning was tedious for me and very time consuming, like I'd do it over three days. Anyway, there is a technique I think most tuners use called "let-off" that helps seat the pin in the pin block, and that is with each note, lower the pitch just a little from the existing pitch, before bringing it up to the correct pitch. I believe the theory is the wood has formed around the pin at the existing flat pitch, so bringing it back in pitch, counter clock-wise, helps kind of shape the wood around the pin. I'm sure I could read up on that somewhere. The Internet is a game-changer for finding information about pianos. The other thing that technique made me feel better about was using let-off, not breaking a string. Often, with old pianos, they will have certain notes that go out of tune quickly, or too many notes that do that. But sometimes a new piano will do that. I know because I had one. My first brand new piano, a Baldwin, a real lemon, had a defect in that way. I should have returned it. It would go out of tune further in two weeks than my next piano would go in four years. The second piano was amazing at holding tune. But, ultimately, although not a pianist, even though I've played since I was five, I like a piano that is in perfect tune, and so later in life went with a Roland digital. But I like MIDI for composing also. I got spoiled in music school by first playing a lot of Steinway pianos, many which were not very good at all, including the occasional B or D, and then later in music school in Vienna, all Bösendorfer grands, a few which I liked. My playing doesn't warrant such a great piano though and I'm fine with the Roland, as being in tune is the #1 thing for me. The Grotrian seems like a terrific bargain. My brother bought a real hunk of junk upright 35 years ago for $1000.

[@pianotorious47]

Very nice work on the tuning! I think you have a really special piano on your hands there.

[@MaeBlythe]

The piano sounds so beautiful 😭

[@joellleoj]

Nice. Have you ever tried tuning the two or three strings for each key to different notes? Say tune them in octaves or fifths, like strings on a 12 string guitar? Or maybe take a 1-octave range of keys on a piano and tune the 3 strings to major triads? and another 1-octave range and tune them to minor triads? Instant harmony with 1-finger per hand playing!

[@arsteel2388]

Please do this for a video

[@Mattiaskrantz]

Yes I’ve bought pianos that was so out of tune were some notes turned into chords lol. Sounded quite nice. It would be cool if the notes were tuned to chords. But if you played actualy chords you would play some really crazy chords. Idk if that makes sense. But I’ve had this idea written down since the E-piano. But I’d like to do some vids inbetween

[@_benk]

I think octaves is a bit of a stretch for some strings but harmonies could probably work

[@GigsTaggart]

@@_benk a stretch, i see what you did there

[@tripjet999]

You can tune a piano, but can you tuna fish?

[@rosatipianoservices]

Excellent job! You're well on your way to becoming a technician.

[@studentjohn35]

Besides the lever, you need a temperament srip, a couple wedge mutes, and a Papp's Patent mute.

[@therealannakonda]

1:59 I‘m currently doing a technical internship because, well, I want to became an engineer and this is actually how mechanics work. It’s definitely not recommended and they don’t learn it like that in the apprenticeship but well…it’s often faster than finding the perfect tool 😅😂 But I still really hoped you wouldn’t do it haha

[@tombeauchamp806]

Sometimes shop made tools with random stuff laying around are the absolute best

[@DL-kc8fc]

100 years? Full armor, lower shock absorbers ... ))))

[@instrumentenfreak]

sounds good. I like tuning my own grand piano too. It is kinda relaxing to me and I have no pressure to finish it in time.

[@RoadRam]

haha I'm glad you put my comment in the video

[@lukepeterson19]

I would love it if you made a video showing your collection of all the pianos you have

[@marcm.official]

i actually love the untuned piano, it sounds so vintage and has cool atmosphere

[@blepdelle]

This sounds like the middle of the untuned fishing line piano and a regular tuned piano

[@hurdygurdyguy1]

Sounds like all of the saloon pianos in the Old West in the US 😂

[@bonzodimduly]

hello mattias, i have come to take you to jail for not ruining a piano, you should call your piano technician and he will be confused how it sounds normal

[@mjmcomputers]

Nice job on the tuning, sounds great now.

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

good tuning, mattias. good luck with learning the piano.

[@tangyorange6509]

As a piano tech I love your videos Edit: and you can use your phone! The app just really makes or breaks the results

[@edkovac8978]

I like the sound of this piano. Even though it's an upright piano, it sounds really good. Good call to keep it as it is;)

[@marcm.official]

ofc its a steinway upright, it will really sound good af

[@-Kal-]

Some uprights can sound amazing imo. Especially full size uprights. I got one for free and tuned it myself with entropy-piano-tuner and it's my favorite sounding non full grand piano I've played.

[@kristophjj17]

I was about to hire a piano tuner for this used piano I just picked up but now you have me wanting to tune it myself lol

[@Un1234l]

I dunno mate, piano strings are very strong, and that translates into snapping with violent force. Maybe study real hard about what NOT to do first.

[@jjmorris100]

Great job tuning out. I have that shirt! 😀

[@MeriaDuck]

A few years ago at work (office), we got a freebie piano. After the tuner was done, he could start right over from the beginning; the turny bits wouldn't hold / were very fond of their original position.

[@MrPhonoman]

Free pianos are often useless.

[@hipwardx]

Woah, i didn’t know you have this secret piano. Also i never thought you’ll keep your piano be normal and still be piano. Because of this quote “I’m an engineer” lol

[@ZappninLLP]

You had me going there with the crescent wrench!

[@alexybaddie]

Honestly, I’d like to see this Steinweg piano as a Kontakt Piano Library, it has such a nice and crisp sound and I would want to use it. But try to get every key to not be off and hire a professional to tune before it gets sampled.

[@nubrigol]

Mattias: I'm going to play a test song... Me: Oh he learned a new song! Mattias: *Plays River Flows In You* Me: nope

[@MusicHavenSG]

Tbh, sure it may sound laborious to self-tune your piano. But it is teaching you how to really take care of it like a baby especially if you take great pride in the instrument. I may intend to get the tuning wrench so I can tune mine.

[@dutelatte2154]

Not tuned sounded interesting!! The result is not too bad, fine tuned is playable! Good job, took you a few hours but I think it's worth it for many hours of playing ;)

[@parsafarjammusic28]

I once saw a 1930s Bechstein Concert 8 at a showroom for sale for $4000. I refrained from buying it because 1. I didn’t have $4000 and also bc there were problems with the action (sticky keys, broken and faded key surfaces, etc), but the sound was just fabulous, and the actual true ivory keytops were definitely something special to play on. I’d say anyone that can get an old but extremely good piano like Mat’s Grotrian Steinweg or that Bechstein I mentioned and service it (either themselves or by someone else) absolutely should…

[@kezzmexx2476]

Du stämmer riktigt bra mannen :) piano dealer OP

[@kyrvhy]

You have an Amazing piano. Grotrian Steinweg is a wonderful maker. Enjoy it and it will make you a better pianist.

[@BaddeGrasse]

boy howdy I can't wait for you to hit your sub goal 🧡

[@PabloBD]

striking difference, good job!

[@chronos624]

You are very lucky to have a Grotrian Steinweg. Be sure to tune a tiny bit sharp and then back down so it holds the tune.

[@padaplays7717]

You should get a rinky tink installed next gives the piano a saloon sound :)

[@FGrootes]

I'm on a similar path with accordions. Good luck!

[@bigbadbillb]

A Steinway for a $1000? That's a steal!

[@juanduarte6656]

I found a very neglected upright gulbransen on a bulk trash and I saw it for about a week absolutely nobody picked it up so luckily I have a storage unit I made up my mind picked it up and brought to my storage unit now I tried to find a service piano but so far they won’t answer the phone now idk what to do idk how to play piano but I know how to play guitar please help in some recommendations I live in phoenix Arizona

[@mctronics7878]

I have two questions : does IKEA really make Pianos ? And do they come disassembled ?🤣

[@tankuser4276]

I'm planning to tune my aunt's piano by myself because no one cares about that piano, it'd be expensive to find a professional tuner in the Philippines. Also I wanna learn how to play a piano so I'll tune her piano to practice playing. (Yes I do not know how to play a piano yet and im'ma attempt to tune one🤣) wish me luck boys🤣🤣

[@Dvay1]

You could do the system in which each string will be connected to servo or motor with gearbox and make it self-tuning similar to Gipson guitar :D. In that case it could even have some preset profiles with best sounding detuned piano :D

[@dolphins6010]

When you compared the two strings its similar to tuning a guitar by using the natural harmonics in the way the sound waves match to go to clean sound

[@asif-mf8yl]

Awesome! Sir

[@RunnymedePianos-ee1kb]

Grotrian Steinweg were started by Heinrich Steinweg who later became Henry Steinway. These pianos are high end and valuable instruments. Tuning bass first can wreck your bridge and board etc. How to tune your piano? Go to college and learn to tune by ear, or get a trained tuner to teach you. Better still pay someone who knows what they are doing. That pianos been restored.

[@pacman7709]

Tell us you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling us- “tuning bass first can wreck your bridge and board etc.” WRONG!

[@xoco.ozomatli]

Do more armature videos. They don't even have to be for this website ;) I kinda wanted to say that spending more on the tuning tools was an investment, but considering the things you do to pianos, I'm not so sure it is...

[@JAISSTEUER]

I can definitely tell it’s out of tune when it’s out of tune but you did a good job!

[@ChannelScottify]

I lol'd. Thank you. The wrench/screwdriver and then the tuning with Xbox comments were good.

[@davidmckinney6577]

Good morning buddy 😘 my number one good buddy the engineer I never had a engineer for a friend BTW Arnold 🐕 is watching with me and said hello 😅

The a e s t h e t i c tho

[@StuffandThings_]

You've spent so much time building unique instruments... How about trying your hand at composing to build your own songs? You have an array of very unique pianos to play around with and with your work ethic I'm sure you could pull off a new skill like that. You're clearly incredibly enthusiastic for music, after all.

[@tombeauchamp806]

I really hope you keep using a river runs through it for everything. Like play your million subscriber song that you promised but still use this as a baseline for your stuff

[@afloridian9758]

I hope that you playing a little bit of Merry go round of life is a hint to what youll play for a million subscribers!

[@thijs199]

I hope you did it right so even tho the pitch will go down the instrument will remain harmonious

[@webfischi]

And next time Mattias is building his own piano 😁

[@pascalcoole2725]

Mattias, don't think Grotian plays fairly heavy ? It surely sounds nice (after tuning)

[@guillermohinojosa262]

Hey Mattias excellent piano tunning, just a question. What kind of cellphone tunning did you use on it?

[@guillermohinojosa262]

I meat Cellphone tunning program.Regards Dude

[@sushiwithfish2837]

Step 1: Amateur piano tuning Step 2: Satisfying old piano tuning … Step 89: Satisfying Piano Cleaning Relaxing Video … Step 93: Satisfying Old Piano Painting Relaxing 1 hour complication

[@monikapieta9191]

Hahaha, that was fun to watch!

[@javiercmh]

I loved your attempt to (was it?) howl's moving Castle!! And I'd like to have the courage to tune my own piano, it sounds great

[@loodusefilm7881]

You may try to tune your piano into cords not to separate notes... at part where piano have 3 strings on one note..

[@bettinaceciliasilveira5773]

2:12 Did I hear ok? "I wish this extension works for body parts?"

[@lazar3803]

I've been wondering what the song at 6:01 is, anyways, you tuned it very well!

[@hej-x8g]

Bella ciao is the name i believe EDIT: I was wrong!

[@lazar3803]

@@hej-x8g wait, that can't be it, can it?

[@savvydruid5430]

thats Llevan polka

[@hej-x8g]

@@savvydruid5430 ah shit my bad

[@hej-x8g]

@@lazar3803 its not i was wrong it just popped up in my head sorry

[@sebastianleith6809]

Whats the link for the tuner

[@HoloUniversee]

I want someone to play Rush E on the EEEEE piano

[@imark7777777]

but How would I know if I like tuning a piano unless I have a piano to tuneeeeeeee?

[@hurdygurdyguy1]

7:17 ... and that's how the ending piano chord in the Beatle's A Day In The Life should've been done... way easier! 😂

[@bacon.cheesecake]

0:50 He didn't say anything about using regular piano hammers!!! Clas ohlson hammer steinway lesssgooooo!!!!!!!

[@stricttranslator7871]

You have so much piano can you give me one of your piano i really like to play piano because of your videos

[@nightspicer]

I might actually prefer the untuned here, probably cause it reminds of my grandparents piano

[@legomachines5970]

5:54 D2 is a bit off

[@Mnnvint]

You should get a cembalo, then you get to tune it all the time

[@mvdvlist]

How is your progress in having piano lessons, so you can actually play the instruments you created? ;)

[@frankdonovan7212]

Good video. You must’ve got a bargain on that Steinway, well at least to the regular price. I own a Casio keyboard myself. My guess is even perfect pitch musicians would have difficulty with the mechanic part of the process. I can tune a guitar but I definitely can’t tune a piano.

[@Oli.V]

It’s technically not a Steinway, at least probably not the Steinway you’re thinking of. While Grotrian and Steinweg were associated and started this company together, Steinway and sons is the company he formed after immigrating to America, and this is a Grotrian-Steinweg piano. It’s still a very high quality piano thought and definitely more rare than a Steinway and Sons, at least in my experience.

[@jimscanoe]

Buy a piano tuning wrench, a couple (or three) strips of dampening felt, and some rubber dampers (around $50 total); and watch a KZbin video on how to tune a piano before you damage your Steinway and end up having to spend a couple of thousand dollars to repin your piano.

[@martifingers]

7.15... this is of course the ending of The Beatles " Day In The Life".

[@MegaMech]

You shouldn't tune historic pianos yourself without some experience on a modern one. They often are not tuned to A440. Raising the pitch to A440 could result in snapping the whole thing in half. Some pianos can handle A440 some cannot. Even just going too fast can be dangerous. A440 was not a standard until 1915ish. So if you have a piano from 1890 it's probably not in modern pitch.

[@masoon3000]

Really? Any source for that claim? Tuning to 432 or 435 Hz which seems to be the most popular tunings would lower the notes 1/5 of a half tone. So no, seems highly unlikely to snap a piano in half.

[@MegaMech]

@@masoon3000 Perhaps I could have worded that differently. You have to remember the context of a historic piano. It's old and perhaps not in the best of shape. May even have sustained physical damage over the years. I am not suggesting that every [upright] piano having a pitch raise will snap in half. Moreso, it's a real danger and has happened to piano technicians. That 1/5 of a half tone across all the strings is a lot of extra tension. Some pianos are not made to handle that and can be damaged in the process. This is why you should have a qualified technician or do your research prior to tuning a historic piano to A=440. Not all pianos are built the same either.

[@swansong1851]

A440 was actually only set as International Low Pitch in 1943. This Grotrian-Steinweg was built to be tuned to Continental Pitch which was A439. Raising it that little bit above spec is quite safe.

[@MegaMech]

@@swansong1851 1926 to 1936 would be more accurate. The term low pitch isn't used how you used it unless that's just auto correct lol. Pianos that haven't been tuned for 30 years are always way below pitch. "It's only one hertz" isn't true for a lot of cases. But I agree less problematic for this piano.

[@kylezo]

bro you're not gonna snap a piano in half from tuning it a quarter tone sharp LMAO

[@Telgteraner]

Do you know that a hundred years ago your piano was NOT built for the concert pitch of 440Hz? At the time, 435 Hz was the norm, and the strings and steel frame are designed for that pitch. The piano would sound better if you used the intended pitch and NOT the modern pitch of 440Hz... My Piano is from 1920 and sounds beautiful in that 435Hz pitch.

[@jd_baird_guitar]

A normal piano. Well done

[@ReinerDamisch]

Even if it's quite in tune, it's not a Steinway but still a Steinweg

[@hellopsp180]

untuned piano vibes sounded really good to me imho

[@themike97_58]

5:17 oh hello stereo audio. lmao

[@ninecatsmagee8384]

A piano of that calibre should be tuned properly. "Keep this as a piano and play like a piano"? What does this mean?

[@jr_kulik]

This is not a Steinway, it is a Grotrian-Steinweg. Although they’re good pianos, they’re not as good as Steinways. I know because I own one of each.

[@quadricode]

Individual pianos from a piano don't, at all, determine the quality of the brand as a whole, especially when considering historical instruments.

[@jr_kulik]

That is correct. I, however, have also played on at least a dozen of Steinways, with years of construction ranging from 1896 to 2020 and all sizes of the range. I have played less Grotrian-Steinwegs, but still at least 5 different ones, from 1940 to 2020, straight ones as well as grand pianos. Moreover, I have spent a great deal of time with various excellent piano makers and restorers, that have transmitted their detailed technical and historic knowledge about the construction of these pianos. I also have played on uncountable other pianos, with prices ranging from 3000 to 250’000 dollars, which gives me a global understanding of the technical and stylistic capabilities of most pianos in the world, of all types, sizes and origins. Finally, I have also studied old instruments and their music for nearly a decade, having played on dozens of historic keyboard instruments (oldest one from 1435), giving me a historic understanding of the piano’s evolution, technique and challenges. All of this to say that I can safely trust myself saying that, globally, Steinway makes and has made better instruments than Grotrian-Steinweg. It is however clear that Steinway pianos, although very competent, are not the best in the world, with often illogical construction decisions that require special tools and additional steps to repair and restore. This is to propagate their fallacious marketing that their pianos are by far the best and only to be touched by selected sponsored experts.

[@zdogg8]

@@jr_kulik Some individual Steinway pianos may come up short, but Steinway IS the sound of the concert hall, and for good reason. They sound terrific, just like the Stradivarius sounds terrific. Steinway invented the modern piano, has by far the most patents of significance and really KNOW about the SOUND. It is an old approach, but only because it works and works well, and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Thanks for your insights, and this KZbinr should be ashamed of his "clik bait" false title, thanks for calling out the truth about Got. Stwg vs. Stwy. I have ninety six year old Stwy and it sounds marveloous, like all the recordings we love.

[@quadricode]

A surprising number of Steinways come up short due to their lackluster and inconsistent manufacturing process. Of the thousands and thousands of Steinway pianos produced each year, only a few qualify for being suitable for serious concert stages. Steinway is no doubt riding in their name to avoid any further innovation. Fazioli, Yamaha, Shigeru Kawai, and Bechstein produce pianos that compete with or exceed Steinway on a regular basis. But Steinway has the name, and has locked in thousands of artists contractually to use only their products. I say this as somebody who has tried really hard to find a good Steinway D worth purchasing, and never was able to. But I easily found Fazioli, SK-EX, and Bechstein D's that were superlative-despite being *much* rarer in the USA! I ended up going with Bechstein.

[@quadricode]

@@jr_kulik Completely agree! Thanks for the more nuanced follow-up.

[@astoruforealityen2723]

what's that song called, the one you always play. I used to know the name but I forgor now

[@dominomi9016]

River Flows In You by Yiruma

[@astoruforealityen2723]

@@dominomi9016 thanks

[@dnuma5852]

at first the tuned version sounds incredibly out of tune simply because the out of tune one was like a half step off

[@phineasbluster2872]

Either a person knows that he is confronted by the sophisticated Marvel of acoustic engineering that embodies modern pianos and admits he would like to start on a path to learning it.... ORRrr... he is just f##ing around out of ignorance or silliness. This cute youth seems to be the latter! (Nothing personal, boy! )

[@a.a.o.t-1213]

For a home made piano tuner, I suggest just getting a socket and an L wrench. Works like a treat if you get the proper socket.

[@zdogg8]

Why, when the real tools are cheap and accessible. Maybe in a pinch, ok, but otherwise, get the right tool.

[@MrPhonoman]

A socket is not shaped to properly fit the tuning pins as the pins are tapered. Using a socket will likely damage the pins and may cause them to be untunable.

[@JeffinIC]

She sounds so good!! (Now, find some new songs to play! LOL!!)