Amatsu VS Apex Zinogre Turf War - MH Rise Sunbreak

[@poiya8404]

My respect for Utsushi massively increased after this deed. Didnt expect him to actually lure a zinogre to fight Amatsu

[@whitewingedfox9879]

And an Apex one at that! Wasn’t expecting that but it certainly does fit. I was like “wait?! Are we- Are we going to wyvern ride an Apex?!”

[@Andyjoe522]

@@whitewingedfox9879 and they even justify it by having Utsushi jump on its back with you to wyvern ride it

[@whitewingedfox9879]

I didn’t even notice that firs time, had to watch a different video after your comment to see it. Thanks for pointing that out! Such a cool detail (and probably why we can actually wyvern ride an Apex), since we had his help.

[@JanusHoW]

The reason we're able to ride this Apex with Utsushi seems to be as follows - as the turf war ends, the Wirebugs that denote a Wyvern Ride start to descend on the Apex Zinogre. It starts to shake them off like all other Apexes do, but Amatsu smacks Apex Zin again before it can completely do so. And I think in a normal Wyvern Ride, three Wirebugs fly around a monster - here, I counted six, hence the need for two riders to control it at once.

[@stygiandragon3865]

Well, no doubt that the Apex Zinogre arrive there FOR Amatsu.

[@radiogobrrrrrrr1949]

I like to think that this particular Zinogre not only endured Ibushi’s storms, but was also one of the first Zinogres driven away from its habitat by Amatsu

[@_Tzer]

imagine if it's the same one that stared down amatsu in p3rd's intro

[@whysoserious4882]

Jeez guys You are all the old vteran hunters 😁

[@JanusHoW]

I actually think Amatsu has the power to _start_ a Rampage-like event and perhaps even control monsters through supernatural means. In Sunbreak Stories Vol. 4 (posted on the official Monster Hunter Twitter account) we can read the letter Kagero wrote to Yomogi but never gave her. In it, there's one line that points to this possibility: "And the monsters around it, as if _whipped into a frenzy by the serpent_ , attacked as well." (italics for emphasis) I think this Apex Zinogre may have been controlled by Amatsu after enduring its own storms, but the Stinkmink that Utsushi used to lure it to the Infernal Springs (note the white smoke coming from his body) somehow broke the control, and when the Zinogre recognized the foe that stripped it of all autonomy, it attacked out of rage and spite. For Amatsu, the conflict was to inflict punishment on an unruly minion.

[@ethanshembvibar7020]

Looks like he has had enough of Amatsu's Shit.

[@B1g_J_D1ver]

Apex zinogre: im back for round 2 b*ch Amatsu: so we meet again

[@chadderbug7587]

I adore how they used the enviornment to this fight. He gets thrown to the wall then immediately pounces back after Amatsu shoots a water beam.

[@stygiandragon3865]

Actually, Zinogre jumped to the wall and ran on the wall to avoid the water beam.

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

​@@stygiandragon3865 No,if you slow the video,you clearly see amatsu grabing and throwing zinogre

[@stygiandragon3865]

@@Amatsu_storm_approach Even then, the fact Zinogre can immediately find its balance and land on its feet shows that Zinogre has great natural reflex.

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

@@stygiandragon3865 True,still,even if apex zinogre is in the same tier as crimson glow valstrax,the power difference is just too much,amatsu is in a different league.

[@stygiandragon3865]

@@Amatsu_storm_approach You can still admire the courage that Apex Zinogre has for still going after Amatsu.

[@beaneatingoni1353]

0:43 Have you guys notice Apex Zinogre actually enters the Mountable State when it gets up from the turf war. But it removed the state immediately just like other Apex monster. And then Amatsu slaps it again makes it truly enters the Mountable State. I love this details.

[@_Tzer]

fun fact: Get utsushi as a follower and you can have this happen again during the fight.

[@Vipera217]

It was a brilliant move that Zinogre's theme played all throughout and not overridden by the ride theme.

[@ES-dp6tw]

Zinogre pulling from Magnamalos guide to fighting flyers. An excellent fight, though a shame Amatsu hasn’t tangled with a Serpent.

[@lilshax7297]

Bruh

[@HunDev_PL]

U seriously expected utsushi to bring out a whole-ass allmother into this fight? LMAO Would be cool tho...

[@elgobaldez3487]

Apex zinogre vs akonosom turf war when?

[@kingshyham75]

@@elgobaldez3487apex zinogre would lose

[@gioanysgonzalez3396]

Amatsu: What is a mere monster to a god? Apex Zinogre: WHAT IS A GOD TO A NON BELIEVER!?!

[@unknownbenefactor8029]

Zeno : meet monke. Rajang join the chat.

[@david_8916]

Amatsu: Do you believe now?

[@justinli5117]

@@david_8916 Apex Zinogre: Uh Huh, so cool…

[@markisshano7334]

@@justinli5117 Hunter: Zinogre, get on your feet! You lost everything to this beast! Now is your time to get back at him and teach him who the real boss is! Here, let us give you a hand! Utsushi and Hunter starts Wyvern Riding Apex Zinogre.

[@ferro1398]

What is this quote a reference from?

[@kingkamina4953]

This whole section of the fight is just Portable 3rd fan service

[@Andyjoe522]

This entire fight is full of pre-World fanservice, what with how they play the old item-pick up tune whenever you grab an endemic life during this quest. Apparently if you start grilling a steak they'll even play the older grilling theme.

[@kingkamina4953]

@@Andyjoe522 a lot of the references are 3rd gen specific which is why I said p3rd and not just old school mh but ur right

[@NidoKnight]

I’m glad they did a call back to that one badass Zinogre from P3rd that was ready to throw down with Amatsu, so much so it ignored that cart he had knocked over and the people in it.

[@乱-n4c]

Monster Hunter P3rd, Zinogre, Amatsu, and the SWAG AXE are ultimately cemented my love for this series. When this turf war went down I literally dropped my controller, jumped up, and cheered like a madman! Gods bless you Capcom!

[@kingkamina4953]

Couldn’t agree more….other than the fact I’m horrible at Swaxe 😅

[@AndrewRyann]

Wtf

[@zinogretw]

This shit was badass af i was so hyped when this happened! and how it changed to Zinogre's theme was epic

[@Arpin_Lusene]

I still remember how in Mh3rd portable there is cinematic where Zinogre having a stare off against amaterasu. Finally we have their actual fight.

[@stygiandragon3865]

From this turf war. We can see that Zinogre(Apex, at least) has really good reflex and power, even against Elder. And there's no way that it's a coincidence that the Zinogre is there in the first place. Since even after arriving, not only did it not back off, but instantly prepared itself, as if this is was the Zinogre's intention

[@Nematoda4ever]

well, Zinogre and Amatsu has some history, on MHP3RD, Amatsu are the reason why Zinogre lose its home and attacking Yukumo village. as we can say, Amatsu are Zinogre's archenemy.

[@stygiandragon3865]

@@Nematoda4ever I know. This Zinogre might even be the one howling at Amatsu in P3rd depending the time. And it's not like the Amatsu in P3rd is the only Amatsu in the world

[@Nematoda4ever]

@@stygiandragon3865 on Lore, its probably the one that drive Zinogre out from its home, just like Fatalis on World are the one who destroyed the kingdom, even tho on game we already killing Fatalis on MH1 or FU and we already kill Zinogre on MHP3RD.

[@silentprotagonist3786]

​@@Nematoda4ever Iceborne Fatalis retconned the lore, apparently the Guild never saw a Fatalis before, so any encounter before Iceborne is non-canon and more of a "what-if" As for Amatsu this is definitely a separate Amatsu. Iceborne already tells us there are multiple Alatreon (the lorebook further tells us that another was spotted at Sacred Land), so it's also possible for there to be multiple Amatsu. Fatalis the only exception, of being only one of an entire species (so far)

[@Nematoda4ever]

@@silentprotagonist3786 its not, there's crimson fata and white fata, crimson are fatalis who live in harsh environment like volcanic region, white fata are the matured black fata, so there's multipe fatalis, there's no retconned the lore, there's different Fatalis out there, it just Guild havent seen one since fatalis mostly just chilling on their territory, and ancient civilization got wiped thanks to white fata and take over their tower, and thats long before black fata destroying the country.

[@lubbo5261]

He may got his ass beaten by Amatsu, but the fact Apex Zinogre was brave enough to challange Calamity Class Elder Dragon is still really cool.

[@markisshano7334]

*???? has appeared....* Amatsu: Nani? Apex Zinogre: Guess who bitch! (Howls) Amatsu: You again?!

[@Fenyxclips]

Apex Zinogre showing up during the hunt and having a turf war was the best fucking thing I saw in a while (in terms of turf wars)! THEN TO RIDE AFTERWARDS?! Even taking over Amatsus theme?! Curious to if the other monsters that could show up has a theme takeover like that!

[@LoncusZhao]

No theme takeovers for the other (CGV). I actually like the detail going into how you need both you and Utsushi to ride the Apex Zinogre, but also how Apex Zinogre was so shook from getting piledrived that he couldn't fully shake off the wirebugs.

[@xandan1668]

Let's call this Zinogre what it is, Thunderlord.

[@grandmagertrude7676]

I LOVE that zinogre’s theme completely overtook amatsu’s theme in this moment

[@BoodyCheek]

This shit had me on the floor screaming This was too fuckin cool to see for the first time

[@gluttonyfang6674]

Utsushi doesn't even need to use Stinkmink there, all he had to do was tell Zinogre "Yo, were are fighting Amatsu rn, wanna dip?"

[@jontuxen2724]

Zinogre is pissed that his territory always invaded by Amatsu

[@freshthemeemer4266]

Look i really love the all mother narwa fight and how magna interrupts it, but this just goes to show how anti climactic it felt that magna and narwa did not have a turf war like this

[@htfs493]

Ikr, even when it did happen all the while back I thought it was so awesome but it needed to be a turf war, not just an interruption.

[@heiwavt7289]

I guess the only argument towards this is I guess zinogre and amatsu lorewise have beef. Then again magnamalo still I imagine would have reasons to be aggressive towards narwa

[@grantchoitz1420]

This turf war alone made Sunbreak one of my favorites in the series

[@gamechanger8908]

Apex Zinogre like Thunderlord is known to be able to fight Elder lvl threat lorewise and hold their ground, and this is one of the first instances where it's shown.

[@Pepeeeeeeeeeeir]

Zinogre is back at it again, and this time he's actually fighting back against the amatsu who once took their home.

[@OTBASH]

Got his ass kicked but Zinogre still had the balls to go for it. Respect.

[@tykayneroberts4513]

Oof, knocked out of charged state too. Amatsu's no slouch in the physical strength department.

[@ninjaboyjames]

Zinogre getting it back in blood. This is the best turf war since rajang vs devilgo

[@greenedge2055]

My favorite monster of all time really shined in this game. I was losing my mind watching this for the first time. Followed by going through water blasts, lightning strikes and tornadoes to thrash Amatsu while riding this beast. Stay the best Zinogre.

[@Okamigirl2013]

I straight up lost my doggone mind when Utsushi came back with an APEX Zinogre XD and then the triple tag team?! Best fight ever

[@timestate9718]

I love how they made the zinogre look like thunderlord.

[@Blues2Dark]

I'm not going to lie, this was insane! You even got to dual mount it! How awesome is that!?

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

Solidified why I love Zinogre, honestly. I'm PRAYING he returns in Wilds

[@lubbo5261]

Zinogre was in every MH so far ever since he first appeared in Portable 3rd.

[@captaingold3153]

I like to think that this Zinogre was the one that Amatsu drove away from its habitat, and now, after becoming stronger and harden by nature, came back for vengeance, like: Zinogre: Hey, storm lizard! Remember what you did to me? TIME FOR SOME PAYBACK! Amatsu: Oh, so you, a mere insect, wants the smoke from me, a god, huh? Ok, COME CATCH THESE WATER BEAMS!

[@hello.9958]

Amatsu: you cannot defeat me Hunter: i know, but they can Zinorge and Utsushi: *appear out of nowhere and beat the shit out of Amatsu*

[@CrimsonVox]

I would be awesome though if zinogre stayed and helped you throughout the fight because of the lore about how zinogre got kicked put by the mountains by amatsu

[@BeastlyBrand]

Bro wanted the smoke, AND BY GOG, HE GOT IT!

[@humannomore7759]

Essentially what happens afterwards is: "Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a human." "What about side by side with a hunter?" "Ay, I could do that"

[@pablohater9934]

Very cool and badass moment. But I think it speaks for Amatsu strength, that one of strongest Apexes can only so much as scratch him, before he gets his ass handed by him. Mind you that Amatsu is already pretty hard beaten down by the hunter. I think he around 30 or 20% health at this point.

[@Amatsu_storm_approach]

We gotta say that apexes are the leaders of entire packs of monsters (elder tier levels included).

[@ScratSlayerOfGods]

Since Amatsu makes storms and thunder Zinogre can turn into an Apex this could be the Zinogre from the MHP3 cutscene fighting Amatsu now Apex because of its battle before.

[@youtuber12148]

I love that Zinogre's revengence status😭❤

[@Nematoda4ever]

at least, Zinogre can get its revenge against Amatsu, bet that Apex Zinogre already waiting for this moment after getting kicked out from its own home by Amatsu at MHP3RD.

[@jacobleyh993]

I don’t know what made this turf war more legendary. The fact that it’s the first time we’ve seen an Apex monster in a turf war, or the fact that it’s opponent was a an elder dragon powerful enough to be called a god. Next they’ll probably have a arch tempered Ruiner Nergigante turf war one of the three highest of monster Gods, Fatalis! This turf war was downright historic!!

[@yujisawada3397]

Gave me goosebumps. What a great callback to P3rd.

[@flaggy185]

It is said that Zinogre can handle a fight against 3 other monsters So i guess it's normal that an Apex Zinogre can fight against an Elder

[@liviekumori]

I literally screamed inside when he showed up, what a nice reference to P3rd. And we finally get to see them fight!

[@Colelyoe2]

BRUH I GOT SO HYPED WHEN THIS HAPPENED! THIS MAKES UP FOR NOT GETTING PORTABLE 3RD IN THE WEST!

[@gamebitz7397]

He’s avenging his dad that Amatsu killed in 3

[@lavaughnsosa5111]

This is so freaking cool, an thunder lord vs God of disaster

[@jackiecsh8388]

zinogre gets his revenge after 13 years later....

[@caesar7786]

He put up a great fight but still got his ass kicked at the end

[@ougazu32]

Portable 3rd Reunite!!! (I'm late) Imagine if they using Zinogre original theme

[@matthewrobledo8996]

Aa yes the rivalry that stretched way back from portable 3rd

[@notareptilianiswear.6600]

When I first saw that Zinogre I for a moment thought they’d brought back Deviant Monsters, and a Thunderlord had joined the fight, not just an Apex.

[@GatekeepertoSorrow]

They got monsters pulling Izuna drops good god i love these games.

[@diaborodevil3161]

Kagero: you took everything from me Amatsu: I don’t even know who you are Howwwwwlllllllllllllllll Amatsu: huh Zinorge: you took everything and more from my kind Amatsu: how did you survive

[@bobsmith8405]

LET'S GO ZINOGRE!!!!

[@deobartolini2800]

Amatsu after slamming Apex Zinogre for the 2nd time: Stand up mf! I said! Stand up!

[@BudokaiTH]

....Top favorite turf war by far.

[@XiasIV]

That Zinogre all the way back in Portable 3rd grew up to become an Apex (Rise ver.) of its species and the moment he laid eyes on Amatsumagatsuchi he remembered that the infernal springs belonged to no one else but the Thunderlord.

[@unpayedovertime626]

This Apex Zinogre isnt Apex. It should have been a Thunderlord.

[@Scorched-jj5vx]

This should’ve been the real elder dragon of lightning.Not just some silly excuse like Kirin.

[@arahelis2038]

Zinogre is my favorite monster (obviously) And I struggled a lot against Amatsu, I played very very safe so I didn't do a lot of damage, and once it enraged and the theme switched, I thought I wouldn't be able to finish in time (I was at like 25 minutes) Then Utsuchi goes to fetch a monster and I'm like "You better bring something good" Then custscene, then the apex zinogre appears, then the theme reswitches to Zinogre's, and I'm like "GO MY BOI FUCK HIM UP" Best fight ever

[@animeandgames6397]

I love how amatsu, ibushi, and narwa represent suijin god of water, fujin god of wind, and raijin god of thunder in japanese mtthology.

[@marcthomas5949]

Hit em with the primary lotus

[@Sam_Aconitum]

i just finished this urgent quest last night and that turf war is sooooo fucking awesome! i wonder if thats the jinouga who is staring at amatsu at the start of MHP3rd

[@justyouraveragegamer5065]

Magnamalo thought him well 😌

[@skyereave9454]

"We meet again"

[@Zakoizuka984]

Super cool! I got Valstrax to come instead, although he missed the mount punisher qwq

[@agent5333]

If you don’t bring utsushi Valstrax will come instead.

[@Netherwolf6100]

I *HATE* that we only get to see this scene once in our own playthroughs man...... this and watching Fiorayne punch the hell outta Gaismagorm! We should be able to see this sequences whenever we want.

[@Theanotherusereninternet]

yes you can, but you must take them as UNIQUE companions

[@ninjafrog6966]

You can though if you take utsushi on the quest as a follower

[@Netherwolf6100]

@@ninjafrog6966 yeah but doing so doesn't trigger the Zinogre. I know I've tried

[@Angy-yk3hh]

When there are 2 large monster on the field, the one more dominant will have their theme played in the background (Zinogre theme start playing) Amatsu: "bro wtf??!!"

[@mrfirestar9604]

Monster hunter portable 3rd fans would lose it here (I played it and it one of the best old gen monster hunter games, if you can find English patch)

[@KogiMH]

Now it also have HD Texture mod

[@liopleurodon2000]

The only thing that would make this better would be Zinogre's mount theme from Iceborne

[@isma-eelchotia2127]

What if I told you zinogre had that rajang in him

[@MeowgiMode]

This is so fucking awesome.

[@SCR_ProductionsYT]

amatsu in sunbreak!?!?

[@personguy2262]

Yep, title update 5 brought Amatsu and Risen Shagaru

[@Blues2Dark]

Be ready for one wild ride!

[@mrsamuel5572]

Two of my favourite monster are here, CRIMSON VALSTRAX ARE THERE TOO

[@HeyMister457]

Wait wha- *got ambush by valtrax*

[@RellShark]

Lil bro really is pissed off after losing his homs

[@tkhero7045]

the thing that really scares me is the fuckin speed amatsu is still flying around at, even with a multi-ton lighting beast biting at its face.

[@jacobleyh993]

Just when I though Capcom couldn’t possibly top Malzeno and Scorned Magnamalo’s turf war... they surprised me. In fact, they did more than surprised. They exceeded expectations! I only with this: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYGzk2qko62sgpI was playing the minute the Apex Zinogre showed up.

[@Nello_angelo]

After 14 years he got his revenge

[@klaxocuchulainn2554]

Nothing scares me more than a Roided Up Banana

[@whitejester]

Jesus Christ they’re so fast my eyes can’t keep up

[@Fulgur_Rage]

Who's gonna tell Apex Zinogre he's going after the wrong leviathan elder

[@FurnaxIkki]

Nobody. This was the absolute *perfect* way to have one last acknowledgement of Portable 3rd, letting Zinogre finally get to take a crack at Amatsu after all these years.

[@nargiaz]

Wdym? It's the *right* one

[@crossfire4691]

It's the right one though

[@Fulgur_Rage]

@@crossfire4691 The apex monsters are made from Ibushi and Nrawa

[@Fulgur_Rage]

​@@nargiaz Apex monsters are caused by Ibushi and Nrawa so he's getting his revenge on the wrong elder

[@G1Grimlock94]

0:19 Fight

[@w0nderlord02]

Now imagine Thunderlord Zinogre

[@GachaThalochTheGreenWolfArcher]

The Great Apex Zinogre Battle The Wind Elder Dragon, Is So Awesome!!!!! 🦖⚔️🐉

[@mehdi.dz4541]

Capcom really did fan service here.

[@sasakikojiro5538]

The beef aint end at MHP3rd, even so the apex still fail to reclaim his victory against lord of calamity.

[@fruitzurk]

Nergigante vs Magnamalo would be awesome. Can modders please make it happen?

[@tristanwilliams4180]

i Love This Dragon so Much! But i wanna see Some World Dragons Like the Spikey one

[@yanielo.velazquez5831]

Check me out, Ace! Time to hang ten!

[@paulybanez9614]

Zinogre's entrance was cool and all, but goddamn was it disrespected with that slam

[@KhezuOnYourScreen]

Mf came all the way from Yakumo to run it down

[@MidnightDrake]

I'm gonna pretend this zinogre is utsushi's pet. Why? ...it's funny.

[@nightmareguardian9310]

I might be the only one who thinks this but both sunbreaks and rises turf wars are way too fast

[@Dres2000]

In terms of choreography, or duration?

[@nerotrius]

Nargacuga is crying because he is not invited as a flagship for mh3pu vs amatsu

[@kingkamina4953]

He’s the flagship of Freedom Unite, not P3rd

[@joshuamoore5960]

Bro it’s so well made, first zinogre gets the drop on amastu and they battle until zinogre pounds them with they’re electrified hand, zinogre wall runs to lure out amastu’s beam. Zinogre now having an opening leaps at amatsu but sadly is brought into the sky and slammed down, winning amatsu the battle. It’s scenes like this which make me love this game

[@foster2095]

smh should've just gotten a furious rajang and spammed down + A

[@Yaya4K]

how do we rewatch the fight with the Zinogre? I only have the Valtrax every time

[@KogiMH]

maybe random spawn?

[@halpmih6995]

Bring Utsuhi

[@gothicblack5876]

Zinogre Tormenta vs Amatsu 😃🤙

[@imahaloguy]

Does this only happen once? It’s been Valstraxx each time since for me.

[@KogiMH]

try bring utsushi as the only follower, someone in the comment said apex zinogre will spawn, I haven't tried it yet

[@Theanotherusereninternet]

@@KogiMH is correct