AMAZING... But the Price? Begg Knives Production Bodega D2/G10 Folding Knife - Overview and Review

Full review of the new Begg Knives production Bodega.
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[@joeyoung4871]

Steelcraft i though was the manufacturer i do believe

[@metal_complex]

@@joeyoung4871 Steelcraft is the series. Not the OEM. That's just what the main brand named this line of products

[@rando27enco]

I feel like the longer you have been a knife enthusiast the more this knife will appeal to you. Seems like premium levels of action and fit and finish for budget materials for a mid range price. Not for me but I’m glad people have an “affordable” option for Begg designs.

[@j.savage1228]

I paid $150 for an AD20.5 with butter soft Aus10a. This knife here isn't bad at all.

[@MostlyHarmlessEDC]

120 doesn't seem too bad for this knife, but I reeeeaaally wish that OEMs would just switch to 14c28n as the "standard" budget steel.

[@TomcatEDC]

Love both Begg knives and bought both and don’t regret it. The build quality is incredible. LTK did a HRC test and was like 6.1 or 6.2 can’t remember but he was surprised how high it came in.

[@wes.killed.it.5511]

Yuup; was two different Bodega's I believe that came in at 62.1 RC. LTK even had a video from Bladeshow where he talks to the guy that owns Begg Knives (not Todd, it's his brother who now owns the company), and he mentioned the great HRC results he got from the D2 being used, and the guys response was awesome; said something like the OEM that they use is like the only company that was willing to shoot for higher hardness so they went with them. But he also was adamant on keeping the OEM a secret as well. I'll take that D2 over 100% of average M390 any day lol

[@jimmys249]

@@wes.killed.it.5511 I was looking these up out of curiosity and this comment is the best thing I could have heard about them, that's kind of amazing.

[@cwalker228]

I’ve been lusting after this knife for a while now. This model in particular because it seemed affordable (I’m fairly new and haven’t spent more than $100 on a knife). Now that it’s available…… I bought the Astio instead 🤷‍♂️ It was much easier than I thought it would be to spend $100+ for a knife 😂

[@chrishinkle5982]

I was thinking this was gonna be a few hundred bucks or something I can see the price being disputed some but I personally don’t mind paying for knives I like regardless of steels and materials and I like it myself so I will get one. Thanks for sharing bud!👊🏻

[@Chris-eo9bu]

The Astio is a great model as well loving both of them but I do wish they could have used 154cm

[@s30vguy8]

I only paid $93 for a cold steel AD15 in s35vn but that was on sale. This knife is worth $120 and you can find discount codes for White Mountain knives to get it cheaper.

[@ihop4no14]

Anyone complaining about $120 for this knife either doesn't collect knives or hasn't compared these to Benchmade, Spyderco and some others who are using Grivory scales and FRN scales that are priced even higher. From my experience, the build quality of the Todd Begg Knives from Reate & Steelcraft is equal to or even superior to these other brands and worth the money.

[@robertbrunello]

Why couldn't they make it have a decent sharpening choil?

[@Below-Average_Joe]

$120, hell, I thought you were going to say $300, the way you were going on about the price!😂 A slight steel upgrade like 14c28N would be nice, but I have no problem with D2. There is a whole lot of machining on this knife. This design, well done, is not going to be budget priced.

[@shawnlavigne9069]

I remember watching that Skelton vid back in the day.

[@channelzero8916]

I used to have a field grade bodega and carried it for a year or two, what a great slicey knife If this can live up to its predecessor then definitely worth getting

[@hificat101]

I used to have a problem with D2, but don't anymore. Just get some KPL Knife shield and treat the blade occasionally. Not really complicated. I will admit I feel somewhat better about it when they at least call it "cryo D2". I'm more enamored with the gentleman's knife in this series.

[@flapxjackson]

If you want a custom Bodega, Todd Begg made some customs to celebrate his 40 years of knife making. They were priced at $5400 each.

[@ChrisGraham8]

Couple thoughts. Sub $100 knives are rarely this large or feature this level of milling and fit and finish. Other D2 Chinese knives aren’t testing at 62HRC which makes D2 a MUCH better steel than the others you’ve mentioned. So we’re really talking about $20 here?? You can’t tell me the fit/finish, premium treatment of D2 and the intricate milling details aren’t worth the extra $20? Not to mention the size of this blade? I think the price is very fair and I’m personally waiting for better colors OR a CF variant.

[@markp4401]

I wonder if D2 is being hated on so much these days just because people like 154 CM and 14C28N better. D2 certainly has reasonable edge retention and toughness. It corrodes but so do a lot of the premium tool steels. I’ve heard that D2 can be hard to heat treat properly and consistently in large batches. Overall though I think D2 is being dogged a little too much.

[@jkstdstang]

Properly heat treated D2 is actually on par with S30V. I think people don’t like D2 in general due to the overexposure of cheap and poorly heat treated knives in that steel, that D2 is not technically stainless although it has almost enough chromium to be, and that its been around a long time. Its not my favorite steel either and i do agree id prefer sandvik steel or 154cm but D2 is serviceable. Someone mentioned the G10 cheapening the look where the original Bodega and even the Steelcrafts produced by Reate used different finishes to make the scale pop between the lines but there were also Bodegas with monotone G10 scales just like this one, I wanna say maybe the field grades before the steelcraft line came out. For me its the heavy stainless framelock choice I don’t love but I do appreciate its bolted on like the customs. The steelcrafts were pretty nice and didn’t even have that feature. The Design is iconic and a grail to some. I just missed out on a nice condition Reate made steelcraft bodega for 2 bills this evening bc i was typing too slow and another buyer snagged it out from under me. Thats what brought me here and Im trying to resist buying this budget version now lol.

[@jkstdstang]

Also i wish i knew who the OEM is!

[@t_mac010]

I'll take build quality and design over materials all day. I live on the Florida coast, so d2 is not awesome for me, but anything d2 and up in terms of steel quality is fine by me at almost any price. If the quality is there, I'll take it

[@mcsquirgle]

I hope you take a look at one of the new Begg Knives Diamici with the damascus blade. Its around the same price as this but I am inclined to be a little more accepting of the price with the inlay work they do on it and id prefer a 9cr / vg10 damascus to D2

[@rickluft267]

I enjoy this knife I ordered a green handle

[@jgio8756]

Don't know why so many people dislike D2. Five years ago it was a wanted steel. It a few years 14c28n, nitro v and 154cm will all be the same. D2 isn't a bad steel.

[@metal_complex]

Most of us don't dislike D2. That's an incorrect assumption

[@jgio8756]

Sorry didn't mean to make an assumption I'm a big fan of yours. Just a lot of people look pass it now if it's on a new model.

[@ChrisGraham8]

Too many people are caught up in labels. How many POORLY heat treated M390 knives have hit the market that get a pass because it’s “M390”? The D2 they are using is being independently tested to around 62HRC which makes it far better than other steels you could put in this price range. Not all D2 is the same. As long as the steel isn’t a 440 variant or an 8cr I’m happy with it.

[@HobbyHobbit-ue6oi]

The holes in the blade give me Boker Mermaid vibes.

[@mikereese15]

I also like the execution

[@Macgyver46]

I have no issues paying the price for a Begg design. Would I like a different steel yes, would i carry and use it anyway YES! 😊

[@mitch_edc]

My dream a high end production arch nemisis like the typhoon. People can dream!

[@mk_cichlids]

I also thought you were going to say $300. Ive got no issue with the price. There is some nice machine work on this, and it would make a great edc knife. Is there a lot of competition in that price range? Sure, there are many great knives in that range, but they aren't bodegas. For somebody who has always wanted a bodega, this is perfect.

[@Robin-oe8vt]

I don’t know…$120 isn’t that bad. I would give it a go.

[@TheSMPStudios]

I’ll be honest, I’ve been eying this, but paying $120 for D2 it’s putting me off! Not that I’m a steel snob, it’s just that there’s so many good d2 knives out there for much less!! The mini glimpse is priced much better at $80. Same materials but with a liner lock.

[@GordonSurratt]

Budget knife guy here. I’ll willingly “overpay” for a D2/G10 from Eikonic just so I can have a legit Chavez design. This is way more knife than that one. Fair enough. In the same vein, I’ll willingly “overpay” for small batch designers like Divo, Tempest, Orion, Qvist, etc. (Just add another knife to my wishlist. Thanks, MC)

[@joeyoung4871]

I love this knife

[@deercloun323]

Not at all what Begg knives used to be. I'm glad I have a few of the original ones.

[@No1ANTAGON1ST]

This or the knifecenter exclusive titanium and burlap micarta wharncliffe CJRB Pyrite?

[@jerrymuns]

Seems like it’s a brand new company OEM’ing this model, or the info would have leaked by now. It shouldn’t be kept a secret because the fit and finish seem top notch especially for this price range.

[@thomaslake7200]

Did MC just say that it’s hard and boy does feel good, or did I hear wrong?

[@charvey635]

these look and are priced like they're made by whoever makes brous blades. Being said now that they are showing up at more retailers in Canada and the price has come down a bit its alittle easier to swallow the price.

[@hificat101]

Does this knife only have a steel liners on the lock side?

[@thisarepatar]

100% do not care!!! I MUST HAVE THIS!!!! It was also the first Jim Skelton video I watched all those years ago lol

[@spyderg6509]

Lmao i never really read your comment section to see if the people you make fun of actually write crazy dumb comments or word vomit all over there key board, you are actually telling the truth LMFAO... there are some goofy know it alls out there. So funny 😆🤙😂

[@johnj.baranski6553]

Watched whole video expecting the price to be 200 based on the lead up...120 is low...you used to say to not base cost analysis solely on the materials...why are you doing that now? With this knife the buyer is paying for the Bodega...years of that original design earning its historical place in the knife community...there's a cost to that...plus how nicely you described its construction, attention to detail and action...is there another 120 dollar knife that accomplishes this much? Doubtful. So the only complaint must derive from the materials used...and thats wrong...besides when specifically did g10 and d2 become associated with "cheap" ...those are quality materials.

[@rando27enco]

When he… talks about not judging… on materials, usually… there is some other factor such… as location being made or… misconstrued price differences for materials… in this case… it’s g10 and d2 made in china… very high quality… but still same material… this knife you… are paying for the design, fit and finish… some people are okay paying for this… others are not… but just about everyone… can agree… 200 would by way to fucking high…

[@Buzz-Killjoy]

So, what..? He's not allowed to have an opinion? That's what these videos are. All he said was that he'd prefer to have seen a different steel used for this price. He also said if you like it, go for it. Not like he's railing against it, warning people not to buy it. I like the knife, and I'll probably buy one at some point (well, the Astio, 'cause I prefer that blade shape and it's a full ounce lighter than this one). I listened to the information, and *gasp* made my own choice.

[@metal_complex]

Was gonna reply but I can see most people understand where I was coming from. Carry on folks

[@cwalker228]

I think if they had used a different knife steel (“ premium”) it would be selling for a much higher price. It wasn’t that long ago that D2 at this heat treat was considered a premium knife blade steel

[@Shifftymking]

So Chinese made d2 and g10 at $120 ouch. Sorry but for d2 I’m not willing to go over $50-60 unless it’s titanium and carbon inlays maybe. But that’s just my opinion.

[@ericmack001]

What’s cheap about the knife is that you will see a line in the G10 that on the original knife represents two different materials being used. On this knife it’s just G10. Everything should not be dumbed down. I think the original knife is a Grail in terms of what Todd Begg achieved as a knife maker. The Bodega is an iconic knife design. The details of the knife are lost in this basic version. I wish Todd had designed a different basic knife. What makes something special gets lost when you try to dumb it down

[@Buzz-Killjoy]

Make it be less expensive!@! 😁

[@paullmight42]

Begg is an acquired taste...

[@jamieluvsknives3912]

I don't think the price is crazy your paying for a high end designer and I wouldn't think that's a reate made knife since they don't have a budget line

[@Barney_Greenway]

I HATE INGOT D2!!111 😜

[@gimparoo1962]

Nice knife if it were $75!

[@TacticalBunnyCA]

If this is seriously THE BEST G10 and D2 knife you've ever seen then sure it might be a bit over priced but so over priced that it needs to be the ENTIRE theme of your review? I'll argue no, and here's why. Just take 15-20 buck right off the top and call that the premium of buying a "Grail" model authorized by a marquee manufacturer. Okay so that's like $100 to $105 still over priced right? Also consider that it has a rather complex design which takes alot more tooling and workmanship, so there's another $10 to 15 bucks. So $85 to 95 still over priced? Maybe not, but also consider that your saying this is the finest d2 and g10 knife you have ever seen and there's there you have another 10 bucks of value. Bringing it to around $75-85 bucks. Still over priced? I'd say no, my two most recent knife purchases are a Kershaw Iridium in D2 at $64 and a Kizer Chili Pepper in 154cm at $75 both of which are great designs but neither have perfect fit and finish so I'd say this falls straight into the category of competitively priced for exactly what it is but cleary not cheap!

[@metal_complex]

So just imagine it being less expensive and then it's not overpriced? Not sure I get your point. I think you're focusing on the price and ignoring the parts of my review where I praised the design and quality. If you like it, buy it. You don't need my approval

[@TacticalBunnyCA]

@@metal_complex Ironically it's not my aesthetic taste at all (too noisey) and I don't care for heavier knives with shorter blades but you really got me thinking on this one. I wish I expressed it better but with respect, which I real do mean respect because after doing just a couple of mediocre knife reviews of my own I realize it's fracking difficult and your knocking them out all the time, I think you were focusing on the price and not ignoring but certainly glossing over the parts where you praised the design and quality but kept coming back to what it cost. My points are based entirely on taking you for and going off of your word that it is the "best d2 and g10 knife you've ever seen". I very much so believe you but just think you might be under valueing what it takes to get a knife to that quality point especially considering the design intricacy and collaboration cost. This video realy struck me how many $75 to $150 knives I've had that are good but are lacking in refinements and banking on the blade steel and slick bearings to sell what is otherwise a very simple design that is easily slapped together. Isn't that why the AL Mar knives are so expensive and the Kershaw-Emerson colabs were so cheap? Or why a cold steel recon can have s35vn and still only cost about the same as this little guy here? I'm just thinking that at the end if the day some thing has got to give for that price.

[@metal_complex]

@@TacticalBunnyCA your analysis is missing a crucial element: Country of origin. This is the main issue when it comes to my hesitations. I know where it's made and likely what it costs to be made. Sometimes the materials really will have a massive impact on price and sometimes not so much. Sometimes the machining elements are more heavily involved in the price. These things aren't all the same for every country when it comes to cost. At the end of the day, I stand by this review. Too expensive for me. Cool knife though

[@ericmack001]

The Mid tech version of the Bodega is a work of art. All the different textures and finishes used on the knife. The Bodega being made like this is like a Rolex made of plastic. I wish Todd Begg has design a different budget knife rather than dumb down an iconic design. Everything doesn’t need to be dumbed down. You had the Steelcraft series Bodega’s that were selling for 400.00$. That wasn’t cheap enough? They needed a 100.00 Bodega?

[@jkstdstang]

Todd Begg isn’t even with Begg knives anymore. This is his brothers doing but yes the Reate produced steelcrafts were quite nice. When they came out they were compared to the customs and some had a hard time telling which was which! Wish they still made those i want one still but i do think this budget line is a good thing for those pining for a Bodega or original Todd Begg design for a more affordable price point.

[@sirsir9665]

Wish people would stop using D2. It is trash. every knife over 15 in D2 has given me an issue. It's borderline not suited to be a knife steel. I will never pay over $10 D2 because honestly that's all it's worth

[@jkstdstang]

Never heard of Bob Dozier eh

[@jeremiahpeterson-fn2ed]

First time hearing about this fn 2:14