Amazon MILWAUKEE Tools FAKE or THE SAME? Half Price!

[@mehGyver]

They counterfeited it so well, they built an authentic unit. LOL.

[@jordanalexander615]

Half of them are repaired returns

[@wpintofg]

If you don't mind buying stolen product it is alright

[@lilnapsak1828]

@@jordanalexander615this

[@martylucas8557]

@@wpintofg, they’re not stolen in most cases, they’re what’s called gray market.

[@wpintofg]

@@mjstutter12 I could not understand what you typed there sorry

[@Albert-Duz-It]

The fake one is so good it's made completely of genuine Milwaukee parts.

[@DaveR-d9n]

You're an idiot! Hahaha they are cheap because they are stolen!!! Both are legit Milwaukee tools ,

[@deanle604]

So both are fake😂😂😂

[@drgta6]

And it came from Home Depot via a fast moving shopping cart.

[@BarkerVancity]

its not fake. same exact product made in 2 location.. thats all.. they need 2 factories to keep up with demand , thats why the font is different just on the stamp..one probably deals with the eastern hemisphere and amazon, while the other deals with the western hemisphere and licenced dealers. weight differences is because of this...just a slight, maybe the metal is from different quarries 8:50, or an air pocket in the casting.. no two will ever be the excact same ...not really an issue. %100 worth getting the amazon one

[@albertsmedley3636]

@@BarkerVancity Exactly. But the weight thing was wrong. The difference was only two tenths of an ounce, not two whole ounces. Many of the things you mentioned could easily account for that.

[@natarem]

That was a .2oz difference, not a 2oz difference. That's not too surprising. It's 100% genuine, fakes are not this good. Whether it's stolen or not, hard to say, easily could be one that walked out of a home depot and onto Amazon.

[@z.bongerman1062]

If the tool is sold by an Amazon affiliate seller, and the price is lower than msrp... IT IS STOLEN.

[@ReasonableAssumption]

@@z.bongerman1062 It's not even a Milwaukee affiliate , there are none on Amazon. I would never buy a tool I depend on from Amazon especially batteries.

[@jeffweber8244]

yeah. Percentage-wise was almost no difference. No reason that they would be exactly the same down to 1/10 of an ounce. He would see at least this much variance among the units sitting on the HD shelves!

[@doncorleone2713]

A California special?

[@paulreinmund2038]

It's serialized - would be easy to blacklist on the server. I thought he said he successfully activated the Amazon one. Therefore, doubt it was stolen.@@z.bongerman1062

[@truthseeker9534]

Definitely a "off the truck" discount. I worked at homedepot there was a nationwide ring of criminals stealing from different HD. It was so big they had a warehouse of stolen goods from box stores.

[@TrevorFoster-l5m]

and the main office in Ontario Canada had a full 53' trailer full of stuff stolen, and multiple repair depots across Canada have been hit multiple times...

[@Dirtyharry70585]

Like everyone said- it’s stole so buying it is ‘fueling’ the criminals.

[@jordanalexander615]

I got some DeWalt 9 amp batteries for 85 dollar a piece. They are real the guy just sold them to me for only 10 dollars more than he paid as a favor. But he had to buy around 500 to get them at that price.

[@jimmytate7587]

that is true for all stores selling tools

[@sickbassdrop]

Buy local. Steal corporate.

[@ohyou_6599]

weight difference is in the casting of the aluminum heads, no two castings will weigh perfectly the same, there is potentially hidden air pockets in the cast and slight differences from cleanup.

[@waytostoned]

Also subtle differences in grease and variances in the wiring.

[@christianmiddleton7738]

Yeah weight difference is a big deal with a grinder. Cheap one will have weaker body and grinding head.

[@VictorMartinez-vp9gd]

As far as the weight difference, remember that the serial numbers are different also indicating different manufacturing plants with different molds for the castings.

[@albertsmedley3636]

There is no real difference. 2 tenths of an oz.. 5.7 grams. A penny weighs 2,5 grams.

[@BarniRepairs]

Guys, it's the grease.

[@curthough]

As someone who works….. for a certain company…. I can tell you that the first numbers after the letters on the serial number are the year they were made. Indicating the 2251 is from late last year and the 230? is from early this year. People will take advantages of deals where you buy batteries and get a free tool, or vice versa, and then sell the free good online for any amount of money and they would be in the green. I work in Canada and two examples would be: 1. Buy an M18 Fuel Trimmer Kit with battery and get a free leaf blower - they sell the leaf blower for $100 CDN (normally $250 CDN) and they would be making money 2. Buy two M18 6ah HO batteries with a charger for $398 CDN and get a free Fuel tool (sawzall, grinder, circ saw, etc) which would normally be $288 CDN - they sell it for $100 CDN and they’d be in the green once again

[@robsdeviceunknown]

If i may add a little insight. I'm a reseller. So very familiar with Amazon, e-bay etc. Chances are the seller you bought that milwaukee from was legit. Milwaukee often does closeouts and replace old lines etc so they liquidate old stock. People like me buy them up and resell them. We typically sell for half of retail due to the fact that you do NOT get a warranty. The problems come in with deceptive resellers. Sometimes they don't test or verify the purchase and resell it wrong. I have sold broken tools, but I always disclose that in the listing. So you got a legit product but it may have just been old stock and/or closeouts. Always check a sellers reviews before buying.

[@DannebergAcres]

​@hankhill4431😂😂😂

[@MV-wb2cz]

@hankhill4431 Tree Fitty

[@Spacecadet3890]

Dont lie we know you drive crackheads around in sprinter vans to steal your tools.

[@adambomb7331]

Milwaukee is not discontinuing enough items for that to be a way for resellers to buy. Plenty of sales to get tools cheap & stock up on, and resell to people who don't research. No person who steals wants to give out their information to a company for tracking, and they sell it low locally. They are the ads with pictures taken in their vehicle 😂 There are also authorized sellers who will sell to family/friends to increase their sales numbers. The only thing they can't do is advertise lower prices, but they can sell for whatever.

[@robsdeviceunknown]

Sorry, I have no idea what any of this meant. @@adambomb7331

[@DC5_James]

The reason that sticker, which is a FNSKU label,was placed over the UPC is because Amazon requires the upc to be covered. That sticker is how they keep track of inventory for FBA sellers.

[@SawtoothSpeedAndCustom]

The difference was only ~.2 ounces, not ~2 ounces. That is very minuet, like a fifth of a AA battery. I have gotten all my tools on Amazon besides a drill I needed same day and never had a problem with the Amazon tools. I actually did kill the home depot drill, so I bought one from Amazon the next time.

[@bradwilliams5242]

That is why you make the big bucks😅

[@bryanewing5058]

Yeah I was saying the same thing as Robert Briggs, it’s only 0.2 of an ounce. It’s probably just a little more grease in the gears of the one from HD. It’s exactly the same tool and same quality. Milwaukee is what I use too. Love em.

[@nepicness]

Did you warranty it?

[@dayspasttv2]

.2 oz could literally be humidity/moisture differences in the the cardboard boxes.

[@toddpatton5015]

different amounts of grease in the head unit could account for the weight

[@mustangjack18]

there is still a warranty when purchased from "non authorized sellers" at least in some cases. I have a impact wrench that just came back from being repaired under warranty that was purchased off ebay new. they went of the manufacture date and did not require a receipt.

[@Yoda8945]

It is likely a grey market tool purchased in China in bulk and shipped to a distributor in the US. They just bypass Milwaukee and Home Depot profit margins and warranty support. The differences in serial # fonts could be explained because Milwaukee could use multiple factories to produce the product.

[@RevItRalph]

People forget there's manufacturers vs vendors/distributors. You can get them much cheaper direct vs a chain like HD/Amazon with the strict MAP (Minimal Advertised Price) in place.

[@Letsroll000]

Yes that was my thoughts. I have encountered similar things a few times like this. That is the same product.

[@frostbite1991]

multiple lines, probably have older and newer burners for the serial numbering. Same deal at the factory I work at. Same product can be made on a few lines, but the daylot code might have a slightly different font on the newer lines vs the older ones due to different machines stamping, embossing, or burning the text.

[@jeffsaxton2051]

Milwaukee owns their Chinese factories, so no selling "out the back door" occurs. Definitely a possibility it is stolen merch, as I work Hardware at a Home Depot, and they walk out the door in droves. It may also be a factory return and sold off the pallet by Milwaukee from store returns.

[@justinoff1]

This is the correct answer

[@michaeldoyle7510]

The .2 oz difference is probably the anti theft tag in the home Depot unit that needs to be deactivated when you leave the store

[@51-FS]

Or the battery was only half charged and the heavier one had a full battery? 😅

[@zin6749]

@@51-FSI'm sorry, what?

[@51-FS]

@zin6749 if you have 2 cups of water and one is half full. Weigh them and I net the one that full will be haver

[@Melost-ib9dx]

@@51-FSthere’s no batteries in both of them

[@PTRRanger951]

@@51-FS Lithium batteries are the same, charged or empty. And as the box says, its tool only, they don't have batteries in the box.

[@phillipherbst6357]

Other than the different font of the letters and numbers of the serial number and the weight, the only other difference that I noticed was that the Amazon packaging was neater. It looked like the Home Depot packaging had been removed before and then shoved back into the box. If both items were manufactured and packaged at the same factory, one would expect the packaging to be identical as well.

[@SteelOfLegend]

If they are hand packed, then it's a person to person difference. One shift might put it in differently. I used to hand pack smoke alarms for a company (weird, I know) and everyone did it differently but the way I did it didn't fold the instructions at all. Management wanted it one way, workers did it another way, I found an efficient way to do it and they allowed it since it didn't ruin the instructions as well as making it so you can "self audit" your box before closing it.

[@wpintofg]

Of course it is authentic. They were stolen from depot direct to amazon

[@DannebergAcres]

Ya - some YTer did a "Tool review" then returned it. Next guy after Chris might notice it and say "aha"!😂😂

[@nrd515]

More likely gray market. This kind of authorized seller stuff has been used for stereo equipment, radios, and other things and they might be made at a different plant, but are pretty much identical.

[@IDT69]

You can make em work but you can’t make em do a good job lol

[@robertvincent5678]

Who said you don't get warranty when purchased from Amazon?? I messed up my 3/4 impact before warranty was up. I brought it to my local tool store that does Milwaukee warranty and I had to print them off the receipt (from Amazon) anyways after 3 weeks they called and said it can't be fixed and sent me a brand new replacement.

[@azpcox]

Would be interesting to reach out to Milwaukee Tools and see if the serial number really is legit. Since they are serialized, they should know when they were made and where it is “supposed” to be.

[@RedShiftedDollar]

I'm sure Milwaukee doesn't mind. Amazon has to be one of their largest distribution channels so there's no way Milwaukee doesn't know what's going on here. Do you think they will cut off the "dishonest" distributor? No, because they're driving a lot of sales.

[@DaveC_TN]

@@RedShiftedDollar It all depends on where that 'dishonest dealer' acquired their products...Like another poster said, there are national theft rings operating all over the place that just walk out of HDs with these tools by the shopping cart full. And, believe me, Milwaukee definitely does mind if those get resold to unsuspecting buyers - because every time they have to decline a warranty repair because it's a stolen tool not purchased at an authorized outlet, that's one more upset customer who's going to spread bad reviews.

[@MrJumper68]

It could be the fatory in china there are Salling on the side. It could be a copy... And all copys have the same number

[@ericculver9700]

I'LL save you the trouble I have had a few amazon milwaukee tools both repaired and replaced under warranty by milwaukee with no problems.

[@MattPiekarsky]

Ya'll act like Milwaukee couldn't easily buy some off amazon themselves and check numbers. If it was an issue they'd crack down on it, but clearly it is not. I've bought and warrantied several Milwaukee tools from Amazon with zero issues.@@DaveC_TN

[@louisd95714]

This video is very helpful. I am in the same situation. I searched for the hammer drill, 2904-20. They at first describe it as a 12V drill, however, all the photos, etc. are pointing to the 18V drill instead, and the label itself in the photo reads 2904-20. It is listed for only $90.00, as compared to HD's price for $200.00!. I took a chance with it and am expecting it to be delivered tomorrow. To compare, I also ordered the 3404-20, which is the 12V drill, and that one lists for only $60.00, as compared to HDs price of $149.00. If the specifications in the included manual say 1,400 inch pounds for the 2904-20 I will be one happy camper!

[@dannys9074]

update?

[@louisd95714]

@@dannys9074 Success! It is the 2904-20. Not sure how they can sell them at that price point.

[@helgedell]

Very interesting. I have worked a lot in a country in Asia, and before they had a crackdown on non-licensed clothes from brands like Polo, Nike, Adidas etc. it was easy to buy clothes on some markets that was made on the same production lines as the originals, with same materials, buttons etc. and sold for a fraction of the price of the real clothes. It was joked about by the sellers, saying it was made outside of licensing and on "overtime" for workers. Guess it was true, same with items in this video?

[@Boga217]

I got on 1 of those Chinese sites like wish or ali baba etc..ordered my wife dome underwear that was generic but still usable underwear..we got a the 6 pairs in mail a couple weeks later and it was all Victoria's secret directly from China.. had logos and all..went to store at the mall and compared them..identical stitching etc..we bought a couple dozen more and resold em on marketplace for a significant profit being we were paying about 35 cents a pair.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

A lot of those clothes have hidden defects that make them slightly out of spec. I know I bought 10 pairs of " mismanufactured" lucky jeans for $8.00 / pr. The difference between off the shelf and mine was the thread was a slightly different color.

[@jasonlisboa2170]

Not really hd does not scan serial numbers but the big clear thing was a home depot dc sticker it is used for inventory and shipping to store on what is called an "rdc" truck so they removed it to scan the barcode so they can aell it to you

[@electric8668]

Both tools probably came from Home Depot given the brazen way people are walking out of Home Depot with tools nowadays.

[@brianhause955]

DING DING DING! this is exactly what it is. Haven’t come across any fake tools on Amazon but knowing Home Depot’s cost tells me there is only one way an Amazon seller is able to sell it for half price. It’s not bulk discounts - pretty sure hd has the best price available. Supporting the Amazon thieves(sellers) only helps HD justify the constant increase in prices we have seen over the last couple years. This is the story for tools but be weary of batteries on eBay and Amazon- they are getting really good with the fakes - copying the packaging and everything to look like they would in a retail store. On ebay at least you can tell a good seller is typically selling a bunch of tools and batteries most without retail packaging because they are just breaking up combo kits and selling the parts separate. I personally stay away from Amazon because the risk of something sketchy going on is real high and you don’t usually figure it out until after the Amazon return period has ended and your battery stops working.

[@wpintofg]

That's it. People can't really do 2+2 count... It is authentic since it was stolen from depot and now it is being sold on Amazon

[@94SexyStang]

STOLEN STOLEN STOLEN.......The End. The only clowns that believe it's "bulk", are people that have ZERO clue how the real world operates....it's stolen shit, period, Lol.

[@dustinroberson1865]

my home depot isn't in a high crime area...all battery power tools are locked in a cage, with a cable going through all of them holding them in place. When you ask a sales associate to get one for you, they take it to the register. Been like this for over a year at least. That makes it kind of hard to walk off with it

[@electric8668]

@@dustinroberson1865 Most Home Depots aren't unicorns like yours.

[@paulharsh78]

The sales on Home Depot’s website are always better than in the store. Especially the combos.

[@avrdrums]

Bingo.

[@tomh9807]

Why is that? Please specify. Thx

[@paulharsh78]

Different sku’s for online combo’s. Seen it multiple times. Most recently with Black Friday 23. On the 1/2 In impact.

[@avrdrums]

@paulharsh78 I pulled the trigger this holiday season on the $600 combo set. Had some trouble with the order but after jumping through hoops I finally got a Home Depot rep that made it right and ended up paying around $540 after tax. One hell of a deal. Fuel M18 Hammer Drill, Fuel M18 Impact, Fuel M18 Multi tool, Fuel M18 Jigsaw, Fuel M18 Compact Router, M18 Flashlight, 3 and 6 amp high output batteries and a charger (standard charger not rapid 😭).

[@VideoArchiveGuy]

@@tomh9807 Also, though you can pick up and return HD online purchases in-store, HD considers online and retail two different organizations so they each have their own deals that they use to drive sales. Sounds weird, but a lot of businesses separate their online and retail arms that way.

[@JoshD4PREZ]

I’ve grabbed quite a few fuel tools off Amazon including the grinder shown and so far so good. Jigsaw, 3/8” & 1/4” ratchets, 1/2” hammer drill, vacuum, trim router, couple high output batteries, jobsite blower.. All have done incredibly well and for part time shop use I doubt I’ll ever need the warranty anyway

[@wpintofg]

They are stolen

[@Viper3870750]

@@wpintofg nobody can prove that they are. You're just assuming that. Even if they are then who fuckin cares? The buyer didn't steal them, the reseller did. It's not on the buyer for being deceived. It's on the reseller. Sounds like a win-win to me for getting a half priced, authentic tool. 🤷‍♂.

[@R.Stridstrom]

Different price since they are meant for different markets, countries, and turns up another place. Commonly known as grey market. Internet makes this convenient, im sure. Different price, same product. So if one would like to support middle men, taxes, employees and so on. Buy the expensive one.

[@wpintofg]

@@Viper3870750 I am not assuming. I work buying this tool to resell. I know the prices and the margins. You don't half of the s... Your talking. And ofc you are just thinking on what's good for tou now. At the end of the day everyone pays more for the same product and less taxes will go to the services YOU and everyone else uses. You just a d... F...

[@LG-ct8tw]

@@R.Stridstrom I have long stopped buying tools from Home Despot. Their mark up is outrageous. My local tool shop is usually able to give me a better deal or throw in accessories like a battery or blades etc and I help the little guy.

[@ryanmeeker8587]

The reason Im sure for the price difference is the amazon seller probably sells directly from the Is warehouse. Buying tools from a store is the same as buying a car from a dealership, there is always a middle man and they charge you much more then warehouse to you.

[@OldGeezerstoolbox]

One of the dirty little secrets in international trade is that products are priced differently depending on regions and what the market will bear. So exactly the same Milwaukee sold in Slobsylvania might be significantly cheaper than in the USA. "Gray market" importers often divert product into other regions and some manufacturers aggressively protect their localized higher-profit-margin markets. For instance, a Kubota in New Zealand through official channels is one price and the same Kubota imported on the gray market is quite a bit cheaper--but when you go for repair parts and don't have the right serial number, the local dealer won't even sell em to you. The USA is a moderately protected and definitely customer-ignorant market in many ways so some items get that super-premium profit mark-up.

[@TapPearson]

Except the European Milwaukee tools have different part numbers. The Amazon tools were most likely acquired from a Home Depot returns pallet. The Mom and pop tool shops do the same thing. They buy a pallet of tools for 25% of the cost and sell them for 50% of the cost.

[@christophrothert4340]

​@@TapPearson different part numbers and Milwaukee tools are significantly more expensive in Europe. A similar angle grinder model ist around 260 US$ on Amazon Germany.

[@artichoke60045]

@@TapPearson that grinder looked very neatly packed and brand new. I think they would not get many returns in that condition.

[@looloo6322]

Mercedes/Benz was running into that issue, Grey market cars were showing up at the U.S. dealerships for warranty work. Mercedes put out a letter to the U.S. dealers, stating that they are our cars built by Mercedes, fix them and get reimbursed by me/be.

[@eastonwilliams1722]

Yeah i can buy the same goods from european markets for half the price and no taxes. Most “american” companies build shit over seas then sell it to us at a huge markup. I have no issue running them out of business by buying overseas

[@jimcarr-xb4xw]

Makita tools, XDT19 impact driver, $114 on Amazon and $234 all other sellers. I tried to review it and point out that it arrived in a plain box not in the typical Makita packaging but they wouldn’t post it. I returned it and purchased it from a reliable seller.

[@stuzbots-shed]

With Makita it's easy enough to check... at least here in Europe. You get 1 year's warranty as standard extended to 3 years if you register the tool online. I've bought loads of Makita stuff online [eBay and Amazon] because it's so much cheaper than in the tool shops and rI've never had any problems registering them online for the extended warranty. I also had a Makita multitool bought off eBay replaced under warranty with no issues. Of course YMMV country by country and manufacturer by manufacturer.

[@adamjohnson7931]

I bet it would even be higher in a tool truck. I know a few years ago I priced a Milwaukee tool on a Cornwell truck and he was almost $200.00 higher than what home depot sold for. I understand they have to have some markup but that's a little much in my opinion. As far as your tool goes, I'm sure the quality is the same. Great video! Thanks for all you do.

[@jordanalexander615]

Correct mak tools is DeWalt

[@wpintofg]

Of course in the Amazon is going to be much cheaper. They are all stolen products d... ass

[@CarlYota]

I understand they need to mark it up but I don’t understand why anyone would buy it from them.

[@jstaffordii]

@@CarlYota weekly payments availability on truck account is the answer

[@inverseuniverse5727]

Mac told me , dewalt sold thru Mac are better ..but who knows .

[@pugsbella]

I buy home depot return pallets and a lot of times I get sealed milwaukee products, may be returns or home depot making shelf space for new products.

[@craigmerrill2156]

Tell me how please

[@sk3d123]

I had a Milwaukee m12 ratchet that I bought on eBay warranty repaired by Milwaukee a few years ago w/o issue. Just had to provide proof of purchase and serial #.

[@nnkhmisc]

Interesting. Good to know!

[@stickyfox]

I worked in a factory that made parts for power tools and lawn equipment. We had to destroy nonconforming material, because people will crawl into the dumpster and take stuff to sell as repair parts on eBay. I've also seen people fired for loading their car with custom parts for popular consumer products to sell online.

[@Korloko]

Lots of good theories in here, I have a new one. The bundles offered by Milwaukee are sometimes very generous. Maybe a seller realized they could buy bundles and sell the individual items at a discount while still making a profit. Basically becoming a retailer…

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

I own both Amazon, Home Depot and Tool Truck versions, they all seem the same and most have been trouble free. 3/8 extended reach had a board go bad inside bought on the tool truck. He sent it in for repair for me, no charge.

[@gumonmyshu]

I'm in the construction field and there is always someone driving around the job site trying to hawk tools that are from warehouse break-ins or walked out Home Depot products. Media-based markets are no different.

[@garyr7027]

I'm pretty sure the difference in price is in the warranty. I know from experience when I got tools from a local supplier on my job, we got them cheaper than most brick and mortar places. Turns out Milwaukee warranties their products according to manufacturing date, not according to date of sale. So, if you buy a Milwaukee tool under three year warranty, that warranty may already be half over or more before you even buy it. The warranty time period is the determining factor on price of the product. You loose warranty before you buy it, it will be cheaper than a full warranty tool no matter where you purchased it from. If the warranty is out by manufactured date then you'll probably only pay half price. However, since most Milwaukee tools are good you could end up saving alot of money on lower warranty periods.

[@jmackinjersey1]

As far as the serial numbers being slightly different, even the Milwaukee tools I have are slightly different. There are so many variables, like humidity, amount of ink on the stamp head, how old was the stamp head, was the sticker or tool still moving when it was stamped, and so on.

[@jeremyl.7563]

Thanks for posting this just showed up in my feed. I just recently did the same thing, I needed the Milwaukee cut off tool for a job I was doing at home. I noticed a pretty big price difference between Ace and Home Depot vs Amazon. I went with the Amazon everything was correct and worked great. I too wondered about the price point difference. I did receive my tool the next day which tells me it's already stocked at an Amazon location.

[@sageofidiocy422]

The manufacturing plant that Milwaukee paid to produce the tools wants to run 24/7, but Milwaukee didn't pay to run 24/7 production, so they could keep the tool at higher price in stores. In turn the Chinese manufacturer is using the molds provided by Milwaukee and making their own to sell to make more profit. When outsourcing stuff like this can be common, this is why companies have to be very careful when outsourcing to any China-based companies.

[@DocZoidberg549]

They are called gray goods. I bought a high end pioneer reciever with no warranty. It was not a knock off. It was not sold by pioneer US, with no warranty. It is still working 20 years later.

[@mg8718]

Amazon sellers buy skids and pallets of damaged fright, returned items ect from trucking companies and liquidators and somtimes even stolen merchandise.

[@SuperAgentman007]

I purchased a while back a Dewalt drill kit came with a hammer drill and a driver drill with the batteries and the charger $359 it was brand new right in the box. I have the warranty with it. If I would’ve purchased the parts separately, it would’ve costed more but they do make fake knock offs of certain tools, but these ones were genuine.

[@MyDIYAdventures]

This is the detective work I’m here for!

[@1978garfield]

Did wifey put on a trench coat to look like a detective or is that just her coat?

[@simonlunt353]

I am a big fan of Milwaukee tools and packouts and as a joiner I put my tools through a lot of hard work and they never let me down but I always buy from Milwaukee registered dealers and never use the replica batteries maybe it’s different over here in the uk 🇬🇧 all I know is Milwaukee is not cheap but you get what you pay for and if you register your tall with Milwaukee tools here in the UK. They are backed up thanks for your time and consideration 😊keep safe 👍

[@99Projects]

maybe the mark up at home depot is just ridiculously more? I'm not sure how the average amazon joe would get bulk Milwaukee tools to get a bulk discount though. interesting comparison, never thought about this

[@castortroy9194]

Lol bulk discount. They are making 100 percent profit. The tools are stolen.

[@94SexyStang]

NO, it's Stolen tools 1000%, Period.

[@abradbury7290]

I bought the M18 deep cut bandsaw on Amazon for a steal and the tool was a complete dud, tried everything but it wouldn't do a thing. However, i returned it and got another from the same seller out of curiosity and the replacement one still runs like a champ.

[@davefury66]

Oh good one Chris 👍🏼! This vid is going to get a hole lata views. I'll come back later and read the comments cuz I'm interested in what the professional viewer's are gonna input 😂

[@1oddtech]

Could be a anti theft tag in the HD vs the Amazon. As far as the price the Amazon ones are built for a different market and thus are available cheaper than in America

[@TDSPYT]

If you’re looking to obscure the serial numbers, you should also cover the QR code.

[@ScottGenX]

to funny. cracks me up what people think.

[@charlesfuglie2491]

You still get warranty if you bring it to a good dealer. I had to do warranty and the dealer I bought it from told me that they can't do it. So I brought it do a different tool place and they did the warranty. I got a new tool out of the warranty because of a trigger not working

[@offroaddreams4x4ed]

Well, you discovered that they’re both identical that’s amazing and they’re both really genuine Milwaukee. LOL

[@toddbob55]

I have seen a TON of fakes on amazon ....even bought a gates radiator hose it was a bootleg fake it literally was as thin as a bicycle tire tube .....sent it back and went to Oreilly.

[@MrMattDat]

Again, great video! Based on your info, I am confident they are both legitimate tools and think you nailed it when you mentioned "maybe it fell off the back of a truck". If you dig into the seller's info on the jungle site, it is a house in Los Angeles. But this person/company sells A LOT of Milwaukee and Dewalt tools. Could they be a rep?

[@RevItRalph]

^ They are distributors who aren't trying to Match the profit from HD/Amazon. They get them direct from the source and as long as they sell cheaper than the Major chains they will continue to make money. Amazon and other chains have to obey MAP = (Minimal Advertised Price) to make it equal to all vendors. Some get 30% off some get 50-60% or more. But the listed price must remain the same. Hence why you'll see chains post *See Price in Cart*

[@Demicron]

Print font variation can be from printer to printer. Could be from a number of issues with setting up those types of printers. We work with them daily.

[@SamW604]

Thank you for doing this video. I have often thought about the differences.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

My main gripe is that both have a pabble switch. I like milwaukees toggle switch variable speed dude. I use mine for stonework.

[@IIlicit]

its probably just stolen tools that are resold

[@christopherkingrey4411]

A LOT of tools coming from resellers buying skids of returns

[@disselbeck6264]

I think there is an earlier version of Amazon where, for example, someone complained and something had to be changed. The version from Amazon is an older version but the same device looks at the production date.

[@Olds_Pwr]

I say they are the same. As for pricing, I do not know how The Home Depot ever sells any of their outrageous priced tool batteries.

[@MichaelMoore-dw7ft]

They sell them to people that are paranoid of the Internet and/or can't do research on how to look for sales

[@arsumbris6392]

You're getting the dramatic discount (likely) from two seller methods: arbitrage (someone combs the internet for inventory reduction deals in bulk) or return pallets with "near mint" items (returns chain stores decided wasn't economical to restock). Sometimes these business models are only profitable in certain geographic regions. Sellers setup in those regions use big box trucks and small warehouses to swoop up and inventory the bulk. That affords them huge margins so they can undersell the going rate more often, even when the market is saturated with items. Counterfeits and stolen items aren't the only way to offer big discounts.

[@Rick-4552]

I bought a Milwaukee framing nailer off of Amazon and have put over 3000 nails in with it with no issues? I beat the snot out of it so I am guessing its real😊

[@z.bongerman1062]

It's real, real stolen

[@wpintofg]

Of course it is real. It was stolen from depot probably and resold below cost to you

[@PontiacKid2]

The big shiny square is just left over glue something from our Home Depot warehouse shipping label from the RDC (name of our shipping warehouse).

[@alaskabornheathen8902]

My guess is the Amazon one was previously returned from Home Depot or another retailer. Do you know what happens to the tools you return to the store? They don’t go back on the shelf most of the time. They get wrapped up on a pallet and sold to an auction house. So my guess is this came off of a pallet. You can get a pallet of returned Milwaukee tools for 3-4 grand. The tools on that pallet were probably worth 10-12 grand new, so even if you sell them at half price you’re still making good coin for little to no work. Of course the risk is you might get tools that were returned because they were defective and not just because someone wanted to do the Home Depot Hack.

[@frankd8957]

i have purchased electrical items from HD that were used and returned and put back on the shelf. I know this because parts were missing or replaced. Contractors in my area return items all the time.

[@alaskabornheathen8902]

@@frankd8957 I think they treat hardware and supplies differently than power tools. It’s just too risky to put a returned tool back on the shelf. But an unopened spool of wire or an unused gang box is what it is. It could even be a directive from the power tool company. They probably wouldn’t want to honor warranty on a tool that was previously returned.

[@Wolfiecolada]

prob a return item or remanufactured/refurbished and a slightly older model iteration. the amazon does look to have a bit more sheen on the metal head end and where the disk clamp is. looks like there is oil there like it may have had a refresh or something done to it.

[@bobbyratto892]

Milwaukee warrantied a drill driver for me that was purchased with amazon. no issues.

[@UvRateEXE]

I found that the black head of the Amazon one is shinier then the HD 1. The HD 1 was more of a matte black. 6:45 and it’s def not the lightning

[@lordtickles1478]

Interesting. Love your channels. Keep up the great work.

[@Is-R-a-construccion]

Amazon definitely does not sell pirated tools, they are original tools purchased from offers at Home Depot and they resell them on Amazon, believe me, Home Depot also sells them at the same price as Amazon, 100 dollars or sometimes for 199 dollars, you get a tool or an extra battery, there is the business. Of those sellers, by the way, throughout the year, Home Depot has offers in the app on Mondays and Thursdays, or sometimes it changes, but mostly they are two days per week, only tools.

[@jeffbrown1829]

Got one a week ago and works great so far. For a hundred bucks it was worth the risk and I genuinely don’t care if it’s stolen

[@joeking433]

I ALWAYS buy from Home Depot if the price is comparable! Half the name brand stuff on Amazon is fake! I don't think tools are necessarily counterfeited as often as blades, bits, batteries, etc. Like some people said the tools on Amazon are probably stolen.

[@Capt.Morgan]

They are made in the same factory just sold in bulk to Amazon

[@eggmanfryer]

I could be a very good fake. One time I came home from work and somebody had stolen literally everything from my home and replaced them with fakes. I called the police and the police couldn't even tell the difference.

[@RealPatrickBateman1]

That never happened

[@sambarnhill7406]

I'ma call bullshit too

[@Rick_Dunaway]

I offer the following information based my experience both buying and selling tools Amazon as well as sending them in for service covered under warranty. I have a battery on the bench now that will be boxed up and shipped to them on Monday. So YES, They still have a warranty that begins on the day that the tool was produced. The date code is is part of the tools serial number. Home depot does not have or keep any record of the tools serial number and who it was sold to. And the barcode is added to the box by amazon at whichever fulfillment center the 3rd party sellers has been instructed to send it to.

[@aaroncardenas9062]

Its real. One was bought at Home Depot, the other was stolen at a home depot and sold on Amazon 🤙🏼

[@VideoArchiveGuy]

You have zero proof of that. I've seen Ace Hardware, an authorized Milwaukee dealer, clearance Milwaukee items for half the price Home Depot wanted. 🤷‍♂

[@norcoauctions]

you said this twice that there was 2 ounce difference but they were .2 ounce. that is a huge difference in what really is the difference is. Thank you for sharing. I would like to see how this could EVER get Milwaukees approval. People on ebay sell the same way too. Huge price difference

[@jgrant1162]

Hi, thanks for this interesting video. Surely the easiest way to check if it is a fake, is to try and register it for warranty. If it was real the only reason Milwaukee would fail to register it would be if it was a grey import.

[@MarcucciLeising]

For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.

[@jordan116327]

Home Depot has a special going on right now. Buy 2 batteries and a charger for $199 and get a free tool. Picked up one of them angle grinders and so far it works great.

[@1234GOPRO]

You can hear the gear slop in the Amazon one. And it sounds tight and right in the HD. May not mean much the first 20hrs. But they way things work is that failures happen in the most of inconvenient times of need.

[@andre1987eph]

I noticed a sound difference too.

[@josephdewuhan]

I would say they are the same. It costs more to build a new production line to produce the counterfeit than the benefits they got from them. I suspect the factory people that got the contract to produce the official ones, used the same production line to produce these unauthorized products.

[@MyGarageWorkshop]

Based on HDs online inventory numbers vs what is actually on hand in the stores they may be going out of the back door instead of the front.

[@TimeRestored]

Grey market.. not counterfeit.. we had the same deal with cameras for years. The tool was built to be sold overseas, not the us market. They get imported into the US and sold at a steep discount without any warranty or support. Technically its illegal or was for the cameras. Like I said, that was some years ago.

[@dejock70]

The difference in $$ is for the warranty. That sh@t ain’t free.

[@SuperDrumwolf]

I buy all of my Milwaukee tools (39 and counting) through amazon, have sent in over 12 tools, chargers, batteries to them for repair or replace WITH the amazon receipt, I've never had an issue with warranty (E-TOOL) repair service rejecting one for a fake tool.

[@andre1987eph]

That’s a high rate of returns unless you use them professionally

[@sixtyfiveford]

Amazon is the same as eBay it's just private sellers. All the tools are going to be shoplifted. However, there is a warranty. I have warrantied plenty of Milwaukee stuff. They simply go by the serial number on the tool.

[@romandremov1480]

0.2oz is like nickel weight, about 5 grams. Could be grease variation on the gears. HD charges extra for obvious reasons - b&m store, you can get it in a hurry, return it there etc. plus they constantly run free tool promos.

[@stephengirling7859]

I bought a pair of Hitec boots for £110. Within 9 months the sole came apart. I then bought an identical pair which were a Chinese rip off for £42 and they are still good after nearly 3 years. Go figure!

[@litewavve]

Milwaukee’s 5 year warranty is from the purchase date (from a valid retailer) or from the date code on the tool if you don’t have a proof of purchase from a valid/approved retailer. I’ve had warranty repairs under both circumstances.

[@UserFormelyKnownAs_hjkh]

The difference in serial number can be attributed to differing styles of laser jet printers on the manufacturing lines. I work in manufacturing and repair these printers often. These companies will hold onto older units for as long as possible, which may have a different font but be coming right off the same manufacturing floor.

[@badtolz2122]

Scan UPC with phone. You don't need the number.

[@lemmy37]

I got an impact wrench on Amazon for 50 bucks cheaper than Home Depot. It was originally $20 cheaper so I added it to my cart than moved to save for later, a week and half later it dropped another $30. I bought it , registered it online and it’s legit. I’m happy.

[@jlj547]

I was at a place that sells overstock stuff and they had a 1/2 Milwaukee impact that looks exactly like mine, expect for one glaring difference, the one I have you can change modes, the one at the place I went to does not have that option. And to top it off it was only like $40 different from OG price.

[@jeffwhitney3369]

they make hundreds of tools, was it just a different model with different options probably?

[@redneckweekly]

If you put the serial no in on the milwaukee website does it show manufacturer date?

[@kells18]

They’re most likely sold insurance claims, from rejected damaged pallets. Working receiving for 15 years I’ve learned a few things talking to shippers.

[@andre1987eph]

“Rejected damaged pallets” means the pallets consist almost entirely of rejected/damaged/returned items?

[@kells18]

@@andre1987eph No

[@kells18]

@@andre1987eph I’ve rejected hundreds off pallets over my career. Everything was new goods. If I seen 25% of the pallet was wet or crushed, I rejected it. A pallet of waterpiks, iRobots, Brevilles etc. The majority is in good selling condition. Unless it was something real good I’ll make the driver wait. Go through it get a freight claim. Over a specified $ amount the delivery company wants it back. Under that amount we keep and let the employees purchase for about 10cent on the dollar.

[@jmackinjersey1]

Also, when you ordered it, did you check to see if the seller had more of the same tool or even more Milwaukee tools to be sold?

[@hardlyb]

I don't like buying power tools at Amazon, because I either know they're junk - such as Amazon Basics - or I have no idea where they come from. And for the tools I've bought, when I check I haven't seen much of a difference between HD and Amazon, so I guess I haven't found people selling stolen tools.

[@mw3designs]

Reading the title I got nervous…. I’ve bought a few cheaper discount Milwaukee tools, and I’m glad the outcome of uour video was to be authentic. 😅

[@davidperreault469]

It is real. I'm not sure if they still do this but Milwaukee used to sell unopened returns and overstock items on Amazon.

[@BrewCityRider]

I needed warranty work on my EBAY purchased M12 die grinder. Milwaukee fixed it under warranty no problem. Its based on the serial number, not the seller...at least thats been my experience.

[@LarryKapp1]

Yes within 5 years . I just had impact driver repaired at local repair shop. I had looked up on Milwaukee site how to read date from serial number. I was so happy I was within the 5 years so repair was free !

[@OldAncientGuy]

Will it depend on the tool stock today I was checking for milwaukee caulking gun and I found it at Amazon the cheapest one was $270 but at Home depot was $220 and you will find other tools vise versa so I think it depend on the tool stock.

[@jwalbrig]

I do not understand . Milwaukee sells to HD, Amazon, Walmart, etc. HD, Amazon, etc. purchase in bulk and negotiate their own purchase prices. If they pass any discounts to their customer is their choice. And yes, you can send in a warranty card (or online) and have coverage in any of those stores.

[@FinlayDaG33k]

Side-note for the UPC code at 1:50, use your phone (beforehand if you don't have a spare) to scan it. It'll very likely be the same though but who knows.

[@mariov00yahoocom]

Good information but for .2 oz it can be grease on the head part

[@ralphcelentano8563]

The Amazon one had a x written in crayon where you slide the battery on