Amazon's favorite $500 "Gaming" PC is a bad idea...

[@OzTalksHW]

I genuinely have been using Morning Brew the last 8 months and it's a great service. Completely free, easy to understand daily news. Check it out! cen.yt/mboztalks3 This video was delayed 2 weeks because I edit *very* slowly. I'm going to hopefully hire an editor by the new year so I can get videos out faster. Otherwise, hope you enjoy the video and you found it useful. And yeah, there's an oopsie at 6:21 haha at least you get to see my editing notes first hand

[@grantpaterson1016]

I bought a 'Like New' Delonghi coffee machine from Amazon UK...when it arrived it was pouring water all over the electrics from a hole in the boiler...I told them it was potentially life threatening due to electrocution. They told me it had been tested and was scrapped.......It turned up at a friends house two weeks later as 'Like New'...it still had the same life threatening fault. F Amazon, they are happy to kill people for money and lie about following even basic safety laws.

[@gamingnomad132]

Hello OZ I enjoy watching your tech videos and hope you get the recognition you deserve to make your channel great!

[@schucky-vk3sg]

Can This be compared to the 500$ ice build??

[@natejennings5884]

I wouldn't take issue with those specs EXCEPT the graphics card. A Nvidia 600 series? With only 1GB of VRAM? In a $500 rig? Deal breaker.

[@lytatroan]

as much as i hate sponsors at least you made it a section, something many people don't do

[@nerdonabudget]

Bruh a i5 2400 and GTX 650 😱 the only good thing about these builds are the entertaining videos that can be made from them like this one 😂

[@memenation5105]

I have a PC with a Quadro p400, and it's not a good card, but it's still better than this.

[@buildahpeec2461]

That’s facts I always suggest searching for pc flippers if not interested in building a pc

[@noleftturnunstoned]

What!? no way! That would be a basic pc 10 years ago.

[@22oreos]

I know someone on the Internet who supposedly dropped two grand on a setup with a 600-series GPU, some i5 from 2011 or 2012, and a 240Hz monitor that the GPU can't even utilize. Then they got the HyperX QuadCast S mic etc lmfao

[@filenotfound__3871]

Still better than my bullooser fx 6300

[@Ironman666]

This man is my hero. Out here keeping hope alive for the aspiring PC gamer. Great work sir.

[@lola-to9om]

what an aspiring pc game? 🤡

[@froggamonke1832]

big tip: Build your own PC even if it costs 10% more

[@lola-to9om]

@@froggamonke1832 yeah i build my own pc just like his AMD apu and bought graphic card later and it's better than any other budget pre builds

[@NLGogeta]

@@lola-to9omhe said gamer not game goofy 💀

[@MichaeltheORIGINAL1]

It just baffles me, I can not process this is being sold today. Back in very late 2012 when I was in my teens my mom bought me a Medion Gaming PC for 500 Euros with the same gtx650 1GB and an i5. That was almost exactly 10 years ago. That they sell this 10-year-old outdated hardware for the same price nowadays is completely insane to me, lol.

[@DJJD669]

I had this exact PC. It worked well for me for what I needed it for. Then my friends accidentally blew out the power in the place I was staying and the power supply went out and took everything with it. I was sad to see it go, but I plan on building my own PC at a higher price point for better results while gaming and multitasking

[@davidparker.2227]

Please buy parts and assemble on your own. It's your money. I don't want you to waste your own money on shit that has tons of loose connections, is cable managed like an eagles nest and has crappy components. Be smart.

[@cyroz2]

you’re the goat man i’ve been using a lenovo m82 with a 1650 super and a ssd for almost a year now because of you and i couldn’t be happier. you’re a literal genius god bless you man. :)

[@OzTalksHW]

Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoy the system!

[@patty109109]

When you made this video that cpu was ELEVEN years old. These gaming PCs are heartbreaking because I am sure so many parents ruin xmas and birthdays buying them, not knowing better. If you go to Best Buy, or even Costco, and just buy something odd the shelf at least it will be modern and very usable. Good vid, I know you just bought to review :)

[@Daniel-wn3hd]

Stumbled across your channel when I was doing research for a recent build and dug your vibe. Then I’m watching this video and see the GT sweatshirt? You’re my new favorite.

[@jorocker7229]

The audio quality in this video is absolutely amazing!!! I love the effort you're putting in to these videos!!

[@24tommyst]

I bought a Newegg "gaming PC" for $1000 thinking I was so galaxy brained. It came with a bad GPU. Sent it back. They sent it back with a bad CPU. Sent it back again (this involves packing the beast back up and carrying the giant box to UPS....total hassle). Built my own PC. Works perfectly. Never again will I buy a "gaming pc" from one of these big retailers.

[@costi2596]

I built a 500$ computer for a close friend, i3 9100f, 12gb of ram, 640 gb ssd i know its a weird capacity but its good, and rx 580 4gb, some parts are new, some are used, but that thing flyes!

[@bananajoeisthename9677]

i respect the song back pocket by vulfeeckat 8:39 great band btw

[@matthewsmith22]

It makes me sad that pc building on a budget is nigh on impossible at the moment. Remember when you could go grab an athlon 750k and an HD 7870 and fire up bioshock infinite at 1080p and laugh heartily at the xbox 360 players, then the r9 range came out even stronger with that unlocked pentium (was it a g3528 or something). 10 years on and we're still chasing 1080p at a similar price point 😭. honestly, I'd say if anyone wanted to get into gaming get a series s and a t450s for school work.

[@OzTalksHW]

I remember when I sold off my first gaming PC to get some money and was running a core 2 duo desktop my uncle gave + a GT 440. Man, it was painful and saving up took forever...but building my next PC (athlon 860K + radeon 7970) was SO sweet. First time I tried overclocking, watercooling, and eventually ITX. Loved that machine despite its price and age. Thanks for reminding me 😭 Honestly, your last point about the Series S + T450S seems like a great video concept. maybe ill give it a shot

[@matthewsmith22]

@@OzTalksHW thanks for the reply oz 😊 Do you think without that positive experience you would be into tech in the same way now? There must be a lot of people that are turned away by the prohibitive expense that might have eventually contributed to the tech world! I remember building a computer in the 90s from parts my school was going to throw out but got put off by how expensive gaming would be on a pc back then even. I have a t450s that I use for work, I chucked in a new WiFi card capable of 5ghz and Bluetooth and an ssd. It works great honestly, keeps up with my relatively light work load (I'm a teacher, so lesson planning and lots of spreadsheets is my focus). As a bonus it keeps up with project xcloud on gamepass. My desktop is a ryzen 5 3600 with an rtx 2070 super, honestly think it'll be my last unless the market alters where pc gaming is competitive again

[@they2kguy822]

Luckily, Valve is the savior

[@nepp-]

After a long stressful day at school, watching one of these videos helps me calm down because 1: His voice is calming 2: It’s about pc’s

[@patrickmcgovern4004]

I've got a build in my garage I'm getting ready to list that has an i7-3770, 16gb of ddr3 1600 ram, an asus gtx 970 4gb, 240gb ssd boot drive, 1tb hdd, a 600w evga psu, 24 inch 1080p 60hz monitor, a set of 2.1 speakers with a sub, keyboard, mouse and cables that I'll probably sell for 400-450. The boot drive and power supply are always brand new in these builds I sell to make sure they're reliable. I like to think that's a much better deal and will certainly perform a lot better than that trash. That seller should be ashamed of him/herself.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 yes thats a fair price, i payed 500 for a cpu mb ram videocard combo, similar to urs 4790k

[@Nostradhomas]

You literally listed my build of 2017-2021

[@Dryears]

Dude thank u I was considering Buying this

[@boredcompsciguy]

If you're seeking the highest possible performance out of an igpu, the money you saved on the gpu should be spent on the best possible memory. High frequencies and lower timing will help minimize the effects of the igpu needing to share that dual channel bandwidth with the cpu.

[@manofmidway8290]

But pay close attention, no harm in getting the best for your money especially for a near future upgrade or prices being better. But the cache in your CPU has a max mhz that maybe lower than the Ram. For instance in my case I bought a kit of 16GB 3200mhz stock. But my Ryzen 5 Pro 2400GE has a max frequency of 2933 mhz and as such wouldn’t post properly. If you have a problem try looking up your CPU specs and look for max frequency supported. Go into your bios set your Ram to the DOCP settings then just down scale (or upscale) the mhz to the max your CPU supports. Good luck to all of you and may the gaming gods bless you with a GPU near MSRP.

[@epicbigmoney2031]

thanks OzTalks for the calming videos again this year I suffer with anxiety also. There's nothing more calming then watching you're video's Happy New year

[@PaulSman123]

I remember gaming on an I5-2400 only I had a 660TI. was actually really solid for the time period.

[@K-TheLetter]

i remember playing with I5 3470 with integrated graphics

[@kennethhosler9845]

Lol I still have my 660ti in my closet

[@gmdking]

I had an i5 2400 without a gpu. It was not good.

[@earnistse4899]

The best way to go right now is the series s! For 300 bucks you pretty much get a 6500xt and 3700x. I’ve given up on getting a pc right now and I’m really impressed with the performance of the s. It’s also readily available. The value here is undeniable

[@SoonerDan77]

A little bit of research could either save you a lot of money on a low spec pc or get you a lotmore performance for your dollar. Buyer definitely needs to beware.

[@braziman18]

The problem is for a parent who wants to buy their kid a “gaming” pc the price sounds super enticing, especially with the holidays

[@OzTalksHW]

I wanted to add this at the end of the video but actually decided to cut it out. I kinda wish I didn't because I do think some of the onus is on the buyer - if you just search "GTX 650 " you can see the performance numbers and decide if it's worth it.

[@blergonos]

@@braziman18 if only parents understood that buying a cheap 'gaming' pc is a bad idea and they understood that it is a bit better too buy a pc that is actually worth it

[@Star_Spangled_Man_With_A_Plan]

Danggg that is a massive scratch! I’d be boxing that thing back up in a heartbeat lol

[@kapsxd]

One thing to note about the Microcenter PC is because the Ryzen cpu will last much longer, you can save up to get a respectable gpu

[@Blorkion64]

I found an old 12 year old laptop with an APU in it. The owner had put it away claiming there was a virus so I got it free and wiped it clean. Reinstalled windows with a USB drive and updated everything. I installed a SSD I got from a donor laptop and started working on the software. Its powerful enough to play games like battlefield 4 on medium settings at 30fps. Pretty sweet considering it was free and just took a little time. Might upgrade the ram but I'm not sure yet.

[@lynx9419]

I love your channel. You're honestly the best budget PC youtuber at the moment. Keep up the good work.

[@dylanlac765n6]

I’m honestly surprised it doesn’t have a gt710

[@bitelaserkhalif]

In India, it'll be paired with 710 instead had no idea why

[@darthmortem585]

@@bitelaserkhalif it was the most popular GPU for a hot while

[@TiredHusbando]

Your videos are really a vibe. Thanks for the great content as always!

[@damien8540]

I'm surprised you didn't refer to one of your previous videos showing just how easy it could be to follow along and learn to build a pc. Your easy going attitude and soothing atmosphere is great for a nervous newbie to follow along.

[@93yotat100]

I got that pc for just over $400 back in 2019 when I was new to PCs and not even after 6 months of owning it it blue screened

[@chrislosada6701]

Didnt even knew Rawayana let creators use their music for youtube videos! Thats sick. Love the song at 4:00

[@jonytwobyfour4]

I personally sell PC's like this all the time. This is a great video to recommend buyers who are sceptical about my building process and why I use the parts I use. Great video!

[@radradR0bot]

I bought an I5-2400 on ebay for $8 last week

[@itsdeonlol]

Ozi is always the best when it comes to saving money on a PC!!!

[@dogecode386]

5:38 Considering even the sketchy wifi adapter got 3x my internet speed on a good day, I’d call it more than serviceable lol

[@KomradeMikhail]

This would make a great WindowsXP retro gaming box... for about $160. Downgrade the OS. Always razor cut _away_ from your fingers.

[@aretonsenner6664]

Dude no shit I almost died because I poked myself in the wrist with a razor while cutting a box open. 4 trips to the hospital 2 blood transfusions and a plastic surgery all in one day to repair my artery.

[@renegade_patriot]

@@aretonsenner6664 just keep a tourniquet handy you'll be good.

[@baccusx13]

It is a sign: I finished setting up a salvaged parts PC for my sister and I get to see this video as a reward. :)

[@the_averagekyle]

As someone who's still really new to PC building, this is easily the most helpful video I've watched out of all the research I've done lol. I'll be avoiding a ton of potential mistakes now haha

[@zacktessean7921]

I just got back into pc gaming and hearing your voice for the first time in a year just made me happy 😁

[@Danimations_]

I’m going to be honest, when I was new to pc gaming, I was going to get this pc but luckily more research was done and a long while later I built my own pc. Looking back I see how bad this pc really was.

[@BlankaCentral]

@Step In Fetch Itthis was was even less necessary than his cliche, congrats

[@BlankaCentral]

@Step In Fetch It im going ot be honest, i feel like your going thru some crap, if u need anyone to talk to...reach out

[@igkaos1111]

Just subbed been on a binge since I've had a pc with no graphics card(paper weight) it gives me joy to watch videos with working pc's

[@jowsey.mp4]

You already know it's a good day when Ozi uploads. Your videos always makes me happy. Keep it up man!

[@ismaelalvarez8661]

Npc

[@jowsey.mp4]

@@ismaelalvarez8661 I was just trying to be nice lol

[@scrunts666]

He could be reading out the ingredients on the back of a packet of biscuits and I would listen because his voice just calms me down so much :D

[@james-dt4ei]

I’ve been wanting a gaming pc for yrs . Man your so lucky to be able to have all these review all these. I would be happy with this pc I just want to game play cod battlefield etc. yes I have a job people but I have bills kids I had a really bad medical condition and was put in an induced coma for over 7 months. Medical bills are so expansive. Ty for everything u do everything u show us tell us . I appreciate everything and hopefully one day I will have a gaming pc

[@painexotic3757]

you should start saving up if you can. I'm sure you can set aside $50/month to go towards it, especially on payment plans. It took me one year to finally get a gaming pc lol.

[@james-dt4ei]

@@painexotic3757 yes that’s what I plan on trying to do. My medical bills are over 200 grand plus mortgage kids. Ty for the advice I’m definitely going to save up for one. I just don’t know where to begin. Ty

[@colopear]

Welcome back!

[@ugh.idontwanna]

I don't know, 2400 + GTX 650 seems like a pretty amazing combo... for Windows XP

[@ElectricBlakeGames]

I remember windows XP, a 2400 would have been way better than my Celeron D

[@DentSideDee71]

Window xp days only the OG remember

[@zingythelemon7949]

Your voice is so soothing and calm, I never buy pre-built pcs or laptops I only build them.

[@jaydenford1515]

One thing I do like from this is the comparison between old and new hardware. Manufacturers may have some shady practices nowadays regarding GPUs, but the fact that a new ryzen cpu can outperform a dedicated GPU (albeit a really "bad" one) is pretty cool. Hopefully APUs become better.

[@panda3077]

ryzen 5 5600g would beat even a gt1030 apus are already awesome

[@amogusamogus8490]

@@panda3077 the 6700g leaks show 1050ti performance in an apu

[@Basilisk_Eternal]

@@amogusamogus8490 that sounds amazing for a cpu holy shit! Got a link? i gotta see it!

[@TGONTOP]

Lmao bro flaming that gaming computer righteously 🤣🤣

[@tomuxs965]

Hey Oz, are you planning to make some videos on eGPU's or other more basic methods on trying to connect a desktop card to a laptop? I've got myself a pretty outdated laptop (which runs fine for my needs), yet I can forget about playing new AAA games even on low settings. However, I've got a spare desktop GPU that I got from a friend which is a decent improvement from the original setup, but while I would like to make this as cheap as possible - I am not sure if this idea is worth the hassle in the end as I've seen various opinions on it going from "love it" to "hate it". What are your thoughts on it?

[@Garrettdx1988]

I’m so glad I came across this channel. This channel and Dawid’s are easily two of the best computer channels.

[@ummWaves]

when your hard drive is worth more than your cpu...

[@itsapinecone7280]

Probably the best thing you can do is just look at second hand marketplaces and wait for the right deal. I got a r5 1600 gtx 1650 super system for 400 dollars in november 2021, so bellow msrp in a chip shortage. Just wait and find the right deal

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

This is the kind of PC you get from your uncle, who was really into WoW or something around 10 years ago, when he's cleaning out the garage.

[@namikaze.minato]

most PC content creators wouldve made a separate video for the microcentre build part to make an extra video out of it. good on you man. youre one of the good ones

[@ramshacks9493]

I think Amazon should sell that pc for $200, if your gonna spend $500 that's should include a gtx 1060 or 1650, and a good cpu, or you can rent to buy a pre-built pc from somewhere locally

1650 in a prebuilt for 500? I bet gtx 1060 costs 500-700

[@FlatHeadP]

Bro I love the video. But even more. There outro music is Dang! My man. You seem like such a dope guy. Keep it up. Just got a new subscriber

[@doublexdojo]

First

[@OzTalksHW]

Blocked

[@filenotfound__3871]

@@OzTalksHW thank you for fighting against this mess

[@Demonanimator]

I can not agree more. Just build a PC if you are new to it. I started PC building back in 2020 (A terrible start) but I was able to save up, learn and get everything that I have now. You become more familiar with your hardware, making it easier to resolve any issues you ever encounter. I knew buying anything preassembled was a bad deal due to issues a seller usually won't list.

[@greatvegetables]

Compared to my Dell Inspiron desktop computer that struggles to run Sonic Adventure 2 and probably has 83 million different types of malware on it, this is a real upgrade

[@titanjake8640]

Your channel is very very cool! As a seasoned builder (since windows 3.11 and dos 3.xx) I appreciate your frustrations. These days builds are more gooder versus the issues I had then. We had 32 3.5 floppies to install an OS (Windows or OS / warp). Lol. I digress. Keep up good work

[@pizzangels1]

U are a hero! I was just bout to buy one of these pre builds to start streaming. u randomly pop up in my recommendations god was looking out fr! Now imma try build my own . Great video!

[@HasteHub]

Always search a review before you buy

[@cringekid69]

I really like yours videos, I dont need a pc just like to watch and get free tips. Thx man keep it up!

[@lvc394]

Glad to see you back on the TUBE

[@spxder3x]

i bought a 430 dollar gaming pc and it runs 180 Fps on med settings got it off facebook market place works great i dont reccomend buying amazon for something like a Pc

[@CaidicusProductions]

You've got some fantastic editing, brotherman.

[@OPTERON_PRIME]

Thank you Oz RIP Frys Electronics... that was our closest thing to Micro Center in California....

[@anthonymehran9429]

I feel so bad for anyone who buys these PCs. If you want an affordable prebuilt, there is a $530 system on Build Pro PC with a Ryzen 5 3400g and 8GB of ram. With a budget under $600 you should be able to get a decent APU Ryzen 5 system with a good upgrade path, not this trash.

[@40kq]

I remember when I was young as hell and I didn't know anything about computers so I went to amazon and I'd be looking at computer cases thinking they're super cheap gaming computers. 😂

[@lastduet4728]

Hi, just dropping by to leave a comment saying that I love your videos as well as the format of them. Keep up the good work!.

[@christiansantamaria7233]

Thanks man saving people money and stress honestly stuff like this should be removed from amazon no one deserves to waist $500 on garbage like this

[@_Paul_N]

These pre-built computers inspired me to start my own building journey lol. Most newer games are too demanding for the outdated specs that these Amazon/EBay pre-built pcs are overcharging people for lol. For $600 I don’t want to play Elden Ring at 33fps, which already feels awkward at 45-55 on the PS5 😅

[@WebbTech1]

Cool video man, thank you! I dig your channel...from a fellow PC enthusiast here in ATL!!

[@wiseass2149]

Dude I bought an HP pavilion gaming PC. It had an I5 10400F and GTX 1650. It only cost me like $480. Alacro is buggin

[@jd3330]

What sucks is that without any of the shortages, someone could’ve easily built a $500-600 system with a RX470 and have way more performance than that MicroCenter build. In the reality of things today though, that $500 is well spent with the Micro Center build even beyond just the gaming. Great video!

[@davidhartenstine190]

Where is a 470 at that price range

[@jd3330]

@@davidhartenstine190 Without the shortages, they were going for $150. Back then is what I meant lol Nowadays, even 470s are being sold at $300

[@scidja8567]

@@davidhartenstine190 i can literally pick a rx 570 4gb right now for 130 euro

[@davidhartenstine190]

@@scidja8567 Sure but its used and less powerful than a 1060. Still not a bad deal given the shortage. If you game on 1080 or less at low settings. I already payed for mine, I game for free. If you can mine with it you can to!

[@scidja8567]

@@davidhartenstine190 yeah i got a 1060 for 100 euro its slightly better than 570 but only in certain games

[@Lmpy]

God, it's so satisfying to see a better PC be built for comparison, instead of just saying: "It's bad, and don't buy". That way consumers see that there are alternatives rather than just trusting word of mouth.

[@KennyCapazzi]

Shame on youtube for taking it this long for your videos to pop up... instant subscriber. Great stuff.

[@411sponge72]

First video I've seen of yours and I'm really impressed!!

[@cstone9183]

So glad to see you making videos again ! 😁

[@curtisg8399]

having two of him in the same shot trips me out lmao

[@StarcrossTV]

Yoooo Vantage fan! I got that song on my phone! I was so happy to hear it in this video!

[@Below_Mediocre]

"I know not everyone has a microcenter near them" BROTHER THERE ISN'T A MICROCENTER IN MY WHOLE ASS CONTINENT

[@hogg1media627]

You have the best channel bro! you dont just talk about it, you actually prove it. For ignorant beginners like me, is perfect because we just need that extra KNOW. lol i want to build a video editing PC without worry of studders, glitches, etc. i want a smooth sailing experience. i just have NO CLUE whats compatable to what. Graph Cards, Motherboards, Processors, ETC,ETC, so i need these videos! thank you

[@ajlainez1944]

Bro you sparked my passion for computers, Ima build your 500$ (for myself) set up you made a few months back, as well as the 300$ one for my twin brothers as a gift just because. They can obviously upgrade over time to something new and I personally am broke and just want something to play postal 2 and do my homework on.

[@jamessmith6797]

I love how Count What You Have Now is playing during Laugh at my pain XD good song though

[@Jerudirty]

This is a great video I'm trying to get into PC gaming and your one of the most helpful and informative channels I've seen on KZbin keep up the great work

[@pharos7805]

This makes Dell look like a reasonable option. I didnt think people actually bought PCs from Amazon though. If you want a pre-built go for corsair, nzxt or maingear

[@garfield5647]

I got a pc from cyber power and its pretty solid got it for 899$ and now its worth 1300$ has a 8gb xfx rx 580 and a ryzen 3700x

[@jacejoshy3215]

favorite tech youtuber, always good vibes

[@N3X_]

I was actually going to get this PC until my dad did some research and got me a better computer I’m so glad that he did:)

[@lagod63]

This is the craziest finesse I’ve seen this year

[@GeetMadan]

I am amazed by your ability to come up with a $500 micro center PC in this market. Thanks for the video man

[@michalselinger9126]

OZ videos are great. Not that I am paying that much attention to the content. I am sure there are plenty of people that needs guidance on the other side of thousands of bucks for PC. But I just relax listening to his calming voice and that background music :D Good job mate.

[@auroralofirecords7335]

So many people who look for gaming pc's have no idea what the specs mean...they get taken advantage of all the time. Not to mention the technical issues

[@mm8436]

Glad to see you dropping videos

[@HueyAT5]

Lovely jubbly. Thank you. Great advice as always 👍

[@londalecarter3482]

Im at the part where you just showed the better build. Your CPU's are always Dope!!!

[@kryptic9697]

got the same one about a year ago and when i knew nothing about computers. One year later ive swapped the motherboard with a tomohawk z490, cpu with an i5-10400f, and a gtx 1060 3gb. its not the best, but it gets the job done.

[@pathfinderproject9381]

I love how you put Futurefunk in it. Thanks!

[@Sandyssb]

holy shit i love the vulfpeck going on in the background

[@alfie_acg8260]

what wifi adapter did you use in your video and how would u set it up? also what wifi adapter should i use? for under about £30 for my gaming laptop with a upload speed of 5 mb.

[@johngillians1027]

Thank you . Was contemplating going in that direction as a game pc noob.