AMCA OLEY VINTAGE BIKE NATIONAL MEET 2023

Follow Dave again as he rummages through the AMCA annual motorcycle swap meet in Oley Pennsylvania April 27-29, 2023
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[@charleswulff3732]

Hi Dave. As you know I watch all of your KZbin videos. I thank you for posting them.

[@bullpencycles]

Thanks Charles!

[@joekelly9555]

Thanks for walk-around I missed this year.

[@jeffreyness9741]

I have some surgeries and I haven't been to a swap meet in awhile it's so so so good to watch this thank you thank you thanks

[@bullpencycles]

You are so welcome! Get well soon!

[@stude1953]

Thanks for sharing Dave for us that couldn't make it there.

[@oldkokitsum4022]

Thanks for the show. Even with a checkbook I wouldn't go...how times have changed.

[@kennethwise7108]

Thanks for sharing, I'm from Carlisle and the rain probably ruined the event this year. Glad to see early footage of the event

[@bullpencycles]

Yes. I have video from Friday too. I'll post it later - but the rain did definitely cause folks to leave early

[@AustinD1993]

Great Video! In 1080p its so clear it feels like being there! 28:18 what a beauty 1931 Indian!

[@bullpencycles]

Thank you! Its just a gopro, but it works.

[@user-ne8hv2gc1h]

How's nice if it's within our community ❤

[@lesjones7617]

I just love Bikes!

[@bullpencycles]

Me too!

[@brucecooper7905]

Thank you!

[@atcjoe1600]

Thanks for the tour. I’m an AMCA member and it’s nice to see the meets with out actually going. ( too far away )

[@bullpencycles]

Thank you for watching!

[@ringo196]

A J.A.P on methanol 💥

[@alleyoop1234]

Incredible vintage m/c swapmeets down there! Where I live here in Canada they are few & far between. But I am on my way to a vintage car swapmeet tomorrow & I'm also bringing lots of vintage motorcycle parts & a 69 Triumph Trident chopper to sell 😉

[@bullpencycles]

Where in Canada? That's a big country

[@BuzzLOLOL]

I clicked on here to see if "Amca Oley" was a brand of old motorcycles I wasn't familiar with...

[@kdsowen2882]

You want to try NZ where I live , almost nothing down here . Been looking for a year for a seat and sidecovers for my XS-2 yamaha 650 Dave

[@alleyoop1234]

@@bullpencycles I live in south eastern British Columbia. Trail, BC

[@jeffkowalczyk4089]

thanks for the post. didn't make it this year.

[@jackstauffer413]

Nice video Dave. The first bike looking for parts with the gas headlight is a very rare one year only 1916 Indian Featherweight 2 stroker.

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, I really dont know my bikes that old! I completely missed it was a two stroke

[@bryanandrew7729]

I'm from newzealand I miss swap meets we don't have them here much exery body selling on the Internet I sure would love to go to a swap meet over there

[@bullpencycles]

I send a lot of stuff to the former National Motorcycle Museum in New Zealand.

[@johnhenke6475]

31:40. I bought a Rudge bicycle from a guy when I lived in Texas. He had brought it home from England. The headlight was on the right side of the forks for riding down the left side of the road. It was a cool bike.

[@abcanimal]

Dave It was great to meet you at the show. If you're interested in that CB900 DOHC let me know. By the way, that was an ATC70, not a 90. I used to have one when I was a kid.

[@bullpencycles]

Hi again. Hoping the CB and RMC footage turned out for the sequel video, part 2

[@fearsomename4517]

Dave I really enjoyed looking around Oley. I've been there many times. I'm gonna try to make Wauseon. Vintage motorcycles rule!

[@bullpencycles]

Thank you. I probably wont make Wauseon this year, but I am going to try and make Mid-Ohio

[@erickriebel4366]

Nice video thanks again I appreciate your hard work that you do thank you❤ I had a Kawasaki 500 Triple back in high school in 1970 my request to you is start featuring that when you see them put them on your videos and exactly what people are asking for those bikes I think they're worth three grand if they run good and they're in rough shape and I think they're worth about seven Grand if they're in excellent condition but I'm hearing people think they were made out of solid gold and there are a lot of them out there floating around

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, I dont know when or if the bubble will ever end!

[@erickriebel4366]

@@bullpencycles understood they'll come down at some point but you run across all kinds of stuff I really like what you did over there at that plan B but that doesn't look like a retail place and they had mostly the older dirt bikes but every once in a while you run across something and you do a good job and you get out there and you see what's out there and you know what's going on and I think of your videos are better than anybody else's and what I like is you move quickly don't be wasting a lot of time with small talk and screwing around thanks again great job

[@patconway6999]

I envy you and appreciate you at the same time. Thanks for the share. I didn't get to go. If you're going through WV you're welcome to buy a couple of my bikes. Appreciate ya.

[@garybarker9934]

Great video, when you came across the Alley Cats sticker brought back old memories! RIP Frank

[@bullpencycles]

Yes. I love seeing those old stickers

[@inquisitivemind2465]

I love places like this, you can spend a couple of years looking for a specific part, go to a bike meet and find the exact part in abundance there.

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, but its always after you just sold the bike, seems like!

[@inquisitivemind2465]

@@bullpencycles or you just bought one for 5 times the price.

[@stevenlangdon-griffiths293]

An enthralling video. Very rich in product knowledge and so very interesting too. It was as if I was with you looking at the various exhibits. Great video indeed.

[@bullpencycles]

Thank you so much for the kind words

[@stevenlangdon-griffiths293]

@@bullpencycles you’re alright mate. I’ve subscribed to your channel as I enjoy your videos a lot.

[@MrDjh66]

Loved it on Friday

[@bullpencycles]

I have some Friday footage I'll be posting in a few days

[@MrDjh66]

Ok can’t wait

[@martincvitkovich724]

In 1969 I bought a 64 650 Thunderbolt A65 ;the frame was A50 and that was typical during those years of early Units

[@bullpencycles]

Yup!

[@MrCaptpike]

The best. Oley!

[@bullpencycles]

Its a good one! Yes.

[@CrustyCycle9317]

Really like your channel. Trying to build a channel with similar content in the Pacific Northwest. Sharp Jagged Cycle

[@MarcinEasyRider]

😀👍🇺🇸

[@squarefour1]

Dave that was a fantastic video. I did not see 1 Ariel out there, to bad. I have a 57 and a 58 Squarefour as well as a 39 Ariel 500 single. I love the old bikes.

[@bullpencycles]

Thank you. I guess you're right. I did not see an Ariel there. I'll try to dig out mine from the back. I've got a 59 Red Hunter. I've been meaning to start it

[@daveco1270]

Thanks for walking us around. I was going to drive up there saturday from the DC area, but the weather (and some other things) kept me from going. The weather looked good Thursday, how was it Saturday? 3 grand for that green Honda CB550 seems like a good deal. I wonder if it ran and had a title. I've seen that blue BSA on marketplace. It's a funky bike. Great price. I think the blue sparkly seat turns people off, but seats are easy to swap out. Someone out there will love that seat cause it's different.

[@bullpencycles]

I was there thursday and friday but I didn't make saturday period I figured it got rained out

[@robinfowler9477]

good to know VT reg is NFG in FL. i am in SC and SO many late model bikes for sale with no titles! its crazy.

[@ronsmith9228]

I was there today Friday thinking it was the first day. There was some nice stuff I missed or was sold, I would have bought the framed Syracuse Mile placard….

[@bullpencycles]

Yes, that was cool.

[@tricycleguy2657]

38:50 that guy is the host of the vjm meet

[@michaelkoxsolapov8523]

I buy everything®

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, I understand!

[@phil6506]

Golden flash has plunger rear not sprung hub , thanks for the tour

[@bullpencycles]

Yes.

[@kdsowen2882]

Where's all the Yammy XS stuff ! Very hard for parts (XS) in my part of the world , enjoyable/interesting vid Dave NZ

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, probably not at an AMCA meet - but should be plenty at Barber coming up soon.

[@zwastiunburzy3688]

Ron Jeremy? Is that you? Wondered where you got to!😂

[@RjSantage]

Now that I saw this video I know I would rather go to Davenport!

[@bullpencycles]

I have to get to Davenport. Have not been there in a long time. That used to be the big one

[@englishrob123]

fantastic videos, watched that magnesium frame vid and that's incredibly fun to watch.. always gives me a chuckle, sorry but in some way your face looks like Ron Jeremy.. in a good way

[@bullpencycles]

There must be some kind of mutiny planned.

[@markm781]

The Montgomery wards bike Is indeed called the 450SS, Which stands for 4 speed, 50CC

[@bullpencycles]

Oh, so it looks just like the 125 Cobra, buts its only 50cc? Are the bottom ends of each motor interchangeable. I did not know they made a 50cc version. I learn a lot from this channel. Thank you.

[@markm781]

The bottom end is the same (sort of) with the wards benelli moped, although the crank end is different for the moped clutch. The 125 is much larger.

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Excellent 👍 I never see Laverda bikes much.

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, and two of them!

[@kennethwise7108]

Looks like Matt Walkslers Knucklehead at the 13 minute mark

[@BuzzLOLOL]

Laverdas look like bigger Honda 305s... always wondered if they had the same explosive power... didn't know they were also sold rebadged...

[@oscarmontero138]

Ohh gat a shower today. Well done

[@MarcinEasyRider]

It’s amazing :) Do you have calendars swap meet in usa ?:)

[@bullpencycles]

www.cyclefish.com

[@MarcinEasyRider]

@@bullpencycles wow it’s awesome site . Thank you :)

[@MarcinEasyRider]

@@bullpencycles wow it’s awesome site . Thank you :)

[@deadunion8425]

new to vintage motorcycles and i was wondering what is the best website to find cool old bikes?

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, I dont really find them on the web. And anything good on Facebook is usually gone very quick. I think it gets easier once you decide on a specific genre, at least narrow it down to a particular make, type or era. i.e. Dual sport, 70s, 80s, Japanese, British, 2 stroke, street, Triumph, something,

[@441rider]

The New Hudson Veloped some call those and there are others from UK.

[@bullpencycles]

New Hudson was a new one on me!

[@stevepope5484]

Prices are important?

[@fuelhigh8573]

The enfield

[@maakamakana7007]

loved tour video as a biker of 55yrs...some good prices, some way over the top, and I dont no what the trouble with the dude was, but hey , uf you dont film how do we know about these meets

[@bullpencycles]

Sometimes it's me. I just don't know if one wants the be on camera. I'm learning to let the camera run.

[@ricardonunez5117]

good video Harley Yellow Harley blak many harley I don t see the prices, more one the prices please, thank you

[@bullpencycles]

Agreed. I'd like to see more phone numbers and prices so I can include them

[@Cpcsof1]

Great video as always Dave, but you flunked Moto Morini math class. half of 3.5 is 1.75, not 1.25 lol.

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, I guess I did say half a Morini. But it's Italian, so maybe the math worked out anyway.

[@stevepope5484]

73 please

[@jeffrygagnon5506]

Just for the record, Dave: @ 43:39 - That one's pronounced YA-vuh, not JOW-uh.

[@bullpencycles]

Yes, I guess. If we're Czech or German, it is. Is it Ha yah in Spain! Good point, though. Made me chuckle! Don't mean to offend! Thanks

[@1crazypj]

That was pretty interesting although I stopped going to swap-meets as I could usually find something I really wanted but didn't have the budget (which can be pretty depressing 😮‍💨. I'm not a Harley person since an early 90's tried to kill me , the hydraulic brakes were terrible, no feel, 'wooden' and probably a bad move test riding it after a Ducati 916 😅 (I was running a workshop back then) The Greeves should have had an Albion gearbox. Gold Flash is PLUNGER not sprung hub (I've got a 1952) They came with single or duplex primary drive, duplex was for sidecar use. It's also what is called semi-unit with gearbox bolted to rear of crankcase. I'm kinda the CB360 'expert' it's difficult to believe they have increased in price so much over the last 20 years. That one you showed was in pretty good shape with original exhausts which are usually rotted out internally

[@bullpencycles]

Tell me the difference between a sprung hub and a plunger. I pretty much thought they were mostly the same. I can learn something!

[@1crazypj]

@@bullpencycles Sprung hub was used by Triumph and had 'everything' (springs, guides, etc) inside the oversized rear hub. I've never worked on one but have seen the diagrams and apparently it's a pain to work on and never actually worked very well plus wore out pretty quick but didn't need a frame re-design I forget if they took a curved path or were straight up and down, haven't looked at instructions for about 40 years. Plunger suspension is much simpler to make and see how it works as it's external built into rear of frame. It has issues with chain tension (chain gets tighter at top of travel and is loose where you mostly use it) but assembly is much easier. Plunger also relies of the axle to keep things lined up, in the 70's, AMEN 'Savior' frames used guide blocks to help prevent wheel twisting quite so much but early BSA frames didn't use guides so handling could get 'interesting' if things were not tightened up/adjusted. It was still way better than a worn Triumph sprung hub though.

[@Ian-bq7gp]

The old rigid framed BSA A7 from 1949 were so beautiful and are as rare as hens teeth now but are in my opinion the most beautiful looking bike ever made. Well worth buying one if you find one

[@Ian-bq7gp]

I dont have the budget now. I sadly got married and got rid of a BSA A7 Rigid framed bike that was in very rough condition and a large journal crankshaft DA10 motor with single carb alloy head, firebird scrambler tank, BTH competition magneto, new high level exhaust, thick flange barrels, and other restored stuff, engine was polished and frame, petrol tank and oil tank and swinhg arm was sand blasted, filled and resprayed in two pack paint by myself. I did polishing, welding professionally and some precision engineering and painting but moved to Switzerland for 7 years when i got married and couldnt keep it. I still cry when i think of that. Its not the value but the time it took to find those rare BSA parts and the weeks of work i put into it. It was the first bike of over 250cc i bought at 20 years old and im 62 now. You could ride up to 250cc in the uk until 1983 as a learner but kids were buying 2 stroke yams, suzukis and kawasakis that could be tuned to do over 100mph but handled like shopping trolleys and didnt stop well on those awful drum and if you was lucky early disc brakes.

[@Ian-bq7gp]

Plunger is like a very short shock attached to the frane and the wheel spindle. Like the 1952 golden flash 650cc BSA. 1955 the swing arm and two rear shocks came.

[@Paulfarmer-en4vh]

The new hudson is an auto cycle made in birmingham england

[@Mercmad]

I had an almost identical one badged as a Malvern star made in Australia. As a kid I often saw them running about as really cheap transport.

[@bullpencycles]

New Hudson was a new one for me.

[@thorsten3558]

Too bad no HOREX parts but a nice video

[@bullpencycles]

Horex parts are tough in the USA

[@ringo196]

Real men ride speedway

[@bullpencycles]

I'd like to try that, if I was younger! Those bikes are cool

[@sixtycrown4713]

Somewhat interesting that so many items shown were already gone by Fri.

[@bullpencycles]

Yes. Every time I come that's the same lesson. They were setting up on Wednesday, but I did get some good footage Friday before the rain. That's coming in Part 2

[@jessemurdough3647]

wsp i saw you there my dad was selling stuff

[@bullpencycles]

I hope it was good!

[@jessemurdough3647]

@@bullpencycles ya i love going we go every year u might know my dad his name is Jim Murdough

[@stevepope5484]

Was the black electra glide 13?

[@bullpencycles]

Can you give me a timestamp?

[@stevepope5484]

Thanks

[@caesarillion]

Price on the Thor? Thanks, Paul

[@bullpencycles]

Not sure. It wasn't mine. I try to read prices when they are posted. I think he said he'd be a Wauseon.

[@stephencroft6481]

Wasn't the 500 twin carb beeza called the cyclone?

[@bullpencycles]

Good call. I forgot about the cyclone. But I think that was a racer with up pipes and no lights. Could have a cyclone head maybe or it's something else. Now you have me wondering

[@stephencroft6481]

@@bullpencycles interesting videos keep em comin

[@Colin399]

You sure do know your bikes

[@bullpencycles]

I make some mistakes

[@altafali1559]

Please send me some old 50 birtish motorcycles bsa triumph thunderbird or matchless I really appreciate and also let me know any up coming events I really appreciate thanks all the info

[@jamesgibson5876]

Is this Donnie bakers brother ?

[@bullpencycles]

dunno

[@stevekwall925]

Hi Dave are you going there today ?

[@bullpencycles]

Yes. But I'm just heading out. I'm parked at the RMC

[@stevekwall925]

@@bullpencycles I was going to go but the rain scared me away .Were there alot of venders leaving ?

[@bullpencycles]

@@stevekwall925 Yes. I filmed Friday but many of the vendors left. I think I have enough footage for part II. Give me a bit

[@stevekwall925]

@@bullpencycles Ha Dave if your still there Is it worth me driving 1.5 hrs today anything going on ?

[@bullpencycles]

Since this got rained out, you might consider the Central Jersey AMCA show this year on May 21. I think I was there a few years back. Its a one day deal though. www.cjamca.org/calendar.cgi

[@johnnycrash3270]

52 NIMBUS 🤔?

[@bullpencycles]

Dunno. I'm not up on my Nimbuses! LOL

[@notwocdivad]

I believe the Cotton engine was called the TELSTAR ? If you don't like Harley stay away!!!

[@bullpencycles]

Might you be thinking of the Villiers Starmaker engine? I think that was the name that was evading me then.

[@notwocdivad]

Nope, The Cotton TELSTAR was a 247cc enging introduced in 1962 for a new road racing bike from Cotton In 67 another engine called the Grrenadier was fitted to keep them Competetive with the Greeves Silversone racers. Hope this helps! Dave from the UK ( an old Rocker)

[@bullpencycles]

@@notwocdivad Now you've got me wondering. I don't claim to be an expert on these. I rarely see any Cottons in the USA, So I'm reading about Cotton's Telstar roadracer, but it also says that model used the Villier's Starracer engine, at least it says that on this Bonham's auction site. www.bonhams.com/auctions/15321/lot/463/ Then, if you look at the 2nd video of this Oley series, there is an AJS. I have to watch both of my videos again, to compare the Cotton engine with the AJS, because they lookd like the same motor in each, and I frankly don't know without looking.

[@notwocdivad]

Hi Again, on reading I could find no record of a VILLIERS STAR RACER engine There was a STAR MAKER used in trials and road racing and you were correct this engine was later used in Fluff Brown's AJS bikes. Looking back at these old models can be so addictive can't it? If I find anything more I will post here! Knowledge is a great thing eh? Dave.

[@bullpencycles]

Yes, and you caught what I did not. I think Bonham's misspoke. No StarRacer (versus StarMaker). But that begs my question, and I do not know the answer. Was that a Cotton motor in the Cotton or a Villiers StarMaker

[@dockey6942]

Oil

[@richardcruz7265]

When Joe Biden sends me a stimulus check I'll give you a call

[@bullpencycles]

OK. I'll be sure not to wait on that!

[@allenschmitz9644]

Gas relics ?

[@stevengonzales4001]

OLD SCHOOL DUDE WHO KNOWS HIS SHIT

[@bullpencycles]

I forgot more than what my mentors knew, but we are the next generation

[@user-bo4ki2zq2m]

get a phone number you missed the bargain

[@bullpencycles]

I read them when they're posted, but most of the vendors would rather sell there and not haul home

[@user-bo4ki2zq2m]

waste of time watching this dude's video he get\s no phone numbers

[@bullpencycles]

If the phone numbers are there, I try to say them. If they are not there, I cant

[@rosegeaber7533]

Hello! Just came across your channel. I have no idea why I love watching old motorcycles or cars! I don’t even know what you are referring to with some of the bikes or parts. I guess I just like history 🛵Thanks for the walkthrough!

[@bullpencycles]

Yeah, its the stories! That's what does it for me, and there are so many different types.