AMD FX-8350 8-Core CPU from 2012 still going strong?

[@Chakotay2222]

What a moron, uses brand new gpu in old machine and is shocked it runs well

[@Subh8081]

The 8 core AMD FX-8350 has a geekbench multicore score of between 2700-3000 which is same as a modern day AMD Ryzen 3 2200G or i3-8100T. Can it handle browsing, light multitasking , MS Office, Chrome with 10 tabs? Sure. No one want's to know that. I think he wanted to show the limit of this processor in terms of bottlenecking modern GPU if someone wants to continue with this processor for a year or two more.

[@reggiexp69]

Still runs 60fps fortnite. I also ran fortnite at 120fps in 2018 ish (my rx480 was the limit factor...) 4.5ghz on a msi 970 mobo that had vrams that where boiling... Poor motherboard

[@Sephy69]

@@reggiexp69 yeah you will want some form of cooling on the vrms lol. i had a biostar board for my fx 8350 and it throttled the cpu like mad. had to buy some small heatsinks and aim a small fan towards it lol. still, loved the fx 8350. will play any game you throw at it really

[@Saintbow]

Honestly dude, Phil puts the effort and takes the time to show that an 8 year old cpu with a modern gpu can still hold it's own and won't bottom out; and you have the audacity to say he's a moron? Why don't you go back to asking mommy and daddy for money to buy some skins from Fortnite because this is a grownup video... And I understand if you have to google the word audacity, it's a SAT word and it's a little ahead of your current grade. But don't you worry champ, you will get there one day...maybe...Well, not really with your folks as your home school teachers due to the plague going on. You will be the first 4th grader to buy beer with your teachers at this rate...On the bright side, every village need's an idiot and your future is bright. Moron...

[@MrReddragongamingHD]

That's kinda the point, in order to know what this CPU is capable of you have to remove all other bottlenecks in a system, which is why it uses a new overkill GPU.

[@craigsommerville3863]

Everyone: Look at this BRAND NEW 10th gen intel CPU Phil: Here is an AMD CPU from 2012 Phil wins

[@philscomputerlab]

Hehe :D

[@sidewinder86ify]

14+++++++++ refresh Skylake.

[@darrenwendell1723]

New stuff is boring. Phil's take on older tech is far more interesting.

[@hellbringer09]

a 250 fsb oc is no joke on a fx system ;) helps the single core speed significantly

[@HD-dp1pr]

@@hellbringer09 only if the north bridge was a bit higher

[@Vienna3080]

Cant believe the FX 8350 came out in 2012 Damn i feel old...

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea it goes so fast...

[@zodden01]

I remember when the Pentium 233 mmx came out. I overclocked it to 290mhz.....So I feel really old! lol

[@IcyEyeG]

@@philscomputerlab Please consider getting an Asrock 990FX Extreme4 motherboard to use with this processor. In my opinion that board represents the end of an era in computing, as it's the most powerful motherboard still supporting floppy drives and with tons of legacy connectivity alongside with modern stuff.

[@AColonelPanic]

@@zodden01 I remember when my family got our first comp: a 486 DX2 66mhz.... The case even had a turbo button....

[@zodden01]

@@AColonelPanic wow the good old 486! I think that was in my first PC as a child. It was an IBM clone from a company called Leading Edge. Good times!

[@Mobin92]

Ironically this probably works better today with modern games, than how it did in 2012.

[@jayharris5460]

I've got the FX-8370 and it still runs like it did the day I built the system, all be a few other improvments, like SSD, faster ram and a different GPU (blew my last one up)

[@kokilius]

Ur right bro. Back then decent GPU for this flagship simply doesn't exist.

[@levelup1279]

Same, I'm very happy with my FX CPU, & I don't even have mine overclocked. No clue what my memory speeds are either, so maybe I should look into getting some good ram as I imagine anything DDR3 is dirt cheap now.

[@groyperfuhr4871]

that's probably just cause games are better now but you may be right. I've had mine for almost a decade and haven't noticed any reduction in frames while gaming. Then again I haven't bought many new games cause they're all shit, the latest new game I bought was far cry new dawn/red dead 2. Runs as good on those as it does Cod WaW

[@agostonpalatinus1513]

Dx12/vulksn made the fx core usable. It was always s good cpu

[@AdamThomasMusic]

I bought an FX-8350 for my PC I built in 2015. It's still my main PC now, fantastic CPU it has never let me down.

[@jorged0712]

Me too, but it let me down with cyberpunk. Massive bottleneck. Ryzen 5 3600 is more than enough

[@damirzlatkic8134]

@@jorged0712 oh really? That's odd my fx 8350 at 4.5ghz is barely bottlenecking my gtx 1070 in cyberpunk. Maybe in really busy areas I loose around 5 fps compared to the ryzen benchmarks I've watched.

[@jeremy7249]

@@damirzlatkic8134 i really doubt that...even in 2015 it was pretty underpowered compared to intel unless ur running 1440p or so where the gpu is bottlenecking factor. However it was a great upgrade for me from the i5 4690K @ 4.8Ghz to the R5 2600 @ 4Ghz cause ive come across bottlenecking my old GTX 1070 in games such as Battlefield 1. Now its paired with the RX 6800 and its a perfect 4K machine (for me and my games)

[@damirzlatkic8134]

@@jeremy7249 yeah I hear that's because not many games were programmed to utilise 8 cores back then. Apparently cyberpunk does. My gpu is on 99% utilisation when playing this game. But you gotta understand I have very good ram to pair with the cpu and a sabertooth motherboard I thought I would never get.

[@damirzlatkic8134]

@@jeremy7249 I'm playing in 1080p

[@RektemRectums]

This processor holds a special place in my heart. Back in 2014 I had an i7-4790K but I still wanted an AMD processor to play with. I had more fun overclocking the 8350 and building a computer with it. Most PC gamers will have a particularly fond memory of their own past PC builds. My FX-8350 inside a hideously beautiful Silverstone RVX01 with a huge MSI GTX 970 and three low profile fans for clearance was my most favorite build. I have a 9900K with a 1080 Ti today but I tend to have more fun with lower grade parts. Pushing how far they can go. Edit: it was 2014, not 2013.

[@Jojokesuke]

My current pc has an FX-8350 in it. But it seems to have trouble with some games. Example: It Runs at 60fps 70% of the time then almost rhythmically it drops to like 10. I managed to get an i7-4790k as a gift. Would it be worth it to buy a motherboard for that i7? ps my graphics card is a gtx 1660.

[@RektemRectums]

@@Jojokesuke Yes. 4790K is perfect for a 1660. Back then ASUS made the best motherboards. I had a Maximum VII Hero. My buddy owns my 4790K PC now. We play online all the time. Monster Hunter World, EDF5, Nioh 2, Valheim, Baldur's Gate 3, it's been working great for him and he only has 980 Ti.

[@Jojokesuke]

@@RektemRectums Thank you for the reply!

[@antonhei2443]

Oh yes, testing older and second hand (well kept) parts is so much fun. Just got a Quadro K620 with 2GB 128bit DDR3 pulled from a HP computer and it surprised me how fast it is for a Windows XP era games. 👽

[@GodSaveTheUnitedStates]

​@@antonhei2443 I love testing used pc components more than actually playing pc games. I guess that's why I love watching this man on KZbin so much, lol.

[@Badoyz]

Bought my FX8350 back in 2012 and still using it daily today! It has done me well over all the years honestly.

[@TeqsTV]

I can confirm even the fx-6350 is still holding strong, had mine 5 years and has never let me down

[@phalspar]

If you know....I have an fx 8370 and I just got a gtx 1660 off amazon(shipping) and I’m wondering if you think it’s run good, idk if you know but I’m running out of sources

[@phalspar]

Did all the upgrading (cpu gpu) just for some non alpha game: Star Citizen

[@TeqsTV]

phalspar I think the gpu will be held back by the fx8370 just because of how much newer the card is and the potential it has. You’ll definitely get great frames though as the 8370 still has plenty of power

[@phalspar]

TeqsTV what AM3+ would you recommend? Is there a “top of he line” AM3+ cpu that’ll run the gpu smooth?

[@TeqsTV]

phalspar if your motherboard is compatible I’d definitely look at getting a newer Ryzen processors as even the quad core ones have loads more potential and run a lot better with the 1660!

[@johncate9541]

I bought one of these not long after it came out, and put it on the 970 chipset version of that Gigabyte motherboard. I could hit 5.2 GHz on air using a SilverStone HE01, but 4.85 Prime95 stable. The main problem, as you pointed out, was that in 2012, most applications couldn't run eight threads. It's a better CPU now than it was then, unless you were running Linux back then--but if you were running Linux, you weren't gaming.

[@MrCipolenio]

It goes to show the versatility of PC gaming. This CPU wasn't even a great performer back in the day but if you had only updated your GPU you could still be using it today...

[@ZeroSpawn]

That and progression of graphics has slowed dramatically thanks to consoles being first and pc second.

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@ZeroSpawn I don't think it's console first, and PC second, but more of consoles as a whole having a longer gap between full generational upgrades, the fact that more people then ever are into PC gaming, so if companies want to make money, then they have to optimize their games for the hardware most people are running, plus when you look at it hardware progression while it is improving has really slow down since the 90's - mid 00's, where 4 core CPU's have been the normal for well past a decade, and we are now finally seeing more people on the mainstream side of things shifting to 6, and 8+ core CPU's, plus thanks to the improvements in Linux in recent years with AMD stepping up their open source drivers, you don't need as powerful of hardware to get a decent experience from your computer as days of past.

[@theglowcloud2215]

What sense does it make to spend money on a GPU upgrade on a platform from 8 years ago, with terrible IPC? There's a massive performance delta between an 8350 and a Ryzen 3600/3700X. 7nm is also so much more power efficient than an 8350.

[@Hornet135]

The Glow Cloud /woosh

[@glenwaldrop8166]

AMD was ahead of it's time with the FX, problem was they didn't *quite* hit the target. The IPC wasn't quite on par with the Core 2, clocks made up the difference but by then they were competing with Ivy Bridge. They stopped developing the arch and then came Haswell which smacked the FX pretty hard. Had they kept progressing the FX line as originally intended it would have been similar to the Zen cores, quite competitive. A lot of the architectural design plans were fairly similar. Instead they wiped the board and made a new arch using a lot of those planned features.

[@kostasbezaitis2695]

So many people are still on this platform. Glad to see it can spit 60 fps (or really close to!)

[@TheGyuuula]

Well, the current consoles using Jaguar CPUs, which are truly just low powered, 2 Ghz Bulldozers inside. Once the new consoles are out - probably next year - the FX, which is the final iteration of the Athlon64 line, can be finally laid rest...

[@hardwarechronicles9178]

if it werent for the new instructions like SSSE 4.1 4.2 it be a still good cpu today id gladly use a phenom2 X6 1100T its aging but its still managing quite a few games

[@kostasbezaitis2695]

@@hardwarechronicles9178 I do still have a Phenom ii X2 550 @ 3.8Ghz on my XP machine. It gets smoked by the core2duo anyway but the phenom has some weird charm, can't really explain it but i still love that 550 :)

[@Toastmaster_5000]

@@TheGyuuula Sort of - IIRC, the Jaguar cores are actually independent cores, instead of modules. But yeah otherwise they're pretty similar to Bulldozer.

[@Toastmaster_5000]

@@hardwarechronicles9178 The FX series does support SSE 4.2

[@latt.qcd9221]

Bought this in around 2013 or so and I'm still using it to play modern games. Runs even Doom Eternal at max settings perfectly fine. It's one hell of a CPU.

[@samuelyeet6006]

Bull.. bull, leave, get out of here, full of crap, i hate my CPU it doesnt run shit lol

[@poinced7096]

@@samuelyeet6006mine can run games like the master chief collection and doom eternal max settings aswell, I have this cpu..

[@Zazzy-Apocalype]

the fx8350 might need some oc done but I gotta say even cyberpunk was playable on that monster 😄

[@poinced7096]

@BottleNeck Gaming ok

[@groyperfuhr4871]

@@samuelyeet6006 it's no bull, mine runs doom 2016 just fine and the new doom game is practically the same graphically. The only cases where I run into issues is if I'm running a tekkit modpack at the same time as a smaller game like don't starve or Civ

[@ado3247]

1:00 oh god that motherboard flex sent chills down my spine

[@RS250Squid]

It made me make some very horrified noises.

[@famousfighter2310]

Why

[@RS250Squid]

Because even as experienced builders, a lot of us don't want to use force on our (presumably) new and sparkly motherboards to the extent they flex like that.

[@oskarpetersen962]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that cringed at that, HOLD DOWN THE DAMN BOARD YO

[@TheScure]

This CPU works better now than in 2012... There were many games with 2 core utilization, 4 was considered good. Today on new engines, DX12, Vulkan it's an amazing CPU. If you are not obsessed with stable 60FPS or 144FPS or anything crazy then this CPU is still enough after 8 fuckin years.

[@philscomputerlab]

Exactly right. AMD fine whine in action...

[@Tom2404]

But now it's not worth getting it at all.

[@mmllmmll22]

@@philscomputerlab #Soon™ :D (Still owning FX6100 & 6300)

[@h2oaddict28]

Want to know a little secret? My i5 750, x3440 and x3470 are 11 years old and do much better in games, same goes for my 3570k. And they don't stutter! (I own a 8320E)

[@hellbringer09]

part of me still misses my gigabyt 990fx ud3 great vrms on them... i ran my 8320 at 4.9 with pumped fsb and ht link at like 2800 and good 2666 mem it slapped around an sandy bridge i7 not just the 2600k...

[@pc-sound-legacy]

The FX8350 also is a solid choice for video editing, not just for gaming. Great platform, I had one until upgrading to Ryzen 5 2600 in 2019. Truly wins the budget-build-award!

[@gojkogalonja]

"I see why this processor has so many FANS out there..." :D

[@philscomputerlab]

LOL

[@jacksimple3766]

and so BIG fans!

[@butwhole9704]

LOL *cries in excessive heat* My 8350 under load makes my case hot enough I could re-heat my dinner on it if I was too lazy to go down stairs, I wish that were an exaggeration but it's true, I have done it before.

[@marcelbarlik729]

@@butwhole9704 Indeed, I have an 8320 overclocked to 4.7 at 1.57V and it does run quite toasty in the 50-60C

[@ronguin7062]

not fair! thats a 9750 joke lol

[@oceanbytez847]

Me: *Turns on computer with OC FX-8350 Also me in 10 minutes: *sweating profusely as room temp increases by 10F ambient*

[@DCobra98]

Mine was always the best in winter ;)

[@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka]

10F good that it wasn't 10Celsius

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Lol I can achieve the same if I run aida 64 with my core i7 and also furmark in the background on a rx 570

[@elekbeviz4058]

came the intel fanboy... you can still say such nonsense?

[@MCChubbyUnicorn]

I have the space heater as well. At least I can just run an instance of minecraft when I get cold.

[@cassandralyris4918]

Still use my 9590FX chip PC to this day. Once you learn how to configure your Mobo so it doesn't turn into a small heater it's still quite good. (If you're reading this and saying, "The 9590? He's talking about the 8350!" The 9590 is an OOTB overclocked 8350, for clarity)✌️😉

[@zlatkoflajpan2918]

Yeah with 220 W Powersucking.Todays midrage complete system. (R5 2600+GTX1660 =185 W.

[@cmdrleto]

same here

[@Donnerwamp]

@@zlatkoflajpan2918 And a unlocked 10900K runs at about 250W... The 9590 was supposed to scratch the high end and in this performance range, every CPU I know burns a lot of power if you let it.

[@AcuraAddicted]

9370 user here. It's especially great for cold Canadian winters for us in Toronto, it really adds to somewhat suffering heating in our apartment, which is especially great for my feet.

[@YorHighness]

Still rockin my 9590 watercooled crosshair v forrmula z No need to upgrade yet. Amazing it isnt even close to fading.

[@neojist8422]

Those extra cores/threads holding up better now that more modern games are optimized for more threads

[@fatale8639]

the and FX 6300 is dog I have it in my PC and it's so slow

[@dnsean03]

Not true 8 core though

[@fire_silicon7803]

Problem is that even when you choose to optimise your game for this one particular Cpu, you are going to have a really bad time because it will require you to do so on a really low level. The CPU has 8 true cores but that's just it. Nothing else. Every other core shares all resources with neighbouring core including bus, FPU, L1 and L2 cache, which results in severe bottleneck when one of the cores in the pair gets fully loaded, leaving the other with no resources to work with. You can overcome this problem by overclocking FSB but it still barely allows the CPU to utilize it's full potential.

[@gromm225]

​@@fatale8639 The 6300 was released in 2012; its a fucking dinosaur! I don't really know what kind of performance were you expecting from that CPU in 2020...

[@pikingd8840]

I have fx 4100 still now paired with gtx 950. Modern games are quite playable !!

[@christopherfuentes6849]

I read 8-core 2012 and for a sec i thought he was talking about my i7 2600k

[@stevesmith1383]

why would you think that? the 2600k is 100% a quad core with HT

[@christopherfuentes6849]

@@stevesmith1383 mine shows 8

[@stevesmith1383]

@@christopherfuentes6849 you have 8 threads. Or task manager might say 8 logic cores. Or something like that. Those are not real codes at all. It’s called hyper threading It’s easy enough to google and I’ve owned hundreds of i7-2600 and 2600ks All i7 from the normal line ups were 4 core 8 thread from gen 1 to gen 7. Gen 8 is when that changed. Other than that there were extreme platforms where they were high core count i7s. Like I have one. A i7-5969x. It’s a 8 core 16 thread cpu.

[@christopherfuentes6849]

@@stevesmith1383 Um ya now shit Damn bro this went so far over your head nasa is calling it a ufo

[@Assembled-Saints]

@@stevesmith1383 wow talking about missing it all together. Geez.

[@renardgrise]

Loved my 8350... it is still running well in my backup\Secondary PC. Never had a complaint.... arguably aged better than the i5 it was competing against.

[@leto1178]

Very interesting subject, I like to see how old "common" hardware is holding up these days. +1

[@johnroberts2905]

Not that interesting when he's done it last least three times before with CPUs from the same family.

[@LightStruk]

Just imagine the same comparison from 1992-2000. “Here we have an AMD Am386 DX at 40 MHz with a math coprocessor from 1992. How does it compare to an AMD Athlon or Intel Pentium III at 1 GHz?”

[@SOU6900]

@@LightStruk I'd still watch that video if he actually did it. That's just me though

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@LightStruk The leaps truly are not what they use to be, back in the late 80's - early/mid 00's far as hardware goes. however on the software side they have been great with many Linux distros like Manjaro, and Mint DE being so good these days.

[@oceania68]

I'm still using my FX 8350, still does the job & I am glad you showed Mech Warrior 5 works well.

[@hl6816]

I had the AMD FX 8320 and I was able to overclock it from 3.5Ghz to 4.5Ghz. I just switched it out for a new computer with an AMD Ryzen processor and DDR4 RAM. The 8320 was a really awesome processor. I do a lot of video editing and gaming so I put it through a massive amount of stress. Very pleased!

[@DCobra98]

This CPU served me well from 2012 until earlier this year when I upgraded to Ryzen 3800X. My son inherited my FX-8350 and he's still gaming just fine on it and a GTX 970

[@Blurredman]

I only upgraded 2 years ago to one! Used to be on a x2 4200 for 10 years..

[@philscomputerlab]

Nice!

[@El_Grincho]

My X2-4400 is up and running still as a file server for the media player.

[@GraveUypo]

i used to have a x2 4800 i think back in 2008. for a month. it was so bad i upgraded again to a core2duo right after

[@Innosos]

You upgraded to an FX? You poor soul. My thoughts are with you. Ryzen is so cheap and great performance wise you must feel ripped off.

[@HD-dp1pr]

@@Innosos not everyone in every country can afford ryzen

[@dabombinablemi6188]

With the results in Battlefield, EA made a point of optimising for the FX architecture with 3/4 if I remember correctly, and it seems to have carried through each successive game.

[@doltBmB]

Yeah it was amazing to see the FX being recommended spec alongside the latest and greatest from intel.

[@South_0f_Heaven_]

I bought a 8350 in 2013 specifically for BF3. Had a Phenom X4 965 with a 660GTX GPU that was bottlenecked and running 95%-99% CPU With the 8350 it went down to about 40% CPU tops Still have the same setup, don’t play anything modern but it get 250-300FPS on CS:GO

[@2manygamestoplay]

@@South_0f_Heaven_ Having your CPU run at 100% is nothing bad per se.

[@XX-121]

@@2manygamestoplay as long as you have appropriate cooling for your cloockspeed. that's why it's best to test your overclocks with Prime95 because if it can handle that for at least an hour then you should be good.

[@HD-dp1pr]

@@2manygamestoplay well it will take a while to access when of your background tasks and it could cause the game to crash when Accessing background tasks

[@Pailloran.]

I actually just watched this video on a machine running an 8350. I needed to cobble together an additional PC out of old parts I had lying around for lock-down. I was pleasantly surprised that paired with a 1060 and an older SATA SSD, it handles The Witcher 3 and No Man's Sky at 1080p pretty admirably for its age (even if the cooler is a bit loud). It was fun to watch your tests on these other titles, thanks!

[@easley421]

My brother somehow still uses this cpu OC'ed to 5 GHz on water. He's using a Titan GPU. I don't know how but it's still going strong all these years later.

[@levelup1279]

Cause it's a God tier CPU, I find it funnnmny how FX's were hated so much when they came out, but they are on a complete other level compared to Intel's offerings at the time.

[@easley421]

@@levelup1279 to be fair, Sandybridge CPU's were tanks as well. The 2500k especially is still relevant all these years later. I have one in the family PC with dual 280x's. At 1080p it'll run a 75 hz monitor ALL DAY. Funny thing about the AMD CPU..... You even got a check from the lawsuit all those years later😂. The CPU that pays for itself.

[@lumine7653]

This is the content we want! Not videos of "new"" 14nm cpus from some company. :D

[@KrasnyPetrograd]

Thanks for the video. I upgrade from FX-4100 to FX-8320E around 8 months ago (I want to buy 8350 but I can not find one) pair with GTX 1060 3 GB. It's works great, planned to use it for some years.

[@420247paul]

I had one of those it kicked ass for me for a long time

[@TheFreddo222]

Also still running this cpu. Holds up really well!

[@CalmSteve]

I bought this processor in 2013, I still use it everyday for gaming and don't intend to upgrade anytime soon. Very smooth!

[@redsmith9953]

I'm still using it , best processor ever ( price /speed/quality ) , and not thinking to upgrade it any time soon.

[@bluescluessuperagent]

.....lets not get ahead of ourselves lol

[@eugrow4174]

@@bluescluessuperagent It's true! I run a FX 8350 with GTX 1060 6gb and I run Rust on about 60-70 fps (Now my only problem with that game is that it's RAM that is mostly used for rendering. So My ram is bottlenecking a little. I do have 16gb)

[@jego23allan]

@@eugrow4174 I’m using the FX830 with a 1080 8gb no issues.

[@eugrow4174]

@@jego23allan I'm talking about the game I'm using. It uses mostly ram to load in the map and stuff. So I need to upgrade ram for more fps

[@onepumpchump1238]

U should start saving for a Ryzen or intel upgrade it’s going to be worth it in the long run.

[@ApexierGS]

So glad you could stretch the FX8350's legs. I had that CPU at 4.5ghz non stop for 5 years with 2x R270Xs and then R390s, and playing Civ5 and city skylines really helped. I run a Ryzen 3600 but will upgrade to 3700x when I see a 2nd hand bargain.

[@innergame05]

I was using this cpu that I bought in 2013 for $150 with an rx580 8gb and ran today's most demanding AAA titles on stock clock speed with very little issues. I moved up to a ryzen 5 2600x with same amount of ram (16gb) and noticed a 20 fps average increase but I do miss being able to choose to boot Win XP 32bit on my 8350, R9 280x.

[@zenitpro]

Wow, wow, wow! Now look at that! This is amazing. This CPU might very well be in my next PC, as it holds up admirably well today. Thanks for the cool video, great information.

[@zenitpro]

@The Monster Under Your Bed Finding is not the problem, the problem is cashing out what is being asked for this CPU!

[@zenitpro]

@The Monster Under Your Bed Definetely. For such an old CPU it's just too pricey.

[@richardapril2385]

Impressive performance for an 8 year old cpu. Moore’s Law has truly slowed down to the point where a higher end 8 year old processor is not yet obsolete. I think the memory improvements, PCIE advancements, SSD evolution and graphics card advancement have been a lot more impressive than CPU improvements over the past decade. Those are what truly makes an 8 year old pc seem slow. You proved this by running a decent 8 year old processor with more modern parts which equals a system that is perfectly usable today.

[@DC-te1gw]

Try 13 year old! hahahaha. X5470 CPU and RX470 playing PUBG at 1080, and getting Winner Winner Chicken Dinners!

[@ReelSpider]

Moore's law is the observation that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles about every two years. It does not really have to do with computing power, but rather chip real estate. How many of those transistors can you cram onto a little chip and still have them work properly. It should also be noted that "Moore's Law" has not been accurate for more than 10 years. That is to say, the doubling of transistor count has not happened every two years, but the doubling of processor power has been right about on point.

[@toogood1652]

So true I play all new games on highest settings no prob at all My specs AMD 8350 cpu with wraith cooler 16 gigs of corsair vengeance ram runnin in 26000mhz EVGA 650 power supply ASRock 970 motherboard and RX 580 OC 8gb video card with a WD black hard drive

[@bshl3866]

Q6600

[@dqbeseventynine7452]

@@toogood1652 try to migrate your system to ssd. You'll thank me later.

[@PierreVonStaines]

I have a a bit of a soft spot for this CPU, thanks for covering it Phil. 👍

[@fergusof]

Still running my FX-8350 since they first came out. Works great. I have always loved AMD -- the little guy. If I upgrade again, it will be Ryzen. Thanks for the informative video.

[@JasonLefevers]

This processor is still a beast. I have one and still play modern games with it. Been waiting for it to really show its age to switch to the Ryzen platform, but i've been pleased with its performance.

[@emp.splash]

Getting some great numbers on this oldie, did not expect it to do so well. Nice to see the FX being somewhat avenged by the passing of time and increased reliance on multi-threaded workloads.

[@tonkatoytruck]

Like so many of AMD products, they all seem to age well over time with support for newer technologies, as they become more widespread (i.e. DX12, Vulkan, multi core cpu\apu game support, etc.) And with AMD's latest announcement of extending B450 and X470 cpu support, those on the AM4 platform have a lot to be happy about.

[@DarkMikaruX]

Dad inherited my old FX8350 rig and I think it finally gave up the ghost. I bought it brand new in 2012 so 8 years of service ain't bad. He sent me a text yesterday that there is no more video output. So.. time to upgrade. Loved that thing. RIP FX.... you served father and son well. Great video... very cool to see it still holding it's own.

[@Skarwind]

Mine sits on my display shelf now. Little bugger did well for me.

[@bubatzpirat396]

Sold my 8320 for 20 Euro

[@bubatzpirat396]

Has seen much shit 4.5ghz, overvolting and 100degrees celcius a few times

[@kentatnight2607]

I'll take it lol

[@morantaylor]

lol I was running an RTX 2080 8GB in my FX-8150 for 3 months prior to building my Ryzen 7 3700X replacement. The FX CPU is now running in my son's PC. Fortnite was running @200 FPS on the RTX-2080 with CPU overclocked to 4.4GHz 1080p Epic settings. Got a good run out of it as my main rig 2012 - 2019 :)

[@flyguille]

From 8350 to 3700x is 100% power increase.... it doubles fps in most games.

[@aj_stillcranked]

You should've gave your son a Athlon and a gt1030

[@ian260672]

@@flyguille I went from fx8350 to 3600x and get at least double performance in games. You are correct. :)

[@lukasvincourcz7043]

@@aj_stillcranked depends on which athlon platform because there is a lot of athlons and a lot of sockets for them

[@AgentSmith911]

I use my FX 8350 with a GTX 1070 FE. Yeah, it's a bottleneck. But I got a good deal for the graphics card and upgrading the CPU with a new MB and RAM is expensive. I also game at 1440.

[@nicholsliwilson]

Good video as always, @PhilsComputerLab I’m not using mine overclocked because I don’t overclock retro hardware but at a base clock of 4Ghz, mated to a GTX 1050 Ti it does everything I need it to for retro gaming of it’s era.

[@bannisher]

Thats the processor in my gaming pc right now... i upgraded gpu last year and it hums along just fine. Built my comp around 2016 and this processor was a steal.

[@guard13007]

As someone using this processor now, yes! :D

[@chadmorris946]

Same here does exactly what I need it to do. I don't live with mommy and daddy so I can't afford a brand new build every 6 months. I just smh when I see kids thinking they need the newest generation of CPU.

[@BGTech1]

I love this cpu

[@link123leon7]

Yes me too and a gtx 1660

[@kokilius]

@@link123leon7 i run fx 8350 at 4,7 to 5 ,1 Ghz oc and RX 5700xt gpu...I am fine for years and years

[@link123leon7]

@@kokilius nice nice I am just now having a new cpu put on and everything

[@buckaroobonsi555]

I bought an 8350 1 or years ago on a 3 day sale from Newegg for $69USD, A Gigabyte 970A-DS3P on clearance for $54 or $49. A year latter an RX570 for $149 on sale. 16GB of G. SKill DDR3 for $79...I only recently put it all together into a system. I am not a hardcore gamer but this thing rocks for me. I have been using a FX4350 and Quadro K6 for at least 6 or 7 years with 8 GB of DDR3. For what I paid I have no room to complain. So my old computer will be on my electronics workbench and my new machine is my main computer. Most games I play at 1080P give me 65fps to 200fps. Movies look great and all my normal productivity utilities all run great. I understand at the current prices no one should buy one but if you get one cheap or already have one nothing wrong with the FX8350 either.

[@MrJohnLongbow]

FX9590 with 120mm FX AIO, Radeon Sapphire R9 295X2 on Asus Crosshair V Formula Z and 4x8GB 2133MHz Kingston Fury 😀 No longer my main but she still runs 😉

[@racerberlin5100]

Dude you got a nice Room Heater there lol

[@thegeforce6625]

Still would be a sizeable beast even today?

[@bigmeme8464]

Literally from hell

[@MrJohnLongbow]

Racerberlin02 the cpu and gpu do get a bit hot yeah 😜🤪👍

[@agostonpalatinus1513]

8370 would have been better.

[@bakua01]

Wow I'm surprised on the fact that it is still usable today Thank you phil for this amazing video

[@rolimane]

I feel so old.. This guy just said Half Life 2 was a retro game.

[@ronguin7062]

feel ya bro. I didnt wanna bring up everqest or Ashron's Call. these gys are all bunched up about FPS and I remember a time where baud rate was THEEEEEE thing :-)

[@stu2779]

I still use one of these with a RX 580 8gb as my daily driver. Haven't had an issue with it not delivering a decent frame rate in any game I have played for years.

[@SireSquish]

Absolutely. I have a Crosshair formula-Z of the same vintage from and it has no trouble with Doom Eternal (which is the only modern game I've had time for).

[@user-ke6sy5jf6k]

I have this processor as well (got it free from my friend) and i use radeon RX580 4gb graphics card and works well

[@Airbag888]

SO close to 100k subs man... good luck!

[@ragefacememeaholic5366]

Wow I just recently upgraded from that processor I could feel that it wasn't working as well as it used to. It now sits on my shelf and some I admire its resilience. 7 years I had that CPU.

[@timurcayli6457]

Really great Video ! Close Attention to Detail and objective tests. Keep it Up man

[@CuttingEdgeRetro]

So close to 100K mate. An early contrats. Also i'd like to see a 1090T 2020 edition video seeing how those chips hold up today. :)

[@amdintelxsniperx]

1090t isgt very good now . The lack of instructions really stinks can't play apex ac can't even watch KZbin any more at least I've noticed

[@classic_jam]

@@amdintelxsniperx True about Apex but I watched KZbin on a Northwood Pentium 4 last year so I have doubts.

[@thereallantesh]

@@amdintelxsniperx The lack of instructions is definitely a negative, but KZbin? Really? It absolutely can run KZbin, and a lot of games. I have an 1100T that I play Crisis with.

[@ngybrid]

@@amdintelxsniperx My Phenom II X4 940 still hold up nicely. YouTubing every day since the outbreak. The lack of AVX (as all Phenoms didn't have it) means I can't play The Division 2 and The Crew 2. Sucks indeed.

[@nikolakarovic5964]

Phenom cpus share same fate as C2quads.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

I certainly hope they're going strong! I wanna sell mine.

[@philscomputerlab]

LOL

[@carrielam2187]

How are you the top comment on so many Aussie tech channels @Marco ?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@carrielam2187 I live in Taiwan which is Perth time. I often comment in Greg's videos but the timing just buries my comment because i wake up too late. I don't really bother commenting in channels like Linus cause i'm certain to get buried. Also most know me through Tech YES City since Bryan and I are friends.

[@kaitoharrison872]

@@MarcoGPUtuber Oh, you were the translator (or something like that) in one of Bryan deal hunting video in Taiwan.

[@Petar321_GT]

@@MarcoGPUtuber myth busted

[@faervas1234]

This setup was my gaming system since 2012. Every few years upgrading the GPU with something in the $200.00 range. The only reason I don' have it now is the MB fried. Here are a few key things to know about this setup. it works as a gaming computer and a space heater. Even at idle it would heat up my room. That fan is not silent and I had to replace the fan every 2 years. I had a 6 core FX with both running my room would get over 90 degrees. I could only have 1 running at a time.

[@oldtechie6834]

I had a Corsair liquid cooler for the FX-8350 when the system was new. With Corsair the noise was still noticeable. Some years later the power switch on the chassis failed. I took the opportunity to overhaul the system. Along the way I replaced the Corsair with a Kraken liquid cooler and the system has been very very quiet since.

[@EscapeVelo]

I bought an FX 8350 last year, brand new in box. LOL!

[@brodriguez11000]

Mine's still holding up well. The motherboard, not so much. Good thing I can get a replacement cheap since it's not the "latest and greatest".

[@oceanbytez847]

for the 60$ i bought mine new. For 60$ it holds up fairly well all things considered.

[@samuelyeet6006]

@@oceanbytez847 yeah but you also bought the matching motherboard and ram, which you cant upgrade the CPU without getting a new motherboard and ram, so its like, was that sacrifice worth it? Nah i hate this setup, cant play cyberpunk, basically at all

[@kokilius]

@@samuelyeet6006 I play Cyberpunk with my fx 8350 oc at 5 ghz , 16 gb 1866mhz RAM and RX 5700XT...play the same like my friend with ryzen 2700x and same GPU...we have 4 FPS dif...ahahahahah

[@samuelyeet6006]

@@kokilius 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢

[@Trick-Framed]

Picked up an FX 8350 over an Ivy Bridge i5 in early 2014. Looking for best value for money. I regretted that decision until 2016. That was when I purchased an RX 480 8GB and 120GB SSD, and realized I had an XBOX One X killer. I was so impressed with how well the chip performed, and that was on a Gigabyte 970 series mobo with average VRMs and stock cooling. Would still overclock to 4.4 all core which was more than enough for what I was playing at that time. I still have it today and it's on an Asus 990x and overclocks to 4.8 ghz on a Cryorig H7. simply amazing that I get very close to the ivy bridge single core (i5 3570/i7 3770) and it crushes the i5 and meets the i7 in mutli core. Fine wine indeed!

[@Trick-Framed]

@Don Johnson I didn't. That's what it was capable of when it was finished.

[@mongocom1735]

Don Johnson its not native 4K and in most games it's stuck at 30 fps

[@rossmclaughlin7158]

I pick up an 4th gen i5 a year or 2 after I built my fx build and tbh I ran the fx in my main rig as it done better in my use case both pcs upgraded now but at the end there the fx was actually holding up better than the i5 it was locked i5 n fx was overclocked but everything just worked better on fx build I guess due to fact it has extra threads any time you were doing anything in background while gaming on the i5 you could feel the drop more but on fx build was less of an isue the i5 was more expensive than the fx at times of purchase as well. That said its one saving grace it was easier to upgrade as just bought a used i7 n dropped it in n job done were as fx 8350 needed motherboard ram and cpu witch cost fair bit more but did get way bigger jump as well

[@coryandrum]

i just put my FX-8370, mobo w/oc chip, and ram at 1866 on ebay for $125. Was going to sell it as a complete build for $200, but things with high shipping price don't really sell well. Still a great cpu, with the bonus of being a electric heater.

[@h2oaddict28]

That's silly overpriced dude...

[@coryandrum]

@@h2oaddict28 the lowest price for just the ram i could find as $89 and all the mobo's are $150 (from china) or higher. To buy new its $90 for cpu $80 for mobo and $60 for ram and that's being really cheap at $230, so $100 cheaper then new. If you think mine was silly just go to ebay for 5 minutes. It even sold with in 20 minutes.....

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

FX8370 (slightly-higher clock version of the 8350) is still running my #2 gaming system. I also have several FX8350e in use in various "dedicated" systems, and one FX6xxx series in something.

[@scrunts666]

I still use one of these and am still very happy with it :D

[@BartoszDebski]

I got FX-6100 from 2011, still rocking !!! Linux + Steam no issues with most of the games.

[@NightMotorcyclist]

My AMD FX 6300 was in use in my main rig up until early 2019 when I built my new Ryzen 5 based PC. The FX chip still handled most things quite well considering and it managed to play many modern games with little issue even though it was paired with a Radeon HD 6970 (it still offered higher frame rates than my Ryzen 5 2400G using the IGP but the drivers were extremely outdated). The FX chips were indeed fine wine as more games these days are making use of more cores but the IPC still holds it back.

[@cristianarcuri1164]

same thing, had an fx 6300 and i upgraded to a ryzen 5, the fx wasn't that bad but it was bottlenecking even with a radeon r9 card

[@flighted2513]

even Ryzen is aging like finewine now because games are using more and more cores

[@Giggidygiggidy12]

thank you for taking the time to upload this, just dusted off an old fx8350, will probably just swap in a newer GPU

[@EternalxFrost]

My main computer is stil an i5-4670K, that I bought brand new and mounted myself back in 2013, just upgraded it slowly over the years. It still runs anything I want, no lag or bottleneck whatsoever. So yeah, it's perfectly possible to have a PC from those times in 2020 and still going strong with it.

[@CRG]

My sons rig is running the 8320 (same 8 cores just slower clock). For games like Minecraft, fortnight, roblox and just youtube it's absolutely perfect. Best of all it was a trash pickup machine along with 16gb ram and a gtx960. The things people throw away, just boggles the mind.

[@rodrigoacosta9708]

I wish one day I have such a good luck!! Hahaha I always keep my eyes open but haven't yet found nothing good enough...here where I live people don't just throw away good things like in the first world countries!! (Assuming you live in such a place... I live in argentina)

[@astealoth]

One of my favorite computers I own is an FX 8370 in a GA-970A-DS3P with 4x4gb DDR3-1866 and a Gigabyte RX 570 8gb and 3 random old low capacity SSDs in a Thermaltake V3 Black and an EVGA 500B. It's like the classic DDR3 build. I don't use it much anymore, but it's all set up in my spare bedroom on a desk with a nice dual display setup like a shrine to the 2010s. The system started out life with an HD 7850 and an FX 6100, it got upgraded off Ebay later in life.

[@Pis1989]

Proud owner of AMD FX-8350 here. Still using it with GTX 1080.

[@edscoto4351]

loved it! thanks for making this video and sharing your experience with legacy yet amazing processors

[@xSwainkx]

used my 8350 from launch up until late 2019 when i upgraded to ryzen 7. thing was a champ

[@philscomputerlab]

Very nice...

[@Kippy8472]

Same here, it never really missed a beat. I only upgraded because the mobo gave in and finding a replacement was not easy.

[@savage-goose]

Still rocking my FX8370 - no real plans to replace it any time soon. I use this machine to work and make money every day, as well as game and do personal computing tasks... My motherboard maxes out at 32GB of Ram, which is my only issue.

[@oceanbytez847]

when 32GB RAM limit is your only perceived 'problem' you know this system is doing good.

[@shivabluegreen]

Thank you Phil for this Video. I was looking around for informtion on upgrading my CPU to this. Your video is helpful in making the decision.

[@ChrisSmith-vw9mx]

Love your work Phil. Still running an 8350 as my daily for the past 7 years, hell it runs Cyberpunk 2077!

[@playtech7165]

My former main cpu!, works very good, performs good, not as much as my new i5 8400 but ...., you need very good cooling, a good cpu cooler and a large well ventilated cabinet. It raises very high temperatures when it is at 100%. When I bought it many years ago, it was performing almost the same as an i7 of that generation, I think it was the third generation

[@jonorgames9880]

I played heavy, with the stock cooler. Enough said, it broke :/

[@CrazyNutDenmark]

Hej there... I am still using my FX-8350, and it still does it job very well, and i have never had any issues with it...

[@salaciouscreations4323]

Windows 10 was a huge turning point for the ol 8350. It's always been a multi tasking workhorse CPU more so than the old i7 3770 CPUs. My wife's upgrade left this CPU into my 5year olds pc. Along with the 32gb of ram as I got nothing it will work in to change out a smaller ram size. SSD and 780ti. He enjoys playing all the old classics had to set the emus to limit the fps as even GameCube games were running in the hundreds of FPS. It's also rock solid on its 4.6ghz oc as the motherboard won't allow higher with that much ram. So hopefully it will last the school life of the nipper and projects as they emerge he wants to do on it.

[@EternalxFrost]

By the way, you got my subscription bro. Your content is quite interesting, and amazing to discover new cheap builds with old tech that can run any shit you want.. Keep up the good work, awesome content. Skål !

[@Stermy57HW]

Everyone looking forward to Intel 10th gen. We prefer to see another retrospective hardware from phil! Good work

[@ghost-jesus]

Looking forward to next AMD CPUs as Intel management engine kinda ruins Intel.

[@Claymireko]

I have seen NONE of those 10th gen reviews, but this video i couldnt pass up

[@kaisatsu]

Im a simple guy. Phil uploaded new video. I clicked without 2nd thought.

[@philscomputerlab]

Thank you!

[@mytube9182]

A main FX-8350 BE user here in 2022. I only play retro games (still on R9 270x GPU now), this 10+ years old PC of mine still never gives me a sluggish feeling.

[@Atari8man2011]

Amd fx 8350 was a great buy in 2012 and I bought 2 of them and like Phil said you can still game on them with many new titles. awesome video Phil like always !

[@philscomputerlab]

Couldn't agree more!

[@Sonlirain]

Yeah those CPUs are a meme. At launch even dual core i3's beat them outright at gaming. Now the same dual core i3's wheeze and drop frames in Witcher 3 while higher core count FXes go "Lawl" and keep going. Games becoming increasingly multi threaded gave those CPUs a new breath of life while the dual core i3's that were easily on par or superior at the time quickly became almost totally obsolete. Some games even refuse to launch on a dual core now or become very buggy (The Division **Cough**) when ran on one.

[@smulGIANT]

I still remember telling my friend in 2015 that amd was gonna make a 32core cpu from a rumor I heard he didn't believe me he was a Intel fanboy

[@zakiirfan7224]

@@smulGIANT probably they gonna do it with Ryzen 11 or something, but uf i recall correctly Threadripper is already done that

[@nikolygtx8848]

Well i3 have 2 cores 4 threads that its why , but 8350 cant get near my old i5 4570, and using 3300x now i can't believe that amd made bit more fps compared to 10100 , 100$ savings and more L3

[@jjb2962]

Computer user: lets buy a octacore. That will be fast. Game developer: lets only use 1 core as long as possible.

[@nikolygtx8848]

@@jjb2962 lol its using 2 cores like 10 years

[@nrg753]

My old i7 3930k from 2011 is a bit like this CPU, 6 cores, 12 threads, quad channel DDR3, overclocks easily, and it still runs what I need it to in 2020!

[@HD-dp1pr]

There is a 8c 16th cpu on x79 u may want to upgrade to it soon. It's called the 1680v2

[@drumsmoker731]

Yes, great processor that still holds up today BUT it was launched at $600 whereas the 8350 was $200!

[@georgemcdonough4075]

I still use mine daily and it holds its own on new games just fine.

[@drumsmoker731]

As todays games are optimized for multi threaded CPUs, the FX-8350 pulls away in longevity compared to many direct competitors of its time. Let's not forget, this one was only 200 bucks at launch. But todays used price is often totally unrealistic.

[@doltBmB]

fun fact: this is the last cpu made without a hardware backdoor

[@ulisesroman7259]

Sources?

[@PhunkBustA]

​@@ulisesroman7259 i wanna guess hes talking about intel management engine and amd's equivalent "TrustZone"

[@sicktedrinski2457]

Don't forget the A series.

[@YorHighness]

Intel only.

[@snortymcgout]

That might explain the high prices in the used market....

[@johnwiesen4440]

I am using the FX-8350 on a Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 my G.Skill memory is running 2400 MHz and a voltage of 1.650v, and my spare AMD AM4 CPU cooler from my Ryzen 7 2700x CPU

[@nihadasadli2642]

I am not familiar with FX overclocking, but isn't 1.65 is too much voltage?

[@HD-dp1pr]

@@nihadasadli2642 actually 1.5 volt is the max you should use for cpu overclocking but isn't that 1.65 volts on his ram

[@cbaha4985]

I use this with a GTX 1050 ti 4gb and it has never failed to serve me on modern games

[@oceanbytez847]

i have a similar build but jedi fallen order had some issues in the intro. I had to tweek like hell to get through intro without a CTD. I think in the end it was something odd about how the GPU handled it. OCing fixed it (i alternate between an OC profile and stock depending on how stable games are).

[@jp-ny2pd]

My FX8350 is still going strong as my work dev rig. It's gone through a couple graphics card. Currently has an inexpensive Nvidia 1070 in it. It's still quite respectable in a lot of workloads for such an old machine.

Everyone told me i was mad for getting this over the i5 3570. Paired with a 1070 rocking all new games no problem at all. Eight cores FTW!~

[@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka]

i5 so much better ! And it doesn't have 8 cores but 4 modules with 2 cores in each which decrease performance!

@@mikcnmvedmsfonoteka it's something like my q8400 before it with slaped together two 2 duos. It get's the job done. Cherio

[@BRNSTRM]

My fx-8350 paired with a gtx 970 still rocking hard

[@mlcomputergaming2985]

@@BRNSTRM me 8350 gtx 1660 still run warzone 1080p 100fps plus

[@stamasd8500]

I still have in my main desktop its slightly bigger brother, the FX-8370 (the main difference is a slightly higher turbo frequency, but otherwise practically identical) coupled with a Radeon HD7970. It does everything I need - and though I have been tempted to upgrade - especially to a Ryzen- I cannot justify spending the money because the old beast is so good.

[@JavoCover]

Put new GPU, SSD. Those things you can carry to a new system in the future.

[@kronykus]

I'm running one of these in my main system. It has 32GB RAM, running Void Linux as a host/base system w 2 cores/8GB Ram, QEMU/KVM virtual machine running Windows 10 with the remaining RAM/Cores and a RTX 2070 passed through. I rarely look at fps, instead going by, can I play this game with these settings. Some games I can run wide open in 4k, some I have to drop to 1440, very rarely do I need to drop back to 1080. I want to upgrade to a threadripper, but in the meantime, this CPU has done me well over the years.

[@michaelstrongbow2336]

Piledriver! I got mine in 2013, FX-8350 still running strong on G-Skill snipers at 1866. Also my i5s are still running strong, all play Battlefront 2 at 1080p. IDK why the FX-8350 was called a "Black" addition I'm pretty sure they were all unlocked in that series. Unlike the Phenoms before. Great Video!!!

[@SeatedEquation]

Congrats on 100k subs Phil! I remember watching pc vids and finding some guy who was crazy enough to run Windows XP on a sandy bridge cpu, Keep up the Great Videos!

[@lesrogers7310]

I'm still using this CPU in my daily driver. It does everything I want so no need to upgrade.

[@raymondshort1340]

Still running my i5-3570K from 2012 and a RX 5700 XT red devil. Just about to upgrade, but it's done such a good job since then. Hands down the longest lived processor i've bought.