E8600 the fastest Core 2 Duo

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[@MarcoGPUtuber]

We ended this era of dual cores to move over to quad cores and ended up stuck on them until Ryzen. Don't trust monopolies!

[@suhukp]

And Ryzen Changed everything

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@dakata2416 It is! But I live in free and democratic Taiwan where the Internet is uncensored and we can happily mock and criticise politicians. ;)

[@elstondias9172]

It won't be long when in the near future he'll be benchmarking a 6 core which would be outdated .

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@elstondias9172 Sounds like it's time for a Phenom II x6 video!

[@Rod_Nyssen]

@Marco, We can't! Phil doesn't tested the Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6400+, it called "THE BOSS" by old AMD Fans and push it to his limits. Then we move on! :) I talking here 4GHz with a AM2 CPU!!! B)

[@dhgodzilla1]

I paid 400$ for my Core 2 Quad 9650 Extreme back in 09 & it wasn't a waste. I used that computer until 2 years ago & it still runs today. That Core 2 Quad system I ended up throwing an RX 480 8gb in it, even though the Motherboard could only handle 4Gigs of RAM it works well.

[@philscomputerlab]

Agreed, many games run well on a Q9650!

[@xentiment6581]

Man with fsb oc and unlocked multiplier with good board and cooler you could really milk c2e for all they were worth

[@T3hBeowulf]

That realization of how life gets in front of some hobbies... This is the processor in my current Gaming PC... Paired with a GTX 460 and dual-booting Win7/Win XP. I so rarely even have much time to turn it on these days. Great video and promising collection of titles that still run on this. Thank you!

[@nonax3662]

I was thinking the same, but luckily my system is one year newer (i5 5200). But I guess it won't be long before Phil builds a "retro" system similar to my gear :p

[@noth606]

Michael A Berry hehe I'm about to build a "new" retro gaming rig with an E8600, on an ASUS BLITZ motherboard with an X1900XTX and X-Fi Fatality, Corsair Ram and corsair sealed liquid cooling. That's to be a counterpart to my FX-60 AMD AGP rig which I even have a HD3850AGP for, but I have quite a few rigs in that kind of class, from Athlon XP Barton at 2133MHz to P4 at 3400MHz all top of the line stuff down to the ram and sound. If you start buying things when you see them cheap on a local site you can build up a collection of really cool stuff over time

[@armorgeddon]

To be fair, depending on the genre(s) you're into you, you didn't miss anything and you can already play the best games.

[@slckb0y65]

@@noth606 used one @4.5ghz paired with a EP45T-UD3P and a 750ti with a X-fi titanium on top, was a pretty darn good build already, but then upgraded to a Q9650@4ghz paired with a 960. totally overkill for any XP era games but it's pretty nice to have the option to use 2k/4k oversampling.

[@mrmerlin6287]

Your comment is 3 years old and I just read it. I hope you still have the machine. It sounds really similar to one I've built and still treasure... even though it can't run modern games.

[@merlingt1]

I'm still rocking my Q6600 G0 stepping. Overclocking was a lot more fun back then.

[@AshtonCoolman]

That's great...but you need to upgrade. A mere Ryzen 3 3300X will melt your brain with its performance.

[@nap8187]

@@AshtonCoolman It could be a side machine for him or be suitable for his needs still. For example I'm on a decade old Xeon sandybridge CPU and it does me fine.

[@someboringperson9359]

@@AshtonCoolman I upgraded from q6600 to q9550 just two days ago because i got hd 7870 gpu. All I can say is that it does the job for my needs.

[@ayuchanayuko]

Q6600 with 8GB DDR3 at work for still graphics and printing press work. Perfect, but huge boost from Core. 2 Duo. The DDR3 also makes it easier to overclock 2500k/rx570/12GB at home for games and some video

[@someboringperson9359]

@@ayuchanayuko Dude, you should really upgrade to atleast q9400, trust me, its alot newer and and FSB is higher, hence, it will really take advantage of your DDR3 ram. Also, overclock would give it even more boost! P.S Never mind, didnt see that you have other rig which is actually your daily driver. But, still nonetheless, I just want to give advices :)

[@willwill2548]

Thank you! It’s always a pleasure to see your channel. 4K production, curious hardware, old gadgets, great stuff!

[@BillAE91]

I used a core 2 duo 4300 at the time insanely overclocked at 3.00 GHz, from 1.8. I was stunned with the overclocking capacity these processors had. I didn't like vista I remember at the time, and used to run xp up until windows 7 came out. I couldn't run crysis well at the time, but played the hell out of Oblivion and fallout 3!! Good times!!

[@danielberrett2179]

Philday is my favorite day of the week.

[@fer2lance]

Hello Phil; I have just built a new Core 2 duo retro gaming pc with an E7400 and a radeon HD 4890 under Windows XP and it is awesome. Thanks a lot for your top job, can't wait until next Friday. Best Regards from France :)

[@BitsAndTips]

👍👍👍 One of the best Intel's CPU series, great memories! Now my C2D E8400 was replaced by a Xeon X5460, a second PC just in case. Cheers!

[@rs2klee]

loving all the old retro builds and brought back some good memories of them, In this video I also dug out my 3.33 duo and installed it in my 775 board that was in a optiplex SSF " now sitting on my desk " with an AMD 7750 80gb sata drive. Also been testing out cpu-z benchmarks to see how much different the scores are, its been fun. Thanks for the videos and subbed ;-)

[@PhAyzoN]

I still use an X-Fi Titanium in my main PC to this day. Amazing card!

[@jeudaz]

Great to see fellow enthusiast discussing on these old tech. Had a few of these 775 in my possession. Itx board, great fun with e8400, e8600, q9300, q9650.

[@JohnSmith-iu8cj]

Great content 👍 I was using a dell Optiplex 760 SFF with a E8400 recently. A great silent machine running very smooth under XP

[@keithmiller9665]

Thanks for the Snappy Driver tip, wasn’t aware of it.

[@PaulinesPastimes]

Very timely that you should make this video. I have a spare core 2 duo and want to use it to build a retro XP machine for my younger sister to get her to look at some of her old games. Looks like I will be shopping for a board and various cards. Great info as usual. Cheers.

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

Thank you for this cool channel. I will never again throw away computer hardware. Even checked all my basement etc. for old parts so I can do something with em, even if its just for some display stuff.

[@billj5645]

In about 2008 I built a computer for Autocad using an E8600. Most apps back then only used one core so you wanted the fastest cores you could get. Mine was easy to overclock to 4 GHz using an air cooler, I recall that people could get them to 7GHz using liquid nitrogen. I bought a Q9400 to use at home and found that I could overclock it to 3.8GHz or more so there wasn't much advantage to the E8600. I still use the Q9400 all day every day.

[@stevetalon7888]

I have an E8400 I use to play some old XP games. I put windows 10 on it once and it still holds pretty well according to today’s standards, considering how old it is.

[@user-kd4pg8hu7t]

I've never expected that an 11-year old CPU would hold up so well.

[@Nordlicht05]

had an amd 350 laptop and it was too slow for even office things. Got an e8400 with win 10 and its blistering faster. Both had the same SSD build in.

[@BlueSkyYGO]

Good instruction set SSE3S and SSE4.1 i think

[@sebastianebert4295]

6 MB of Cache, that's why the better C2D are so good. E8600 was a bit faster, but cost much more. And all C2D could be easily overclocked using FSB when having the right chipset. I'm still impressed how good it works with a Samsung 850 EVO SSD. But after 6+ months Win 8.1 Pro got way slower over time...the curse of using Windows, I guess. It's not much difference as using the WDC Black WD1002FAEX HDD, but that needs a whopping 8 watts of power alone. That's nearly the idle usage of a brand new Desktop PC, lol. SSD needs max. 2 watts, mostly 0.x watts.

[@BlueSkyYGO]

@@sebastianebert4295 Windows 8 sucks xD 8.1 is better but still having bugs...

[@Hsfgd08]

Yes, very impressive videos Phil 👍👀

[@theepicemoji5602]

Great video Phil, congrats on reaching 100K Subs, keep up the good work

[@philscomputerlab]

Thanks, you too!

[@crispchaos]

Seeing you play chaos theory and NFSU2 brought back some good old memories! Chaos theory was sooooo fun playing online.

[@thecondor9744]

Ah the e8600 one of my favorite chips. With normal ddr2 at 800mhz you can easily reach 4ghz without touching the ram. i love this chip but, if you don't overclock it, the e8500 costs less and performs similarly. Speaking of E8500, in 2008, I used it overclocked at 4ghz with 4GB of DDR2 ram (clocked at 840ish mhz) and a 9600GT with 1GB of Vram. Good times. Thank you for reviewing this chip and yes, if you can, it would be nice to see how the dual core xeon performs.

[@ronnie3626]

I achieved 4.3GHz with the E8500 at 1.33 volts. I think the cheap mobo limited the fsb clockk but now I own a Asus P5k Deluxe with P35 chipset and the E8600 with higher multiplier and will try overclocking again soon :P

[@PierreVonStaines]

Congratulations on passing 100K subscribers Phil! 👍

[@philscomputerlab]

Thank you so much 😀

[@remasteredretropcgames3312]

@@philscomputerlab With 4 cores and games from that era you will get context switching without some windows thread scheduler knowledge applied. Its not always as simple as it has higher clocks so it be faster yo. That and you can test a game from 2014 that still doesn't use SSE3 even on a ryzen CPU. Its on my channel. What you cover is even more relevant to this but of information you seem to ignore. Ill legit underclock my cpu put each game on 1 thread and objectively measure what spoofing does. You clearly cant be bothered.

[@remasteredretropcgames3312]

@@philscomputerlab Put the OS exclusively as possible on 2 cores and if the game uses 2 threads force it to its own resource pool. That extra clockrate is going to basically cancel out once you are processing the background tasks on its own specific hardware. Its not rocket science.

[@remasteredretropcgames3312]

@@philscomputerlab I mean isnt this channel about education? No?

[@smbu]

Congrats on over 100k subs! I built my first PC since 2001ish in 2007. Went with the Q6600 and overclocked it to over 3ghz. Initially picked up the 8600GT to save some money until I upgraded to the GTX 260 Core 216 in 2008. I still have the Motherboard and CPU(Gigabyte P35-DS4 and Q6600) lying around. I occasionally use the 8600GT as well to check for a boot screen. My old X79 Extreme6 didn't like the Asus GTX980 I bought and wouldn't boot with it. When I swapped in the 8600GT it booted up perfectly fine. Luckily was able to swap the card for something else.

[@marcelocorpucci1742]

Great video, as usual! I'd really love to see a video about your collection, Phil. Something like Retrohardware does in his channel. I'm pretty sure you have a incredible collection, too! Cheers from Argentina!

[@rmcf1902cr7]

Back in 2008 I built my first computer. I was 15 years old and decided for an E8400 instead of a Q6600 for two reasons: Overclocking (which I never ended up doing, even though I imported from the USA a DFI P35-T2RS motherboard for that very same reason) and the fact that 2 cores were enough back in the day. I used that computer for nearly a decade, paired with a lovely XFX 8800 GT 512MB that kicked the bucket after 3 years. I'm still in love with that PC and has its own place at home. To this day I am trying to snag a cheap Antec Nine Hundred (like I used to have) online to build a retro PC on. Couldn't take mine since I moved to a different country a couple of years ago. Awesome video, Phil, keep up the good work!

[@bitelaserkhalif]

Q6600 lacks sse 4.1 as well

[@michaeltai1810]

I actually just built an XP machine with this very CPU because of the price. I cleaned and repasted a GTX 285 to use with it since my build goal was to use period accurate parts from 2008-2009 (Minus power supply, of course)

[@FunkCakes]

Nice to see you with another video. I always seem to await your next video. Maybe throw in some videos with your favourite titles and and bit of a comparison of some core 2 duo , core 2 quad , fx6300 and 8 core Xeon or something. Or perhaps some emulation titles or some decent second hand bargains before tax time rocks up 👍

[@chanakasat1]

Also the heart of my XP rig with 750Ti 👌 I actually replaced 9550 with this one and got better results! 😊

[@Yellowswift3]

I thoroughly enjoyed watching this the whole way through, good work. :) I was using an AMD 4400+ CPU in that year though later in Q4 of 2008, I made the switch to the Q6600. Amazing CPU.

[@philscomputerlab]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@DeViLzzz2006]

Good to be back watching PhilsComputerLab. In regards to this video I had upgraded to a Q6600 going from a Core 2 Duo E6300. I guess though I got another cpu to look at getting as it would be nice to have the fastest one can get for gaming with that Core 2 Duo E8600. My son's first pc is still going along strong and so yeah it's worth spending $10 US and the cheap shipping on and heck on my first order from there I will get a discount. Going to save that though and get this cpu with a big order from aliexpress.

[@Agoz8375]

This cpu is still strong. I use this for office and some old games 2006-2015 and it works fine with the geforce gt 430

[@akhileshb_]

exactly

[@jedrula77]

On a slightly weaker CPU E8400 3GHz and a motherboard with G45 from recovery after replacing capacitors, I built a very pleasant to use PC to the Internet on the TV instead of a monitor. With SSD, 4GB RAM, RADEON 3550 graphics card with HDMI, you can even play World Of Tanks xD KZbin max 1440p or 720p 60 fps.

[@jagtan13]

I scored a dumpster pc with ddr 800mhz memory. Threw a $20 dollar ssd and maxed out the ram with this cpu. Does ok with browsing. I placed a gt1030 that I had and it can game somewhat reasonably (TF2, vr chat, csgo, dota). Later added a core 2 quad and it realy lit up.

[@gamesandglory1648]

they also undervolt really well, took my e7500 from 1.285v down to 1.150 with an overclock to 3.3

[@raymondsims537]

Love to see a best of year vid for PC's from 2000 to 2010

[@Stefan.Stefanov]

I had C2D E7500 and I was happy back in the days :)

[@sebastianebert4295]

First thanks for all your videos Phil! It brings back valuable memories, refreshes my english, gives us more tools to play with and new options like with GPU FastVID, WDM vs. VXD drivers, Level Cache disabler for DOS, dgVoodoo2, Snappy Driver Installer, Easy2Boot, Gotek Floppy Emulator and even ISA Sound Card Initializer...wow, so much good stuff here in the channel! Thanks also for mentioning RAM timings, although I do know pretty much about hardware, repairing and software I wasn't aware of this timings for many years, thought 1600 MHz is always better than 1333 MHz and similar. DOSBox ECE is nice, but real hardware is better, ofc. I still have 2x MPU-401 compatible Miro Sound cards, had to be initialized under Windows 3.x or 9x, before DOS or Linux can use it, but one calls PnP, lol and another one w/o "PnP", very great cards for Tie Fighter and all the General MIDI and Roland sound stuff. A pal also has a Roland daughterboard for ISA. I have to try the Sound Card Initializer in a Legend QDI Pentium III Board with Pentium 700 100 MHz or 1000B 133 MHz CPU, that Board has ISA and PCI Slots. Only a very few Pentium 4 and some AMD Athlon boards have ISA, but many Pentium III Boards have. One could go for the 1.4 GHz Tualatin, ofc. Great that you found out, that ISA some times is even faster than PCI, like the 1st PCIe was slower and not that reliable like the older AGP Pro Port. It's great to still see people around having fun with computer parts and retro gaming. I started with a custom Sinclair ZX Spectrum micro computer mod with 3x 800 KB Floppies in a selfmade tower 30 years ago and had maybe 30-40 PCs in my lifetime yet, mostly used parts and it was so much fun back in the days where you could actually see every single new hardware was an improvement. Do you know, that dgVoodoo2 can not only be used as a 3Dfx glide wrapper or for real Geforce 4 Ti/FX shadows (Splinter Cell), but also for having maxed out resolution, FSAA and Mipmapping on older game engines? Use 1080p when only 1024x768 was usable from the game engine. You have to play NFS 6 HP2 with it, it makes a big difference on 1080 maxed out, not for bitmaps, but for rendered stuff. Yeah I love Far Cry, never got the 64 Bit mod with high distance working, tho. This Far Cry 1, Crysis I plus Maximum Edition are my all time favs, next to Just Cause 1. It's endless freedom. Tomb Raider Dagger of Xian is a nice fan remade with awesome graphics for a fan-based game, very professional. The E8400 was the cheaper brother of the 8600. You can even "overclock" it using the FSB, the E8400 can run at 4.0-4.2 instead of 3.0 GHz easily and can even be undervolted, using some chipsets like EP35 or EP45. Btw, CPUGenie and RMClock at least can change normal frequency, throttle and undervoltage in Windows on the fly, without the need of the BIOS. Undervolting to 1.0 or 0.95 V using normal FSB and clock frequency also makes it run very cool. I thought about swapping it with an efficient Xeon E5450 if not going for a high performance X model maybe even topping the QX9770, but an i5-2400 is faster and also cheap and retro friendly. My setup: C2D E8400 3.0 GHz, Gigabyte EP45-DS3LR, 7 gigs of mixed RAM. Tried to reball one defective 2 Gig RAM module, but wasn't lucky. Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS or HDMI sound. Btw. the Soundblaster card can use newer I think EAX 4 drivers than it was shipped with, having support for newer EAX games. Nvidia GT 1030 2 GB (old version with GDDR5). GPU+CPU passive with big heatpipes, put a 12 cm fan between the HDD cage and the mainboard cooling everything perfectly silent. My older Asus P4P800SE Pentium 4 board died. That's why I then used a 17 watts ATI 4550 and now 30 watts Nvidia GT 1030 GDDR5, it's very cool, energy efficient and enough for old games. WDC Black WD1002FAEX (one of the last and fastest 512 B Cluster HDDs from the WinXP era, which had no issues with data loss like the new 4096 B advanced formatted cluster HDDs on WinXP w/o the software fix). Samsung 850 EVO SSD to make it lightning fast and I think all 2+ Core CPUs are worth running an SSD. Also the price is the same 4 years later, must be good hardware. Win 8.1 Pro, because some day some games needed Win 7+. Back in 2008 I still used a Pentium 4 3200 S478 with Win XP, until it died because of the small fan. Btw., when an HDD gets some little weak/bad sectors, you can use the free HDAT2 tool alone or from UBCD or Hiren's Boot CD/DVD or the HDD Regenerator also does the same. Yeah I also had issues booting, when some USB drives are hooked up, had to disable them. Especially my Gigabyte Board also seems to have issues booting a normal USB Stick sometimes, then you have to completely pull out the AC plug or turn off the switch for some secs, normal ACPI shutdown is not enough for some reason. I now use an old rooted Android phone with DriveDroid app to boot the PCs directly from iso files...the cheaper and a bit slower way as using an Iodd 2531 virtual drive emulator with SSD, but quite fast compared to make USB Sticks and older DVD drive speeds. Nearly noone had those 72x CD drives back in the days. I had a very reliable and fast Teac CD-540e, but Flash memory nowadays is way faster. Easy2Boot on an USB-SSD should be very fast, too, haven't tried it yet. A similar Gigabyte Board of a mate, which has the QX9770 C2D Extreme wasn't able to boot an original bought Win 10 Home USB Stick, because of PMAP, lol. Had to copy it to another stick. I prefer Win 8.1 x86 for the newer games to not run into upgrade issues, turned off auto update and only use the monthly winfuture delta updatepacks in the middle of every month. The Android Web Alert app tells me when there's an update on the sites I need to check, saves some valueable time. I also used the 2 Sereby AIO runtimes setup at first installation, to make .NET, Java and all the stuff install fast, also saves some time. I always use GPartEd Live now for formatting, because it's more reliable, also when using Linux computers. Because Windows and even Acronis and Paragon don't see Ext4 partitions, f.e. GPartEd sees everything and you won't accidentally format a drive with a used partition then. It also can handle MBR/GPT easily. Strange is, some framerate locked games run with more FPS than 30 or 60 using WINE under Linux or maybe Batocera Plus, which now also has WINE included. Yeah I think using dgVoodoo should make NFS Underground playable even in 1080 resolution. I tried NFS 6 HP2 and it worked well. Here's a list of what runs fine using dgVoodoo2 and it's really easy and fast to use. Now every single cheap GPU can play old games at max. res and details, filters on 60+ FPS :) dege.freeweb.hu/Gallery/DXGamesGallery.html Oh wait, if you want max. performance, you can disable the c states and power management in the BIOS. Ofc. it eats way more power then. The Intel Core technology is using more halt states then clocking around. An E8400 mainly only does 2.0 and 3.0 GHz (multiplier 6 and 9) and much halt states in between, if you don't disable it in the BIOS. I've seen throttling under Windows and also RecalBox / Batocera, although it runs performance governor. This is because of the c and halt states, not only p states. You might also disable Hyperthreading and maybe even use Process Lasso Pro to assign everything else to other cores and the game, a web browser, rendering process or 7zip/winrar to only 1 physical core to gain 5-10 % more performance for free. It saves the settings compared to windows task manager and it's easy to tell all other processes to use low priority. Look for X-Plane micro stuttering on youtube, there's an explanation of frame drops due to priority of processes, but they don't explain the c-states BIOS settings. He yeah the Midnight racing series and Saints Row have very crappy controls on keyboard/mouse, guess you need a gamepad for those. Yeah I remember Crysis 1 and Maximum ran quite well also on even older Pentium 4 Prescott 3200 MHz with ATI 9800 SE soft modded to Pro. It really must be the multi processors and hyper threading which Crysis don't like, but a high clocked 1 core CPU at best performance. You definitely have to check out disabling c-stated, thermal monitor 2 and use Process Lasso Pro to de-priorize everything else on all other cores but Core 0/1 using low priority, but using only Crysis on 1 core with high priority w/o using HT. Select all but the game and set priority to low and other CPU cores. Close some processes, which aren't needed. Maybe even restart once before playing if on low RAM. Maybe even disable all but 1 core in the BIOS, dunno. Crysis 1 is something special. It's similar to the fact you disable RS232/LPT if not using it, saves some IRQ times. Maybe even don't use extra PCI cards, dunno, it all needs IRQ times. I would also put in an extra fan, because the CPU/GPU or even chipset may thermal throttle when it gets hot. That's what MacBooks or CPUs with tiny boxed coolers do all the time. HDMI vs. VGA: 1st time I saw HDMI I thought what's that...everything is cold blue white instead of more natural yellow/red white. I think the standard settings for RGB look better than HDMI, tbh and even 1080p on a 32 " TV works well with a short thick good shielded RGB cable with 2 ferrit cores on it, no ghost shadow like with the cheap cables. There's plenty 40 GB Intel SSDs in cheap 2nd hand industry PCs which work perfectly fine, btw. They also ran long time using WinXP, so TRIM, garbage collection, wear leveling mostly is no issue there. This nice water pearl effect in Crysis is because of DX 10. I also saw it with DX 9 graphics card using a soft DX 10 mod for it. Although NFS U2 also has this effect using pure DX 9. It would be great if you could show an AMD APU or Pentium J4105/J5005 or G4600. Maybe some day you get those somewhere. Thanks again for all the videos!

[@joey_after_midnight]

Great Video.. I really wish you had a newbie side channel to explain things like EAX, Anisotropic filtering, Antialiasing, FPS, Pipelines and all the options for audio and video. I have vague ideas of what they are.. but a Rosetta stone for those of us without a lot of experience would be very helpful. Describing how you do the installs and why, are superb. Explaining the problems and workarounds.. like the USB stick preventing booting is AWESOME.. I've had the same problems with Intel 865 motherboards.

[@philscomputerlab]

That could be something for a Tuesday bonus video!

[@kaloy066]

ahhh... my system a long time ago, this is some nostalgia.

[@Saintbow]

Intel: All you need is 2 cores for gaming! Amd: We made a triple core! Intel: All you need is 4 cores for gaming! Amd: Say hello to Ryzen! Intel: You know...maybe we should follow those AMD bastards with multi-core cpu's for gaming and charge mortgage payments for them instead of their reasonable prices? Let's Dew It! Amd: 4 Core 3300X $120 Gaming cpu! Intel: We hate you....

[@TheOliveboy93]

Shiiii... today you can still comfortably game on a 2nd and 3rd gen i5 & i7

[@BlueSkyYGO]

4c 8t premium price, unlocked multiplier :3

[@cdyjkr]

@@TheOliveboy93 Used prices are still super high for that reason, hope it will drop soon since i have a lot of DDR3 sticks laying around i could use with 2nd or 3rd gen i7.

[@ZDY66666]

This is a biased representation of facts 😂. Let's just ignore AMD's FX days eh? 🤫🤐😬

[@Wushu-viking]

In theory, the best "Gaming" CPU will always be a single core(and thread). You don't get the latancy, that is inevetable, when you have the processing split though multiple threads and cores. But again, the latency is something we humans are too slow to notice, so when we need the processing power, it is for now, the (only) way to go. To have "enough" processing power on one core, would require insane high frequency compared to multi core. And we know that 5 GHz is very dificult to top over on these types of Silicon used. We topped 5 GHz with Sandy Bridge back in 2011 (I'm not talking insane overvolting/ LN2 Cooling solutions)

[@osgrov]

Ahh, my favorite Intel CPU from the good old XP-days. :) I still have my E8600 which I got when it was released, coupled with an ATI 3870 which isn't the best but it still works. It ran really well for quite a few years, and it did overclock very well. I ran mine at 4.0GHz all day long with zero issues, and could push it to 4.2-something but that did run a bit too hot as I recall. I didn't upgrade until Ivy Bridge came out, got a 3570K with a GTX 680. That was quite an upgrade! Fun blast from the past, thanks for the excellent video (as always I might add).

[@eirinym]

I'm pretty sure the 8600 was the processor I had in my system for almost 10 years. I definitely overclocked it, I was certainly feeling the limitations with it for some time. 😂

[@MultiWirth]

I overclocked my E8400 to 3,6Ghz back then but then switched to a q6600 overclocked to 3ghz until the end of 2017 when i built my amd am4 machine which saw a few upgrades since then. Latest upgrade was from Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 9 3900x simply awesome.

[@ezg8448]

Great Vid! Consider doing running these platforms vs. Intel IGPs, that might be an interesting video.

[@kirandeepmaan6304]

I was searching for it few days back and got your video notification wow nice work dude, on my side it cost $10 only worth for entry level pc

[@greggriesing3776]

love that chip. it swaps out with my g9650, great thing about the 8600 is if your mobo supports overclocking set the FSB to 400 and bam! nice easy 4.0 ghz dual core.

[@annihilatorg]

I had a C2D e8400 based computer back in the day running server 2k8. It was such a slim OS that just got the F out of the way, unlike Vista which fought you every inch. You had to turn on specific services like Audio or the Enhanced User Experience. It was an AMAZING time in computing and makes me yearn to rebuild a system like that again.

[@MasterDrood]

Hi Phill great video, I am actually building a retro kind of XP with an E8400 and possibly dual 9600gt.

[@pkf4124]

I have a machine with that set up, works really well.

[@khyypio]

Congratulations on your 100k sub achievement by the way, quite a milestone! Have you planned any special episode or celebratory video? :D

[@ritiksaini778]

Amazing job bro

[@philscomputerlab]

Thank you so much 😀

[@zungalele]

Great processor, made it difficult to decide when to switch to a Quad core. Still using in my store.

[@larryladeroute971]

I found that helpful. I am using a gtx295 with my e8600. I had considered the 750ti but the 295 works. I have been considering a 960 to go in my q9550 build so that was cool as well. I have picked up a couple of 1920x1200 monitors for these builds. They are getting tough to find. That resolution would be a nice addition in the benchmarks.

[@warrax111]

dude, try to get GTX 650 ti. GTX295 is SO unneficient card, that you are paying like $30 more every year on power consumption. Also DX11 support is from 400 series. You get even more spectrum of games. Look at this graph. Your card draws 55W in idle!!! www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti/25.html Modern cards draw like 5-15W in idle. And have same or better performance. Just get rid of that behemoth, you are paying price of 650ti twice over years for power electricity bill. 650 ti draws around 5W in idle. Or just get 750ti. Should have performance about that GTX 295, but draws 45W in gaming in average, while your card about 200W for same performance. www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-gtx-460-cyclone-oc-1-gb/8.html (750ti is about 40-50% faster than GTX 460... so try to count it from graphs, you have comparsion with GTX 295 there) Not to mention, that you cool 750ti/650ti easily, without any noise.

[@oscarc6210]

Nice build! I love these three graphic cards. On 15:11 I believe this is Colin McRae 3 or 4... ;)

[@jtqthetieman]

I love seeing all these games run with all the correct reflections and visual effects working correctly.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

When this processor was released, people were still under the impression that multi-core was a stop-gap fad and that 10 GHz single core CPUs would still be a reality. Hence you had a majority (though only slightly, I recall) of recommendations going with the dual core because they felt the lower clock of the quad core would hurt it over time. Of course, the exact opposite happened, which was guessable at the time, but people just didn't want to face the reality of the power/thermal wall which turned clock speed gains from exponential to incremental.

[@catriona_drummond]

Well I am still waiting for those Gallium-Arsenide chips that they promised us back then. It's not like they didn't have ideas to overcome the temal wall by using different materials. Just nothing came out of it. So, everything is foreseeable 10 years later.

[@h2oaddict28]

That's not the case, by the time these were released we had already seen quite a few over the years and the results were clear. Multi core was the future. When it comes to deciding between these two you'd be better of with the dual core, and then upgrade to something far better like lynnfield. I'd rather wait for a real quad core processor than two dual cores glued together.

[@mahin0185]

Still in 2020 i am using it with a amd r7 260x and 8gb 1333mHz ram. I don't game but I use it for AutoCad and light room and light gaming like bad north. Its still usable

[@chillhour6155]

Hence why Crysis can still be a bitch to run in some cases

[@eclipsegst9419]

clock speed is still king for gaming though. and games still put almost their entire load on one core. imho a quad core with hyperthreading is the current best balance of price and performance. i read a chart somewhere and it said that over half of active gamers have 4 threads or less. game companies know that and want to sell games. so we wont be using 16 cores for gaming anytime soon despite the predictions of AMD fanboys.

[@PinkFloydFreak55]

I loved my E8400.... ended up swapping it out for an "upgrade" which was a Q6600 and used that until roughly 2013....

[@vladdimitrov819]

Great video! I built a Windows XP retro gaming PC with this CPU and an GTX 8800, 4 gigs of DDR2 and a Audigy EAX sound card. Runs everything from the early to late 2000s at 85 fps on a 19inch CRT. Its one of my favorite projects I did. It's blazing fast for Windows XP even at stock speeds. I think I spent a little over $130 on all of those parts from local Facebook Marketplace ads and a couple peripherals off of Ebay.

[@UncommonKnowledge587]

Back in 2008 I was rocking a Sempron single core at 1.8GHz. It was a good runner.

[@Centuria-lj9tq]

Sehr informativ. Vielen Dank dafür. Ich finde die alten CPU´s immer noch gut und nutze sie täglich.

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

Yep, when my last socket a system seemed like it was dying at one point i was finally compelled and able to get helped to get a newer pc going, and at the time i started with an e6300; but with dead space on pc needing a quad, i saw the proverbial writing on the wall and since i had a first run 680i board, i picked up a q6600 once it was affordable. That was my main pc for the best part of a literal decade.

[@sebastianebert4295]

I got an E6300 PC some years ago for 20 bucks and the 1st thing I swapped was the CPU...put an E6600 in it for 10 bucks with double the amount of Cache and it's a big difference, 4 instead of only 2 MB L2 Cache. For most of the processes, the E6600 performs the same as the Q6600. Only some processes back in the day used multi core, maybe the Web Browser, 7z, WinRAR, Video Rendering stuff, but not much software and games. Now the things change, but back in that time... I still use these E6600 and E8400 PCs for web browsing and home office, they aren't really slow even nowadays. Ofc. an Core i or Core 2/4 Extreme is a big difference, but someone invented f.e. suspend/hibernate against waiting times or use Linux.

[@BrooksyTech]

Good ol core 2 series. Original was going get a e8400 but ended up getting a q6600. Now that was great chip.

[@sebastianebert4295]

I have both E6600 and E8400, both are very fast, have quite much L2 Cache. Thought about changing it for an i5-2400, but the C2D is fast enough, lol, so I only swapped the GPU.

[@KokoroKatsura]

had E8400, aged like milk, fast went to HEDT in late 2o14

[@someboringperson9359]

@@sebastianebert4295 Just get some q9550 and clock it to 3.4ghz, it will be cheap and massive improvement :)

[@gamesandglory1648]

@@someboringperson9359 or, if their motherboard supports it, the x5450 lga with lga 771 to 775 mod is a good option

[@someboringperson9359]

@@gamesandglory1648 Actually I wanted to say that, but 771 mod for some people can be confusing, hence I just say to them to get some good ass C2Q Q9xxx cpu

[@thomasschraubt7497]

I was on the E8400 overclocked to 4GHz for quite a while. Back then it was so much snappier in Windows when compared to the quadcores. I was sad to leave it behind when games started to support quadcores better and better.

[@hardwarecollector2097]

Nice video. Iam not very into overclocking, so back in the old days i bought a Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 with was clocked at 3 ghz. The Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 would have been slower in crysis and other games and was more expensive.

[@warrax111]

i've got Q6600 and overclocked it to 3.4 ghz. Have it till now, but downclocked it to 3 ghz , because of age of components (over 10 years). Now it doesnt have sense, as all socket 775 CPUs are cheap, get always e5450 for $20, or L5430 (low tdp 50W variant) if you dont want overclock, and have bad cooling. Q9650 stock equals about 3.3-3.5 Ghz Q6600. Tested it. Power consumption is even better than Q6600 at stock 2.4 ghz speed.

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Phil, I really enjoyed the video, I still have a C2DE8600 & a C2Q9650 I also have a C2DE7500 plus some LGA775 M/Bs & DDR2 800 & 667, GPUs that are XP compatible to play with will be a Gainward GTX460GS-GLH, EVGA GTX760SC 4GB, plus from Gigabyte a GTX260SOC, GTX750 2GB, GTX680SOC-Windforce5, I'm 'Playing' with some newer Intel LGA1156/55 at the moment but will get back to LGA775 at some stage, for loading XP-SP3 & Vista I have DVDs + Sata & IDE DVD Drives, a bit slower than USB but no mucking around with BIOS settings

[@philscomputerlab]

Great selection of parts!

[@Obie327]

I just snagged a freebie Tower with a P45/DDR2(4 gigs)/E8600/GTX 660. I can't wait to set this working system up!

[@ElNeroDiablo]

I was running XP Pro SP2 as my daily-driver OS until mid-2011, though I had mucked around with Win7 on some refurbished Dell Optiplex systems over 2009/2010, before building an all-new i7-2600K system with Win7 Ultimate 64-bit in mid-2011. Totally skipped over Vista. Went from 3GHz HT P4 on LGA775 to 3.6GHz 4c/8T i7 with that new system, had the 2600K reliably OC'd to 4.2-4.5GHz without problems as well.

[@philscomputerlab]

I was on and off with Vista and even dual booting for ages. TV tuner wouldn't work with Vista. Printer would not work...

[@solarstrike33]

Heh, I kept using XP SP3 until January 2013.

[@Reziac]

Ha, I'm using XP-SP3 (MSDN release) as we speak. :P

[@sebastianebert4295]

Yeah this i7-2600K was _the_ Intel CPU for many years, because Core i gen. 3-7 wasn't soldered and run very hot, they saved some cents making each CPU and their boxed coolers are crap, too. It couldn't even cool a Pentium 4 Prescott S478, had 72 °C and reboots all the time. I also skipped ME and Vista, glad that I haven't seen the bugs, lol. Now I see Win 10 bugs and use 8.1 Pro instead...until 2023 at least. The older Dell Workstations are very robust, have a good cooling system and are cheaper than buying new stuff. Fujitsu, Dell, IBM/Lenovo, HP business class...tbh., I don't want anything else anymore, if buying 2nd hand. 260+ mio. PCs are trashed every year and even the old business class hardware is quite cheap, 150 bucks and you have a nice machine, change the GPU and you're done. I thought about switching to an i5-2400 at least, but the E8400 still is fast enough with a Samsung 850 EVO SSD. And when using Linux with Xfce or LXDE Desktop, it's even much faster again. So all my laptops run Linux now. But I "need" Windows for easy gaming on the desktop PC, WINE is too complicated for such a big collection of games.

[@AladimBR]

I’m using the E8600 and a 7950GT as my ultimate Win98 machine, with an audigy for sound card. The XP machine I put together uses Haswell core I5/i7 and a GXT970 or HD7970 GHZ with the X-FI. The XP machine can also work as a Win7 machine for games and apps (I can trim the SDD once in a while). Love your videos Phil, always learning something that will be useful in the future. Cheers from Brazil.

[@philscomputerlab]

Beautiful!

[@dikbozo]

i read through the comments up to the time of posting and admit I missed your link to the store you mentioned. Zoom? Xoom? I did notice one other post that asked for it too. TIA and good solid vid.

[@philscomputerlab]

www.zoom-platform.com/#home

[@dikbozo]

@@philscomputerlab Thanks again.

[@ARandomFurry]

I own the QX9650 which is the extreme edition, it is still a solid processor even thou it is over 10 years old. I mostly use the system as a HTPC / Firewall, but have toyed around with it.

[@mealot7613]

Thanks for the info on using ssd in xp. You can use steam in xp too. Just install the latest version and let it update, then delete the folder. Download steam build 26-nov 2018 (not newer) and copy it to the location where steam was installed. Naturally do not update steam ever from there.

[@leetymcleet6490]

I had an E6850, 4GB DDR2, an 8800 GT, SB Audigy 2 ZS PP and 2 WD Raptors in Raid 0. It was my first Intel based system since the Pentium 3. Athlon XP's all the way before that! A friend of mine had the exact same system, motherboard, cooler and everything, except he had the Q6600. The E6850 was slightly faster, especially overclocked, and certainly on (then) current and older games until about 1.5-2 years later when games started to take advantage of the additional cores. That system, with the exception of a graphics card upgrade, lasted me 'till 2012. Great video as always, Phil 👍

[@piecaruso97]

Socket 775, such a great platform, I hope you will also check out the pentium e6500k with its unlocked multiplier which makes it a really interesting cpu to play with

[@SimmanGodz]

I really like the Min, avg, Max graphs. They make the differences very visually obvious.

[@philscomputerlab]

Yea it's one of the few games that measures those stats!

[@josiahmoorhouse8036]

Amazing that someone who bought the Q9650 in '08 would still have a usable computer even today. The E8600? Not so much...

[@MrSmitheroons]

The E8xx line s actually holding up okay for office/browser use! (Especially if you were lucky enough to not get stuck with motherboard limited to 4GB RAM...) The cores are still fast enough that if you have few enough "hot" threads or processes, you're fine. Even then, most programs aren't designed to where they will max out your cores on a regular basis or unexpectedly. Using an older computer, you just learn to do fewer "hot" tasks at once. And yes, the Q9xx series are holding up great!!

[@h2oaddict28]

The quad cores aren't much better buddy, they haven't been useable in a very long time. The same cannot be said for what came just after, it's a pity people couldn't wait for it.

[@tadejsadar7033]

I was using e8400 for a week due to a problem with my main PC. What a nightmare experience!! Not even SSD can save this cpu. Nowadays applications and Win10 are just too "heavy" for this CPU. Back in the day it worked ok of course.

[@sebastianebert4295]

It's Win 10 which is slow as hell. Win 8.1 is way faster, but I guess 7 and XP are also way faster, not wasting so much ressources using group policies and background services, waiting for upgrades a.s.o. In 8.1 I can disable the updates, in 10 you can't do that anymore. On a not so slow Atom Z3740 Win 10 was a nightmare, Win 8.1 was fast and Xubuntu is even faster. The Win 10 OS changed everything. And even Chrome in Win 8.1 is slow as hell on an E8400, since they integrated the tool, which periodically searches for malware. I actually can't see much difference between the SSD and a WDC Black HDD opening the browser and booting Win 8.1. It started to get slower after 6+ months, when I had installed much software and the registry is full, getting more and more bloated, registering everything you use all the time. If you test or use Windows for only 6 months it's not getting so slow. And the main difference are the sluggish updates. So if you stay offline all the time, Win 10 also has to be way faster I guess. Meanwhile Linux Mint Xfce is lightning fast on the same E8400 machine using a slow 5400 RPM Laptop HDD, lol. Even the Firefox Browser is instantly open using Linux, no RAMDisk used, only standard settings. No antivirus, no unneeded background services, no group policies and updates are done in 2 mins... So it's the newer Windows versions, which get slow as hell with all the tracking and senseless logging stuff going on. Look at the WinSXS folder, lol. I disabled file history and snapshots, but it's also quite slow compared to Win XP and 7. The CPU itself is lightning fast until now. We only waste much ressources using Win 8-10 nowadays. Look at a 486 SX Laptop with maybe 33 MHz and slow HDD, Win 3.x and MS Word 5 is open instantly w/o any waiting time. I'm still impressed. Word 97/XP/2003 also was fast, 2007+ are slow as hell. Look at an i7-7700K Desktop with fast SSD, Win 10 and MS Word 2010 needs many seconds to open a simple word processor...because of many big libraries, .NET and such. The most operation systems and software are getting slower then the PCs getting faster.

[@warrax111]

Lol, that's basicaly me. I've bought Q6600 and overclocked it to 3.4 Ghz back in 2010, already as budget option. Q6600 was $100 back then, Q9650 was $200, it was too expensive. It was basicaly for same price, as i5 750, which was in generaly about 20% faster, slightly more power efficient, and could be even overclocked to 4.2 Ghz on air, while Q6600 had limit around 3.6 , Q9650 around 4 Ghz. I didn't have oportunity to change it, I was all the time on budget and didn't game a lot. For browsing and basic work, it is still enough. But recently I've switched to E5450, it is around $20, and it's basicaly Q9650. Definetly an upgrade from Q6600, if you don't want to change socket 775 platform, from any reason, search for socket 771 to 775 mod,or buy e5450 moded for socket 775 on aliexpress. The only thing, that upset me a little bit is power consumption, I recently bought watt-meter, and that overclocked Q6600 draws too much power. It was not worthy to use over years, I should switch to some 2C/4T i3 CPU, but anyway. It costed me about 200$ - $250 on power electricity over those 10 years, in those time I didnt know, how much overclocked CPU draws power, that differance is huge and it will acumulate over years. If you are building budget computer, that you want to use atleast 3-4 years, ALWAYS look for power consumption too. If you're on socket 775, always take 45 nm CPUs, and don't use socket 1366 overclocked Nehalems like i7-920, they look cheap, but they draw 100W more and 50W more in idle from same performing non-overclocked Haswells and Ivy Bridge (like 1230v2, 1230v3 etc) Also don't take those cheap e5-1650 140W TPD Xeons like Sandy Bridge on X79 LGA2011 platform, while overclock it. It looks cheap, but look at the power consumption www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-e5-1620-sandy-bridge-ep-xeon-review-4c8t-36ghz/intel-xeon-e5-1620-power-consumption/ 180W stock, almost twice as normal Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge if you overclock it, it will easily draw 250W!!! Instead of 90W (ivy bridge 1230v2) 115W (Sandy Bridge 1230v1) .

[@gunnarsandstrom8031]

I have the E8500 and the E8400 and a asus p5q deluxe works really well!

[@stevef6392]

The little Dell I use in my hobby room has an E8600! Not used for gaming though, it's just for music/video streaming and quick Internet look-ups when I'm working in there. And hey, it played this video at 1080p/60! It runs Win10 just fine on an SSD w/ 8GB of DDR3.

[@jerryli5555]

Very nice video! I am wondering if it is possible to install an add-in SSD card on the PCI-e slot, instead of SATA SSD, it would boost the system performance a lot

[@djdano2k]

What a nice test, thank you for the insights. I just wonder which Windows XP Version is recommended, the 32 bit or the 64 bit version?

[@michaeldoherty2671]

Built first rig all by myself in 2008 with E8500, overclocked it first to 3.6 and later to 4.2 GHz. It's still one of my favorite machines ever, still have it as a backup pc. Ordered E5450 from aliexpress to play with it and see how will it perform. Regarding XP and Vista I never used Vista, went straight to Windows 7 and only a few years after XP reached end of life.

[@themaninthehighcastle8045]

Oldies but goldies.

[@retropcscotland4645]

I've got the same board/not the same mine is a Gigabyte same chip set and utilizes either ddr2 or ddr3. Also have the q9550 and this one you are show casing here the E8600. I will add I got the giga board and Q9550 for free as some one was throwing it out so I got lucky for once. Great video as always mate stay safe.

[@philscomputerlab]

Ah it's one of those boards that take DDR 2 and DDR 3...

[@retropcscotland4645]

@@philscomputerlab Yes I know those are pita in 2020. But it was free so why not.

[@RenoxMTA]

Current ROM: 0601 Update ROM: 0503 *HMMMM XD*

[@kaltblut]

yup, he flashed an older bios, lol how can you not notice that?

[@RyanBurnsRed]

After I saw that I didn't feel like watching the rest of the video lol

[@Hsfgd08]

.... something "old" is sometimes even better than this "new" stuff, mnjaah 😀

[@Cpt_Wolf]

Did you thought that newer bios was removed by manufacturer because of bugs? Something like that happen quite often back in the days.

[@sburton015]

Hey Phil, been a while since I saw your videos, but I have a similar CPU on my older gaming desktop PC, but mine is the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 stock at 2.83 ghz, but I was able to overclock that to 3.26 ghz stable with 4 gb of ddr2 ram running at 960 mhz and for the graphics, I put in an Nvidia GTX 570 gpu. I also have two drives in it, a 180 gb SSD with Windows 10 and a 320 gb hard drive with Windows Vista. In my opinion, for general PC and office tasks and light/older gaming, the Core 2 Duo and Quads hold up well in 2020. They even run the latest version of Windows 10 version 2004 just fine.

[@wamba2097]

I had a Core2Duo E6600 paired with a Geforce 8800GT in 2008. Wasn't high end but I managed to persevere my way through Crysis using it!

[@philscomputerlab]

Same! E6600 overclocked and I got a 8800 GT when they launched!

[@batman9592]

I love how you said "persevere". My friend tried on an even worse P4 X800GTO, got mostly to the end, and had to quit due to low frames. LOL. I didn't bother till i was on this 775 E series.

[@Z098]

You can get 3D sound on newer sound card but have to download a utility from the audio chipset maker. Realtek calls their 3D Sound back, not sure if this doesn't still leave something out but it has helped fixed audio issue in some older games on newer computer.

[@mohamed_fawzy]

man ... thank you.. u really saved me

[@smashandburnyt6938]

If Crysis Remastered is released, the meme "Can it run Crysis" WILL BE REBORN.

[@philscomputerlab]

Only the original Crysis counts :)

[@Rod_Nyssen]

Meeh, the F.E.A.R.-Games are much better!

[@alertol]

- Can it run Crysis ? - Yeah - Ok, but can it run Crysis ?

[@williampaabreeves]

hopefully the crysis remaster is the opposite of the original expecting millions of cores in future rather than infinite clock speed

[@catriona_drummond]

I sincerely hope Crysis remaster will have a minimum requirement of a 6 core/12 Thread CPU so the AMD zombie army dominating youtube finally have a proper argument for the first time.

[@czbrat]

I know you have said you don't like overclocking but these core 2 duos overclocked really well if I recall correctly. Would have been interesting to see.

[@Romerco77]

I have one of those C2D E8600, it overclocks at default voltage up to 4.10 Ghz with a nice heatsink. It is a beast. Intel artificially capped them at lower speeds so they could make the Core 2 Quads look better against the C2D

[@sebastianebert4295]

E8400 overclocks via FSB up to 4-4.2 GHz easily with the right chipset, f.e. Gigabyte EP35/45. I have such a board, but haven't tried it yet. The guy I got the board/CPU from had it overclocked, was at 4.1 GHz, but I never used it so. You can change clock / voltage of the CPU (not FSB) via RMClock or CPUGenie under Windows, btw., no need to go to the BIOS all the time to change some values. Don't forget to cool the whole board with big fans when overclocking. At normal frequency you can undervolt from 1.2 down to 1.0 or even 0.95 V, when overclocked, 1.1-1.2 instead of 1.3 V should be fine also. My Northbridge runs quite hot, because of using 4 RAM slots, needed a fan. I also want to test overclocking, but also want that it lives long, because my Pentium 4 board thermally died after 4 years and that's the fastest PC still here, next to a Xeon E3 Workstation, which is not for gaming.

[@slckb0y65]

got mine up to 4.5ghz without breakin' a sweat on a 240mm AIO, pretty sure it could be done on air with a decent cooler.

[@rama2967]

That asus P5G41TM LX3 my first motherboard LGA 775 and Prosessor core 2 Duo E7500. (Years 2010)

[@iceberg789]

i am still on this 12yrs old E8400. the mobo, ram gfx all retired, but this processor still sitting in its chair.

[@prashanthb6521]

I think Core 2 Duo will be my fav processor. I did so much work on this little workhorse.

[@Zakiev_Omar]

Ay i still have that motherboard though still in use since back when j bought it back in 2011

[@MrSmitheroons]

Surprising to see a modern video about running Windows XP! I didn't know you still could run much on that OS! I do believe these systems run Windows 10 just fine. Was this for performance reasons, or because you know you and your viewers will be wanting to use XP for retro gaming? (It seems like those games you showed would run on Windows 10 as well.) Thanks for the video. These CPUs (and GPUs) are a blast from the past.

[@SUCRA]

Hey Phil! Great video, thanks a lot again. I'm having a bit of a problem trying to film my hardware from an angle while I mess with things, can you show us how you set up the camera and what hardware you use? Thanks a lot, again. As a feedback, I would find interesting to see the newest game the setup can run, and from what year on you shouldn't expect to run any games.

[@philscomputerlab]

Just a tripod in front of me lol

[@SUCRA]

@@philscomputerlab haha thanks

[@dbermont]

I'm using it today. I had to get my old desktop back in operation and just happened to had the money to upgrade some of the components. Through AliExpress I bought some stuff, i.e. I maxed out the processor that the M/B would accept with this one -E8600 E0- (up from the original E4500). New 600w PSU, new SSD and HDD -transfer from my laptop-, "new" DDR2 -667 RAM modules to top at 4 gb (up from 2) but only 3,37 usable tho... I belive it's because of the use of the old pci slots (sound blaster in there) in this ASUS P5LD2-X/1333 and a GT 1030 (up from old Radeon X1650). I'm using to work at home. It's more than capable enough to handle my online teaching activities, streaming video, web browsing and I also use it to play those old games that I just couldn't back in the day with the original configuration, or that would run below than playable fps (e.g. FSX). I'm currently using Windows 7 Pro x64 and I can say that this computer still has what I need to be used as my daily driver at the end of 2020.

[@Xyklonikus]

Hey Phil. Question. Is there a place in Germany where they sell crt monitors? Awesome content bro!

[@chakradharcholleti6722]

Watching Windows XP after a long time.. Thanks mate

[@wawaweewa9159]

always amazes me how well these quads do, especially with an overclock

[@christopherlau7837]

Yup, ran a p4 3.2 with HT and skipped over the dual core line to go directly to a q6600...

[@itstheweirdguy]

In 2008 I still had an Athlon XP 2500+ with a Geforce FX 5200 and 2GB of DDR400 RAM with Windows XP. 500GB IDE HDD

[@AtariBorn]

I finally tore down my Core 2 Quad yesterday. A QX9650 on an Asus P5Q with 8GB of 1066 DDR2 and a 4GB Gigabyte 750 TI. Easily overclocked to 4.2 GHz with a Noctua NH-D15 but I hadn't powered this beast on in almost 6 months and I needed the room. Still hurt to disassemble.

[@gwynnjason]

nice video, is there a specific motherboard for this processor to fully utilize and not bottleneck a high end gpu?