AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Review & GPU Benchmarks: Gaming, Thermals, Power, & Noise

[@GamersNexus]

Do you think NVIDIA will drop prices soon? Post below! Check out the tear down! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH6ufGmwlMSnjq8 Watch our AMD RX 7900 XT review and benchmarks: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2inm32IaN-jedk Watch our AMD RDNA3 Architecture Deep-Dive: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5qodaOOrqt_fLc (also covers specs of the RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT)

[@Khloya69]

No, because AMD isn’t competitive.

[@hereicomehereigo]

They already kinda did for 4090, 2300 - 2400 euros in EU, and these days I'm seeing for 1999 (Zotac and PNY)

[@crylune]

No, they're Nvidia, they never will drop prices.

[@gibber1944]

As a shareholder, I hope NVidia lowers prices quickly. When people buy cards, I'd guess they don't upgrade for 3 years at least. That's a ton of lost sales.

[@HorstLichtersBart]

Not before 30xx cards are sold for good and even then, they don't have to. People still buy these cards and AMD shows every year, that it was a good idea to rather save some money and buy a Nvidia card, then buying AMD.

[@Alms_House]

Thanks, Steve.

[@HnK_Alex]

Back to you, Steve.

[@JamesChurchill3]

Thanks, Steve. Theve.

[@SimohSays]

And the rest of the GN Crew!!! Always the best

[@Bassjunkie_1]

Oh Steve I do say!

[@AwesomeBlackDude]

Someone got to say it, Steve, somebody got to say this Steve, these dam graphic cards are too damm Scalpers High! The community needs to stop saying these cards going to be at MSRP, pls stop lying, nope, nope, nope. 😬

[@Safari_Mike]

Man that's a beautiful backdrop, great work as always!

[@GamersNexus]

Love filming here! Last time we filmed in that spot, people insisted it was a green screen!

[@emmata98]

@@chrisj9961 and we can see it on a screen

[@maxgern9186]

Wow

[@CaveyMoth]

How did you guys CGI in the rain? Impressive.

[@kieran9882]

@@CaveyMoth Unreal Engine 7

[@martininakilazatin7390]

Thanks Steve for actually bothering to check 8K with the properly-scaled graphs. You truly are the marketing police everyone needs

[@xouthpaw]

I do enjoy a good slideshow

[@YouHaventSeenMeRight]

AMD's spiel about DP 2.1 and HDMI 2.2 was ridiculous anyway. By the time the monitors arrive that are able to handle those max frequencies, there will be cards that might be able to drive those frequencies and resolutions, but this generation isn't.

[@iffy_too4289]

You really needed an ellipsis... after the Thanks Steve...

[@Kirgoss]

@@_Clivey We are kind of forgetting HDR with 10 Bit color depth here though, as it always seems to be forgotten... 4K + 120 Hz + HDR with 10 Bit colors = Not possible on DP 1.4 (which the RTX 4090 has...) This isn't something crazy to ask for either. One can now argue that 8 Bit colors with dithering is enough, but considering the crazy prices these cards cost, there shouldn't be any tricks like that needed imo.

[@TheArrowedKnee]

@@YouHaventSeenMeRight I don't see 8K being practically usable for like another 5-10 years. Yeah this 8K talk now is nothing but a marketing gimmick. Heck, only just in the last couple of years, did 4K with decent framerates become possible.

[@MultiNastyNate]

I like the clear umbrella. Makes it easy to see people walking near you. Would be interesting to know how many drops per minute it's capable of dispersing, and how robust the frame is under wind conditions.

[@sleepydragonzarinthal3533]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ahwayzcool4630]

Lol

[@meatbleed]

what a silly comment. love it

[@SpecialOperator]

Since it's clear, I wonder how it would perform with Ray Tracing on

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Steve on vacation or business trip: "Man, I really need something to benchmark"

[@Untotifizierung]

Glad you did the "8k" testing. Eye-opening. Finally the future of gaming is here. How could I have lived without it before. Thanks Steve!

[@johnc8327]

AMD touting 8K gaming if funny considering Nvidia is the only one that can think about 8K gaming with DLSS + Frame Generation. Such an odd move to hype 8k gaming if your AMD.

[@zperdek]

@@johnc8327 It's subtle but it is humor still.

[@jari2018]

for me is the future a 32 inch 75 hz gaming in 1080p preferble - ral life gaming wiht pixels down to atomscale.. I dont play real life but games

[@xFluing]

Back to you Steve

[@Rohirrim009]

Yea the future just give it 10 years for cards to become powerful enough to hit over 144fps at 8k. Myself i look forward to 4k gaming when Nvidia new 5000 series comes out in 2 to 3 years. Then it might br worth upgrading my monitors from 1440p to 4k.

[@CODandponies]

I just want to thank you for putting up numbers for older cards. I have a 1070 and it has become difficult to compare with modern stuff when a lot of channels only go back one or two generations.

[@wombat5252]

Im still using my 1660 GTX TI. It's seriously lacking and I need to upgrade but damn, I can't justify spending $1k on a video card. I don't even think I could spend more than $500 at most. My 1660 GTX TI was $300 brand new at the time and it's the MSI version too which is a bit more costly. It was pretty good for the time it came out...I wish we could still get mid tier cards brand new for around $300-400.

[@Astral_Incarnate]

@@wombat5252 the 6000 series cards are decently priced right now. you can get a 6700xt for roughly $350-400 and you can get both the 6600 and 6650xt for well under $300 now. amd did really take advantage of the crazy gpu pricing over the last 2 years but at least it seems that unlike nvidia they arent stupid enough to continually price ridiculously high. also the 3070 and 6800 are both available for that $500 limit if you are looking for something

[@wombat5252]

@@Astral_Incarnate I've been considering it. You are not wrong. I'd want the new technology of the 7000s chiplet design though but I might honestly just go for that 6700xt as well. I'm going to be upgrading my mobo and CPU and RAM as well as I'm still currently on a Ryzen 2600x so those cards would be extremely bottlenecked. The GPU will be my last upgrade next year.

[@jordancomeaux6888]

@@wombat5252 I've got the 6750xt an it's awesome. 1440p ultra at 100+fps in all but the absolute most demanding, rdr2 ultra 1440p is 85fps, dying light2 high is 80fps etc. I've only tried raytracing in doom eternal an it was okay but not really that noticeable. Dying light 2 raytracing is like playing another game with it enabled but my card only gets 40fps without fsr. My card beats the 3070 but loses to the 3070ti while being $100 to $200 less than those.

[@wombat5252]

@@jordancomeaux6888 That's good! 1440p is where I like to play. Haven't found a need to upgrade to a 4k monitor. I was thinking about the 6800xt. I'm an MSI snob, I only want the MSI version. Lol that brand has always done well for me and lasted a long time and they are pricier than most, but I can't shy away from the brand.

[@bdbgh]

Thanks for including the older cards in the review, really helps put things into perspective for owners of older cards

[@kentaronagame7529]

It's still launch drivers vs seasoned drivers. The new cards will pull ahead even more eventually.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Oh dear, mine isn't in there! That makes my card ancient!

[@Danzo1212]

im still rocking a Asus 1060 6GB OC

[@ShwetankYa]

@@Danzo1212 I have a 1060 3gb 😂

[@heatnup]

@@Bob-of-Zoid what are those emotes 😂

[@dfcx1]

I like that the rx580 is included in the comparison charts since that's what I'd be upgrading from.

[@FhtagnCthulhu]

Just upgraded from mine, I really appreciate seeing the numbers for that still. That is about how long I keep a computer

[@pakman184]

That feeling when your 1060 is now too old to appear on the chart

[@PQED]

Same here with the 1070. Money sucks when you don't have it, and at the same time see massive gains on both the CPU and GPU sides. I'm truly at the wrong side of history right now.

[@nurbsivonsirup1416]

@@pakman184 tbf, it's practically equal to the RX580, so probably they didn't bother putting it in.

[@pakman184]

@@nurbsivonsirup1416 fair point

[@mjc0961]

The 8K benchmarks were everything I could have hoped for. Thanks, Steve (and team)! Here's hoping that both AMD and Nvidia will now shut up about 8K until they have a card that can produce playable framerates at that resolution.

[@tristanmack5779]

Haha I wish that were the case but unfortunately I don't think it ever will be. My gf's GTX 960 says it's pushing 4K 60 fps in the windows settings, yet we all know it hasn't been consistently achieveable until the high end 20 and 30 series cards came out and even then it's really only the high end 30 series cards that do 4K well. Even those advertise max res at 8K. It's all just marketing ploy. You won't see a card hitting 8K above 30 frames on most AAA titles for probably at least another two generations. But both companies will keep advertising it and telling you they do. It is annoying, but it does help their marketing to the ignorant I suppose.

[@Pickle_surprize1121]

@@tristanmack5779 pretty much any card can output to 4k 60 its just that the gpus themselves arent powerful enough to render 4k 60 in games (below 3070/80 territory)

[@FrostyBud777]

I mean, If you drop all settings to low, and turn on FSR or DLSS down to utra performance, it would probably run great, BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF 4K AND 8K IS TO PLAY IN NATIVE SHARP RESOLUTION. I think both fsr and dlss as well as ray tracing is a joke! Rather play 4k Native ultra settings with a good card like 7900 xtx than try to turn on ray tracing and turn on fsr and then play upscaled. Upscaling is so dumb, Just play at 4k without upscale unless you need to use it and if you need to use it, your card ain't good enough lol I just got 7900 xtx 999 power color hell hound after TRYING TO PLAY 4K 60 FPS WITH 3070TI for 2 years almost cause I couldn't find/get another card with good 4k performance for a good price. At launch the 3070ti was 800+ dollars, and I paid 1250 for it due to emergency and used my covid money, and only 8gb memory, compare that to 7900 xtx for 1000 dollars which rips 4k and has 24 GB memory. Just WOW. i AM HAPPY!

[@REPPINDB]

Why would you even want to play 8k though.. it's pointless, 4k is somewhat understandable on larger monitors, but even that.. is a stretch.

[@kidwave1]

@@REPPINDB Yea, I'd much rather have a bazillion framerate at 1080, than much less at 4k. Yea, i get it, when you look at a static screenshot, an amazing amount of detail is cool, but 99.9% of the time, when youre "runnin and gunnin", that amount of detail is functionally imperceptible. I wont upgrade, until I can setup a VR system, that can push both VR screens in the headset at 4k easily, with acceptable frame rates(at least 100 FPS) , to ENTIRELY mitigate the screen door effect. That level of GPU will obviously leave 4k ON A MONITOR, when NON VR gaming, ...finally worth the jump to full time 4k gaming.

[@SuperMari026]

Trying to watch this during a meeting is a challenge but I gotta know how the new cards perform. Thanks Steve.

[@GamersNexus]

Don't get in trouble!

[@SuperMari026]

@@GamersNexus they suspect nothing :D

[@SubnetMask]

Surely it's gotta be easier to explain away a bunch of charts and numbers than if you were caught looking at Tik Tok videos!

[@philtv10oct87]

an Nvidia meeting. nvidia stuff gathering to see @Gamers Nexus's review :))

[@Hoshikani]

either it is a bad job or your are a bad worker

[@ZadesLegacy]

Man...the GPU market needs a lot more serious competition. The prices are insane. Edit: A bit of arguing going on below this comment. My comment was an observation, not a economic or political stance. Please be civil 🙂.

[@rodiculous9464]

We are seeing lots of inflation everywhere people are just viewing gpus in a vacuum

[@alpsalish]

Just pretty disappointed in technology in general. We are in a massive shift and a lot has to settle down and find adoption and design efficiency.

[@diegodiazguerra]

@@rodiculous9464 the amount of inflation doesn’t correlate in the slightest to the price increases we’re seeing in the GPU market

[@InnuendoXP]

@@rodiculous9464 inflation since 2014 is around 25% in most western economies & before 2021 it was around 12% GPU prices have gone up a lot more than 25% & it started from the first cryptoboom & then Turing after AMD dropped the ball with Vega. Like if the '70 tier series of GeForce cards went up by 25% inflation then we should expect the 4070's launch price to be around $412.50... lol Maybe we'll get an RTX3070 for that after the 4070 launches.

[@JViz]

​@@rodiculous9464 My gtx 1070 was $365 brand new at best buy in 2017. If the RX 7800 XT and 4070 are $800, that's a 120% markup in 5 years for the same tier SKU. That's not inflation, that's gouging.

[@reekwind1294]

When i bought a new gaming rig, i remembered how Nividia treated us during the epedemic, i got the RX 7900 XTX.

[@supernice_auto]

respect

[@Codyslx]

Got a 4080 to negate your amd purchase. Your welcome.😊

[@josephk6136]

@@Codyslx Sorry for your loss...

[@Codyslx]

@@josephk6136 Yeah, i died drowing in cuda and dlss.

[@rainiermartina2723]

Pfp makes sense ​@@Codyslx

[@BjornsTIR]

Given the voltage regulation issues, I'm looking forward to the AIB card reviews!

[@junkiexl86]

I learned the hard way years ago to not even entertain a stock refrence card. Though it seems Nvidia nailed it this gen. On the design and implementation that is lol.

[@BjornsTIR]

@@junkiexl86 Yeah, too bad they're so damn big. To be fair, my 6700xt reference card is working just fine, and I think "working just fine" is all reference cards have to do. I don't like how nvidia is basically competing with the AIBs but having pricing advantages.

[@BlueDrew10]

@@junkiexl86 If by "nailed it", you mean overengineered with a gaudy design. I know that last part is subjective, but come on. It's a fancy brick.

[@celzolsen8988]

@@BlueDrew10 it could have been 2/3 the size if they downclocked it by 70% and it'd still keep 95% performance. I'd rather have that than this idiotic brick

[@BjornsTIR]

@@celzolsen8988 They wouldn't have to change the clocks for the 4080 at all to make it smaller

[@kakem0ne]

“Show stopping at 8k” 😂 well played! Hard to argue with that statement…. U guys rock!!!!

[@noway8662]

Yeah, there's no fucking way anyone is running "8K" native without frame generation. Which is stupid, because upscaling from 4K is a better option and you don't have to deal with any FG artifacts.

[@Corey_Snodgrass]

Overclocked red devil xtx at exactly half the price of a 4090 = big win.

[@14Ramjet]

I like the new view of showing the pressure mapping. It really puts it into perspective on where the pressure actually is.

[@Dennzer1]

yes

[@kravenfoxbodies2479]

It's not 100% test if GN reinstalled the cooler after it left the factory install. you just don't start on any bolt reinstalling a head on an engine block for reasons.

[@14Ramjet]

@@kravenfoxbodies2479 ok....... Pretty sure they do the testing before the pressure testing. It is just showing you how well the cooler makes contact with the package. It is never going to be a factory test, but it will be very close.

[@DK-nc9wr]

​@@kravenfoxbodies2479 do you plan on uploading a video doing this test? I hope you do since that'd be productive instead of just commenting. Thanks

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

What does "It's not 100% test" even mean? I think you left out the word "Accurate". What good is being 100% accurate, when you are accounting for all the wrong things? And since when is 100% even necessary when there's a range of tolerances, or where the difference between more or less of something makes no measurable difference? You sound like an audiophile getting their panties in a knot over frequency ranges outside of human hearing, or some guitar player who thinks the type and amount of paint on their electric guitar makes any measurable difference, let alone an audible one! Who said they don't have the assembly specs (Order and torque) if they even matter anywhere near to the same degree as on cylinder heads? They don't! In the case of an engine it's about maintaining good seals, and preventing premature wear by eliminating physical distortion of the cylinder heads, not better heat dissipation. Here you are not trying to counter pressure with pressure, have no relevant moving parts and whatever forces they bring to worry about, nor need to worry about heat distorting the plate at these temps and it's relative size, and finally: Once the screws bottom out, there's already enough pressure (by design), and any extra torque is only to keep the screws from coming loose. That pattern may show distortion or inaccurate dimensions of the plate or components themselves, to where adjusting the torque of a few screws, including taking some pressure off of one or more may be beneficial.

[@OwlMoovement]

Gonna be a bit nostalgic here. The state of GPU prices compelled me to check back on two of my favourite launches of the past: the HD4870 and the 7970. I really liked the "Let's start with the price point most people buy at and just ace it" approach of the 4870 small die launch. I ran the launch MSRP of $300 through the Bank of Canada Inflation Calculator and that puts it at just over $400 in 2022 dollars. The closest launch MSRP and die size equivalent earlier this year would be the 6650XT. I know an apples to apples comparison in performance is hard when featuresets change so much and one of those apples is 14 years old, but the 4870 sat much higher in charts back then than the 6650XT did last year. The higher end, bigger die release of the HD7970 at $550MSRP in 2012 (Just under $700 in 2022 dollars) was also good value for the money. The 7950 at $450 was arguably even better. Both of them traded blows with the more expensive 590 and 580s. Even accepting that the 7900XTX is at a tier or two higher than the 7970 in its day, I think we'd be lucky to see that kind of value at the predicted prices I'm seeing for the 7800XT and 7700XT. I know the fact that prices have drastically outpaced CPI (and incomes) is old news, but I thought it'd be helpful to make that value comparison. Offering better value than the 4080 and 4090 is a good start but that's far short of where we could be.

[@Targonis1]

Prices of things have gone up by over ten percent in the past 12 months alone. 2020 was the year that also drove prices through the roof due to Covid and cost increases across many items as well(shipping cost increases were insane). So, look back to 2019, see how prices compared, then compare 2019 to 2022 to see how things have gone.

[@joeykeilholz925]

In the US the 3060 Ti founders if you were able to find it was the only kind of justifiable GPU under $400 that I could remotely compare to a 4870. Outside of that there is no comparison when you bring up cards like the 1080 Ti that gave you more for your money even if it's a flagship card. That was of course a mistake Nvidia never made again.

[@flamingscar5263]

its not just inflation thats a factor many, many companies are involved making a GPU Nvdia/AMD designing the GPU die Samsung/micron manufacturing and designing the vram TSMC/Samsung manufacturing the GPU die the AIB putting it all together and then you have the material cost, look at how much copper has increased in price, most GPUs worth your money use copper heat pipes, were getting close to copper being 2x the price it was in 2016 Silicon has increased in price by about 30% in march of this year aluminum hit its highest price in history, even adjusted for inflation and things will only get worse, this planet only has a finite amount of these metals, every day we get closer and closer to having none left

[@jessefisher1809]

@@Targonis1 Isn't that why he adjusted for inflation?

[@reaperxxi]

@@flamingscar5263 Thats what I dont understand, so many people are quick to blame AMD or NVIDIA for the pricing of stuff but TSMC is really the exclusive manufacture of the die's, yes company greed plays a part but everything has gone up, and all those price increases eventually land on us the consumer. Hince the 1,000+ dollar gpus.

[@BladeBloodreaver]

It was nice to see my current 5700 XT on the charts! Looks like 7900 XTX will be best value for me. Just need a partner card that fits my case (only have 32cm or 34 if i remove front fan).

[@Andarion00]

Am. I having a deja vu or didn't Steve do a video in this place too years when AMD began to seriously threaten Intel with Ryzen?

[@GamersNexus]

We did! Great memory, haha. We wanted to reuse the setting with the storyline overlap!

[@us7876]

hopefully we get what happened with processors, a few gpu generations with reasonable pricing 😂

[@TheAnzamin]

GN has spoken, the future of AMD GPUs is sealed!

[@sophiaperennis2360]

@@GamersNexus It's like poetry, it rhymes.

[@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg]

History repeats itself I guess ;)

[@Crowder]

It's not much but after the incredible work you did with this one behind the scenes, I had to! Keep it up, you (and your team) are among, if not the best, tech youtubers I know.

[@GamersNexus]

Thank you so much for the support! Any amount is helpful!

[@piercewiederecht5135]

They are head and shoulders above the rest for viewers who like actual facts and tech.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

@@piercewiederecht5135 Agreed. Makes Linus look like a walking advertisement and social media influencer

[@manr.9106]

100% agreed ! Thank you Steve and Team for your unbiased reality related reviews. Definitely the most in depth testing and common sense approach tech review channel out there! Definitely necessary to ensure that they can continue being unbiased! C’mon people 🤝🫶

[@DerIchBinDa]

Thank you and your team for the awesome work you are doing! Building my own PCs since the early 90s and I really appreciate all the details you are going into. Cheers from Germany!

[@daveking1528]

wow... 20€ aus dem Fenster geworfen.

[@DerIchBinDa]

@@daveking1528 Du hast so wenig von Ahnung, du solltest da mal ganz still sein.

[@anonymousx6651]

@@daveking1528 Leute haben mehr für weniger ausgegeben, vor allem in einer Kommentarsektion über gaming PCs

[@cy-one]

@@daveking1528 Ausgehend davon wieviel nützliche Info ich in den letzten Jahren von GN bekommen habe, wäre mir das auch locker den Preis von nem Adana Grillteller und 'ner Cola wert.

[@bb-ballistics1706]

20 euros and not even a thank you from the channel lol

[@fliptomylou8880]

Been waiting weeks for this video...keep up the good work Steve.

[@GamersNexus]

Good work team!

[@fliptomylou8880]

@@GamersNexus yes great work to the whole production team and fellow testers that help put these videos all together.

[@domg6041]

Love you guys and thanks for the reviews. I recently got 3 1440p monitors and was going to upgrade this generation (from an EVGA GTX 1070). Seeing my card on the list helps and goes to show why you guys are the go-to for hardware reviews. Thanks again!

[@xYiazmatx]

Also peeping the 1070 on those charts. Great card!

[@PeterADean]

What do you think you'll go with?

[@rcg260697]

what 1440p monitors did you buy? I was searching for one but got exhausted looking all the options, there are so many comparissons and "best ones" for different use cases. A recomendation would be great.

[@axegash2790]

@@rcg260697 can’t really go wrong with the Samsung Odyssey range

[@FishingMaster_99]

@@rcg260697 hardware unboxing has good vids to help but the key thing is how much money you want to spend, once you have your target price then it gets easy

[@nolan_8]

Thank you for highlighting TW:WH3 in your review! It is a very demanding game and an important benchmark for the industry IMO. Interestingly, the campaign map seems to be even more intense for GPUs' as my 3080 runs hotter and is bottle-necked by my 5600X. The 5800X3D cache seems to greatly improve the campaign map so I will be purchasing it once the price is more affordable.

[@luked9362]

I play TWWH3 as my main game and can't upvote this comment enough. WH3 gets about 53fps on campaign for me with a 5800x3d and 7900xtx. Man, it just eats my whole card

[@Szurix90]

@@luked9362 which resolution do you play?

[@Dia1Up]

Thank you for retesting and showing older cards. I have a Vega 56, the 7900xtx is looking like a good upgrade. It's nice to have numbers to directly compare

[@cristianspiridon]

You should not buy a 1000+ card without having great ray tracing performance!!! Just buy 6950 and don't give nv or amd money for this gen!!!

[@evacody1249]

@@cristianspiridon dude not every one cares about ray tracing not when the FPS takes a hit. You Nvidia fanboys are just as bad as Apple fanboys.

[@peterhoffmann2231]

@@JS-oh2dp to be fair. cyberpunk77 with rx on is literally night and day in terms of looks

[@L4veyan]

@@JS-oh2dp It's easy to notice when lighting/shadows/reflections are inaccurate. That's where ray tracing comes in, it's simply superior to everything screen space related unless the game developers don't know what they're doing, which has happened with some games. Stray is a good example, the game doesn't even have any RT options, but you can enable it through an ini file. There's a huge difference once enabled.

[@3CODKing]

@@cristianspiridon hardly anyone cares about Ray Tracing my guy.

[@BBMorti]

Thank you so much for including fan noise. I value a quiet system over some extra frames every day of the week.

[@XBnPC]

My XFX 7900 XTX hits 3Ghz at 55c on air with 1.1Tbs+ on its 24GB VRAM. Idk if it's luck or just a decent cooler, but i ❤️ it 😊

[@Generationalwealth94]

Damn I wish I had a 7900XTX. It's basically the new 1080Ti and futureproof as hell.

[@DasGanon]

I love this because 1. It's an amazingly detailed review 2. It definitely shows the strengths of the GN team due to the recording details 3. I learned the mattress trick and even in good headphones I can't really tell a difference between this and your usual audio which is surprising!

[@phattjohnson]

That mattress trick is a handy one for a ghetto soundproof-booth on the go!

[@lizhang9807]

what do you think now? lolz

[@peter1001pp]

Amd can. my radeon 7900 xt was up in 3000 mhz without oc it xD

[@EvanAxel]

Love how the filming was done outside! Makes it more relaxing and unique. Please do more of that!

[@Alberecht]

What city was that? that street looks gorgeous.

[@danielchen3993]

@@Alberecht xinyi, taipei.

[@Camalex98]

I really appreciate you still having vega on the charts. have a 1440p 144hz monitor and haven't had a good reason to upgrade from vega until I can satisfy my monitor. Thanks for taking the time to do that!

[@august1870]

Beautiful and cozy shot :) thank you guys for providing such good coverage even while you’re abroad

[@MimosaSTG]

8K helps you appreciate every single individual detail in every single frame... as long as your turn off motion blur. AND at half the frame rate of a cinematic experience that means you get double the cinematic feel.

[@LeitoAE]

@@_DeadEnd_ "That is why we present you GT 730 - A new 4k cinematic gaming king"

[@BOZ_11]

and u still have to turn on AA. joke's on you

[@simoSLJ89]

Is that satire? Patrick is that satire?

[@cybyrd9615]

Dude when I ran half alyx at 140% super res with the Varjo Aero in VR it felt like a sci-fi movie

[@olympusmons4089]

I hope AMD continues to innovate. We need the competition! Not so sure we would see 80 tier Nvidia cards hundreds over the 1k mark it we had AMD competing.

[@kiitter]

Thank you all for including charts for RT on with FSR / DLSS on! Most other reviewers I follow only had the raw RT performance with no reference as to how something like FSR / DLSS might affect it.

[@kidsythe]

I mean I agree we should see all variables. But at the same time RT on makes the game look better. DLSS / FSR makes the game look worse. I feel like you either want one or the other.

[@cooltwittertag]

@@kidsythe cyberpunk (if it wasn't a broken mess) is a great game even at 1440p FSR balanced because with all their movie filters I really can't tell its upscaled unless I'm zooming into a still picture

[@kidsythe]

@@cooltwittertag I'm still on last gens 3080ti and the DLSS a fsr seem to ruin aspects of the game. I find that small symbols are unreadable. Lines and enemies are blurred. My experience is limited. But also makes me wonder why it gets any praise at all. I'd rather turn my settings down than turn on DLSS I only used fsr once tho.

[@thecivilizedgamer2533]

Audio sounded really good throughout the video 👍 impressive that you can put out videos with the same performance you always do

[@zephynum]

It would be rather nice if AMD made a binned version of the 7900 XTX named 7970 XTX to immortalize the HD 7970

[@ninja.saywhat]

really glad you added the 5700xt in your test as i currently uses one. i've been thinking about upgrading from that to possibly either the 7900xtx or 4080 if the latter's price goes down after the initial benchmarks are released.

[@MrStoffzor]

Also been using a (waterblocked reference) 5700 XT since launch and got hold of a new 6900 XT Waterforce for ~$650 last week. Was gonna wait for the new cards but at that price it was hard to pass up. Playing @ 1440p and couldn't be happier with the performance uplift

[@chilpeeps]

Just buy 5080 would be the final sandwich of 4k gaming gpu

[@madb132]

@@chilpeeps 5080? you from the future? what else has happened?

[@hypnotik24]

@@chilpeeps so how fast is 5080? What’s the price? Since you’re from the future.

[@denisn8336]

@@hypnotik24the 5080 will be the defacto 4K ray tracing card and high fps.

[@JASHIKO_]

No one crushes testing like you guys! An absolute brilliant video as usual! Thanks for looking out for all of us!

[@Leonardo-wn2fp]

I'm really eager to see AIB cards tested by GN. If they get the power consumption under control, this can be a big W.

[@LiveBenchmarks]

u sure?

[@JASHIKO_]

@@Leonardo-wn2fp Me too, I watch most of the tech channels for varying info but GN does the most detailed breakdowns and seems to have less of a bias than some of the others.

[@Leonardo-wn2fp]

@@JASHIKO_ Yea, GN's great

[@Leonardo-wn2fp]

@@LiveBenchmarks I can't look into the future, mate. But overall, I do think that the experienced boardpartners can design a better PCB and get some greater BIOS running on those cards. That may take care of the power draw. If not, it may be the chiplet design or something else that is inherent with AMDs overall GPU design.

[@Samophlan]

Glad you are still showing the Vega cards. I'm still running a Ryzen 1700x and Vega Frontier. These comparisons have been very helpful.

[@Spinal1515]

I always look at your reviews as one the most honest and throughout available on KZbin. Keep up the excellent job.

[@chef_moquin9535]

16:50 I love these reminders to people that just because the new cards are out doesn't mean you have to upgrade from last gen

[@joeykeilholz925]

Muh 200 FPS at 4k isn't enough 😉

[@BOZ_11]

@Joe 200hz is deffo enough. the difference between 200 and 240 is negligible. nothing AT ALL like going from 120hz to 240hz

[@theonlylolking]

@@joeykeilholz925 Try good VR then you will need to upgrade.

[@artemaung5274]

One funny stat is that 1050, 1060 3Gb, RTX 2060, 3080 (and pretty much any other 30xx card), 4080 and 4090 all had about identical price/performance when 3080 was $850, 2060 $330, 1060 3Gb $200 and 1050 $100. 5+ years ago low end cards had massive price/performance advantage, but today it's basically almost the same for an entire range of GPUs from budget to ultra-high end.

[@InnuendoXP]

@@theonlylolking upgrade from what? A 6600XT is more than enough for "good" VR so long as you don't want to shove raytracing into it.

[@diabloterrorgf]

Shout out to your camera and mic crew. That is an amazing shot outside in the rain with amazingly clear audio. 20+ year career professionals can't get a shot like that.

[@KoeiNL]

Honestly, it matching a 3090TI in RT is not that bad. That is a huge leap from RDNA2 and in my opinion good enough in most cases. Edit: The XT should be a lot cheaper though, at least $150 less.

[@Real_MisterSir]

It's not matching the 3090TI in raytracing at all. It's only "matching" when the raytracing part is set to a minimal level (like games that only feature RT shadows for example, not full RT), meaning 90% of the actual difference comes from raster performance, not RT performance. In games that are actually fairly raytraced, the 3090Ti blows the XTX out of the water. Even the 3080Ti outcompetes it.

[@FragbiteOeXistenz]

Man, you cant even see if RT is on or not. FPS way more important

[@GreekSIMRACING]

@@Real_MisterSir If would not want to be in 4K and full RT to play in 45 fps and pay 1000$-1200$.My needs are to play 120fps on 144hz ultra wide.Below 70 fps now i can feel it even with my old gtx 1080.

[@gorjy9610]

Number of people who just few months ago claimed that 3090ti level of RT is more than enough and reason no1 to buy that stupidly overpriced card just to today claim that is not usable at all in RT is stunning.

[@MechAdv]

This should have followed RDNA2 pricing at best. 650-700$ for what is equivalent to the 6800xt, a 10% cut down top end die. Honestly this is a very disappointing result for two reasons. First, the 7900xt is bad value relative to 550$ 6800xt and 650$ 6900xt, and the whole point of cut down cards is to provide better value than the flagship cards. Neither the 7900xt or xtx are worth buying at these modest uplifts over last Gen. Secondly, Nvidia will have no need to lower their pricing if this is what they can expect from the competition. In a recent poll on HUB, Most people said they are willing to spend 15-20% more money for equal performance on Nvidia vs AMD. Evidently Nvidia knew exactly where that would put their pricing. 20% more money for roughly equal performance in raster, and superior perf across the board in RTX, AND superior perf/watt. That’s the one that really hurts because they were supposed to blow Nvidia out of the water in efficiency this time around.

[@mazing87]

Steve, your commitment to analyze the data when you're remote is exactly why I trust the work that you do! Excellent stuff!

[@janterri3539]

True, such a good channel

[@Zenny9]

Man, my flagship 1080 Ti at the time costed me around $1100. Its absolutely insane that the flagship cards of today in my country go for literally more than twice the price of that.

[@Nemesis2446]

Same.

[@H3nrque]

I'm rocking an RX 580 and was surprised to see it featured there. I'm still able to play anything I want at 1080p, I'll wait a couple more years before upgrading.

[@hirokjyotideka5571]

@Precise. It's good considering the years and warzone's shitty optimization.

[@cemsengul16]

@@hirokjyotideka5571 People don't understand that Warzone and Cyberpunk are broken games.

[@Swearzy]

I bought my 1080ti new in Australia for $1300 AUD if I remember correctly, I got a decent deal on a barely used 3080 for $1000 AUD and the performance difference is crazy between the two even though it isnt a ti

[@Byvonhumpadicle]

GN, I really want to see you guys include production benchmarks in your reviews, Blender renders in particular, these cards are of legitimate interest to 3d artists and it would be really good to have more information on their performance here, thanks!

[@GamersNexus]

We can look into adding those back in. We did them some years ago briefly, but haven't updated it for the new bench methods. We'll look into it when back!

[@analogicparadox]

Absolutely, especially since they do them with CPUs, which tend to be straight up worse compared to GPUs.

[@TheAnzamin]

got to disagree, that stuff is covered by the multitude of 'creator' focused channels put there. I value how gaming focused GN is!!

[@samgoff5289]

Nobody serious about production would buy an AMD gpu...

[@Byvonhumpadicle]

@@samgoff5289 Currently sure, but that situation might change in the future, it would be useful to have it reviewed, I'm not suggesting to remove the focus from gaming as clearly that's the intended audience for the card, but some people use them as double duty, or might be interested if amd can be a disruptive influence in the industry and curb Nvidias wanton pricing.

[@BaronCAD]

As always, exactly the review we needed. You're a gem, Steve!

[@sidvicious3129]

Great job, honest reviews without all of the BS, it's what we have come to expect from the team at Gamers Nexus!!!

[@TheDiner50]

Just have to say. The older GPU's displayed for references in the charts are really well picked. RX 580? Vega 56? NV 1070?? Like it is so strange how in touch with the community GN is. There is some grate cards ran that gives such a good insight for comparison. Only the Arc A770 is questionable how relevant it is. But sure if suckered into buying one of them GN is here to help you to do a better purchase this time around!

[@Fluke1x]

There's data from Steam about which graphics cards are used the most. That's probably how they make relevant picks.

[@yurisuika]

Kind of inferencing where my GTX 1080 lies in there has me extremely excited despite the lackluster ray tracing which I have yet to and will never use!

[@loowick4074]

@@Fluke1x it's amazing how out of touch most tech tubers are with the majority of the market since steam data literally lays it flat on what most people are using

[@Radovanslav]

The Arc is probably too new to not bother with it at all.

[@scheurkanaal]

A770 is interesting reference material as even though it's obviously in a way lower tier and has its own issues, it's still the very best Intel has to offer. That makes it relevant in its own way.

[@HMarcBower]

Thank you for this - was worried it might get delayed with you out of the country. The team did a great job with all of this. :) As for Strange Brigade, not sure why it didn't take off better. It's a really fun multiplayer game, and the writing for it is amusing. :)

[@Bound4Earth]

So you get 70% of the performance at half the price right now.

[@scenode]

i would really love to see more videos filmed outside with beautiful backgrounds like this one, it was really relaxing imo :) And as always, amazing work by the GN team :D

[@3dkiller]

i agree

[@rogerthomas368]

As a RX 580 owner it seems about time to upgrade :)

[@GamersNexus]

Glad we had it in some of these charts to help out!

[@rogerthomas368]

@@GamersNexus That is a key reason for the upgrade, you are unlikely to include RX580 numbers when the next round of cards are released.

[@joemarais7683]

@@rogerthomas368iuno man, with prices this high, the 580 might still be a legitimate option in 2024

[@rogerthomas368]

Even in the UK where card prices have been a joke, these new cards are putting current 6000/3000 card prices under a lot of pressure and while I have a 4K monitor it is a business monitor so only 60hz (and I do not play any games that use RT). So over the next few months I should have my pick of cards to choose from. The UK market got so bad that last year I purchased a Lenovo laptop with a 3060m for less than 3060 cards were going for.

[@Luemm3l]

@@GamersNexus they are immensely useful to somewhat gauge the ability of your own card compared to the newest generations! even if some are obviously missing, you can close the gap between a rx 480, vega 56 and 2070 yourself cause you know how they were priced, advertised and in which category (upperclass, beginner, medium) back in the day and then just see the uplift the models today in the same class. So much appreciated from our side of people who are 2,3, maybe even 4 generations behind >D

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

I am now really intrigued for the partner models. The GPU is really good, but the reference model is definitely not great. But I don't expect much more performance from the partner models, but coil whine is definitely a deal breaker for me. I once had a gigabyte gtx 970 and it coil whine. Every time it went into 3d mode you could immediately hear the whine. It was infuriating. (and I have to admit I got all my money back, because of the 3.5GB memory drama and I went for a 290x instead)

[@spankbuda5760]

Why are you talking about 10 year old GTX 970 coil whine? Have you not purchased any CURRENT cards?

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

@@spankbuda5760 are you illiterate? O just used it as an example how unbearable coil whine can be. And the hint, that I was able to get a full refund might tell you (only if you can read), that it was actually back in the day.

[@TetGodOfGames]

Asus Tuf model was getting 10 fps more in cyperpunk.

[@spankbuda5760]

@@HeavyMetalGamingHD If you have to question my literacy why are you responding back to me who is questionably "illiterate"? Have you ever thought that I might be suffering from coil whine disorder?

[@Andronicus87]

@@spankbuda5760 Im stil using a GTX 970 so sue me. I am finally upgrading this year and this plateau graphics are hitting is really cheapening the experience of finally getting building a new computer. Being disabled and a slave to the government sucks. I had to save up for a couple years to get 4000 bucks to spend on a new PC. I am using a 4th gen i5, the 970, 2100 DDR3 16 GB and still a mechanical SATA 3 HDD..... being poor sucks. Too bad food and electricity is more important then computer components.

[@foehammerone]

Just started watching this channel / reviews. Great review, very details, thoughtful, and straight forward. Top-tier review content.

[@drewmendoza2041]

Right on what I've expected in terms of RT performance. Great for non-RT gamers. I hope AMD continue to improve the RT performance of their GPUs. Can't wait for RT to be no longer be a huge factor when shopping for GPUs.

[@mjkittredge]

it shouldn't be a factor even today. It's in 100 games and while it looks pretty it kills frames so hard it's only worth attempting with flagship cards. In the future it will be more widespread in games but by then the technology will be improved a lot. Hopefully game devs can find a way to make it less demanding, or switch to UE5 Lumen

[@crylune]

Never was a factor, people are just brainwashed by Jensen's garbage

[@cjagria]

Considering consoles uses AMD hardware, i think RT also will be optimized for AMD in next gen games

[@Dionyzos]

But do non-RT gamers really spend 1000+ bucks for that insane (often overkill) level of rasterization performance? Aren't last gen cards a way better buy for competetive players? I don't think this card and the 4080 have a significant audience. The 4090 at least delivers on every front.

[@JuliuszMaciejewski]

It was never a factor, if anything it was the DLSS.

[@EER0000]

Besides the price, the coil whine is something that’s really a dealbreaker. Hopefully it’s specific to this card rather than the model

[@adankpineapple5994]

Usually coil whine is mostly just dependent on the card or PCB layout used, not the graphics chip. Aftermarket cards will probably solve that

[@pmarciano1717]

Bro all Asus and msi 4090 have the same choilwhine i had 4 Asus Strix 4090 all miserable choilwhine and sended back

[@doodledibob]

Both my friend and I just bought last-gen AMD GPUs in the “battleground” range, because they just completely destroyed NVidia on a price-performance basis. He bought a 6950xt while I “only” bought a 6700xt. Raytracing is nice to have, but absolutely not essential at this point. And the other features NVidia has don’t bring enough to the table to justify the ridiculous price points. Thanks GN for the excellent coverage, and special thanks for the Black Friday buyers guides. They allowed me to be confident in putting together a new rig after my old one from 11 years ago got past the point of being upgradable.

[@timgibney5590]

Thanks Steve for going over coil whine. No one seems to mention this which can ruin the experience. My Asus Strix 3080TI had this problem which thankfully went away by the 2nd month.

[@Captain_Chloroform]

Wouldn't it be the best thing ever if EVGA announced they were teaming up with AMD to start making graphic cards again.

[@angle2885]

Seeing my good ol 1070 on a benchmark is actually really neat. It's been chugging along letting me play my favorite games alright even at 1440p. Funny to see the 4x improvement in performance, while I still don't feel the need to upgrade.

[@aFutureSelf]

Still rocking my 1070 as well. The games I play don't warrant an upgrade either. If i were to upgrade, a 6700 XT or 6800XT would last me another 6-8 years at a good price.

[@fengorwolfsclaw]

same goes for my 1080ti. i really want to do an upgrade but everytime i look at the prices i'm like meh it's stil rocks fine.

[@angle2885]

@@fengorwolfsclaw Yep. This baby cost a much more reasonable price back in the day. And it seriously runs everything well. Only a few games don't hit my 1440p 144hz need. And no way will I shell more than 500$ for an upgrade. It's just not worth it.

[@sodiumchlorid]

@@fengorwolfsclaw i had luck got a evga1070 hybrid for 248 € ebay during the price-crysis and still works good for me

[@jeffvella9765]

latest game engines are so optimized by default that a 1070 can run almost anything with decent graphics and frames. I have a 1070TI and run everything on Highest with locked 50 frames per second and 100 hrz free-sync monitor. (your eye will not see the difference between 60 frames and 50 frames, so until you do don't fall for marketing gimmicks) The only reason to bump it to 120 hrz and 60 frames is if you are playing a competitive game on a network, and even then, you would be hard pressed to notice a difference. Your connection will always be the bottleneck before anything else. As long as you keep your frame rate locked you guarantee maximum performance, minimum energy consumption and increased card life. Keep the monitor frequency at double your locked frame rate so you have a stable 2 hrz per frame, this also improves performance and increased monitor life. Disable v-sync in-game because your free-sync monitor is doing the job already = max performance. If you are playing at a desk, you do not need 4k or a big monitor because it will hurt your neck and eyes, get a 27" or a 32". RT is a gimmick, what you get will never pay for the loss in performance. When it gets down to: RT ON= lose less than 10 frames start to consider it viable, else let them work on it for a few more years. + rasterization has improved a lot too, that it is hard to tell which one is which.

[@Imjeezus]

Outside, in the rain, on the other side of the planet and Steve is still slapping around Nvidia with the facts. Love the dedication!

[@TheRealBobbyMC]

I never stop cringing at him swinging cards around in the air even without the rain.

[@thepopeofkeke]

Stock price dropped $2.63 he gave them a good tongue lashing. Nividia $163 per share AMD $63

[@jordancomeaux6888]

I love this review. So many on social media are trashing the 7900xtx as if it's trash or saying it lost to the 4080 by a land slide. Then, hardware unboxed when the 7900xtx beat the 4080 it was a meh, but if the 4080 beat it by 5fps it was "huge".

[@jewelbell5]

Yea, he's turning into another nvidia shill.

[@laszlodajka5946]

Exactly xtx is still a great card

[@travisparker5632]

Excellent work from GN! This kind of in-depth review is what brings me here, especially before a major launch.

[@DGBomber]

Thank you guys. I would love to see performance in VR for the new generation, both via cable and Air Link if you can. It's really a selling point for every VR user

[@KevTCC]

Agreed. Specifically VR in sim games like DCS World.

[@Matthew-rp3jf]

Add vr and drop 1080p tests. 1440p is the new low standard.

[@larion2336]

@@Matthew-rp3jf 1080p can still be useful for high hz competitive titles, but yeah it is pretty niche.

[@mareksendecki5695]

I would be perfectly happy with only one, always set the same VR benchmark. Just to have something to compare different cards to

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

@@larion2336 but not at cards with that performance level. If you are just going for competitive high frame rate gaming this card is just way overspending. You will end up cpu bound in almost every title

[@paco1669]

Love that background with the subtle rain noise. It's nice.

[@bfish9700]

I have a liquid freezer argb in my system almost entirely because of your review. Great to see sponsors who actually bring really great value quality products.

[@howdo7278]

The 8K benchmarks prove AMD has failed us again… Looks like I’ll be taking my 8K monitor, 8K TV, 8K phone and running over to NVIDIA once again… /s Great review as always, Steve!

[@GamersNexus]

hahaha, running over to NVIDIA -- in 3 generations!

[@802Garage]

Dang, that mattress delivered some hella clean audio, hahaha. Great work all!

[@rikwisselink-bijker]

The level of snark for the 8K section rivals the usual snark level of Technology Connections, and I love it.

[@josestechcorner]

Great video, I love the backdrop. The card selection in the comparison chart is informative. I would like to see how the 1080Ti show up as well. I am ready for an upgrade if possible.

[@spicysausage8805]

1080ti still a beast, but I may be ready for an upgrade as well.

[@Hybris51129]

Same here. At this point I am hoping for a either a revised 4090 with a different power setup or getting a 3090 Ti though given the numbers AMD just posted those aren't going to be available anytime soon I expect.

[@icediverfull]

Love to see vega included, which makes the comparison easy for me Only comparing high end cards makes No real sense for most people! Thanks GN Team

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

Well when I'm watching reviews, I'm wanting to see how much better or worse one company's product is to another's, in this case which is better, 4080 or 7900 XTX. I can safely assume my stuff is going to be significantly inferior to what I'm looking at, otherwise I wouldn't be bothering to look. It's which should I buy, not should I buy at all. Now there are times where it's interesting to see how my old stuff compares to new stuff but it's not essential.

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

​​@@randomlyentertaining8287 I think it's pretty dang essential. Imagine the gen-gen performance difference is like 10-15% at higher power draw. Doesn't matter which one is better between the two, unless you're desperate for an upgrade or its accompanied by a significant price drop it's not really worth looking at, no matter which card of the gen is technically best.

[@hey01e5]

one thing the rx 7900 XTX has over the RTX 4080 is the size. it is a much smaller card while delivering the same performance (at least for rasterization). i might consider the rx 7900 XTX over the RTX 4080 for itx builds.

[@svn5994]

And significantly less efficient.

[@OfSheikah]

Thank you Steve and the Gamers Nexus team Looking forward for next year too as GN gains even more experience in technology knowledge in testing.

[@breakingblue5399]

The amount of work and precision this team puts into their reviews is absolutely phenomenal. The detail is way above what the average consumer cares about but I halve always enjoyed every second of these reviews and teardowns. Ggs guys and keep up the amazing work!

[@stevanko1]

Thank you for the 8k testing! Truly relevant and popular and mainstream at the moment, but at the same time - very affordable.

[@hovant6666]

Interesting that in this generation, the AMD reference PCB didn't seem as good as they usually are. This may be AMD throwing a bone to their AIB partners in the context of the shadow cast over them by the Nvidia FE boards. It's often been remarked that the best watercooling choice is usually the AMD reference board, since despite being the cheapest, the partners usually down-cost the board components, power delivery, and voltage regulation, even when more expensive. This is overall likely a move for the better overall health of the market.

[@Sl4sk1]

I love that someone still makes reviews like this

[@mintydog06]

Thanks for including Vega 64, as that's my card, so always great to see how it compares. Really appreciated.

[@rinserofwinds]

Yes, I cheered 😁

[@Leggir]

As I run AMD GPU in my desktop since the Radeon All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro, the 7900XTX will be a nice upgrade from my 5700XT.

[@ZackVapa]

Finally. The review we've been waiting for.

[@Donchikiman]

Haha, I like how even my 580 is in there for comparison. Also imo compared to where AMD started with RT beating a 3090 at its lowest and coming close to a 4080 at its best is seriously impressive. And for 100 bucks between the XT and XTX it actually feels like a decent deal, though we will need to wait for AIBs for more realistic pricing.

[@2pingu937]

Hey Steve, I always go searching for day 1 reviews but always end back here at the end. Thanks for the way you do things

[@MichaelBjork]

Thanks, Steve, for allowing 8k to shine in your review. Finally, it's time to upgrade my monitor.

[@devonmoreau]

Been waiting for this one, love your work guys!

[@kcStranger]

I hope the coil whine improves on future models, because I would 100% pay the Nvidia tax (and hate it) not to have to deal with that. It's unfortunate though because the last AMD card I bought (an ASUS 6750XT in a system I built for my dad) also had pretty bad coil whine.

[@land.1368]

Sometimes i feel like its luck of the draw, ive had many nvidia cards with really bad coil whine, although they were older models.

[@mrgreywater]

@@land.1368 It's not really luck of the draw, it mostly depends on the input filtering of the card. Manufacturers can change the resonance frequency by adding capacitors, but it increases the cost (f = 1/2π√ (LC)). Different power supplies can also change the coil whine because of different ripple characteristics on the 12V rail. Buildzoid has some nice reviews of the power delivery of certain cards. Basically it doesn't depend on the individual card, and more on how the AIB decides to design it.

[@land.1368]

@@mrgreywater your not wrong whatsoever and i agree but in my experience ive had 2 of the exact same cards, one with coil whine, one with not, running at identical speeds, same psu and mb, but in theory you are correct.

[@land.1368]

@トム 1080s have always been rough for me, msi especially, but its usually only really bad in game menus as weird as that is, capping menu frame rate to 30 solves it most of the time for me

[@kadrix732]

Just get a different model which isn't the reference card.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

This must’ve been a huge logistics feat to have the team do the review while filming and editing onsite at the same time. It sounds like there’s some driver shennanigans similar but not as criminal as the Radeon VII. The reference has the benefit of including a type C port which some, including myself, find useful. If it wasn’t for this though I would just get a Sapphire card

[@Notverygoodatall]

Hopefully they actually retail at the recommend price

[@chillnspace777]

This

[@fighterpimp]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@Kylethejobber]

I had the 7900xtx since day 1 and its been great

[@Kubose]

Damn, this really puts into perspective how bonkers the 4090 is, don't see that kind of performance gap within the same generation very often.

[@isaacwakefield5915]

Well you do if you look at gpus aimed at professionals rather than consumer grade gpus. It seems like they just pushed the envelope on what becomes a consumer gpu, both in terms of performance and price.

[@casualtake1497]

The price said it all lmao

[@JsGarage]

4090 does stand out as does it's price and lack of availability. 4090 out there with those 2020-2021 GPU prices and availability.

[@fulcrum7082]

@@JsGarage stay mad. they are in stock to buy so must be a cashflow problem for you :L

[@JsGarage]

@@fulcrum7082 Mad? They are in stock for like $700-$1000 over MSRP. It's not a cash flow problem I assure you. I just don't shell out cash like it's nothing on the other hand. Having the best GPU at any cost isn't something I need. I have other hobbies besides 1-upping my buddies PC lmao.

[@huhwhatjason]

Essentially slightly better than 3090 Ti performance in raster and RT and retailing at slightly lower than current brand new 3090 Ti prices. Nvidia's refusal to lower 30 series pricing actually makes the 7900 XTX price competitive. However, since most people agree that 3090 at retail in 2022 is overpriced, this isn't a win for consumers.

[@mattdayne2585]

Feels more accurate to say, slightly better performance than 4080 in raster and between a 3090-3090ti in RT while lower than current 3090 prices. Still is expensive though, but not 4080 levels of stupidity expensive at least we shall see.

[@ssenyosdaviee1873]

Well said... great observation

[@MechAdv]

@@mattdayne2585 Considering the majority of people that voted on the HUB poll said they’d be willing to spend 15-20% more on Nvidia for equal performance with AMD doesn’t bode well for healing the market. Especially since AIBs will likely push the XTX pricing up to 1200$ for the Nitro and Hellhound models.

[@mattdayne2585]

@@MechAdv a lot of people are willing to pay the nvidia tax for comfort reasons and/or for production reasons. But you're right it still isn't good for the market/consumers. Like you said the AIB's will absolutely be having cards around 1200$ with nvidia AIB 4080's seem to be between 1400-1600$. Both cards need to drop in order for the price to be actually justifiable for the majority of people. Anything past 800$ is a really hard sell for me.

[@huhwhatjason]

@@mattdayne2585 Agreed! Watched another review (HUB) and realized I undersold its raster performance. Also, just watched GN's 7900XT review and it's an even worse value, seems like we've got a 4090 and 4080 situation where the halo-tier card is a better value. This generation is disappointing.

[@Aedrrow]

thank you for showing the coil whine. I hope more and more people wake up and talk about it, so the gpu companys will finally do something about it...🤞

[@adamprestidge4775]

Hey Steve, For future reference, you don't have to flip a mattress to get a clean mic record. Cover yourself and the laptop in a thick blanket thrown over both. This will kill off any echo and background noise pretty effectively. If you do it in a washroom, even better :) Hope this helps save someone lifting a mattress the next time you guys are recording mobile :D

[@jabroni6199]

Not sure covering yourself up in a thick blanket is a better solution tbh

[@slammerf16]

BBC reporters just sit under a duvet - according to the podcasts I was listening to during the pandemic

[@adamprestidge4775]

@@jabroni6199 I've used it in emergency scenarios when I had to get VO out for doing professional commercial VO. It works pretty well :)

[@spoonman44]

Best reviews on the market. I think it's still impressive the xtx is competing with the 3090 cards already. They were significantly more behind when the 2080 came out.

[@scottr4086]

Just wanted to say thank you for the great coverage! Looking forward to the deep dive later on

[@CreateNowSleepLater]

Looking forward to encodeing, AV1 and smart access benchmarks since AMD touted these.

[@Gorlami90]

I’m happy with the 6950xt. I’ll be set for a while at 1440p. Once we can run native 4K with ray tracing at 160fps, maybe I’ll be interested

[@sfract6833]

I wish I could see a single impartial... honest... unbias review about the technologies themself instead of "how you feel about the industry" all the time...

[@heytoast7129]

It doesn't feel like there's any upper mid-range anymore. With the xx90 class cards, I thought the xx80 would now be what the xx70 cards used to be, close to the top, but clearly a step down. I got the 1070 Strix for I think just over $400 back in '16 and have been at 1440p since then. Was looking to at least go to 1440p 120/144hz ultrawide with this upgrade, but it looks like I'd have to spend ~$1,000+ on just the gpu to do that. Which is way out of my price range. I would spend, at max $800 for a video card and even then there might be a few nights of regret. $600 I'd be more comfortable with.