AMD RDNA4 - What Do We Know So Far!

[@trastewere]

The so far leaks of the RX 9070 XT are in the range of 7900GRE. So nothing really amazing but if the price is right AMD can take some of that sweet midrange market.

[@CM0G]

Update leaks

[@ZackSNetwork]

The RX 9070XT should have rasterization performance close to a stock 7900XT. With raytracing on the level of a RTX 4070.

[@decade_of_dust8810]

@@ZackSNetwork Not quite sure where this guy’s getting his information from comparing the new AMD cards to a 4090.

[@Yurikane1211]

@@decade_of_dust8810 from his ass

[@BeGodly]

@@ZackSNetwork With raytracing on the level of a RTX 4070 Ti**

[@desktopstu4145]

There are no bad graphics cards, only bad graphics card prices.

[@yakumoyukari4405]

And stupid names

[@Phil_529]

30-50% performance over the 7900XTX? What?? No one is saying that. The timespy score showed it at 7900GRE levels. This will age like milk.

[@NootNoot.]

'Cost effectiveness'

[@Phil_529]

@@NootNoot. He then goes on to say offer 4090 level performance. That's not going to happen lol

[@NootNoot.]

@@Phil_529 Oh, well lol at that

[@PigeonPlucker]

Ok Nvidia fanboy

[@Phil_529]

@@PigeonPlucker Delusional AMD fan who just makes up numbers. Typical.

[@Kapono5150]

Let’s hope AMD doesn’t overprice these cards like they usually do

[@liberteus]

Trust AMD to disappoint. Every single release they botch either the price, or the perf claim, or both. THeir cards aint bad, but their marketing is terrible.

[@Kapono5150]

@ Your on point! Even how AMD keeps changing the naming of Radeon cards is very strange. But as you stated, the marketing is bad

[@TheLateral18]

last time it was speculated the performance gain of rdn3 was about 60% , amd came out with that beautiful 30%

[@arenzricodexd4409]

60% i thought it was three times faster than 6900XT? Those that are more conservative about it back then expect RDNA3 will at the very minimum twice as fast since the amount of stream processor on 7900XTX is more than double of 6900XTX.

[@TheLateral18]

@@arenzricodexd4409 that was the leakers jajajajajajaja lets see what happens tomorrow

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Thanks for the update.

[@turbo523]

Are you sure that something close to the 4090 would be announced this CES ?

[@CM0G]

Sure 5080 is going to be close. Dude is having some wild expectations on next gen cards. He don't even realize what would mean for a 64cu AMD card to be closes to 4090😂

[@turbo523]

@CM0G Heard it could be close to 4080. Maby he meant to say 4080 not 4090 because the deference is Huge.

[@CM0G]

@@turbo523 I'm not going to make an in deep analysis here, but even 4080 is a bit too far. For the navi48 to reach 4080 perf they need: -Substantially higher clocks ~3.3ghz, which I don't think will be the case (at least for the reference 26xWatt models), but most likely ~3ghz -Bigger bandwidth than what a 20gbps memory can give. This may be solved by the L3 cache though, they say it's ~96mb. My top expected perf for n48 is on par with 7900xt. And the only way I can accept the ~4080 leak to be true is if the games tested are AMD favorable (like COD) Don't get me wrong here I would love AMD to make great products and market share, but I would love also that ppl use their brain more often before they speak.

[@decade_of_dust8810]

Secrets are pretty hard for large companies to keep without somebody leaking them. I wouldn’t get my hopes up too high. Normally you just end up disappointed.

[@DaveTheeMan-wj2nk]

You already got that, it's the 7900xtx. yeah 4090 is more powerful, but byu like 20-25fps on average. Which is big, but not THAT big. You can get the 7900xtx CHEAP AF. Get that. the 7900xtx will be stronger, and cheaper likely than any Nvidias new offerings, or AMDS> Outside of ray tracing (if you care)

[@alrecks619]

if AMD can offer the same amount of VRAM at least with 7900 XT (since they are sticking with G6), when considering the performance of 70-class (given more recent rumors) GPU on RDNA4 is going to be around 7900 XT and XTX, AMD would actually do well in this generation.

[@ZackSNetwork]

It’s already been confirmed that the RX 9070XT is their highest end card and it’s a 16gb GPU on a 256bit bus.

[@Rinsii-y6k]

RDNA4 is the first time i have thought about grabbing an AMD card, Im not an enthusiast and still on a 2080ti but with the nvidia counterparts being so damn expensive and massive power draw i cant wait to see what the card showcase in afew days. Worried about the fsr vs dlss though it has never been as good.

[@Trippstc]

not once has it been mentioned to be aimed at 4090 perfomance, 7900xt and 4080 raster and 4070ti ray tracing and aslong as its priced well it should be a good card

[@ZackSNetwork]

How is AMD’s fastest RNDA4 GPU %30-%50 faster than a 7900xtx if AMD is not competing in the high end? This also completely contradicts what AMD said. Along with all leaks. Which talk in the line with RX 7900GRE but better because significantly higher clock speeds and better raytracing.

[@menger88p]

He has wrong information and just spreading misinformation...mayabe he wanted to say 30% performace per dollar

[@britexitengineer1407]

4080 Performance would do the job.

[@ammpower9235]

1:30 - is START of sense

[@stevenanderson3205]

I just bought a 7900XT because i feared we would not see 20 or 24 GB graphics cards this generation from AMD.

[@eikbolha5883]

Thats neat part we dont cuz amd said it before 😂 and the xtx is fine gpu you will be ôk for years to Come im sure about that but that new rx 9070xt will be really impressive in my opinion and price of 650usd IF True thats a damn good deal.

[@Accuaro]

GDDR6 doesn't bother me so as long as the price isn't obscene. FSR4 is supposed to use WMMA, and I forgot who at AMD said this but IIRC it should support RDNA2.

[@Ja_Schadenfreude]

They'll never receive market share by simply pricing their products slightly under Ngreedia products. They need to be priced to sell like Intel does.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

Intel will not going to gain that much. Maybe some tech enthusiast on a budget will get it but most people out there will get nvidia (most of them) or AMD. And many budget gamer end up choosing cpu like Ryzen 3600 or 5600 because of how cheap they are and it seems B580 are being "held back" by those processor making even 4060 end up being faster with much stable average and 1% low.

[@TheTick20001]

8:55 The chart of Watts says "higher is better". No it isn't lol.

[@raysparks3161]

Bigger number better. The 9070xt is around 44% better than the rtx 5090, it's simple maths

[@AshtonCoolman]

All AMD has to do now is come out with a 12GB card that's faster than the B580 and costs $300 or less. Basically a 6700 XT with much better ray tracing 😂

[@CM0G]

That's not enough. They need to finally increase core count on n44. The difference from n32 to n33 was too big for a cut down 7700xt to cover and now it's even bigger. With smaller dies and high yields the number of cut downs is small and they just losing money trying to cover market segments. 7700xt 12gb and 7600xt 16gb was all stupid decisions that cost them. If n44 is not 40cu 12gb it will be yet one more stupid decision for AMD. TBH though so far this gen, everything seems done in the right way. All concerns I had last gen seem addressed this gen: -They naming the products right 70xt and 70 instead of 80s -Both 9070xt and 9070 having 16gb. -The more recent leaks suggesting that n44 will have actually 12gb. If they also increase CUs on n44 and the rumors on FSR RT are true, this will be a great generation and a healthy line up of GPUs

[@Loppy2u]

AMD giving RX 7700XT 12GB performance for smidge less than 300GBP would be sublime.

[@riekopo7638]

leaks don't show any improvement in "gaming performance" like Su is saying.

[@Oceanborn712]

Do we really need a rumor video 2 days before it's revealed? o.ô

[@RobertFromEarth]

It's more a spoiler video than a rumor at this point 🙂

[@johnboylan3832]

​@@RobertFromEarthExcept they aren't making a card that matches the 4090.

[@mikebruzzone9570]

Yes, serdes on and off RDNA lll GCD to MCD caused some latency that could only be overcome by more power. There is an installed base of 419 M Turing and Ampere + 155 M Ada. AMD will stand in the path of some percent of Turing and Ampere installed base upgrading and with price performant RDNA lV products should be able to intercept to pick off some percent of that TU/GA to GB upgrade movement. The big issue is convincing ODM/AIBs to produce RDNA lV in sufficient volume after last generations primarily bottom shelf margin losses and the RDNA ll P@C bundle deal that kept AMD in the game from 15% to 7% share. The decision on production volume is entirely up to ODM/AIBs who of course have RDNA lV in house to make that production decision. I believe AMD will be successful clawing back to 18% share, 40% to 50% of all TU/GA uncertain. Intel also knows about the TU/GA upgrade stampede. Nvidia plans from 20% to 25% (33% tops) TU/GA replacement per year and over 2 years that's in the range of 200 M unit's so AMD wants 30 M to 40 M units of that taken at mid shelf, ok, but 40% to 50% of all TU/GA upgrade, well, AMD better have really good products to do that at the right price. On the right price subject ODM/AIBs, AMD that 'right price' cannot present a margin drag. mb

[@beyondspecs9401]

AMD RDNA4 - WHAT DO WE... DON'T CARE!! *FIXED*

[@Boorock70]

Don't worry, AMD will be pricing the 9070 XT so high that they'll "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity" 🤣

[@K.R.98]

Hardware is stagnating anyway. A RX6900XT delivers 75% of a RX7900XTX and 67% of a RTX4090. It’s all about game and software settings now.

[@MK-xc9to]

Lower your expectation to 4080 Performance and maybe AMD can deliver 4080 Performance to an attractive price point in the 600-800 USD Price Bracket and maybe the RT Performance could be slightly higher than a 4080 . Forget the 4090 , AMD will not sell cheap GPUs with that kind of Performance for under 1000 USD

[@kingtuckgesus8879]

Love the video number one you got a few things wrong our DNA3 did not compete at the flagship level the top end card was a 7900 XTX that competed with the 4080 super (and beat it) they did not release a card to compete against the 4090 and if RDNA 4 restricts FSR4 to the past two generation of cards that will be on par for what happens in the GPU market I mean look at Nvidia, also while they are not competing on the flagship level the The 9070 XT has a higher benchmark than the 6900 XT which is still today a 4K card I think people need to keep that in mind when they're discussing it getting a 4K card with capable rate tracing and 2025 for $500 would be acceptable if it's more than that they have lost their mind😂

[@JeffQueck-v2v]

do you think rdna 4 is rdna 2 refresh because 2 was strong and no chiplet.

[@CM0G]

It is exactly that! This is the real successor of 6700xt

[@_MoRZiLLo50]

AMD wil surprise in CES 2025 with a 8800XTX videocard....wait few hours to see yourself 🙂

[@mhult5873]

RDNA 4 with 4090 performance for a value/medium MSRP? No, that is not what I have seen rumored or believe is possible from AMD. But I would love if it is. I upgraded my GTX 1080 to 7900XTX and hope AMD will take market shares. I thought I got too little VRAM and memory bus performance from Nvidia and at a horrible MSRP of 1200 USD for the 4080. Br

[@PigeonPlucker]

AMD won a LOT of fans with the 7900 XTX. Particularly the VRAM of the 7000 series as a whole. I feel anything which defers from this strategy would be a mistake. AMD should do what AMD does best. 90% of the competitors performance for 60% of the price.

[@ZackSNetwork]

No they didn’t the 4090 outsold that thing 4 to 1. Even the worse selling 40 series card being the 4080 destroyed it in sells.

[@HoretzYT]

thats why i started searching for a good deal on a XTX so i can play in 4K after i read all the leaks that 9070XT will have only 16GB VRAM and will be maybe strong as a 7900XT

[@PigeonPlucker]

@@ZackSNetwork The ratio was actually closer to 2.5:1 which, for a cutting edge flagship product, is a huge success for AMD. - Additionally, from the gaming sector, the 70XX series did see their market share increase by 2-3%, but this was almost exclusively driven by the 7900 XTX. - You appear to be approaching this from erroneous standpoint of AMD and Nvidia being equals in the GPU market.

[@Phil_529]

Reality check: 4080S was $999 and 7900XTX was $999 before they were clearing out the inventory. They trade blows in raster. The 4080S is 230% faster when running a path traced workload. This "90% of performance for 60% of the price" is some serious fanboy talk.

[@PigeonPlucker]

@@Phil_529 The 7900XTX was $999 MSRP on release 2 years ago. The 4080 Super matched it over a year later! The 40XX Supers were released, like the 20XX series, to cover up for the total failure of the original launch line up. And boy did a lot of people, once again, eat up that PR. As things stand right now, you can get a 7900 XTX for around $200-$300 less than a 4080 Super which in terms of cost per frame is significantly better value for money. Oh, and I own a Nvidia graphics card. Just saying...

[@weirdodude1173]

9070 XT should be a good card, but really it all depends on the price. At $499 USD it would be pretty awesome, but at $599 not so much. I'm expecting a bit better than 7900 GRE performance baseline, with FSR 4 pumping it up over 7900 XT and 4070 Ti. Maybe it will be even better, who knows. Thumbs up!

[@raven80wolfx2]

7900 xtx ray tracing was at the level of 3090. It's not bad, but not great. Once you add path tracing forget about it. I love my 7900 xtx, but lower end gpus make more sense for the current landscape of pc.

[@Phil_529]

Phantom Liberty 1440p with Ultra RT... 3090 39.6fps, 7900XTX 33.1fps. 20% win for 3090.

[@raven80wolfx2]

@@Phil_529 Also another big reason why that game specifically favors nvidia. This is based on test between bunch of games.

[@johnboylan3832]

​@@Phil_529That is one game.

[@Phil_529]

@@johnboylan3832 Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart will show the same thing. Anything path traced will exaggerate the issue even more. RDNA3 is good until the RT load is too heavy. Most games are designed with console RT in mind so it’s usually a pretty light implementation.

[@johnboylan3832]

@@Phil_529 That's two games and you are now adding qualifiers. The real point you are touching on is correct though: the averages used in benchmarks are not useful if you have a large spread, as you do with the 3090 and 7900xtx. I'd say the 7900xt and xtx will be fine at 1440p going forwards as, due to the PS5, games will not use heavy RT as standard and they will still look fine. I had a 4090 until last week, and honestly, path-tracing and all that is overrated. I found myself prefering games from the PS4 generation as they still look good and run really well. My 4090 needed DLSS and frame gen to get high frame rates in pathtraced games.

[@dikkie1120]

Where are you talking about , the rumors are not even as fast as the rtx 4080.

[@razzorj9899]

Theyre targeting roughly 4080 performance not 4090 lets not get to delusional here i would love 4090 performance for 500 but ill take 4080 for 500 i have an xtx so probably sitting this generation out but would love to see this performance tier come down to 500

[@CM0G]

If it was really 4080 perf they would charge 600$. But it's actually going to be max 7900xt perf and they will have to charge 500$ max.

[@zeick9]

If fsr 4 made 7900xtx just 25% better at ray tracing, it would be a half priced 4090.

[@RobertFromEarth]

The "problem" with AMD's strategy is that Nvidia just have to lower its prices and this whole middle range market push by AMD won't happen. Also, AMD has to learn to better market their cards. I mean, gamers are still buying 8GB cards from Nvidia even if AMD's offer is better in the lower/mid segments.

[@sebastienseb3943]

sorry, you mean rtx4080 level, not 4090...(AMD fan here)

[@sebastienseb3943]

it would be amazing to ve 4090 level!

[@Valk-Kilmer]

AMD isn't targeting the 4090 they are targeting the 4080 and below.

[@jayruka1977]

Grabbed a ~$680 7900xt from Amazon (delivering in 2 weeks) just in case the 9070xt under delivers for too much (i can see them releasing at ~$650 saying its cheaper than what 7900xt released at and less than the 4070ti Super).. if it drops at $500-$550 and is better than the 7900xt, ill just cancel and reorder..

[@johnboylan3832]

I just bought a 7900xt for £620 as I know that Nvidia will be extra greedy this generation and AMD are not going to release anything much faster than the 7900xt for much less money. Even if it is as performant as the 7900xt for £100 less, it will be more expensive in the UK and it will be bought up by scalpers.

[@diuran1919]

If they make a card that can challenge 4080 then ok.

[@Обовсём-э9х]

Screw Nvidia. I am rooting for Intel's and AMD's market share to grow big time.

[@west5385]

If the RX 9070 XT has raster Performance close to a 4080 and the 5070 is closer to a 4070 ti super I will go with AMD.

[@oswaldjh]

AMD will overprice these cards like they always do killing any early sales. They will smarten up and discount the price after everyone has bought Nvidia, and then wonder why they don't have market share.

[@edhorseman2237]

Nvidia fanboys are gonna fanboy regardless. AMD is smart to start selling too high because you can always lower prices but if you start to low you can't raise Prices after the fact without a whole bunch of bad press

[@oswaldjh]

@@edhorseman2237 Like I said, too high a price will hurt sales and by the time you lower the price, everyone has already upgraded their GPU.

[@edhorseman2237]

@@oswaldjh reread my message because it makes sense when you actually understand what I said, it covers everything you said. Don't think you're too smart.

[@liberteus]

@@edhorseman2237 Not everybody is a fanboy, and for them price is very important. That's where you compete. Of course nvidia has a 60% guaranteed market, but what about the rest? the rest gets influenced by the fanboys and the reviews. When reviews tell people a product is "meh" (7600xt, 7700xt, 7900xt, 7900xtx were all "meh" at launch cause of poor pricing) amd loses the opportunity to make a dent in nvidia's market share. (I know so many people who told me they bought an nvidia card... a girl playing a game ultrawide using... FSR performance with a 4070Ti! she knows NOTHING about computers and bought the card because "it is better". Another dude told me he bought the 4070TiSuper for 1200euros and was proud about it. Yeah, so many people get swindled.)

[@edhorseman2237]

@liberteus people that know nothing and computers and buy Nvidia do it because the fanboys influence their decision. Nvidia spends significantly more on marketing too, further influencing people's decisions. You must be a fanboy with the way you're shilling for Nvidia. Nvidia stinks, objectively, when you look at price to performance. There's no way in hell what they're selling, even at their bleeding edge, is worth what they're charging. Nvidia overcharges significantly more than AMD but you're okay with paying for it even when their extra bells and whistles drop frame rate by at least 33%.

[@oneanother1]

What sucks is amd doesn't are in the position of pricing their GPUs higher, believe me if they could they would, instead they elect to follow nvidias GPUs pricing making it appear as you might be getting the better deal. Instead amd GPUs aren't at the lvl nvidiia GPUs are, even if raster performance is on par. Amd can't complete because they lack sufficient software support for every use case. There ai performance is way behind, non gaming support isn't as good as well. Amd GPUs are so bad that they aren't even banned to sell in China. Amd knows they aren't going to gain marketshare, and aren't even focus on making gaming GPUs competitive anymore.

[@napalmarsch]

i want one my 6800xt needs a retire

[@doublecrossedswine112]

amd announces they won't be competing in the high end. This guy thinks the 8070 will be close to the 4090 in raster. Some1 just punch me in the face. How did we ever get anywhere as a species?

[@RoyBrown777]

"AMD we are not chasing high end." This guy months later "Will AMD take the performance crown".

[@stevenanderson3205]

Or team blue.

[@csh9853]

you said nothing.

[@mx-gaming87]

FSR 4.0 what ever GPUs can use this ... make it happen to upscale from Software Adrenalin and dont care about lazy Developers put this in game on settings. That the only move you can stop Exclusive DLSS Dominated to much. FSR 3.1 had good quality, but not much use this. So what the point of upscaling when a game dont have it. What about playing older games agian... but this time on 4k or even 8K Tv if you have one... when its from drivers the upscaling. I dont know if this is impossible to make it happen or they dont think into the future. Lazy Game Developers or even payed from Nvidida Developers dont care if AMD has this upscaling tech in game... so for Gamers thing crap need to stop and make a lot of gamers happy to keep gpus longer. Then i can see that million of gamers, comes to AMD for better Price/Performance. Its crazy that AMD dont make some bold move to chance, their chance on the Market. If FSR 4.0 is not from software... than i dont see a green light for games.

[@bestofmusicchannel]

If AMD will not be aggressive with price won't do much yet another generation! For example if they try to sell me a 9070 XT up to 599 or even more is a big nono automatically! And this marketing crap of " we aiming 4080 performance " to excuse the high price is terrible approach. 4080 is one generation older AND 5070 will be close too so.. cut the crap.

[@CM0G]

4080 perf ~ 5070ti perf (not 5070). If they where to match that perf they would comfortably sell @600$! They won't though, 9070xt will be at max 7900xt perf, or just faster than the "tiny" ~230mm2 5070 and won't sell for more that 500$

[@liberteus]

@@CM0G 600$ when 7900XT was routinely around 620USD with 20gb? So we'd get around same perf level; less vram; years after the 7900xt is out? It's either 499 with 7900xt or above perf or DOA. And most likely given Awful Marketing Department they'll price the card a good 100$ MORE and will get mixed reviews if not negative reviews. When people search youtube they'll find all the videos titled something like "9070 Meh" or "9070 two years late" or "9070 is just rebranded 7900" and they'll pass.

[@CM0G]

@liberteus This card will sell or not based on how it performs compared to 5070 not the 7900xtgrextx.............

[@liberteus]

@@CM0G obviously! When you can't even win against your own previous gen there is NO WAY you're competitive in the market! That's why the card needs to be priced accordingly, but AMD will fumble it again.

[@UltimateAssetoRaces]

I know you’ve probably heard it before, but i think you should dye your hair. 🙃

[@eTeknix]

More grey?

[@Machistmo]

Today ...lol likely targeting the TWO thousand dollar market.. Oh look Nvidia pretty graphic w/o ANY performance numbers - NO explanation of what it was or what it was running on.. Nvidia man... We are green give us yours..

[@filipzelenka8082]

Lots of Bull shits no fact about RDNA4.... Just video for ending noob

[@l0rd0fs1n]

When you are a tech channel and show steam charts :)))) Stop using that stupid crap of a chart.

[@dennythescar80s8]

I wait for 2026 hardware for now. This year will be meh...

[@ZackSNetwork]

For AMD Radeon yeah.