AMD's biggest problem is AMD: RX 7600 XT vs RX 6700 XT- The Ultimate Comparison!!!

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Daniel Owen

Daniel Owen

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@RomanBellicTaxi
@RomanBellicTaxi 6 ай бұрын
AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
@lixxor6
@lixxor6 6 ай бұрын
For real..
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks 6 ай бұрын
Ah, silly AMD, giving easy money and customers to their competitor, AMD. If not for AMD's poor pricing, AMD would've never gotten that money!
@tnbn55
@tnbn55 6 ай бұрын
Like the 7600 xt's 128-bit bus vs 6700 xt's 192-bit bus. Or AMD cards having a lot less Shaders than Nvidia rival cards, slower core clock & memory speed.
@johndelabretonne2373
@johndelabretonne2373 6 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more...
@NGreedia
@NGreedia 6 ай бұрын
Amd had an opportunity to undercut nvidia by a tier like the discounts they gave on 6000 series for the past 2 years but they aren't doing that with 7000 at all
@adlibconstitution1609
@adlibconstitution1609 6 ай бұрын
In my country 7600xt is $100 more expensive than the 6700xt. It is NO BRAINER to choose 6700xt.
@metalface_villain
@metalface_villain 6 ай бұрын
thats a big mistake. im not saying get the 7600 bit if you are buying a card right now you should go with the 7000 series since it appears the new ai upscaler will only be available for those
@takehirolol5962
@takehirolol5962 6 ай бұрын
What country?
@adlibconstitution1609
@adlibconstitution1609 6 ай бұрын
@@takehirolol5962 Philippines, here 6700xt is $279 and 7600xt is $378
@Kotnan
@Kotnan 6 ай бұрын
GTA 6 may use 16 vram at high settings idk
@Kotnan
@Kotnan 6 ай бұрын
The only reason more vram would be useful
@Beginnergamer1823
@Beginnergamer1823 6 ай бұрын
In the UK the 6750XT is actually cheaper then the 6700XT and the same price as the 7600XT but the RX 6800 is 370-380
@ThePirateParrot
@ThePirateParrot 6 ай бұрын
The rx6800 is the best deal on the market in the UK. it's a great 1440p card.
@iitzfizz
@iitzfizz 6 ай бұрын
Aye, my budget was £350 max, managed to pick up the XFX QICK 6750 XT from Ebuyer for £330, great price to performance...Nothing else under £350 makes sense.
@mathewheaps4086
@mathewheaps4086 6 ай бұрын
@@iitzfizz Very similar to you - but I picked up the MSI 6750XT Mech 2X for £320 from ebuyer. Solid upgrade from my Gigabyte GTX1080Ti which sadly died on me, and eons better than the 970 I was using for like 3 weeks as a backup card!
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 6 ай бұрын
😂
@ashf585
@ashf585 6 ай бұрын
I'm trying to sell my Asus TUF RX 6800 XT which is literally the best version of the card you can get that isn't watercooled, boxed with all original accessories and documents for £400 and nobody is buying 😭It's never even been opened up and has never been over stressed and always undervolted. I keep getting dumba**es trying to offer me £250 and £300 for it and it's getting annoying.
@Workaholic42
@Workaholic42 6 ай бұрын
7700 XT should have been in the same price ballpark as 6700 XT in the first place, to be a real successor. Hopefully this will take place now that 6700 XT stock has dried up
@The11devans
@The11devans 6 ай бұрын
Yep. The 6700XT eventually became a worthy replacement for the 5700XT, hopefully the 700XT will do the same thing to the 6700XT.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 6 ай бұрын
It got an official price cut to 420 or 400$ I think. Why couldn't AMD have launched it at that price to begin with ?? We'll never know.
@BearfootBob
@BearfootBob 6 ай бұрын
it's happening now. There is one $330 6700XT model left on Newegg, and the rest are going $360-400. 7700XT is now $410 with a coupon.
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 6 ай бұрын
​@@BearfootBob$410 is trash pricing when you can get 6800 for less
@Birdman._.
@Birdman._. 6 ай бұрын
​@@joshholmes1372with more vram,same if not better fps
@qqq060
@qqq060 6 ай бұрын
so glad I got me a 6700 xt, purchased it almost a year ago now and never looked back
@jon3612
@jon3612 5 ай бұрын
I'm glad I got mine too. But I paid like 520 for it. Was mad at the time. But very satisfied
@_Lassic_
@_Lassic_ 4 ай бұрын
Same, paid $360 a year ago
@subhanmustehsan
@subhanmustehsan 2 ай бұрын
can you play old games smoothly like direct x9 ones ? do you have any driver problems
@2301washere
@2301washere 2 ай бұрын
​@@subhanmustehsan i have 6600 xt and can tell that if u have decent single core cpu performance (4.5+ cpu freq), then u can play with no issues old dx9 titles. the main problem is that amd have driver overhead on dx9 titles
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 6 ай бұрын
You could even find 6800 non XT for similar price. You'd have to be nuts to buy 7600xt over 6800 non xt or 6700xt
@syncmonism
@syncmonism 6 ай бұрын
I convinced a friend of a friend to get the 6800 a few months ago instead of the 6700 XT because the price was so close in my country at that point in time (about 50 CAD or 35 USD iirc). The cheapest 6800 model also seemed to be of significantly higher quality than any of the well priced 6700 XT models that were available.
@rickmorrisonthreethirty3x254
@rickmorrisonthreethirty3x254 6 ай бұрын
I went with the 6800xt and it's performance is fantastic. I put the 6700xt in my wife's rig and it's insanely good as well.
@commandertoothpick8284
@commandertoothpick8284 6 ай бұрын
6800 non xt is non existent in my country. Had to setttle for 6700xt
@Ivan80054
@Ivan80054 6 ай бұрын
​@@commandertoothpick8284And u still have really good GPU.
@Kapucino2
@Kapucino2 6 ай бұрын
don't think so. the cheapest 6800 in Poland is 150% price of 6700 XT
@NGreedia
@NGreedia 6 ай бұрын
problem is there's little to no 6700xt stock remaining and what remains has been jacked up in prices here in Canada.
@goncalobatel149
@goncalobatel149 6 ай бұрын
Same where I'm from. As 6700XT stock is lower and lower, the current price is almost at its msrp price again
@syncmonism
@syncmonism 6 ай бұрын
Retailers don't seem to know how to price their cards a lot of the time.
@jamesmcd71
@jamesmcd71 6 ай бұрын
That's why AMD stopped making the 6700xt and the 6850xt. Both were better than anything on the market under $1000.00
@DanielHarris42024
@DanielHarris42024 6 ай бұрын
Marketplace my guy. $200 2 mo. ago.
@wishwewere1256
@wishwewere1256 6 ай бұрын
Get 6750 XT then
@tehfoxxy9630
@tehfoxxy9630 6 ай бұрын
Intel's enemy is drivers AMD's enemy is it self Nvidia's enemy is common sense
@GreyDeathVaccine
@GreyDeathVaccine 19 күн бұрын
Ngreedia.
@jamesmcd71
@jamesmcd71 6 ай бұрын
I got a 6700xt when I built my PC with the intention to replace it because the current generation of gpus were about 6 months away. Well, it's been over a year, and nothing as of today has been introduced to the market that's better than the 6700xt. Without spending over $1000.00
@BearfootBob
@BearfootBob 6 ай бұрын
4070 super. 7800XT. Last I checked those are nowhere near $1000.
@jamesmcd71
@jamesmcd71 6 ай бұрын
@BearfootBob and neither one preform better than the 6700xt. Without looking at the small improvement in fps, you can't tell the difference between the 6700xt and the new and improved 4070 super. The facts are to achieve a noticeable improvement, you need to jump up to the 4080 or the 7900xt. The average person can't tell the difference between a gpu that gives you 100 fps and 110 fps. Small improvements are more noticeable under 60 fps.
@Tobsen179
@Tobsen179 6 ай бұрын
In my opinion it all depends on the resolution you game at and one's own ability to operate the quality sliders.. Up to 1440p the 6700xt can cope with most of the stuff you throw at it at medium to high settings, yup
@F0zek
@F0zek 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesmcd71 Bro 4070 super is faster by 60%, and 7800xt is faster by 48%.
@Iridiumcosmos
@Iridiumcosmos 6 ай бұрын
@@BearfootBobthose are also $500 - $650 GPUs. In that regard, you missed the OP’s point entirely.
@nunysnips
@nunysnips 6 ай бұрын
15:50 The frametime having constant spikes in Baldur's Gate 3 on RDNA cards can be corrected by using the Vulkan API instead of DX12. 1% lows will be much better.
@mraltoid19
@mraltoid19 6 ай бұрын
To be fair, the 7600XT is the successor of the 6650XT, but price-wise, the 6700XT makes more sense. I've been very surprised by the performance of the 6650XT, as it performs faster than a 2080-Super at this point and can be found for $200~. 7600XT would also be interesting to compare to the 5700XT, half the power-usage for about the same performance is my guess.
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 6 ай бұрын
4060 beats the 7600xt and is $30 cheaper lmao
@patek2385
@patek2385 6 ай бұрын
@@iequalsnoobVram count makes 4060 not even considerable...
@mikehawk6918
@mikehawk6918 6 ай бұрын
@@iequalsnoob laughing at your own stupidity here
@yashukothapalli3285
@yashukothapalli3285 6 ай бұрын
@@iequalsnoob 4060 is wose than 3060 w all honesty lmao
@rohanchooramun7288
@rohanchooramun7288 6 ай бұрын
You should probably revert back your Msi RivaTuner to how it was way before. It's much easier to see the FPS counters and the frametime graph near each other.
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 6 ай бұрын
4:02 Tiny Daniel still has a massive impact for us pc gamers 🥰💪🥳👍
@darkkingastos4369
@darkkingastos4369 6 ай бұрын
AV1 encoders is what pushed me into the 7600xt. It makes production soooo much better and being a 1080p gamer I get plenty of fps on all my games. I can run better ai models too
@selohcin
@selohcin 6 ай бұрын
What kind of production do you do? I've been wondering why people would buy this card.
@darkkingastos4369
@darkkingastos4369 6 ай бұрын
Davinci for video editing and Stable diffusion for fun. plus I want to make sure I can 1080p game for tne next 3 years without running out of vram. Plus I really don't want to buy Jensen any more jackets if I can help it@@selohcin
@miloszgramolxd3764
@miloszgramolxd3764 6 ай бұрын
6700 xt have av1 too
@selohcin
@selohcin 6 ай бұрын
@@miloszgramolxd3764 Decoding only, not encoding.
@darky799
@darky799 6 ай бұрын
​​@@miloszgramolxd3764 i think only new rtx 4000, rx 7000 and intel gpus have av1 "encoder" for now
@Garjor
@Garjor 14 күн бұрын
I appreciate the resource. The first thing I noticed during the Robocop comparison was the 6700 XT's warmer temperature by 15 °C.
@JasonChen927
@JasonChen927 6 ай бұрын
My 6700XT performs better in Starfield at 1440P than yours at 1080P...
@danielowentech
@danielowentech 6 ай бұрын
The starfield result did seem odd, so I checked at the end of the video to be sure other reviewers were also seeing the 7600 xt ahead in starfield, and they were. Exact numbers aren't comparable since they are not testing the same scene. For reference, this testing was performed when the FSR 3 and lighting changes had just been added as a beta update to Starfield, which I was using at the time so I could include FSR 3.
@shyamlok
@shyamlok 6 ай бұрын
128-bit wheelchair vs an actual gaming gpu :)
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 6 ай бұрын
it is not memory interface issue. you can give 7600XT 256bit and it is still going to be slower than 6700XT.
@djGLCKR
@djGLCKR 6 ай бұрын
It's the maxed-out Navi 33 die that's the problem with the card, not the memory bandwidth.
@shyamlok
@shyamlok 6 ай бұрын
Entire thing is a joke as a generational uplift. Either memory bus, efficiency rdna 2 is actually superior. Even rasterisation, they had the perfect opportunity to counter a 4060 and the 4060 ti. Instead they realised that they have too much rdna 2 stock, if this one is more powerful then a lot of problems will arise in midrange.
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 6 ай бұрын
​@@arenzricodexd4409with double the bandwidth, the 7600 XT would gain 10% across the board especially at higher resolution and more VRAM hungry games where you need to access more vram to render each frame. That being said.. the GPU die is indeed too small to put up much a fight against a GPU with a lot larger die even on an inferior node. 128 vs 160 bit is fairly insignificant but still 25% is useful in these intensive scenarios.
@Scott99259
@Scott99259 6 ай бұрын
Amd might release ai upscaling for only rdna 3.
@mattirealm
@mattirealm 6 ай бұрын
The GPU space needs better competition than this. The RT and FSR performance is far behind Nvidia at this point. And I know that people will be quick to point out that these don't matter........but they kinda do matter! As Daniel has said before, competition doesn't really matter if it is bad competition. I still can't understand how AMD is doing a great job in the CPU department but meh in the GPU department. I would like to say that RDNA 4 will fix a lot of this, but we don't know that and FSR needs a BUNCH more work as well.
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 6 ай бұрын
You can master one path or be jack of all trades master of none. AMD being CPU company first simply choose CPU as primary focus. In fact they acquire ATI to realize their APU dream and push discrete gpu into ultra niche thing just like what on board audio did to dedicated sound card. Plus the opponent is nvidia which is.....not intel. Nvidia never stops even when the competitor are behind. We saw RDNA and RDNA2 closing the gap with nvidia because nvidia was using inferior node for two generations.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 5 ай бұрын
I don't get why these older AMD cards are cheaper even though they have bigger chips and use more energy than the newer cards, making the boards and dies more expensives, in the case of the 6800, it even has more memory than the 7700XT and in the case of the 6700xt, it actually performs better than the 7600xt by over 10%. Whoever buys the 7700XT is basically trowing money away, just get a 6800 or even a 6800xt.
@hoffyc.h393
@hoffyc.h393 6 ай бұрын
I have 6700XT Red Devil, and it's A 1440p Beast :D with FSR 2, you can get 120-144 FPS in all Games high/ultra settings.
@andalore_1
@andalore_1 6 ай бұрын
Nitro+ 6700XT also :D . It was lucky that I got it, I bought it new 6 months ago with a 3-year warranty. One of the best cards.
@terence3769
@terence3769 6 ай бұрын
I bought the 6700xt when it first came out for about 450 euro's, and it still runs so strong in 1440p, replaced the RTX 2070 super I had at the time and still so happy and not looking to replace it any time soon
@imp9ct239
@imp9ct239 6 ай бұрын
i got a 6700xt in mint condition used for 180$ on fb market for my wife's pc build I'm happy I made the move, great video love when you compare best bang for buck gpu videos
@matheusdossantos6724
@matheusdossantos6724 6 ай бұрын
how its going in games? I'm just searching for one right now in the used market.
@imp9ct239
@imp9ct239 6 ай бұрын
@@matheusdossantos6724 well which game I play a large variety of
@OpsMasterWoods
@OpsMasterWoods 6 ай бұрын
My 6700 XT just arrived today,I'm very glad that I got one since they're starting to run out of stock ,also about 20-30$ cheaper than 7600 XT..... (6700 XT costed $391,I'm in Europe so....)
@Ivan80054
@Ivan80054 6 ай бұрын
I bought mine 1 year ago for 420 euros, 12GB version of RX 6700 XT. I am very happy for now. My next goal is to get RX 7900 GRE, simply i think it is great card comparing price with performance. I hope price will drop down about 10 % in incoming months.
@100500daniel
@100500daniel 6 ай бұрын
7600 XT will be good when it's around 269$ like it should've been
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 6 ай бұрын
It's not even an xt, it's just 7600 16 gb.
@OrjonZ
@OrjonZ 6 ай бұрын
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Not really. 7600 XT probably get better binned dies that can clock higher.
@lharsay
@lharsay 6 ай бұрын
So after RDNA4 launch.... People really should stop complaining about heavily discounted last gen parts being the best deal. Just buy them while you can, that's it. If the new gen was really that bad as some people try to present it then the RX6700XT would still be selling close to it's $480 MSRP as they would have no reason to discount it.
@100500daniel
@100500daniel 6 ай бұрын
@@lharsay Probably after RDNA4 launch. AMD isn't aggressive enough with prices , and their prices always fall down due to market demand. The 6700 XT launched at a time were prices were inflated and stocks were very low. Also we have so many options in the 7600 XT performance class. You've got the 3060Ti, the 6700, the 6700 XT, the 6750 XT, even the 6800 to some extent. It's just a bad deal. They launched the 7700 XT and 7900 XT for abysmal prices that were dropped as well. At the end of the day consumers aren't stupid and know when they're being ripped off.
@lloydc5736
@lloydc5736 6 ай бұрын
😊 Picked up a RX 6750 XT new on sale at $329 awhile back after ditching Nvidia, game on 1440P with no issues, 6750 XT appears in the testing I've seen here on KZbin offers 10 to +20 FPS more than the 7600 TX, only pro factor I can see for the RX 7600 XT over the 6750 XT, is that it has AI capability in it as all the RX 7000 series GPU's unlike the RX 6000 series, as AMD has been listing AI assisted programing being promoted in the future, but time will tell!
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 6 ай бұрын
Eh, the whole AI shtick while definitely cool, is probably not worth it getting a less performant GPU at the same price for. Especially when you're big on AI dabbling, you'd likely not even look at any AMD GPU anyway because Nvidia's offerings in that space are WAY more convenient.
@ozzie2545
@ozzie2545 6 ай бұрын
Problem is the 6700XT stocks are almost dried up....
@gon720
@gon720 6 ай бұрын
I generally don't understand why they make gpus that have simular performance to something from the last gen they already made when they can just continue to sell that.
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 6 ай бұрын
To bring faster performance on cheaper price point? That's how it was supposed to be but since 28nm it become harder to do that. For example GTX480 (which is nvidia 400 series flagship in 2010) have similar performance to 750Ti that released in 2014. But 750ti being a sub 75w gpu is a lot cheaper to build than 480 that use 260w of power. Most budget builder probably prefer to use low wattage PSU as well so even if nvidia keep making 480 (but only cut it's price as time goes by) budget builder still need to buy high wattage PSU that usually used by high end gaming pc of that time. So keep pushing the same hardware eventually not an ideal solution for it's intended market.
@martytube821
@martytube821 6 ай бұрын
There seems to be more 6750xt which are around $330 and 5% faster vs 6700xt. Some of those games don't seem optimized on the 6700xt as power usage is way down.
@AndyViant
@AndyViant 6 ай бұрын
For the same price as a 6700XT they're worth it. But not really for much more, they use a lot more power, and you could just o/c a 6700xt.
@GRudeger
@GRudeger 6 ай бұрын
Where are you people finding these prices?! If I could get a 6700xt at $400 I'd consider it. Where the fu(k are you seeing it for $300?!
@eddiebelmont4819
@eddiebelmont4819 6 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I did noticed constant stutters when I played Alan Wake 2 on my 6700XT sadly. Also i had more stutters when playing on the lowest settings for some reason
@yeetyawyeet8981
@yeetyawyeet8981 6 ай бұрын
CPU problem
@tek1645
@tek1645 6 ай бұрын
@@yeetyawyeet8981 Did you watch the video....?
@chicken8951
@chicken8951 2 ай бұрын
@@tek1645 you sound like you don't know about pc at all. all you think is that having a best gpu is enough for fps and to make a pc beast. well you're not wrong but bottleneck is a part of this stupid
@Himmelswolf1
@Himmelswolf1 Ай бұрын
tray to set texture to high .
@jumpman1213
@jumpman1213 6 ай бұрын
The 6700XT is cheaper, faster, and also a better overclocker. And in an RDNA2 fashion, it responds pretty well to undervolting which improves its efficiency too. It's a no brainer, really. I don't think the 7600XT has a place as it stands.
@jaimelapolitique349
@jaimelapolitique349 5 ай бұрын
Two things : First, there IS one area in which the 7600X beats the 6700X consistently : thermals. It is usually around 60/65°C, when the older one is 80+ °C Probably influences noise and consumption as well. Secondly : older games perform better with older hardware, newer ones with newer hardware, showing it is less about raw power (amount of ram etc.) than herding customers towards the newer stuff everytime 😉
@cpt.mccartman
@cpt.mccartman 6 ай бұрын
Is TGP (total graphics power) reporting the consumed power by the entire graphics cards? Because my 6750XT‘s power consumption report is exactly the same as the TGP report in hwinfo64, give or take 5W. And the results of Alan Wake 2 show a significant drop of power consumption of the 6700XT (as low as 83W) which might hint to a lower than 99/100% GPU usage (which wasn‘t displayed this time) and could cause the uneven framtime graph. Same with Starfield and Ratchet an Clank at first (just not as low wattage). I could imagine there being a driver related issue as AMD likes to f*ck up their drivers… As usual a very well made Video :) Keep up the good work!
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 6 ай бұрын
AMD card only report power of GPU core and VRM. by design AMD did not put sensors to measure power used by other parts on the GPU. Even RDNA 3 still like this. So any software reporting on AMD GPU power usage usually show less than what AMD GPU are actually using.
@mikehawk6918
@mikehawk6918 6 ай бұрын
@@arenzricodexd4409 >AMD did not put sensors to measure power used by other parts on the GPU Not true at all. HWiNFO64 shows memory power for my 6600. It's about 10% of the core power consumption.
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 6 ай бұрын
@@mikehawk6918 not sure if that is from real sensor or just approximation from hwinfo because by default AMD did not put those extra sensor. this is why in many videos AMD GPU are seen using less power than what usually reported by reviewer.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 5 ай бұрын
​@@arenzricodexd4409from what I know RDNA3 shows total board power now
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 6 ай бұрын
10:17 I think it’s with the 6700XT lows is optimisation related ….. look at the different power usage on the GPU (yes the 6000 series may underreport power …. But it’s still a bit lower than the 7600XT) resulting on a lower fps … hmmm 🧐 🤔
@Aetherbound
@Aetherbound 6 ай бұрын
i feel like the 7600xt is one of those cards that could be good, if amd did more. But it seems like they marketed it for more of "ai" and the hyper rx feature. Should be at $300 and the 7600 should be $250.
@yissnakklives8866
@yissnakklives8866 6 ай бұрын
Try this for a dilemma : Rx6800XT looked to be having issues and the options are either another used 6800xt for ~$400, a 6950 XT for ~$550 (better performance) or a new 7800XT with the same perf as the 6800XT but for also ~$550....thank GAWD a bios update to the GPU fixed it. (Asus TUF Gaming OC - if you get a black screen and reboot or hang and you have to power off the PC to get the display back, AND it may tell you in the Adrenalin platform tells you that SAM is unavailable, even though its on in bios, updating the bios on the GPU fixed this AND dropped hotspot temps by about 15C)
@rickmorrisonthreethirty3x254
@rickmorrisonthreethirty3x254 6 ай бұрын
The FE AMD gpu cooling is not the greatest. The AIB coolers are much better. Especially with a more aggressive fan curve.
@killerwestwolfgaming353
@killerwestwolfgaming353 9 күн бұрын
I have a 6700xt with a 5600x 16gb of ram on a 1440p monitor and it is heaven this card crushes most games holds up to 400 plus dollar cards in performance ❤ love that card so much
@aarlavaan
@aarlavaan 6 ай бұрын
so what I am seeing is that neither of these are worth replacing my 5700xt red devil with yet.
@BearfootBob
@BearfootBob 6 ай бұрын
yeah cards like that and the 2060 etc. are plenty for the majority of PC Gamers ( my guesstimate is that most PC Gamers globally don't buy or play AAA games, AAA and ray tracing is a rich person's niche of PC Gaming and yes the bellweather for where the specs will be going in 5-10 years for the rest of the world)
@AndyViant
@AndyViant 6 ай бұрын
the 7800xt or 7900 gre would do. Remember the 5700XT was THE TOP DOG for AMD for it's generation. The 6700XT was basically the bottom of the product stack* on it's release, and the 7600 was the bottom of the product stack on it's release and the 7600XT is a bare minimum overclock. As such, you shouldn't have been expecting huge generational gains, but the jump from a 5700XT to a 6700XT is still larger than you realise. * The 6600, 6500 etc all came later
@aarlavaan
@aarlavaan 6 ай бұрын
@@AndyViant sure, I get that. not saying I think the higher tier cards (800 or 900 class) wouldn't be an upgrade, or worth looking at. merely that these two cards in particular are not worth my time given how well my 2017 card still performs. going by passmark's benches the 6700xt is a moderate upgrade, but not enough to really warrant buying a new card yet. and the 7600 xt is even less of an upgrade though I don't expect a lower class card to be much of an upgrade, even if it is 2 generations newer. As is, I can run all the games I am interested in right now at 1440p, custom ultra settings over 100 fps, and in 1080p well over 200. until I find a newer game that I can't hit those numbers with I really don't see any reason to get another card unless it offers a drastic improvement. that being said, I have been looking at the xfx speedster merc 7800xt, and thinking that might be my next card. keep seeing good things about it, and the price is around what I want to spend. but it will most likely be a while, given that my 3600x will almost certainly bottleneck it, so I need to upgrade THAT first. yeah, my pc is significantly outdated but hey... if it ain't broke, don't fix it! :)
@maarkusssssss
@maarkusssssss 5 ай бұрын
They're the same price in the us on amazon😭
@Солембум
@Солембум 6 ай бұрын
Well, since 6700xt cost 80$ more, 7600xt seems much better value here.
@kkrolik2106
@kkrolik2106 6 ай бұрын
Depends to country in UK RX 6750xt is 10% cheaper than RX 7600xt but to RX 6800 you need ad 20% more, on partpicker site in US difference between 7600x and 6700xt is $5 and RX 6800 cost 20% more
@Солембум
@Солембум 6 ай бұрын
@@kkrolik2106 Well, that's the situation in Chelyabinsk, Russia.
@Greenalex89
@Greenalex89 6 ай бұрын
The only reason I sold my Gigabyte 6700XT Eagle to a friend was because I wanted a GPU to max out my 5800x3D. I have the 7900xtx nitro+ now but the 6700XT Eagle is a very solid 1440p bang for buck card. Undervolted to 145W draw, low temps. Even without UV it never got hotter than 70 C°, quiet too.
@iKennethzki
@iKennethzki Ай бұрын
Thank you. well explained. Watching from Philippines
@thec0r379
@thec0r379 6 ай бұрын
Do you think it’s a driver problem? Hard to believe last gen card out performing the new card.
@BearfootBob
@BearfootBob 6 ай бұрын
same thing happened at same tier for Nvidia. 3060ti out-performs the 4060. And it's even worse if the motherboard uses PCIE 3.0
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 6 ай бұрын
​@@BearfootBob3060Ti is at 4060Ti level not 4060. Although there is issue with bandwidth on higher res PCIE 3.0 did not hamper 4060 performance that only limited to x8. It only hamper the performance once the game need start pulling system RAM for lack of VRAM. similar thing to RX6400/6500 4GB. the performance issue did not appear until more aggressive graphic setting being use to the point 4GB is not enough.
@jeffmorse645
@jeffmorse645 26 күн бұрын
The RX 7600 XT is still priced about $50 - $60 more than it should be six months later. It's like they don't want to sell them.
@ScottG-h4o
@ScottG-h4o 2 ай бұрын
People are going to hate me for saying this, but I managed to bag this card for around £170 on eBay. In perfect working condition 😂 The seller listed it as a RX 7600, but the photo of the card was Gigabytes newer cooler. I took a risk on a questionable listing and it paid off! Absolutely insane!! This card goes for well over £300 in the UK. I essentially got the card for around the same price as a RX 6600.
@genericyoutubeaccount579
@genericyoutubeaccount579 6 ай бұрын
I bought a 6700 xt for 1080p gaming. Unfortunately, I accidentally paired it with a 12700k and a 850 Watt PSU. That was not the best use of my money. Well at least I am set up for a gpu upgrade in 3 years.
@pkpnyt4711
@pkpnyt4711 6 ай бұрын
It's only a problem if you want to buy used or if the card is available in your area. In my area, all brand new 6700XT/6750XT are gone, any remaining stock/seller offering it are all overpriced. It's the same for the 6800, it's not cheaper used in my area.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 5 ай бұрын
Why is AW2 so shitty on the 6700xt?
@TheTryingDutchman
@TheTryingDutchman 6 ай бұрын
Rtx 3060 12gb vs Amd 7600xt would be a nice followup to this video i think
@allex_lyric
@allex_lyric 6 ай бұрын
People in Western countries earn 3-5 thousand dollars a month. Then they go to KZbin to see which videocard to buy, and the difference in cost of 100 dollars or 50 dollars has some meaning for them. And when you choose a motherboard, you count every 10 dollars... People in the rest of the world earn less than 1 thousand dollars, but buy 4070, 4080 and 4090, and to them your Western arguments about a 10-20 dollar or 50-100 dollar difference seem somehow absurd. Because you can buy yourself a 4080 every six months without much damage to your budget, but you make videos like this about the $100 difference
@Venlorz
@Venlorz 6 ай бұрын
in my country, most of 6000 series already is whopping around USD 818.72 (46000php) as it phase out and very few only available. Specifically only RX 6600 are still vastly available here pricing at USD 213.58 (12000php) :/ so it is 7600 XT for me pricing at USD 392.45 (22050php)
@JahonCross
@JahonCross 6 ай бұрын
Bought the 6700xt when it was as low as $299, and I'm happy I got it zero regrets 😌
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 6 ай бұрын
6950 XT @ $420. Nice
@fedepede04
@fedepede04 6 ай бұрын
The 7600 xt also have AI cores and av1 encoder. Amd have said that there will be an fsr updcaler using AI.
@primekiller5729
@primekiller5729 6 ай бұрын
The temperatures on the 7600xt runs about 10 degrees lower than the 6700xt.
@DanielHarris42024
@DanielHarris42024 6 ай бұрын
@1:08 - I picked up a used 6700xt for $200 CDN a couple of months ago and it's just fantastic. @20:02 With the exception of a few games, and notably games I have little interest in, my card is beating newer gen pretty easily. And at that price I can't be mad at the few it didn't excel in. Thanks for the in depth video as always. Really stoked to finish what I'm playing and get Robocop.
@OrjonZ
@OrjonZ 6 ай бұрын
The real telling will be once AMD releases their AI upscaler. If 7000 supports it but 6000 does not, 7600 XT will end up being the better bet.
@gleipnirfenrir
@gleipnirfenrir 6 ай бұрын
if rx 6500 xt sold beautifully, that rx 7600 xt was suppose to be rx 7500 xt, and the price will be beautiful too, too bad people mocking rx 6500 xt.
@JoseMariArceta
@JoseMariArceta 6 ай бұрын
Interesting that in resident evil 4 the 7600xt uses at most about 8gb in vram but the 6700xt uses almost all of its vram, this might be the cause of the significant advantage for the 6700xt. You can also see that the 7600xt clip uses more system ram as a consequence.
@benknapp3787
@benknapp3787 6 ай бұрын
This is interesting to me since I just came from the Xbox Series X (which is supposed to be equal to or lesser than a 6700XT) and I'm now running an overclocked Merc 310 7900XTX with a 7800X3D. I've already started running back certain games and the visual difference has been really fun to see.
@suprafastmafc
@suprafastmafc 2 ай бұрын
Recently got a 6700xt for my backup rig. $220, solid card.
@golgothgaba904
@golgothgaba904 6 ай бұрын
Something's weird in starfield and alan wake 2,in both we see the 6700XT having about 150/160 Watts usage when it should be 180 watts like other titles (both cards roughly consume the same, though i've seen 7600XT pike at 200 Watts one time on your benchmark...) Edit : Damn, your 6700XT even go as low as 87 watts something's wrong kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGnMkJVqo76serMsi=qvJ6UVl5rXhrtZJ_&t=745
@yes-gn4kn
@yes-gn4kn 6 ай бұрын
i believe he has a C5 revision card which has a tdp of 186w as opposed to the C1 revision that has the original 230w tdp, most people report the difference in performance is only 5-7% although this can easily be fixed by flashing the bios Edit: i have a C5 swft309 6700 xt and i can use morepowertool to change the bios but im scared of bricking the card lol, it has a bios switch tho and im not sure if the lift in performance is worth it, maybe i'll try raising the power limit by 10 each step up to 210, which is the power limit of the C1 cards
@golgothgaba904
@golgothgaba904 6 ай бұрын
@@yes-gn4kn yet, his card shouldn't go as low in consumption, 80 watts is far too low even for a brief period...
@danielowentech
@danielowentech 6 ай бұрын
Dips in watts like that can indicate the card is waiting for something else momentarily (driver, accessing system memory if going beyond VRAM buffer, CPU related tasks, loading assets, etc). I agree something seems odd, but all I can say is that it was repeatable in my testing, which involves multiple runs and game restarts as controls. Perhaps other game versions, driver versions, or test platforms would yield different results. It's always possible there could be issues with my particular 6700xt, but if it was a hardware issue I would expect it to show up in more games.
@HardyDimension
@HardyDimension 6 ай бұрын
That being said, 6700XT seems become a 1080p GPU now since newer games are more and more demanding or either the game not being optimized well. Still considering and indecisive whether upgrade my normal 1080p monitor to a 1080p gaming monitor or 1440p gaming monitor or not 😖😖
@yetischmetti9529
@yetischmetti9529 6 ай бұрын
I'd say go for the 1440p monitor, the 6700 xt still gives solid performance there with some compromises, and you can always go back down to 1080p on the same monitor if you want more fps.
@HardyDimension
@HardyDimension 6 ай бұрын
@@yetischmetti9529 Thanks for your reply. Even if I am having a 1440p monitor, I will still play at High preset (don't need Ultra). But I saw the results also not really that good for those newer games from different channels doing similar comparison even in High preset😫 Sometimes 50-70+ FPS, sometimes 80-90+ FPS, barely over 100 or 120 FPS.😅 Yes, can go down to 1080p but the image quality will not stay sharp and clear like it used to since the graphic in 1080p 27" monitor will looks blurry and ppi outside, unless it's a native 24" 1080p monitor.
@yetischmetti9529
@yetischmetti9529 6 ай бұрын
@@HardyDimension you can get a 24 inch 1440p monitor, I doubt you'll notice the pixel difference unless you're really looking, but I understand if you don't want to
@HardyDimension
@HardyDimension 6 ай бұрын
@@yetischmetti9529 I get you. The graphic quality looks sharp in 24" 1080p, hence not to mention if it is 1440p. However, most 1440p is 27" and hard to find a good 24" 1440p and not that high price. Mostly likely I will watch or check out some reviews first before buying it, I won't be the one I used to just anyhow buy one😅 I saw a channel called Vex, the video title is 1440p Ruined Me". He said "If you're not ready to upgrade your entire system what I'd recommend is to get like a 27 inch 1440p monitor that looks good like the one we showed in this video keeping your your lower end GPU that was good at 1080P and then just run your games at 1080p on your 1440p screen it's 27 inches it will look pretty good decently sharp 1080p then you still get all of the benefits of using your desktop at 1440p that really helps in the grand scheme of things your games are going to be as demanding they'll look decently sharp and then you'll be able to do things like web browse in 1440p you'll get more screen real estate which 1440p puts a large advantage on". If it's true like what Vex said, then I will go for 1440p without hesitation. But I have been checking around on the internet, most of the users also said that the graphic quality will get blurry, not that sharp if lower down the resolution from 1440p to 1080p. Unlike what Vex mentioned from the video. I even saw someone said that lower down the IN GAME resolution to 1080p is better than your did it from the Windows operating system itself. I am confused😖, and hope some of the 1440p users can enlighten me and confirmed about it on that🙏🙏
@HardyDimension
@HardyDimension 6 ай бұрын
@@yetischmetti9529 Majority of the 1440p monitors are 27", hard to find a good one is 24" and provided the price not that high. I will be watching or checking out review for monitor now, won't anyhow just buy one like I used to😅 There is a channel called Vex, a video title "1440p Ruined Me". Below are what he said: "If you're not ready to upgrade your entire system what I'd recommend is to get like a 27 inch 1440p monitor that looks good like the one we showed in this video. Keeping your your lower end GPU that was good at 1080P and then just run your games at 1080p on your 1440p screen it's 27 inches. It will look pretty good decently sharp 1080p then you still get all of the benefits of using your desktop at 1440p that really helps in the grand scheme of things. Your games are going to be as demanding they'll look decently sharp and then you'll be able to do things like web browse in 1440p. You'll get more screen real estate which 1440p puts a large advantage on." However, I have been searching online about lowering down the resolution from a native 1440p monitor to 1080p. All the users also mentioned the graphic quality will looks blurry and not sharp, so I am really confused 😵😵 I saw someone said that lower down the resolution to 1080p IN GAME is better than you do it via the Windows operating system itself. Same thing, I can't confirm about both of these points. Hopefully someone could really help me to confirm with these 2 points🙏🙏
@Dakshohri
@Dakshohri 6 ай бұрын
I recently bought RX6700XT Used for $240 with some months of warranty left, its a beast of a card, my only issue with the card is its hotspot temps are touching 90 to 95 while the core temps are not going above 60.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 6 ай бұрын
Undervolt
@thewhiteknight9923
@thewhiteknight9923 6 күн бұрын
Might have to repaste that badboi
@Dakshohri
@Dakshohri 6 күн бұрын
@@thewhiteknight9923 I received RX 6750XT in RMA, undervolted that.
@DS-pk4eh
@DS-pk4eh 6 ай бұрын
But they are not in the same class, if we are to believe their model names: One is x700 model and another one is x600 series. You would expect x700 to be faster or same when compared to new generation. The only thing that happened here is that prices moved not as AMD planned
@brendanhoffmann8402
@brendanhoffmann8402 6 ай бұрын
I'm going to be satisfied with my 6700xt for many years to come I'm sure. I only game at 1080p 75hz so it's more than enough. I've actually been upgrading my PC sound lately. Got a Matrix Mini i Pro DAC and some fancy Yamaha speakers (NS-777) both second hand and for an absolute bargain.
@y_o_z_
@y_o_z_ 6 ай бұрын
Since when newer gen GPU with similar price range as secondhand last gen GPU offer the same performance? The newer one always offers warranty vs higher performance on last gen GPU with few months or no warranty at all from the manufacturer.
@evers6214
@evers6214 6 ай бұрын
Problem is there isn’t anything remarkable about 7000 series. These mid gpus are not really better at anything except maybe saving amd money (7600 die is much smaller than 6700). I was hoping to see a good leap forward in ray tracing or something but didn’t happen
@kaisersolo76
@kaisersolo76 6 ай бұрын
HUD elements have been fixed in Avatar - check recent updates. Would be great to see GPU usage, please use a monitor that has this.
3 ай бұрын
that stuttering and low 1% low in aw2 happens for me as well with 6650xt, with old 23.11.1 alan wake works much better than on latest drivers....
@nimaarg3066
@nimaarg3066 6 ай бұрын
Here in my country, with the price of a 7600 XT, you can get a used 6900 XT, which is a beast, and pretty much shreds through everything you throw at it. RDNA2 makes RDNA3 look dumb and overpriced.
@archer201977
@archer201977 6 ай бұрын
Again made yourself a mouse pointer hahaha, thanks for your review :)
@avedinamling8320
@avedinamling8320 6 ай бұрын
Tech youtubers must highly emphasized what market theyre looking at (i.e. US market/UK market/EU market etc) bec it seems that lots of American tech ytbers seems to think that the price theyre looking at at their local retail is reflective throughout the world's.
@alex-qn5xp
@alex-qn5xp 2 ай бұрын
The 6700 xt is nice and all but what's the point if you have to cook your card to do what the 7600 xt can do?
@tymur9666
@tymur9666 6 ай бұрын
In Alan Wake 2 both gpus are consuming watts differently. May be if we allow 6700xt to use more power, it can perform better than 7600xt.
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 6 ай бұрын
Probably architecture issue
@mraltoid19
@mraltoid19 6 ай бұрын
I wish AMD would release a Radeon 7700-GRE - - Navi 32 - 12 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit - 1900 MHz GPU Clock - 2250 Mhz Memory Clock - 3072-Shaders/ 192-TMUs / 96-ROPs - $279.99 - $329.99 - May would be a nice release month Just thoughts...as the prices should be: - 7600 = $229.99 - 7600XT = $279.99 - 7700-GRE = $329.99 - 7700XT = $379.99 - 7800XT = $449.99 - 7900-GRE = $549.99 - 7900-XT = $649.99 - 7900-XTX = $799.99 - 7950-XTX = $999.99
@Definedd
@Definedd 6 ай бұрын
in an ideal world those prices would be perfect but they will never happen, AMD for some reason hates pricing better than Nvidia
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 6 ай бұрын
7900GRE should be 450 after taxes
@MrSeb-S
@MrSeb-S 6 ай бұрын
Call AMD and tell them 😅
@Razzy_III
@Razzy_III 6 ай бұрын
Is it a really a “problem” or does it just make sense to incentivize old stock to sell first? Some part of this is keeping relationships with retailers and you don’t want so stick them with thousands of unsellable 6000 series, or make them sell at a loss. There’s a min price AMD can offer rebates on too before they’re the ones taking a loss or 0 profit. If I was on an old 1060 or something I’d just take the 6700XT and be happy. If you got a 6700XT for $330, it happened in the last year or so. Usually you can’t get a worthwhile upgrade at the same price within 18 months. Honestly most of the time it’s not worth upgrading more frequently than every other generation. Also if you’re buying the last generation at a discount because the new gen is out…. You wouldn’t expect to see worthwhile price/performance (by comparison) from the new generation until it becomes “last gen” and its price drops…. So 7700XTs may be ~330-350 once 8000 drops and they’d suddenly become a very compelling option since they come close to 6800 perf. I’m not saying current prices aren’t too high, the whole market is. I’m not saying the new cards aren’t underwhelming, they are. I’m just wondering if the focus on 6000->7000 is really that representative for the people seriously considering new cards, when most people are really upgrading on more like a 2-3 generation timeframe. RX 580, 1060, 1070, 1660, 1660TI, 2060, 2060S owners and 5600XT, 5700XT owners have some damn nice upgrades available within $30 of what they bought their cards at. Not to mention anything older.
@no5ense401
@no5ense401 6 ай бұрын
I went from rx580 8gb to Rx 7600 xt and Im happy with my gpu rx6700xt is 400$ in South Africa and also out of stock everywhere the real ultimate comparison would be 6600xt(300$) vs 7600xt(320$)
@warnacokelat
@warnacokelat 2 ай бұрын
Saw 7600XT selling for 280$. I think I'll bet on newer architecture to bring better performance in newer titles.
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 6 ай бұрын
8:56 …. eagerly waiting on the “6700XTs 1% lows of 69 NICE😉” ……. BUT IT NEVER CAME 🥺😢😭
@firstlast-cs6eg
@firstlast-cs6eg 6 ай бұрын
@Daniel_Owen Why do you say "TSR is how I would play it" But not actually show the stats for TSR and only FSR? I would show TSR and skip the FSR benchmarks for games that look bad in FSR and has TSR option.
@oz7586
@oz7586 6 ай бұрын
I think 16gb vram long term will help this card a lot. Shame it doesnt match up better tho
@BooberFlopper
@BooberFlopper 6 ай бұрын
I just want to say, I wish I had a teacher like you when I was in school, you are pleasant to listen to and make things easy to understand !
@TheVillainOfTheYear
@TheVillainOfTheYear 6 ай бұрын
They never thought RDNA2 cards would still be around. Anticipate price drops when the old stock finally is gone.
@MrSeb-S
@MrSeb-S 6 ай бұрын
People who think that 16GB VRAM in the 7600XT will last them for years don't realize that the card is already struggling at 1080p high settings. It can't achieve 60fps, and even 50fps is a challenge, despite low VRAM usage. Utilizing FSR and FG at 1080p comes with low image quality. Games with RT like AVATAR will become more common.
@eustacequinlank7418
@eustacequinlank7418 6 ай бұрын
128-bit with the 7600 XT vs 192-bit on the 6700 XT. The 7600's VRAM doesn't appear to be getting 'fed' quickly enough? I think I'm treating GPU bus width currently like sorting old out mp3s really. 96 kbps a big no, no. 128 kbps meh. 192 slightly better. 256 much clearer. 320 nearing 'full fidelity'. Uncompressed flac file et al. Seems to scale in a similar fashion. Same with image compression in my job. I bought the 6750XT for £359.99 around Black Friday (it's £400 now), but almost immediately swapped it out for the 7800 XT for £512 without opening the former. I think the 7800 XT is the 1440p upgrade someone might want from the 6700 XT. The prices are such a mess.
@PlatinumArms
@PlatinumArms 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the 7000 series cards just have better drivers. With just just raw power the RX 6700xt should be by at least 20% faster in every game. The 6700xt memory is faster too even though it's only 12GB.
@bradleys6646
@bradleys6646 6 ай бұрын
I bought the 6700 xt about a year ago when it was on sale for $300. No regrets at all.
@avikjr3205
@avikjr3205 2 ай бұрын
Avg. Temperature while gaming?
@nevernicemeadow
@nevernicemeadow 6 ай бұрын
bought a used rx 6800 for 350 last summer. great deal. unfortunately im a software dev and need cuda for my current project. so i m back at my 1080 TI and my wife got the rx 6800 when we occassionaly play some remnant
@daiymulhaqsiddiqui
@daiymulhaqsiddiqui 6 ай бұрын
The problem with cards lower tier than Rx 6800 is that they run finicky with HIP and rocm sdks rendering them unusable out if the box with productivity software like blender etc, rx7600 + have support for these features out of the box
@conditionsunderground
@conditionsunderground 6 ай бұрын
Why is there no gpu usage shown? You are telling us that the power figures are worthless but then leave them on and still not show gpu usage 😋
@mr.martian7065
@mr.martian7065 10 күн бұрын
Why performance is worse on high vs low... wtf Is that a typo?
@rippeddragonkill
@rippeddragonkill Ай бұрын
im just shocked that these days with such expensive graphics cards like these games still struggle to play at 60 fps ? theres obviously an issue with the game makers or the card makers.
@felipeavlopes
@felipeavlopes 5 ай бұрын
The problem is the 7600XT is too expensive considering it is pretty much a 6650XT with more VRAM and slightly improved efficiency(?) The 6700XT is vastly superior, despite having less VRAM. It's a bit like comparing the RTX 3060 with the 4060 except in the Nvidia scenario they are way closer and the sligthly faster GPU with less memory isn't better, specially if you do more than just play games
@ronzerker390
@ronzerker390 Ай бұрын
I screwed up with this one. Im late to this. The 6k series is all bought up. I went on amazon to find a 6700xt from gigabyte. Theyre trying to sell their last one for $750 lmfaooo. In the end ive got an entry lvl build just to get me back into pc gaming: Cpu: 7600x Gpu: 7600xt Mobo: gigabyte 650m gaming wifi Storage: 1tb dram Memory: 32gb 5600mhz 46cl (not good ram, i know) Psu: 850w from corsair
@Bossman5000
@Bossman5000 6 ай бұрын
I have a 6700xt and 6750xt was gonna upgrade to 7600xt but not sure now.
@prabhakardhar1379
@prabhakardhar1379 6 ай бұрын
rx 6800 is the actual king of value for money gpu.. enough vram with perfect bandwidth, excellent raw power, efficiency, plenty rt performance , main problem is the availability, specially in my region
@__RikiMuhammadFauzan
@__RikiMuhammadFauzan 6 ай бұрын
In my country 6700 xt just $185 2nd but still good.
@iiiSaav
@iiiSaav 5 ай бұрын
I’m assuming the 6750xt is better than both?..
@vinnybig6653
@vinnybig6653 Ай бұрын
So this is what I think the 6700xt looks to be anywhere from 5-10percent faster on raster performance with 4 gb less of vram so when games do need 16gb of vram the 6700xt and 7600xt are gonna be to slow on 1440p anyways in the next 2-4 years so your gonna have to upgrade anyways so the 6700xt looks like the better buy?
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