AMD's Dirty Little Secret

[@CryptoJordanVR]

Fun fact! Not only is there an RX 6300, there's also an RX 5300, a 5300 XT, a 5500 non-XT, and a 5600 non-XT! They're OEM cards that came with Dell PCs.

[@RuanEmanuell]

Makes me wonder what happened to RX 5400 then, and WHY 5300 has 3GB and 6300 does not lol

[@CryptoJordanVR]

​@@RuanEmanuellI almost forgot to mention the 5500 non-XT. So I had to edit my comment. Lmao Yeah, that's a damn good question! What happened to the 5400? 🤷

[@nephron9924]

I have another odd one from dell Rx640. Based on the Polaris architecture

[@pokepokepoke64]

Gt 1010

[@CryptoJordanVR]

​@@nephron9924I totally forgot about that one

[@lamhkak47]

Talking about that, that RX 6300's specs are frighteningly similar to that of 680M

[@roqeyt3566]

Just with the bus width of a single stick of ddr4, I'm impressed by how good these display adapters have gotten!

[@BonusCrook]

I'm impressed with how impressed you are with this abomination.

[@randomguydoes2901]

They cut it down past quark level lol

[@HunterTracks]

Funnily enough, 680M has more L2 cache and higher TGP and thus performs better. Hell, I'm pretty sure my laptop's 660M does better than this despite literally being the same chip as 680M with half the cores disabled. Edit: it does about the same in Cyberpunk at 1080p Medium with FSR Performance, but worse at 1080p Low with FSR Balanced, probably because the iGPU was hogging all the memory bandwidth and wattage from the CPU (I tested on battery, and my laptop has a 25W power limit when used on battery). This is with DDR5-4800 RAM, too, so I'm pretty sure there's a good chance 660M would beat RX 6300 in optimal conditions, despite, and I feel like I should reiterate, literally only having half the cores.

[@redhoodedduke9967]

I’ve actually got a 7735hs with a 680m in it. Haven’t got a lot of the games iceberg has but I can test ratchet and clank and cyberpunk while also throwing in cs2. I’ll try to get back to ya with the results if I remember.

[@MPdude237]

It makes sense that this is a OEM only GPU. Basically a display adapter card, a more modern version of the GT-710.

[@BonusCrook]

GT 705*

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

Why do these OEMs even care, when integrated graphics have come such a long way? There is no need for such a card in a modern machine, especially when it doesn't even support encoding and AV1, which current iGP's support.

[@onlyhereformoney175]

i'm kinda happy we have a more modern equivalent to the GT1030 and 710, it has all the modern capabilities like GDDR 6 and PCIe 4.0 but is slow and cheap enough to be a good choice for a basic video adapter that still (presumably) has updated drivers

[@Tofuey]

With the 3050 6gb not needing external power its hard to justify this cards existence

[@DLTX1007]

@@Tofuey only if nvidia prices it below 100usd, otherwise its even harder to justify 3050 6gb's existence. But even 150usd is not looking likely

[@redhoodedduke9967]

I doubt the 3050 6gb will sell for less than $150 since regular 3050’s hardly sell for less than $200 unless it’s the very weak variants. Not saying the 6400 is really worth it since many still go for $150 also, but would be nice to see an actual display adapter sell for display adapter prices.

[@onlyhereformoney175]

@@DLTX1007 also because that the RTX 3050 is supposed to just be a budget gaming card (and low profile?) while the RX 6300 is good for being a video adapter and i guess maybe old games.

[@DLTX1007]

@@onlyhereformoney175 3050 6GB is NOT the same animal as 3050 8GB is. It will be far slower and has less memory bandwidth. Also 6500xt can be had for roughly 130usd. Still not a good price but 6600 is roughly in 3050 8GB's price crosshairs which the 6600 thoroughly beats anyway

[@jasonaltman7164]

“Display adapter” might be a more appropriate label.

[@jasonaltman7164]

… but for less than $100, alright I guess.

[@DanangAlta]

🤣

[@nashcomp]

Gt710 : over my dead body

[@awesomeferret]

Can you actually explain why, though? I bet you can't. "Display adapter" is supposed to mean "can do everything but play games". This can play games much better than an Xbox 360. What word would you use to describe GPUs that actually can't game if you apply "Display adapter" to a GPU that CAN game?

[@jasonaltman7164]

@@awesomeferret I actually said it's alright for under $100, if you just read a little further.

[@newrhea13]

I recently found a rx 5300 in the trash. Had a shorted cap and torn caps off the ram and passives off the pcie connector... was deathly sick and stuck at home so I turned it into a project to resurrect... interestingly it performed really strong for what I expected for something meant to be lower on the stack... also has a massive cooler for what I was expecting.

[@DESARD12]

Would you care to share some numbers, friend?

[@thedandyp]

If you've still got the card, it would be interesting to answer the question that literally nobody is asking: Just what is the 'king' of still supported 2GB GPU's? Get a cheap 2GB 960 or 1050, overclock them, and see if they can beat the 6300, even if it's only when using PCIE Gen 3.0, or perhaps just in older, say 2015 and before, games. Think of the views!

[@Pasi123]

At least on 3DMark Fire Strike and Time Spy my GTX 960 2GB beats the RX 6300 by a bit My GTX 960 graphics score on Fire Strike: 7970 and Time Spy: 2359

[@abyrenggasaputra8064]

@@Pasi123 with triple the power draw probably

[@Pasi123]

@@abyrenggasaputra8064 Well the RX 6300 is a 32W card while the GTX 960 is 120W, so more like 4 times the power draw

[@gwils7879]

I have a 970 kicking around and it is more powerful than a 1050, but 2gb of vram is limiting. Would rather overclock a 1050 with 4 gb of VRAM.

[@TheRealDrae]

If you're really getting a 1050 nowadays, what's the point of not getting the Ti 4GB?

[@Lilyofthevalley252]

Concerning cyberpunk i suggest switching your benchmark pass to include Dogtown (the new area added in phantom liberty). I noticed it is way more taxing on your hardware than anything in the base game map.

[@neverletthemtameyou]

To be honest, I find the performance of this card truly impressive - considering the specs, that is.

[@DanangAlta]

i totally agree

[@doesitgame]

AMD have all sorts of GPUs they've sneakily released since the dawn of RDNA. They've done gamers REAL dirty by releasing a slot-power-only 7500 level RDNA3 die with 8GB of GDDR6...but only releasing it as a Radeon Pro.

[@BonusCrook]

Yup, AMD are just as bad as nvidia. People shouldn't treat them as underdogs anymore.

[@EbonySaints]

I wouldn't even be surprised if it actually has a proper media encoder just to rub salt in the wound.

[@Psychx_]

To be fair, the memory bandwidth of that 12CU RDNA2 card is pretty much comparable to what 12 CU APUs (Radeon 680M) have available. The 6400 version with 128GB/s is outright generous in that regard if you view it this way.

[@kaietcg]

This channel is kind of like a cat, growing so fast!

[@mtaslim9778]

A well deserved growth in my opinion! Needs more subscribers than this

[@kaietcg]

@@mtaslim9778 definitely, i started watching when he had like 5k subs, and since then, and almost everytime he posts I eat while watching the video!

Deserved. Well produced videos with an entertaining host.

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

This channel is feeding my desire to experiment with weird older PC parts, I love it. And the general production quality is fantastic.

[@olnnn]

From a quick google, there seems to be a HP variant too with a different cooler. No idea if the clocks are the same as the dell variant or not. Also hilariously, some of the first results are results from web stores from my country selling the HP variant for like 4k NOK new, aka €400... Both seem to be made for adding display extra outputs to OEM systems, the optiplex 7010 SFF in case of the dell one. Probably why they're so cut down.

[@richteritwan]

I spit out my drink when I saw your search typing "what is the growth on my p......"!

[@inqizzo]

At this point, why wont they just re-re-re-release polaris? Preferably with a 4 bit bus, 512mb of vram and 1 cu clocked at 350mhz?

[@TheShmomp]

Probably because whatever card you're specing out here is a pile of shit card

[@MightyElemental]

I'm surprised how well it actually ran. I was expecting it to not run modern games due to ram restrictions alone.

[@itsTyrion]

12:20 just in case you didn't know, the view distance setting in Fortnite has no effect on enemy players, they render equally far on Low and Epic. it only affects world LOD and object (weapons/items) distance

[@stratuvarious8547]

While I could see a use for the RX 6400, I never saw a use for the RX 6500 XT, and now, the RX 6300. At least with the 6400, you can drop it into a old workstation PC and have a quick low end gaming PC without the need for supplemental power. But for the 6500 XT, just get a 6600, and for the 6300, just get a 6400. There is absolutely no reason for these 2 cards to exist.

[@DoubtingThomas333]

Because they're cheaper than the cards above them...

[@philodocrtina]

The low cost and power consumption of the rx 6400 is also nice for broke people living in a hot climate without an aircon. Though I can get more performance for the same-ish cost, I ended up choosing it over the rx 580 or 590 for this reason.

[@stratuvarious8547]

@@DoubtingThomas333 Give how small the price difference is between the RX 6500 XT and the RX 6600, just save the extra $50ish dollars. It might take a bit longer, but at least it's a card that will perform well for a while, the 6500 is basically DOA.

[@pptemplar5840]

6300 is an OEM card right? Surely the reason for it to exist is it was cheaper to manufacture and fit in the PC case. And as far as the 6500xt, the reason for it to exist was clearly because our standards were so low at time of release that AMD thought they might be able to market it. Literally a period piece in the form of a gpu.

[@samsowden]

​@@stratuvarious8547 I can get a new 6600 for less than a 6500xt. There seems to be more variety in skus for it, so the spread in pricing is wider.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

32-bit? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 32-bit memory bus before. Even back in the late 90s with TNT2 it had 64 bit in the lowest sku

[@hblanksjukebox]

The ATI Rage XL that was often used on server boards for basic VGA out is 32-bit more often than not. I've got one in an HP thin client and it is S L O W. You can't even pan around in Roller Coaster Tycoon smoothly, it just doesn't have the power. There are also plenty of Geforce 8400 GS/210s out there with 32-bit buses.

[@XiaOmegaX]

That ratched and clank footage could almost be a good thing if they intended a "pixel art" art style.

[@giserson2]

Never thought I'd see a 32-bit memory bus on something other than the Geforce 6200LE, but here we are. Thanks to GDDR memory and clock speeds being 8 times higher the 32-bit bus club has come a long way in memory bandwidth and performance.

[@ian4846]

32 bit? Damn! And people talk shit about the 128 bit bus in the 4060 and 4060ti!

[@BonusCrook]

yet not about the 6650 XT and 7600, hmmm i smell a double standard

[@mangolover1]

@@BonusCrook those were cheaper than nvidia's competing gpu lmao

[@BonusCrook]

@@mangolover1 wtf no they werent they were ~$300

[@mangolover1]

6650xt price to under 200$ i believe and rx 7600 was 60$ less than 4060@@BonusCrook

[@flat_lander1]

​​@@mangolover1rx 6600 launched with msrp of 330$, 6600xt with 400$ msrp and 6650xt with 430$, so their prices were not cheaper, while rtx 3060ti/4060ti have msrp of 400$ and 4060 is 300$

[@walter1824]

Maybe add CS 2 in the benchmarks

[@Elomentoplayz]

4:34 i kinda wanna see what would happen if you used this GPU in a ancient PC, I need to see the pain.

[@redhoodedduke9967]

Now I’m interested. I’ve seen people put those low profile 6400’s in their old half height optiplex’s with the 2nd-4th gen core series CPU’s and I’m curious to see if it actually becomes unplayable or if the cpu holds them back first.

[@bhume7535]

It would probably start to crumble and try to kill itself as its meager 8 gbs of PCIE bandwidth is ripped in half to only 4.

[@Folsomdsf2]

the 5300 with re4 shouldn't crash at those settings. It shouldn't actually exceed the vram limit but dear god will it have some streaming issues.

[@Sheovion]

tbh i'm quite impressed that the lowest end card of that generation is this good i remember when cards that looked exactly like that were GT 210's and 710's and those were not able to reach even close to such performance we really have gone a long way since then

[@TechOtakuYT]

Cant wait to see a showdown of the 8700g vs rx 6300! As both have 12 compute units!

[@GeneralS1mba]

8700g will destroy!

[@GeneralS1mba]

Slightly :)

[@babyhandsthegreat]

My bet is on the 8700g. The 780M was pretty good and the 8700g should be beefier!

[@redhoodedduke9967]

He shows a timespy graph of the 780m, the graphics that’ll be found in the 8700g, beating the 6300 by a decent margin. I know it’s synthetic but a lot of times those still reflect overall performance. I’d like to see how a 680m handles it, since they’ve got the same number of compute units, or even how the 760m handles it since it’s slightly less than the 780m but rdna3.

[@DS-pk4eh]

I have miniPC with 7480hs that has 780m, I am getting almost double numbers in games. This APU goes up to 65W, so similar to what 8700G will do.

[@sr_xelby]

11:47 I like it how the color of the cars changes instantly. Is it some kind of a 6300 "special" feature?😅 Or is it meant to be like this? Anyways, nice video, keep it up!

[@XDKX1]

"what is this growth on my p-"😂😂😂 1:18

[@IcebergTech]

Oh no, how embarrassing, I didn't realise the camera was still rolling 😳

[@iyusyusra7115]

"P" for PC 😂

[@Alvinrasher]

​@@IcebergTech 🤓🤓💀💀💀

[@ubemvuossas665]

Minor nitpick: RE4 Remake has a less gpu heavy reconstruction technique which is around 25% faster than fsr 2 on the max performance setting, interlaced rendering, at 100% render image quality doesn't take a huge hit in movement (at least on 1080p), however since it's a reconstruction technique that renders half pixels one frame and half on the other I assume at lower resolutions it'd look worse and worse, it's still better image quality and performance than fsr 2 which I think is poorly implemented or something, because it doesn't seem to scale performance properly the lower you go. Also even if it's pretty meh in performance, I'm honestly impressed it's only using max 25W under maximum load.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

"The RX 6300 performs similarly to a gtx 1080ti in Alan Wake 2!" 👀😁

[@IcebergTech]

In its defence, the 1080Ti at least looks better 😁

[@BonusCrook]

Thats because Alan Wake 2 is unoptimized requiring mesh shaders to work.

[@eepymeowers]

I was *so* close to getting one of these, but got outbid later on in it and decided it wasn't worth it after around the ~$50 mark.

[@Vekstar]

Sorry about that. Pretty certain that was me who outbid you. Currently using it for a low power live TV recoder/encoder. Along with a N100, cpu. Do need to try gaming on it. I know a 780m can mop the floor with it, but it interesting to see fps per watt on it.

[@eepymeowers]

@@Vekstar It's fine, would have been cool but also wasn't a necessary thing for me to have. Pretty cool to hear what you're using it for, though!

[@bulutcagdas1071]

I mean this card would be really neat inside a retro XP/Vista/7 machine as it is low profile and has little power consumption. No doubt would play every game from that era 60FPS no problem. But I doubt anyone would bother making custom drivers to get it to run on old OS's.

[@samoskvarenina4285]

do you try it?

[@0Synergy]

Maybe Linux with wine would be better.

[@c1rcuitbent]

The GPU is PCIe x4 gen 4 which would be really bad at gen 2 or gen 1 speeds

[@jocerv43]

Don’t think drivers would work either

[@elu9780]

Even with the best stuff you can get for Windows XP - which is 3rd gen intel i7 processor - you, at best, would get PCIe 3.0, which would make this card perform even worse. Not really worth it, especially considering driver difficulty.

[@robertt9342]

I think we are pretty spoiled with gaming. Frame rate, resolution, quality modes, they are all so munch better than what used to be acceptable in pc gaming.

[@samsowden]

even low settings look really good these days

[@GeneralS1mba]

Yeah dude. Ever since more realistic graphics have started to be made, we can't accept 1080p anymore. We've gone from shimmering which we were fine with to "it's too blurry". We've gone from "this is such a good game!" to "ugh, I can't get 60 FPS. What a doze".

[@darthpotwet2668]

We've gone to that because if you get a game that can run max graphics really high fps and res and then you have another game that can hardly hit 60 (doom eternal vs hog warts legacy) even if there's a difference of a few years with release the performance is just not acceptable now with what we have available

[@StaelTek]

I remember 10 years ago that, if a GPU in a $600-700 PC could do 1080p60 in all games at say medium to high settings, that would be considered great value. Today, if a GPU can only do 60 FPS at 1440p, it is considered as “low end”.

[@Gimpy17]

We are spoiled with the hardware and the innovation of the tech industry as a whole. Gaming has been lagging behind solely because of corporate greed, not because we don't have the capabilities.

[@riczz4641]

That Alan Wake with PS1 aesthetics is kinda of a vibe ngl 🔥

[@redhoodedduke9967]

Hey there! Since you were talking about the specs I noticed that the 6300 shared similar compute unit count to the 680m while of course running the same architecture. Went ahead and tested the few games i own that showed up in the video on a ryzen 7 7735hs in my minisoforum Neptune hx77g. Cyberpunk 2077 1080 p Low fsr quality Avg fps: 44 1%: 29 .1%: 21 1080p Medium fsr performance Avg fps: 47 1%: 31 .1%: 23 Ratchet and clank: rift apart 1080p Very low fsr ultra performance Avg: 49 1%:33 .1%: 2 Quick note on ratchet and clank, while the .1% was in the single digits it didn’t feel bad and it did jump to 15. Another strange thing, if msi afterburner is reading the apu’s vram usage correctly, it settled around 8.5gb for most of the intro mission in the parade. Even tested cs2, unfortunately my msi afterburner overlay wasn’t showing up and the in-game fps counter isn’t very detailed but at medium settings 1080p fsr balanced it stayed around 120fps and dipped to 60 when near smoke, near npcs, or in detailed areas such as the reactors of Nuke. And before anyone questions my 6600m was running, I monitored both the usage of gpu’s and never saw the 6600m go above 1%. Just tested cs2 on my 6600m and found out that on the 680m it is incredibly stuttery. Definitely running on it though

[@takehirolol5962]

RDNA2, the most geographically locked GPU generation ever made.

[@BonusCrook]

what?

[@takehirolol5962]

@@BonusCrook What? High end RDNA2 was not available for 2 years in most regions. Yes, criticism to the RX 7800 XT is valid with RDNA2 in the US and UK, but not for my Latinamerican region and others as well that there was no stock of high end RDNA2.

[@BonusCrook]

@@takehirolol5962 all regions had it bad, they were basically being shipped to miners everywhere

[@takehirolol5962]

@@BonusCrook Not the US and UK...the only regions that sell and matter...

[@michaelfeenin551]

@@takehirolol5962 Literally all GPUs here in the US were either unavailable or absurdly above MSRP at the same time. Even old gen cards were being sold at what is now mid range RDNA2 prices.

[@darren253]

I think its made for Home Theatre Computers or basic office machines like Geforce 1030GT. But given AMD APU have a GPU in them. This seems odd.

[@redhoodedduke9967]

Believe it or not, it IS integrated graphics, or at least has the same amount of compute units and architecture as the 680m. But yeah, it’s definitely odd looking at it from a gaming standpoint since igpu’s are starting to become faster, it’s why Nvidia stopped making of display adapters. This thing is really only useful for adding display output to a system with nothing to do so or connecting extra displays if the current ports are already used up.

[@12100F]

8:26 you can hear the smile on his face when he sees something above cinematic performance out of this thing

[@peepeegun]

if i didn't know it was because of the GPU i'd have suspected a lot of the footage had big old CENSORED mosaics

[@RuanEmanuell]

My man will make Techpowerup update their website just because of this video. "The Radeon RX 6300 is a graphics card by AMD, that was never released."

[@baoquoc3710]

Or funnier than that: "The RX 6300 is one of the GPUs ever released"

[@certs743]

Interesting video. Might make for a nice display adapter that will likely have longer support than say a GT 1030 and no messing around with mini display port like some of the quadros. It does go to show it does have enough horse power to be able to mess around on when not working though. :)

[@BonusCrook]

So this piece of eWaste is good because...... it's new? I seriously don't see what you are trying to say.

[@certs743]

@@BonusCrook As I mentioned in my comment gaming is not the only reason why GPUs exist. HTPC, workstations running OpenCL workloads etc. And yes, driver support does matter with any PC hardware. Not every GPU is useless just because it can't play Alan Wake 2.

[@EbonySaints]

If you are interested, Sparkle *finally* released a single-slot, low-profile A310 with almost the exact same specs, but with an extra 2GB of VRAM and a 64-bit bus. It does have 2 miniDP ports, but they were nice enough to throw in an HDMI port so you're not entirely screwed. It is about $40 more though, so it's not as much of a "mess around/slap it in and forget it" price that it should be. However, it's Arc, it's very low end, and thus there are zero reviews of the thing easily available in the wild. There aren't even any 3DMark scores for the thing. I'm assuming that anyone buying one is going for the media server build since Arc is amazing at it. Frankly, if I didn't have other priorities in life and money, I'd give it a whirl and leave it in a media server after laughing for a good hour.

[@BonusCrook]

@@EbonySaints the asrock a380 LP is 1.5 slots and way better

[@certs743]

@@EbonySaints Cool. Good to see intel getting involved in the various sectors. The only issue is from reviews online there seems to be the implication that resizeable bare is required and most people using something that low end will be upgrading old PCs or office PCs that are off lease and often have very locked down bios where setting such things might not even be an option.

[@BonusCrook]

Gaming Display Adapter™ I bet this thing would have an epic boss battle against the gt 1030 GDDR5. Like Godzilla vs. King kong.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

I remember owning the Rage 128 about 35 years ago and thinking, "Now no one is ever going to make a video card with a 64 bit bus and expect anyone to buy it."

[@CFWhitman]

That 2GB of VRAM is just too much of a bottleneck in this day and age. It's so easy to get integrated graphics that you can assign more VRAM to. My old Xeon Workstation at work, for which I basically just wanted a card that would handle two monitors and not choke on 1080p video, has an RX 560 with 4GB of VRAM.

[@ipechman]

When he said that Cyberpunk is 3 years old I almost had a mini heart attack...

[@DigitalJedi]

I wonder if there's some crazy SBC out there that would pair this GPU with something link an N200 CPU and 8-16GB of system RAM. That would be a super low-power SBC and it would probably be about as cheap as you could go for modern architectures with DDR5 and dedicated graphics.

[@TronixGuy93]

The 6300 From a Dev/OEM standpoint had room for growth but need did not outweigh it in that series baseline. It supported, with mosfet upgrades and a better cooling solution ( from us integrators ) 4, 8 & 12 GB memory options and could also be in a crossfire array with tandem pairing only w/o further debugging across quad-lane usage.

[@シミズルリ]

Amazing. Honestly didn't think you could just buy one of these. It basically is a glorified display adapter! Come to think of it - if only this thing had an analogue port like VGA or D-sub, it could be somewhat interesting...

[@masterTigress96]

Even if it had, you wouldn't have needed to buy it solely for that reason. What is wrong with using an (active) adapter from e.g. HDMI or DisplayPort to VGA or D-sub? You can use those with any (i)GPU.

[@godhalo8582]

This gpu is awesome for 24watts,but i think a big OC will help it a litle bit

[@BonusCrook]

No amount of overclocking is going to fix 2GB of vram and a 32-bit bus 💀. This thing is manufactured eWaste.

[@GeneralS1mba]

​@@BonusCrookIt's probably for those dell office or hp builds. When the igpu can't support many monitors well: add this.

[@redhoodedduke9967]

Would be fun but otherwise pretty useless since at best it might be a 6400 with a 32bit memory bus and only 2gb of vram. Also doesn’t help that it’s locked down unless there’s an easy way to bypass it.

[@bamcorpgaming5954]

wasnt there an amd feature that allows you to go past yourr vram limit and use system ram for old cards like these? now saying itd make a huge difference but would be interesting to see it in action with something as limited as this

[@BonusCrook]

HBM only

[@redhoodedduke9967]

Iceberg actually featured this tech on the Vega 64 a little while back. Only works with a select few HBM vram cards but it would be interesting to see something like that work for limited vram gpus.

[@AverageDoomer69]

​@nathan4746 I have an old HD 6670 1gb gddr5 and it had this feature, although the performance wasn't that great considering it was taking from ddr3 system ram

[@phychmasher]

I see you HDMI 2.1. Man this could have been a really interesting card.

[@AlkoholOgerLeonElektronik67]

AMD and NVIDIA could adjust their general GPU prices to consumer friendly levels... but instead they decide to release E-Waste such as the RX 6300...

[@filipshinigami7263]

it may seems like e-waste but it will hold more than some older gpus on the same level of performace... sadly is scarab with no driver support and no PCI lanes and at least 4gb vram :(

[@mr.inspector3935]

I think this is almost still respectable if you make a followup please test the cards in older games too, minecraft etc.

[@BonusCrook]

it's not, this thing is an indefensible pile of garbage

[@mr.inspector3935]

@@BonusCrook take yor negativity and leave it somewhere else the fkk

[@redhoodedduke9967]

I’d like to see a “fair fight” given to this card. Granted, a fair fight would be like tying both arms and legs for any recent gpu but maybe some easy to run stuff like the increasingly popular lethal company, popular Roblox games, valorant, or like you said Minecraft might make this at least a decent upgrade to the old and tired gt 710, 730, and possibly 1030.

[@BonusCrook]

@@redhoodedduke9967 no, its a completely pointless card for nobody. The RX 550 4GB LP and RX 6400 LP are better for gaming and the GT 710 730 745 and 1030 already have the display adapter market covered.

[@neilrose7527]

Not had channel notifications snice xmas thought the vids stopped

[@Dankuzmeemusmaximus]

I am also a "Redacted" adult who enjoys techpowerup and countless gpu comparisions and tests from the past and FUTURE!!!!111

[@m8x425]

Is there something wrong with reading through TPU's GPU database from time to time?

[@Elomentoplayz]

1:51, why does it use a full PCIE slot? It couldve easily fit in a 4x slot.

[@mehemynxm6974]

Maybe theres seperate models? Like the one in the vid is some low profile-esque one or something.

[@BonusCrook]

Because nobody bothers with 4x slots.

[@Sir-Prizse]

Forza Horizon 5 is absolutely playable with 2 GB of VRAM. I had it running in native 1080p with a mix of low enviromental textures, low car details and mid settings with a 30 fps cap on a GTX 1050. You get a low memory warning every time you get too close to the festival and the city, but it works... just.

[@Kryptix0III]

I'm pretty sure resident evil 4 got updated to where you no longer crash to the desktop if you run out of vram now.

[@leunqm]

I found in a local store a rx 640 and i havent seen much information about that one. I thinks is based of rdna and wonder if it is a rebrand of some kind

[@BonusCrook]

its polaris, look at techpowerup

[@SoulScizorXD]

If it were like half the price, I'd snag it ASAP. At least this will run the games ever made at quality settings and framerates, unlike my current card.

[@BonusCrook]

Just get a 5500 xt 8gb, probably costs the same.

[@SoulScizorXD]

@@BonusCrook The need for external power is a no-go, sadly.

[@BonusCrook]

@@SoulScizorXD the RX 550 4GB is a better card for that case.

[@Policepigeon]

So it was you who bought that bid! I was watching it for a while but couldn't justify it for my personal collection of weird tech stuff aha

[@LOOTLORD605]

5:51 Damn Son.

[@budge1972]

Would it work better with the new driver just released with the fluid motion frames?

[@grischu8277]

Best thing about that Ebay listing is the "(NOT 6400)", or did you add this in? ;)

[@IcebergTech]

Nope, not guilty...

[@upgrade1373]

I like how you find out what is really possible on the least capable hardware

[@awesomeferret]

This is actually pretty powerful for what it is. That's amazing that it can outperform the Xbox 360 so well. This could totally make a super budget gaming pc, if not for the fact that double the money would get you way more than double the performance on the used market.

[@LRK-GT]

I use a Navi 24 RX 6500 XT for AFMF on my Vega 10 16GB MI25/WX9100. The 6500 rarely sees more than 20% load doing this. IMO, this RX 6300 *is* an 'AFMF "Feature Add" card'. Also, Navi 24 is Gen4x4, so it's readily adapted to a spare M.2 slot, even in a mini-PC or 'server'. If this lil RX 6300 becomes common as eWaste in coming years, it will be a neat lil 'enthusiast gadget'.

[@fordesponja]

I've been looking into very low end GPU's to pair an old Ivy Bridge laptop CPU and motherboard for a small emulation machine. The top contender is still the GT1030, which is almost 10 years old and still costs the same as launch, 60 pounds for this might not be that bad considering the bleak state of 10+ year old hardware on the very low end GPUs, at least is a relatively new product.

[@ryoaahy4271]

i do think that while cyberpunk and other games may be getting old, they might still have some value in your test suite. i wouldnt change anything until new games can replace them :3 theres another tech channel that i wont mention, but they often just test like 3 OR EVEN TWO games and its so incredibly frustrating, i value that there is a large range of tests that you run! its one of the main reasons i come around to watch every time

[@BonusCrook]

"theres another tech channel that i wont mention" lol why

[@EbonySaints]

This. While I'm certain that GTAV is very long overdue for being replaced (The Intel UHD 700 series can hit 1080p60 on Low and many cards can easily max out the engine at 4K VH) there are a lot of titles like Cyberpunk that need to stay as evergreen titles to provide some long term comparison. Frankly, I miss the early weeb titles that Iceberg used to test, but given how a lot of them can easily be maxed by mid-range hardware, I can understand why he dropped them.

[@forzagod5898]

I just can't believe that CP2077 is more than 3 years old!

[@BudgetBin]

While these numbers aren't amazing, on the budget side of things (especially if you really only play indie games or just games from 6 or more years ago,) this GPU for 70 Euros or 70 US Dollars could be good for those who have an older system, or rather, a SFF system that would like to game, but don't want to spend more than a hundred on their GPU. After all, your only options today would be this or the RX 6400, and we know that the price for that would be a bit over a $100 budget for a GPU such as this. Fun fact: Dell is selling this GPU on their website for over $200! If form factor isn't an issue, you could buy the RX 6600 (non-XT) for that price! Very classy Dell.

[@BonusCrook]

This comment is the definition of complacence.

[@cosmefulanito5933]

Nice videocard for the money.

[@TabalugaDragon]

"it's not THAT bad like Intel iGPU" meanwhile a 4-year old Intel iGPU: 13:23 It scores higher than this GPU does.

[@NovemberOrWhatever]

I can see it almost making sense if you don't game, have a CPU without integrated graphics, and want something with a newer architecture so it will hopefully last longer, but I'm not sure if it even delivers on that last point

[@Killerspieler0815]

OMG, a cleart avoid it ... also over 900MB for a grafics driver at 3:27 ...

[@ninjasiren]

if TechPowerUp says this is 100% relative to an R9 280X or an old GTX 880M (forgot if Kepler or Maxwell variant)

[@AKGWolf]

can you do a video on amd 3rd party drivers because the website changed

[@jamescolvin8429]

This reminds me of trying to run modded minecraft on a laptop that was already bad back in the early 2010s. Glad that laptop is long dead.

[@sumitupadhayay2270]

Low-key wanted you turn on rAyTrAcINg just for more laughs

[@KingVulpes]

fun fact, AMD has a Pro series card named W7500, and with pro series usually having a consumer counterpart, it makes me wonder if a RX7500 was planned, the specs are interesting too

[@BonusCrook]

its just a more cut down 7600

[@blakegriplingph]

If anything, the only practical purpose I can think of for this is for troubleshooting purposes or as a replacement display adapter on certain PCs that don't come with integrated graphics.

[@BonusCrook]

But the RX 550 4GB Low Profile and RX 6400 4GB Low Profile already exist as gaming cards, and the GT 710 730 and 1030 already have display adapters covered. The 6300 is literally pointless.

[@redhoodedduke9967]

That’s pretty much what it’s for, extra display outs or a display output if a system doesn’t have integrated graphics.

[@skaltura]

That is just video output card, shame it has so few display connector types. Often find myself needing just something for office use

[@RichardArkax]

i mean , this is cooler than i expected

[@readycheddar]

If an IGP performs better than a discrete GPU, what is the point? I'd love to see this and a GT1030 or even a 710 battle it out.

[@TrusteftTech]

"think of the views" lol So real, so painful. BTW, did you try it at all for other things like video editing?

[@IcebergTech]

No, I've used both of my Resolve license activations on my editing rig & laptop, and it's a PITA to keep deactivating and reactivating. You don't get GPU acceleration on the timeline in the free version, sadly.

[@TrusteftTech]

@@IcebergTech Oh it doesn't? Good to know thanks. I was thinking of trying it on my ( now ancient) system (i7-5960X) , but I didn't know there was no GPU support. I guess I will stay with Movie Studio 17 for now. Thanks for the reply.

[@IcebergTech]

@@TrusteftTech Well, it's free, and if you have enough storage you can always use proxies if your CPU isn't fast enough. But yeah, you have to pay for the Studio version to get a GPU accelerated timeline. You do get GPU accelerated rendering, but only in H265.

[@yopurt]

where did you get your 7500f? ive seen it on aliexpress but am not sure if it ships globally

[@IcebergTech]

Yes, AliExpress. £142 after import fees. If you’re in the UK, I believe they sell them used for £133 delivered

[@GmailNexus]

1:33 No satisfying Button Klick Animation or Sound 😭😭😭

[@KYSMO]

So which cards are the most similar to it in terms of performance? I see it performs worse than a 1650, so I assume a 1050 is the closest match?

[@grndzro777]

This was probably developed for thin clients, but chips available were too few to release it. AMD pads their portfolio ahead of tap out based on estimated die defects. If the dies are better than expected the lowest on the totem pole is sometimes nonviable without scrapping the next highest tier in the range.

[@mr.pumpkin8891]

idr if u have made a video on the rx 6700/xt but i would love to see a video of urs abt it! my favorite amd card so far due to its price/performance

[@IcebergTech]

My 6700XT review is from the veyr early days of the channel. It's still up, but I wouldn't recommend it... As for the regular 6700, it's one of my most viewed videos of last year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raqmp3iNZal2mM0

[@mr.pumpkin8891]

@@IcebergTech "i wouldn't recommend it" thats not gonna stop me 😈

[@mr.pumpkin8891]

@@IcebergTech thank u btw haha always excited to see a notification from ur channel!

[@quentonc5806]

if u use the more power tool u might be able to to increase the tdp and the clocks

[@MR_FIAT]

oh wow that ratchet and clank footage was brutal.

[@w0lfgm]

64 bit bus is enough for the diplay addpter not for the GPU, but 32 bit... wandering if perform better in the netflix than nVidia 1030....

[@lamhkak47]

Also, when adding Palworld to testing suite? :^D

[@IcebergTech]

Well, I hadn't heard of it before now, but after looking it up I'm disappointed. Based on the name, I expected it to be set in a Utopian world where everyone accepts 50Hz as the ideal refresh rate.

[@lamhkak47]

Damn shame

[@nicholasbrooks7349]

Please i need to know gt 210 or gt 710 or gt 640?

[@BonusCrook]

Get an RX 550 4GB its way better than those

[@Valvefan75]

get a rtx 3060ti it's the best budget card avalible

[@BonusCrook]

@@Valvefan75 yea sure the guy who is shopping for an ultra low cost card like the gt 710 totally is going to spend $300 on a 3060 Ti xD also the 3060 Ti is not going to hold up well long term compared to the 3060-12GB and RX 6700 XT

[@Atlasman]

What's the name of a CPU cooler in MPG PC?

[@IcebergTech]

Thermalright Frost Spirit 140. Awesome cooler, whisper quiet and massive overkill for the 7500F

[@faceless1646]

cyberpunk beeing 3 years old already gives me anxiety man

[@AleksiJoensuu]

Hahaa! Alan Wake 2 with this looks like a retro trip down to Playstation 1 or 2 times