AMD vs Intel - The Ultimate Question and Final Answer (NCIX TechTips #82)

Today Linus talks about AMD vs Intel and how to determine which is right for you!

[@josephcvega]

AMD vs. Intel The final Battle *sponsored by Intel

[@josephcvega]

***** Yeah but it is too controversial for KZbin

[@SirBrucie]

this comment made me laugh so hard XD.

[@matthewcentofanti6403]

This is the second video with the same coment

[@sicariusperemo3789]

Please keep eating crappy food, so you can get Cancer or something...

[@seonethree]

omfg xD!

[@Ozhl]

As an Intel fan boy I gotta go with intel because I'm trying to build a PC that can run club penguin at 3 fps at 1600 x 900

[@1n4ct1v2]

I can only play it at 50 x 50 or it will crash.

[@1n4ct1v2]

I wasn't sure it would work, but when I installed Windows 9 I could run it at 5 fps at 100 x 100. Thank you!

[@helloworld6160]

that'll be 500$

[@jigglydo7936]

hello world so late....

[@lelouchvibritannia4495]

ronin twothreeohnine club penguin is shutting down so...

[@uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweug9353]

Intel = iPhone, AMD = Android, we all know whats better,smarter and cheaper.

[@gahnreon2437]

iPhones :D

[@rogeraceves5828]

AMD doesn't have the "throttle back" feature so that cores don't end up burning out. but it is a bit more pricey but will definitely last longer than an AMD would. you cant just slap comments on the web like that because people will end up buying what they don't know so much about and might regret it later on because it wasn't what they were expecting.

[@borgetret]

***** I have a amd for the last 5 years and it still Work fin.. and have 300 $ for a SSD hard drive and new grafikcard (NVidia GTX 750) and now I have fast start up and can run all my games... AMD is as good as you paying for it.. Intel and AMD are almost the same thing in my book

[@danielkilner1900]

I'm sorry, but I'm on windows phone, and we have snapdragon processors so I'm just gonna back away with my beautiful power and money.

[@MrAditza95]

My name is Jeff Apple use in iMac intel CPU YES but the graphics are AMD :)

[@boktorinator693]

2017-2018 It depends 2019- AMD.

[@jerryknudsen7898]

lol the question is still age old 5 years later....also I just realized WHY DONT YOU AGE!? :D

[@sevenhundred77_]

+Jerry Knudsen he looks exactly the same!!!

[@f3Dseizures]

+Jerry Knudsen clones

[@dondraper4438]

+Jerry Knudsen Fountain of youth

[@jerryknudsen7898]

hussein hussein maybe he's a machine 0_0

[@marceldiezasch6192]

+Jerry Knudsen Today it's no question anymore, Intel is way above. Maybe AMD's new ZEN-architecture next year will bring them back.

[@dmitrykim3096]

There are two major kinds of men - those who can appreciate efficient and cheap overclocked customized things and those who just want to have best stuff on the market no matter what. Intel vs Amd, Apple vs Android devices. They are both right.

[@JonDoe-vd1iu]

+Dmitry Kim Apple products provide at or below par specs at an extremely high cost when considering competitors. If you want to talk tech I can explain to you why an Intel 4-core will annihilate an AMD 8-core any day of the week, but I would rather not turn on my desktop to copy and paste my pre-formulated argument that I already inserted several other times in the comment section of this video.

[@sreenathp3295]

+Dmitry Kim What you mean by the term "Cheap".. !!! Does it refer Quality or its Price Tag.. ??? Premium price tag doesnt mean its a premium product.. Customers always lookout for efficient,reliable and cost effective product..I.e Y Android still ruling the markettt..

[@dmitrykim3096]

Yes, I meant price for performance, reasonable price without 100 percent brand overpay

[@JonDoe-vd1iu]

+Dmitry Kim Take a $130 AMD CPU, pin it against a $130 Intel CPU. Then tell me how hard the AMD ass whooping was. Here is my write up on the matter since several other's requested it. I do not approve of AMD octa-cores for gaming as I used to, and this is why. Floating-point schedulers allow a CPU to make calls to a GPU to allow the GPU to solve the problems that the GPU is made to do. That being said, Intel has one Floating-point scheduler per core, and AMD only has one every two cores. Now, in addition Intel has far superior single core performance, it is known that DX11 does not know how to distribute a workload well past 4 cores. The argument then becomes, when DX12 comes out AMD's octa-core will surely win then huh? Not so fast due to the the discrepancy with floating-point schedulers Intel still is winning by a large margin in the benchmarks I have seen. However people are saying that DX-12 will put them into the range of competition, they say that the i5 4690k will no longer smoke the FX-8350 as it did in the past... but is this true? No the 4690k will smoke any FX series processor because the iGPU can be used for coprocessing with the main GPU. However at the low end, if you pair a A-series processor with a GPU you will be in the range of competition with an i3, but the i3 will still win by 5-15%. Further more there is one more factor that has not been acknowledged as of yet, for a game to properly take advantage of DX12 the programmers would have to go through the hell there is programming at a low level, that and the fact that programmers whom already have a finished their games are highly unlikely to re-do their games. Hence why I cannot stand by any FX series chips. Despite that, I hold high hopes for the Zen series.

[@czarpeppers6250]

+Dmitry Kim The truths you have laid down with your words are mighty truthy. You're right, it always annoys me when people get into the PC vs Mac debate. I have a PC and I am very fond of it, but I have also had Macs and been very fond of them too. It all depends on what I'm primarily doing at the time, if I want a laptop for browsing, music, video, video editing or audio editing, I would go with the Mac. But PCs are getting better in that regard too. Gaming machine on the other hand, PC all the way, but I use to have a MacBook Pro with Windows on it that was actually a pretty good gaming machine. They all have their roles.

[@mervinajax1]

Wich what sould I chose for gaming and a bit of recording, rendering and development?

[@TheNiteNinja19]

AMD really has dropped the ball on the CPU market since 2010. The Phenom series were AMAZING. Currently using an Intel i7 4790K because AMD doesn't have any AM3+ Mini ITX motherboards. AMD however really picked up on the GPU market, so I'm using Intel CPU and AMD (XFX) GPU. Crossing fingers that the 2016 Zen processor from AMD is the next Phenom.

[@MangoJunkie]

The gigabyte 78lmt is a mini TTX mobo that uses AM3+

[@omegarugal9283]

+Andrew Hunt "Crossing fingers that the 2016 Zen processor from AMD is the next Phenom." not happening, AMD will do APUs from now on, no planes to update the FX line...

[@leucome]

+Andrew Hunt Yeah I was expecting to build AM3 mini ITX but nobody ever build mini itx board. I hope they will offer a zen CPU/APU that is quite powerful in mini ITX size .

[@omegarugal9283]

Eric Jacques blame the mobo manufacturers for that...

[@TechnoBabble]

+Omega Rugal Actually ZEN will have regular desktop CPUs too, up to 8 cores, and they're going to be SMT based, just like Intel's current processors.

[@Forde3654Eire]

Just throwing this in. 5 years ago, I wanted to build a budget gaming PC. The standard at the time was to go with an Intel i5-2500K. So I factored that into my budget, only to realise that left me with $0 for a graphics card! I looked over to see what AMD had to offer, went with an FX-4170 (Phenom II X4 sold out unfortunately, 4170 on sale cheaper than 4100!). Savings went into a sweet Sapphire 6850 graphics card. Now in 2015, system runs terrific, handles my games just fine. Both bad boys overclocked, FX-4170 at 4.6GHz (whole 1 GHz over 4100!), Sapphire 6850 at 900/1050 (stock 6870 speeds, without the extra shaders). Is my system faster than one with an Intel i5-2500K? No. Did I get a good deal on the AMD system with a 6850 graphics card? Yes! There you have it, that's my take.

[@viajesangel8673]

Forde3654Eire I know how old this comment is but: your system could run faster than a lot of i3s.

[@Corristo89]

As for pure performance AMD can't beat Intel. The flipside is that Intel CPUs tend to be more expensive and often come with restrictions. Non "K" versions for example can't really be overclocked. AMD on the other hand may provide less performance but offer very good prices and good performance at the same time. You won't find a quadcore CPU from Intel anywhere near the price AMD is selling them. Also their APUs have really good integrated graphics which are actually suited for gaming while Intels graphics usually suck. It basically comes down to what you need. Performance? Intel. Looking to spend just enough to get a good CPU? AMD.

[@rossmaxx]

Say that to ryzen

[@notenoughtime9515]

Very good video. With solid arguments, no stupid fanboism or useless debating. From what I understand you simply can't say that one is better than the other. It is a lack of clear-sightness plus the fact that each CUSTOMER has his needs that are better satisfied with one product or another. And damn, this video was made 4 years ago...

[@jamesdavis7857]

Thanks for your help in posting this.

[@VertexHero]

I pick AMD because 1.) It's more affordable and 2.) I do a lot of 3D rendering with multi-threading, and AMD is sometimes better for those types of applications. I've been running this Phenom II X6 1100T for 3+ years now, running renders that go on for ~12 - 24 hours and I've over clocked this thing so many times past 4.0GHz; it never overheated on me. I abuse this thing when doing my work... This chip is beyond reliable and is not "cheap" but rather, "affordable". I sure can't wait to upgrade my Motherboard soon so I can slide in one of these AMD FX-8370 Processors :)...And for the record, I recently bought a really nice gaming laptop with a Intel Processor. So I may be a AMD fan boy, but I'm not biased!

[@TheMilleniumSurfer]

Got it, ill upgrade to an intel and get way more performance. Thanks for the help dude your awesome!

[@meloonaticmelons]

Don't swap phenom for fx. phenom is better. Modern amd's suck. If u want an upgrade get intel i7 or i5

[@robhatterly2232]

NightGamerFX Actually Intel is better at multi-threading... it's kinda the point.But I do use AMD for gaming.

[@VertexHero]

Trent Corrill Touche, indeed you are right (considering what I've learned since my original comment). I guess it depends on what software we use (and what they cater to when developing), because I've been getting better results with an AMD chip than my Intel - in most cases.

[@bonzmodified6430]

NightGamerFX phenom II X6 user also here... im using it for almost 24/7 tho. still got no issues on it. ive been using it since august 2010 tho.

[@ErnestJay88]

For me : CPU = Intel GPU = AMD

[@giantmichael8313]

i-5 + rx480 is where im at

[@soju69jinro]

amd meaning radeon?

[@giantmichael8313]

+soju69jinro no i was talking about the nvidia rx480

[@CloroxBleach-vc1pw]

same. its a good combo

[@chianalasdair5485]

I'm wondering if its worth saving up more and going for an Intel CPU cause the fx line is dead what do you guys think? :)

[@EnderGames207]

I'm just trying to figure out which one would be better cause I've been gaming on a core i3 laptop and wonder if i should get amd or intel for a new computer/laptop

[@Nitro192192]

Truth is, If you have the money. Go with intel, It's been proven better in CPU intensive games due to the better single core performance. The advantage to AMD is if you're on a budget.

[@keltonlewis528]

Like he said, intel is best for my needs. I want to make a fantastic gaming rig with pleanty of upgradability. I also want to start a KZbin channel and smoothly edit and render videos. i7-4770k

[@noahlangens3286]

4930k better option.

[@AdrianA-oi6je]

I'm still using an AMD Athlon Dual Core 64 x 2 6000+ 3.1 processor. Only thing I've upgraded on the Dell inspirion 531s is the GPU and added memory. It's still fast for browsing, you tube and streaming movies!!

[@kenshikeys]

What would you think is better for recording in a studio to produce audio?

[@spacedave2000]

Wow...five years later and Intel is still using the i7 indicator and overcharging through the nose for their processors.

[@Felipe03000]

+Gary Meyers AMD leads the price x performance. Intel leads the overkill.

[@bansku455]

The thing is that if you are going to build a high end pc.. AMD doesnt have really good high end cpu:s compared to intel. Even if intel costs more its not worth getting a cheap ass cpu on a 2000€ pc build.. AMD cpu:s have really good value when you are building a budget pc (under 800€) and when over that intel has better preformance

[@bansku455]

+Eda Kanerva also AMD is better for editing,rendering and office work when intel is better for gaming preformance

[@spacedave2000]

+Gary Meyers it's also literally 3-7X's the price. In Canada the highest end AMD is under $300. The highest end Intel is over $2500. Only elite 1% rich people or hyper performance obsessed individuals can afford this. I'll wait for Zen anyways and save loads and loads of money vs. Intel and take slightly slower performance.

[@Felipe03000]

Gary Meyers when we put Low and even mid end cpus amd wins.But that can cange with the zen processors... Renember 2012? When AMD defeated intel with 30% worse IPC? Now it is only 5% worse... but those skylake cpus are pretty good.

[@christophergleason9682]

AMD is more affordable, has more cores, and higher speed. But intel is more expensive and more powerful towards gaming.

[@MrGible]

Msi gtx 660 twin frozr, is it good? Or a bit overpriced? (For heavyish gaming)

[@bloodlord1989]

I want to build a new pc for gaming, Music production,and video editing. When i produce music i use a lot of analog emulation software which takes a lot of cpu as well as the sound design so a good CPU would be alot of help. I read that intel has hyper threading (not all, my current pc doesn't have it) which doubles the power,but i'm not sure if it's supported by all software from games to music production software. Is hyper threading worth that much to choose Intel over AMD?

[@beeffuggee4347]

60%AMD comments 40%Intel comments. So we have a winner...(drumroll). Intelamd

[@xamnition]

Cooler master kappa

[@serin2ndchannel761]

Beeffuggee The winner is nokia 3310

[@BlackoutMalice]

AMD, Phenom II 835 combined with almost any AMD Radeon GPU gets me a 10% boost compared to intel. I Enjoy AMD, with only AMD products i have Higher Performance than stand alone products and there optimization really is effective. I do not prefer Any company, over another, i simply prefer a good product. AMD+Radeon have given me that recently.

[@parkerdurrington9921]

Im a college student building my first pc, I am going to be running a AMD FX-4350 with a MSI GTX 960 2Gb OC and from the research ive done, everything will run at the setting i want while gaming. For my price range and not skipping on much of anything It will do the job I want it to. No complaints.

[@henrylantz8590]

Hey if i am buying a laptop strictly for streaming movies and tv shows and just watching shows and movies, or downloading music on to my ipod from itunes, which processor would be recommended?!

[@soju69jinro]

I prefer AMD CPU. Why? I do Counter-Strike Maps, meaning I create some maps. Then I'd have to do rendering. At Intel's quad core running @ 3.5 Mhz, that's going to take a long time. I currently have AMD FX-6300 @ 3.5 Mhz (4.2 Mhz at Turbo), which has 6 cores. I can fully utilize all 6 cores and run them roughly around 4.0 MHz, and finish my rendering without waiting too long. AMD is my way to go if you want to do rendering/engineering on a budget. College students/high school students should mainly stick with AMD. When you finish college and have a well-paying job, go upgrade into Intel. That's where the line should separate, in my honest opinion.

[@nekobosher7401]

Megahertz? do you mean Gigahertz?

[@shello2k474]

lol megahertz

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

and i render vids at 4k maximum quality in sub 13 minutes (with a 10 minute video) ive helped a friend with a csgo map it's hardly intensive (but then again ive got an 6700k @ 4.5ghz + gtx 980 ti hybrid) yes the "real" cores DO benefit but then when you go to play on that map you made vs the guy with the intel at 3.5ghz you get slaughtered again only time will tell :)

[@shello2k474]

its weird that quad core intel's cpu beat the crap out of hexa cores amd processor :/

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

Gameplay Gamma it's because of the way the cores handle things for example in programs that use 6 real physical cores the fx 6300 beats any intel processor below the 6950k but then in gaming it's reversed and the fx gets shit on in all games where it hasn't been optimized for real cores

[@Wizkid490]

I generally prefer AMD for two simple reasons. Firstly, it is cheaper. I recently saw an i5 for over $230, whereas the FX-8320 I am using in my next build costs only about $120. Given point two, this makes the choice a no-brainer. My second reason is that AMDs TEND to be faster at multi-core/multi-threaded operations. Since I do a lot of video editing, and my gaming is largely either older or works well with multiple cores, I took the much lower price for similar or better performance in my situation. That simple. That said, however, I have used Intel in several PCs and they have all performed fine. As a side note, I have actually never had similar level AMD and Intel CPUs to compare. All of my Intels have been higher end, while my AMDs have been in budget systems. In all cases, they have both performed well.

[@keeganlubbe2470]

In gaming, Intel is better, but in video editing, at least when on a budget, AMD is better. One question: WHERE did you find an FX-8320 for $120??? They are usually $170 - $180.

[@Wizkid490]

Whoa! I just saw one for $130 from Amazon, but I can't seem to find it now. Hmmm. Best I could do now was $190 with a motherboard: www.frys.com/product/8135525?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG Still not a bad deal. Motherboard seems pretty good, with OC support, 4 PCIe ports, USB 3.0, etc. Sorry about that... I know I saw one for about $130, and I thought that was the regular price... I did find one for $150 regular price on Amazon here: www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B009O7YU56/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

[@keeganlubbe2470]

Wizkid490 Wow. The prices have really gone down from when I built my PC. The cheapest I could find then was $175. That's why I opted for the not much more expensive (at the time) i5-4670k. Maybe if prices were as they are now, I would've gotten that and used the extra cash on a better GPU. Ah well.

[@Wizkid490]

keegan lubbe I can understand. If the i5 were cheaper, I would probably have used that. I actually picked up a 8320 a little while ago when it was $130, so I guess I must have gotten a sale.

[@davidcorbo4755]

I found an 8320 for $99 on amazon for Black Friday :D

[@RubixMan99]

I've been looking at an Intel core i5 2500k processor and I was wondering what this is like and how good it is for gaming. Thanks

[@Garage-bh3fn]

i've had my phenom II x4 965 overclocked to 4ghz for over 5 years, now with a corsair H70 watercooler, and its still running strong. I just change the thermal paste every 6 months or so. It can still handle all current gen games at 1080p at only 50/70% load never going over 55ºC. i also have an overclocked msi geforce gtx 750 ti oc 2gb that never goes over 55ºC wich for me is an extremely good price/performance gpu. i'm very pleased with its performance throughout the years and its pretty amazing bang for buck performance if you ask me. sorry for my bad english :)

[@ashleyjohansson230]

Common Misconception: "amd is better because its cheaper" Truth: *WRONG!! AMD is NOT cheaper than intel. Stop comparing the amount of cores each processor has. Intel and AMD has the same price if you go by the actual performance/benchmarks rather than how much cores it has. An i5 or even a high end i3 will have similar performance to a 4-8 core AMD and a 4 core intel will have similar performance to a 8-16 core AMD.*

[@gutierritos9269]

+Ashley Johansson You didn't mention that an Intel CPU consumes less power and not get hot so easily

[@peakupoop636]

+Ashley Johansson Oh lol thx

[@ashleyjohansson230]

Cristian Gabriel Capatina idiot cannot stand facts.

[@jackjill3424]

So it doesn't matters which one we buy? xD

[@ashleyjohansson230]

Jack Jill in reality it really doesnt unless you use certain software that is better optimized for one of them.

[@geovannysanabria8110]

man 6 years ago AMD had a chance .

[@raidxtechyt2690]

they still do.

[@DualShockTree]

+RaidXTech YT come on Phenom III's! please make Phenom III's!

[@cg7305]

lol no they dont

[@raidxtechyt2690]

+David “DD” Fearnley-Jones Yes They are still good, :) I still have an AMD system that runs very cool and fast. Amd was in a tight situation but now they are coming back up to beat intel again. They always beat intel by core count and frequency before... I have a phenom x4, first gen phenom and it is good for everything that I need. But I haven't used it for years.

[@DualShockTree]

+RaidXTech YT i agree. my Phenom II is aging quickly but is fine for what i use it for. my best mate keeps saying to buy an Intel CPU when u upgrade by idk. might wait long enough so i can buy some cheap Zen stuff

[@monumahan1409]

best video I ever watched on this comparison. very well said buddy.

[@BoboAthanassion]

Adding to Freziod's comment. I too am still using a AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+ on my A8N-Sli Deluxe Asus Mobo for over 10 years and it still plays B3 without a hickup. I'm also using an Intel i7 2600k on my Intel build and haven't any problems for over 4 years now either: (knocking on wood).

[@meowtrox1234]

debating about AMD vs Intel is like Canon vs Nikon in the camera world

[@JMadlock108]

Lol and I'll say sony xD.

[@Layarion]

i disagree. i've found intel to be much better for PC gaming because many games still use only 1-2 cores, and intel's individual core performance is 50% better than amd's. so on games that need CPU power but don't have 6-8 core support (very few have it by the way) intel will keep your game from suffering low cpu power. a 3.5ghz on intel outperforms amd's 4ghz

[@pineapplefolif1797]

just like xbox vs ps 4

[@KyleBrownell]

I pick Amd just because I feel like it

[@KyleBrownell]

You know what I'm going Intel

[@KyleBrownell]

Fuck it I miss Amd now

[@JonDoe-vd1iu]

+Zeako I do not approve of AMD octa-cores for gaming as I used to, and this is why. Floating-point schedulers allow a CPU to make calls to a GPU to allow the GPU to solve the problems that the GPU is made to do. That being said, Intel has one Floating-point scheduler per core, and AMD only has one every two cores. Now, in addition Intel has far superior single core performance, it is known that DX11 does not know how to distribute a workload well past 4 cores. The argument then becomes, when DX12 comes out AMD's octa-core will surely win then huh? Not so fast due to the the discrepancy with floating-point schedulers Intel still is winning by a large margin in the benchmarks I have seen. However people are saying that DX-12 will put them into the range of competition, they say that the i5 4690k will no longer smoke the FX-8350 as it did in the past... but is this true? No the 4690k will smoke any FX series processor because the iGPU can be used for coprocessing with the main GPU. However at the low end, if you pair a A-series processor with a GPU you will be in the range of competition with an i3, but the i3 will still win by 5-15%. Further more there is one more factor that has not been acknowledged as of yet, for a game to properly take advantage of DX12 the programmers would have to go through the hell there is programming at a low level, that and the fact that programmers whom already have a finished their games are highly unlikely to re-do their games. Hence why I cannot stand by any FX series chips. Despite that, I hold high hopes for the Zen series.

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

+Jon Doe you know what? you're probably right. you also know what? i'd rather pay half the price for twice the cores and have the same framerate in an unoptimised game for my platform and crush everything in half optimised games.

[@JonDoe-vd1iu]

+The Vibe you would not have nearly the same frame rate. I am talking the price point where you are spending $150-200 on your CPU and $400 or more on your GPU. Even in the lower range, i3's will beat APU's and the pentium anavursay will be more that a match for cheaper, though you may want more cores at that point due to newer games requiring 4 cores

[@wep244]

I actually bought the exact processor and motherboard on the right back when i made my first pc, because of this video, and they're still going strong to this day. :P

[@CalCapone3]

I'm just incredibly happy there are two major players to foster competition. Frankly I wish there were like four major players.

[@leucome]

+Charles Cal there was other player like Cyrix and Via.. And i'm pretty sure that most of the AMD bad reputation come from those two brand that where really inferior than Intel and Amd. But via is still in business I don't know if they will make a come back on the mainstream market one day...

[@TroubleKlef]

If you want power. Intel. If you're poor. AMD.

[@LegendsXXX2]

I'm not poor & I usually go with AMD. However, The reason I probably have a lot of money is because I don't spend it foolishly, and I've never had anything I needed to run that a cheaper AMD chip couldn't handle. So, Its nice to save money occasionally, its just some Intel processors cost more than entire builds that can be had with AMD. To me that doesn't make sense, so until I absolutely need an i7 I won't be getting one (although those new 8 core Intel chips are tempting me!)

[@Peraflix]

LegendsXXX2 They're is certain price points on of a budget where going for intel or AMD suits best for that, I have an intel i5 4670k and It is perfect for what I do on my pc, however, I could have probably have gotten away with a fx 6300 and overclocking it but hey-ho it's done now hah. The way I look at it is, if you're strictly gaming then you should get an intel because of the stronger single cores, and if you're doing things like rendering, video editing, photo shop etc you should go for AMD because of the more cores (you could get a 6 core intel but that would cost you x10 as much as a 6 core AMD)

[@mephlesn5020]

Peraflix Usually it's just the opposite, if you look at benchmarks for video editing and rendering you go with Intel because they have hyperthreading which most games won't even take advantage of and those extra threads will make it so much more faster when editing. And when going with a gaming rig you'd go with AMD because they are so much cheaper and will run games as well as an intel chip if not better in some cases. And most games now will utilize multi cores so having a strong single core doesn't really mean anything specially with modern games. Even streaming gameplay, AMD cards will even run better than intel chips $200+ more than the AMD in some cases.

[@Freezyboy23]

No just no. I bought a AMD so i could save money for a beast GPU so everything has its reasons dipshit

[@LegendsXXX2]

I think its funny that the 8 core i7 costs over $1000 so its 5 times more expensive than a AMD 8 core. Yet, it doesn't give you 5 times the performance! good times!

[@dannylampron9879]

I prefers AMD because of their philosophy. Intell and Nvidia are bullies and by the way they acts, they are slowing progress in computer world

[@DualShockTree]

how are Intel and NVidia slowing down progress? if anything I'd have thought that they where speeding up progress. just wanting to get a grasp on what you're saying, that's all

[@kgtc]

David Fearnley-Jones NVIDIA is speeding up progress. By a lot. Now we have 8K gaming at extreme end. Or commonplace 1080p 60fps. But no. Intel is slowing down progress. Look at performance increases, 5-10% per year is too little. Last time we had 40% in times of competition every year.

[@tlove21]

Danny Lampron i agree about intel not so much about nvidia. Intel has not really changed the technology much. They have basically added a bump here and there and fooled people. I have done some benchmarks with processors and many times you do not need those high end processors. Nvidia however has really gone into some serious upgrades. The difference is always evident and the power is definitely felt.

[@mattnum35]

Just built a new rig using the MSI Mpower board with an i7-4770k at 4.5 with 2 MSI r9 270x cards crossfired as well as 32gb AMD gamer series 2133 ram on a solid state Samsung evo pro 840. As far as the I7 4770k goes it is way more than I need. Love it!!!!

[@Semiwithacarrot]

So is amd really good for video editing and rendering ? Im stuck on what to choose i always thought intel was the better choice. I really wanna be able to edit my videos quickly and render them out so i can produce videos whenever. But i also wanna have a really good gaming experience with my friends im so lost on what to choose please help.

[@Dragunov0511]

Intel processors have better performance overall, but the price is more than double, so.. if u have loads of cash, buy intel, if you want to have a CPU that is 5% weaker , but 200% cheaper, buy AMD

[@JammyDuel]

Good luck getting a decent computer component for 200% less than top of the line ;)

[@Dragunov0511]

JammyDuel go on any hardware selling site and you'll see for yourself.

[@JammyDuel]

I don't know when I last saw somebody giving people money to take amd off their hands. They aren't that bad ;)

[@marcoferreira2700]

Intel better in overall but when it comes to gaming AMD is better. i have a AMD FX-9590 on my thermaltake Level 10 gt and an Intel 5820K Haswell-E Core i7 on my CM Cosmos, i get more performance from the AMD (paid £190) then the Intel (paid £317) when you look at the price range then compare the performance you will see that AMD is cheaper but gives you about 90-93% the power that Intel does...

[@jurwat]

i got both processors, AMD on my gaming laptop and INTEL on my cinema etc. etc. desktop. both are performing very well. its all down to PERSONAL preferences.

[@autochat]

AMD Radeon R5 Graphics is this a good processor to play a game like, war frame?

[@balkan93ful]

ok some people are saying that fx 6300 is crap it ruins the gameplay and i should get i3 over fx 6300..and some people like tek syndikate are sayind that fx 6300 are so fast and they can reach 200 dollar cpu..so im just a gamer i dont do any video editint and stuf like that,,,i just play games at 1080p maxed out..I really need hellp..thanks P.S

[@mcun02]

i5 4670

[@balkan93ful]

what

[@christiangalo378]

FX 6300 if you are not gonna do video editing or graphics rendering, even my Intel Centrino 2 can do Video editing

[@thesmoothcriminal8170]

Definately get the 6300, its very good for streaming and gaming.

[@balkan93ful]

for sure

[@TheHenkxz]

intel has a bigger box so intel, and a banana for gpu

[@clansman89]

+Henry Montero And it's prettier box too

[@TheHenkxz]

clsman89 that too

[@sevenhundred77_]

+clsman89 new skylake cpu box is awesome

[@TheHenkxz]

r1Ns3 indeed

[@elliewilliams9641]

i love both and i am glad both exist, and this is from a person that has a i5 Laptop and a i7 Desktop, that used to own a AMD Athlon machine. However i find it odd that my i7 and my core 2 duo [i had the core 2 duo before the i7] creeped to a absolute halt if you got them to 100% CPU usage, but my old Athlon [3800+] Ran at 100% most of the time without lag.

[@alexmihai22]

I had a Phenom II 965 o.c. at 4.0GHz and it was a great CPU, at that time I had to sell it, but today I tested Phenom II X2 B59 at 4.0Ghz and I compare it to i5 4440, i3 4360 and i7 2600K, and Athlon X4 740 o.c. at 3.7GHz, and it runs perfectly (excepting hard games) everything in Windows 10. Phenom II was overclock-able, responsive, fast, and cheap. Also Athlon X4 740 (today 840 option) is great, I am impressed that my video graphics card Zotac 750 Ti 2GB DDR5 obtained greater GPU score with Athlon in 3D Mark 2013, greater than all CPU I mentioned before, and overall with a few percents less because smaller results in physics tests, but GTA V was ok on it at 30fps, medium settings, stable.

[@Gauntletbloggs]

Intel if you can afford it. Amd if you want value.

[@KendaBeatMaker]

Batman Rocks!!

[@MustardGaming2341]

hi linustechtips do u recomend a built pc

[@Steefjh]

I do a lot of physics simulations on my laptop for research and programming for fun (MSI GX70) and it runs well for those things. I like AMD because I have had good experiences with it before.

[@DiaaGames]

For me i just bought an amd processor and i have a lot of reasons why what i bought was fx8350 for 160$ i could have went with intel but for the same price i will get a lower performance and its my first rig so i can overclock the shit out of it without worrying if it's going to die cuz it didn't cost a lot and i always hated companies like intel where they make a 1000$ processor and suddenly a 300$ can give you the same performance and they keep saying the same shit apple says "its all about quality" you can shove that quality up ur asses cuz i care about money and i don't want you to take mine without a good reason

[@kushdaddy144]

I'm telling you right now Intel is worth the price. I finally decided to get an Intel i7 4790k and holy shit. This cpu blew my Fx-6300 to dust.

[@timmynguyen3797]

kushdaddy144 well you are comparing a 100 dollar processor to a 300 one so of course your going to get better performance

[@bedante90]

Timmy Nguyen haha right on the spot...

[@kushdaddy144]

I know that. I just saying intel is way better. the 6300 can't even match ive bridge i3s

[@kushdaddy144]

***** They can over clock.They just can't overclock high like a cpu with unlock multiples. More cores only matter for multitasking and even i3s have hyperthreading so they act like a quad core. Plus intel has way better single threaded performance. go look at some benchmarks and you'll see many i3 are destroying the fx-6300

[@Shizzlester]

I find that the difference between Intel and amd processors performance is quite marginal and not noticeable to some extent

[@IlDeimos]

In games there is not much difference at all, if any.

[@Ffdpbrah]

in-game intel wins. Even though i love AMD they can't outperform intel's best in games it's just a fact unless you're cooling with liquid nitrogen and oc'ing to 8 ghz it isn't gonna happen. Just look up the i7 4790k... if you watercool it goes well over 5ghz which only a select few processors can pull off stable, you can even pull it off if you have a killer hsf. If anything I'm biased towards AMD, and trust me, no AMD could ever compete with that unless AMD comes out of nowhere with a new release with cores twice as strong which won't happen, just face facts.

[@sylvaincaron8540]

For me its the A10-7850k, you don't need a Gpu from that start to play games and it's gonna be my home theater as well and some movie rendering (x-mas, B-days etc) and I'm on a very very tight budget

[@PeepingCreeper]

I noticed the change early on. Amd is a means for gaming intel is what I call a hybrid meant for variois things including just having a personel computer that can do alot of things. Amd is my choice from price and how much you can get for your bargain

[@drewlowery496]

i perfer intel because well in heavy cpu based games intel always wins. but damn i gota give amd credit im in love with the 6300 such a beast cpu for such little cost

[@niklasbergvall9656]

i know my next build gonna have the 6300

[@drewlowery496]

Niklas Bergvall nice!!! its like my 2nd fav cpu

[@niklasbergvall9656]

I like AMD for buget like for like my parents that dont have the money intel is more for highend builds my current cpu is a intel 4430 on 3 GHZ the 6300 has faster clock speeds in default and if you have the motherboard you can overclock so free preformens and is cheaper

[@drewlowery496]

Niklas Bergvall yeah i get ya man. i just cant wait for intels new 8 core cpus i hope the have the same power per core as they do now with just more cores lol.

[@niklasbergvall9656]

yeay im hopeing that AMD are going to relese a new highend cpus

[@FreziodClipsTwitch]

AMD. Ive stuck with AMD in all my builds. Always had better performance then my old friend who had Intel. Mine never burned out. He went through 3 in one year. I had the same one for 13 years in my first build. It still sits in my room attached to a very old gen 1 biostar. And it still fucking performs.

[@sandymaore5778]

***** biostar for the win.

[@FreziodClipsTwitch]

My old Biostar from 2006 is still rippin apart all my friends Intel builds. Even though it has a 3.3 dual in in but that was fast for the time. Lol

[@FreziodClipsTwitch]

My friend and I tested out computers on the game Ark. He spent around $1000 to get his shipped to him. Intel I5 at I think 3.2ghz. Can barely run it with only 12 fps. My AMD 6 core 4.2 build that cost me around $800 runs it 30fps constantly. Won't go higher which confuses me but stil. Every hobby has that overpriced POS. Pc=intel, motorcycle=harley, shoes=Jordans, Consoles=All of them, Cars=audis, bmw, lotus, etc.

[@FreziodClipsTwitch]

Thats a quad

[@cathlive267]

***** So, what you are saying is that you only know about shoes and consoles?

[@shagstars]

I had a fx 8320 with a cheap mobo (not a great combo), but I sold it and switched over to the core i5 2320 (got it for free from a pc with a defective mobo) and it handles all your games, even though it is 2nd gen though.

[@monumahan1409]

best video I ever watched on this amd vs intel comparison. very well said buddy.

[@chomper720]

AMD, because cores and value master race! :)

[@SirBrucie]

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[@seanrobinsonjr4363]

That was a joke right?

[@chomper720]

Sean Robinson JR Nope, in the long run Phenom II X6 was a great value! Sure the Bulldozers failed but Piledriver managed to in many cases beat 2nd and 3rd gen i7 in many benchmarks! (some was games but hey not all games support many cores duh!)

[@DualShockTree]

+ネーナ・トリニティ O adore Phenom II's. my old 955 is still going strong. although i do wish i had a Zosma or Thuban chip, my original Dened will do perfectly my needs, and then some

[@ammahippi6653]

pci express 2.0 ddr 3 value ? even the new pentium supports ddr 4 and pci express 3.0 so no its not a good a value when a pentium is faster then a qaud core amd. hopfuly zen will be better

[@BreXiaN]

I growned up with Intel and im gonna use intel.

[@jackson22668]

Andrei Cotos yeah same

[@RiZeLegiT]

Andrei Cotos you "growned up" lmao intel users man

[@BreXiaN]

omg fuck off AMD user

[@CrazyFunnyWeirdScaryStories]

You should have opened with what you said at 4:30! But great video compared to anyone else!

[@JAYMONEY14245]

what about the 8 core black edition at 3.9 GHz from amd and it's only like 150 bucks but Intel is really good but the thing i don't like about them is that they over price their product i mean really 300 dollars for a processor when you can get a better one for like he said 1/3 of of the price and its eight cores so Intel is like beats they got good stuff but too over priced

[@sirknightleopold]

I disagree that Intel's are overpriced. Intel perform better and draw less power. It cost more because it performs better, AMD costs less because they give less performance. the FX-8320 is comparable to an 3rd gen i5 in multi-threaded performance, but the single-core is horrible, so it's cheaper. They are correctly priced.

[@JAYMONEY14245]

but you can get a better processor for less than a intel correct?

[@xGoodOldSmurfehx]

JAYMONEY14245 in price/performance AMD is well reputed to be unmatched, Intel's CPUs tend to do better with heavy calculations which actually means they are most likely going to suck against AMD because of AMD's price/performance ratio therefore despite being less "powerful", AMD's components are just better suited for heavy gaming while Intel's components are far superior when it comes to production i love how even Linus said the opposite, its so obvious XD

[@niofalpha]

There is always a drawback to low prices... AMD draws more power, and runs hotter. When they run hotter they don't run as fast. The problem with AMD is they don't show the actual performance they show the theoretical under ideal services...

[@xGoodOldSmurfehx]

niofalpha and AMD and Intel CPUs work completely different nice going, i hate stupid fights like this AMD's CPUs are better when more cores are being used while Intel is the complete opposite however Intel was created for both the industry and stupid consumers, in no way is Intel meant for gaming in the first place

[@ExtremeMetal]

I prefer AMD over intel, and over NVIDIA

[@nickmann5822]

So you have never had a real computer.

[@nickmann5822]

Wal rus Please it's simple Intel is ALWAYS faster benchmarks speak for themselves.

[@nickmann5822]

No, I absolutely agree it's true when push comes to shove you are correct, AMD is the better value. My argument is strictly that Intel is more powerful. I have used both just prefer to save and get Intel I have absolutely nothing against using AMD.

[@nickmann5822]

Absolutely agree, just depends on what you're wanting to do with your pc.

[@jonahwcarlson]

YES ME TOO

[@LadyJoJoOfficial]

Im buying a computer for recording music. Like a home recording studio. What do you suggest?

[@MrRajaChowdhary02]

Thanx bro u clear my confusion your info really helps me to choose between them who is better... According to ur video I 'll choose Intel.. Thankyou

[@RyoCanCan]

I prefer Intel, because I've had bad personal experiences with AMD's. I personally think Intel is more stable for gaming, but with a higher price point. So don't say ''AMD is so much better'' or anything like that, this is what I think. AMD is good, but Intel suits my needs better.

[@RyoCanCan]

So, I've decided to give AMD a chance and I'm gonna do my mATX gaming rig with AMD A10-7850K Black Edition and some Radeon R7 260x Crossfire goodness. Let's see how it goes.

[@0631565566]

The suspense is killing me XD

[@RyoCanCan]

Suspense? :D

[@0631565566]

How did AMD turn out for you?

[@RyoCanCan]

It's all cool and well. Might stick with it ^^ Surprised, in the most positive sense.

[@covenantoflegions6825]

I prefer Intel because ... eh ... I haven't tried AMD before .-.

[@TheStaticable]

I have a computer with an intel pentium it boots and renders faster than my amd fx chip

[@RedSoxFan8523]

Found this gem in my watch later list

[@lamm3rrr]

I need to know wich processor is better for gaming. (i7-4710mq quad core 2.50Ghz 6MB cache) or the i7-4610m 3.0Ghz 4MB cache. my graphycs card are going to be dual Gtx 860m 4Gb ddr5

[@MIGBMWLOVER]

I just want a system that would have a good perfomance, relatively low budget and not run Nvidia graphics....

[@Claweify]

MIGBMWLOVER what is wrong with Nvidia?

[@MIGBMWLOVER]

lets just say I have bad experience with her cards

[@grannyv8202]

MIGBMWLOVER R7 260X and Intel 4460

[@tankfire20]

MIGBMWLOVER get a i5 4690k always its the minimum

[@lelcetz7628]

Spoofy wrong. also a i5 is 200 dollars. and 8320 OC is 130 dollars max.

[@rishavsingh4915]

Amd is bad. My i5 4440 is better than the fx9590 which has 8 cores and runs at 4.7Ghz

[@markarnoldussen1683]

His CPU is much better than your precious fx9590. Show me one GAMING bench where the 9590 is faster :P. Plus you don't need a nuclear power plant to power your CPU

[@lelwat7756]

You just said what Linus didn't want. "Amd is bad". You could've just said Intel is faster even through it has fewer cores.

[@roary4092]

www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html But according to this website's benchmarks your processor is now where near AMD FX9590 and these are not gaming benchmarks, they are performance benchmarks. So just shut up and stop typing shit.

[@roary4092]

and don't think I am an AMD fan I personally use Intel

[@roary4092]

and you know what Intel will never be able to produce as good quality processor as FX 9590 for that price.

[@chrisb4308]

I've been using AMD since the days of socket 7. At the moment I have an AMD Fx 8320 running at 4.1Ghz. The price over Intel was lower and it does everything I need and more such as video encoding and conversion, image editing, email and internet. I have 16gb Corsair Vengeance red DDR 3 running at 1600mhz.

[@einstein9901]

What`s the difference between NCIX and Linus Tech tips?

[@SuicideFixated]

intel roooocks

[@vichrome6279]

fight the instinct man lol

[@lexkerim]

AMD rocks!

[@supahfly_uk]

I settled for the i7-4790k with the asus z97 mb for gaming and blender3d it works really well.

[@rcfanatic101]

Which would be better for an electronic music production application? I don't have a huge budget, but, since I'm not getting the best graphics card around, I have a little more money to spend on the CPU. But, I'm still trying not to spend too much money.

[@Felipe03000]

Low-Mid End PC = AMD High End PC = INTEL

[@Felipe03000]

Ben Silva Man this is verry difficult to explain. I only said that u should use AMD in low-mid end builds (PCs that can run the modern games\can run this games well) and INTEL in high end builds (can run the game maxed).

[@Felipe03000]

+Ben Silva Yep, u don't need 8 cores. U want. When building a High End PC u want to max everything related to gaming, running above 60 fps (or VPS when emulating). Also, u want your pc to last a long time running games.

[@Felipe03000]

Ben Silva yes, the more the cores the less it improves the performance... just like gpus.

[@Stringtrosor]

Wow thats just,, wow,, do this,, go out, pick up an amd fx 9590, and see if there is any game in the World you cant run "high end" and if there were 2 pcs right next to eachother and you didnt know wich one was the AMD or INTEL, you wouldnt be able to say that you are 100% sure wich one is AMD or INTEL

[@Felipe03000]

Stringtrosor TrosorString I RECOMEND Intel for high end (well, at least this generation). The problem with the 9590 is the temps. Yeah, it is a beast, but u need an water cooler... AND the power draw... just 2 high.

[@chrischoy9]

Well, I have a Toshiba Satellite with a 4th gen Haswell i5 4200U @ 1.6Ghz @ 2.6Ghz Turbo paired with a 2GB GeForce 740M. The main reason it was because of the fact that it has a awful lot better performance per watt than the AMDs 35W A10s which I have seen and despite having quad cores has less performance. The 15 watt 4200U offered ~6 hours battery life with basic use which was important for moving around campus, going to group meetings and some lectures. I do a lot of video conversion so hyper-threading + HD 4400 was a big plus as Intel graphics tend to perform better with decoding than all other GPUs in the market. The 740M/4200U combo was more than enough to run Crysis 3 and NFSMW at medim high settings. This was also a huge plus compared to regular AMD or Intel 35Watt CPUs because it didn't throttle due to the small amount of heat it produces.

[@mohamedmohamed-ej9kk]

hi friends i m working on Auto CAD and revit architecture program too. so can you Suggest me which CPU is best for me??

[@yahiahamdy6662]

Hi i have g41mt-s2pt rev 1.1 4gb ram and sapphire r7 240 1gb gddr5 gpu and pentium 4 630 @3.00ghz cpu i wanted to upgrade my cpu and remain with the other specs what cpu do u prefer to buy for gaming and cheap because i dont have much money iam 15

[@TheAverageGamer_CJ]

question, I am using a computer for programming. c# to be exact, which is better? intel or amd? one staff recommended is the amd but then the other day another staff said intel i7 is betorter.. so I'm confused, idk if they're trying to sell me the most expensive thing they have or what..

[@JamesSamsonFromAlaska]

Depends on what you intend to program. I program games/applications on Android. I like the read/write speeds compared to my friend's AMD moderate build.

[@happilicious]

shoyb ahmed it depends on yr needs. Intel currently has the strongest per core performance, if you did not use multicore features of c#, just look for intel. If u use it, then it will be based on yr budget that suits u, not the brand.

[@Raven10241]

hey linus why can't intel stream video or record video without a video capture card like and amd can is it hypertransport tech that makes the difference?

[@hupernika0]

Intel i7 3770k. I am not a CPU architect and don't fully understand how to differentiate between the two companies. So i chose intel because they have a good name for themselves and seemed reliable with lots of community support (Also it was on sale at Microcenter!).

[@lewismedlock6900]

Using a laptop 90% of the time with multitasking I have tried both and Intel with physical and virtual cores and hyperthreading gives a better experience in terms of speed and running cooler.

[@Ultrasonic00]

AMD Phenom II or quad core FX series E.G FX-4300. I use my machine for gaming on a single screen in in HD and the fact of the matter is that once you have a quad core CPU running at 3-4GHz most of the remainder of the work is down to your GPU's power. For me, there was no need to drop £700-£800 on a top of the line i7 Processor when a £100 FX CPU is all I need in the processing Department, and that was an unlocked version. You would barely get an i3 for that price bracket when spending with Intel and there would be little room to wiggle without the over clocking potential even if you did.

[@Kcy101]

This video was made in 2010, Alot has changed since, But this video still is uo to date, becasue what he talks about is still true, with the exception of RAM types supported, they both do all the latest rams. And it really depends on the user

[@donpaolo1980]

Hello friends, I hope you can help me out here. Let's say I wan't to have a computer that handles several programs at a time, I wan't to be able to smoothly render and edit my HD cam videos with Pinnacle or whatever and also at the same time have a rather good gaming PC (doesn't need to be a monster gaming PC) What would you recommend me to choose? I appreciate your input very much, thank you in advance!

[@THOMZcreation]

I have a Prev, gen AMD A10-6800k Quad, and for my budget (£500) it fits my needs perfectly, having awesome integrated graphics for a cpu/apu and excellent performance for the price! i think the topic, and clonclusions of this video are as much true today as they were when this video were released!

[@carolyng.9184]

Hi.. I just want to ask if this amount of $805.45 is my budget for a gaming set... that can run 100+ fps or 80 for heavy games. can you help what should I build ? Thank you for the help..

[@MrMental6001]

I use an AMD A4 5300 Dual core APU because it was only £35 and it is perfect for me and I think it might last me a good 2-3 years

[@MorganSkilly]

I am planning on building a gaming rig that I can develop games on using unity etc. as well as playing games such as battlefield and fallout. What would you guys suggest parts-wise so that I can keep the build at around $1000

[@jamieevans871]

+the morganator what can you salvage from your old machine ?

[@MorganSkilly]

+Jamie Evans I didn't have one

[@Ste_Taylor]

AMD FX 8350, was a cheap 8-core nearly 1000£/$ cheaper than the i7 equivalents I was looking at and offered extreme power for my autodesk 3D application needs. Also pretty sweet for when I wanna do some gaming

[@krustycream2012]

im more into gaming and i wanted to build myself a budget gaming. but i could make up my mind which cpu whats will work for me when i do my gaming. ive seen lots of videos, review, etc and people tend to say that amd is better for you to get a amd for your gaming