Futureproofing Your PC - Dispelling Some of the Myths NCIX Tech Tips

We've all heard the term "futureproof" before. This is a bit of a rundown (not a normal episode) of what that means, how you can do it, and what are the things that are best to make big investments to "futureproof" as well as things that are best to buy what you need then upgrade later.

[@McGladiator1]

This Should be called LinusSwagTips

[@JoelDjuel]

McGladiator LinusSkateTips

[@Dellcrw]

His outfit is not future proof.

[@farn0153]

True dat

[@joeyplays9443]

Considering this is from 2010...

[@DontFuckWitDreDay]

Back in the thug days of young Lil Drizzy Linus.

[@Theendgamelv3]

I wonder if Linus looks back at this video and goes *wtf was I wearing?* lol.

[@bentheguy101]

Gangstar Linus!

[@ramza675]

something begginners dont know is how certain components are more future proof than others. Gpu's and monitors are quite limited in their lifespan of relevance we are in a weird spot with the new 4k and other resolutions. The real truth however is that you dont need crazy high end everything just to play games. Theres nothing wrong with going with mid range gear and just playing at 1080p

[@Kennephone]

"new 4k and other resolutions", that didn't age well, now 1440p, and to a lesser extent 4k is basically standard on every decent monitor today. About a year ago I bought a 4k, 28'' hp monitor for $200, it was TN, and 60hz, and I have since upgraded to a 32'' LG 144hz 1440p, for $250. That was on prime day and now it's $319, but you can find smaller sizes inn different brands for about the same I payed for it.

[@CommanderTyphoon555]

This is a gem of a video! Anyone looking to build their first system should make it their duty to watch this at least once before embarking on their journeys.

[@Guesswhokk]

Future proofing is all about compatibility and it dependent on three things: 1 - How often do you intend to addon/upgrade (usually 3 months -3 years) and how often do you want to a complete system overhaul (usually 2 - 6 years)? 2 - What kind of things do you want your machine to do? e.g. Software and OS and how often do you intend to upgrade your software? 3 - Component maturity. It is better to choose mature/ mainstream technology not the premium stuff and definitely not the ones that are near obsolescence like IDE or ddr2, unless you have a very "specific" usage of your machine for cost reason. Most future proof components by "technology & duration" (order - highest first) - OS - 10 years (for Win7 end of support) - ATX case - dependent how often you abuse it - Case Fans & Ram cooler - 6 years+ - PSU - 5 years + (base on warranty) - CPU cooler - dependent on make - RAM - 6 months to 5 years (it dependent on mobo DDR support, but most builder would add half now and add the other half of ram slot when it cheaper in the future) - PCI peripherals - 4 years or less? (it still too early to say when this will end since this is a very common connection like sound cards) - HHD - 2-3 year crossover point (SSD is still reaching it maturity age while SATA connector is nearing end of life and "it seem" PCIE will take it place) - GPU - 2-4 years PCIE isn't the issue, the issue is the software e.g. latest games always pushing the boundary and demands the latest or decent hardware to run it (while GDDR5 are now replacing GDDR3) - CPU - 1 to 4 years - Moore law (yeah right), anyway it highly depends on how you intend to use your machine. CPU could be left alone for years or require 1 or upgrade before socket change and this tend to be for intensive calculation like FEA, CFD, Rendering, photoshop and not for realtime rendering like in games, which is a GPU job. But since it also highly dependent on mobo while mobo is the backbone to every other components, so if you intend to change socket size then you would need a complete system change. There is so much consideration when looking at the cost of each component and whether if it has reached it maturity as well as all the potential compatibility issues. So, if doing it for "cost reason" then get most of the components that are "fully matured" that would benefited you NOW (like this guy said). OR future proofing for "reliability reason" then get a complete system like a laptop and change the whole thing every 4 years+ (that is if you don't mind not running the highest settings for the latest games/ software) OR Buy into the Razer modular concept (BMW & thermaltake concept pc) Note: There is nothing wrong in running xp or even Win2k, but it really depends on what you use for and whether or not your software supports it.

[@hamyncheese]

Excellent response. I only wish you had more prominently made the point about the motherboard being the backbone of the system. But everything you said it right on target. I think Linus missed the mark in his presentation, but I still like his work and appreciate his knowledge.

[@Guesswhokk]

hamyncheese I do like most of Linus presentation, but thought a bit lacking in this one. Anyway, future proofing on a MOBO is basically the consideration of "all of above" (from my initial post), because it is the backbone to ever other components and you have to make sure it COMPATIBLE with everything that connect to the it, like "software (intended OS) and hardware (ATX size, connector location like and even down to the I/O plate for the ATX case). I would only recommend mobo upgrade if you intend to upgrade the CPU or even the whole system. I would consider Mobo and CPU into the same class. Because, if intended for CPU change then mobo need to change and vice versa (due to CPU socket pin numbers). The mobo driver, bios update usually last for 2~4 years before they can't be bother to write codes on an ever ageing board. I wouldn't recommend changing a slightly newer mobo while using the same CPU socket pins, because it a lot of hassle for very little performance gain unless your mobo was damaged. The whole point of mobo isn't about performances it about 1) reliability and 2) built in features like 7.1 surround, wifi card & etc. (so no need for extra dedicated pci stuff and the associated drivers to install), because less stuff attach to the mobo tend to be less clunk and hopefully more reliable. Same rule even apply to fans (you still need a lot of heat sink), because 1x large case fan (300mm) for example are equivalent to about 3 to 4x 120mm fans of air flow, while it run at lower RPM than 120mm ones, which means less noise!!! Basically for Mobo, less is more! Unless you want to light up your atx case like a Christmas tree with all sort of feature! 5.25 cup holder anyone?!

[@xMrin10se]

Looks like he's 16

[@jessetate6244]

***** More successful than both of you.

[@xMrin10se]

Jesse Tate Piss off fanboy

[@weskeeey]

Jesse Tate oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@jackkaiser1471]

Until recently he still did. xD

[@Night-Tid3]

Damn i thought you gonna throw some freestyle haha.

[@voiceofreason2008]

I LOVE the way you approach your audience You are not all out TECHY but not dumbing it down either and it's a nice balance, I think a mixture is best of these videos and reviews of tech and everything else you do is best, you have the diversity and the presentation skills to pull it off :)

[@EpistemicPolymath]

I always learn a lot from your videos... I love computers and you just make my passion stronger!! Thanks Linus

[@dgurevich1]

Due to me having several PCs, each with a different task to accomplish, e.g. gaming, HTPC, work PC, torrent server/remote storage and so on. My philosophy of buying components is this: Buy the best possible component for the PC with the most demanding task, then take its old component, and use it in the next PC. that way, when I buy something new, all of my rigs get an upgrade.

[@twylanaythias]

I must voice an objection to you saying you can't future-proof motherboards. While new chipsets are coming out all the time, many of them either don't offer significant improvements or are utter garbage - the strong, however, survive and proliferate. Not to mention the fact that the motherboard is the single most-difficult component to replace and the single most-crucial factor in how well any of your other components can perform. As an example... For the system I built about three years ago, I opted for the ASUS Crosshair Formula V mobo - $240 at the time, and still the model I recommend for anyone building an AMD-based system. You can drop in a $100 FX-6100 for the time being and easily upgrade to an FX-9590 (currently $400) or bigger when it comes down in price - or anything you like inbetween - and the system can handle it easily. Additionally, the 990FX chipset is damned near bulletproof and can handle up to 32GB of DDR3-2400 RAM (4 slots, vs 2 on most mobos - and I always recommend that their initial purchase fills exactly 2 slots) and up to 3-way SLI/CF. Valid point that few people really bother with SLI/CF, but the capacity generally means you've got plenty of room to upgrade your video without much concern for bottlenecks in that pipeline. Previously, I bought a Gigabyte AM2 (forget the specific model) which lasted from its original Sempron 3000+ (mid 2006) to an Athlon 64-3800+ (Lima, early 2008) all the way to an Athlon 64x2-5800+ (late 2009). Despite jumping a bit early (really should have waited for the AM2+s), it was a damned good board that handled everything I could throw at it for 5+ years. In fact, I still use it as a secondary system. Would have stayed my main system a while longer had it not been for the combination of a modest windfall plus everyone suddenly dropping AGP support. (Admit it - in 2006, you didn't think AGP was ever going away either.) I'm almost three years into my current system and, while I've yet to NEED to upgrade anything, I swapped the DVD-RW for a BluRay-RW and added an SSD for the OS. Though I am drooling over the FX-9590s and some of the better GPUs (my old 2GB PNY 560Ti still handles things pretty well), I don't expect to need a new mobo for a good long while yet. Because you CAN future-proof your motherboard.

[@tofujr]

Tldr

[@justthatguy3512]

Tony Su motherboards are future proof, you can use it for a long time.

[@gdfschimpi007]

"the motherboard is the single most-difficult component to replace and the single most-crucial factor in how well any of your other components can perform." You do realize an $80 motherboard performs just the same as a $250 one? You pay for the bells and whistles. Overclocking or not, I wouldn't buy a motherboard unless the CPU mosfet's are heatsinks. As for the 9590, it's now $250, if you have a solid board that can support it, I wouldn't second-guess plopping it in there.

[@twylanaythias]

gdfschimpi007 "You do realize an $80 motherboard performs just the same as a $250 one?" That's like saying that a $25,000 Toyota performs the same as an $80,000 Ferrari. They'll both get you to and from the grocery store but, when you open the throttle, the Ferrari blows the Toyota's doors off. Granted, not everyone needs to go "0-to-60 in wet-your-pants" but a quality motherboard can last you through several upgrades. Motherboards at the low end of the spectrum typically use chipsets 3-6 generations old, cheap capacitors, and low-quality solder. Even if the chipsets manage to support a newer CPU, you'll be pushing its limits - plus the support components (capacitors, solder, etc) will be nearing the end of their life cycle. Motherboards at the high end of the spectrum feature the "latest and greatest" chipsets, top-of-the-line capacitors, high-quality solder, etc. They fully support the newest generations of processors (and several generations beyond) and the support components are beefed-up to handle performance demands. As you pointed out, the FX-9590 CPU has fallen from $400 to $250 in roughly 3 months. The same happens with motherboards, though not as rapidly - mobo technology isn't quite as fast-paced at CPU technology. That same top-of-the-line motherboard which was around $500 at launch can be had for around half the price a year later. The really good ones suffer slower 'price decay' and maintain higher prices, even after their chipsets are superseded by newer ones. With a little smart shopping, you can find a rock-solid near-"latest and greatest" motherboard in the $175-$225 range which will outlast at least three $60-$90 mobos and still likely out-perform the fourth. The returns curve for motherboards is quite steep at the low end and nearly flat-lines at the high end. For most enthusiasts the 'breakover point' comes around $250, though it's closer to $150 for mainstream consumers - no appreciable benefit to spending more, but you lose performance and longevity by spending less. Of course, one also needs to know how to 'read the weather'... DDR4 is moving into the mainstream and next-gen APUs are on the horizon. Not quite the time to move on these yet but, in a year or two, it will be worth looking into them for most people. Shopping for computer components is like playing chess - the further ahead you're able to plan for, the better. While no one can predict the future with 100% accuracy, the voice of experience can dramatically improve the odds.

[@AzureWiler]

Twyla Naythias if you are staying with AMD *rolls eyes* kinda yeh, but actually you are paying for the extra PCI-e slots and features you probably are not going to use wich make it worthless if you consider you can buy a way more cheap one with same perfomarnce (chipset, sink, ram capacity etc) but with less toys. But the real top enthusiasts will rarelly choose AMD when they have an some monsters at intel and intel and nvidia loves to change technology (architecture, sockets, everything) really fast not just adding more cores to the old ones. >inb4 "you are an intel fanboy" I run an FX 8350 CPU.

[@87crimson]

Keep the good work man. I am going to build a rig once I finish most of my ps2 and wii backlog and I am trying to learn as much as I can. Your videos are really helpful.

[@kamma44]

It has helped reinforce my perspective on future-proofing. Thank Linus.

[@stevensolferino8486]

more episodes like this

[@ozokuv]

Yeah this was so great.

[@stevensolferino8486]

yup

[@AurrenTV]

Footage of Linus at his community youth group lecturing fellow children.

[@KitCatXIV]

Great video, I see a lot of future-proofing threads on various tech forums and it's always the same sort of thing.

[@TheUltamatium]

You my friend are a genius. All of this you pulled out of my mind. I subbed.

[@jonahnazaroff8821]

Intel Core i9 8980X, MSI Q650, 256GB Octo-Channel DDR5 RAM, 128-bit Windows 14 Ultimate Home Premium, NVIDIA GTX 1490Ti 8192 CUDA Cores 230 Trillion Transistors 32GB HBM8 VRAM 2nm Architecture, 24 x Intel 6400 Series 12TB SSDs in Raid 400, Corsair Obsidian 94380D

[@nymark9495]

Jonah Nazaroff i9 7980X this year, i9 8980X next year..!

[@sarah-_-6730]

Well, you predicted the i9!

[@schezo8678]

DDR5 is here!

[@TheBrinkofDestruction]

oh my gosh he looks sooooo cuuuuuute from 5 years ago O.O

[@NeekoTheFreeko]

great job linus! You hit all the points I would have if I, myself was explaining the subject to someone. Kinda got a little "yelly" towards the end but I don't know what was going on around your set :) very good point about the case especially. I've had my NZXT gamma for 4 years now and won't be changing it until the necessity for a atx mobo arises, with all the cooling options and at $40 I've been able to put what I would've spent on something fancier into SSD's.

[@vinccenzzo15]

This type of videos really gelp to think how to buy and what to buy for the needs wqe hvae today, it will be very useful to have more videos like this one.

[@PartyUpLive]

I'm planning on going with a: -Intel i7 -GTX 770. More than likely 2GB -16GB RAM and will eventually upgrade to 32GB if I feel I need too. Will try to go with DDR5 -Powersupply will be 750w Modular -Case will be the CM Storm Trooper Gaming full tower case. I just love the look of it and the features it has. -Haven't decided on motherboard yet. That's something I need to research. I will be building my PC for gaming and getting into graphics/video work for when I finally get serious with my websites, which means I will eventually be running. Not trying to future proof so much as get the best I can with the budget I have set.

[@haydeezz]

hei .. can u please tell me what ur doing with ur comp ? i mean i got 8gb of ram but never use more then 3-4 GB.. so what ur doing with 16? playing 10 games in same time ? or ?

[@PartyUpLive]

haydeezz gaming and will be getting into video/graphics and multimedia more for my websites.

[@roary4092]

Hey bro, from where are you going to get a thing that doesn't exist Eg: DDR5 RAM ?

[@PartyUpLive]

Meant to put GDDR5 next to the GTX 770

[@roary4092]

Oh! Can you do that ?

[@mjiles85]

Pretty much if your a hardcore gamer that plays the latest titles there is no way to future proof your computer unless you plan on playing the same games for ever which I highly doubt.

[@philpyung4831]

***** Look at Metro Last Light. Max everything out and there's maybe 2 or 3 GPUs that can keep it over 60 fps.

[@GangySVK]

I wanted to ask what the fuck is wrong with your hair but then I realized that it was a hoodie... oh the relieve.

[@Alniemi]

Great video, very sound advice. thanks!!

[@jaepierce]

i realize this is an old video but i like it. well done

[@RoupMcgee]

I completely agree. I never really thought about it like this. But yeah the PSU will last you awhile and so will a case. A case can theoretically last you forever. Sure you may have to upgrade a squeaky fan here or there but overall it's going to last. I just bought a new PSU last week for a new build, the one I'm currently using is about 5 years old. It still functions fine but it is getting old and I want a more efficient, more fresh power supply. Graphics cards are just not future proof. Unless you want to shell out a thousand dollars for a titan then it's just not going to happen. Even with that Titan, it's still not future proof. The Titan will be obsolete in two maybe three years, that's just the reality. I suppose part of "future proofing" depends on your expectations like Linus said. I feel like a processor is something that can be semi future proof. I know the FX8350 is a few years old now but I just picked one up as an upgrade from an older FX6100. If I would have gotten that 8350 when I got that 6100 I would not have to upgrading right now. I made the stupid mistake and now I'm actually paying more in the long run. BUT the 8350 is where my motherboard tops out. I can't have any of the 9000 series processors because the mobo can't handle the power necessary to run them. But since a processor needs to be upgraded way less often than a video card, I should be good with this processor for at least 2 or 3 years. The 8350 is generally what's recommended for newer games. I just upgraded a GTX 560 to a GTX 760. It's a big step up from the 560 but I understand that that card in no way future proofs my computer. I'll have to buy a new card in 2 or 3 years but that's the reality of pc gaming. Video cards and graphics technology advances so fast that you just cannot future proof it. I wish I could afford something better than a *60 series GTX card but I can't so the 760 is what I got. In a year or two maybe I'll get a 960 when the price drops. But whatever, rant over. I did prepare myself for future upgrades though. I got a motherboard with upgrades in mind. I couldn't afford the best of the best at the time but I knew in a couple of years when I have a better income level and prices are lower I could afford to upgrade to the newer things. Harsh reality, which is something I didn't think about before, is that now that I can afford the "best of the best" the best of the best from 2 years ago isn't the best of the best anymore. Still, I am usually restricted by my budget. Usually by the time I can afford to ugprade I just need a full new system build. Next time I build a system, I'm just going to go all out and get all of the latest and greatest in order to avoid having to do these frequent 2 to 3 year upgrades. Video card upgrades every 2 or 3 years is fairly normal though. I just realized I don't think anyone is going to read this but that's ok, I'm just talking. LOLOL.

[@mohanidzhd]

Jake Rindfleisch 3 years old HD 7990 still max any game released this year, and can probably max games for the next 2-3 years at 1080p.

[@RoupMcgee]

mohanidzhd Well that's not true, I assure you.

[@mohanidzhd]

Jake Rindfleisch It is true, HD 7990 runs Watch Dogs maxed to full at 60+ fps 1080p. Can run games at 1440p, its equivalent to r9 290x and gtx 970 with more Vram. Both of these GPUs are high-end GPUs. Considering high-end GPUs aim for 4k and 1440p, HD 7990 has to fall to a mid-range level for 1080p gaming to consume full of its power. AMD are usually patterned, HD 6870 is almost equal to HD 7770, and HD 7770 is almost equal to r9 260x. So HD 7990 would be R9 380x this year, R9 470x next year, R9 560x 2017. 5 years playing highest quality ;)

[@RoupMcgee]

Yeah it works fine for games that are out now but it will not be able to max out games for the next 2-3 years. I don't know one card that will be able to do that unless you drop a thousand dollars on a Titan.

[@mohanidzhd]

Jake Rindfleisch Did you even read? GPUs that aim for 4k will run future games at 1080p. Just like the HD 7990 is doing now. sli gtx 980, r9 295x2, r9 390x or gtx 980 ti that run new games at 4k 60fps would easily max games in 3-4 years at 1080p 60fps. My 3years old 7970 OC still maxing all titles released today.

[@benjamen007]

Used two GTX 780s in SLI on my Coolermaster V700, power supply would turn off if I had the 4.6 GHz overclock on my Intel Core i5. Turned that off and everything is fine in stress test. My fault for not future proofing my PC. Probably am going to get a EVGA Supernova G2 1300W.

[@gdfschimpi007]

V700 is more than enough for powering 2 780's.

[@benjamen007]

gdfschimpi007 Yeah it is (WITHOUT THE CPU OC. I'm not the only one that had this issue with 2x 780s and CPU OC. Though the 780s will run fine if I do not have my CPU overclock settings on. I think it's just the cooler master v700 being the problem. 

[@gdfschimpi007]

Ben Major Yeah it is. Stock is fine anyways, not like you'd even notice a difference. 3.4Ghz is nothing to laugh about when compared to AMD.

[@benjamen007]

I'd still need to upgrade my power supply if I even want to overclock my graphics card slightly. I doubt paying $240 for this power supply was worth it.

[@gdfschimpi007]

Ben Major I never trusted CM power supplies to be honest... I always buy Antec PSU's. For $124 the Antec EA-750 has 100A on the 12v rails combined. Your v700 has 58A... It does have a five year warranty, but I still wouldn't trust their flaky PSU's

[@robertleighton8525]

Hey guys! First, well done on this video. Second you NEED to show more video like this one. I have been building PC's for over a decade professionally, and now today I finally have a way to describe to people why the term "Future proof" is absurd! Also now, if they really don't understand I sit them down to 9:47 Video, and have my Canadian Friends at Linus Media Group make it clear;O) Thanks for keeping my hopes alive that there are intelligent people among the giant herd!

[@yabotiloccurs]

yes this video has changed my perception. Thanks a lot this has really helped.

[@dakitofey171]

this video just reminded me of my mortality :p

[@aNotoriousPhD]

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Be Quiet DARK ROCK 2 57.9 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case BenQ XL2420TE monitor Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Single Unit Version Internal Solid State Drive Western Digital Caviar Green 3 TB SATA III 64 MB Cache Bare/OEM Desktop Hard Drive SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W power supply

[@aNotoriousPhD]

***** I realized that after some more research (this is a planned build), and decided to go with the same brand except 750W instead of 550. thanks for the advice though!

[@Blakcphantom]

NotoriousPhD yeah i was gonna say that 550 is pretty low i would definetly be safe and get 750 watt

[@JacobStar91041]

Blakcphantom - Lets play some games! 600-650 would work excellent aswell. But just wait until Maxwell highest end king graphic cards come out, running easily on 550w.

[@aNotoriousPhD]

JacobStar91041 When do you think maxwell cards will be released? I want to wait for it but it seems like the release keeps getting delayed

[@aNotoriousPhD]

JacobStar91041 or the top end 20nm gpus, to be specific

[@darkkronosss]

Just wanted to say we don't just want more episodes like this one, we need them! I purchacased a new pc, on a budget, just a couple of weeks ago, can't say I took any bad decissions, but i really hope I had seen this before i maxed out my RAM paying some money I could have spend on a little beter cpu or gpu

[@TheSecretCobra]

Exactly, my Maximus V Extreme is literally one of the Highest-End Z77 Mobos out right now, but Intel Z87 boards are already being teased by Asus and shown off by ASRock. Different socket as well, moving from LGA 1155 to LGA 1150.

[@thedarkstar1000]

Extreme editions and SLI makes a PC future proof for spreadsheets and word docs?! Sounds perfect for my mum... I'll get her that...

[@DogeCharger]

My dad says that it's not worth it to spend 600$ on a PC. ;_; He says that "the more you pay, the more you lose" So I'm forced to use this kind of setup :/ AMD-FX 6300 3.5ghz 6-Core 6gb G.Skill DDR3-1600 EVGA GeForce gt 640 (Dual Slot) 4gb 901 mhz would this be a god build, or not? I'm planning in doing some gaming and video editing.

[@Abyssnyan]

I have a gt640 and it runs most games at low/medium.

[@DogeCharger]

Ok.. I know that my computer then at least isn't that bad when ti comes to performance ratio then. Thank you. :P

[@Abyssnyan]

What games do you prefer?

[@DogeCharger]

Minecraft, Prison Architect, BF3/4

[@Abyssnyan]

Minecraft runs with VSync and Fancy at about 60-120fps with my FX-8120 and BF3 runs at 30-60fps on medium/high settings.

[@colonialgandalf]

I don't mind this style of episode at all nice work man :)

[@Capricorn_IV]

I built my PC over 4 years ago and it's still going strong. I7 920, 6GB ram, 160gb SSD & GTX580 running games at 1080p high/max settings. The only upgrade I made was buying a 580. I'm planning on building a new one end of next year though but I'm after a new monitor so going to buy a nice 27" 1440p this month and run games with my gtx580 at medium/high settings with no AA until new build nxt year.

[@elhentoplays6050]

I would like to see more vids like this please. i get alot og questions about future proofing too and this will make it easier to explain. ill just link this vid to the questioners- "future proof" can only be don to a certain point.

[@IAMCY8ORG]

The last computer i built for myself was a Core 2 Duo with 4GB ram and a 9800GT graphics card, And it still works like a charm to this day. We currently use it as a Home Cinema PC. The new build i made just last week has 64GB of 2400MHz Ram. with a i7-3930K CPU and 1 GTX670. The reason i got 1 GTX670 is because by the time i will actually need 2, I could spend that $400 on a something better like a Titan when the price drops in a few years. Oh and a Cosmos II Case :D Love it!

[@KieranWrightPhoto]

loved the video :). it really opened my eyes :). keep making videos like this! :)

[@VertuAnuMundu]

very helpful! Thanks so much. I was looking into an Asus z87(5 year warranty and so on), because i was thinking: "That LG1150 socket is pretty new now, it will be available for some years at least". But that vid made me think about that again, and i will try to cut down on everything as far as possible because i only want somewhere medium to high quality gaming. The only thing that was strange is, that i was satisfied with my Nvidia M260 until now.. It is old, but did a fairly good job for me.. Thats why i was thinking a about getting a system that should be fairly good for about 5 years. Sadly, it's too unpredictable.

[@brunoWoWps]

Its really nice to see my rig, a M4A79T Deluxe with Phenom II quad 965 and GTX 480, still hold up the games pretty well on high settings. I could play battlefield 4 beta no probl at high settings, not ultra but its ok for a more than 3 years rig. So worth you buy the highest end VGA card right now, like the GTX 780ti or the 290x

[@TheMystcast]

i learned a lot from this video i was going to buy somthing then upgrade it months down the road like the graphics card and probably get a ssd.

[@gomez1323]

I chose the GD55 for the OC Genie button since I'm still new to overclocking, and I like the UEFI Bios. I'm sticking with it because I'm going for a black and blue build.

[@wiiwinii]

np. Might want to consider the 7870 XT edition as well, it uses the architecture from the 7900 series but is only 10~20 dollars more expensive than the normal 7870.

[@SuperTsogo]

Excellent video. I wish I watched this sooner. I guess unless the hardware specs get infinite it's never gonna be future proof.

[@Tubetactullar]

Thnx guys for all the input. BTW I got the sli since I already had a 660 and I was buying some new gear and had a little extra so I thought why not try sli for a chance. I know atm I won't get 100% oput of it but it will pay it self of in the near future plus its cheaper for me then to upgrade to a hig end card.

[@diegkol]

My future-proofing motto... make sure you can solder in capacitors, or knows someone that can.

[@abdulgokarslan2994]

thanx lins all the thinks abaout game pc's , i have learnd from you

[@You54842D]

This has changed my perspective.

[@NoNarcotics]

I havent seen much of your videos, but i like the style of both kinds. The only bone i have to pick is that you dont have a capture card and therefore have to show the tv screen as an example.

[@zlatkegamez]

Great configuration. I recommend getting 7970 then overclock it. New AMD HD 8000 series are coming out and I'm hoping 7970 will drop in price a little bit.

[@mynhardtkitshoff3022]

Hi Linus I like these type of video's...keep them comming please.

[@badillaboy]

I like this type of video and tells me more and how to think things threw better and yes my current cpu is good for a few years more to come. just need to get the guts to build a system on my own lol soon.

[@branttheant]

I like this form of tutelage, you are very informative.

[@L3THALXFOX]

I love theese old videos of high end stuff

[@AeroSixWJ]

I was sooooo close to buying one of those 2 exact cards. Microcenter had a sale on 660's, so I went ahead and got a 660.

[@sobekflakmonkey]

sick sweater brah, I live in Vancouver, love it!

[@PatrickBorkar]

Definitely, want to watch more episodes like this... :-)

[@kleanlins]

i would like to see more of this kind of videos

[@jesus83700]

my e8400 died last week after 2 years @ 3.6ghz on air, pretty much all day long :P still have my amd 5770. Played bf3 on medium/high with over 30 fps @ 1680*1050. I won't go for ssd yet. I'm good with my 7200rpm. Startup 3 seconds faster, or after using the pc a wholle day and wait some milliseconds more everytime i do something and end up "loosing" 3 mins in my day won't kill me. Soo yeah. anyways nice vid ncix ;) Keep it comming

[@osmondlorenzocontreras1622]

Hello! Linus! This is 2019 and u have already 8m subs to ur channel!

[@leiflundberg]

Hello NCIX Tech Tips, thank you very much for this video, it has helped me a lot. ;)

[@redcat608]

This was a great video and I would love to see more! my pc components would be: Windows 8.1 16 GB of Ram 120 GB SSD (only for OS) Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 HDD Gigabyte 780 ti windforce 1000 watt modular PSU Intel Core i7-4820K Corsair Hydro H100i

[@TylerTisaowa]

I already had future proofed mine for 2-3 gen, for quite a while, 3 screens(adapter was added), radeon 7870, i5 3770k, 16gb ddr3 @ 1600, 120gb ssd os, 2 1tb hd's, (2 300gb raptors, 500gb, 640gb added later), 880w(boosts to 1080w) hiper type r mk2 psu 80+ (tideover from my core 2 duo build). wasn't until i wanted to run crossfire on my asrock board that i had to upgrade the psu from hyper to a cosair rm780

[@rbaleksandar]

While I have to agree that a case is to some extend a piece of art I would also add a more important aspect - how well it cools stuff in it and where it is located (in an office, in a bedroom, in a living room etc.). Ventilation which is part of the design of a case is critical for the system especially if that system is supposed to run around the clock under heavy load (for example a workstation where you have it render some complex and large 3D scene for days without interruption). Next thing is the size (which of course also influences the airflow I have mentioned previously) - depending on how many components you want to pack inside you will have to choose the size form very carefully. This also applies if you plan on upgrading including adding new stuff to your system.

[@DannyOvox3]

That is really true, when I built my first PC I was not an expert so I cheaped out on things for example my motherboard. I bought a cheap motherboard which only had 3 PCIe expansion slots, later down the line I wanted to integrate a huge powerful GPU and it took about 2 PCI slots only leaving me with one which did not work with my WIFI adapter, I had to buy a new motherboard...

[@erickthetechie]

Thank you, great video. I'm going to build a rig with a i7 3770k, 2x4 gb hyperx ram, GA-z77-ds3h, 750w power adapter, and a zalman z9 u3 case. this will go under 700 dollars. Futurely I might buy a MSI GTC 660 ti PE. I plan this build because want to add more ram to 16 gb in the future, and because I don't want to waste a lot of money now, This processor is really good for the price but I want to get an Extreme Edition processor in the next few months or years.

[@ubermouse007]

thanks a lot!! I changed up my mind. First i was gonna buy a gtx680, but since i dont really need fps from like 80+, i'm gonna stick with the 660 Ti :)

[@zeri0um329]

My dad built a system 5 years ago and it´s still is a beast supercomputer

[@FrosTaii]

Having HT actually helps in games that are bad ports as well for streaming big textures, also for games that run a lot of simulations like AC3 or Civ V because the game uses CPU to compute moves or run the intensive AI in AC. Plus you never know when you need HT, like for screen capture. It helps.

[@woebaby]

So I just got this which I think is pretty well balanced: i7 4770k, gtx 770, 2tb barracuda (but I splashed out on a 500gb evo ssd which I know isn't really in the future proof category but the prices are almost getting into that comfortable range now), 16gb corsair vengeance, asrock z87 pro3. I had everything else from an older build. What do you think?

[@roberttomsiii3728]

I found this really helpful and am more enlighten for it.

[@alexandrobeato6630]

Great informative video

[@johnathonpatrie7653]

Love all your vids. This vid wasn't so much useful to me but a lot of your other vids ARE!!! :D:D:D

[@FrumpyPumpkin]

I just bought an AMD system with an 8 core in the hope that games will become more heavily threaded and the performance will increase. I consider that future proofing in the sense that the described scenario is likely and I'll see a gain over time.

[@brettmasters3626]

ok i am planing on building a pc soon and i will use the ASROCK x99 extreme 11 or the ASUS x99 ws motherboard, i do some gaming and so 2 way, 3 way and 4 way sli or crossfire would be good as a option but i also like music both building a library and creating my own, archeology and designing houses and landscapes is also a passion of mine so these boards will allow for large storage options as well as pci connectivity and a crap tone of memory to boot. now keeping in mind that the ASROCK x99 extreme 11 allows for 18 ssd,s i am also investing in a COOLER MASTER STACKER CASE that i can gut and re use at any time and will most likely be the last case i will ever buy. in short this will do pretty much everything i wont and in the future if technology renders this out of date for gaming i will simply buy a later model board and incorporate it into the stacker case for future gaming options. the way i see it, the case is the only thing that is future proof and in 3 years time i still may need to gut the stacker case and start over, such is the advancements in technology.

[@izzya5725]

So this is where it started!

[@Tylerjrb]

good points, thats why im saving that little extra to build the pc that i want instead of getting cheaper parts.

[@MrNamegame]

Around the time the Intel DG35EC was made, there was also a lot of different LGA 775 (or 755?) motherboards that were meant for much higher end stuff than the DG35EC was. Even though the DG35EC was used almost as much as these other higher-end Intel boards for a long time, the majority of the other boards have failed or are close to it while I own a DG35EC that has gone to hell and back multiple times like your grandparents go to the grocery store, and it's still in very good condition and performs very pleasingly with a Q6600 and a GTX 460 SE 1GB sitting on it. Of course it isn't gonna be playing modern games for much longer, but this is my little brother's temporary machine I'm talking about rather than my own actual gaming rig...however, if I knew how to convert a computer into a server machine, this would do nicely for a small time server aside from the obvious fact that my internet bill would be *this rape description is unsuitable for anyone that is too scared to pull wheelies on a scooter down a erupting volcano with your hair on fire chasing down a jeep full of lions with rocket launchers*.

[@Kuhchuk1]

And that's even assuming that it would work in PCI-e or AGP (even MORE unlikely) slots in a modern motherboard.

[@SirAlphafax]

Justnoticed I made a typo in the GPU section, that's supposed to be ASUS GTX 680, not EVGA. And just to clarify, I'd try to go with 2133MHz memory sticks for the RAM.

[@MahmoudMaguid]

More like this!!! please. thanks

[@rambothegreat18]

a decent case, 16gb of ram, a cpu of atleast 3.0 ghz, 1000watt psu, and gtx 660ti in SLI or gtx 670 and up on their own. thats my "futureproof" PC :) I currently have a TT element G with intel CPU @ 3.2ghz liquid cooled. 12 gb ram, Palit sonic platinum GTX460 in SLI and 750 watt psu. have had this for about 2 and a half years now and still going strong on the latest games.

[@Y0G0TPWND]

The GTX Titan is great for those spreadsheets!

[@Arian9]

Ive got a huge man crush on this guy. Your the man !

[@MatthewBoy11]

@KnightInWhite1O1 yeah, thats exactly what im doing. that sli will be very strong, I mean if you look at benchmarks of even gtx 460s, theres games being run at 100+ fps today

[@davymike761]

Great video!

[@seldian]

If your going to go with that expensive of a board, the z79's with 2011 sockets are a pretty good investment. I havnt seen one customer at our shop who wasnt impressed with it.

[@SergeySedlovsky]

I've started building a new rig that I will be using for Audio Production, Gaming and Multimedia this video is pretty good, essentially I still have a fairly good system that I bought back in 2007 that cost me a fortune but it's already struggling, so now it's 2013 and we're talking a 6 year difference... So yeah, it's possible to future-proof your system, it's especially easier now because we're getting to a point where technology is somewhat bottlenecked

[@boen747]

i think i did pretty good with future proofing my system, atm im running a 1156 socket motherboard with a i7 2600k aswell as a gtx 670 with 2x SSD drive 120G. The major loss i had was on the SSD drives as they set me back $500 for just 250g, they are roughly half that in price now how ever my other parts are still sweet for a bit (Used a ATI 4850 as my graphics card in my build untill the 600 series came out.)

[@MochiNPRA]

I worship the words in this video

[@25kile]

good video men keep the good work! love the videos!

[@Robin1436MC]

Considering the new FX 9000 serie. There is a new standar to applied to all motherboard. They now need to provide 220 watt to the cpu and this is basicly why buying a good motherboard is worth it.

[@cainKuri]

Really Nice !

[@ViruZHUN]

more episodes like this plz

[@h4z3m1]

I agree with Linus.Being alwayds dependent on high end products just to be "futureproof" can be a waste of money.I had a Dell optilex 775 as far as I remember and it taught me alot about pcs and how I can manage the struggle with such pcs when trying to run high end games.If I had bought a high end pc I would be very dependent on it and I wouldn't learn anything just because I wouldn't need to solve problems on a high end pc, everything would run just fine but having dealt with some struggle in my life it definitely taught me alot of stuff that helped me.

[@h4z3m1]

Well the good thing about them they have very solid cases but other than that theyre just shit,at least the low end ones.