America reacts to UK's Secret Armed Police

[@Joanna-il2ur]

There is a difference between ‘secret’ and ‘I didn’t know about it’.

[@davephillips9035]

😂😂😂 that’s so true, there are no secret soldiers or police in the Britain, we know about all of them

[@CoDCrafted]

@@davephillips9035And how would you know that we know about all of them lol

[@chrisellis1232]

Americans don’t know much so I’m not surprised 😜

[@johnmcintosh5413]

Is that like the Masons 🤔 did I say that out loud ohh 😮

[@CoDCrafted]

@@av812bb My point is that there could still be secret soldiers, and we'd have have no way of knowing because you cant prove a negative.

[@steveroberts728]

FYI These are not secret Police, they are armed Police whose job is to protect Britains nuclear weapons and establishments containing nuclear material. They provide static security, canine units and armed response units. They are under direct control of the Ministry of Defence. Their main role is to protect against threats from terrorists, hence the reason they are so heavily armed. They are not Military Police although they have been known to work alongside them.

[@Embertop]

Ministry of Defence you mean..

[@bigben007dj]

1. you mean ministry of defence, and 2. they are literally called MOD Police. They do more than just nuclear, they also protect everything that is MOD related in England, in comparison to a couple armed police teams in the met the MOD police aren't really anything special. However all English armed police (all teams and divisions) are much better trained that the us police and most other armed police around the world

[@davidfilcher]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Nuclear_Constabulary

[@davidfilcher]

It’s not mod but it’s the civil nuclear constabulary, the only regularly armed police service in uk . One of the entrance tests is you have prove you are weapons competent. Usually they recruit from the armed forces direct.

[@DiminutiveBob]

@@davidfilcher this video is not about the CNC. It is about the MOD Police that protect nuclear weapons, not civil nuclear sites.

[@TheZeroAssassin]

"I wonder if other countries think American police are like this?" No mate, we don't expect them to be that organised :)

[@blacktemplar2377]

Beats getting locked up for saying hurty words tho.

[@alfieshaw8804]

​@@blacktemplar2377 I mean not when a lot of Americans get shot over acorns at minimum 😂

[@elliottsw]

The UK Police live by the idea, "If you're going to do something, do it properly". So when we do armed police, they're the best armed police in the world (or as close as we can get).

[@mrmagoo.3678]

Exactamundo! 🎉

[@jakemensik2842]

Except they aren't. GSG9, GIGN, Marshall SOG, FBI HRT would like to have a word with you.

[@elliottsw]

@@jakemensik2842 yeah some of those will be better than some of the UK police, I don't doubt it. At the end of the day it's down to individual performance so it's impossible to say overall who is the best - hence my parenthesis. They are at the top alongside other nations like some of those you listed. Worth pointing out as well that the police occasionally use SAS and SBS for internal security operations so while they aren't part of the police service, they would definitely count as some of the most elite available. Besides all that, my comment wasn't meant as a pissing contest, just that we as a nation believe that anyone with a gun should be trained to the absolute best of their ability to use it, and not just given a bit of training and sent out there. There are no rookie police officers with guns in the UK and that's what I like about it.

[@hair4alluk]

@@elliottsw Well written Elliot and your as humble as a good British man. Thanks for your two posts

[@iosis2009]

Practiced alongside local armed police at my local gun club, and I can tell you with all honesty, it was a running joke in the club how mediocre these guys were at shooting. Not saying they were bad, but they were middle of the road

[@mariecadavieco6118]

They are NOT Secret Police.

[@Korbit523]

This video covers the Ministry of Defence Police, they are a more unknown service across the UK as they are rarely seen/come across by the majority of the public. Hence why the video refers to them as a secret police service. Unlike the more commonly seen Armed Response officers which are in every constabulary across the UK and not a secret.

[@andythoms8130]

Clickbait title...

[@maxwellturnbull1903]

They are known as " MODPLOD ".

[@geoffpriestley7310]

There is also the The Civil Nuclear Constabulary that protects nuclear power stations they armed and not military

[@geoffpriestley7310]

@@maxwellturnbull1903a grandson in the military police. His wants to see the world, then join the civil police whether that works out is another matter. so far I have 2 grandsons 1 granddaughter and a grandson in law in the army. my grandads both served in the army in the 1st snd second World Wars. one was in the horse artillery. But my dad was in the navy. I never joined any of military strange how things work out

[@ralphbuurman4489]

They took one shot at the man pointing a gun at them. After the shot they quickly re-assessed the situation to determine if more potentially lethal force was needed. American police officers in a similar situation are more likely to shoot and empty their gun magazines and to shoot to kill instead of to shoot to eliminate the immediate threat. Clearly the big difference with regards to training comes into play, as well as cultural differences.

[@matthewwalker5430]

Yes, thats's true (they all shoot to kill though, that's what 'eliminating the threat' means), but these guys are carrying rifles and they're properly trained. Unfortunately America has so many guns on the streets that their police cannot afford to wait for highly trained armed officers (basically SWAT) on EVERY interaction. It means that their average police officer has to deal with it and they're usually only armed with a pistol. There's a BIG difference between shooting with a rifle and shooting with a pistol and, with the latter, the chances of you taking down an armed suspect with 1 shot is pretty slim, and if you fail to take an armed suspect down in 1 shot they may well shoot you or someone else. When the more highly trained American police do turn up on the scene with their rifles, guess what? They usually only need 1 or maybe 2 shots to take the suspect down too. I'm not trying to advocate for police emptying entire magazines into people, just trying to give some balance and reasoning for why they do this. It looks pretty barbaric at first but those police aren't in some blind panic just holding the trigger down until their gun is empty, they're actually told to do that in training because, sadly, they've learned the hard way through experience that you REALLY have to make sure someone is down when you've 'only' got a pistol on your hip. Ideally I guess all American police would carry rifles, but then that brings up other issues with public interactions and cost and training and so on and so forth. There are no easy answers other than to take away as many guns as possible and Americans are just not going to let that happen.

[@stevetheduck1425]

There's a difficult history between military, police and civilians about what 'shoot to kill' means, that's why it isn't used. But personally, I believe it comes down to a long history of difference between how British and other services think of shooting. British usually emphasise 'hitting the target', while others (not all) emphasise 'weight of fire'. 'Killing the enemy' or 'having a firefight'.

[@richardjohnson2026]

So true 👍

[@Richard500]

@@matthewwalker5430 Every time a soldier or a police officer discharges they weapon at someone they are NOT aiming to wound.

[@WasiuAlatise]

UK only needed them after mass immigration & illegals flooding in the English destroyed a small Island in 60 years the genocide is well underway in the last 3 day's 1500 illegals have arrived collected from France & Germany

[@mattendspiel9341]

I once took a walk around Denge Marsh in the UK and ended up close to Dungeness Nuclear Power Station. Within 2 minutes, I was approached by 2 armed officers who were there to simply let me know that they were there. Really nice chaps, they told me about their role to protect the power station from any would-be attacker or trespasser. I wasn’t trespassing but they calmly explained that if I looked like trouble, I would be taken down. I thought it best not to send them my dry cleaning bill…

[@taffman1]

Likely to be the Civil Nuclear Constabulary.

[@coot1925]

Let me give you some context as to why our gun laws and police are set up in this way. Gun deaths 2022 UK 32 US 40,000 School shootings 2023 UK 0 US 326 (so far) I think our system works fairly well.

[@claregale9011]

God bless America 😅

[@stevetheduck1425]

@@claregale9011 Good luck Americas, North and South, both continents.

[@glastonbury4304]

​@@claregale9011..yep, land of the fee!!

[@kevinbrown-ge6sz]

Liar, liar, pants on fire. There were roughly 23,000 total homicides in the US in 2021. I don't know where you got the 40,000 gun deaths. There were roughly 800 homicides in the UK for the same period and when you consider the population of the US is 6.5 times that of the UK the differences are not so dramatic. As far as school shootings go, I'm pretty sure your numbers are off also. Considering that knives are the weapons of choice in the UK, you should probably use those numbers as a comparison to guns in US schools. The problem is, the UK keeps those numbers a closely guarded secret.

[@coot1925]

@@kevinbrown-ge6sz and apparently the US keeps it's gun death figures a closely guarded secret from its citizens.

[@enemde3025]

M.O.D = Ministry Of Defence. From what I've seen of American police, they just empty the entire magazine into someone and ask questions later !

[@jayburton1743]

And then get away with it 😂

[@Lizzie-h3j]

Yep! Have you heard about Ulvade? I've never seen such cowardice.

[@ceresbane]

Its not even given the same degree of scrutiny. There is plenty of cases where US police use excessive force, kill somebody and nothing happens to the cop.

[@fabshop6359]

This is not a secret, if it were this video would not exist.

[@t.a.k.palfrey3882]

No, these are not akin to police SWAT in the US. British constabularies (which each cover large geographical areas) each have one or several Armed Response Teams (ARTs), which correspond to US SWATs. There are 45 territorial police constabularies in the UK, plus British Transport Police, the Civil Nuclear Constabulary, and the Ministry of Defence Police. So there are a total of 48 police forces in the UK, compared to 18,000 different police forces and agencies in the US. 🙄

[@markjeffers1341]

your comment is bang on, however playing devils advocate I believe you can fit england into the state of texas, so if thats true theres 48 services for the 1 area.

[@glastonbury4304]

​@@markjeffers1341....what... lmao...texas is twice the size of England has half the population and everyone in Texas carries a gun...lol 😂

[@antonycharnock2993]

@@markjeffers1341 360 million vs 70 million. That's still a lot of separate police forces. Texas is what around 28 million people. How many police forces in Texas alone? And its the UK not just England.

[@markjeffers1341]

@@glastonbury4304 and about 1 year ago had the uvalde incident and despite having the guns, no one had the balls to use them until it was too late.

[@markjeffers1341]

@@antonycharnock2993 furthermore for comparison- borough market incident- 3 terrorist with fake bomb vests and bladed weapons- killed by 3 ARV guys and 500 + rounds within 3 minutes, after an unarmed BTP cop fought them first, having the guns means nothing without the balls to use them clinically and appropriately.

[@tiggerwood8899]

There were 6,192 police officers licensed to carry firearms in England and Wales as of 2022.

[@rebeldoesplanes]

That’s different

[@syst3mselite]

I think you’re a bit off - is London included?

[@syst3mselite]

nvm i was wrong

[@rebeldoesplanes]

@@tiggerwood8899 that was normal arv’s, not ministry of DEFENSE police or sfo, ctsfo, etc.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@rebeldoesplanes Defence not Defense, this is the UK.

[@mike5d1]

The regular British Police do carry firearms, they are just restricted to the Armed Response Units.

[@WasiuAlatise]

UK only needed them after mass immigration & illegals flooding in the English destroyed a small Island in 60 years the genocide is well underway in the last 3 day's 1500 illegals have arrived collected from France & Germany

[@ULSTERISBRITISH]

Not true. Some British carry them. All PSNI still carry side arms because and especially lately there's still a chance of terror attack against police by scummy dissident republicans to murder officers

[@gutsblackswordsman3986]

That is not true i am a security guard i work all over london train stations victoria ect armed police are at every station or have a stash/locker to access firearms. Regular police do not carry firearms the armed response unit AFO/TFU officers are a unit and do carry fire arms

[@chiefdoesgaming8269]

Fun fact the Northern Irish police (PSNI is the UK police force in northern Ireland) all for the most part carry guns.

[@chiefdoesgaming8269]

@@gutsblackswordsman3986 Yeah this ain't that common outside of London. Possibly excluding some larger stations in other regions but that isn't common.

[@catgladwell5684]

This had nothing to do with a routine traffic offence stop.

[@suppenjunge]

He was joking, obviously

[@jaclam1]

@@suppenjunge He was trying... sadly, his jokes aren't funny.

[@alfieshaw8804]

Your an absolute wankstain u can't even understand a joke 😂😂

[@charlescurren674]

I think its fair to say there is just a very different mentality and training regime between the two forces in general. I remember being in Fort Lauderdale in Florida on a project several years ago. There was a law enforcement event that included a Police shooting in Miami. I am sure the incident was partially driven by animosity as two Policemen had been shot earlier in the incident but the suspect was shot by the police officers 150+ times, when asked by Channel 7 news (?) why he had "been shot 150+ times"? The Miami Police Chief actually answered "Because we ran out of bullet's"!

[@antonycharnock2993]

FFS. We had to make sure he was dEaDeD eNoUgH.

[@grindelston5968]

Bullshit

[@scobra5941]

I heard he survived and got a job as a tea bag.

[@ScottMETALHEADUK]

​@@scobra5941ffs 😂😂😂

[@leeds7895]

the UK is the definite example of quality over quantity

[@Mike72UK]

Really? depends where you live in the UK. There's definitely no quality or quantity in Cornwall

[@karadan100]

@@Mike72UK Then move to Devon lol.

[@Wintr66]

😂😂😂 no it isn't

[@AsteriasASMR]

Cheek! Everything’s quality in Cornwall my Lovely😂x

[@alfieshaw8804]

Agreed n not just within the police and armed forces it goes on to all our military and secret operations branches aswell

[@Shoomer1988]

Nothing secret about them, and some of the regular police do have guns - each shift in an area will have at least one Armed Response Unit

[@michael_177]

"will it justify a follow up shot" - Lol ive seen enough American police bodycams, if one officer makes a shot, every single officer in the vicinity will unload their entire magazine into the suspect. America.

[@inegom1735]

Im my line of work I often bump into these guys. Despite the vid they are very chill and wont be pointing guns at you even if you are wandering about where they think you shouldnt be. While more on alert, they still take the same pragmatic and de-escalating approach as our normal police. But i wouldnt want to be on their wrong end :P

[@sharonmartin4036]

This is NOT a traffic stop. Also, these are not secret police, but they are fearsome. Each constabulary has at least one such unit.

[@arthour051]

Mm, no, these arent regular armed police, theyre the MOD police, which is separate to the regular police forces. They only have one job, maintain the peace in and around MOD installations. As the installations are critical to the nation's defense, they're all armed and specially trained.

[@denniswilliams160]

There's also The Civil Nuclear Constabulary, which is a unique armed police force, trained to College of Policing standards who maintain the security of the nation’s licenced civil nuclear sites and civil nuclear material in transit in England and Scotland.

[@wayneprice2737]

Uk swat team are called armed response officers.

[@johnp8131]

The regular Police, although most are unarmed "May" be armed as we have "Armed response teams" within each Constabulary. Tasers are a different matter? These are somewhat of an upgrade to the old "MOD Plods" that we had at military units in the UK when I was in the RAF, 30 years ago. It looks like pehaps, they have taken on the duties of certain military personnel due to cutbacks elsewhere? There used to be a joke that all MOD Police were good for, was opening and closing gates. That seems to have changed for the better?

[@williebauld1007]

The officers of the Civil Nuclear Constabulary are just as heavily armed if not more so, they are in charge of the security at the UK’s nuclear power stations and the policing within a 3km radius of the facilities, they also guard the fuel casks when they are moved around the country and internationally

[@NB_2390]

It's 5km ... & They also protect the gas installations, do Royalty Protection & provide Vessel Protection Officers on ferries, taser-only shifts on response with local Home Office constabulary's, and work on Joint Response Units with ambulance trusts ...

[@alwynemcintyre2184]

SWAT in America would be equivalent to the SOG in England, MDP works for the MOD similar to the DOD.

[@HeatherMyfanwyTylerGreey]

The big difference here is that a car registration plate can be scanned by a computer camera in motion and police computer data bases can tell a police officer in a car if a firearms crime has been committed by the owner of the vehicle or if they were known to carry firearms or had a terrorism connected conviction. If they are in the 'wrong area' It wont be P.C Plod who will stop him but these guys.

[@davephillips9035]

In Britain we have different units for different situations, we have specific firearms police unit that undergo specialist training, you occasionally see them walking the streets through town centres but as little as possible as most people view firearms as a threat, even when in the hands of a police officer

[@daffyduk77]

"... view as a threat even in the hands of a police officer" - rightly so, considering the De Menezes and other Keystone Kops-style UK police firearms activity. Just sheer recklessness and a feeling they can always stand up in court (ID shielded) and lie about perceiving there was a threat they had to er neutralise. Always much worse in the USA of course

[@janmargaret7972]

I live in a little village on the East Coast of England. Just up the road from my house there is a massive processing facility where the natural gas is pumped in from the North Sea and stored. There is also the National Grid storage. We have Ministry of Defence armed police with dogs driving around 24/7 because it is critical infrastructure. It is probably one of the best protected parts of the UK.

[@howardchambers9679]

Nice beaches at Bacton. Was there a couple of weeks ago.

[@johnritter6864]

In the UK the use of lethal force is very tightly controlled. There has to be a clear threat to life. Over here you can get shot at and if the bad guy throw the weapon away and runs off you cant shoot them in the back, for one example.

[@bobbending]

I worked at an MoD research establishment for some years. Had pretty good MoD clearance and two close relatives were MoD Police, yet went for a transfer interview at a nuc site and while behind the fence had a continuous armed escort. I was initially surprised but it's actually reassuring that they take nothing for granted and do not drop their guard.

[@freddiey1799]

These guys are chill. I work for a large cruise and container port, and they always stop for a chat and are overall friendly, kind people, until you fuck with them lmao

[@dresden5060]

I've noticed that too 😅 there was a raid at my froends block of flats, we were coming back from the shops for beers, got to the front of the building and noticed the armed officers, one of them shouted at us "put the bag on the ground and take 10 steps back!!) Which i did then he said thanks for the beers lads 😂 I said you prick you scared the shit outta me, and we all started laughing 😂

[@michaelbaynham5107]

I also have to point out that the MOD armed units are not deployed anywhere but on MOD property, or nuclear facilities.

[@alisonbailey8614]

Wrong, very wrong.

[@antonycharnock2993]

The regular police in the UK do have guns. Usually an armed response team is called but at big events and busy cities you will often see tactical armed police - I've seen them in my local shopping centre. Armed in the same way as the MDP.

[@alexdown3129]

All officers have a Glock 17 gen3 but I think in court it is discussed on why it has been used. They will get prosecuted for just drawing the gun

[@TheKira699]

The MOD Police also guard the guards at Royal establishments like Horseguards, Buckingham palace etc. There is a squad called the Armed Response Team of regular police, there is also Military Police. Then you get MI5 and MI6 who are more like James Bondy stuff. Secret Police per se does not exist.

[@skipper409]

These police have restricted powers when not on MOD property. A similar force manages civilian Nuclear infrastructure - power stations and transport of nuclear fuel…..UK exports nuclear fuel, so that police force also accompany the transporting ships abroad.

[@alisonbailey8614]

Nope. Exactly the same authority as a County force plus all are customs officers too!

[@NB_2390]

​@@alisonbailey8614no, OP is correct

[@batwench]

The Civil Nuclear Constabulary CNC are the ones who looks after nuclear power stations etc. The MoD coppers are a different story. Both are scary but lovely to work with.

[@dinger40]

MOD plods, at one base I was at (late 1970's) they just used to open the barrier and let us in, the whole mini bus in unison nodded at him, after a couple of days we were summoned to see the boss and told "not to nod at the mod plod". Some of the "regular" Police can be armed but not usual. Once saw an armed one in my local chippy picking up fish and chips, his partner was waiting in the car.

[@stevetheduck1425]

In the 1980s at least, there was a trick where the gate guard looked for a tiny tell-tale, that would be the first of a number of checks to notice if the visitors were who they claimed to be. This discovered a bomb attempt by the IRA, and the bomb was neutralised, the driver was followed and eventually the 'threat was neutralised'. It all begins with a raffle ticket...

[@stevemercer5769]

Yeah I encountered MOD plod back in the day while in the mob, with similar experience. Things have changed a lot since then, my son is in a highly specialised MDP unit that is very highly trained and works constantly alongside SF operators. Certainly wasn’t what I expected when he told me he was joining the MDP 16 years ago 😂

[@finosborne1665]

AS a submariner, you see a lot around HMNB Clyde

[@dinger40]

@@finosborne1665 Spent awhile up there

[@finosborne1665]

@@dinger40 Its a nice setting, though 24hr shifts every other day isnt fun

[@Donkeh245]

Its always such a suprise to see any police who are armed. Ive only seen them once on real life, and any other time was in the airport.

[@davidwebley6186]

The big difference I think in the UK as compared to the US is armed police are there to neutralise the threat and not necessarily kill the individual. By capturing the individual alive you have the possibility of gaining more intelligence. whether they are working alone or have any criminal or terrorist connections etc. etc. Our armed police are intelligent and make full use of that fact. Of course if the situation warrants it for the protection of others the police will take out a gunman or terrorist if they really have to but definitely not considered as the normal first option.

[@ianphillips9455]

The top armed police unit is CTSFO, and are seen very rarely. There are a number of units that are based in different areas of the country and also help other CTSFO units if the manpower is needed in a particular area or situation..

[@wayneprice2737]

Quite a few police in the UK are armed these days .

[@MayYourGodGoWithYou]

@marycarver1542 Same as here in Ireland. I knew someone who was in the armed response but his weapons were ALWAYS kept locked in a gun safe in the car unless they were needed. He never carried them openly in public [unless needed obviously] and the gardai on the streets are also unarmed. It feels great to be honest, safe as well.

[@scarba]

Because of the terrorists though not because normal people need this type of policing

[@cayde7207]

@marycarver1542 You get a few walking around on the streets, at least in London you do.

[@andirutherford2615]

Google ‘project servator’ We dont have secret police, but we do have armed police forces who work with civilian police, the Ministry Of Defence, or the ones I see everyday guarding my Workplace at a nuclear site the CNC Civil Nuclear Police, both will regularly train with civil police and even swop duties, most are all a good bunch, been on a few security courses with them

[@Dunbardoddy]

When I was a lad (about 60 years ago) my dad worked at ICI Nobel division and occasionally went in at the weekend to check on an ongoing experiment. One time he had to go in and I had to go with him and wait in the car in one of the car parks (13,000 people worked at ICI Nobel division). He was delayed and asked the Ministry of Defence police to go and check on me. They offered to look after me until he could get away. So I ended up on a Landrover security patrol with two fully armed Ministry of Defense police for a couple of hours going around the whole factory site. ICI Nobel Division site security was carried out by MoD police because it was a high explosive and missile propellant factory as well as making detonators and other things explosive for the MoD etc.

[@martinsear5470]

These are not exactly a secret mate.

[@polcedgstreams8660]

So, as I were saying, This IS NOT HOW WE CONDUCT TRAFFIC STOPS. WE conduct them with a LP (Local Policing) unit, who light it, that there is called a HARD STOP, where Armed police are involved to extract arrest by pointing firearms if they have such marker on ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition)

[@markprendergast1718]

I worked in Scotland on a military base doing some construction work these guys were every where tbh serious guys but friendly enough as long as you were meant to be there

[@wildnfree101]

10% of the UK police force are armed, they are all highly trained marksman. In the year 2020 they attended approximately 17,500 incidents, and their firearms where discharged on only 5 occasions, resulting in 5 deaths.

[@NB_2390]

It's nearer 4%

[@suzannewaslin3818]

If you see the videos about horse guards , which is army headquarters, you will see the armed police. Busker in the park has good videos about horse guards.

[@peckelhaze6934]

In the UK we have ARV's (Armed Response Vehicle) out on the public street. The ARV has the firearms. On military sites we have the MOD (Ministry Of Defence) police. These are the MOD Police. We also have British Transport Police.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

The BTP aren't armed, though.

[@ThatGreenGD1]

@@TestGearJunkie.BTP do have armed assets.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@ThatGreenGD1 Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. What I meant though was they aren't all routinely armed.

[@shep8851]

I had the application form for this in 1986 when I came out the British Army but something better/ better paid came along. No they weren't secret in fact I was recommended to try to join.

[@Felicity-fel]

The police in the US open carry a handgun (Glock most of the time) on a daliy basic. These coppers are a diffrent branch. The "reglular poilce" are unarmed peace keepers. The armed police are still peace keepers but they are armed to takedown any threat They are still not "elite" But they get special training.

[@stephenlee5929]

These are not Secret Police, they are in no way covert. Do most Brits know they exist, I think so. I think whenever an American does a compare US to UK police video, you will see in the comments that we have armed police and that in London (I expect they are elsewhere too) they are driving about ready to respond. OK these maybe a particular unit for defending Nuclear Bases, but I think they are still civilian police.

[@HrLBolle]

If I did not mishear they are members of the civilian police force under special employment by the "Verteidigungsministerium"

[@stevetheduck1425]

Have seen such armed police at railways stations, waiting for the next train, the one after the one I got off.

[@HrLBolle]

@@stevetheduck1425 years ago, when i was about 16 I thinks, we had a class trip to britishland (week long kind from Germany) first thing of curiosity I noticed at Gatwick Airport were Two police personal casually walking through the terminal with what I think to be H&K MP5 as their primary

[@M0UAW_IO83]

Heck, if you really want *armed* police then check out what the UK Nuclear Police (CNC) have access to, they have stuff all the way up to and including 30mm naval guns.

[@Bowleskov]

You seem to have a misperception about UK police, Every Police force has Armed Response Units which supplement Unarmed Police Officers. The MDP purely protect MOD assets within the UK so it is not common to come across them unless they are escorting sensitive materials.

[@markjeffers1341]

the MDP is just one police service, however all police services have armed response teams, we also have CTSFO counter terrorist specialist firearms officers who are trained with the SAS/SBS and use techniques like explosives to enter premises, amongst other skills. Each police service has armed response teams, each region has CTSF teams and they all could be deployed at a moments notice, the CTSF teams very often work with national crime squad british secret services etc. during the london bridge/borough market attack we deployed " blue thunder" the british special forces rapid response team by helicopter, the met police did a photoshoot years ago displaying the team and kit, leys just say if you remember from the 80's street hawk and airwolf you have a good idea with armed motorcycles with weapons systems to go and nutralize threats very quickly. One very important thing to note from the video as at borough attack once the armed police got there it was not 1 bullet and re evaluate, I think there was over 500 rounds used and the most in uk police history.

[@TheHouseofRose]

Jesus… I’m born and bred England and I’m 30. I’ve never seen a police officer with a gun. i’ve been pulled over and breathalised loads because i worked in a small village pub and they’d station a car at the top of the hill where you had to drive past. I got to know them quite well and they’d apologise when i was breathalised because id been doing it 2 years. If someone pulled me over like this i’d die inside. But yea this is what I personally think the Police in the USA would be like but worse. you said when they shoot, they shoot to “finish the job”.

[@tengudown5968]

you never been to an airport then? because guarantee youll see armed police

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@tengudown5968 You'll see them in Westminster around the Houses of Parliament as well. One time my other half and me were coming out of Westminster Underground station we saw one and stopped to chat with him for a few minutes. I think a lot of cops here like to pass the time with members of the public, as it shows them we're not all cop haters.

[@lindylou7853]

Magazines - she makes it sound like they’re carrying around editions of, “Hello!”

[@geoffbeattie3160]

These guys are ministry of defence and realistically just below MI5+6 national security. Rarely seen highly trained for terrorism etc!!

[@M4TTH3W-p9r]

Would you say, they're just above CTSFO, but below MI5/6?

[@cayde7207]

⁠@@M4TTH3W-p9r Well the CTSFO are trained by the British Special Forces and hold the highest authorised firearms officer level in the national police firearms training curriculum, the MDP are trained as authorised firearms officers to but not at the same degree. I read somewhere that the CTSFO will be bought up to if not already, the same standards as the SAS, this will lower the requirements of SAS being used domestically. Where does this place them in the pecking order 🤷‍♂️ I’d assume the ones trained by special forces to be higher, but I could be wrong.

[@KasparTaylor-jj5bj]

4:49 No, I think the American SWAT is like the English CTSFO.

[@susyward581]

They are not traffic cops

[@DWillis7]

Our 'SWAT' team are typically known as AFOs (authorised firearms officers). These are just regular armed police that usually travel around equipped similarly to what you saw in the video. They'll either have C8s, G36Cs, SIG MCXs and on rare occasions I've seen them with MP7s. They're not really at the level of SWAT, but the other team is like our version of FBI HRT and they're known as CTSFO (Counter Terrorism Specialist Firearm Officers) so a level above a regular SWAT team. They'll usually be seen in a grey uniform with balaclavas (like in your thumbnail). They're capable of explosive entry and typically use SIG MCX rifles but have used C8s on occasions.

[@kofcolrob]

Even the armed cops here in the UK are friendly in person (at least in Yorkshire). They came out to help when my friend had a motorbike crash as they were in the area and first aid trained and were top blokes and had a bit of a laugh with them and even got to ask them about their jobs and what aspects they enjoyed about it etc. Another funny situation was my mate stopped for a few hours near a critical oil facility a few years ago just chilling in his car and was looking at the stars and these guys (I'm assuming as armed police and not MPs) rocked up in their BMW X5s and started interrogating him on what the constellations were as they though he was up to something and didn't believe he'd just come for a drive and to relax.

[@michellealexander784]

We don’t have secret police officers. We have armed response officers and their weapons are only deployed before action. Armed officer are only called into to traffic stops when it is believed that the occupants have weapons. These police officers are linked to the Military and work with the Military police. Regular offices are unarmed or have tasers. In the UK we have very strict gun laws.

[@hikaru9624]

So strick that the armed officers have to get permission from County officials or whatever to cross over when in pursuit of a suspect if I recall right.

[@johnnyuk3365]

Unfortunately I have been stopped by U.K. police for minor offences , quite correctly.. This VLog is more or less ok for much more senior offences , in my case I have been stopped and at at all times I was obvious they were not armed and 😮😅😮just “ wanted to have a chat with me”

[@Britabroad877]

Not a SWAT team. Nor are they "secret". The Civil Nuclear Constabulary are responsible for security at all of the UKs nuclear power plants. Their area of responsibility extends beyond the perimeter fence of the power plant by several miles. They train and interact with the regular police. They are all armed and very highly trained.

[@NB_2390]

All true, though these officers are MDP 👍🏼

[@vyvienvp3413]

These guys are special forces, more army than police. Not our regular bobbies! Our police do not carry guns.

[@NB_2390]

Definitely not SF, just well-trained AFOs

[@petermason5386]

We don't have "secret police" we have dedicated "Arms response Units" in each force which differs from that MOD Police as seen in this program.

[@TukikoTroy]

They're hardly secret. These are Ministry of Defence police and you can find them all over the country. We have them in my hometown. You are responding to a clickbait title Ryan. Not interested.

[@ScottishCabbage]

The ones at the Clyde Base are actually lovely to lost tourists too. Yes, theyll shout at you for trying to do a u-turn in their gated area but once you explain, they're brand new and even offer advice on a good takeaway! :)

[@angelabushby1891]

MOD Police guard Horse Guard's Parade in London,you find them walking with the Foot Guards from the Barracks to Windsor Castle and back

[@hikaru9624]

I've not seen armed responses units on the road as of yet (which is a brilliant sign) but i know for a fact they're becoming a more and more common sight across the uk which is unfortunate. All in all I have nothing but respect for our forces. Thanks for trying to keep the UK safe.

[@malsm8892]

One of my life long friends is an Anglican Priest another was a MOD Police Officer the 2 sides of the state. There is a similar unit Nuclear Regulatory Police may be they're based at Nuclear sites and labs

[@hanktheblesseddeejay]

I lived on a MOD base when a child, and some people robbed a bank in our local town and thought they’d try to escape on foot through a forest next to the base, only for these guys to turn up 😂

[@finian2]

What you'll notice about any armed police officer in the UK is that they *never* use just small arms if they're stationed out in public or on regular patrol. They either have a big ass rifle, or nothing at all. This both makes it very clear what you're dealing with as a deterrent, and it makes the officer think before they act because they would need to actively ready their rifle, aim down the sights, and can't just whip it out in a blind panic.

[@dreadlindwyrm]

It might be intense to be driving with their gun like that, but these guys *are* intending to use their guns, since they wouldn't normally be called unless there was a reason to shoot things. This won't be *at all* a standard stop. :D And no, we don't usually arm the routine day to day officers. We have specialist firearms units, but the MDP are another stage further. They're civilian police dealing with threats to the national security, so they get *all* the guns. They're doing a specialist role, similar to SWAT, but more specific. SWAT are essentially our "routine" specialist firearms teams though. This lot are *specifically* extreme because they might be responding to someone trying to steal nuclear material, or attack a strategic target that would be a severe risk to the country. And as shown in the video, immediately they've neutralised the threat, they're now first responders giving first aid to the suspect and anyone else involved. And yeah... not so much secret as *highly specific* and *don't come into contact with the general public*.

[@SteveJohnSteele]

As far as I know (based mostly on TV and film) a "kill shot" must be authorised, unless in clear and immediate danger to self or danger to public. After ever discharge of a weapon there is a debrief. Non lethal is the preferred method.

[@davegoodwin1950]

I pulled up ouside where i lived yrs ago when an armed response unit were gearing up before raiding somewhere round the corner. Sas first time seeing coppers with automatic rifles

[@Naeron66]

The UK Police do carry firearms but only specially trained Firearms Officers do so. There are around 6,000 of these Officers out of a total of about 164,000 total Police Officers, so less than 4% of UK Police are allowed to carry firearms.

[@LARGE_COKE]

The regular police do have firearms they are just seperated into firearms units for firearms trained police officers, when a suspect(s) is known to be more dangerous than your average joe or armed they turn up and they are just as available as unarmed units of the police and will respond just as fast if not faster.

[@claxxfied]

The uk version of swat would be the armed police. And when the armed police need help they call the CTSFO (Counter terror Specialist firearms officers)

[@Gomorragh]

These are police specifically designated for sites of national defence and are not the TFU or tactical firearms unit, which is the equivalent of US Swat, most people think that the MIlitary police policed these sites, and thats a whole different kettle of fish right there.

[@jillwilliamson4825]

I live in the uk where they build the nuclear submarines we see this when they are transporting stuff from one site to another i can see the top of the dry Dock hall from my bedroom window where they are built.

[@johnmartin2464]

Yes, the regular UK police DO have firearms. Every civil police force in the UK has a firearms unit, they have specialist firearms training and back up the unarmed frontline copper. They do the same role as SWAT in the US, they are called out if firearms are used by criminals or to carry out search warrants that are too dangerous/risky for ordinarily police. This film was of coppers based at the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) near Reading, where they make the UKs nuclear detterent. The methodolgy is to fire single aimed shots, rather than a mag dump of 15 rounds.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

That's because every time a bullet is fired they have to fill in reams of paperwork and be investigated for the next 5 years.

[@Smartkid2587]

Im England, if a cop is armed, they have full on rifles and all that shit

[@pauldavison7105]

These are the MOD police, responsible for perimeter and outer security of british nuclear sites however breach that and you are met with a specialist unit of the Royal Marines. The MOD police do not just police nuclear sites, they can be found as garrison security in many areas of the UK. For example they protect the guards daily at horse guards in London. Then you have the Civil Nuclear Contabulary which are also armed and they provide security for non military nuclear sites such as power stations and transportation of radioactive waste on UK roads. Both only counter terrorist function is in protection of the locations they guard. The still picture on the front of this video is neither. CTSFO or counter terrorist specialist firearms officers who are part of several standard police forces around the UK and provide the main civil counter terrorist response to attacks on the UK and act with support from UK military special forces. They are one step up from a standard UK AFO or authorised firearms officer who patrol the streets everyday around the country manning the normal police firearms response such as met police trojan units. An example of the change in civil police arming , in the 90,s my county had 2 roaming firearms response vehicles to cover the whole area 24 hrs a day. Today the same county has the whole roads policing unit armed on a daily basis. The ammount of armed police officers in the UK is vastly underestimated by our citizens and foreigners alike.

[@alexanderhenriques3743]

The Ministry of Defence Police are not the only fully armed force. There is also the Civil Nuclear Constabulary who look after Nuclear Power Stations and other civil nuclear facilities. These forces (along with the British Transport Police) are called non Home Office forces and can operate anywhere in the UK. Ordinary police forces in England and Wales are termed Home Office forces and come under the authority of the Home Secretary . Ordinary police in Scotland and Northern Ireland come under their respective devolved governments.

[@gamervsgardening]

"laser sights on their hats" had me in stitches 🤣🤣🤣

[@johnp8131]

The ironic thing is, I didn't know how much their duties had changed since I was in the military and............I didn't know their HQ is where I finished my RAF career, and still drive past regularly to this day. I have to presume its stategically placed, due to the British and American bases close by and the proximity to the local constabularies training facilities?

[@BelligerentBurgers]

They DO live to tell the tale, these officers are amazingly trained.

[@Makeup_Sparrow]

So I live in the UK and deal with police a lot due to mental health and we have different stages of police. We have the ones who are just walk along the streets and deal with minor issues which are the neighborhood police. Then we have the normal police who deal with mental health and crimes who can get a licence to carry a razor. Then we have the normal armed police who carry pistols then it's the mod police and also military police

[@paulchartley]

The police in the UK are more armed than most people realise. I think that the big distinction is that police officers in the UK will usually not carry firearms on their person although they will have things like tazers. Although the regular police that patrol in vans or walk the beat do not carry firearms, the rapid response units who drive around in the big SUVs do, however they are secured in a gun safe in the vehicle unless needed. Police cars with small dayglow orange or gold star symbols or circles on them, usually in the top corners of the windscreen, the back window, and the rearmost side window have firearms on board and the police officers inside are trained firearms officers. The police vehicle seen from behind with its blue lights on at 1:28 has one of these stickers visible in the top right hand corner of it's back window. You will usually find these vehicles parked up in prominent places in Britain's city centres such as public squares, outside railway stations or near shopping centres so they are easily spotted by folks who know what they are but at the same time remain inconspicuous and completely unnoticed by people who don't.

[@Trooper_Sly]

This is the Ministry of Defence Police, a Civil Police Force funded and designed for the Ministry of Defence, Which are split into different Groups, (CNS) Civil Nuclear Constabulary, Maritime Enforcement, They serve as Guards to HM Naval Bases, Military Camps, Ammunition Stores, Navy Bases, RAF bases, and Nuclear Stores alongside their relevant Military Police, Navy Police, and Air Force Police counterparts, typically they can deploy from one place and can get to an urgent situation at another site within a few miles within 8 minutes, which we have utilized in my Royal Naval Reserve Unit, They are very highly trained and Can do a range of tasks, Like the escort of nuclear material, Escorting of warships and submarines, And Protection of VIPs and Defence Sites.

[@NB_2390]

Civil Nuclear Constabulary is a separate entity, and is larger than MDP

[@ianprince1698]

there is a KZbinr who regularly films horse guards' parade in London and often shows the MOD police on-site in case anyone thinks they are a soft target, the soldiers on duty have sabers sitting on their horses and can attract sizeable crowds

[@MartinSGill]

Also known as "Mod Plods" Ministry of Defence (plod is a slang for copper, the fuzz, cops :P). They also guard military bases. Bit of a necro comment... but the armed police in the UK (armed response) are trained to a similar level. Notice how the first question the officer was asked was "Is there any reason today why cannot carry a firearm"? It's that level of professionalism and integrity that makes UK armed police more like US SWAT or other specialist units (short of dedicated units like GSG9 etc (UK also has equivalents units), which are intended for a higher threat level, and not every-day policing).

[@uraclint]

There are units of the 'regular' police who patrol armed to the teeth. Started in the late seventies, when armed robbery of banks or armoured vans collecting/delivering cash was aregular occurrence in almost any city in Britain, The ARU.... Armed Response Units, who had their own Station houses or depots, would patrol with large resources of guns and ammo on the streets certainly of the larger cities in Britain. Their vehicles were identical with 'regular' Police vehicles, for obvious reasons. I used to live very close by onwe of these depots, in the Old Magistrates Court at Old Street in london, near Liverpool St. Rail Station. The terrorist situation in Northern Ireland with terrorists targeting high profile targets in London and other large cities, was another obvious use for these groups Their job was not any kind of detective work, or indeed any other kind of police work..... Just to be on hand with huge firepower very, very quickly.

[@frankdoyle9066]

The King visited my small town in North Yorkshire on Monday and we had police snipers on top of a medieval church in the town center.

[@reaperoflostsouls4323]

British armed police don't just work for the MOD they also work with the normal police forces. The MOD have their own police force called MP's, Even the train network has it's own police force BTP (British transport police). If something happens that the Armed police can't deal with the army gets a call and special forces (S.A.S) turn up it sort it. Unless it's at sea then the navy get called and (S.B.S) turn up.

[@whoanelly8342]

The reason they carry it between their legs, is because unlike American police who always carry a gun, uk armed police are called only when the situation may need armed support, so they know 100% they will have to use their gun, even if just by pointing it to intimidate.

[@jackevans302]

Some standard officers are armed, we have armed response units (ARU's), specialist firearms officers (SFO) and authorised armed officers (AFO). you can't become an armed officer straight away, i think you need 2 years minimum experience as a cosntable before you can apply. Training to be an armed response officer takes months. We also have CTSFOs (Counter Terrorism Specialist Firearms Officers) which are trained by the SAS

[@Charlotte-wx4jz]

My sisters friend has just become part of the special police force in the Navel town we grew up in. So not only does he do all this, he does a lot of it at sea.

[@rustyredbeard]

Hello Ryan, the mighty algorithm has chosen you for the digital demographic I am in and as such your upload history dominates my feed. I've just watched; today's upload on British Karens, a react to British police from 8 months ago, and now this one. So in about an hour I've gone back in time a year and I can't help but notice how tired you look, and the cot in the background. Jumping back to today's video and your office is now in an attic and you look fresh as a daisy. The videos were good but I really enjoyed seeing someone doing well, working hard, raising a family. Good luck and good health to you and yours. I'm glad the algorithm smiled on you, enjoy the bump.