America's Next Top Model FAILED This Girl

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Jessica Kobeissi

Jessica Kobeissi

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@Selene111dr
@Selene111dr 2 жыл бұрын
This guy basically just said "I'm proud of her because she threw away all her boundaries and did what I wanted her to do" what the hell is wrong with people
@randyluz2088
@randyluz2088 2 жыл бұрын
"You gotta love humanity" - this Yikes
@Nexibis
@Nexibis 2 жыл бұрын
This is it! They applauded the contestants for letting them violate their boundaries. It’s so gross
@ineedfriendspodcast3623
@ineedfriendspodcast3623 2 жыл бұрын
The producers of this show just love traumatized women smh
@Peace2Mateo
@Peace2Mateo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ineedfriendspodcast3623 Ken mok got off to this type of stuff
@xryxix
@xryxix 2 жыл бұрын
literally its extremely concerning how normalized this behavior is to have it televised. which ended up enticing a lot of people to join this unsafe trap of production...hear yall a lot cuz yeah
@RaineeRiecke
@RaineeRiecke 2 жыл бұрын
The fact they aired her backstory even when she blatantly stated not even her family knows is sick, this challenge triggered her so much that she felt she HAD to tell her story to "justify" (in her mind) why she was uncomfortable with the situation to mr Jay. And they freaking aired HER story to the WORLD, when she clearly wasn't ready, she was forced to be ready and it's sick!!!!!
@blauespony1013
@blauespony1013 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought, when I heard this. Why is that even on air? And with such a sneaky, shaky cam as if they would respect her backstory etc.
@8ONJO55
@8ONJO55 2 жыл бұрын
Ratings 🤑
@mielissa100ify
@mielissa100ify 2 жыл бұрын
They’re all aware that they’re being recorded and everything they choose to say on camera is at risk for being used
@RaineeRiecke
@RaineeRiecke 2 жыл бұрын
@@mielissa100ify even though she knew a camera could be involved, she was forced into the position of telling about her traumatic experience. She didn't go onto a MODELING show expecting she would have to expose her trama (that has no connection to modeling so why would she expect this situation) to the freaking world. Yes, she did say it on camera, however she was put in a situation basically equivalent to interrogating someone to spill their deepest darkest fear/trama which now triggers them to relive said events. Which she CLEARLY has not had any help to heal from, which can be seriously detrimental to her future healing.
@sarakjeldsen769
@sarakjeldsen769 2 жыл бұрын
That actually made me cry. She really trusted Mr. Jay to tell him something so personal.
@deez2569
@deez2569 2 жыл бұрын
Oh.My.God. I am a therapist and having that girl get close to a man with trauma in her past could have easily induced a PTSD episode. Perhaps even a full blown disorder stemming from this incident. Absolutely dangerous and ignorant.
@JBGuarino43
@JBGuarino43 2 жыл бұрын
As a therapist would that be a good job choice? Many ads with models have men and women together no?
@sonorasgirl
@sonorasgirl 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Mr. Jay’s doing tons of manipulation tactics and mixing truth with grooming type behaviors - “you’re so brave for this, but it’d be good to talk to someone” with “you can’t let this ruin your life”. Like, he’s DISTURBINGLY good at mixing validation and manipulation
@laurameier9825
@laurameier9825 2 жыл бұрын
@@JBGuarino43 Not a therapist here but I imagine that it's different in the real world because normally you know beforehand what the job includes and you can just walk away from a job or not even audition for these jobs.
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonorasgirl I went in for a consultation with a surgeon about a c-section because my midwife was worried that a natural birth might be too traumatic due to my own experiences with SA. The surgeon used the exact same sort of tactic as Mr Jay to try and get me to go through with a natural birth. My mother pretty much supported the surgeons behaviour and actually backed her up too. Both saying "it's decided you're having a natural birth". At that I went into a full on panic attack. Tbh I'm so grateful that other medical staff stepped in to replace the surgeon and keep my mum away while I spoke to someone new about my options. Suffice it to say I hadn't made up my mind until they both tried forcing a decision on me. I went for a planned c-section in the end and it was the best decision I ever made. So glad my midwife made the recommendation.
@deez2569
@deez2569 2 жыл бұрын
@@JBGuarino43 Yes, but I'd say that if you have significant trauma from an SA that you haven't dealt with yet being in this situation would be highly dangerous.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Jay can act all innocent as he wants in blaming Tyra and production. But as far as I’m concerned, he is equally to blame.
@gpgp1841
@gpgp1841 2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for years now!
@karlaf.64
@karlaf.64 2 жыл бұрын
10000000% he is fully responsible. He said the words. Regardless of who scripted his words, he said them and should be held responsible for the trauma and damage he cause the girls. I don’t buy his victim mentality 👎
@Mitsu2040
@Mitsu2040 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they didn't force him to smile as she was going through this! That was all him. He enjoyed every moment of it.
@djp8487
@djp8487 2 жыл бұрын
He totally is responsible. Spineless and uncaring.
@alyssalane3442
@alyssalane3442 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! I'm disgusted that he and his supporters or people who just want to hate Tyra act like he's innocent. They both disrespected these models and my generation because we watched this mess!
@heyyyzoo
@heyyyzoo 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who had been sexually assaulted, this is utterly disgusting. Imagine telling someone you arent comfortable at doing something because of a trauma yet that someone pushes you to do so. infuriating.
@ThePumpingiron27
@ThePumpingiron27 2 жыл бұрын
I know! It is disgusting that they made her just deal with it and still do the commercial.
@ren.teacher
@ren.teacher 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I would have walked away because I learned to advocate for myself but she was easy to manipulate and this is disgusting
@CarboneCat
@CarboneCat 2 жыл бұрын
It is horrific. I agree with you.
@THEMODELGENE
@THEMODELGENE 2 жыл бұрын
In the real modeling world, IF for some reason the model was unaware of there being this type of interaction with the male model BEFORE arriving, this is the point where they would call their agent to remove them from the situation. Poor girl.
@katychamley5324
@katychamley5324 2 жыл бұрын
Same here- to me that is abuse in itself. For me saying no wasn’t enough to stop my abuser and after saying no once in any similar situation my body shuts down because I can’t handle the fight. I feel so so sad and enraged for this poor girl
@Jenncysworld
@Jenncysworld 2 жыл бұрын
As a Model (and Actress) myself, who shot many commercials in the past, this is very frustrating to watch. NO MODEL is booked for a job, without having the proper skills. In this case for example, the Model would need to have a roller skating skill. When a special skill like that is required, my agents asks me beforehand, if I am able to skate, ride bike, etc.. whatever the skill is that is needed. I am asked BEFOREHAND. This show is so unrealistic (and abusive obviously).
@elise6689
@elise6689 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it's so weird how Jay, Tyrah and Nigel(who works in the damn industry) dont care about this when trying to find americas next top model?? They are manipulating people into being this perfect example of a human who has every skill you would ever need to do anything. Thats just impossible because nobody is that.
@dorothypersons79
@dorothypersons79 2 жыл бұрын
Would a model be asked to kiss or get into close contact with someone they don't know. Are they given the chance to at least meet them before shooting. It just seems too weird to me how they show that on the show. These poor girls.
@Jenncysworld
@Jenncysworld 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorothypersons79 There are shoots, where you are shooting together with a male model or actor and you have to get close yes. But again, that would be in the job description beforehand. So when you are applying to do the job, you are aware of it. With that being said, it DID happen to me one time that I was not informed beforehand, that I would be shooting with a male model and play a couple with him. It did throw me off at that time, thankfully the male model was very friendly and married anyway, so he was cautious as well.
@mariaenvoikertoa
@mariaenvoikertoa 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorothypersons79 From my experience usually even hugging or being close to another person is mentioned in a casting call, let alone kissing or further intimacy. I had one gig as an extra though where I had to dance with a guy pretty close, but we were still able to keep a respectable distance between us and didn't touch each other, just hovered hands close. Thanks to the camera angle it really looked like we were bumping and grinding though!
@teijaflink2226
@teijaflink2226 2 жыл бұрын
Right, like Ann was so close to bang her head, that could have ended really bad.
@ft.meganmccarthy8865
@ft.meganmccarthy8865 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would have been really cute to end their commercials on a group shot with the other girls having fun instead of having a random guy glommed onto them.
@91loveismyreligion
@91loveismyreligion 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing!!
@arisucheddar3097
@arisucheddar3097 2 жыл бұрын
Could've just been holding a puppy or something
@TonyTurner
@TonyTurner 2 жыл бұрын
Right!!! And all of them could've been holding up the "beauty water".
@rais14
@rais14 2 жыл бұрын
agreed. having a guy at the end giving the girls affection only cements the idea that girls/women need to seek external validation from boys/men.
@sarahwithstars
@sarahwithstars 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, this advert should only exist if they use roller derby girls! Real skaters having real fun!
@mockingjay458
@mockingjay458 2 жыл бұрын
Forcing Anne to skate when she clearly doesn’t know how is like giving a random person a guitar and then getting mad that they can’t play a tune bc it’s their first time holding a guitar
@visualbeauty3427
@visualbeauty3427 2 жыл бұрын
That's Ann without E.
@ariannasantina
@ariannasantina 2 жыл бұрын
not to mention dangerous for her to try to skate when she doesnt know how. she f ell so many times im sure she was very sore and in pain the next day.
@Shrimpyyyyyyyy
@Shrimpyyyyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ariannasantina so true - she could have broke her arm when she fell!!
@charisalkinburgh4655
@charisalkinburgh4655 2 жыл бұрын
not to even mention that skating is much harder for people who are tall because their center of gravity is further from the ground. my friend is like 6’3” and he broke his ankle in multiple places after a fall. that wasn’t even his first time skating, so for someone that tall being that it was her first time skating she did a great job but they should have done more to protect her because she could have gotten a serious career altering injury.
@ColFlustered
@ColFlustered 2 жыл бұрын
Right? Couldn't they have had one of the guys like help balance her if they were gonna make her do it anyway? Nvm I just got to the part where they finally did give her an escort.
@BoxOKittens
@BoxOKittens 2 жыл бұрын
Not so fun fact, I watched this episode (and the show itself) when I was a kid, and I had gone through a similar situation to the red-head girl. I remember hearing what Nigel said, and the girl eventually 'agreeing' with him, and it only enforced the thoughts I had in my brain at the time, which was that I HAD to date and kiss guys, even though I really really didn't want to. This show wasn't just horrible for the poor women who went through it, it also spread terrible messages to all of the people, especially little girls, who watched it and believed the toxic messages.
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to live through that, then have the show compound your trauma further. They should come out with an apology for this.
@morganshryock4847
@morganshryock4847 2 жыл бұрын
Same! I literally thought for so long that I was like obligated to be intimate with people even through I didn't want to, because me having trauma from something wasn't a good enough reason to say no. Thank god I went to therapy in college. It's so damaging, I still can't believe this was aired on TV. We definitely weren't the only ones damaged by this. I hope you are doing better now and have been able to work through your experiences in a healthy and helpful way
@Itri_Vega
@Itri_Vega 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people also misconstrue the idea of exposure therapy (so exposing yourself to a trigger to desensitize yourself) and think just heading straight into a triggering situation is going to make it all better. You can do that when you feel you are ready and have someone reliable by your side. And most importantly, it's in a controlled environment where you can stop and exit the situation at any given moment. If these factors are not present chances are the trauma gets worse. I hate that Jay presents himself as the shoulder to cry on when the power imbalance (due to him being a panel judge and her being a contestant) is so massive. He is in no way, shape or form qualified to make someone go through this.
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 2 жыл бұрын
@@Itri_Vega I 💯 agree with everything you've said. Also, bonus points for the epic profile picture.
@ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised
@ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised 2 жыл бұрын
I know that time has passed and you learned one key thing....DO NOT do ANYTHING you feel UNCOMFORTABLE doing!
@jacquelinekemp4897
@jacquelinekemp4897 2 жыл бұрын
"He had a way of calming me down and bringing me back" yeah it's called manipulation. I feel so bad for Kayla, she opened up thinking they'd respect her boundaries, and instead Jay told her to suck it up.
@jordane8526
@jordane8526 2 жыл бұрын
It was physically painful to watch. So many trauma survivors have had to deal with people doing this to them when they try to open up, it’s so hard to watch knowing she was opening up for the first time too
@jacquelinekemp4897
@jacquelinekemp4897 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordane8526 yes and this shitty behavior being modeled on TV for everyone to see like it's ok is horrible. The producers have zero empathy towards these women. I mean come on even calling grown women girls all the time is demeaning. It's little and big things all the time to treat them as inferior.
@carissashepard7072
@carissashepard7072 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing him use the words “you HAVE to deal with this” aka “YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BE IN THIS TRAUMA-INDUCING SITUATION” literally made my stomach turn.
@safariride172
@safariride172 2 жыл бұрын
Then tyra all like "you look really ethnic"...tyra wtf???
@TheEmerald97
@TheEmerald97 2 жыл бұрын
What makes me extra upset about this is that Mr Jay totally blows past her boundaries by having the male models so close to her the entire time. Like she was already revoking consent, he needed to stop pressuring her then. And then right after she opens up about her trauma he lets those models be super close to her and kiss her on her neck. It's bad enough he pushed her to continue, but then to not even accommodate her by sectioning off the men and letting her have space. Ugh disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if the experience at the shoot made her trauma worse.
@lady4191
@lady4191 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it did. There are dozens of women who have incurred trauma leading to suicidal tendencies just from being on this show.
@Itri_Vega
@Itri_Vega 2 жыл бұрын
The neck is such a sensitive spot, too. My skin crawled watching this.
@carissashepard7072
@carissashepard7072 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so disgusting. And he literally told her “you HAVE to do this” “you HAVE to deal with this” etc which is so, INCREDIBLY harmful. Awful. That poor girl.
@dawnchesbro4189
@dawnchesbro4189 2 жыл бұрын
@@carissashepard7072 those statement echo the SA she suffered when she was young. Not only is this shoot triggering, it's abuse itself by forcing someone to enter into a situation they didn't want to be in.
@carissashepard7072
@carissashepard7072 2 жыл бұрын
@@dawnchesbro4189 exactly. I agree 💔
@Evelina_412
@Evelina_412 2 жыл бұрын
Nigel's "You can do this!" when Anna was struggling with the rollerscates made me burst out laughing, like WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? NO SHE CAN'T?! Rollerscating is a skill, it requires muscle memory, you can't just will yourself into doing it well.
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
Like dropping someone who can't swim in the middle of the ocean... "You can do it!" No, I glub can't glub glub ☠
@julia-p1m6q
@julia-p1m6q 2 жыл бұрын
@@luna-p lmaoo this wins comment of the year
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
@@julia-p1m6q If I went on that show, they'd legit kill me
@sakuraryuji01
@sakuraryuji01 2 жыл бұрын
@@luna-p ironically in a later cycle they did expose a girl to her trauma of drowning by dumping a whole bunch of water on the models during a shoot. There was also the graveyard shoot.
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
@@sakuraryuji01 Who was the water one? I don't remember that one
@rafaelnadalismyboo
@rafaelnadalismyboo 2 жыл бұрын
This is SUCH a violation of the model's rights. She has the right to say 'NO' to things, this is a joke.
@llandriel
@llandriel 2 жыл бұрын
but she didn't... she could .. but decide otherwise... was her decision.
@kire132
@kire132 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly she could’ve said no grab her stuff and go home
@hollysealover
@hollysealover 2 жыл бұрын
While she “could” do that, I don’t think it’s as easy as you make it out to be. There’s a major power imbalance here. She’s on national television, under high-stakes contracts, and far from home. The show pays for her lodging and transportation. If she just chose to leave, she might not have a clear way home because she probably didn’t have to plan for that. Not only that, something she really wants to do, model, is on the line. It seems obvious that she could have left but that doesn’t make it practical.
@rozalina531
@rozalina531 2 жыл бұрын
@@hollysealover Agreed. Well said 💯🎯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@adamlambboy8332
@adamlambboy8332 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why they couldn’t modify the shoot for her. Bring in a female model and do the same thing (or change it so it’s more like friendship instead of romantic). The entire shoot was gross 😒
@Miumiu0404
@Miumiu0404 2 жыл бұрын
They should've just removed the kiss part. It literally does not add any value or benefit to the overall commercial aside from making the girls uncomfortable, which is exactly what the producers wanted. They're so sadistic.
@angelwings967
@angelwings967 2 жыл бұрын
Literally. The kiss is so painfully awkward! Just stick with the women. No one wants to see men, lol.
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
Or substituted in a female model
@bellou72
@bellou72 2 жыл бұрын
Jay was correct that she needed to start processing what happened to her, but by starting therapy, not diving in and kissing a dude!
@BoxOKittens
@BoxOKittens 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! He was literally forcing her into a situation that triggered flashbacks. That's not progress, that's re-traumatisation...
@llandriel
@llandriel 2 жыл бұрын
this could be part of the processing time... She could have left, but she but decided to stay and deal with it. You build character, you learn, you mature, you get over it and you don't let it harm you in whatever you do. The therapy doesn't build a crystal world for you...and sometimes you have to do it alone.
@sophiemoconnell
@sophiemoconnell 2 жыл бұрын
@@llandriel Dealing with the trauma of sexual assault is not about letting yourself mature or get over it. Would you say the same kind of thing to a war vet who is dealing with PTSD? How about someone who was abused by a parent? How about someone that is grieving their loved one's passing? Take the time to educate yourself on trauma before you do some real harm.
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
@@llandriel what do you mean about leaving?
@Mitsu2040
@Mitsu2040 2 жыл бұрын
@@llandriel No, she was forced to put up with it against her wishes. Her consent was taken away AGAIN! Re-living the trauma is not making it any better.
@Hill_Country_Violet
@Hill_Country_Violet 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Liz's laughter during the commercial filming was lighthearted. Seemed like that kind of nervous panicky laughter. During judging she went from the same laughing to crying real quick.
@julas3642
@julas3642 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, I was thinking the same… it was her defense mechanism from stress for sure
@djanime317
@djanime317 2 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely a nervous laugh, I have a nervous laugh and it stems from past trauma that I didn’t know how to cope with so it’s definitely a coping mechanism, they shouldn’t even fault her for it 😒🤦‍♂️
@mandycaz5562
@mandycaz5562 2 жыл бұрын
I think laughing when you make mistakes is better than crying every time like Erin did in cycle 13, and they had to keep retouching her makeup. I don't think it meant that Liz wasn't taking it seriously. Those a*holes. Ha
@brittcrawford9146
@brittcrawford9146 2 жыл бұрын
Liz was my college roommate. She is so beautiful and was so much fun !!
@melanietillman6308
@melanietillman6308 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I tend to laugh in really inappropriate situations because it's a nervous reaction.
@heidibaltom8138
@heidibaltom8138 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that she said "They scare me" is so upsetting to me. She is clearly traumatised. As someone who went through SA as an adult i can not even begin to imagine what it would be like as a child. So I comletely get where she is coming from. That would scare me too. That guy kissing her neck when she clearly didnt say yes and didnt want to is yet another instance where people dont take SA seriously. That could have been seriously triggering for her and sent her into a full on flash back. Even standing that close to him and feeling like she didnt have a choice could have done it. Im so pissed of with this. I have no other words except im so sorry for her and i seriously hope she doesnt have to go through anything like this again.
@grantmegan91
@grantmegan91 2 жыл бұрын
I was SA as a child and I unfortunately was pushed into a sexual relationship with an ex partner for years. And I would revert back to that age and say "I'm scared" or "I wanna go home" even if I was home...it's super embarrassing to say but her saying that..... I felt it. I know that phrase well.
@rucianapollard7098
@rucianapollard7098 2 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to you for experiencing SA, I can't even imagine. I will say, however, I don't blame the male model because I'm sure he didn't know her background, I think he was trying to help her out.
@christinastephens7804
@christinastephens7804 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I experienced SA as an adult and this whole episode is so sickening
@devontamosley4487
@devontamosley4487 2 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of Keenyah from Cycle 4 who was being sexually harassed by the African male model, Bertini; yet she was ridiculed by Mr. Jay the judges for speaking up, making it seemed like it was her fault and she was being a diva which really disgust me. And this with them forcing Kayla to relive her trauma to kiss a guy after confiding with Mr. Jay about her trauma really disgust me even more.
@Luvandrockettes
@Luvandrockettes 2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that i can remember at least 3 more incidents involved with men on this show. It’s worrying and disgusting
@Itri_Vega
@Itri_Vega 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Adrienne from Cycle 1. CSA survivor, assaulted on camera in Paris. Vile.
@mesocylon
@mesocylon 2 жыл бұрын
So in front of the whole world she discloses being SA'd as a child, AND THEY FORCE HER TO KISS A MAN FOR A COMMERCIAL. I'm mad as hell rn, as a fellow survivor and as a human being. And the way Jay is smiling and talking about her flashbacks as though they're an every-day nuisance, like... I'm barely containing my rage.
@natalieh6269
@natalieh6269 2 жыл бұрын
What really gets me is that, depending on her age/state it occured, she may still be within the statute of limitations in regards to prosecuting the a.hole. But yes, let's victimize her further and torpedo her credibility in court rather than CALL THE POLICE OR A THERAPIST. My god, what strange hell do we live in?
@sunshinem.7741
@sunshinem.7741 2 жыл бұрын
"Check your emotions at the door" does not apply to trauma like this. It was DISGUSTING for them to make her do that part of the shoot under the veil of "we care and you need to work through this." Except "work through it" literally means to face direct triggers in order to not get kicked. I'm astounded that they wanted a single take commercial in the first place. You know a commercial like that would have some cuts to create a faster pace
@Itri_Vega
@Itri_Vega 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Most people who haven't been to therapy don't even know what specifically triggers them. Smells, being touched at all or a certain way, the way certain men walk, talk or make eye contact, sounds like the pitch of someone's voice. So how is she supposed to leave her feelings at the door when they are conjured up by something that she can't even give a name to?? Bizarre.
@lunacouer
@lunacouer 2 жыл бұрын
Kayla was manipulated and coerced at age 11, into a devastating situation she had no control over. Kayla tells this to Mr. Jay, and he manipulated and coerced her into repeating it. She says no, I don't want to do this, but the implicit threat is "If you don't let this man be intimate with you, you're gonna lose this whole opportunity." Sound familiar? Saying no and there's an implicit (or direct) threat if you don't? He used her vulnerability to repeat the same framework of behavior that she went through as a child. This is DISGUSTING. He didn't just retraumatize her - he flat-out gave her new trauma. And while it's important to point out what Tyra, Nigel, and Mr. Jay all did, there's a whole team of producers that need to go to hell for how they ran this show.
@Itri_Vega
@Itri_Vega 2 жыл бұрын
And the worst thing is that this isn't even the first time they were callous about SA. It happened to Adrienne in Cycle 1 during the Go See challenge in Paris and they just filmed it. She is a survivor of severe SA during her childhood in combination with a kidnapping and yet they let this happen. And then, in the same season, they had the models spent the evening with creepy men to make connections. It felt 100% like escort training, not modeling, and like an attempt to normalise men taking advantage of women for job contracts.
@bottombagfrenchfry7127
@bottombagfrenchfry7127 2 жыл бұрын
@@Itri_Vega i believe in that same season(my mistake it’s actually season 2) they made the girls spend time with male models knowing that a girl had a bf and was having some trouble with him already. In the end she ended cheating on him with the male model and they filmed the situation, i think she was the strongest model in the group too so i feel like they wanted to sabo. her.
@its-MK...
@its-MK... 2 жыл бұрын
He 100% used the power imbalance to manipulate her behavior and invalidate her emotions.
@christinekillen3852
@christinekillen3852 2 жыл бұрын
@@bottombagfrenchfry7127 to me that's a bit different. Shandi had the choice to get in the hot tub with the guy. They just had the guys over. It was up to Shandi to deal with herself and her relationship.
@bottombagfrenchfry7127
@bottombagfrenchfry7127 2 жыл бұрын
@@christinekillen3852 They knew her relationship was unstable with her bf and they decided to bring in male models and make them have dinner together. It’s still her fault but they definitely instigated the situation since it was the main drama prior to her cheating.
@sarah-s9y8b
@sarah-s9y8b 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how they consistently equated not being able to skate with fear. I mean, no, they just can't skate, so they're falling, getting hurt and embarrassed. So let them do a different physical activity. My gosh. This is like requiring someone to ski for a commercial. No. In the real world, models/actors know that prior to the audition, and they bring the skill with them. And there are just no words for the SA situation. She overcame her fear, but that's one she shouldn't have had to overcome like that.
@sluttymctits4496
@sluttymctits4496 2 жыл бұрын
100%. The real modeling world would only request, hire, and use models who have the necessary skills to do the shoot. An agency wouldn't send a model to do a job she can't do. They'd never bring in a model to walk on stilts or do aerial acrobatics/line work if they had no experience doing it. It's dangerous and a total liability, if nothing else. But as we all know, this show thrived on drama and fear, so they just wouldn't (and frankly, for the sake of the show, couldn't) allow any model to say "No, I'm not/I can't do this."
@cosmicreef5858
@cosmicreef5858 Жыл бұрын
She was forced to over come her fear and for the wrong reasons! She do NOT owe them ANYTHING! If she do not want to do something it is HER life and HER body SHE HAVE THE LAST WORD IN IT
@pollypocket2282
@pollypocket2282 2 жыл бұрын
This series should now be called “Jessica Roasts ATNM for 30 minutes.” I’m here for it. And seriously, I’m shocked that that poor girl didn’t sue the show for unsafe working environments… well, that’s every episode, but definitely for emotional damage…wait, that is every show and model too. 🤦‍♀️
@misanthropexoxo9618
@misanthropexoxo9618 2 жыл бұрын
“ATNM”…americas top next model? no.., it’s ANTM…goof.
@taylardotson8100
@taylardotson8100 Жыл бұрын
​@@misanthropexoxo9618 We know what she meant it's not that serious
@misanthropexoxo9618
@misanthropexoxo9618 Жыл бұрын
@@taylardotson8100 Yeah it’s not that serious then why are you so pressed? Go away.
@LaurennM360
@LaurennM360 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m really proud of her for confiding in me and allowing me to capitalize off her vulnerability by forcing her into something that makes her extremely uncomfortable. She really gave up her boundaries today and that’s what we’re looking for in a model.”
@cosmicreef5858
@cosmicreef5858 Жыл бұрын
This is psychotic
@MarqZePancakeNinja
@MarqZePancakeNinja 2 жыл бұрын
That conversation between Kayla and Mr. Jay should never made it to TV. They could have easily changed the shoot for her instead of ignoring her trauma and calling it "bad memories". I can't believe they put her through that for a "commercial". 16:55 And the "commercial" isn't even named after the product! It's "kissing commercial". This is incredibly upsetting as someone who's also gone through SA but had years of therapy to address, process, and manage the symptoms. From how it sounds, she hasn't been able to do that and she can't even reach out to her support network after this "commercial" because of how this show works! Disgusting.
@amydarling9715
@amydarling9715 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@clarrie93
@clarrie93 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, they probably did the shoot BECAUSE they know she's uncomfortable with kissing and/or because she's gay.. it's drama
@Itri_Vega
@Itri_Vega 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing that the models usually had a "no talking unless the cameras were rolling" policy means that she also had no way of venting with other competitors. I can't even begin to process all the repressed emotions. I hope she at least got to have a long shower after this.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 2 жыл бұрын
They should have changed the shoot for ANY of the models that didn't want to kiss a stranger. Your consent (and lack thereof) is equally valid, whether it's been disrespected before or not. The modelling industry (among many other hollywood/fame/popularity industries) really LOVE forcing women to be intimate with men, and it's a problem. They play it off as "well it's just part of the job!" No sir, if she doesn't consent, it's just assauIt.
@Kat-nq5jw
@Kat-nq5jw 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to propose a better concept for this dumb commercial: First, lose the roller skates, just have them in sneakers. Then instead of ending with a kiss, have all the other models meet up with the person narrating at the end, and all cheers with the water. Tada, a commercial that won’t trigger anyone or make people injure themselves.
@PinkShelly216
@PinkShelly216 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who rollerskates everyday, it was irresponsible to put the girls on skates without properly teaching them to skate and safely fall. One of the girls could've been seriously injured.
@THEMODELGENE
@THEMODELGENE 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been so easy for one of them to fall and have a meniscus injury, broken collar bone from stopping their fall, etc. Not cool.
@Daniecodie
@Daniecodie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! I fell two weeks ago going down a hill and landed on my tailbone so hard. It STILL hurts to sit. I was so angry watching that!
@Unikkorns_
@Unikkorns_ 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Plus, why would you film a commercial of a girl skating who can't skate. It makes no sense. Nobody wants to see someone skating awkwardly.
@marymac3572
@marymac3572 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of safety equipment on these girls is unacceptable. A fall in a skating rink can do serious damage, let alone falling on concrete outside.
@gigiarmany
@gigiarmany 2 жыл бұрын
100% true
@adamlambboy8332
@adamlambboy8332 2 жыл бұрын
At least give the models some kneepads. Bright fun kneepads could’ve been so cute for this shoot.
@marymac3572
@marymac3572 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamlambboy8332 absolutely! Make safety gear look cute, set a good example, possibly reduce insurance costs.
@ultimatefirecracker1486
@ultimatefirecracker1486 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend recently went skating and fell hard on concrete and ended up cutting her hand open and losing one nail 😬
@marymac3572
@marymac3572 2 жыл бұрын
@@ultimatefirecracker1486 my ex-husband fell off a skateboard a few years ago and ended up with a pretty severe concussion. I've seen some gnarly rollerskating injuries as well. I hope your friend had a fast recovery.
@xryxix
@xryxix 2 жыл бұрын
its seriously sick how the industry ramps up and plays off peoples trauma. people shouldn't be forced to do things they dont wanna do. i hate how they hold winning/prizes over peoples heads and act like theyre helping people by traumatizing em even further. i hate how normalized their vindictive practices are
@xryxix
@xryxix 2 жыл бұрын
like dang the amount of times they put people in danger for concepts they dont even like
@redluigi814
@redluigi814 2 жыл бұрын
@@xryxix not sure about the industry as a whole. This just seems like ANTM exploiting prospective models for the sake of television
@xryxix
@xryxix 2 жыл бұрын
its definitly not just antm. its hyped up for views and nasty ofc but theres so many creeps in hollywood nd the modeling industry that get enabled bc of the money and power they have over peoples careers it's definitely a bigger problem than this and the fact that this behavior has been normalized to such a degree that people would happily make profit off of psychological and physical manipulation for tv says a lot i feel.
@THEMODELGENE
@THEMODELGENE 2 жыл бұрын
The pressure they were putting on her was more about the show than the modeling industry. As a model agent, I get in the notes of a job option if there is a concept that involves models portraying any type of relationship and if the model isn't comfortable with it, there is no pressure for them to agree.
@rozalina531
@rozalina531 2 жыл бұрын
@@THEMODELGENE This is how it should be. Basic human rights as with any job.
@tansieten875
@tansieten875 2 жыл бұрын
Ann’s height and thinness makes it physically harder for her to skate than most people. The judges act like it’s all in her head. These judges would probably tell a person with a disability that it’s all in their mind and that if they just push through they can do it
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
Do You remember Nyle?
@carissashepard7072
@carissashepard7072 2 жыл бұрын
I was so terrified that poor baby was about to crack her head open 😩 she could’ve been seriously hurt and they were trying to make it an “it’s all in your head” thing. 😤
@nomousecat
@nomousecat 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClaudetteVioletta Or the blind girl
@Jellyflop
@Jellyflop 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from the psychological torture of retraumatizing someone, the roller skating is so stupid and dangerous. The fact that these women aren’t wearing helmets and don’t have experience skating, one of the girls could’ve easily hit their head and gotten a lethal brain bleed. People underestimate how hard you can fall on those things…
@dheu
@dheu 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly. I am an ice skater and one of the most dangerous things that can happen is falling backwards because you can easily crack your head open or cause serious injury to your head. I fell backwards like that when I was first learning and hit my head, but thankfully I was wearing a helmet. But it is so easy to do when first learning how to balance on blades/little wheels. And these girls were skating on concrete with no experience at all! They got very lucky she fell the way she did and didn’t hit her head on something.
@NoxCattus
@NoxCattus 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! There was a really tragic story-in Spokane, I think-just within past few years of a woman that was supposedly a good skater falling and dying from her injuries while ice skating. It's really sad how people just take it for granted that "only other people fall" so they skip their safety gear....
@Nick-kf3io
@Nick-kf3io 2 жыл бұрын
“If I wanna be ugly, let me be ugly”. My life motto
@Jalil-wx7rh
@Jalil-wx7rh 2 жыл бұрын
These folks really think doing EVERYTHING means that you're a "top model". NO! I for sure know Tyra or Naomi or Giselle never took on anything that was not comfortable for them to do. EVER. That concept is just so unreal, and they can't tell me otherwise.
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
this
@gerardwfreak
@gerardwfreak 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that if a model had come to Naomi or one of the judges in About Face (kind of like ANTM but better and actually about modeling), they would've respected the model without question and not make them this.
@uwuseokie4123
@uwuseokie4123 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly wouldn't top models be actively voicing their opinions for the best type of outcome for shoots, catwalks and modelling??? This show just want mannequins not even models
@mielissa100ify
@mielissa100ify 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you assume that? Especially for Naomi and Tyra who started back when models and models who black barely had voices or representation?
@Jalil-wx7rh
@Jalil-wx7rh 2 жыл бұрын
@@mielissa100ify We're not talking about having a voice. We're talking about not being forced to take a job. If you didn't wanna do it, you don't do it. And both Tyra and Naomi talked a good game about not taking certain castings they didn't wanna do. They didn't do everything that was offered to them.
@kyleahauser2921
@kyleahauser2921 2 жыл бұрын
The whole situation with Kayla broke my heart. No one should have to go through that. She likely has PTSD from her experience and ANTM really messed up. Also I love roller skating. It’s a huge part of my life. The concept would have been so cool but skating is not easy if you aren’t used to it. The girls should have had protection (I still wear my pads all the time, no shame) and knew what they were getting into. Serious injuries can happen on skates. ANTM dropped the ball on so many levels….sad.
@LaynaRobin
@LaynaRobin 2 жыл бұрын
Pushing a sexual assault victim, risking the models health by making them fall with no protections on rollerblade, worst video production ever (a 5yo could do better with a phone). Disgusting.
@jennabrazel7860
@jennabrazel7860 2 жыл бұрын
if Americas next top model was a boyfriend they would be arrested for emotional and abusive control in the UK. That was shocking.
@appleaj7381
@appleaj7381 2 жыл бұрын
It is so stupid how this show is not at least looked into or anything for everything that they have done, body shaming, sexual assault, no consent to do some shoots like isn't that illegal??How is this show even allowed on tv
@visualbeauty3427
@visualbeauty3427 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprise that fashion industry always do that in general, See.
@TheLovesnowangel
@TheLovesnowangel 2 жыл бұрын
The early 2000's and 2010's were very insensitive times. We still live in those times but it's less tolerated
@carissashepard7072
@carissashepard7072 2 жыл бұрын
Because, unfortunately, they signed contracts 😔
@UnBealievable206
@UnBealievable206 2 жыл бұрын
The way they laughed at her when Kyla’s “commercial” was playing was crazy! She was obviously uncomfortable during the shoot!
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
They laugh at the models but the models can't laugh at themselves. This was purely about cruelty and dominance for entertainment.
@alicestewert8552
@alicestewert8552 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised they put Kayla through this and had so many male models on this season. The producers have done funeral photo shoots with contestants who have lost someone, they do shoots on high places specifically to scare the models who are scared of heights. It can’t be just a “coincidence “. I hope Kayla was able to heal from this
@cosmicreef5858
@cosmicreef5858 Жыл бұрын
They are psychopaths and needs to be in jail They literally torture others. Sick bastards
@faithstanley2263
@faithstanley2263 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Nigel was big mad over the one girl who couldn't remember her lines and would laugh about it. But had no problem wasting time with Ann who clearly couldn't skate.
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
And then laughing at her while watching her commercial. They're all hypocrites. Anything to exert dominance and put the girls down
@paws2reflect
@paws2reflect 2 жыл бұрын
And it was nervous laughter.
@jamietucker4568
@jamietucker4568 2 жыл бұрын
As a product of sexual assault I have a lot of issues with this. I'm 47, and only just started therapy. I've finally told my family. This is a very difficult situation, and I feel for this girl. This took a huge amount of courage. They should have removed her from this situation, and got her into therapy right away. They could have invited her back for another season.
@alybearrrful
@alybearrrful 2 жыл бұрын
“I don’t appreciate you making a mockery of our mockery, because we did it first” I’m dead laughing, but the best part about it is that i can actually picture Tyra saying that exact thing, minus the sarcasm 😂
@jordane8526
@jordane8526 2 жыл бұрын
This ANTP clip is the best illustration of people being massively/willfully? ignorant of trauma and how it’s _not_ “just a painful memory” The way her voice cracked when the male model was in her space broke my heart
@gettothechorus
@gettothechorus 2 жыл бұрын
"PUT THE GIRL IN SOME CROCS!" I hope this isn't your last video, Jess - you are the voice of reason and our main source of ANTM justice.
@kaitlynr.9555
@kaitlynr.9555 2 жыл бұрын
All of the other comments have called out more important issues with this episode, but just so you know… 0:37 “H to T” is Trya’s quick way of saying “head to toe”-as in the contestants should always model “head to toe”. It’s not a real drink. It’s a fake one based on Tyra’s brand.
@ms.marvelous8156
@ms.marvelous8156 2 жыл бұрын
The commercial concept is pretty dumb. Like the kiss didn’t add anything to the commercial and also they could’ve replaced the guy with a girl and that could change the concept to girlfriends or best friends hanging out together.
@tigremalabarista3461
@tigremalabarista3461 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately at the time television was still uncomfortable showing LGBTQIA+ Couples so they’d not gone that route. That said this was so wrong to Kayla.
@elliepapadimas944
@elliepapadimas944 2 жыл бұрын
If they insisted on having the guy instead of having her hug him at the end with the kiss it could be the guy approaching her, with the girl stopping him and taking a sip of the water instead. Like she don't need a guy if she has her water.
@meinenklinke
@meinenklinke 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t they offer her the option of kissing a girl? If they really wanted to see her act out this concept, ask the other models if they’d volunteer to be the other model in the shoot? That seems like a reasonable modification to still allow her to complete their concept and show her performance.
@sluttymctits4496
@sluttymctits4496 2 жыл бұрын
Because think of when this was originally filmed and aired. Even though attitudes were slowly changing, that kind of thing would never fly on regular, national tv. You think Karens are bad now? Add Karens, Darrens/Kens, old people, religious conservatives, "think of the children" PTA moms, etc. all together and they all would complain and get the show removed. Things aren't the same in 2010 as they are now.
@JessTalkingBooks
@JessTalkingBooks 2 жыл бұрын
@@sluttymctits4496 Yes and no. There was a visual increase of lesbian and gay relationships already getting positive press. To name a few shows: Queer as Folk, The L Word, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, Will and Grace, All My Children (Bianca and Lena, specifically) all aired in the 2000s, at the same time this was airing. The Karens existed but those shows were on a variety of networks and time slots. So it wasn't quite as sheltered media as say the 80s. (Even then Dynasty was breaking those barriers at the time.) And that doesn't count all the misogynistic queerbaiting. Not a great trope but one the ANTM production could have leaned in to to get by sponsors and viewers. Not to mention the show had already featured Ebony in Cycle 1. So there were ways to circumvent this trauma. They purposely chose not to.
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
@@sluttymctits4496 That was not the problem. They were already spotlighting her as a lesbian and making a point to say there's nothing wrong with it. They couldn't have claimed that was going too far. It was an easy solution. Plus, they did it in another photo shoot. They were really just exploiting these girls' humanity for entertainment.
@carissashepard7072
@carissashepard7072 2 жыл бұрын
The kiss honestly did not add a single thing to the commercial. Why would the girls not, oh idk, TAKE A DRINK OF THE WATER TO END THE COMMERCIAL ABOUT WATER 😂 The skates also did not add a single thing. You can’t even see them in the commercial 🤦🏻‍♀️🙄
@Scarleto
@Scarleto 2 жыл бұрын
@@JessTalkingBooks IDK if I fully agree with that. LGBTQ+ representation has been getting positive press since the Hayes Code broke in one form or another on North American TV - that doesn't mean 'society' or even the shows themselves are going to be decent about it. That goes double for TV geared toward younger audiences which, lbr, ANTM was definitely geared toward a young to teenage girl demographic. They even put out dolls to compete with Barbie. North American LGBTQ+ 'positive press' specifically that's for kids is *very* recent. Things have changed for the better recently around that, pointing that out as a fault of the era isn't inaccurate.
@justatg
@justatg 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that they kept that scene in and aired it even after she said her own MOTHER didn't know and that mr. jay was essentially the first person she had ever told... that's sick and she definitely didn't deserve to have such a personal experience aired to millions of people like that. this was her first time saying it out loud to ANYONE, and they wanted to get over it and move on within that same hour just for a 30 second commercial??...
@marsincharge
@marsincharge 2 жыл бұрын
The fact she confided in Mr Jay and not only they had cameras on her during her private talk, they STILL made her do this has me livid 😤 to just disregard something so serious for the sake of a tv show is absolutely disgusting. ANTM is infuriatingly wrong for this and many many many other episodes.
@inbach
@inbach 2 жыл бұрын
"You just have to love humanity" "Gee, thanks. My trauma is cured know" (I really wonder now whether Kayla knew her conversation was being shot and aired for everyone to see. I doubt she was asked for consent for showing it on the show)
@inbach
@inbach 2 жыл бұрын
Also, if I'm not mistaking, Esther was an Jewish orthodox competitor (Haven't seen this season for a while, so I'm not sure) and expressed over the filming of the show that she's uncomfortable around guys. It's like you said many times reviewing this show: If a contestant tells of an insecurity or phobia, you bet they will have to confront it at a shooting. When it's fear of heights or animals, I think it's sort of fair game (I mean, it is nasty, but I guess it's part of the format). But dealing with personal trauma (while having to roller skate backwards) is so messed up. Kayla, Ann and Esther didn't seem "uncomfortable", they seem traumatized and just wishing it will be over.
@DS-us1vi
@DS-us1vi 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the assault was another matter which producers decided was a good storyline as something about it doesn't seem authentic - not the truthfulness of her memory of her assault, clearly that is something that happened to her, but it feels like it doesn't make sense that they would actually force someone to do this knowing the legal ramifications. She's clearly smart enough to know it's wrong to force her and I don't think that many people would be able to deny what happened if she got kicked off because of it - its all recorded. It just seems to me that she must have disclosed during psych eval before entering the show and it was used in order to create drama. I feel she wouldn't be genuinely forced to perform if she would be full on getting PTSD triggers - the feeling of hopelessness and terror is so vidid I really am disappointed with this entire episode as a result of it. Please tell women's stories on their own terms not when it causes dramatic storylines
@mica4977
@mica4977 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible she was told and shown the clip in order to record the interview shots on 5:09 however whether she was asked or even had the option to deny it being aired would be a different story. Even tho this is highly personal I imagine they signed the right to be filmed on set at all hours and gave ownership for the producers to use at their own digression. As for DS' comment. I trust her when she said she hadn't told anyone this secret yet (including the production/recruiting team). Tho do agree AMTM is known to lash on to the model's weakness/faults in order to exploit them.
@DS-us1vi
@DS-us1vi 2 жыл бұрын
@@mica4977 hey Mica I think maybe she it didn't click for her that she did it during her psych assessment. But either way even if she didn't disclose it to them in any way I don't mean any negative or think anything negative about her I just feel the situation is very fishy. I just wanted to say this so everyone is aware that I am not in any way being critical of the model so please don't misinterpret what I am saying. I agree though regarding contractual obligations and fishiness though. I really think that storylines needing to be presented in a way that represents actual events correctly and importantly don't miss out any critical moments that may distort actual events as reality TV can be very messed up.
@mica4977
@mica4977 2 жыл бұрын
@@DS-us1vi I do feel you were being objective rather than discrediting anyone, don't worry. I hadn't thought about them testing their mental health prior to recruiting them tho thinking about it & the awful mental and physical things the contestants get put through it would make sense to ensure they're not mentally unstable prior to starting. To avoid liabilities & hopefully for the sake of the person's safety.
@onewingedangel5826
@onewingedangel5826 2 жыл бұрын
This show seems to like exploiting and humiliating models just for fun (and to fill their own pockets of course). Consistently pushing people’s boundaries and consent, doing challenges and shoots that endangered the models for photos the models can’t even use in real life and then teaching the models it’s normal for them to be treated that way! It’s so sad.
@andrebeaupre7945
@andrebeaupre7945 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they filmed her confession to Jay about SA is sooo messed up. The producers on this show have no soul.
@ebonymarieblack1530
@ebonymarieblack1530 2 жыл бұрын
Jess from what I remember from the season I am pretty sure that concept was based off a fake product. The H2T water is a play off Tyra's dumbass phrase "model ht2...head 2 toe". While the whole situation is disgusting overall what really makes me upset is that this shoot isnt even for an actual client. It's just some bs for Tyra's ego and drama for television. The fact that this girl was traumatized on national television and forced to talk about her sexual assault in front of a camera when her own family didn't even know is BEYOND atrocious for ANTM. I can guarantee that had she not have kissed him, she would have had to talk about her trauma in front of all the judges, all the girls, and more cameras at panel. Then instead of being an empathetic human being and realizing that asking her to participate in that kiss was inappropriate, Tyra would've gone on to give one of her modeling life lessons, like "Well this one time I was doing this huge photo shoot on the reefs in Australia and a fish bit me. It was horrible and it made me hate fish. But in the modeling world you have you do what the client wants. I went on to model in the Versace diving collection in Paris Fashion week that next month where I wore a snorkel made into heels and a diving suit while walking a runway made of live tuna. I modeled through my trauma of fish because THAT is what it takes to be a TOP MODEL!"
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
You are totally spot on and made me snort at "a fish bit me." I'm screenshotting this for when I'm sad.
@ebonymarieblack1530
@ebonymarieblack1530 2 жыл бұрын
@@luna-p hahaha 🤣🤣
@NoxCattus
@NoxCattus 2 жыл бұрын
@@luna-p same here. It's scary how I can literally picture her saying that. UGH
@luna-p
@luna-p 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoxCattus Totally. Ebony hit the nail on the head. Tyra's nuts.
@Nefertishadid
@Nefertishadid 10 ай бұрын
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@Thebookrat
@Thebookrat 2 жыл бұрын
“We won’t let you have the last mockery” is my favorite thing you’ve ever said. 😂
@stuffwithsoph8264
@stuffwithsoph8264 2 жыл бұрын
Unironically Tyra, Mr.Jay and Nigel need to be cancelled, this show is actually DISGUSTING
@bleu8678
@bleu8678 2 жыл бұрын
I know! I can't believe I watched almost this entire series when I was younger.
@ThePumpingiron27
@ThePumpingiron27 2 жыл бұрын
@@bleu8678 same! I'm ashamed I supported this show as a teen. I even wanted to be in the petite season. Even though none of the models (besides Sundai) was actually petite. 5'5 and below is petite. Sundai was 5'4 and the rest were 5'6 or 5'7. Tyra has no idea what petite is.
@michaelcurtis4627
@michaelcurtis4627 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePumpingiron27 remember most of us were YOUNG watching this show. We trusted these people to show us how the modeling world works. The saddest part is Tyra and the crew could have changed the industry for the best but no Tyra and the crew had to take out their own experiences in the industry on these girls.
@its-MK...
@its-MK... 2 жыл бұрын
When this show was on, there were really unhealthy ideas around boundaries (or lack therof). And because of that, a lot of us had our boundaries totally violated because we felt like we weren't entitled to have them to begin with. It's a big part of how I ended up in a very abusive relationship for a decade. Your attitude is truly a breath of fresh air. It's so lovely that I found myself tearing up when you said positive, supportive things.
@abdiikhlover1
@abdiikhlover1 2 жыл бұрын
The poor girl's trauma is not "painful memories", it is a life altering trauma, you're never the same after going through something like that. The painful memory is what we have after watching him say that
@sonorasgirl
@sonorasgirl 2 жыл бұрын
Jay’s comment about the model pushing aside her trauma and Jessica asking if that’s something that can be pushed aside is spot on. It’s definitely not just stuff that can be “pushed aside” long-term, And doing that in the short-term is unhealthy anyway - it’s dissociation and chronic dissociation in response to trauma triggers a a SYMPTOM of PTSD!
@gummybeast6343
@gummybeast6343 2 жыл бұрын
Asking a SA survivor to pose while a man is all over her is like asking someone who’s friend just died to pose in a grave Oh wait...
@christinekillen3852
@christinekillen3852 2 жыл бұрын
this.
@alexfromme5025
@alexfromme5025 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this around when it originally came out and, despite being a total ANTM stan, I felt WRONG about this. I felt WRONG about the WHOLE reason they brought Kayla on the whole time and I could never shake it... Good to know my instinct was on point! Even at such a young age where I was so gullible and easily influenced... So fucked. All of the judges involved in this show should come out with an apology honestly.
@gerardwfreak
@gerardwfreak 2 жыл бұрын
During one of Mr Jay's behind the scenes/ fan questions episodes of this cycle (the videos I think can still be found on KZbin), he's asked about this specifically, and he honestly came off as "We talked about it, and she just did it, we didn't pressure her, she decided on her own that she wanted to do it", and it was felt so dismissive and like he hadn't done anything wrong, it happened and that was that. How can you, years later, and people telling you online that what you did was so disgusting and horrible? You could've done something different for her (you've done it before when having a model pose with a plastic doll instead of an actual child for example), you could've easily done the same thing here. Just have her rollerskating around a small area and that be that. But no, you probably want to 'help her get through her trauma'.
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
he tries to hard to push Tyra under the bus, but he ain't any good either (consider this, he spent more time with the girls than Tyra(nt))
@mielissa100ify
@mielissa100ify 2 жыл бұрын
The part that trips me out is how they call out the editing when it’s convenient.
@stephaniesands119
@stephaniesands119 2 жыл бұрын
Nigel: *"Commercials cost HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS SO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY"* Production: _traumatized models who didn't consent_ _uses an old IPhone 6 with a cracked screen to shoot_ _is fine with people getting injured_ _water that is obviously not water_
@HLCampbell86
@HLCampbell86 2 жыл бұрын
The rest of the horribleness aside, notice that the "commercials" barely even show their feet? Anne was almost wiping out while delivering a line that was... shown in close up, not even rolling forward.
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
and the boys were very unnecesary tbh
@visualbeauty3427
@visualbeauty3427 2 жыл бұрын
It's Ann without E
@canlouann3675
@canlouann3675 2 жыл бұрын
Season 7 episode 1. Tyra straight up shames and insults a girl for being an exotic dancer. The model calls herself an “entertainer” and Tyra says “you mean you’re a stripper” and then gets offended when the model tries to compare dancing to modeling and Tyra insists she accept they’re not the same. It was so unbelievably rude of Tyra.
@christinegarrett7257
@christinegarrett7257 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this episode from when it first ran. I felt so bad for Kayla. Whenever I see her in any episode from the two seasons that she was in, this is immediately the first thing that comes to mind. They should have (not just could have) changed it up for her. I feel like Liz was laughing because she was nervous and that was her way of reacting to the stress and not that she was making fun of it. How many takes did they get? It's a lot of things to throw at a person and expect a great performance.
@Shay-cw5dr
@Shay-cw5dr 2 жыл бұрын
The sarcasm from your in this video was 😁😆😂. They were serious about that hot 2 trot water won't they.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel and the reaction videos on ANTM. It took Jessica’s KZbin Channel to realise they were running a scam on Television for years on end.
@angelagenx6629
@angelagenx6629 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in my 40’s and just getting back into roller skating after decades since my last time skating and it’s not like riding a bike! You don’t strap on skates and magically skate like you did when you were a kid. It takes practice to learn how to move, how to fall, how to balance, how to overcome fear. It’s ludicrous to expect someone to recite lines, hold a product, being groped by a stranger while wearing next to nothing, with wheels strapped to their feet when they haven’t skated in years, some have maybe never skated before, basically feeling like Bambi trying to walk over a frozen lake, all while being filmed and gawked at by onlookers. I can’t imagine the pressure of adding anything extra to my thought process while skating on top of “don’t fall and break a hip”. I’d like to see Mr. Jay and Nigel try to do their jobs while roller skating!
@pamfink4052
@pamfink4052 2 жыл бұрын
When I was in my 20's I skated every weekend, then I only skated occasionally, eventually didn't for years. Went skating with my church a few years ago and at first I was super wobbly, had to get used to it again and even then it wasn't like it was 30+ years ago lol
@LoucheWoman
@LoucheWoman 2 жыл бұрын
I did love the moment when the girl who keeps falling cuts off at "That's why I drink." Yeah girl, us too.
@ThePumpingiron27
@ThePumpingiron27 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is why they kept having men at the photoshoots. Because they knew Kayla is uncomfortable with men, so what brings good ratings. Having a model who clearly is uncomfortable with men, do photoshoots with men. Disgusting and I wish Kayla sued the show for putting her through the trauma.
@Jalil-wx7rh
@Jalil-wx7rh 2 жыл бұрын
Jessica, I hope this isn't your last ANTM video and you can find another way 🙏🏾🙏🏾 I just love them too much.
@JessicaKobeissi
@JessicaKobeissi 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not the end!! I’ll do a livestream soon to share the update. You guys are the best! Thanks for checking in ✨
@Jalil-wx7rh
@Jalil-wx7rh 2 жыл бұрын
@@JessicaKobeissi No problem! Thanks for your channel. Always.
@appleaj7381
@appleaj7381 2 жыл бұрын
@@JessicaKobeissi Yayy Im so glad I was in the live when you said you had 2 vids left, so glad its not over love your vids
@xryxix
@xryxix 2 жыл бұрын
def looking out for your vids! hope yall have a good day!! 🍀🍀
@Pappioll
@Pappioll 2 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear! 🎉
@CarboneCat
@CarboneCat 2 жыл бұрын
I feel for Kayla. This is wrong on so many levels. Edit: S.A. are not painful memories that you push aside. Is something horrific that you have to heal from for the remainder of your life.
@hoglova1
@hoglova1 2 жыл бұрын
S.A. is dealt with throughout your entire life. Even off the wall, strange things trigger those memories. It doesn't just get dealt with and go away.
@marklisowski6549
@marklisowski6549 2 жыл бұрын
Liz was noted for making “too many excuses” and got eliminated in the next photoshoot for complaining, which was in pairs of three with another guy in Venice. It would interesting to look back to see if Liz was really complaining and/or just editing.
@aubreysage7383
@aubreysage7383 2 жыл бұрын
What’s sad is I used to model and now I can reflect and see how gross the industry is. They bully young girls who are still finding themselves. I myself experienced bullying from grown adults just so they could feel powerful and get their way. I wish young girls knew they can say no and deny a job if they wanted to!
@Jalil-wx7rh
@Jalil-wx7rh 2 жыл бұрын
This episode made me cringe so hard! All for some non-existent water. 🙄 And for Nigel at the beginning to play with the girls like that AND Jay, is so irresponsible. This show is irresponsible. And then for Jay to be smiling like that while Kayla is filming. 🙄
@visualbeauty3427
@visualbeauty3427 2 жыл бұрын
Not Yu Tsai to Lenox, i hate Jay Manuel sometimes she doesn't give any direction he just watch.
@taybaybay5553
@taybaybay5553 2 жыл бұрын
"Sir this is a Wendy's" lol your chuckle at the end made the joke that much better! Love your videos and your takes on things your always so thoughtful with your words and it's refreshing thank you!
@momintheshoe4278
@momintheshoe4278 2 жыл бұрын
“Making a mockery of a mockery”. Hilariously true
@izzy-gb8us
@izzy-gb8us 2 жыл бұрын
why is jay acting like he's employing some amazing exposure therapy techniques? Like he said himself she needs a therapist, he seems to think he's the next best thing, when it was more harmful to her. So awful
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
he said "you need to get over it" and called it a day
@izzy-gb8us
@izzy-gb8us 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClaudetteVioletta if only it worked in real life! There would never be trauma again
@strawb2811
@strawb2811 4 ай бұрын
This sort of thing really hurts me. I'm a survivor of CSA and developed agoraphobia in my 20s after a scary street harassment incident. I've grown up anxious and depressed. People would push and push and push for me to "get over it" and "get out of my comfort zone". Shaming me for my difficulties. Now in my 30s I'm slowly (slowly!) becoming comfortable outside on my own. You can't force people it causes more trauma. The person has to be ready to try and everyone around them needs to support them. The worst thing you can do to someone who's suffered any sort of abuse is take away their agency. Allowing them to make free and independent choices is so important. ANTM bulldozing their boundaries and consent is cruel and abusive.
@kaitlynboisvert8150
@kaitlynboisvert8150 2 жыл бұрын
Kayla is married to a man now! Hopefully, she was able to overcome this trauma. This was heart-breaking to watch!
@annahejas54
@annahejas54 2 жыл бұрын
What, really?
@the-birbo
@the-birbo 2 жыл бұрын
proof?
@appleaj7381
@appleaj7381 2 жыл бұрын
ISNT SHE GAY??
@diimidosemineral9261
@diimidosemineral9261 2 жыл бұрын
If that's true I'm so happy for her💜
@diimidosemineral9261
@diimidosemineral9261 2 жыл бұрын
@@appleaj7381 she could have been gay out of trauma and when she dealt with that realize that she could be attracted to men too.
@CatarinaYankey
@CatarinaYankey 2 жыл бұрын
“H to T water”? Isn’t “H to T” what Tyra always says about modeling? Having to model “head to toe”. So you mean to tell me they made this product up just to force the girls into the uncomfortable situation? Smh
@NoxCattus
@NoxCattus 2 жыл бұрын
Evidently. Another commenter said it's a fake brand borrowed from Tyra's quote 😡 somehow just knowing that makes this whole thing way worse
@laeratharp2537
@laeratharp2537 2 жыл бұрын
To me this is similar to asking a model two do a nude photo shoot, having them say that they don’t want to do it and they are uncomfortable, and then telling them that they have to do a nude photo shoot in order to continue… So insane they are not canceled and sued for trillions 😡 (edit: they should not have included anything past she’s uncomfortable and she had a talk with Jay)
@april4524
@april4524 2 жыл бұрын
that has quite literally happened on this show 😭
@ladysarcasm6226
@ladysarcasm6226 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this happened at least every couple seasons 😞
@ThePumpingiron27
@ThePumpingiron27 2 жыл бұрын
@@april4524 I was about to comment that. Or when they shamed a girl for not wanting to model underwear, but a bikini. They got all mad about it.
@TheBigChubbyBunny
@TheBigChubbyBunny 2 жыл бұрын
They have done this
@butterflylanguage____
@butterflylanguage____ 2 жыл бұрын
Jessica!!!!! I recommend your videos to all of my photographer friends !!! ✨ I just love your personality and your gorgeous and funny on top of it ✨✨🦋
@rosemarygrabowska9949
@rosemarygrabowska9949 10 ай бұрын
I need a congressional hearing on ANTM.
@Kerenscardi
@Kerenscardi 2 жыл бұрын
😂 “I don’t appreciate you making a mockery of our mockery” lol
@Likewhoa300
@Likewhoa300 2 жыл бұрын
Downgrading sexual assault to merely a “painful memory” and giving unsolicited mental health advice on how she should deal with that past trauma is a truly ignorant and extremely dangerous thing to do. I think there was a part of Mr. Jay that felt for her and wanted to help, but his ignorance and blatant dismissal of her experience is just so hard to watch. These show runners and the on air judges and creatives should be thankful that they were never taken to court for criminal negligence. ALL of them acted in bad faith by doing what they did to the contestants on this show and Kayla is just one example of their outright refusal to act in the best interest of the young women and young men that appeared on this show. Really really shameful
@seaherne
@seaherne 2 жыл бұрын
As a roller skater, ignoring the rest of everything, the fact that it takes someone falling to use pads for one. Also they're asking them to turn? That's literally taken me weeks to get used to and even then, it's not smooth! Not wearing wrist guards? How did none of them break their wrists???
@nastjaangelova3671
@nastjaangelova3671 2 жыл бұрын
They exploit her traumatic experience for views and basically abuse her a second time. It's sickening...
@ckilbarger01
@ckilbarger01 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't the models have had a fun time walking down to the beach instead of roller skating? Just goes to show that the point of this commercial is embarrassment not modeling or learning to act
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
modelling industry is sorta bad in it's own light, but ANTM just create things, dangers, and things models can/can't do ina whole new level
@caseygrigsby76
@caseygrigsby76 2 жыл бұрын
I really love how you stand up for the models. I appreciate your commentary!
@6thgraderfriends
@6thgraderfriends 2 жыл бұрын
On a much lighter note, as soon as I heard the concept, I already knew they'd make fun of them for the skating abilities (or lack thereof). The audacity they have to not be perfect at skating on camera and have to memorize lines.
@samsongordon6742
@samsongordon6742 2 жыл бұрын
If they were ACTUALLY going to make a commercial were there was skating, they would absolutely be asking the casting directors for a model or actress with skating on there special skills list. they don't want to train someone to skate the day of the shoot, not to mention the insurance nightmare if the model got hurt. absolutely ridiculous that they make them do this. Then pushing through her boundaries and making her shoot with the male models is disgusting and the entire production should be ashamed of themselves.
@Lynsey17
@Lynsey17 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing what happens and watching Jessica hoping Mr. Jay will handle it appropriately..... ☹️
@ELP1125
@ELP1125 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized, ANTM is very heteronormative. They always talk about pushing the boundaries, but fall into these cliche tropes.
@JaneDoe-po4gu
@JaneDoe-po4gu 2 жыл бұрын
isnt it telling how the judges got mad at the model who giggled when her commercial was going badly, but then the judges openly giggled and laughed at the girl who was petrified of falling and viscerally uncomfortable. Girlies, i say this every episode, but those judges derive pleasure from these girls being miserable and that really is just a fact.
@ArtificialPerson
@ArtificialPerson 2 жыл бұрын
Your comments make me lmao literally I'm binging your videos now that I'm stuck at home Ty for brightening up my day
@tolkienfan89
@tolkienfan89 2 жыл бұрын
Wait- so Nigel has never, in his entire life, met someone who nervous laughs?
@reneeluye8611
@reneeluye8611 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking the same thing. I do it all the time
@DawnKellyMedia
@DawnKellyMedia 2 жыл бұрын
By forcing her to do something she DID NOT want, that she did not consent, they facilitated an assault. He kissed her neck. She did not want that. That's disgusting.
@dascherofficial
@dascherofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I love that they kept adding more and more safety gear to Anne and I just imagine by the end of this shoot she's bubble wrapped and the guy is still saying you can do this! 😂
@karenearle-browne6789
@karenearle-browne6789 Жыл бұрын
You are so right Jessica. They are retraumatizing her. I love your integrity and compassion. Speaking from experience, it is extremely hard to advocate for yourself under this kind of pressure.
@Milo_DeVenus
@Milo_DeVenus 2 жыл бұрын
The judges were so hard on Anne for her fears and nerves but not one of them congratulated her for not giving up. She fought through it. This whole "commercial" and the ANTM team were shameful. Just shameful.
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