America’s W.E. Fairbairn: How Francois d’Eliscu Taught US Rangers “To Kill or Be Killed”

This Professor Taught Americans to Fight Dirty in WW2 🇺🇸 Lieutenant Colonel Francois d’Eliscu
At first sight, Francois d’Eliscu was a short, balding, middle-aged man. He had the look of the intellectual about him - indeed he possessed several college degrees and a doctorate and was called by some the “Little Professor”. The reality was, however, that this unassuming looking man, this balding teacher - was one of America’s most lethal hand to hand combat instructors of the Second World War.
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[@UlyssesFiles]

A new short docu on Anders Lassen VC here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWTMgnyhmJx6iK8si=5QJar0qUW1Jsyt4L

[@zachariah9739]

I began training in martial arts at 5 years old. I competed until 18, when I enlisted in the Army. I continued training and branched out to different styles during my 13 years of service. I also taught combatives during my time in the Army. I’m now 37, w/ over 30 years dedicated to different styles and different competitions. I was fortunate that throughout my journey, my father always kept it real and reinforced in me that sport is MUCH different than real life. He used to say, “The only one that complains of an unfair fight is the one that loses”. After my first tour (Fallujah in ‘04), I came to understand that sport and survival are two VERY different things…

[@UlyssesFiles]

Great comment - good point 🙌🏻

[@santaclause12341]

Well said!!

[@ch0wned]

Sport is useless. Survival is everything.

[@badjaeaux]

i am 39 now, started around 6 my first school fight against a bully, and my first win, always wanted to join the army as an empty hand fighting instructor

[@StuartAnderson-xl4bo]

@cliffnielsen8567 that's as stupid a cliche statement as empty your cup. Fighting is fighting combatives is striking and grappling the same as it has been for 1000s of years Pankration was striking and grappling and so on. Fairbairn taught Ju-jitsu and striking with weapons today's MMA fighters would destroy Fairbairn due to skill evolution. Just because you can gouge, nut strike and bite well so can they lol, the history books prove wrestling and striking are the best arts. Bjj is actually Judo with Catch wrestling and Thai or boxing is proven as the best stand up martial art. The dirty shit is open to all people but you best believe a trained fighter is better at it than you but probably doesn't need it. Fairbairn knew this and taught this.

[@StevenRayW]

It seems a little ironic that the combat system used by the Americans to kill Japanese soldiers during WW2 was actually heavily influenced by a Japanese martial art taught by Japanese instructors.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yes definitely - great comment Steven 🙌🏻

[@JohnJohnson-pq4qz]

Yes, but the old school Judo developed by Jigaro Kano was also heavily influenced by western science and at least one throw was from western wrestling (the kata guruma).

[@Ebvardh]

It is the nature of war to take the great expressions of humanity, and turn them against humans, like a mocking demonic entity.

[@tabatzanabtheivth6557]

@@JohnJohnson-pq4qz Kata Guruma my beloved😍

[@JohnJohnson-pq4qz]

@@tabatzanabtheivth6557 you mean the 'fireman's carry'

[@ltgreen6626]

This broken and busted old Paratrooper thanks you. The survival schools, hand to hand, night jumping, etc. were a pain at times, but would do it all over again without hesitation.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Ah thanks for your comment, Mr Green and much respect to you - always deeply admire paratroopers and the hell they’ve had to go through to get where they were 😍

[@stefanschleps8758]

Thank you for your service.

[@ltgreen6626]

@@stefanschleps8758 Thank you Brother

[@1fromtheroad]

Have an ALL THE WAY DAY! 🇺🇸

[@badjaeaux]

there were so many bullies in school and in the streets where i grew up, there is no choice for me but to become a trained fighter

[@sonnysantana5454]

another WW-2' living legend his skinny book still sells and very much worth the read

[@bartofilms]

Judo seems to be a foundation of many combat systems. My instructor in college told us Judo was banned in Japan for a period after WW2 specifically because it had been used so effectively in h2h combat by the lighter and less equipped Japanese soldiers during some of the island battles with US Marines. An original student of Jigoro Kano, Judo's Founder, left Japan to teach Judo in Europe. Michigami. He eventually settled in Bordeaux, France. He trained Geisink, the first non-Japanese player to ever win a major Judo championship in Japan. I still love Judo, though I don't practice it any longer.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Very interesting. Didn’t know about Michigami settling and teaching in France. Yes Judo will always be v effective and the throws etc a dangerous component of combatives training 🙌🏻

[@jesse8031]

Judo was Jujutsu before this, and many other historical forms of fighting. Judo was basically de-streetified Japanese Jujutsu. Brazillian Jujutusu is adapted from Japanese Judo, which is adapted from Japanese Jujutsu. So a lot of these names etc are used interchangably and pretty inaccurately, especially for marketing. The Japanese studied martial arts long before they had these names for them. Just like the West did.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Interesting 👍🏻

[@ellacraddock6415]

At the age of 20, I trained with the Reacey's system and was promoted to the rank of shodan at age 23. I went on with my training between work and life. At age 52 I received the rank of Sandan, I was in an uncountable number of altercations in night club security in Louisville's "Red Light " district. And in more stable work in night clubs with the introduction of 'Meth" in that environment. This individual uses moves we used in Tracy's system, I can't understand why his work is unknown. Paul

[@UlyssesFiles]

Do you mean the Gracie system? Sounds v interesting- good to see you’re still training Paul 🙌🏻

[@justjosie1163]

Thank you as this gentleman, as well as several others, has often been overlooked. Enjoyed your presentation immensely.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thank you Josie 😀

[@outofthebox7]

The kind of man that could save martial arts. -Nice topic and video.

[@cliffnielsen8567]

Every part of the body is a weapon. Elbows and arssholles . True mixed Martial Arts. I would love to be taught by this man.

[@logosfocus]

pause 👀

[@xObscureMars]

90% of it was probably BS and most of the martial arts up till recently as they've discovered after Brazilian Jiu Jitsu started dominating everything

[@cliffnielsen8567]

@@xObscureMars I agree, totally 💯 %

[@mikechavez5986]

My grandfather fought in the Philippines in WW2... He taught my father a lot of tricks he learned overseas.. And very effective.. I wonder if these were the same lessons he was taught..

[@UlyssesFiles]

Interesting. I wonder what unit your grandfather was in?

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yep good point 🫣😅

[@stefanschleps8758]

The Philippines was the first place my own father was stationed to. My dad was an M.P. with the 503rd attached to Third Armored. According to the little I could gather from him before he died. It was from d'Eliscu, Fairbairns and Applegate that most of our men received, in one form or another, their hand to hand combat instructions. My fathers copy of the book "Kill or be Killed" was, and still is, a must read for anyone serious about martial training. All the best to you.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Ah so interesting- and your copy of kill or be killed must be a v early one 🙌🏻

[@stefanschleps8758]

@@UlyssesFilesIts currently in storage. 5,700 miles away from me so I can't be certain, but a good guess would be 1951 or 1952 edition. Of all the things in storage that one book means a lot to me. Peace.

[@Billy-Mandalay]

Such a high achiever. He completely reinvented himself.

[@reptile9816]

Another masterpiece!!! You continue to impress and delight me, serious subject matter, done so well, and researched to the 9s.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Ah thanks Reptile so happy to see you here 😄🙌🏻

[@RickJZ1973]

Excellent! Very informative and insightful presentation on D'eliscu. One of the fore father's of instructors on hand to hand combat. Very interesting man.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks Rick! Yes d’Eliscu was a fascinating character and a pioneer in unarmed combat training 🙌🏻

[@darryl8806]

Well Done With The Video.Fairbarn,Sykes,DeMott,Demote, Cestari,and others are the subject of Legend

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks Darryl, yes they are legends 🙌🏻

[@majorphenom1]

Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾

[@UlyssesFiles]

No problem 😊

[@AlphaSergio-pl4bm]

This guy needs a movie made about him .

[@UlyssesFiles]

I’d watch it 👌🏻

[@alanrogs3990]

@@UlyssesFiles But most people (hollywood fans) wouldn't, therefore a movie won't be made.

[@TheBlackRanger187]

Has to be one of the hardest and most badass men in history.🫡

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yes agree 🙌🏻

[@tonyelberg7814]

cool little dude, we need people like him to teach the arts of damage

[@TheChaves11b]

Excellent Video-Thanks For Posting This

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks 😄🙌🏻

[@DB-yj3qc]

The Army was still teaching this in 80s to 11B at least in some units.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Thank you for the information about the man and his books!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Our pleasure Charles 🙌🏻

[@artcianfanojr]

Wow! Never knew about him. Outstanding!

[@johnsmith-de9wv]

this was a v ery good history lesson ,I enjoyed it immensely

[@amcaleav]

Its like the old mcmap (black belt techniques)or line training.

[@narciliocosta]

Great video! Old and new (new soldiers/warriors) warrior's mentality are the same! And d'Eliscu shows us how to forge such mentality!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks - and great point!

[@johnboivt]

Your videos are amazing. Keep up the great work.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks John 🙏

[@gutterfightsecrets]

GREAT video, thanks brother!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Glad you liked it! 🙌🏻

[@timothymadaras1613]

Very worthwhile!

[@benjamingamache6441]

Ah, you did a video on him! I can't believe I'm 7 months late to the party. I feel like this video is a direct response to the comment I made, thank you!

[@peterhughes8319]

My grandfather was a unarmed combat instructor in the Aussie army in WW2 he was rained in the Sykes and Fairbairn systems and ju jutsu as taught by Tommy Turner he use to teach me stuff when I was a tour year old and he was a rat of Tobruk and early sas god bless the man

[@otahu26]

Most people have no idea how viscous the training is.. and to be able to do it fluidly like you move your eyes. Canada has since discontinued the defendu training. Deemed to dangerous in about 2001 for more routine martial arts Shotokan Karate, Jujitsu/Brazilian Jujitsu, Kali, and Judo. But those of us who learned Defendu know the No rules fighting that it is invaluable in Hand to hand combat.

[@englishlondon-pacific6177]

Great content 🙂

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thank you 🙌

[@lythonoise]

What you are seeing is “toddler” aikido. Look up Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu, Choi Yong-sool, and Morihei Ueshiba.

[@carlosocatavious3363]

How does this guy not have a movie where he is portrayed by Yul Brynner?

[@UlyssesFiles]

😂

[@lsf9818]

Amazing technique

[@bremnersghost948]

Imagine a D'Eliscu v Fairbairn Exhibition Fight, I'd Re-mortgage my House for a Ticket!!

[@UlyssesFiles]

That’d be a fight worth seeing 😜

[@gatocles99]

You wouldn't see that fight, or hear it, because they were all about Silent Killing.

[@LoganDrake-lp9th]

Great content !

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks Logan 🙏😊

[@mattnobrega6621]

Great content. As a marine corps veteran(o.e.f), i think that type of training would definitely be relevant and affective today. Todays combat traing is basically MMA. 🤷‍♂️

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks Matt 🙌🏻

[@masonboutwell7233]

Dude, you’ve been watching way too many movies. There’s not a secret martial art system the government is keeping from citizens because they’re afraid the population is going to become “too brutal.” If that were the case why would Tim Larkin even be allowed to teach what he’s teaching?

[@mattnobrega6621]

@@tatumergo3931 Thank you for your input. You have a valid point. 😏👍

[@batouttahell454]

Incredibly Well Done!!!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks Steven 😁👍🏻

[@trikk9964]

... fantastic video!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Many thanks!

[@thomaswillows306]

Great material 👏

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks Thomas! 🙌🏻

[@stefanschleps8758]

Very good. I grew up a mile from Ft. Meade, it was even the place where I began my own training in martial arts with Japanese karate in 1975. I wasn't aware of d'Eliscu's history on base there. It is a storied military base, in a quiet unassuming manner, much I suspect as was d'Eliscu himself. Thanks for sharing with us. Laoshr #60 Ching Yi Kung Fu Association

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks Stefan - yep it’s a fascinating base with quite a history 🙌🏻

[@locatefastballchange]

Grew up military. Love the video. Warrior-House Holder-Monk

[@bluetruffle4349]

Great video sir!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Glad you liked it!

[@patrickkelley6212]

I liked this a lot!

[@merlingeikie]

Great content and well done👍🏻🇦🇺

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks much appreciated 🙌🏻🇦🇺

[@self-studyenglisheveryday3952]

Again v interesting - subscribed 👍🏻

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks 🙏

[@joeypinterrockandroll3961]

great video, i just subbed.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks for the sub Joey much appreciated! 🙌🏻

[@crocodiledundee8685]

You should do a video on New Zealander Jack Hinton who had a very extraordinary time in the Second World War.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Hey Croc 😄 yes was just looking him up. Extraordinary man. The way he talked to top brass, ignored them and attacked the enemy - like he was fighting 2 wars

[@j.fnorfleet1969]

Good stuff

[@akrocuba]

OUTSTANDING!!! I would rather get injured in training thane killed in combat.

[@stevejones3530]

A real badass

[@russellcrawford2302]

Excellent!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@greiginvietnam]

In war, there are no rules. The dirty fighting is necessary

[@UlyssesFiles]

Hey Greig 🙌🏻

[@cpschultz3]

Lol as I Soldier I never called it dirty fighting or cheating or anything like that. I just told my troops that it was fighting and the only goal was to kill the other guy before they killed you and there were no rules except to win.

[@greiginvietnam]

@@cpschultz3 I didn't mean any disrespect at all. I just meant what youre saying, kill the other in any way possible cuz theyre trying to do the same thing to you, and they wont be polite about it

[@goodboi1725]

tbh dirty fighting could mean anything in that context. maybe he labeled it that because its untraditional when compared to civilian sport rules that try to prevent accidental deaths in the ring. or it was just ww2 propaganda at the time that was meant to indirectly call the japanese savages.

[@megamanx766]

​@@goodboi1725If you read about the Japanese during WW2 calling them savages is an understatement, they were downright demonic.

[@chrisdelaplante5515]

Incredible, i was in the french foreign legion and some technics with the rope, i learned this !

[@UlyssesFiles]

Ah thanks for the comment. I didn’t know the French Foreign Legion taught the rope.

[@59patrickw]

A military assault course without a log is not a SF course

[@UlyssesFiles]

😂 yes 👍🏻

[@anon2034]

lol

[@robertnewell4054]

2 Ivy League Schools & a Doctorate from a Top Tier University?! That alone is worthy

[@reductio1000]

great story and i certainly do not underestimate the abilities of this Francois eliscu but comparing him to Fairbarn seems wrong. Fairbarn was a (unarmed) cop in rough neighbourhoods pre war. He actually had to fight many times for real.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Good comment; similarities are there, both unarmed combat instructors to elite units at same time. D’Eliscu did get combat experience but not on the street, but on the battlefield. Both wrote self defence manuals. 👍🏻

[@FIREBRAND38]

I have mad respect for Fairbairn but where did you pick up the quaint notion that he was unarmed in Shanghai?

[@SoldierAndrew]

No Shanghai police were ever unarmed. They carried pistols, saps and riot batons. They even had a SWAT team armed with rifles.

[@jesse8031]

I 110% agree. And Fairbairn's legacy is the gross motor concept in modern combatives, which everybody in every military does to this day.

[@Klaatusman]

You might want to read a copy of Fairbairn's 1942 book, "Shooting to Live". He discussed techniques primarily of hand guns. Very interesting discussion why the Shanghai police of his period selected automatic, magazine fed pistols rather than revolvers. Capt. Fairbairn was definitely a skilled street fighting man who knew firearms and bladed weapons. While in Shanghai, he was well acquainted with handguns and rifles. Col. D'Eliscu was not awarded a silver star for action in the Gilbert Islands for merely writing a book. Remarkable parallels in both iconic careers.

[@alhuzayl6029]

"Sua Sponte"! ( Rangers Lead the Way)! Good ole'" Army Combatives" ! The "United States Army" is always "ahead of the game"!

[@alhuzayl6029]

Keep posting and thanks

[@1hackmodeller557]

His book is excellent!

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yes true 🙌🏻

[@scottc3165]

What a warrior.

[@sonnysantana5454]

he was a total all out real life bad a$#

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yes so true💥🙌🏻

[@FireStar-gz2ry]

If your enemy is not killed silently and quickly, your enemy will multiply

[@robertlehnert4148]

There is a VERY good chance this guy was my adopted Dad's CQC instructor (Charles Lehnert, 37th 'T"Division, 142 or 144 Platoon)

[@bobdownie.2806]

A true ‘martial’ artist.

[@bartofilms]

I keep a 30 y.o. 'Applegate -Fairbairne' dagger as a collector's item.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Good taste in knives you have there. Here’s something I did on the Fairbairn dagger 🗡️:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWXLaWStm9aWic0 And the original docu on Fairbairn himself:-

[@UlyssesFiles]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYHCg5ZobJh1gZo

[@bartofilms]

@@UlyssesFiles Very Cool. Turns out mine is the Black Jack variant.

[@UlyssesFiles]

@@bartofilmsI used to have one of those. V nice indeed 👌🏻

[@maxv6837]

What good does Judo do when the enemy has a gun and a knife? I have a K-bar and it would not go well for someone who tried to attack me with Judo, boxing, or any other martial art. I've also trained in martial arts just for fitness and overall dexterity..

[@juicedgoose]

It wasn't invented as a replacement to guns and knives. Read first hand accounts of war, up close things get messy and you need to be prepared for anything.

[@coldsmokepwrstroke]

It’s funny becuase there is a lot of small skinny bald martial artist out there who are insanely talented..

[@UlyssesFiles]

😂

[@brainberry896]

Damn.. that's one hell of a life in one person..

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yes true 👌🏻

[@ebrandon98]

I ordered "Hand To Hand Combat", just because of this video.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Wow that’s amazing - these old combatives manuals are pretty addictive reading 📖 Tks for commenting Brandon 🙌🏻

[@xtxt9135]

Seems a bit neat a man could come from being an academic to getting and holding such a position. The truth of how it all really came together would have been a story worth hearing.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yes agree - quite a guy to pull it off 🙌🏻

[@williamdelong8265]

Divide and conquer: Rule #1 One opponent: Hit at weakest point. Repeat till opponent falls then crush under foot. Army: Same rule divide and conquer. Turn enemies against each other. Suprise is best weapon. 3:16

[@williamb454]

A weaponized version of Dan Gable.

[@Old299dfk]

W.E. Fairburn, Carlos Gracie, Mitsudo Maeda, Mataemon Tanabe, Kano Jigoro... there seems to be a pattern, of little bald men being the most dangerous humans on the planet.

[@edi9892]

Wasn't it the Gracie who attacked a competitor with a crowbar? Small and mean is definitely a thing...

[@ubcroel4022]

@@edi9892 Yeah, the Gracies are sore losers. They also like to gang up and jump people who beat them in competition

[@andrewdunn8778]

​@@edi9892yep, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu frequently lost to luta livre / catch wrestling, and so, rich kids that they were, they would hunt down their opponent afterwards and hold him at gunpoint put them in submission moves to salve their wounds.

[@digitaldaemon74]

Lol😂 shaving my head

[@noumanahmad8093]

legend❤

[@lindafoxwood78]

Back in 1972, I was trained by Mr. Chin in Wing Chun Kung Fu. Mr. Chin was a trainer for the 82nd and Special Forces at Fort Bragg, NC during the Vietnam Era. I was 14 when Mr. Chin allowed me to be his 1st student as a favor for my father. I had never been so badly beaten in my life training with Mr. Chin. 1984 I joined the Army as a PFC with a top secret clearance at the age of 26. I'm just saying.

[@Mr.Ut21]

What are you just saying?? You sound like youre trying to insinuate that you are an Uber Ninja??😂

[@lindafoxwood78]

@@Mr.Ut21 I train one person at a time, just like my teacher did for me. My greatest fight was with my daughter 15 years ago. After 20 minutes of full contact, the Sherriff were called; when they got there, they just clapped their hands during/at the tournament. My neighbor's thought we were trying to kill each other. :) The only injury was the back of my head where my daughter had thrown me with an a Aikido move.

[@xilence1984]

What Mr chin is this you are talking about? What was his first name?

[@user-fy1vn1vh1b]

You give out strong Mc dojo vibes

[@xilence1984]

@@user-fy1vn1vh1b that's the feeling I was getting also. I knew a sifu chin from the city this person was talking about and he was not a wing chun guy at all he hated wing chun. But the guy was very very well known in the martial arts community. Not just in the area. I'll go into that after this person responds maybe.

[@theedain]

This American instructor was a scary dude

[@UlyssesFiles]

Absolutely 😅

[@christophersteingart2237]

In person, he was probably an unassuming gentleman and a scholar.

[@lauramater628]

I was able to get brown 3 in Tae Kwon do and 1 yr. Jujitsu. If I had got more training I would have been hard to deal with. Thanks to martial arts I had brothers and sisters more than any church I tried.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Ah well done Laura ☝🏻🙌🏻

[@kewlbreeze61]

we want more!!!✌️

[@UlyssesFiles]

Cheers 😜🙌🏻

[@raymondpoh]

Nice

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks 🙌🏻

[@FirstLast_Nba]

look at america now!! what was it all for?

[@batouttahell454]

Excellent Question!

[@bryankeeth1099]

I learned something

[@cliffnielsen8567]

The art of war

[@srjshapthnktl4978]

such training destroys souls and families

[@HarryANuis-vc1hv]

Don’t fight, fair fight, the win

[@stephenkinq5425]

Boxing for Cardio but not for fighting .. Slip nd evades punches , range , distance , Liver Shot , Cracked Ribs nd KO accuracy.. To be honest , Many people dont know how to throw hamds , looks silly doing it , cant get feet set properly to deliver strikes etc.. Boxing is one of the best arts you can learn .. add some Grappling/Wrestling [add Muy Thai] You have a suprem fighting machine. Seeing those soldiers in the vid , throw hands , no wonder Cap't told them to scrap the sweet Science.

[@-GRAVESITE-]

“We will be cruel to the Germans, and through our cruelty they will know who we are. And they will find the evidence of our cruelty in the disemboweled, dismembered, and disfigured bodies of their brothers we leave behind us.”

[@vlad.radu.poenaru]

from Gen. Pomut , to ace Vraciu, we romenians did a lot for America.

[@UlyssesFiles]

Yes very true Vlad 🙌🏻

[@thebaneking4787]

I like this guy.

[@UlyssesFiles]

A documentary we made recently on WE Fairbairn - d’Eliscu’s contemporary:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYHCg5ZobJh1gZo

[@LuisPerez-xh4bo]

I like dirty fighting, street fighting Same thing.

[@yankbat8481]

Great

[@UlyssesFiles]

Thanks 🙏

[@tigerboy60]

Can you do article on Michael D Echanis?

[@UlyssesFiles]

Ah an interesting character. Wasn’t he in SOF Mag? I’ll look deeper into him.

[@jeffjones658]

Michael Echanis studied Hwang Do under Jo Bang Lee. Some of the other students were Randy Wanner, Bob Taylor, and Bob Duggan who went on to establish Executive Security International ( ESI ) in Aspen Colorado I met a young man while serving in the U.S Army who had trained under Echanis at Jo Bang Lee"s school and that began my interest in Oriental Martial Arts coming from a Wrestling, Boxing, and Street Fighting background. Was Echanis a good Martial Arrist ? You bet . Was he a killer? No doubt. To bad he was assisted by one of Samoans crooked generals. As for the others they went on to become great trainers. I have been with Duggan doing over 80mph on the Aspen International Race track while engaging steel targets with 1911s and his blade work and hand to hand skills were off the charts. Echanis is a Legend. Thanks for Bringing up his name. Respectfully Jeff Jones

[@UlyssesFiles]

Ah thanks for this Jeff, v interesting- it sounds like you have some interesting history alongside that of Echanis.. 🙌🏻

[@tigerboy60]

You gotta Dig deeper ODYSSEUS on Michael , than a Hasty Fighting Position aka "Ranger Grave".

[@jeffjones658]

Thank You Sir. Respectfully Jeff Jones

[@ralphhall8606]

Real

[@jesse8031]

While this is interesting, I'm not sure he is a Fairbairn. Fairbairn, as you know, had 600 non training fights just as a cop. This guy is very different. No offense to him, but no Fairbairn.

[@jesse8031]

Here's what few of these videos discuss. Fairbairn's contribution to close combat wasn't his Defendu or knife fighting. It was the understanding of the need for gross motor and the body's physiologial response to combat stress. All military combatives still existing, and most police defensive tactics, rely on this study and finding by Fairbairn.

[@wadewilson0155]

Are you a Ahoy! Fan by any chance

[@michaeltheodore5149]

Is their any way to obtain and/or read any of the material this man and his British counterpart put out?

[@UlyssesFiles]

On Amazon Michael. You can order material from both chaps on there

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Fairbairn fighting style is still taught while this is not that says it all really