Bowie, Big Knife & Bayonet Fighting: TAKE THE HAND! Lessons from Biddle WW2

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scholagladiatoria

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Күн бұрын

Attacking the hand in big knife fighting, such as Bowie knife, bayonet or bolo. Lessons from Do or Die by Biddle (WW2) and elsewhere.
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@artspeaking
@artspeaking Жыл бұрын
My dad was in the Marines (4th Div) and remembers Biddle. He said he was one tough guy--nobody could take him, as he would throw the biggest guys around with ease. His knife fighting skills were legendary.
@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 Жыл бұрын
We all like to imagine defeating enemies by great strikes to their head or torso completely ending the fight right there or cleanly cutting off their limbs to win the fight but we tend to forget just how fragile us humans can be. A small, well placed cut to the wrists could sever tendons, completely taking away the ability to hold the weapon. A hard hit to the back of the hand (even with a blunt side) can cause the hand to open up and drop the weapon.
@kyleheins
@kyleheins Жыл бұрын
Exactly. This is the fundamental basis to the defensive fighting techniques I use when preparing for the possible need to defend in situations where my firearms are unusable. I typically carry a dagger or woodsman's knife when not at work, where I have a light roofing hammer instead, and the primary go to action in the opening of any fight is to avoid the initial attack in the most mechanically simple way possible, followed immediately with a strike if some kind to the fighting arm below the elbow, preferably the back of the hand or inside of the wrist.
@wauwCool
@wauwCool Жыл бұрын
😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD Жыл бұрын
man, a rock that is thrown at me could fuck me up enough
@elgostine
@elgostine Жыл бұрын
one of my favorite exchanges in langesmesser comes from talhoffer, step one, cut upwards into dudes wrist as he does a downard strike step two, smack him when hes on the ground bleeding froma severed wrist
@konstantin.v
@konstantin.v Жыл бұрын
@@kyleheins , you must be living in a dangerous place! 😃
@guyplachy9688
@guyplachy9688 Жыл бұрын
As a former Police Officer (1980's) in a force that did not generally carry firearms most of the time (no, not the UK), the wrist/hand attack was common defensive training for us, as we were issued with night-sticks for general use. How the night-stick was worn actually made it a more effective defence against short-range knife attacks than a firearm, as it was easier & faster to draw & bring it into action than a handgun.
@justin_ogre
@justin_ogre Жыл бұрын
I was just about to ask how an ASP might do against a small knife. Glad you guys had success with the baton.
@YellowLegion
@YellowLegion Жыл бұрын
NZ??
@tonymontana3949
@tonymontana3949 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Greece from this reason have the rule of six metres
@wehrewulf
@wehrewulf Жыл бұрын
If one has poor training then maybe.
@Rokaize
@Rokaize Жыл бұрын
@@justin_ogre asp batons are pretty terrible actually. I think he’s referring to the classic pr24 side handle style batons. Which are much more effective than the hollow tube of an asp baton
@TheAtomicCross
@TheAtomicCross Жыл бұрын
One of the best pieces of advice came from Starship Troopers, " The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand." Also applies to other situations, but hands are vital to the functionality of an attacker. I have an original SMLE bayonet and a repro M1 bayonet, the main difference is the point shape in terms of basic design.
@Iron-Bridge
@Iron-Bridge Жыл бұрын
All the more reason to not skip telekinesis and telepathy class.
@downunderrob
@downunderrob Жыл бұрын
MEDIC!
@timwarren9383
@timwarren9383 Жыл бұрын
"Who needs a knife in a nuke fight"
@TheAtomicCross
@TheAtomicCross Жыл бұрын
@@timwarren9383 Put your hand on that wall.
@michaelfranciotti3900
@michaelfranciotti3900 Жыл бұрын
Would you like to know more?
@laperrablanca1
@laperrablanca1 Жыл бұрын
For a long time I've been thinking of how to use a stick to defend against knife attacks. In this video you gave a very important clue - attack the knife hand
@jorisaarinen3597
@jorisaarinen3597 Жыл бұрын
security guards have techniques of using baton, maybe that will help also. they are mostly defensive methods more than attacking, but most cases you would want to move from defence to attack if you are not the person who are randomly attacking people, so it might fit very well. Idea is same, hit a hand.
@longrider42
@longrider42 Жыл бұрын
Yes, if you have the right"Stick" and you can whack a guy's wrist or lower arm, it might be possible to numb the hand, just long enough to take them out.
@huwhitecavebeast1972
@huwhitecavebeast1972 Жыл бұрын
If you did FMA you would have learned that on day 1
@KnightsWithoutATable
@KnightsWithoutATable Жыл бұрын
And use a sturdy, heavy stick.
@gerryjamesedwards1227
@gerryjamesedwards1227 Жыл бұрын
If you hit (hard) any of the bones in the wrist or lower forearm with a stout stick it will cause the hand at the end of that arm to become useless almost instantly and this can last many minutes. No way you could still hold a knife in that hand. If there is only skin, rather than muscle, over the bone a stick hit can cause the skin to split very easily, and it could conceivably break, or at least fracture, that bone, too.
@bjorntrollgesicht1144
@bjorntrollgesicht1144 Жыл бұрын
My group once did stress testing of unarmed vs knife in an enclosed space. What we found out works best is to bat the knife hand as it attacks and retreat. When we went forward , the best result was a double kill with 50+ holes. If you're not Fairbairn or a fremen, just stay out of shanking distance and protect your squishy parts.
@c.guydubois8270
@c.guydubois8270 Жыл бұрын
May your knife chip and break...
@bjorntrollgesicht1144
@bjorntrollgesicht1144 Жыл бұрын
@@c.guydubois8270 Bi lal kaifa.
@peterbogart4531
@peterbogart4531 Жыл бұрын
Reminiscent of fencing, where you are bound to be scored upon sooner or later.
@bjorntrollgesicht1144
@bjorntrollgesicht1144 Жыл бұрын
@@peterbogart4531 yep! Only with a blade this short switch that to "almost immediately".
@marcomcdowell8861
@marcomcdowell8861 Жыл бұрын
His techniques were passed down through LINE training in the Corps. The knife/bayonet section was pretty aggressive and eye opening. Granted, we used plastic knives or our bayonets with scabbards (the instructors actually used their Ka-Bars or unsheathed bayonets during their demo), but they focused on us using our forearms as shields or to take the thrust to the forearm. Rather the blade get stuck in your arm instead of your gut or chest, and to slash, stab or bunch the opponents knife hand.
@sawyere2496
@sawyere2496 Жыл бұрын
Ow!
@azraelf.6287
@azraelf.6287 Жыл бұрын
One of my instructors taught us to take the cut where you want it, not where they want to give it. Things like blocking with the outside of your forearm; because all the important stuff is on the inside. And putting your hand over your neck. A cut to the back of the hand sucks, but a cut to the neck sucks worse. If you're fighting with knives, you are going to bleed. The goal is to make them bleed worse and for longer. Winners drip, losers gush.
@Peagaporto
@Peagaporto Жыл бұрын
I'm from a south american culture called Gaucho (people in south brazil, uruguai and argentina), back in the flintlock days when firearms were not so easily accessible and pretty much everyone and their mother's carryed daggers paired with a honor duel culture, well, we ended up developing a quite comprehensive system called "esgrima criolla", and a pig part of it was using the tradional regional "cloak" wrapped around the left arm precisely for that reason, you tangle the blade and riposte. Sadly the surviving manuals are hard to find, usually only available in spanish and mostly forgotten, the only video sources I found are from bullshito practitioners.
@matthiasthulman4058
@matthiasthulman4058 Жыл бұрын
@@Peagaporto I'd be interested in working with you on translating those manuals you are able to find and getting them transcribed into English and maybe German. But that's just an idea, let me know what you think.
@Peagaporto
@Peagaporto Жыл бұрын
@@matthiasthulman4058 I will try to see what I can find, last one I saw was in a small bookshop in argentine years ago. But I would definetly be interested in helping out. They are somewhat rare.
@cs4870
@cs4870 Жыл бұрын
You’re one of the most informative educators about historical topics on KZbin, and make it both understandable and entertaining. Keep being awesome Matt Easton!
@divafever9754
@divafever9754 Жыл бұрын
Everyone of his videos are the same. Waffle, filler and movement to hold the attention of the guilable audience.
@batteredwarrior
@batteredwarrior Жыл бұрын
​@@divafever9754 awww, jealous?
@JCLeSinge
@JCLeSinge Жыл бұрын
Sparred knives once with a HEMA guy. He kept his point offline and just waited to chop at my arm. I didn't really clock what he was doing with that guard at the time, you just explained it. Cheers.
@TheWirksworthGunroom
@TheWirksworthGunroom Жыл бұрын
As you say: "Applicable across the centuries". An important principle that should be taught more widely in modern systems. Great stuff.
@robertlehnert4148
@robertlehnert4148 Жыл бұрын
Biddle was a very under-rated if not outright slandered CQC instructor, especially by the 1970s & 80s armchair commandos and the Asian Martial Art fanboys. While not his "protégé", John Styers (1952's _Cold Steel: Technique of Close Combat_ ) was a student of Biddle and very influenced by Old Man Biddle.
@andrewk.5575
@andrewk.5575 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I believe Styer also credited Italo-Hungarian fencing master Giorgio Santelli for technical advice in the beginning of his book. A nice reminder that Western martial arts never died out entirely.
@DwarfElvishDiplomacy
@DwarfElvishDiplomacy Жыл бұрын
While you practised your hipfiring i studied the biddle
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy Жыл бұрын
I got Styers's book and another with Marine Corps fighting techniques. It describes the fighting styles Biddle used and the martial arts included: boxing, wrestling, jujitsu, savate, stick fighting, fencing, and Mexican knife fighting. All that makes a potent mixed martial art in of itself.
@mir9302
@mir9302 Жыл бұрын
Styers book's section on knife fighting starts with an example of a snap cut to the hand. A lot of people seem to misunderstand Styers the same way Biddle was misunderstood. The techniques may appear simple when compared to some of the FMA style techniques so prevalent now but they do work and can be taught relatively easily.
@robertlehnert4148
@robertlehnert4148 Жыл бұрын
@@mir9302 Years ago I wrote an online essay, "The Wheat from the Chaff", which I think is still out there, defending the simplicity of the Styers _Cold Steel_ method (which, per the late Carl Cestari, was only a fraction of John Styers' knife skill). Granted, especially north of the Rio Grande, knife vs. knife fights are as rare as being struck by lightening TWICE, but a Bradley Steiner admitted, if one finds one's self in that situation, Styers is more appropriate than say the direct-killing attacks of Fairbairn or Applegate.
@TheStonehammerFiles
@TheStonehammerFiles Жыл бұрын
I had bought a 15 inch over all bowie knife. With safely playing with it I realized that the techniques I learned from studying DeGrassi several years ago could be easily applied to the larger knife. Thank you for confirming this. I might look at Biddle's book at some point to get a greater degree of techniques to use.
@bierbrauer232
@bierbrauer232 Жыл бұрын
Quick shout out to Robert Redfeather and his book, "Apache Knife: Fight Like the Wind". His Chiricahua Apache tradition also has an emphasis on Bowie knife and subduing your opponent by taking the hand!
@REDMAN1808
@REDMAN1808 Жыл бұрын
I am glad you like the book and Thank you.
@scottwilliams8334
@scottwilliams8334 Жыл бұрын
I watched a show about Chiricahua Apache just the other day. Real bad dudes.
@matthiasthulman4058
@matthiasthulman4058 Жыл бұрын
@@REDMAN1808 just found some of your videos, going to watch those while waiting for the book to arrive
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc Жыл бұрын
There's a very popular saying in FMA: "Defang the snake"
@simonklein4687
@simonklein4687 Жыл бұрын
It works pretty well with small knives too, but you have to keep in mind that the short blade does not have enough inertia to displace the incoming thrust. That means you have to completely rely on footwork for defense.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 Жыл бұрын
Not _completely._ There is still the strength of your arm and what limited inertia and leverage the weapon affords you. The positioning from the footwork can mitigate the force that they can put into it as well. It certainly is more proportionally dependent on the footwork and less on the weapon, though.
@heraclius4077
@heraclius4077 Жыл бұрын
The way I was taught to do this with a small knife is to push the blade into the attack, sort of like a parry to the wrist. This way you use your structure to displace the attack, rather than the blade's inertia. It's also going to be much more reliable than swinging into an attack, since you're removing some of the timing elements. Of course, you're not going to be lopping any limbs off, but you're not likely to do that anyway with a knife under 6". And you can use the momentum of the incoming attack to fillet the muscles in the attacker's forearm - or so I've been told.
@simonklein4687
@simonklein4687 Жыл бұрын
@@heraclius4077 @Nevis Ysbryd As Matt mentioned, it can be done, but not reliably enough. That is my experience, too. It also depends on the oponent. My sparring partner was a bloody golem and there was no way to move his hand with a small knive.
@MrPiotrV
@MrPiotrV Жыл бұрын
@@pinocchio418 You're right in that footwork is much better to prevent the hit but the point of the cut is not so much to prevent that one attack but to disable your attacker. Both are important, but for different reasons. Another good thing about these 2 actions is that they work very well together.
@chestermosburger3113
@chestermosburger3113 Жыл бұрын
best catch them when they're asleep and saw their hands off
@willabby585
@willabby585 Жыл бұрын
I've heard you explain the "offend that which offends" concept before, but it never once occurred to me that it would work with knives. Very cool, and even useful in modern times.
@daveh7720
@daveh7720 Жыл бұрын
We don't normally notice it, but that concept is a basic tenet of any risk management effort. The most immediate threat requires the most immediate response. Even in a simple baseball game, if there are runners on base and the batter gets a hit you try to head off the runner who's closest to scoring.
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy Жыл бұрын
I remember reading a bodyguard manual where the writer had a saying from the New York Police, "Watch the hands." This was where the threats were going to come from in a confrontation.
@johnm249
@johnm249 Жыл бұрын
Gun, Knife, Punch, Grabs all come from the hands.
@datura0000
@datura0000 Жыл бұрын
Be aware not to be kicked while doing so.
@johnnobody3288
@johnnobody3288 Жыл бұрын
Keep eyes on center mass. Shoulder movements will also telegraph moves. Just like in boxing.
@joco762
@joco762 Жыл бұрын
“Madly shanking away” Sounds like a great way to pass the time.
@ShidenByakko
@ShidenByakko Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, there's a philosophy from numerous Martial Arts that follows the principles almost exactly: 1) Get out of the line of attack 2) Redirect the attack 3) Neutralize the weapon 4) Neutralize the opponent. Which, in the end,, simple to learn, but in application, can take a lifetime to master!
@patricktoohey8310
@patricktoohey8310 Жыл бұрын
That's good but go deeper for better results. Simultaneously move out of the line of attack (without backing up - use angles to "retreat forward"), neutralize the incoming attact (destroy & trap the limb), strike in triplets - three strikes so close in time they seem to be at once. It's called "triple hands". It all happens at once, within one second. If you can hit right and left, up and down, or both - then you will temporarily stun the nervous system for about one second - long enough to finish them if you know how and act on that knowledge. If you dont get the stun you still evaded the attack, controlled their movement and attained a superior position for even control (break thier structure / balance) and always more attacking. This is not armchaiir theory, it's completely viable if and strategically sound if you can pull it off. The best way? No, but better methods take a lot more skill.
@pey7759
@pey7759 Жыл бұрын
This was refreshing to watch. Ive made two versions of "big blades" clinic material intended to bring sabre (and a little rapier) technique into the more modern context of a knife fight, and to hear a little affirmation of my experimentation come from so such a well-regarded source will no doubt bring a bit of comfort and confidence to my approach in the classroom. Just for gits and shiggles: my take on big knives ranges from 12"ish to 24"ish
@robertbenson5831
@robertbenson5831 Жыл бұрын
I found this to be true in my own exploits. A disabled opponent can also create a buffer zone to limit on coming attacks, buying time to engage other attackers.
@tarkajedi3331
@tarkajedi3331 Жыл бұрын
A brilliant video - Biddle is one of the great teachers of practical fighting........ So surprised and happy that someone else has studied Biddle - The guy taught real world skills not nonsense......!!!
@jdhess1668
@jdhess1668 Жыл бұрын
I knew a man who fought in the Pacific during WW2. His unit was issued large Bowie knives to carry. During one battle he was able to save his life by drawing his Bowie and parrying a bayonet attack. He used the Bowie against an Ariska rifle with a bayonet. It ended poorly for the attacker.
@embracethesuck1041
@embracethesuck1041 Жыл бұрын
Biddle was a fascinating fellow. Disney actually made a movie about him called "The Happiest Millionaire". He even founded a Christian movement combining religious principles and physical fitness.
@kibbeystovall7546
@kibbeystovall7546 Жыл бұрын
Just some bayonet history to add. The "sword" bayonet Matt is holding is the British Pattern 1907, and was intended for the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE) rifle. It was based on an earlier Japanese Type 30 bayonet. The contemporary British Pattern 14 rifle's bayonet used essentially the same blade and handle design as the Pattern 1907, but had a taller cross-guard to mount to the Pattern 14's different muzzle configuration. The American's Model 1917 rifle was nearly identical to the Pattern 14, and thus its Model 1917 bayonet was essentially identical. The American 1917 bayonets were made by Remington and Winchester. The American Model 1903 rifle was primarily issued with the Model 1905 sword bayonet, which again, was nearly identical to the Model 1917/Pattern 14/Pattern 1907/Type 30 in overall length (16"-17" blades with grip handles) and blade design, the only real differences were in how they mounted to their rifles. By World War II, however, the British and American primary service rifles (the Lee-Enfield No 4 and M-1 Garand respectively) would no longer be issued with sword-type bayonets. The M-1 used a shorter blade (about 9") whose handle/mount was backward compatible with the older Model 1903 rifles. The British Lee-Enfield No 4 rifles abandoned both the blade and the handle of the earlier Pattern 1907, adopting a simple 9" spike-type bayonet which would only be useful when mounted on the rifle. Post WWII, short bladed bayonets were made for No4 rifles, but they still lacked handles, only having the barrel-mounting socket. Interestingly, the British No 5 rifle (the "Jungle Carbine") was issued with a shorter (9") bladed bayonet with a grip handle. For those interested in greater details, a recommended web site is: worldbayonets.com/index.htm
@mcgregorpiper
@mcgregorpiper Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the link to the website When I was about 14 years old (50+ years ago) I rode the city bus to downtown Dallas to go to a great Army-Navy store. I bought a bayonet for about $5.00. The owner wrapped it in a paper bag and told me not to take it out of the bag until I got home. I suspected it was a British bayonet because the button latch was different than the US bayonets I had seen. Now I know it is the 1907 model that I have (still after all these years)
@salavat294
@salavat294 Жыл бұрын
The skills and ability to fight with “cold steel” edged weapons, need to be in the combat-skill “tool-chest” of combatant. Battle goes on, regardless of whether you have or don’t have ammunition. Out of ammunition, well then, fix bayonets and charge. From time to time, the odd sentry may need to disposed of quiet and discreetly. There is a surprising amount of skill required to properly cut a throat. Extra knowledge is never a burden upon your back.
@torg2126
@torg2126 Жыл бұрын
If you're in the field, you need a good knife as a utility tool. It might as well be combat useful as well, secondarily to its use as a camp knife.
@salavat294
@salavat294 Жыл бұрын
@@torg2126 : The sapper’s shovel, axe, sledgehammer and machete, are also primarily tools, as well. But, that does not exclude their use as effective and vicious weapons, especially in hand-to-hand mêlée brawl. From the time of “cavemen” most weapons started as tools, as a means of hunting food or for agriculture.
@torg2126
@torg2126 Жыл бұрын
@@salavat294 Weapons are ultimately tools. Versatility, however, is key when you need to keep weight down, so spike bayonets are objectively worse bayonets than knife bayonets, as one is just extra weight that you will probably never use outside drill, while a knife is a knife.
@johnnobody3288
@johnnobody3288 Жыл бұрын
​@@torg2126I love my Gerber Perangue. Not as long as a machete but coupled with a good combat knife the results can be devastating.
@HrothgarTheSaxon
@HrothgarTheSaxon Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, as usual, thanx Matt! It inspires me to do some testing with umbrellas and books 🤔
@jakebriley6493
@jakebriley6493 Жыл бұрын
Hey Matt! I'm an American knife maker who's a bit obsessed with Bowie knives. I've spent many hours pouring over historical pictures and sketching out dozens of different forms considering minute features like guard size, blade width, belly shape, tip acuity, ect and how they effect the use of the blade as a weapon and tool. I would LOVE to see a video from someone as knowledgeable as you about the different forms of Bowie (From the old brass backed and "Smithsonian" blades to 20th century Case and Collins offerings) and the implications of the various design features that have popped up over the years.
@therecalcitrantseditionist3613
@therecalcitrantseditionist3613 Жыл бұрын
Very this
@captainamerica3531
@captainamerica3531 Жыл бұрын
How’s about the Cold Steel Trailmaster? Any experience with these?
@jakebriley6493
@jakebriley6493 Жыл бұрын
@@captainamerica3531 Personally? Yes, I own an O1 Trailmaster. I like it a lot but it's not the best cutter. Too thick and narrow for really good slashing or chopping, but it has great balance for thrusting and its very tough.
@darthhodges
@darthhodges Жыл бұрын
When you mentioned using something other than a knife to attack a knife weilder's hand I was reminded of the Bourne movies. I can remember three different fight scenes where the title character uses a ball point pen, a tightly rolled magazine, and a hand towel to attack his opponent's knife hand. Regardless of realism they are good examples of grabbing whatever you can to stop a knife.
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 8 ай бұрын
In Bourne series, those tactics were derived directly from Filipino style knife fighting. It's called "De-fanging the Snake". Some FMA practitioners theorize that Bowie may have been exposed and influenced by Filipino bolo techniques. What a lot of folks don't realize is that there were Filipinos present in Louisiana (where Bowie lived for a while) since the 1700's, mostly descended from Filipino sailors who jumped ship off of Spanish galleons and settled in the area.
@andreassjoberg3145
@andreassjoberg3145 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see lessons how to use various implements like books, to defend against knife-thrusts and slashes. The biggest risk of violent death today is being attacked by some punk with a short knife when you are totally unarmed. Being able to first deflect, then follow up with a disarming-attack on the knife or hand using whatever one has in the hands would be a great thing to know.
@PeterKoperdan
@PeterKoperdan Жыл бұрын
The #1 life-saving technique is called "running away" ;-)
@asmrlouisiana
@asmrlouisiana Жыл бұрын
100% agree with your lesson - attacking the closest target to my body, which is the incoming hand. Thank you for this informative video!
@SifuKuttel
@SifuKuttel Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! There are parallels in Chinese swordplay too with both jian and dao to attack the hand/wrist/arm. I'd also like to add from experience of being stabbed in the hand, and fingers more specifically, don't rely on a single cut/attack to do the job. I could still hold the knife and move without much problem, and shock didn't set in for a good 15 min. So don't overextend, or stop after a single strike, be smart and ready to continue till the blade actually drops!
@kinbolluck476
@kinbolluck476 Жыл бұрын
CHICKADEE CHINA THE CHINESE CHICKEN
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd Жыл бұрын
Ive been training/trying to rebuild Native American knife/tomahawk systems & its a methodology that holds true there as well. Though if you have a tomahawk in the other hand it does change things ever so slightly obviously.
@DoomedPaladin
@DoomedPaladin Жыл бұрын
I recently got into a small argument over that scene in Crocodile Dundee over whether or not tiny-knife fighting was a thing in New York, and was reminded how much I wanted a knife like the one Dundee pulled out. It never occurred to me that bowie knives might have their _own_ style! I look forward to seeing more of your videos, especially about that knife.
@harrykouwen1426
@harrykouwen1426 Жыл бұрын
I was taught to go for the fingers, toes, shins and ears. The most pain nerves are there where the body ends, so the relative easiest ways to tame or weaken an attacker is that without doing to much damage to get yourself in trouble afterwards. The Biddle methods of incapasitating an opponent are legendary. Very brutal to watch but highly quick and effective indeed. Check the ww2 instruction films here on youtube.
@tarkajedi3331
@tarkajedi3331 Жыл бұрын
A practical guide to Biddle techniques is hard to find... Excellent work sir!!!!!!!!
@steveb1164
@steveb1164 Жыл бұрын
Anthony J. Biddle is a hero, period. His story was written by his daughter, Cordelia Drexel Biddle, in her book "My Philadelphia Father", which was turned into the Disney movie "The Happiest Millionaire'. His daughter wrote that the only person he was afraid of was his aunt, Mary Drexel (she was a holy terror).
@dashifusheffield2568
@dashifusheffield2568 Жыл бұрын
I am a Chinese gung fu practicner. We are taught to put the weapon to flesh as soon as possible. Like you said it applies to multiple weapons.
@scimitarstyle
@scimitarstyle Жыл бұрын
Great video but something to note is that the knife is pronounced (boo-wie) unlike the singer (bow-ie). The surname for Jim Bowie, the knife fighter and Texas revolutionary, is originally Scottish and comes from the Gaelic word "buidhe", meaning "yellow", "fair haired", "lucky", etc. which eventually becomes "bui", also meaning "yellow". The original Gaelic, like the knife fighter, is pronounced with a long "oo" sound, buidhe -> pujə.
@barretharms655
@barretharms655 Жыл бұрын
I was trained in Biddle as a teenager this is knife fighting 101 from here you go on as a warrior. the first words out of my trainer's mouth everyday.
@Braindazzled
@Braindazzled Жыл бұрын
I think Sir Richard Burton's "Manchette System" also relied heavily on hand and arm cuts for their non-lethality.
@Chuklz70
@Chuklz70 Жыл бұрын
It’s freaking sad, I cannot remember his name. Way back in the early 80’s we had a fellow come to our school who was a WW2 veteran. He had been in the same unit as the soldier with the record distance knife throw, dispatching a sentry as they infiltrated the enemy. He had a collection of crazy knives for us kids to ogle over.
@artawhirler
@artawhirler Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, Matt! Thanks!
@carlbecklehimer1898
@carlbecklehimer1898 Жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned FMA. Ironically, I've noticed that most of the edged weapon systems look a LOT alike and have a lot of the same principles. Truth is truth I guess.
@armynurseboy
@armynurseboy 8 ай бұрын
Truth is Truth.....but FMA also absorbed a lot of Spanish blade work as well. And some FMA system striking patterns is based on teaching the weak points in Spanish armor. For example, in Serrada style, the thrusts they use in their striking patterns are aimed at the locations on the body where there would have either been a seam or gap in a Spanish cuirass.
@carlbecklehimer1898
@carlbecklehimer1898 8 ай бұрын
@@armynurseboy The systems of Arnis is literally derived from the Spanish word for armor and has a lot of that in it also. FMA in general isn't afraid to adopt things from other systems and regularly evolve. I can't think of too many other systems that do that. My instructor was under Ernesto Presas in the 70's. It doesn't look like what I have seen in other schools that both Ernesto and Remy taught because they changed as they learned more or adopted things that worked better than what they were doing before. It's both a good and bad thing.
@b.h.abbott-motley2427
@b.h.abbott-motley2427 Жыл бұрын
George Silver's dagger system uses this method: "The manner of handling your continual motion is this, keep out of distance & strike or thrust at his hand, arm, face or body, that shall press upon you, & if he defends blow or thrust with his dagger make your blow or thrust at his hand."
@sethprice241
@sethprice241 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you sir.
@johnmcdonald5998
@johnmcdonald5998 Жыл бұрын
Taught the very same concept from my knife instructor - get the hand...excellent analysis. Very fluid movement with weapon.
@ausgepicht
@ausgepicht Жыл бұрын
While many arts have limb attacks - for example Muay Thai on kicking arms and legs intentionally, European sword arts, etc. - no art does it in the scale, degree, and level of the Filipino martial arts. While there are hundreds, maybe thousands of "styles" in the Phillipines, "defanging the snake" or "guntings" are at the core and heart of the vast majority of them. The details, nuances, amount of techniques in the catalog is vast and immense. So much so, that it is also part of their unarmed catalog. Boxing, kickboxing, and grappling systems where attacking the limbs, muscles bellies, bones, etc. as a primary tactice before closer targets are ever engaged. Also, I thoroughly enjoyed your video and your delivery of the information pulls one along and never gets dull. Very well done.
@ferdonandebull
@ferdonandebull Жыл бұрын
My dad taught knife to paratroopers during Korea.. I found out when I was sixteen.. I asked about knife fighting and what advice would he give someone.. “It’s a bad idea. Knife to be quiet is an ambush. A knife in a fight is not going to be quiet.. you might as well use gunpowder.” What if you don’t have a gun? “You need to plan better…”
@hermespino9985
@hermespino9985 Жыл бұрын
In the limited training I've had in FMA, a defensive cut to the hand, became my primary sparring technique.
@davekelly9657
@davekelly9657 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Such a wealth of information. Your collection of weapons is wonderful and amazing. Thanks again for sharing.👍👍⚓⚓🇺🇲🇺🇲
@brissance
@brissance Жыл бұрын
A person who doesnot gets chills in spine by sight of these pieces of steel is not in his senses. These are fearsome tools.
@bladetasticknives5712
@bladetasticknives5712 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the topic !!
@MercutioUK2006
@MercutioUK2006 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Biddle's treatise is available on Kindle (as I'm no longer allowed to clutter shelves with reams of books) for a very reasonable £3!
@dondickerson9978
@dondickerson9978 Жыл бұрын
I truly enjoy your videos. You bring great insight and history to life.
@mrgaryent
@mrgaryent Жыл бұрын
That was fantastic! I'm watching your videos from now on. Life saving simplicity on that one. But I could imagine the effectiveness.
@wisdomoverfear2685
@wisdomoverfear2685 Жыл бұрын
And I always thought the three main targets where eyes,throat and knees ! You won't win many fights if you cannot see,breathe or move ! Never considered going after the hands ! Thanks for another great tip !
@superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194
@superrobotmonkeyhyperteamf3194 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always i would also add that Giganti suggest this against armoured opponents. Especially interesting is D'Alessandro's Treatise where has two tactics called the rippligiata/ventaglio and the sbaratto tondo there he also mentions that by chance the opponent will receive cuts to the hand or drop their sword because the hand is numb. Joachim Meyers mentions in one of the versions a similar cut about which he says that its great to use with the dussack against all kinds of mismatched weapons.
@GuusvanVelthoven
@GuusvanVelthoven Жыл бұрын
Nice tip but I'll stick to running away when faced with a knife attack... 😄
@steveborgresistance8310
@steveborgresistance8310 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work, cheers!🗡👍🤠
@johnm249
@johnm249 Жыл бұрын
I watched the USMC Knife & Club Fighting original WW2 film at the Library of Congress back in 2004. Very cool info at US Library of Congress. They actually had some very impressive WW1 Disarming people with your rifle attached bayonet.
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 Жыл бұрын
This kind of stuff is why in the Tao of JKD, you don't just find moves from judo, jiu jitsu, boxing, wrestling, muay thai, karate, wing chun, etc (all found in modern MMA btw), you also find moves and concepts from fencing, HEMA and other weapons martial arts. "Use what works from any style or system!" (Btw once you close distance you better know how to grapple and wrestle, either be all the way OUT or all the way IN). P.s. this will sound brutal, but I mean only self defense when lives are on the line. But also use what Miyamoto Musashi talked about, frequent stabs to the face and throat. When you're in closer range you should constantly be mixing in stabs to the face/throat, because if you can get your opponent to flinch, or shy away, the next stroke can kill them
@shorewall
@shorewall Жыл бұрын
Yep, I think the eyes are the most vulnerable part, because we involuntarily flinch when they are threatened. And even a flinch can be the difference.
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 Жыл бұрын
@@shorewall yup exactly and that's why in certain situations in an unarmed fight, especially when grappling, poking at the eyes can distract your opponent, at least and at most, limit their vision
@liamvickerman4745
@liamvickerman4745 Жыл бұрын
I love it, as you cover this I reach for my knife, as you introduce the guy I knew a USMC Kabar was the right purchase!!
@brandyhouston2105
@brandyhouston2105 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the video.
@dreembarge
@dreembarge 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Matt.
@mickbrownartist3788
@mickbrownartist3788 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was one of the men stationed in Scotland responsible for training the 1st army rangers for d day. I still have that very bayonet interestingly the first 4 inches have been sharpened and he used it for chopping foliage and wood as well as defence etc
@PeterKoperdan
@PeterKoperdan Жыл бұрын
Who trained your grandfather?
@mickbrownartist3788
@mickbrownartist3788 Жыл бұрын
@Peter Koperdan he was stationed in India before coming back here I'm currently digging into his history.
@candowonpressup6962
@candowonpressup6962 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! More on knife techniques please 👍🏻
@Shirocco7
@Shirocco7 Жыл бұрын
Awesome sensible video, cheers
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 Жыл бұрын
That is absolutely fascinating.
@puddin94
@puddin94 Жыл бұрын
Enlightening, thank you 😊
@sgtmajtrapp3391
@sgtmajtrapp3391 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and still applicable today.
@ronaldwells4427
@ronaldwells4427 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thanks!
@playedout148
@playedout148 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more of this type of content to include discussing content in books like, Kill or get killed, get tough, etc.
@simonsalgado3805
@simonsalgado3805 Жыл бұрын
Interesting take on using a rondel dagger defensively. I practiced with a fundo(weighted chain) against a knife from slashing and stabbing attacks like how the rondel is used defensively but I never considered a short sword or dagger used like that.
@christopherseivard8925
@christopherseivard8925 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I learned quite a bit !
@scottlehman9738
@scottlehman9738 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video.
@donaldmackerer9032
@donaldmackerer9032 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@daemonharper3928
@daemonharper3928 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual - interesting to note that in genuine times of conflict, go for the hands is right up there. Having cut myself accidentally a few times, in minor ways - a full bodied whack on the hand or wrist with a large blade would be horrific! Great self defence advice.
@Erebus.666.
@Erebus.666. Жыл бұрын
A great explanation of a very common sense skill. Fascinating stuff.
@motagrad2836
@motagrad2836 Жыл бұрын
I agree that the defense technique of going for the have likely goes back to sticks. We did a bit of goofing around with padded short sticks in college and I found defending by going for the hand or wrist to be quite effective
@thcdreams654
@thcdreams654 Жыл бұрын
Cool video man. Thanks.
@wind-upboy939
@wind-upboy939 Жыл бұрын
Again, very informative. Thank youu.
@anjanbora7943
@anjanbora7943 Жыл бұрын
U r a very good teacher 🙏
@davidduffy3021
@davidduffy3021 Жыл бұрын
Do or die is a great little book
@jameslecka8085
@jameslecka8085 Жыл бұрын
Jim Bowie died at the Texas Alamo 1836. His brother designed the Bowie knife. Jim was a dualist. Point- the fighting techniques range back at least as far as the early 1800's. The 1937 book therefore refers to a fairly long backwoods tradition. On another note. 18,000 US Cavalry sabres were ground down and issues to the Philippine Guerrillas circa 1942-43. A story you might like to go into.
@johnswoodgadgets9819
@johnswoodgadgets9819 Жыл бұрын
Good advice. Applies to striking weapons too, like the blackjack. In an altercation rather than combat, a hard blow to the back of the hand with a Convoy blackjack pretty much ends any fight. The enemy is that which closes the interval to do you harm. That is why more privates than generals die in combat. They are within the combat interval. Technically, a blow to an attacking hand or foot is just about the only truly simultaneous defensive and offensive move in close combat. That makes mostly hands and feet the enemy. The logical conclusion is that if both his hands and both his feet are disabled, the threat is pretty much abated. Whether he lives or dies then becomes a somewhat less urgent moral question. The other side of that is protect your own hands and feet!
@spencerthompson1
@spencerthompson1 Жыл бұрын
1827 Sandbar Fight near present-day Vidalia, Louisiana. What began as a duel between two other men deteriorated into a mêlée in which Bowie, having been shot and stabbed, killed the sheriff of Rapides Parish with a large knife. This, and other stories of Bowie's prowess with a knife, led to the widespread popularity of the Bowie knife. Bowie enlarged his reputation during the Texas Revolution. Died: at the Alamo, March 6, 1836, Alamo Mission, San Antonio, Texas Colonel James Bowie - Texas Volunteer Army Battles/wars:Texas Revolution, Long Expedition, Battle of Nacogdoches, Battle of Concepción, Grass Fight, Battle of the Alamo
@steventhorson4487
@steventhorson4487 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@whim6287
@whim6287 Жыл бұрын
Cutting the hands and arms is found in just about every Allied WWII Combatives manual that teaches the use of knives and was taught to me personally.
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD Жыл бұрын
are there Nazi combat manuals?
@FLStelth
@FLStelth Жыл бұрын
I really got a lot out of this video! Well done sir!
@morganpirate9127
@morganpirate9127 Жыл бұрын
Good moves. You can also hold your weapon between you and the advancing weapon holding hand. That way you let them run their hand onto your edge also letting them use their own force to defeat them.
@tn1881
@tn1881 Жыл бұрын
How the Soviet Union decided to study judo and develop sambo. Thomas Cowen” At some of the forts men fought at close quarters, bayonet to bayonet, and it was once again shown that, though the Russians have the advantage of size and weight, they are no match for the quicker and more skilful Japanese”
@Xileph410
@Xileph410 Жыл бұрын
Yes give me all the knives content, love it like always great video.
@joem5903
@joem5903 Жыл бұрын
Early 1800's for the Bowie at a minimum. One semi popular theory is that the Bowie type big knife replaced the smallsword in civilian dress in places like New Orleans. Some have theorized that Bowie knife fighting is a blend of Continental fencing styles and Scottish saber fencing. Bill Bagwell felt that the back cut was a Scottish trick.
@allones3078
@allones3078 4 ай бұрын
"Take the hand" is a classic move in FMA knife fighting and refer to it as "Defanging the Snake".
@EddietheBastard
@EddietheBastard Жыл бұрын
Yes, cutting to the hand/forearm is very common, and very effective, baton vs knife training such as used in military and other police work strikes to the hand are coached too. Benefits include low lethality, maximum reach, injury avoidance.
@bern1228
@bern1228 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up on Biddle's works. I just ordered his book and supplement. I've a collection of bowie knives and the books will be great research on fighting with them. Still trying to find a similar navaho knife. The one you show is awesome!
@Xinder720
@Xinder720 Жыл бұрын
Cold Steel sells navaja folding tactical knives. I have one myself and it has a 5 1/2" blade. Cold Steel even sells the same style of navaja knife that has a 7" blade! It's called the Espada.
@bern1228
@bern1228 Жыл бұрын
@@Xinder720 Thank you!
@lewissmith8743
@lewissmith8743 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the historical and cultural information in this video. Techniques developed in the past that still have context and are relevant to this day. I look forward to your thoughts in future videos of the adaptation of the then current sword fighting systems that early users of Bowie knives developed and used. Thanks again.
@peenplays4219
@peenplays4219 Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this. Thank you
@justindearmond1
@justindearmond1 Жыл бұрын
i really love Cold Steels line up of extra large blades. The Espada XL(7.5in blade) is just ridiculous....i must have one! I carry a Voyager XL (5.5 in blade) as my edc. Used to carry a Recon 1(4 inch blade) tanto half serrated as my edc, still have that one and its a tank.
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