American Discusses What It's Like To Work In Sweden

In this video I discuss why Sweden has a great work life balance including things that I've noticed after living and working here for the past three years. I also discuss which work culture I prefer between Sweden and America.
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[@lisahooks6002]

American surprised that a society actually wants you to be happy and healthy lol

[@StefanThyron]

Hahaha it’s a crazy concept tbh 🙈😅

[@annarehbinder7540]

Sophie Interested to see how that works out, pun, intended as suddenly a medium to fairly wealthy group have been working at home or staying at home.

[@SonnyKnutson]

@Sophie Well said. I am from Sweden but I agree with you. People are often ignorant and to many are easily influenced by the wrong things and go down a path of destruction. Humanity will always be this way because it's innate to being human. All we can do is try our best to minimize it.

[@jespereriksson5520]

Ashley Paulsen we learn 3 languages here, how many do you speak? Yeah thats what i thought. I also enjoy watching it all go down in flames. The riots and everthing is so entertaining to watch. I hope it keeps on going and the chaos

[@jespereriksson5520]

Ashley Paulsen you are not that smart Are you? Imagine thinking someone is the same person just because they dont agree with you.

[@athena12373]

I admire Sweden for their emphasis on work-life balance. I’m from Florida (USA) and the constant pressure to work longer hours, or the worry of being sick and missing work days is awful and does not benefit us as a society. The constant, fast pace lifestyle produces so much anxiety. Companies may think they are benefiting by employees working so much but unhappy employees don’t produce as much as happy ones.

[@pontus9209]

If this is the case then atleast one company in the whole US should have learned this fact, and then they could easily draw employees in by offering more vacations, sick-leave safety etc, and they would be more profitable as a result. I mean if we assume companies strive for profits, which they do ofcourse. Is this not done?

[@womanofacertainage5892]

@@pontus9209 Employees are mostly disposable to a lot of employers in the US. It's profits over people, not people over profits. And you're right, of course. When it's people over profits, there are plenty of profits and people are healthier and happier. But too many US companies just don't think that way. We've seen that forever but especially recently with meat-packing plants and other similar workplaces not protecting their workers, not creating distance between workers, not providing PPE to them, etc. Really good businesses in the US DO value workers and are profitable as a result (e.g. Costco is one I can think of with decent pay and benefits) but for every Costco or Ben & Jerry's -- there are 100 companies like Wal-Mart that pay too little and offer no health insurance or other benefits unless you're a manager.

[@tomvoid6169]

@@pontus9209 Companies are driven by people and people are stupid. Studies HAVE shown that shorter workdays and no karensdag is better for productivity, as well as the fact that open landscape offices lower productivity, but people are stuck in their ways and only look at the short term effects. The purpose of the people running companies is to maximize profits for a short while and then jump ship when it starts going badly. Ps. Tests in the US among others have shown that universal basic income works, making entire populations more productive and healthy, yet ppl are still against it. As I said, people are stupid and would rather shoot themselves in the foot than risk someone else getting something for nothing.

[@reptilezsweden]

Less hours makes focus easier. Sweden is actually inching (or cm-ing) closer and cloaser to a 30 hour work week :)

[@jayamilapersson4030]

I can now see WHY so many of you have a personal therapist.

[@MrBrutalicus]

To work hard and to work efficient is not the same thing.

[@MagnusFoss]

Thats also true, its estimated that you are only efficient about 4 hours a day. So 12 hours workdays do not make much sense. Its probably counterproductive, a 6 hour workday produce better outcome than a 12 hour workday.

[@MichaalHell]

Ding ding ding.. I wonder how efficient those Wall Street big shoots really are.

[@Romil_un]

@@MagnusFoss yes i heard about one book. Idk name. It is called deliberate. They also said u can only do deliberate work 2 to 4 hr

[@yayaguava3026]

Indeed

[@jamesb118]

@@MagnusFoss It really depends on how motivated you are, as well as your individual disposition. For me, if I’m working 12+ hours/day, I often do better quality work. But only if I’m absorbed in it, which isn’t something I can voluntarily switch on or off.

[@maxysurvivorsucks]

Americans live to work, Swedes work to live.

[@womanofacertainage5892]

Nope. Americans work to survive. The majority of us work and work and work and the cost of medical insurance and deductibles -- combined with the cost of child care and college or trade school - and forget saving for retirement unless you're very well off . . .all of those things take so much of our paychecks. We lack universal medical care and universal child care and just those two things keep lower and middle-income Americans cash-poor while they work their tails off.

[@tobsonj8114]

I often hear that in the usa you earn much like in sweden. Even though we have a high tax here in Sweden, we do not have to save money to be able to be sick, or go to school and get food there, etc. A day should be divided into 1/3 job, 1/3 free time, 1/3 sleep

[@ingerejohansson1118]

True

[@ismaela.6973]

@@womanofacertainage5892 that's what it means to live to work...

[@pickyogum1501]

This is the ordain path of unfettered capitalism. A well balanced socialism capitalism hybrid system is the answer, but the super rich right wingers since FDR has managed to totally marginalized socialism. Today, the avg American recoils at anything that sounds socialistic. Will avg working Americans ever get out of this loser mentality? There are signs things are changing, but not until the generations of Better Dead than Red fades away. Until then, we have a majority of Americans in near destitution. They all know they have to work until they are drop. Such is the end point of capitalism run a muck .

[@karnellschultz6446]

American living in Stockholm here. From my perspective Swedes are chillin at work. I feel like people are not working like they 'need this next paycheck' if you know what I mean. In the States it's like if you don't work, you don't eat. Swedes are worried about how they're going to spend the summer. Love it here.

[@hydnars]

What do you work in (in sweden)?

[@karnellschultz6446]

@@hydnars I work for a fin-tech company.

[@martinastrand1079]

Haha gave me some perspective. I'm usually stressing out how to spend my vacation and weekends 😂

[@stananderson4524]

Recently retired American. It felt like I was working hard to prove my self worth so I could safely keep my job get a promotion raise or bonus, or to get a good recommendation on a resume. You pile on lots of debt to keep up with the latest and greatest and adds to the stress. I look back and of all the most meaningful things that happened in my life during these years. I can't think of many that involved work.

[@teagustavsson]

The reason you get your work permit evoked if you don’t take out enough vacation days is that Sweden doesn’t want their own work force to have an unfair disadvantage to outside work force.

[@joelblom1388]

And also make sure that foreign workers don´t get mistreated

[@teagustavsson]

River Piscean Maybe my English is not good enough to explain it? It’s like this: If companies in Sweden could hire foreign workers and get them Swedish work permits and the foreign workers don’t use their vacation days then companies would prefer foreign workers while Swedes would go unemployed. We wouldn’t compete on the same terms. The Swedish unions have worked hard to get to where we are today with five weeks vacation. We want to keep them.

[@StefanThyron]

The thing is foreign workers still have vacation days just like everyone else. If a Swede wants to work extra and get paid extra they can, so it’s weird that non Swedes can’t do this

[@sandrawinberg7701]

Stefan Thyron I am a swede and I cant do that. I work in a hospital and we must take a minimum of 20 days vacation per year.

[@AntorAntor]

@@StefanThyronHonestly, it's a bit strange that foreign workers would be deported for not using their vacation days, so I wonder if there might be more to the story. They aren't technically the ones at fault as I understand it. An employer in Sweden is bound by law (semesterlagen) to make sure that each and every one of their employees use at least 20 vacation days per year.

[@Larindarr]

I highly recommend a book that just came out called "work won't love you back" and it touches upon this so well and all its roots. Especially for America. It also touches upon the gray areas that are even in Sweden: jobs that ppl dont respect. The arts. I will briefly illustrate it: the hours of the Wallstreet guy are cute compared to studio recording time for artists producers musicans animators engineers. There are many artists in Sweden that i know for a fact have worked themselves to burnout. This is an interesting topic.

[@Jauhl1]

MIght be worth mentioning that Sweden generally have a qualification day (You aren't paid the first day of sickness) to discourage people from staying home from hangovers or whatnot. One of the features discontinued for greater corona regulation compliance though.

[@MLennholm]

Also, you only get paid 80% of your normal salary while on sick-leave. The qualification day isn't really discontinued, it's still there, you just get compensated for it. However, you only get 804 SEK so unless you make 21k SEK/month or less you're still losing money.

[@johannaforzelius9666]

Great video! Just want to point out that even though a lot of jobs manage to cut down on work hours there are still a lot of people in sweden who are working just as hard as people overseas. A family member of mine works as a doctor in a general practice. His work hours are supposed to be 8-17, but in real life looks more like 6-19. And maybe some hours on the weekend as well if he hasn't been able to keep up with paperwork. And nurses and healthcare workers works way harder than anyone should ask if them, especially in these times. Just because rules and regulations are in place doesn't mean that all is sunshine and rainbows. But I do agree that striving for a healthy work/life-balance is a really good thing.

[@StefanThyron]

Well said. In addition, many doctors in America have to be ‘on call’ where they can never fully relax in case of an emergency. Not sure what that looks like here in Sweden.

[@johannaforzelius9666]

@@StefanThyron They do it here to. How much and how often you have to do it depends on what field you're in. If you're a gp then it's not that bad. My dad switched fields du to this. 1 in 3 weekends was the offer from the hospital position.

[@InternationalFeds]

Yes, Swedes tend to leave work earlier than in other countries, but I noticed that they also often tend to start work earlier as well...

[@haalloondricka]

To me, the song "9 to 5" (Dolly Parton) has always seemed strange. When I was a kid, my parents would drive to work around 7 in the morning whilst school didn't start until 8, and then they'd be home around 16 (4 pm). Also, depending on your job of course, you can leave work earlier, and if necessary do some work at home. But in the US, when does the work day usually start?

[@blueeyedbaer]

Yes. My work oficially starts at 7:45 but I come at 7:20-7:25 and do some work before the official start. I also have a 45 minute long lunch break but I usually eat for only 30 minutes. In that way I can finish my work before 16:00 and since it takes only 10 minutes to get home I can enjoy a long afternoon off work.

[@MagnusFoss]

Im cofounder of my company, Im typically at the office at 7.30 am and I leave at 3 pm most days.

[@northwestgirl930]

9-5 is terrible. Shift workers know the truth. 5-1 is better, you still work 8 hours, but you get to enjoy the rest of the day.

[@69raisinswhy]

@@northwestgirl930 my mom used to leave work at 6 pm because she didn’t like getting up early. 5 am is way to early to start work, what are you even going to do the entire day when you get off work at 1 pm?

[@bjorneriksson2404]

About the vacation deportation - this is one of the regulations regarding foreign workers that drives you crazy. As others have stated, there are regulations in place to keep employers from exploiting foreign workers, but the enforcement of the regulations is extremely strict and rigid, to the extent that it sometimes punishes the worker instead of the employer. There have been cases where some minimum salary has been changed and the employer failed to notice at first, so the employee got paid a tiny bit too little for a month or three before the employer corrected the mistake and gave them the missing amount retroactively (we're talking a few bucks in total). Then later on, maybe years later when the worker has perhaps even changed employer or is running their own business, they are deported when that tiny mistake is discovered by some immigration authority. It's happened to people who's been living in Sweden for over a decade. So they deport people for no mistake of their own, people who are working and paying taxes. Just... crazy.

[@carlmelander6653]

Yeah that is supprisive and not okay by the government for sure.

[@amemabastet9055]

While other foreigners seems to be able to engage in all sorts of criminal and/or violent activity without even going to jail, let alone being exiled. Current problem. There are no more slots in the prison system for newly convicted. They may roam the nation for at least 100 days before having to report to the prison to be let in. It really is just crazy.

[@jabkossuth6945]

First of all. When you are sick you get a deduction of you salary. First day of sickness you get 100% off and for the remaining days you will get a deduction of 20% every day. IE if you are sick 5 days you get an deduction of 1,8 days. About "klämdagar" you DONT get them for free. You will have to work for it. So instead of working 8 hours per day you work for about 8 h 10 m.(i do not know the exact ratio) (the "klämdagar" are spread among all other days.) Most workplaces have "FLEX" wich mean i can go home when i want (in certain condition depending on the workplace). Then you will have to work back those hours another day. So if i go home at 3 o'clock i get 1,5 hour "undertime" and have to work extra to cancel them. About summertime. Most places you work longer during winter. So with all those strange things you talk about, in the end, your total worktime should be 40h/week. Generall speaking.(there are some special workplaces with special rules but for the majority in sweden it is always 40h/week)

[@Shiva182Katarina]

karensdagen finns inte längre. Det är karensavdrag nu, så du får betalt första dagen du är sjuk

[@jabkossuth6945]

@@Shiva182Katarina Sant att det heter avdrag. Skillnaden är dock för de som har timanställning, de får betalt första dagen.Har du månadslön är det ingen reell skillnad. Du får fortfarande avdrag för första sjukdagen oavsett antal dagar du är sjuk. (hela dagar)

[@ExbotHero]

Our system is built around the idea of "folkhemmet". It´s a bit hard to translate but basically, it means a society where everybody can live well no matter who you are and what you do. Everybody has a good standard of living. Can make ends meet and work (at most) one job (35-40 hours per week.) Free universal health care. Free medication. Fre higher education and so on. Historically this came about due to the fact that we had strong unions who fought hard to create this system. Together with the political party, they had close contact with (Socialdemokraterna a.k.a. Social democracy party). Similar to the people's party or the left-wing of the democratic party. The progressive movement. (In USA). Bernie Sanders and AOC are other examples of people who come from the same type of ideology. One really important part of our history goes under the name of how we learned to compromise. Whats made this possible was something called "Saltsjöbadsandan" The spirit of Saltsjöbaden" (Named after the first big deal between the union and the employers' organizations, 1938.) This was the place and the time when they (after a long period of hard fights, where they finally decided to do what has come to be known as the Swedish model.) Two years of negotiation where they decided to always find a common ground and compromise to create the best solution for both parties. No more strikes and firing. Instead one big negotiation every year + local ones from that framework and calm periods in between. Basically the system we still have today. (Remember: This was in a time when many countries had really big problems that treatment not only the workers but also the employer's safety.) Wild strikes, no safety for the workers, and social inequality as the main result. The Swedish willingness to compromise and to accept and respect the other side's option and to separate us as individuals from the opinions without hate after a discussion. All of these steems from this period. We have learned that everybody always wins in the long run if we compromise. The other side isn't our enemy it's our counterpart, striving for a common goal. (From a different point of view.) Instead of; What's the best solution for me we got; What's the best solution for all of us!

[@72strand]

Det du skriver stämmer inte. Svenskar och myndigheter har inte individens bästa för ögonen. Exempel. Kommuner behöver enligt lag inte ge dig en bostad, de behöver inte ge dig socialbidrag. Det finns inga universella bidrag som du kan få om du är arbetslös. Om jag skriver in min på AF får jag inga bidrag. Om jag är sjuk kan jag nekas att bli sjukskriven. osv. Människor i Sverige skiter i andra människor, det är så det är.

[@ExbotHero]

@@72strand Du få¨r skilja på äpplen och päron. Först och främst så har du fel om fakta. Uppfyller du VILLKOREN får du stöd men självklart får du INTE stöd om du inte gör det! (Menar du att man skall få allt utan minsta motkrav eller vad?!) Att sedan FK blivit hårdare och ger avslag när vissa är sjukskrivna är en skandal. (Men inte omöjligt att rätta till.) Dels skall ALLA som drabbas överklaga (och de blir de facto berättigade till SOCIALBIDRAG om de inte har andra inkomster under tiden och dels så finns det faktiskt partier (samt delar av andra partier) som med näbbar och klor bekämpar dessa åtstramningar. Vänsterpartiet och de som går under beteckningen vänstersossar utgör här de främsta som står upp för vårt socialförsäkringssystem och tar strid mot de fel som sker. Inget av detta innebär som du påstår att jag har fel och att människor skiter i andra människor. Visst. Röstar du på M, KD, SD, C eller L så tillhör du säkerligen gruppen som skiter i alla andra, men är du vänstersosse, röstar på vänsterpartiet eller MP eller tom. tillhör minoriteten i C och L som är starkt socialliberala så står alla dessa upp för det svenska systemet och kämpar ganska framgångsrikt även om vi sett försämringar. Det folk som du inte tycks inse är att om man med ena handen röstar på Alliansen (eller stödjer deras budgetar) som SD alltid gjort så godkänner man att det tas 150 miljarder PER ÅR från vår välfärd. Pengar som går till jobbskatte (bidrag) avdrag, RUT, TOT samt avskaffande av förmögenhetsskatten etc. Väljer man detta vägval så MÅSTE de som sitter i regeringen spara på ALLA områden och då stramar de åt med förhoppning att ev. fuskare skall drabbas och övriga som verkligen behöver skall överklaga och få det de behöver ändå. Problemet med den logiken är ju ganska uppenbar. De som är sjukast tillhör ju också gruppen med minst förmåga och ork att driva en överklagan i rätten. (Mitt tips är änså att de gör det då i princip alla som har rätt enligt regelverket också vinner i rätten.) Det jag beskrev på engelska var det historiska upplägget på det svenska välfärdssamhället. Det var 100 % korrekt. Att det naggas i kanten och försämras stavas Alliansen, SD, privatiseringar och högersossar som drivit en politik (som i vart fall högersossarna själva inte ens ville skulle få detta resultat.) Så nej, du har fel. Folk skiter inte i varandra i Sverige men vi har olika samhällssyn hur vi uppnår ungefär samma mål. Borgarna och SD anser att alla som inte jobbar är potentiella smitare och därför skall ha så låg ersättning som möjligt (piska och morot) men inte ens de menar att vårt system skall avvecklas. S, V och MP vill i praktiken ha kvar och tom. höja ersättningsnivåerna samt införa ännu fler reformer (som fri tandvård etc.) men har inte majoriteten att genomföra detta utan tvingas kompromissa med partier som har motsatt samhällssyn, vilket naturligtvis gör att det blir problem. Så återigen, du har fel, men jag köper att du är besviken. Inte heller jag är nöjd av hur systemet misshandlats de senaste 15-20 åren.

[@72strand]

@@ExbotHero Det verkar bra att du är öppen för att lära(hoppas). Varje liten fråga har många argument på båda sidor. För och emot. Det vi kan göra är att ta någon lite fråga där vi inte har hört alla fakta och prata om. Min erfarenhet av att tala med vänstern är dock att vid minsta lilla sak som jag kan bevisa för dem. Så slutar de omedelbart att skriva. För det är smärtsamt att ha fel, och att kanske behöva omvärdera. Jag var vänster och är nu höger vad nu det betyder. Jag kan nog svara på alla dina frågor. Så få mer kött på benen. Låter det ok?

[@ExbotHero]

@@72strand Vi kan säkert ha en trevlig debatt. Är själv det som brukar kallas vänstersosse (m.a.o. inte socialdemokrat längre.) Men har många vänner i de flesta politiska läger. Om jag skulle dra min egen grundsyn är den enkel. De som tror på en ideologi, står upp för den och driver en politik utifrån den är bra mycket lättare att respektera än folk som byter ideologi (utan att byta parti.) M.a.o. inget fel att ändra åsikt om man gör en annan analys, men fullständigt bakvänt att t.ex. vara socialdemokrat och skryta över att de stoppade klasskampen, införde privatiseringar, RUT och ROT avdrag samt numera anser att det är bra med så snålt socialförsäkringssystem som möjligt då detta enligt dom är den nya socialdemokratiska arbetslinjen. (Läs, Att vara som Mona Sahlin + många andra i den partitoppen som funnits i partiet sedan slutet på 90-talet.) Själv tror jag på ett rubust och tryggt socialförsäkringssystem samt på individernas egna fria vilja att återvända till yrkesarbete så fort de har hälsa att klara av det. (Lite motsatsen till mångas syn på folket i gemen när åsikten kommer från högerkanten.) Där tycks de tro att folk fuskar bara för att just de själva fuskar så fort de har chansen. (Du får ursäkta den ironiska piken) men så ser min erfarenhet ut oavsett om det rör högersossar eller andra borgare som tycker till om vanligt folk och det sk. utbredda fusk de påstår förekommer. Minns såväl en beryktad utredning Alliansen lade fram på detta tema. Den påstod att det försvann 20 miljarder per år i bidragsfusk. Det märkliga. Inte en enda forskare ansåg att det ens fanns belägg för 5 % av den "hitta på summan". Med facit i hand visade det ju sig att hela insatsen att stoppa fusk gick med gigantisk förlust då det mycket riktigt bara handlade om 1-2 % fusk och insatsen (jakten på fuskarna) faktiskt kostade bra mycket mer än de fick in den vägen. Trist nog blev det dock en bra besparingskälla då de samtidigt som del av insatsen tvingade ner alla ersättningsnivåer till rena bottennivåerna och dessutom gjorde det svårare att ens få dem även om man var berättigad. För mig som befinner sig på vänsterkanten så var detta dels ett ideologiskt angrepp på vårt trygghetssystem och dels ett stort svek mot de svagaste som alla politiker visste var helt ofarligt då dessa svaga grupper aldrig påverkar en valutgång. P.S Skriver med mobilen, orkar inte rätta de ord den ändrar (jag ej ser på den lilla skärmen att de blir felstavade) etc. men hoppas det gick att förstå ändå. Mvh Morgan

[@72strand]

@@ExbotHero Hej, ja blir bra. Har du något som du direkt vill fråga om, t ex en enskild fråga som högern eller SD driver och som du vill veta mera om?

[@danhanqvist4237]

The July thing... It's not nearly as closed down as it used to be. It's common to take the brunt of your holidays in the summer because of the climate. It's important that people are out and about when there is actually a bit of sun; otherwise they'll be ill in the winter and work less. That's also why you are entitled to three of your weeks in the summer.

[@johnnyrosenberg9522]

My experience of ”klämdagar” is that you are not given them. You are just moving hours. For instance, if you are supposed to work 8 hours a day, you will work 8.2 hours each day, so when the next klämdag happens, you already worked those hours. It's like those extra vacation money you get when you are on a vacation. Those are your own money, they were just saved for your vacation, kind of.

[@qweek]

And my experience from working in the IT industry is that we work less than 40 hours per week and still get our klämdagar.

[@hellowan93]

I see Stefan uploads, I clicked and liked 😎

[@StefanThyron]

😍🙌🏼

[@evalevyrealtor1]

I lived in Sweden from 1-5 and don't really remember it but deep inside I have this warm feeling towards the country... after watching your video... Let's all move to Sweden :-) :-) :-) I'll move back!

[@SBrage]

I do follow your posts on KZbin Stefan, it's very spot on and insightful. I have done the reversed journey, living in Sweden for 50+ years, and 4 years ago moved to US Regarding the work environment Sweden vs US: - In Sweden we did have more vacation days, preferably taken in July when the weather is nice But, we didn't have the "personal holidays" that adds apprx a week to the yearly time off - Sick days in Sweden: your get around 80% salary when being sick, in the US you get full pay for being off for the first XX days After a few days you'd need a doctor's note, same in Sweden and US Summarizing, social benefits differs a bit When it comes to work/life balance, it's basically not a big difference In the US employees spread their time off during the year, in Europe there is a tendency to gather it to summer months

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

A study a couple of years ago found that Americans go to work for longer, but their time/work efficiency was through the floor, in other words the employees got "burned out" and just goofed off or didn't work effectively. I.e: They spent a ton of time at work but only actually working a small amount of the time.

[@herkcollins4263]

It's good for me, to know that there's a place that exists where your work is appreciated without knocking yourself out and destroying yourself.Keep the great videos coming, I plan to move to Sweden and you're helping me learn. Thank you : )

[@JohanYlinenjarvi]

I think Americans would work less if they made a living wage working 40-45h/week

[@womanofacertainage5892]

Amen.

[@witchfromthenorth5294]

Exactly!

[@Cod4Wii]

AGREED

[@witchfromthenorth5294]

fredrik hurtig effective and work more hour is not the same thing

[@skogslyckligl3488]

Ett hushåll i sverige med två vuxna arbetar också 80 timmar.

[@erske]

I live and work in Sweden and Asia. In Sweden I do 5 days per week 6-10 hours per day. In Asia I do 6 days per week 10 - 14 hours per day. And Im pretty sure the locals dont have sick days at all.

[@samueld6511]

Stats: Average workweek: Sweden 39.0 hours. Percent working over 50 hours per week: 1.1% USA: 41.5hours 11.1% Some other: France: 38.9 7.7% Finland: 39.3 3.8% Norway: 38.0 2.9% Denmark (best) 37.2 2.3% Germany: 39.5 4.3% Switzerland: 40.5 0.4% UK 41.8 12.2% Australia 41.8 13.0% Mexico: 48.5 28.7%

[@kizombahot4u39]

Samuel D In Norway its 37,5 hours week

[@evaverngren9681]

Interesting statistics.👍

[@datarecoverysweden]

As a Swedish company, we have a great system and approach to balancing work and family life.

[@womanofacertainage5892]

I agree 100% that the quality of life in Sweden surpasses that --- for 90%+ of Americans. Sure, if you're mega-wealthy from inherited money or something, maybe America has more to offer you. But for the vast majority of Americans, paying higher taxes (so we have a universal, single-payer healthcare system, universal child care, low to no-cost college or trade schools, etc.) and getting an overall much higher quality of life, and the ability to lead a healthier life, would be worth it.

[@lenasoderberg4653]

and at a lower cost.

[@adamcorfman573]

Another sense is we already pay more expensive taxes with health insurance, healthcare copays, rent, etc. If we don't pay them, the consequences are just as dire as not paying taxes, so in a sense, those base expenses are a tax. And like Lena says: we'd be paying less overall with the policies that you mention.

[@womanofacertainage5892]

@@adamcorfman573 Correct!

[@tigerchuu2148]

As a Sweden I never noticed any dips in services in July because I am on vacation anyways like most other people haha

[@adriananana.7948]

Wow, what an interesting video, I’m very surprised. America it’s work work work. But I think it makes it competitive and also gives you freedom to get more money if you want.

[@anitaandersson1825]

We have many workplaces where employees work very long working days just as you describe in the US. With an 80-hour work week, and where the work does not necessarily end just because you have come home or it is a weekend. Do not know any workplace where you can go home at 3 in the afternoon both summer and winter. Maybe it is a workplace in that case with a slightly freer type of job, where you can work from home or from a café, but that is not common. It will be a bit wrong, if you describe it as if it were standard in Swedish workplaces

[@MrBiggmartin]

The only thing that matters is the value of goods and services you produce per hour over the year and Swedes are quite high up in that list.

[@AbigailSuhruMini]

I actually know 2 people that have been deported for not using Vacation days. But I agree with their concept of having sufficient rest. It’s nice 🧸

[@victoriaapodaca2497]

My absolute dream is to work for Kobalt Music in Stockholm

[@mattiaseriksson4672]

I have lived and worked in the US and i definitely prefer the Swedish way.

[@mariaterling5899]

It sounds like we barely work at all here in Sweden haha. We do work a lot, and many people work late and have a very stressfull jobs. Though we do often have flexible hours and yes we have looong vacation. So when we have a lot to do many work like 7am to 11 pm but when we dont have a lot to do we can leave early or take what we call flex hours ( when you work overtime you write how many hours plus you have and you can use theese when you want a day of or leave early). Not everyone has this though. So when you have a lot to do we work alot but when we dont, we dont work as much...

[@underflip2]

America is absolutely terrible when it comes to works IMO. It feels like Americans live to work while in Europe we work to live. Life quality and personal time is really important. I rather work less than get more pay

[@farcuf]

Crazy thing is that often times they don't even get paid a living wage.

[@reym7140]

@@farcuf As far as i know wages in US are higher on average than in Sweden and most of Europe, except richest countries like Norway and Luxemburg and prices are often lower, except some services, healthcare etc

[@l1nus0nl1neproductions9]

Pardon me for asking but i'm curious, have You read ”Utvandrarna” av Wilhelm Moberg?

[@poledra1980]

What was your point? That Sweden had a problem in the 1800s where this system wasn’t in place and there was no social safety net to carry you through crop failures and extreme winters? Not exactly a steady stream of people emigrating from the nordic countries to the US nowadays (and many return when it’s time to start a family and work-life balance and parental leave suddenly looks pretty good)...

[@lennartolsson8184]

How efficient are you if you work 60, 70 or 80 hours a week? The quality of the product etc? A tired American is not a good working American

[@NegativeAccelerate]

Indeed. I’m not working yet, but I got depressed age 14 because I was pushed too hard. When I was depressed, I consistently never made top 100 in maths competitions. This is strange because before and after the depression I could easily make top 10 in my country with no study. If Your employees are depressed, your workers are gonna be shit. Making them work 80 hour weeks makes your employees depressed. Having time to exercise, eat properly, hang out with friends and family cured my depression and made me so much better in school and maths competitions even though I work less hours.

[@Sapphireia]

I'm a Swede working in China. My standard hours are 9:30am-7pm. With commute and overtime (unpaid), I usually get home at around 9pm. I have Chinese holidays off and 5 paid vacation days per year. It's fine for me at the moment but I couldn't imagine starting a family here with hours like this.

[@chelseacharger]

They've struck a good balance as well as taking into account the climate and daylight hours of the country. Other European countries like Spain also have their own way of doing things, siesta, late meals and drinks, etc to live with the hot weather.

[@frankvanhooft3927]

What’s interesting is productivity compared to hours worked, this gives a different picture than you give. Work / life balance seems to contribute to higher productivity per hour worked.

[@Damalatorian]

Regarding the sickness it's common in many jobs in Sweden that you'll get one day without salary and the rest of the days with a reduction of salary (about 80%) during the days you're ill. After some time you'll have to provide a paper from the hospital that comfirms that you're ill -but most common is that the workplace see that if you're sick then you are sick and need to get well. The HR deparpment need a "proof" that you are sick when it goes longer than 5 work days and you need to provide a checkup from the hospital (etc) that shows that you're ill... However our rules have changed during the corona situation that if you're sick you just stay home. If you feel fine you'll still have to stay home for at least two days before returning to work -and you don't need to provide papers that you're sick even if longer than 5 days. For myself I have a job that don't require me to be at the office so I've been working from home for months now and even if I'm feeling a bit down I can still work without risking my colleagues health. I think it's a good system... :) But regarding the vacation I tend to take about three weeks of vacation during the summer and then take the extra two spread out during the rest o the year around christmas and the earster.

[@wahaha6961]

Then there's also friskvårdsbidrag, but I feel like you've covered that before. Just mentioning it cuz it weaves into the work-life balance imo 👍

[@enkidu77]

If you don't take 5 weeks vacation, you can save what you have left for later time or even years! If you never take them as vacation, they will pay money instead which is great. BTW, @stefan you can also talk about the parental leave, shorter or longer sick leave, also about VAB (when you take care of sick child) or taking care of older parents, all these things are paid! Unemployment compensation as well.

[@yiweisun4449]

Hi, I really really like this video!!! And I want to talk about the Chinese work- life situation. What is it like to live in China after living 4 and a half years in Spain? Work, work, work ... Noise, noise, noise ... Traffic jam, traffic jam, traffic jam ... Stress, stress…. Alone. Goodbye, Madrid. (crying on the subway to Madrid-Barajas airport) Hello, Beijing. It's very weird, right? A Chinese woman feels very lonely in her own country and suffers from depression. Well that girl is me. (It was never embarrassing to admit that I was depressed.) Who am I? Well, I am a "weird" girl, like a volcano, like a cat, like a super happy goat ... and, in fact, I don't know who I am, I always have that question, Who am I? ? Well, let's get back to the point, why did I return to China after living so many years in Spain? (... and also, it is a magnificent country, which taught me what life is, what empathy is, and what love is ...) Well, the answer is very simple, it is for work. After I graduated from my master, I had a very good opportunity to work for a larger mobile company in China. And that work was sent to Latin American countries. As I am a girl who likes to explore new things, so that opportunity for me was great. (* I mean fucking mother ...). At the time, I thought I was the luckiest and happiest person in the world. But I guessed the beginning but not the end. The result is, that gigantic company told me and other interviewees that the positions you were applying for no longer existed ... and at that time, I did not have a visa to continue working in Spain because I rejected some Madrid companies. And from that moment on, I had a very serious depression. I started to doubt myself. Who I am? Who I am? Who I am? (At that time, my best friends in the world had helped me a lot to cheer me up, thank you very much !!! my loves, really.) And so, I took the plane to my homeland ... I don't want to say that living in China is a horrible thing, but just in my case, I'm not happy living in that society (especially in Beijing) so stressed, nervous ... but for many people , they love living in China (Beijing). Now I am going to describe how my normal day is: every day I get up around 7:30, and at 8:30 I have to go to catch the bus to the office, around 9:40 I arrive at the company (here I want you comment something, well, look, normally from my house to the office, taking the bus only takes about 10 minutes to get there, but because of that bad traffic jam, every day I need an hour and ten minutes to get there, and that makes me feel very tired and nervous). This is not over, do you know what time I get off work? Normally between 8:00 pm, 8:30 pm or 9:15 pm, and on top of that I have to work every month twice on Saturday ... in China that type of work is called 996. And if unfortunately you are ill, go to the hospital to leave, the company would withhold your salary. Some colleagues work overtime, but they don't pay the fucking company a penny. And that's the status quo for Chinese companies. And Eos makes me very ashamed, because I don't see anything of human nature and social empathy. And the only thing that makes me feel better in that city is learning languages, Spanish, English and French, which makes me feel alive. Because I don't want to get into that society one millimeter. Because I don't see human nature. What I see is how everyone turns into robots and nobody resisted. Nobody from that society is going to say that, because they are afraid of losing their job or other things, so I will be the first to eat tomatoes, I will defend myself! Believe in what you want and fight to make it possible.

[@Treety1791]

There’s a good saying that is “don’t work hard, work smart”. That being said, and I’m sure it has been commented already, 6 hour days can be more efficient than 8 hour days at work. Studies have shown that people working 6 hours instead of 8 actually does work more in effective time. As you know, the Fika in Sweden is quite ridiculous and everyone is running for coffee every 1-2 hours, stopping my the colleagues office or station talking smack for 5-10 minutes here and there. That’s more common at a 8-hour day than the 6. I also think having the work/life-balance is also a something that benefits the employer just as much as the employee. Which is why most people in Sweden also has about 2000kr to spend on “healthcare” but meaning like getting a massage, gym membership or the tennis club fee as an example. It allows the employee to work out and stay healthy meaning less sick days which results in more gross profit for the company. That being said, unfortunately I do also believe that the younger generations are exploiting the system more so now than ever. My grandfather worked between 16-65 years of age and had a total of 6 sick days. Now 6 days is almost common to be sick at one occasion. I just think the good old work ethic that some still does have and gets from their parents are going away with the vast majority of younger people.

[@MrDanAng1]

I think work like waitress/waiter, working in the counter in a shop or something like that earn you a living income in Sweden, but not in the US. In the US many people have two or even three minimum wage incomes, just to scrape by. That will accumulate hours.

[@AmbiCahira]

I'm happy for you to have found people next door that can relate to your culture! That's priceless. ^^ Say, I thought of something I think might be another Swe/US culture difference that potentially could be fun for you to ask around about maybe although it's a small thing, I don't know but thought I'd pitch it in case you'd find it intriguing. When we were in like preschool and such there was an hour of the day where we had fruktstund which kind of is like a kafferast but the children eat fruit. I thought of it today and I was wondering what US relation to healthier options would be if there was a similar kind of culture of normalizing for example fruit. A few of my friends said "I'm so bad at eating fruit" and for a moment that sounded so odd to me and I suspect maybe it tied down to this little structure habit in a young age. I don't know if it's still happening now but I don't see why it would go away since I was a kid. In my preschool classroom there even was a compost for the fruit peel so we got to see worms digest the peels as a learning experience through glass and an open top. I'm sure it wasn't common for everyone but I liked it. :) If you mention fruktstund to a Swede though most of them might be hit with nostalgia and fondness because it was a highlight of the day. ^^

[@annikaerf]

Thanx for a wonderful recall!

[@Cloud_Seeker]

I just want to clarify a few things. In Sweden you are not just taking sick days and no one care. The person that should care is you because if you are sick for a day, you are not being paid for that day. Here is how the system work: - If you are sick between 1-14 days you get a very big decrease in your salary as you are not working during that time. During this amount of time the corporation still pay for your salary. - I believe the first day of sickness do not have to be paid at all. Or it has to be paid in full and everything after that do not have to be paid as much. - If you are sick for longer amount of time you are forced to register that to a government institution called "Försäkringskassan". You then have to provide proof of your sickness with a doctors note. You will then get compensation that is a small amount of your normal salary. The corporation is no longer forced to pay your salary so may the gods be with you when you have go into the bureaucratic jungle called Försäkringskassan. If you mess something up because you are sick have fun not getting anything at all. Basically. If you get sick, you get less in the pay check. I know that it isn't as simple as taking some days off because I been in that second part. When I got my job back in 2016 I got double pneumonia just a few weeks after starting for real and was sick for 3.5 weeks after. The coughing lasted for another 6 months before I got help to fix it. I blame the plague bearer called "children". I visit a lot of schools as part of my work.

[@w0t3rdog]

An interesting thing to consider; Take a countrys GDP, and divide it by avarage work hours per person per year for that country... most countries with stricter work-life balance are more effective than countries that work more.

[@JonasVersen]

Never worked in a place where employeers give you the day off on klämdagar (or heard about it) . Typically people use their vacation days on those occasions.

[@01joja]

Just so you know. You can have about 7 sick periods in Sweden during a year. If you have more, your employer must contact Försäkringskassan and you may need a doctor's note before you apply for sick days again.

[@andreasjohansson2339]

I am also an American living in Stockholm with my Swedish husband. It took me a while to fully understand that I could stay home if I were sick without the fear of being fired from my job.

[@jayamilapersson4030]

I hope that the USA Will make a change in this thinking due to Covid. Im just imagine ppl going to work sick because they dont want to lose their job spreading the disease to others. Like we in Sweden dont want sick ppl at work.

[@michaelamneus9997]

Such insightful thoughts. Michael ,Gothenburg

[@larstenfaelt1859]

Minimum in Sweden is 5 weeks+ 2 days... There is also a rule that you need to take at least 3 weeks but think this is a bit flexible if there is a need. The employee has all the right to take out 3 consecutive weeks during the period June-August..

[@solveigjansson8613]

Maybe young people you know have different habits than me, but i have always had a good time with my neibors and so have my parents, and they live in a small town. When they built their house, others who did the same, at once started to hang out and they still do after 50 years. So it is not a strange thing for swedes to hang out with their neibors !

[@mikaelwadstrom5725]

Just a fact for you to ponder on: apart from rights to 5 weeks played vacation the worktime law in Sweden stipulate 40 hour weeks. On top of that the law allows the employer to demand 25 hrs overtime per month. So if you are working less than that, it’s up to your employer. Unless the employee ”steals” time from his employer. And as for ”klämdag” in my working lifetime experience, I had to add overtime hours to compensate for being free on a ”klämdag”...or any other working day I wanted to be free.

[@eliasmediator]

Exceptional presentation thank you!

[@markomanaskov9669]

Great and objective insight's about Sweden. Keep going Stefan

[@learningoutwild9844]

I think I am moving to Sweden 👍

[@Janizzary]

Me: We should apply what the Nordic countries do in the US to improve our quality of life. American: If you don't like America, then leave!

[@deepsleep7822]

@OA: I agree with you. Unfortunately, some people in America don't have the same work ethic as those in Sweden. I'd suspect there are some slackers in Sweden as well but FAR fewer then there are in America.

[@cagnazzo82]

@@deepsleep7822 You think Americans don't have work ethic? Lol, all people do is work themselves to death in America. I think it's very much the opposite.

[@apefu]

I am a Swede, and I like the work/life balance. But I kind of disapprove the work attitude a lot of swedes have. Having worked in startups, both here and abroad, I can say it could definitely be worse (Italy, parts of Spain) but it is still frustrating when you need to communicate urgency. Swedes can talk like they understand urgency - but then suddenly "Bye, I'll leave early today - have some things to do at home". Or even worse a surprise vacation. Or taking fika breaks that lasts for ever. I am all for long fika breaks (it usually helps in other ways) - but not when the house is on fire. This gets even worse at scale, like big companies or government agencies. I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this, that's OK. I get that at work too :)

[@apefu]

I guess this irks me since I am not that way, at all. Yes, I am a former workaholic. But these days I just want work to flow and disruptions to be managed. I love my time off :)

[@keithford245]

The Scandinavian model is certainly preferable. Stress related illnesses are a big problem in the USA. I would advise young people to move to Europe.

[@catrin9540]

Du har sett för lite av Sverige och svenskarna märker jag.😊 Att umgås med sina grannar är inte något som är konstigt i Sverige. Jag har alltid hejat på mina grannar och de har hejat på mig. Jag pratar med okända på pendeln, bussen och tåget lite då och då. Ingen tittar konstigt på mig. Svenskar är säkerligen inte så öppna som amerikaner men vi är inte totalt osociala. 😊

[@Mirvra]

Han bor ju i Stockholm. Inte konstigt att han tror alla Svenskar ignorerar sina grannar när han bor i snobbiga Stockholm istället för goa Göteborg. 😋

[@torebelthoft4471]

I`m norwegian and we have the same conditions. The big difference between Scandinavia and USA when it comes to work is that we work to live while americans live to work

[@AshleyZieman]

Ha i am swedish and work in retail, I work til 8pm sometimes because we are starting to fallow the American system, before we used to close at 6pm at the latest. So not everyone gets off at 3pm.

[@Ben-bg1dn]

To be honest, 70-90h work weeks are not uncommon in finance in Stockholm

[@KamiKaZantA]

Crazy work hours is pretty job dependant. My mom dated a former bank boss, and while his staff worked 9-17, he had to start work at 7, stop working at 17, go home and have a shower and change clothes, and then 18-24 he was having dinners with business clients. And this was his routine mon-fri, sometimes during the weekends as well.

[@KamiKaZantA]

@@yahyam7619 Va?

[@ronnylindell7955]

He had a lover.....

[@KamiKaZantA]

@@ronnylindell7955 I wrote -former- bank boss.

[@ronnylindell7955]

@@KamiKaZantA I wrote had.....

[@KamiKaZantA]

@@ronnylindell7955 They were both seniors when they dated, for fuck sake.

[@CleverNameTBD]

Considering I work 40-60 hrs/wk or more as an engineer on salary, meaning I get no overtime pay (just overtime), this sounds wonderful. I have family in Skåne and Dalarna. Maybe I'll ask them for some help with work. ;)

[@pontus9209]

I really think there is something wrong with one of these two: 1. The economic system in general, 2. Your private economy; if you can't even take a few days extra off when you are really sick because you are afraid of bankruptcy.

[@farcuf]

Maybe it's the princely US Federal Minimum Wage of $7.25, per hour?!?

[@attesmatte]

You can also loose your job if you have a crappy employer. That's one reason why many people go to work sick in the US. 😕

[@X15HS]

I wonder how long does the man who used to work at Wall Street work now in Sweden? as a finance graduate I'm expected to work for more than 80 hours a week (which is normal in this industry) also I'm planing for taking a charter in the field which means I have to study approximately 2 hours daily. basically, I won't have a life for the next 2 years :) By the way, I like your videos.

[@davidnarella1272]

I am swedish and live in Göteborg

[@ghanikhawaja9769]

I think the working culture is pretty far more relaxed in sweden🇸🇪 than in America🇺🇲 I usually get 25 days paid vacation yearly from my employer. We have something called collective agreement in sweden🇸🇪

[@Macovic]

Being closest to the North pole, the Scandinavian countries (except from Danmark), Russia and northernmost Canada (and Alaska) will likely suffer the most from lack of sunlight during the autumn and winter. The more maritime climate in Scandinavia will make it worse because of periods of no snow (equals a darker environment). The effect is an almost permanent fatique. During parts of the year it is dark when you go to work and dark when you get off. I also believe that discipline is more rewarded in the USA and that there are less work in Sweden. I also believe it is close to impossible to get work in Sweden without a degree. You can of course employ yourself but the market is very small since population is tiny. I should also add there is big focus on different aspescts of social equlity like between men and women, concerning being able to work with what you like, both men and women working equally hours and both staying home with the children when young. There are basically 480 days per child to share between the parents.

[@mabeycookies3726]

that think about go home at 3 in the summer and winter is bs. Lived in Sweden my intire life and have never heard about that??

[@MichaelQing]

At the behest of the government in Stockholm, a 20-page brochure was sent to all households in Sweden in May 2018. The content of the pamphlet provides instructions to local citizens and what they can do in case of an armed conflict. To understand what Swedish policymakers are preparing for, we need to analyze the geopolitics of Sweden from EU access to expanding military organization to cyberspace security and Finland alliance. More details right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYK3ZaikoNRlapo

[@HenrikJanssonFilipstad]

I have 37,5 hur work week. Six weeks of vacation and allot of 'klämdagar' feels like I don't work one full week during spring time, since there are allot of hollidays then. Like Kristi himmelsfärd dag, I only work Monday and Tuesday, then the rest of the week off, anorher word for 'klämdag' is 'arbetstidsförkortning ' 😉 negotiated by the unions.

[@RobinHelsing]

To work harder is not equal to more hours of work. Have you seen American Factory on netflix? Strongly recommend it!

[@thormichaelpleym4975]

Well, you always have to ask yourself this question. Do I live to work, or do I work to live? Simple question. As a Swede I will never see work as the reason for living, I see it as a thing I need to do for having a reasonble living. That said I ofc praises the men and women that give their lifes for their work. That is a hounor to mankind and the things we all have benefits of. In that regard you Americans are in the lead. / Micke P

[@Romil_un]

Hey stefan i found out amazing thing. After silicon vally Stockholm is second at innovation and entrepreneurship. If we think what stop anyone to start their own business? Risk. For example in usa Healthcare is attached to job / employers. So if they leave job they would be empty. They would be in risk. To lose Healthcare and money too. But in Sweden it is tied directly to government so peoples have backbon to take risks. Because it is tied to government it is really strong. I heard alot like in usa they designed washing machine in way so clothes become useless after sometimes. Honestly consumerism is bad. It is circle. U go to work u think let me work more hours , hard so i can earn money then i can buy clothes, shoes and etc... And u keep buying. I heard from one youtuber who lives in Netherlands and she is dutch. And u get tax of 22 to 23% in Sweden if u r businessman. Corporate tax low. Just like usa

[@hansj5846]

Americans call it "work hard". We call it exploitation or slavery. Nobody thinks to themselves as they are dieing "should've spend more time at the office"

[@aidamesa8046]

That's why I moved to Europe. Currently living in France and it's almost the same work-life balance, except on the deportation for not taking vacations and the summertime work hours lol. At first, I complained a lot about the closed stores, but then I realized it's actually better.

[@adambrock7692]

Wow that is amazing really living life

[@goatcreek]

Hours is one thing, getting something done is totally different.

[@lottat6420]

If you work with banks and bonds in many countries, like the UK, you will most likely work for many more hours than other workers.

[@andersflintzberg2297]

You have both right and wrong about our vacation system. yes everybody have 25 days semester. But if you have paid vacation is determined by how long you have been employed between April 1 and the last March of the previous year, determines how many paid vacation days you have next year. if you were hired in november, you will have just over 12 paid days and 13 unpaid vacation days.

[@baharmehrabi9397]

Hi your KZbin channel is really useful thank u so much, I gonna immigrate to Sweden and ur videos are vary interesting and useful , It’s said that finding a job in Sweden is really hard I was wondering if you make a video how we can find a job in sweden ( Stockholm ) Best regards

[@denniss7575]

Don't forget the Friskvårdsbidrag and arbetstidsförkortning :)

[@bruceohio]

I wish I lived there.

[@ellasmith3782]

Is this same work-life balance applicable to doctors in Sweden too? Working fairly long hours is very typical of doctors, and I’m curious if they benefit from the “work less” mentality in Sweden too.

[@lenasoderberg4653]

I think it depends on where you work. medicarrera.com/blog/working-conditions-medical-professionals-sweden/

[@chipzzz6717]

what you think about fast food in sweden?

[@lansvill]

Great video! What about the comparison of salaries?

[@davidstorrs]

Speaking as an American: We need to acknowledge the fact that, not only are we not the greatest country in the world, we are crap in more ways than we're not. That's a thing that we should fix and that we *can* fix...except we would have to be willing to learn from other nations. It's been amply demonstrated that single-payer health insurance is perfectly feasible. There have been multiple studies showing that UBI actually leads to increased entrepreneurship and people don't work fewer hours (with the exception of new mothers and students). Renewable energy is already supplying more jobs than fossil fuels. Free state-school college for all more than pays for itself over the working life of the students. (State school for 4 years ~$40k total and provides a ~$25k/year average salary bump for the tax man to take a bite of for the next 40-50 years. Note that it's fine for private universities like Yale and Harvard to continue charging for their brand name.) All of these things are perfectly doable, we simply lack the political will.

[@SysterYster]

I wouldn't survive in America, working that much. I would be extremely unhappy, have no free time or energy to read, draw, write books, talk to friends, play games... I'd literally only sleep, eat and work. Not a good thing. Also, it's crazy that you have a limit on sick days! I mean, if you're sick, you're sick. Stay at home and get well, don't go to work and make others' sick, or get worse yourself. Jeez. America really needs to work on their health care.

[@danielmalm3601]

where whould you be standing at doing a practice work experience around middle sweden?

[@anderstrillkott4853]

Is working hard the same thing for you as working long hours? I think that we in Sweden are the most efficient people when we work, otherwise Swedish companies wouldn’t have been soo successful.

[@olddingo604]

Fast paced! Well is at productive in the USA? Specially long term!

[@k.handelsman2608]

Used to work in Silicon Valley and the hours were the same as in WallSt

[@moonlily1]

Not necessarily harder, just more. The corporate culture dictates that your job owns you.

[@rodinarttv]

Do you think that Americans get more done at work than the Swedish ?

[@jojje3000-1]

Swedens public sector has a really bad work morale. We have a serious problem with that. Private sector is usually much stricter.

[@nadiyahurtgen8679]

Those benefits like a batter on a toast.