HR is NOT Your Friend (It's Deeper Than You Think)

[@FerociousPancake888]

I used to work quite high up at a very large company and that’s where I really learned the HR game. An HR rep will tell you straight to your face that they’re there for you, and are there to help you. That’s just not the case. I consider HR to be the cops of the workplace. They don’t care about you, they will come down on you hard if they want to, and most importantly they are there to protect the COMPANY, NOT YOU.

[@HansZimmer-b1r]

Everything in modern life is just adversarial admins/officers talking at each other.

[@NoOne-kx7zs]

​@@HansZimmer-b1rit's sideeffect of Manegerial revolution..... manegement is the beauracracy of corporates

[@Maerlyns]

They are what they are, and that's a business function. We should never go around and attach motivations like this. Any business function has the motivation to act in the businesses' interest. HR is a complex one because it manages us workers with all our skills that create the company profit yet also our needs, ideas and motives of our own. If we approach HR as if they are in any relationship to us, we will fail. If we approach them as a business function like we'd do with others like finances, you'd get in the habit of thinking in political influence, compliance, and risk / reward. Another shitty thing is that businesses are by their definition an entity that relies on making deals in their favor while making them appear fair (because humans have a base need for fairness). But there is no fairness when you are an individual with limited resources while dealing with a group of people that have experts employed or access to external experts. So, you might approach the law naively while the company has a legal department. You might approach a situation with a naive sense of your proposed solution being fair, but HR deals with other interests so they only see a lot of influence they would need to use for little payoff - in other words, a risk. That behavior then comes across as them being "cops" or bad, but all it is is politics with you as a tiny little (frankly, replaceable) wheel in a big machine. It's not malice, it's "compliance" - which is much more dangerous because it's not that one bad HR employee or a rotten HR department, it's simply how businesses are designed and what their chosen values are. And while some countries acknowledge this in their law and have a consideration for the balance of power between individuals / smaller companies and companies / corporations put in their law, other countries shrug and say "good luck".

[@whataboutthis10]

@@Maerlyns you don't understand what police does, how it's like this as well. It's about collecting info, that might be used against you somehow, all while playing the surface game of 'being there for you'. It's not just a function in that innocent sense, like the financial dept or cleaning personnel. They have different power, different experience, they listen to you while estimating your engagement levels. You don't understand police is not just a 'job', it's the executory branch of systemic control. Comparing HR to finance dept is like comparing a police to a local bakery. Way off

[@liquidkameleon]

I would also compare them to the police. Just like the police, reach out to them only if you want to sic them onto someone else if that someone else is causing you problems that you need to escalate. If HR reaches out to you, that means someone else sent them to you like that, so avoid them as much as you can and apply all the experience from cop interview videos because you're in trouble. Just treat them as the police in everyday life.

[@allkindsamusicchick]

Lesson learned. Keep to myself. Leave when necessary.

[@bilinguismoparatodos6344]

Word!

[@theulfhednar3915]

As a middle age person who was fired for no reason from a very ugly company, i finally could start my own small grosery store near my house, best decicion of my life.

[@unnamedchannel1237]

You got that correct

[@featheredserpentofthewest2049]

@@allkindsamusicchick Precisely. Excellently spoken

[@featheredserpentofthewest2049]

@@allkindsamusicchick Observe, navigate,fly under the radar, and keep an exit strategy on deck

[@jaaguitar]

Work isn't that complicated. Until HR get involved.

[@marco.castiglia]

*until women get involved

[@1495978707]

@@marco.castigliaHalf the reason HR exists is to deal with women lol

[@auslegungssache]

@@marco.castiglia HR is basically always 90% women

[@nothanks9503]

I mean I’ve seen situations where HR is the only employee who’s job isn’t complicated because they do nothing and it’s essentially slavery outside of that including for the CEO

[@jon9103]

HR is involved before the work even starts.

[@Krlowanigu-mg6eg]

Never ever go to hr with anything. Once you report a problem you are the problem. Move in silence to land in different company and when it is secured and if you really want drop the b00mb the day before your leaving. Dont give them time to prepare to destroy you=problem.

[@ClayMastah344]

Only report if you have an attorney and a plan to sue or report to eeoc or osha

[@Tahitianpearl75]

100% on point. Once I had a problem with my team leader and her arbitrary "rules". HR always offer help with issues when you enter the company....but...if you ever do that they turn their back to you. They simply referred me back to the bitch in charge of the team...thank you, not helpful. They soon kicked me out and had a successor on hand. That´s what HR really does : ducking away and looking for the easiest solution...replacing the "troublemaker" instead of the root cause in the first place.

[@Fatelvis2]

I had people behavior in a way that if I had done the same I would be fired when I discussed 1 issue with a supervisor I said I feel if I acted like that I would be fired and he said oh you would be but if you file a complain they will find a way to get rid of you

[@nothanks9503]

@@Fatelvis2absurd nonsense I just wanna work man just let me work why is it so difficult

[@Fatelvis2]

@@nothanks9503 well for me I needed to build a bigger wall to protect myself prior to me working there people were socializing after work etc when I got there 30 years ago that had pretty much ended now some people dont talk to anyone because they know its a mindfield

[@ayaderg]

we can definitely tell you used to work in HR based purely on the number of times you can say "and we'll talk about that" in a row with a straight face

[@miumiu124]

dude learned this "i'll fuck you over and i think you're dumb enough you won't notice" act and thinks it works for youtube vids too. i wonder if he treats his close ones the same

[@vtop1c]

Honestly, when I first finished my studies I used to be pretty optimistic about work, workplace culture, etc.... And now after several years my boundaries are getting stricter and stricter. I come, do my tasks, and go home. Barely even interact with my co-workers for longer than completely necessary. And once work ends, all work-related notifications are instantly MUTED.

[@HonestyOverEverything]

That's the way to be. But it gets complicated when people place expectations on you to interact with them, and then ostracize you if you don't.

[@wompstopm123]

Every time I get a new job I get colder and harder. You people are all replacable

[@adamd9166]

"Be flexible with the work you do" Be flexible with the pay you give me lol

[@dan13jb]

They'll be flexible alright, but only ever in one direction...

[@bobufo5729]

That’s a great tactic to never get a promotion. That’s like if a professional sports player said I’ll perform better after you pay me more.

[@Birdsofparadiselost]

@@bobufo5729 yep, the only way to deal with transactional relationships is leverage. Usually that means leaving somewhere else

[@JoeJoeTater]

I dont think HR and management know what culture even is (or they're trying to redefine it). Like, it's a bottom-up thing. Authorities can't participate in it, by definition. Workplace culture is the stuff workers say to each other when they think HR and management aren't listening.

[@jon9103]

Authorities can't participate in culture by definition? Where'd that definition come from? Edit: to be clear, I don't believe culture can be dictated from on high but I also think management can influence culture.

[@dr.palsonp.h.d815]

that is very well put, I hate workplace forced culture

[@calebmon]

@jon9103 I think they are saying that bosses and HR etc. Cannot influence or participate in worker culture because it only happens when those assholes aren't around, hard to participate in work culture when you're off sexually assualting your secretary, or whatever it is HR and other non workers do at "work" all day, while the rest of us actually generate the wealth they steal.

[@storylineOfMadness]

​@jon9103 i'll put it other way around - there should be a safe space for people to talk shit about management, and good management would be ok with that. it boils down to that.

[@JoeJoeTater]

@@jon9103 The relationship between an authority and their subordinates is one-sided. Choices flow from the authority to be enacted by subordinates. Culture works the opposite way: everyone contributes lots of little choices that they enact on their own. So, if someone is participating in culture, they aren't acting as an authority, and vice versa. Of course, people can change roles. Managers can temporarily pretend to be workers for various reasons. Maybe they don't want to feel alienated from the people the spend time around. Maybe they want to quell rebellion by tricking their subordinates into thinking they're friends. (Maybe both!)

[@wiseowl2020]

HR is part of management. It's a CYA to protect the employer from lawsuits.

[@QuincyJacobs-i8h]

I disagree when there is a predator working there hr backs them against company interest and do everything to force you to sue

[@vatnikmcgopnik4928]

and how is that going? seems there are more and more lawsuits fueled by more and more scandalous business practices

[@markpvip21]

Too be honest, nobody you work with is your friend. They are co-workers, bosses, or subordinates. There is a reason for the age old adage “Don’t mix business with pleasure.” You are all there for the same reason, to make money for yourself and to make profit for your employer. Remember this and remember not to take work personal, it’s a business transaction nothing more.

[@anthonygonzales3523]

Agreed💯you just there to work clock in and clock out and get paid

[@valerieblackwell5765]

Yeah but why would we want a world where we are Alienated from the product of our labour? Why would we want to not know eachother?

[@GuitarHeroPhenomSux]

That's the conclusion I've slowly come to. Over time, I've tried to develop workplace relationships with everyone I work with to encourage teamwork, and morale. I've tried to get along with everyone, but I've learned that the best thing to do is to only talk about work at work, and be very careful about what information you reveal about yourself to others - regular coworkers, managers, HR etc. NO ONE there is your "friend." It doesn't matter if you talk about everything and hangout on the weekends, if it comes down to it, people will roll on whoever to save themselves or put themselves in a better position. People are toxic. Some love drama just for the sake of it. I've avoided drama my whole life, refusing to repeat/spread rumors or talk about others, and I've still been pulled into on a few occasions - almost costing me my job on each. Why? I really don't know. One example is one of the times, a coworker cursed me out (in a "joking" way), then they got reported for cursing me out to hr by someone else, so the person who got reported told everyone I was a snitch, so then multiple people start making my job harder, and you get the idea. I work around grown adults but I swear sometimes it's no different than elementary school.

[@Thefinancegirlie]

I agree. I go to work for a check and nothing else. Nobody in that bitch is my friend and I teach my younger siblings the same. My little brother IS an hr manager and he tells me a LOT. Unless you have a union, you’re on your own in that mf.

[@HonestyOverEverything]

​@GuitarHeroPhenomSux You should have told them you weren't the one. I've learned to not be afraid to make clear my thoughts about certain things. Yes, don't talk about all your business, but don't be afraid to voice your concerns when necessary.

[@MrsMysteryWoman]

The fact that you put the meaning of HR into a completely different perspective was very eye-opening. It’s not human resources in the way that we think- it’s not a resource for humans. Instead, it’s a way of managing the actual human beings that are the resources for them to makemoney off of. 🤯

[@doubleyouwes]

I never even thought of it in any other way lol

[@5naf6]

really strange because I always read the name like this? why would they be resources to be used by employees, I never use them for anything

[@storylineOfMadness]

yeah, you are very naive.... i mean they can solve issues, unless those issues cross the interest of the company, then uou become an issue. and trust me, there is always a reason to fire someone

[@StakeFromJateFarm]

You'd have to be a gullible dog to think it means resources for the worker

[@maqee3240]

I never thought of it as a resource for humans, the name literally tells you what it is XD

[@henryhamilton4087]

As an IT worker, i have a saying, the User is your adversary. You play a game with the user, you respect the user and whatever they need you provide, while they pay you. Meanwhile, HR is the enemy. Circling above you, waiting for any opportunity to fault you.

[@unnamedchannel1237]

I also work in IT. HR department is the worst to deal with . Expect you todo most of their job for them pretty much sitting there doing nothing all day but sending a few emails so people know they are there .

[@brianminsk8]

Love the distinction

[@IARECAOPI]

HR: Can you find my emails from 2018 for me? Bitch no I've worked here for a year, I got no idea where you squirreled that shit away at

[@unnamedchannel1237]

@@IARECAOPI Bitch from HR side swiped my car and denied it. I had a wittness that reported it to me and showed me the van thtat did it. . Lying piece of Shite.

[@UnbekannterSoldat74]

While to the company, the user is a cash cow. To me as a UX designer, the user is a mythical object and we create generic personas to describe them.

[@jmc.tattoo2567]

HR is the police of the work place. Anything you do or say can and will be used against you in the court of company opinion.

[@TheQueenChill]

More like the hall monitor of the company 😩

[@featheredserpentofthewest2049]

Also , remember "Employee of The Month" a sinister tactic.

[@alimohammed4709]

Extremely!!

[@duckymomo7935]

It’s a meaningless title No one but company is going to care Some colleagues are competitive or whatever but if I get it or my work friend gets it it’s whatever

[@ReverendCleve]

Hell yeah dude, I love Dane Cook

[@alimohammed4709]

@@duckymomo7935 it’s not about who gets it. It’s about who doesn’t. It’s a quiet way to discriminate and bully. At least from what I’ve seen

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

​@@duckymomo7935 No, it's a new certificate to put on my wall with the pile of other achievements and certs.

[@KathBorup]

Yes I had a micromanaging boss. One day he screamed at me in front of everyone at a meeting yelling corrections I needed to make the design (I worked for days on). It brought back a lot of past trauma and I completely froze. I left the room and nobody said anything or asked if I was okay. The place was so behind the times and an absolute mess, I completely burned myself out working there and I lost all my confidence. 3 years later I still haven't gotten another job or recovered.

[@AiMimi-Lunix]

Sorry for that happening to you, hope you recover. I take the example of a older coworker that gets really mad when someone yells at her and responds even harder, she has a store with her husband too so I guess she is not very stressed about losing the job. It's incredible.

[@twostroke12v71]

HR exists to protect the company from the employee. When the HR rep knows you because you caused them unnecessary work, it is the beginning of the end. HR does not have the power to fire you that must come from somone else in the office.

[@SuperPhunThyme100]

Just remember, HR is actually PR for the company at the end of the day. If you report a problem, you become a problem.

[@audeliaflowers]

Can you explain what you mean by that?

[@EnanoPancracio]

​@@audeliaflowers bad companies who have bad hr departments think that if nobody ever reports any problems, then there are no problems. But if you report a problem, even if it is a preexisting problem that has nothing to do with you, by reporting the problem you are then creating the problem. And people who created problems are themselves a problem.

[@OneZxxscsc]

@@EnanoPancraciothat makes no sense whatsoever. Safety issues and problems arise on a weekly basis. So by your logic if I or someone else saw a near accident happen it’s “not good” to report that?

[@EnanoPancracio]

​@@OneZxxscsc why are you explaining this to me? I'm not a C-suite guy at some large corporation incentivizing the HR department to sweep everything over the rug to create the appearance of a healthy workplace without having to spend any resources creating an actually healthy workplace.

[@OneZxxscsc]

@@EnanoPancracio you thinking an ample opportunity to provide HR with non bias appropriate data related to adhering safety protocol and procedures in a work place environment constitutes as “sweeping under the rug.” And that’s all I need to know about you.

[@repoilify]

You only touched on the culture thing at work. But holy shit you're so right. Work places that try to "BuIiD a cUlTurE of etc." are the most insurfrable places to work. I always remember that the best bosses I had were the ones who were hands-off but held a standard and just let people be themselves.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

The thing about micromanaging is that if you really have to do that, then the worker is clearly incompetent to begin with and should be fired. Better to find and keep people who know what they are doing.

[@cjames9320]

HR once wrote me up as a store manager on a First and Final Written Warning. This was because after I would leave at 5pm, apparently ny crew were horsing around, "taking eachothers phones, farting on eachother," and other things. My crew was all between 18 and 20, but still should know better. My meeting with HR was the very first time I was informed of this horseplay, which I explained, attempting to talk down from a Final, but they said I shouls be aware of everything that goes on in my store at all times... that's the answer they gave me, a manager already working 11 hour days at that time for $36k a year.

[@vatnikmcgopnik4928]

be omnipotent and omniscient! you know that's some bs they heard on some HBO show about cutthroat business tactics and they are just parroting what they thought was cool and tough. sad excuse for adults.

[@TheQueenChill]

This is a strange case 🤔 what action was taken against the employees engaging in horseplay?

[@cjames9320]

@TheQueenChill I'm unsure. I didn't ask, they didn't tell me, I was more concerned about my write-up. I left that dreadful company though and am onto much better things.

[@TheQueenChill]

@@cjames9320 I’m glad you left them too! Sounds like a terrible company to work for! As their manager, it makes no sense and is inappropriate for HR not to inform you of any disciplinary action that was enacted on your employees. It’s even more inappropriate for HR to not take any action at all against those employees. I’ve been working in HR for 10 years, and if I’ve learned anything, it’s that bad senior leaders and a bad HR department is always a recipe for disaster and creates a living hell on earth for the employees

[@makeitworkstudios5315]

this video FEELS like an HR presentation/meeting

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

Ultimately, the point of HR is to discourage unionizing.

[@QuincyJacobs-i8h]

Or to bully victims and get a sadistic rush knowing they helped a predator exploit you and force you to sue the company

[@seinfan9]

Everything HR does is to the average worker's detriment. Here's a quick list of what I've seen: restrictive budgeting for headcount, raises, and project development, but a willingness to blow worthless building renovations to "attract and retain" talent. They'll lie to everyone claiming that their compensation is competitive despite the high voluntary turnover where pay is the most cited reason. They are slow to reward high performers and to fire the dead weights. If you ask for a raise, there's nothing they can do, that is until you decide to leave with an offer in hand and suddenly they find a magic genie to attempt a counteroffer. And the corporate cringe team building activities and info sessions about random things about human behavior makes the office feel like an elementary school. HR is more useless now than it's ever been and it simply stems from the level of ignorance they have with respect to the difficulty of any other job position in the company. An engineer is simply a 2x or 3x admin in their eyes. Just another body taking up a larger share of the payroll and easy to replace since they think the job can be learned in several weeks.

[@agagqbq]

Pretty much all of these are spot on. My favorite ive experienced so far was a team building exercise which they basically showcased as something you're expected to be at. The kickers: it was during the weekend(who tf wants to show up to work on a saturday after working there 5 days straight) and you had to pay for the event costs yourself LOL. I'm still happy i came up with the "my work-home travel time is too far to make this possible for me" excuse.

[@jairoz5412]

HR is the worst thing ever happened to humanity.

[@jjaybourne4734]

You guys are describing bad HR. HR is not necessarily this demon you see it as.

[@thedarpside9480]

​@@jjaybourne4734if multiple people across multiple companies believe so, clearly "good hr" is rare and hard ro come by

[@zootjitsu6767]

@@jjaybourne4734good HR? That’s an oxymoron

[@eatass5627]

@@jjaybourne4734HR dork detected Enjoy your stupid job

[@FUEGOSTARR]

@@jjaybourne4734 How can a human resources department manifest good outcomes?

[@matthewvillarde5601]

This is true. I'm an electrician by trade but have also worked in a BPO setting and let me tell you. Physical exhaustion is more easily resolved with sleep than mental exhaustion

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Nothing is worse than mental manipulation and abuse. Nothing... In mostly or entirely sedentary jobs, people end up having too much energy and often gets channeled into petty nonsense and conflicts, and bullying.

[@randyhopper192]

Biggest lesson my daddy taught me, " NEVER BREAK YOUR BACK FOR NOBODY ESPECIALLY FOR CORPORATIONS." THANKS POPS

[@gwebocelestron9194]

Maybe you can do a video on why HR hires bad managers, and worse managers who are sociopaths who just want to F with people. And why when these sociopaths begin to make you a problem why HR ignores or denies your account of the situation. Clearly the sociopath manager always needs a target. If it's not you, then it's going to be the next guy who takes your place after you've quit. Constant turn over due to sociopaths isn't profitable for the company. My last office job I left after a year. I talked to my predecessor. He left after a year due to the same a-hole manager. He told me the guy before him left after a year - same reason. Then later I found out the guy who replaced me left after a year. The common denominator was this sociopath manager. Actually, he was a director, we were managers. So they burned through four good managers in four years due to this director. As managers we were experienced and advanced enough to be managers. We weren't just line workers complaining. We had real problems with this director thwarting oyr efforts to do our jobs well. I didn't even directly report to this director. My boss was the VP who the director and I both reported to. The issue was I was engaged with an external auditor who we contracted with for thousands of dollar. An audit the company is required to perform annually. The auditor and I were nearing the end of the audit and she and I had a status meeting scheduled. I called her on the phone and she was to join a zoom call. She joined the zoom and then proceeded to log in so we could go over her draft report. She couldn't log in. Her account had been deleted. I contacted IT to find out why her account was deleted. The IT guy told me this director to him to delete the account. Deleting the auditor's account caused all of her reports, her work papers, and evidentiary artifacts to be delected. Nothing recoverable because IT didn't do backups. Foyr months of work gone - poof! I immediately called the VP and told him what happened. He just said, I'm sure it wasn't done on purpose. I don't care if it was done on purpose or by accident. It shouldn't have been done at all!!! I was so angry I quit on the spot. So not only did the company have to redo the audit, but had to replace me with someone to manage the audit. And since it was December, there was no way to redo the audit to meet the deadline for performing the annual audit. Does HR get that employees like me can really screw over a company when we suddenly quit in scenarios like this all due to a sociopath director that F up our work?

[@johnspencer8982]

You sound like a problem, chill

[@MommysGoodPuppy]

sociopath directors probably just make more money short term unfortunately its a game of risk/reward

[@Maerlyns]

I want to start this off by saying that I am definitely neither a manager, HR or IT workers, but are you sure this is an HR issue in any way, shape or form? I have been an external employee in multiple companies so far, and what confuses me about your story is that one manager started the offboarding process of an auditor you manage, and you neither got a notification it happened, nor was your confirmation asked. That in itself seems like the offboarding process is not up for the task, to protect the work being done by external employees. I also could not imagine anyone up the chain taking "we lost four months of work with a tight deadline" lightly, so either there is some part of the conversation missing here, or you've found the actual reason why such managers have a job: Their own manager - not HR! - accepts such actions instead of managing them. And as an experienced manager, you should also know that the involvement of HR in the hiring process is not really one of "getting bad, sociopathic managers into the company". It's acting both in the interest of the company and of the manager who needs a new employee.

[@KC-Mitch]

I've just learned if reporting a safety problem, say nothing and report it to OSHA (keeping it vague enough not to be linked back to you, if possible). Even if the government _does nothing,_ they've done more for you than HR, which will make your life hell at best and terminate you at worst.

[@neilaneliew5624]

I knew we were doomed when HR replaced the Personnel department. I saw it instantly. Take the PERSON out of the equation, and the "human" is screwed.

[@Broken_robot1986]

My first experience with HR at 18-19, I went in asking some crap about insurance and first thing she exclaims that she can see my penis and called me "tripod" after that.

[@AshtasticAcrobat]

The next wave in HR is AI Recruiter Bots. I got contacted by one this morning and when I hung up it proceeded to text me. Stay safe, It’s getting weird out there.

[@Mountainshark]

HR and recruiters are two different things. Also, there are no AI recruiter bots. The recruiter just copied and pasted the message.

[@PamperUPretty]

@@Mountainsharklies you tell. There’s DEFINITELY AI RECRUITING BOTS 🤖 YOUR ONE OF THEM 🤫

[@JoeJoeTater]

@@Mountainshark Recruiting is like the ideal application for LLMs. If you think people aren't already using them for that purpose, you're fooling yourself. Most recruiters talk like LLMs to begin with. There's no requirement for accuracy or understanding. It just has to "sound right". Hell, LLMs would be better recruiters than humans, because they'd actually read resumes!

[@Mountainshark]

@@JoeJoeTater I'm a recruiter. Many people who apply are not qualified. It takes me 30 seconds to scan a resume.

[@viniciussilvafernandeskuhl5812]

​@@Mountainshark Thank you for being so thorough. Research shows that recruiters spend only 6-8 seconds on each CV, on average.

[@IonutzLOL]

I love this video because it makes me feel like i am at an onboarding meeting at a new company. Same vibe.

[@InTheWorldILiveIn]

Currently going for disability accommodations and I paid $300 to get a dr note from a neurologist…right when I turned it in they said “actually we need this 9 page form,” I’ve requested them to pay for a new visit which they refuse. I already turned over my dr note and like nine pages of medical records to prove my disability and need for accommodation to which HR is saying is not sufficient. They’ve already had OSHA violations, and I’ve been on a work injury for 5 months for something we weren’t ever supposed to be doing. I’m wondering about contacting someone…

[@InTheWorldILiveIn]

And this is a MAJOR company right now. I’m talking huge.

[@Krlowanigu-mg6eg]

Dont wait.

[@drpotato5381]

Sue them immediately ​@@InTheWorldILiveIn

[@demonic.lionfish]

If you have a paper trail, get a lawyer sooner rather than later. You're bound to find one that will work on contingency for you so long as you've got receipts.

[@Evp37h]

Contact EEOC

[@emiliakazek]

Bro dropped a well-paced, informative and entertaining video then disappeared for 8 months (great job!!! You've also got a really clear voice which is great for voice-overs like this one!)

[@whataboutthis10]

Uhm this is an ad for his hustle, clearly it worked well enough to pipeline plenty of future freelancers to him

[@userwheretogo]

He is so longwinded

[@AwooFiveSixSevenONine]

@@userwheretogo he sounds like a fucking woman and like someone who would not be able to survive in a situation where what they say is what decides if they live

[@Mainbusfail]

22 years as a highly skilled network engineer. Became unhappy and stressed then depressed. I opened a janitorial business and I've never felt happier in what I do. Plus. I ditched the managerial and HR game as well. So I guess I went the opposite direction.

[@MagicManAleister]

Just because you are explaining why the trash bin smells so bad does not mean it is any more pleasant. HR is a safeguard for lawsuits, another tool against the workers. This is why we need unions, they actually give the workers a set of teeth against the system.

[@Mountainshark]

Unions are bad. Employers can be bad, but no need to involve Marxism.

[@australiananarchist480]

Unions are, by design, only a positive to comparatively unproductive people.

[@calebmon]

Sadly the government has removed so many rights away from unions they hardly do anything anymore, we need all the workers in America to team up and show these dumb businesses who's actually generating their wealth.

[@tyhall7330]

​@@calebmonthat's funny

[@sarrjel]

I would also like to say that even temp services are like another HR because they do the same thing as HR. If you have a problem they ignore it and pretty much tell you that it’s all in your head. They also tell the HR everything you say about the company or the supervisor. I’ve had that happen to me. So, yeah, be very careful what you say to HR or the temp service.

[@Sandjsn0101]

Very true some staffing agencies do not care they want to act like if they own the employee just because they get paid 7 to 10 more than your pay and if you complain or quit they put the person unhireable because they lose money that you are working. Example If you get paid 12 per hr they charge the company 22 They get commission out of your work.

[@BeccaTKawaii]

Ive always known HR is just there to protect company assets. They make sure you don't have a case and then off you. If you do have a case, they try to solve it in house.

[@missironmouse]

I do chair massages for a living and I usually call and pitch myself to HR reps and they’ve literally had said “I hate these people” and “I could care less” sooooo

[@BillyViBritannia]

Next time tell them it's "I couldn't care less" on behalf of Alex

[@missironmouse]

@@BillyViBritannia I’m usually too stunned to correct someone over the phone lol

[@dark_fire_ice]

I have to add; prior to the industrial revolution, everyone's work (or near everyone) was at the home

[@Av3rjkRRow]

19:00 85% bosses like things done the "right" way (their magical way thats way better than anything else); often there's a better way

[@coolfer2]

The trick is, if you want to make the changes that you think would really REDUCE your workload, then just "bait" the manager into thinking of the same solution themselves. Sometimes, it's all about maintaining authority and images, they need to appear as if THEY came up with the idea themselves, otherwise they would look incompetent. And also, maybe your solution is indeed the most efficient way to do things, but remember, less workload means the company could do well with FEWER people. So the manager that you think is incompetent, egotistical, or whatever, might actually protecting their department, and that includes you.

[@coolfer2]

On the flip side, if you notice your manager is overly eager to implement your more efficient solution, be aware, they might already have a targeted employee(s) in mind they want to get rid of, and now you've given them a real chance to do so. A win for you, but a loss for someone else, at least for now. Next, your manager will have to weigh whether your "passion" for efficiency is a threat to their position, or if you could actually be an ally.

[@CT-yc4gd]

The long and short of it HR is to protect the employer. Its what they are hired to do. Now if you have something that comes up that they could be held liable for, then its an issue Management and HR needs to solve at the risk of a lawsuit. If its a personal issue that has no potential legal repercussions, then its placed on the back burner .

[@PrashantTiwari-u4n]

I like how you maintain the flow of information and took time for other to absorb while realizing the impact. Keep up the good work!!!!!

[@iferlyf8172]

Even if the hr cares, they still have to do what their boss asks of them first and foremost. They don't have much power, best they can do it make it go as smoothly as possible for everyone. None of them are your friend, but when you have to deal with them you're glad when you end up with one if the nice ones

[@FortTheMighty]

havent watched yet, but i will say off the bat that recently it occurred to me that "human resources" alone as a name implies we as people are just resources used for benefit of the company. this should be a great video

[@djkinkled273]

I just need to work less; working 8-5 is not for me anymore, and this job has made that clear. You hit the nail on the head at the end; I'm not ready to leave just yet, as I have some upcoming changes to look forward to, but I pray I find my way.

[@skyblazeeterno]

Hr is the equivalent of the guards at Auswitcz and Dachaus

[@sadigov]

Jawohl!!! 😂

[@casioak1683]

Arbeit macht frei

[@Sketchy_2]

"Work will set you free."

[@zootjitsu6767]

More like the kapo

[@slickrick2420]

Think twice before minimizing the worst genocide in history, edgy guy.

[@civicsport702]

Such a dragged out video. This could have been a 10 minute video, tops

[@michaelshannon9169]

But he's going to get to that later....

[@laurynharrell8529]

✨🤣✨I wasn’t gonna say it, because it seemed like he worked hard on it.✨💀✨

[@werdsemaj3044]

Seems exactly like onboarding tho so props to him for recreating that feeling while shitting on hr

[@Yapperinos]

Lol that's how you know he really worked in HR

[@corytomcany6027]

Comment could of bin retorical. But you had to put your fat fingers on the key board.

[@dariustakeda1609]

this video and the comment section is pure gold. Thank God ive found it. Pure gold.

[@emilyau8023]

"Career Life Coach" you had me in the first half ngl

[@DanikaOliver]

People in my country will still deny all this just so they keep the illusion that everything is okay, they can't be unhappy and bring those negative views to their minds.

[@Renierius]

I think that this is a good description of the dark side of HR, the contrast between naivity and fear-based HR. Often times that's the reality though, thank you for informing people. A good HR employee doesn't operate out of fear and truly works towards the common good: healthy, sustainable profit. It's an evolving thing though, as you also described.

[@adonislanzones]

ESL here, but now its more of my matrix language due to the years, but I also thought that HR, Human Resources were not there to be used by the human (in this case) but rather are there to manage the humans that are in the company, good to know that my articulation of HR is very similar to one of the main ideas in the video.

[@Gobama_prismG]

Using your brain and soul in a job is great when you have flexibility and resonable time for a task But let's face it Most jobs are too pressured to do all the 3 together until a point where going back doing something without brain and soul makes it more appealing

[@sirxavior1583]

My Mom is a senior manager at a major bank, HR is a determent for both the bank and new hires. HR could never get good candidates and the good hires were always filtered out. She always said if she wanted a good candidate for her team she'd be better off just recruiting them herself and not bother with HR.

[@errolwillis5737]

Thanks for that insight from your mom. So HR, because they are so lazy are now using artificial intelligence,A.I., to just screen and filter out good candidates. Gone are the days when someone in HR would read a resume,but not anymore. My question,do you think HR will be eventually be outsource and companies like banks,will stop having HR departments? Thank you

[@devoid_x]

Excellent video and discussion of this topic. This reminds me of comments Rudyard Lynch from whatifalthist has made about HR. That HR employees are the high priests and priestesses of the company to ensure that employees are staying in line with the company’s religion

[@paweadamczyk4096]

The ad for the author's services at the end undermines the entire argument. "Look, they're just telling you nice things to get resources out of you.". Yeah, as opposed to whom?

[@whataboutthis10]

A wolf changes his fur, never his skin

[@whataboutthis10]

His video literally ends on a slide 'friend.'

[@MechaOrangeStudios]

Big difference between advertising to sell a product, and trying to stop you reporting injury/harassment/etc in your workplace. The latter is about HR dodging responsibility and blaming it on anyone but the company; it's a lot more insidious. Also you can just ignore this KZbinr's ad and walk away, but is it so easy to switch your entire job and health insurance?

[@jaymeleonhard3764]

“The beauty pageant that’s called the interview process “ 😂 so true

[@lindaks8n]

I was unfortunate to work under a supervision of a stupid and toxic manager. she gaslighted my every idea and I literally cried in the toilet amidst day. And what did HR do when I told them about it? nothing, they penaltied me

[@aveuch]

Worked in a department store. Our HR and GM were very involved in store management and would often be on the floor. Even now in an office I share a space with my Office Manager.

[@MahbubeKhuda]

I have worked hard for a company,in return I got nothing

[@alclay8689]

This should be a banner somewhere. Way too godamn relatable

[@ashutoshsethi6150]

That was the deal. You work to make someone rich.

[@coolchameleon21]

i’ve learned that HR is there to protect the company, not the employees

[@demonic.lionfish]

The first thing I do when logging in to my email for a new job is add a quick button to my toolbar which forwards an email to myself at my personal email address. Anytime I receive a directly worded email or have to respond personally to a manager at my job, it gets sent to my personal email address so they can't hide the paper trail. I also refuse to sign any meeting paperwork before a copy is either given to me to keep or - you guessed it - it was emailed to me first so I could have a copy. I also record all calls to my personal phone from work or insurance or anything related. I've been fucked over before wrt disability accomodations. Never again.

[@kevinramirez538]

How do you record the calls… asking for myself lol

[@samuelmulenga1454]

​@@kevinramirez538you set it up on your phone to automatically record calls

[@davidinwashington]

HR exists to protect company interests, no other reason. My employer is actually phasing out HR and is handing those responsibilities to our direct supervisors. Sure we still have payroll folks, but everything else (coaching, mentoring, training and discipline) goes to our immediate supervisor.

[@RazeAVillage]

I've had similar thoughts but wasn't so sure how to articulate them. A somewhat infamous bread tuber by the name of Vaush pointed out that HR departments are not on your side because they are getting paid by the bosses, and that sparked my interest because it was something I suspected but figured I was alone in. Great job. I shared this on Facebook, and I will likely watch it again because you do a great job of explaining how the system is set up and where the incentives are and why.

[@bigblockz8]

I used to have a six-figure job but had a family issue come up where I took FMLA. My manager began harassing me daily about the FMLA that I had taken, constantly threatening to fire me if I were even a minute late to work. I was dumb enough to get HR involved for harassment and a week later I was unemployed. They really made me feel like they would actually address the harassment, not work with him to figure out how to retroactively write me up for little things over the past 6 years. When neither side could prove the write-ups I was told to hire a lawyer and that they were pulling my clearance for me threatening them. Apparently saying I will fight my termination is a threat. My union was no help, they said they didn't want to rock the boat. Several later became management.

[@zucc4764]

Please tell me you sued and won

[@valeriewarkins3704]

Watching this at work. Making sure the margin on my labor is as small as possible

[@bishop34567]

It’s honestly funny I remember being harassed constantly at work because I had a boss that was a “his way or the highway type” even though he hadn’t had hands on experience In the field since the 80s. We have a zero tolerance harassment policy and it got to the point that I said i was contacting hr, they absolutely lost their mind because our HR department has fired entire locations over harassment. Now do I trust them? No not one ounce but it is nice seeing HR actually punish people who deserve it and not just try to place you somewhere else to get rid of the problem. Out of all the places I’ve worked this is the only one that has an hr department who actually seems to care. Lots of company funded events ect all throughout the year. I always recommend keeping problems to yourself though because you inadvertently paint a massive target on your head once you report a problem to HR.

[@kevini4295]

I try to keep my life as simple as I can these days. I joke with my people leader, but also serious "Just tell me what to do.". Euphemism for "I am low key, easy to manage. I am open to feedback". Basically I don't look for problems where there are not any.

[@jacobhoke581]

The fact that he said HR is to help prevent unionizing has never spoken louder about how the company doesn’t want anything good for you

[@ricdrip]

the HR at my company recently changed from ADP to some random ass company because ADP allowed us to change our hours incase we forget to clock in. the new one wont allow us to do that, its also going to force us to take a lunch at the 5 hr mark when ADP allowed us to work through our lunch and get paid. They also pay for our travel back home and i kid you not they told me co worker to clock out when hes driving back home to count it as his lunch, so they pay for us to travel back home but want us to clock out during our travel that will be unpaid. i told them im gonna pull over and wait the 30 mins then go back home if ima not get paid like tf

[@erzsebetkovacs2527]

I had a 3-year contract with a German university, and unfortunately, I also had an abusive boss who abused not only mine but also, my colleagues' intense personal commitment to our creative progress for her own fame and gain. We used to have 10+ hour working days all the time, even though German law expressly forbids this, but this was only one of the problems which eventually led me to complete my contract and leave. Your video made sense and helped me understand why nothing was done despite me going to HR and all the other offices that were supposed to offer help in the event of such problems.

[@meownezz]

Interesting how successful cultures, after solving a lot of problems less successful cultures are still dealing with, seem to continue to find/invent new problems and concerns to deal with. 🙂

[@bezveze2825]

2 years ago someone from HR came to talk to me to see if I'm happy with the work I do, asked me some personal questions over a coffe, all under the premise of "friendly coffe", where she said explicity: "Don't worry, anything you say stays between us" It didn't stay between us, my superior came later that SAME day to talk to me about being a work risk, and asked me if I'm going to quit.😊

[@heatherlynn2695]

this is a huge problem thanks for giving it attention

[@kevinthefox]

HR is simply an extension of the legal department, someone needs to organize the employee files for them after all.

[@Mr.Redink]

HR is literally a form of soft power for companies.

[@tomgilad1803]

So important topic ! Keep spreading the true ! This world gonna trough massive changes in the next few yeas ❤

[@Tristanyway]

Indeed. Thanks for talking about this so important topic.

[@husseinal-khaiat1398]

Such a valuable video, thanks for this!

[@therichbinch]

Thanks my friend ❤ glad you’re a motivated future business owner instead of working for a company 🤣

[@yathercantillano3874]

Pointlessly scummy coworkers and HR really unnecessarily complicate just trying earn a living.

[@Xiphos94]

As long as the person signing the paycheck is the company HR will always operate in the best interest of their income stream/salary. HR needs to be an outside organization that is impartial and does not have a financial investment in the company they are looking into

[@lishhhhmm]

That justifies the hate towards HR for sure, actually understood something that I was not aware of today

[@Moonwatery]

HR will literally tell you that you can always change up things to be more comfortable and then just fire you for asking for a tiny change

[@spacekiller6856]

I agree that HR is partly used to keep workers content so that they keep working, but Id also add that it’s meant to dissuade workers from communicating issues with their coworkers and realizing their shared problems that the company refuses to deal with. By gaining the trust of the workers, the HR department does something corporations truly value, preventing the organization of unions.

[@dr.jacksonbright5723]

Thank you for this video. I feel heard and therefore I am unlikely to sue you.

[@karenreilly1320]

17:24 yup, i had a boss that was SUPER sexist and treated me and all the other female staff like shit, we all individually complained but they literally did nothing about it. my mum works in HR and she told me to write a letter officially complaining about him, and once i handed it to them suddenly they decided to fix the problem. that job taught me SO MUCH about employment law hahahahhaha

[@ChannelT54]

I had a serious work place injury this year and dealing with HR and insurance proved to me that work is not my friend. They have a whole system for making problems go away quietly. Workers comp is a system that prevents injured workers from suing the company they work for. HR teams up with insurance to reduce the amount paid out for healthcare and to make the employee go away quietly afterwards. While an injured worker is recovering HR is following policies and procedures to reduce their liability, like calling you and acting empathetic while they frame whatever you tell them to cover their ass.

[@bingo475]

I have had several bad experiences with HR with different places. In my experience, if HR refuses to provide you basic information or refuses to use Email they are doing something wrong.

[@geofox9484]

6:35 hands🙌🗣️🗣️

[@ezekielgillett4744]

👐

[@demonic.lionfish]

Mfw I work in a semiconductor factory so my job includes results with my 👐 but also via 🖥️ for 🖥️💻 lol

[@justrusty]

True HR story: I announced my retirement and HR came to me and asked if I would stay a while longer because my boss was on leave and I was the most experienced employee in the department. I arranged to go part time, 30 hours/week, so of course 3/4 the salary I used to have. All fair. Then something came up and a program manager asked me to put in some extra time. At my previous employer, in this situation a part time employee would get paid up to 40 hours, then after that the whole "you're a professional on a salary, so no extra pay unless approved by the project" would kick in. So at this company, I asked how I filled out the time card to get the 40 hours pay. HR told me I was "salaried, therefore, you work for the agreed upon pay and work as many hours as necessary to complete the assigned work." And that "I should make up my mind about whether I wanted to be part-time or full-time." I think HR people are clueless about how humans actually operate.

[@JohnCloccwork]

7:49 …because companies sent those jobs overseas to countries with fewer/weaker unions and labor laws, making the labor cheaper.

[@jaminova_1969]

Unfortunately, in my state you are required to report any type of discrimination to the company if you want to claim "hostile work environment" and pursue a legal remedy if necessary!

[@CollinsCorp]

I’m sorry you left your position in HR, employees need advocates like you, and you’re not as helpful to us when you’re not right there in the company with us 😢 kind of like a double agent. It’s hard to find an HR person that gets this, and Ashley operates on our behalf. I did actually find one who was able to help me with a difficult boss without seeming like she was helping me. She reminds me of you.

[@7wrenchbench]

Very good video, even with the presentation format, I like that you didn't just read it off, or worse, have some text-to-speech explain the HR issue. Please do an Office Space retrospective/critical analysis

[@DeanDiefendorf]

You did a great job on this video!

[@krandomk]

HR can't even be assed to spend an hour a day looking at resumes, instead they just "automate" it

[@hellygeer]

I learned years ago never to go to HR about an issue at work.

[@Zekrom569]

Yep, HR, or "people & culture", which the latter was renamed in the previous company i worked. Even the most honest HR departments are more about keeping the peace inside the company without making any real changes to the company. Also the "HR as therapist" resonates with my experiences, i guess that's why many HR departments have people that has experience as counsellor/therapy

[@KathBorup]

If possible, try and work out who you're going to be working with. That will be one of the main the determining factors in regards to whether or not you're happy everyday. Difficult people will completely drain you, especially if you have to compensate for their lack of competency.

[@yoursubconscious]

you just reminded me I have to do some " online training" for my offline job haha!

[@NoName66426]

Never bring your authentic self to the work place. To me it's very simple, I trade my time for money, that's it. I don't belive in company loyalty company culture, none of that bullshit.