American Fascism: White Supremacy and the Far Right from the Klan to Jan. 6

[@pottedrodenttube]

The merging of the corporate sector, and government decades ago was already ensuring our fascism. Stop believing that voting for either corporate party is going to change things, it hasn't yet, and never will.

[@fun_ghoul]

Indeed, the largest colonial landowner was George Washington. Fascism: Since -1776- 1492!

[@robertrichard6107]

U.S. is run by a white non-indiginous duopoly party secured with a military Industrial Congressional Complex by billionaires with many interest groups scared $h!tless of Ralph Nader.

[@Tristandii]

1/6 was also encouraged and organized by FBI

[@fun_ghoul]

_"Some of those that work forces_ _Are the same that burn crosses"_ -Comrade Zach

[@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609]

Gerald Horne is my go-to guy to understand things.

[@platosbeard4449]

Indeed. His historical analysis based on a rigorous assessment of material conditions and material interests, enables him pierce the obscurity caused by pervasive propaganda and the entrenched myths of American exceptionalism.

[@desireegerber]

Factz! He is just so DAMN good at this

[@jamesoakes1819]

British empire apologist. Nice.

[@jamesoakes1819]

@@platosbeard4449 lol

[@qd7343]

It's fantastic channel to watch.

[@paulmcgrory5165]

Brilliant interview. Thank you

[@platosbeard4449]

Gerald Horne’s analysis is deeply insightful. I need to reassess my views on what is now clearly the “Jan 6 fascist insurrection”.

[@SillyLittleAshTree]

I hope this is sarcasm.

[@platosbeard4449]

@@SillyLittleAshTree no it isn’t

[@jamesoakes1819]

lol

[@robertrichard6107]

Us 82 million voters fer Joey O'ByeDon can't let the Trumptards turn J6 into National White Privilege Day.

[@cloudmane4159]

I fucking love this show

[@jcjcviews]

Wait a minute -- about the racist movement significantly related to Donald Trump in any way, listening to Noam Chomsky, I recall the differences between Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump: Ronald Reagan was a racist and proud. Donald Trump declares emphatically, on the other hand, in his own words, "I am absolutely not a racist." I wish to say that we cannot suppress what Ronald Reagan came to reveal. In the code language, continuing with Lee Atwater's revelations, Ronald Reagan was deeply committed to anti-black racism (which is the racism of the USA, in effect). The reason for Reagan's effectiveness is rooted in his Irish identity (he's that "fighting Irish character.") Ronald Reagan, the Irish descent (being Irish matters, I think) B actor, was not messing around about his hatred for black people. He was like the specter of the founding father's trope come back to life. He was a "racist gentlemen." No two groups of "white people" that I can think of should know who has stood steadfast in protecting us blacks but only fail to do so, were other than the Irish and the Jews. Not all, but many significant numbers of these people had to have turned around to attack and to ultimately absolutely betray us for money and power. Name me any other groups under the banner of oppression that, ironically, did more harm to blacks and continue to do so, other than these two. They are such hypocrites as a "group." We must understand that we cannot allow white people to pretend to know nothing about their history and the blacks before whiteness. We cannot move ahead when we fail to foreground what we're talking about. There is continuity. Allowing people to hide behind a claim to innocence and ignorance about the particulars of white history is a crock and a complete waste of time. This is because instead of calling people out about the specifics of their identities, in action, it leads us back to reinforcement and the remaking of white supremacy. Do you see what I mean?

[@namelesswarrior4760]

Not on the rise but just coming out of hiding.

[@gdeiselable]

This is such an insightful interview

[@diosamurcielaga9418]

The first US refugees have already been coming to Mexico....

[@jarvisaddison8560]

Careful! They call themselves expats! Lol

[@diosamurcielaga9418]

@@jarvisaddison8560 Yeah, for some reason the usual US lingo of 'aliens' or 'migrants' don't apply, I wonder why🤭

[@jamesmurphy9105]

Good luck You unfortunately can't use the Word Socialism It's a big word that inspires Fear Since most people don't have time to be educated about equal opportunities

[@tesfayeephrem1953]

true expration of stolen land

[@lrn2-lrn224]

Timely ISSUE ⚠️

[@aryashar2542]

THE LEAFT NEEDS TO ARM, ENOUGH TALKING!!!!!!!!!!! THE RIGHT IS WELL ARMED!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT FORGET GREENSBORO N. CAROLINA 1979!!!!!!!!!!! ARM OR BE BUTCHERED!!!!!!!!!!....

[@lostmusichits]

@1:25 Not ..."unprecedented"... The US Capitol was burnt down Aug. 24, 1814, during the Chesapeake Campaign

[@fun_ghoul]

That was done by the forces of another country. Unprecedented.

[@lostmusichits]

@@fun_ghoul "Another country"? England and it's rulers at that time didn't agree that the colonies were another country. It was a civil police action in their view. Similar to US military and other forces bullying others domestically and especially globally. Burning entire countries, clearly other nations, to the ground.

[@Chuckrange]

Did he “not all white people” the guest lmao??

[@fun_ghoul]

He indeed did. Maybe the show should be renamed "Both Sides"...

[@SimonAshworthWood]

Huh? You prefer stereotypes instead of facts? White people are the majority of people in the USA, so we will only achieve anything in the USA by getting a majority of white people to agree. Writing all white people off as “bad” won’t achieve anything positive.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@SimonAshworthWood P.S. Liking your own minutes-old comments is lame af, "comrade".

[@SameerGuptacatchymango]

And it’s not like Horne was saying that it was ALL white people, seemed pretty clear to me that he was saying that the settlers’ autonomous political project was encapsulated by trump. To make a comparison to 18th and 19th century colonialism, the Democrats should be viewed as playing the a role somewhat akin to that played by the British in the US and Africa. Not benevolent, but representing a wider coalition of capitalist forces (versus the Plantocracy in the US and the Boers in SA) whose rule was secured partly through concessions to the groups it had displaced and/or oppressed. Like how the Americans wanted to settle beyond the Ohio River despite treaties being signed forbidding that, or the Boers who similarly wanted to escape British economic domination by taking more lands from native peoples, you see a nativist, anti-elite tendency which is profoundly hostile to the colonial state which governs it, for perceived advantages it confers oppressed groups, supposedly to their detriment. This can perhaps explain some of the anti-woke backlash at the heart of the Trump movement. Anyways Horne’s analysis was just spot on I thought!

[@Chuckrange]

It’s just the fact that you all chose semantics instead of collective accountability. He dove head first into racist talking points. Doesn’t matter if it was cloaked in “leftist” backings.

[@okay456]

Democrats are not different from the republicans but try to look better.

[@LORDNAG1]

Need to buy Guns

[@fun_ghoul]

_"Political power flows from the barrel of a gun."_ -Mao Zedong

[@lostmusichits]

@3:45 Nah that's ridiculous nonsense.

[@SimonAshworthWood]

What is “the settler class”? If it includes white working class and middle class people, then it is not an economic class. Thus it is not useful in organising to replace capitalism with socialism. White working class people, like all other working class people, are harmed by capitalism, imperialism and racism, and will benefit from changing capitalism into socialism. Imperialism only benefits some of the capitalist class and is a net cost to all working class people. It is working class people who pay the cost of imperialist state spending ($1.25 trillion annually on military, CIA, NSA, USAID, etc.). It is working class people who are traumatised and maimed in imperialist wars, and who return as veterans, many of whom become homeless and/or commit suicide. 40% of US veterans are disabled. Racism harms all working class people by dividing the working class, making us weak and unable to unite in a strong labour movement against capitalist exploitation. Racism also harms all working class people by treating some employees worse, and thus, through capitalist competition, driving down the wages and working conditions of everyone else. Thus it is in the economic interest of all working class people, including white people, to end capitalism, imperialism and racism, and replace these with socialism.

[@fun_ghoul]

"Middle" is not a class. Since when are you a radlib? Damn.

[@fun_ghoul]

(Edited for snark; sorry for being needlessly antagonistic, Simon. Even so... 👇 ) "Racism" isn't when oppressed nations say hurtful things about their oppressors, my fellow Neanderthal, but a synonym for white supremacism. Are you saying African people are being white supremacist against white fascist workers? 🤔

[@robertrichard6107]

The Red Deal must come to pass, white settler Colonialism has no answers including to racism/ slavery.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@robertrichard6107 Indeed, white settler colonialism -- which is to say, masses of Europeans coming here for centuries to enrich themselves and their financial backers, and which has not ended to this day -- is the root cause of racism. As an institution, it needs to be eradicated, as do the settler nation-states.

[@lumpialogic8053]

Why are you tailing the Democrats on Fascism? Seriously?!

[@StopBaizuo]

Am I watching Breakthrough News or am I reading The Washington Post or the New York Times? Let's stop painting an imaginary reality.

[@platosbeard4449]

Yes this is Breakthrough News not WaPo or NYT, how could you be so confused? It is not Fox News or Breibart either. Horne provided evidence and substantive analysis for his position. Provide a critique of his evidence or analysis rather than flimsy rhetoric.

[@PaulSmith-pn8hi]

Lol , nobody is watching

[@GazB85]

Literally 117 in chat. 🙄

[@moriyokiri3229]

@@GazB85 literally? As opposed to figuratively 117? What’s the difference?

[@johnnycreighton29]

@@moriyokiri3229 you are very intelligent 🤓

[@rcmrcm3370]

You may be a nobody, but your icon says you are Paul Smith.

[@rcmrcm3370]

@@GazB85 correct, and this is a podcast, KZbin is not its primary Outlet.

[@lostmusichits]

@4:00 Here we go again. Hey look what some dead people did to some other dead people! Garbage level criticism.

[@platosbeard4449]

Yes, because sick people have no need of a historical analysis of the cause of their sickness. Why not just pretend that the US is not sick at all. Always funny how the beneficiaries of settler colonialism are at pains not to relinquish their privileges but rather hide behind fairytales and other distractions.

[@lostmusichits]

@@platosbeard4449 Im not a "beneficiary" at all. I've been a slave in prison most of my life. Jump to false conclusions much?

[@platosbeard4449]

@@lostmusichits and I’m to take your word for it because??? In any event unless you’re in prison right now, and I don’t know why even that should negate my assertion above, you’ve taken your place once again as a substantive beneficiary of the settler colonial system; hence your rather asinine comment. It doesn’t mean that you’re at the top of the pyramid, but just like the slave taskmasters were residual beneficiaries of a system of racial slavery in America and gleefully carried their sordid tasks, so too where the settlers who help steal and then settled on land stolen from the natives. They also provided the fodder by which the nascent empire would eventually expand westward and steal land from other Native American tribes as well as from Mexico. In return, they would partake of some of the spoils of violent aggression.

[@StopBaizuo]

I totally disagree with the opinion expressed in this video. It is a pathetic manipulation of reality to discredit, ridicule a part of the population that thinks differently about a lot of things. This campaign of denigration must stop.

[@yingxu7908]

free to say what you want to say

[@pissyourselfandshitncoom2172]

Sinophobe

[@fun_ghoul]

Follow your fuehrer, weeb.

[@SillyLittleAshTree]

@@pissyourselfandshitncoom2172 Those are not the characters for Zhong Guo

[@qd7343]

In tis world, there is always someone out there doesn't like someone. Because, it's standing on the opposite side of the road

[@tesfayeephrem1953]

Vote Trump 2024

[@fun_ghoul]

Ethiopia will prevail. #nomore

[@VChong1991]

I rather abstain from voting either parties. I rather not get invovle with this joke politics of a nation.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@VChong1991 Exactly. Voting is like co-signing the result. Fuck that.

[@tai-yomaruno3680]

Whatevs