American Reacts History Buffs: The Patriot

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McJibbin

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@Kevc00
@Kevc00 11 сағат бұрын
I'm from Ireland and even we thought the film went overboard with the anti-British propaganda. My dad lived through the entire Troubles, half his family fought in the Easter Rising, War of Independence, and Civil War, and when we first watched it he said leave it to the Yanks to be overly dramatic about everything.
@carolineclarke8487
@carolineclarke8487 10 сағат бұрын
Ordinary British subjects in Britain had no representation in parliament in those days, only the aristocracy had seats in parliament, so the colonists had the same franchise as the British.
@McJibbin
@McJibbin 8 сағат бұрын
Thanks Caroline! That's the question i was most curious about
@marcushertz4434
@marcushertz4434 6 сағат бұрын
@@McJibbin To expand on Caroline's point: All landowners(or maybe just the major landowners) had the vote in proportion to the size of the ownership. I believe that at this time that amounted to about 5% of men having the right to vote.
@fezmancomments
@fezmancomments 24 минут бұрын
Having a Vote is similar but not the same as having representation. The English have been represented in Parliament since the early Middle Ages - represented by their constituency Member of Parliament. They were represented and so they paid taxes. There were no MPs representing the colonists in the English Parliament. In those old days there was an expectation that Laws would be tested by juries in courts of law. A jury might think the Law had been broken but would acquit because they believed the Law was badly constructed and unfair in the particular case. This was Democracy and was not the same as voting for a Representative. Can you imagine a Judge today allowing the Jury to say the Law is wrong?
@H4CK61
@H4CK61 11 сағат бұрын
American Holywood has rewriten history with every film they have made.
@Thunderworks
@Thunderworks Сағат бұрын
True
@bramba1953
@bramba1953 10 сағат бұрын
The 7 year war (French & Indian war) is what you have to look into, it left the US far bigger and richer but left Britain with its debt doubled (imagine now the US doubling its total debt in a couple of years) and even then the Brits hardly raised any taxes in America. The tea tax wasn't paid as "illegal" tea had being been smuggled in for years. The leaders of the revolution were almost to a man very rich and powerful men who had a high degree of self interest this doesn't mean they acted only for themselves.Washington(300 slaves) and Jefferson (600 slaves) couldn't deal with life without slaves giving them their lavish lifestyle even though morally they knew it was wrong, so in other words they were human and not god like saints and very very fallible. True history is always problematic because we all want fairy tales but we should try and seek the truth to better understand ourselves and our history.
@HankD13
@HankD13 10 сағат бұрын
The tax thing goes like this - the expensive war that was fought, mainly for the benefit of the American colonies was being paid for by the British workers and peasants - and how much voting power do think they had in 1776! The colonies, even if they actually paid any tax (largely they didn't) it was a tiny amount compared to what the British were being taxed. Lucky the revolution did not happen in the UK. Add to that, many of those hated "redcoats" were American loyalists who ended up in Canada.
@obugger
@obugger 9 сағат бұрын
Mel Gibson has form for rewriting history. The Patriot, Braveheart and Gallipoli are three of the most inaccurate historical movies ever made. What they have in common (apart from Gibson) is that they each portray the English as comic-book villains.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
While it's true that the movie Braveheart was historically inaccurate. What the English did to the Scots was every bit as bad as portrayed in the movie. The inaccuracies are mostly about ages, and things that didn't exist at the time. But a lot of English don't want to believe that they were the bad guys, so lean heavily on the fact that Braveheart was historically inaccurate to wash away all the real terrors they've inflicted on Scotland, before and after the union was formed.
@billythedog-309
@billythedog-309 Сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman What bollocks! Your knowledge of history is so narrow and biased that you ignore any contrary evidence. Does that make you a True Scotsman? My father was a Scot and l love Scotland, but l get embarrassed by the chest thumping self pity of so many of his countrymen.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 24 минут бұрын
@@billythedog-309 Here comes another Englishman to deny historical atrocities. You'll probably also claim pride for the empire. But all of the bad stuff either never happened, or you're not responsible for. Because you only take the credit, not the blame. That's your cake and you insist on eating it too. I don't give a rat's rump what you think of Scotland. That's something a lot of English people love to throw around. "I support the home countries in this and that sporting event, how dare they not support us?" No such thing as an home country to me. If it's not Scotland, it's not my home, nor country. Nor do I care especially for those who live there, especially their opinions.
@williamgillbanks5373
@williamgillbanks5373 11 сағат бұрын
Mel Gibson's hatred of the English shows his ignorance of History, the same way they were depicted in Braveheart, even Golipoli.
@Lones555
@Lones555 10 сағат бұрын
He changed history to keep the extras happy, in reality the Irish fought alongside the English but in Braveheart he had them change sides at the start of the battle to be more popular with the extras playing the Irish regiment 🤦‍♂
@janolaful
@janolaful 10 сағат бұрын
Thank-you I came here to say the same who can forget his rant and even saying the n word he hates Jews he's a vile man.
@rickb.4168
@rickb.4168 10 сағат бұрын
Jealousy, raising its ugly head. 😂
@jeffgraham6387
@jeffgraham6387 6 сағат бұрын
He is after all a British hating, anti-semite alcoholic so this is his idea of reality.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
While Braveheart was inaccurate. What the English did to the Scots was every bit as bad as portrayed in the movie. The inaccuracies are mostly about ages, and things that didn't exist at the time. But a lot of English don't want to believe that they were the bad guys, so lean heavily on the fact that Braveheart was historically inaccurate to wash away all the real terrors they've inflicted on Scotland, before and after the union was formed.
@arnodobler1096
@arnodobler1096 10 сағат бұрын
As a German, I have to apologize for Roland Emmerich, but he didn't write the script. Just a good action movie. Fun fact: US Americans living abroad pay taxes without representation!🤔
@dzzope
@dzzope 15 минут бұрын
That was one of the craziest things I had ever heard when I found out US citizens living and working abroad have to pay taxes in the country they are in AND to the US unless they renounce their citizenship... Crazy.
@gio-oz8gf
@gio-oz8gf 10 сағат бұрын
I'm used to the way American films portray the British, it's been going on the whole of my life. The thing I don't understand is why they can't move on. I believe it's a method of keeping the American masses loyal to the flag and under control. From birth, you are conditioned to believe in an America that doesn't exist. All the talk about American freedom is simply nauseating.
@emmafrench7219
@emmafrench7219 7 сағат бұрын
@gio-oz8gf I totally agree. I honestly used to think (naively) that the American's disdain for us in England was false. However, I was so wrong. Reading comments on videos regarding topics about our country and culture and articles in papers etc .... I now see that most of the American people absolutely hate us and are incredibly nasty with their words. They seem incredibly angry. Maybe it's because they realised that they are less "free" than us? Oh well, it takes all sorts etc ...
@bramba1953
@bramba1953 10 сағат бұрын
My favorite is U571 where the US boards a U boat and recovers the enigma machine except that it happened before the US entered the war and by the British navy. Second best was Argo where the British and New Zealand embassies refuse to help the Americans absolute the opposite of the truth.
@ebbhead20
@ebbhead20 7 сағат бұрын
You mean... It was done by the brits , you wrote something that didn't explain that.
@ebbhead20
@ebbhead20 7 сағат бұрын
Americans was such a new concept in that time. Most people where European that came from England and France and Germany and so on. And the way people spoke was more a mirror of where they came from. So a lot sounded like some London bloke, and not this whole Yankee doodle dandy thing.
@ebbhead20
@ebbhead20 6 сағат бұрын
Also Mel was fine with have the brits shoot a lot of soldiers that was wounded and out of business. And then later burn a church down full of Americans or settlers. That never happened. The British army was probably the most gentleman army at the time... Strict conduct was the norm. Not letting some madman act like a cunt because he came from a good family.
@juliehaley4697
@juliehaley4697 21 минут бұрын
​@@ebbhead20They do actually say, "and by the British navy."
@hellohellohellohellohello-h5l
@hellohellohellohellohello-h5l 10 сағат бұрын
Probably helpful to bear in mind that most Brits living in the UK didn't have genuine representation either. It wasn't as if the UK was fully democratic, while the Americans were being ignored and oppressed.
@rickb.4168
@rickb.4168 9 сағат бұрын
Oppressed? They didn’t want to pay the bill for Englands expense of defending the colonies from the French.
@MichaelLamming
@MichaelLamming 47 минут бұрын
In 1772, the Somerset case happened in England that stated that "the air of England was too pure for any slave to breathe". England was already against slavery although it hadn't been legally outlawed in its colonies until 1833.
@IESVSCHRISTVSDOMINVSNOSTEREST
@IESVSCHRISTVSDOMINVSNOSTEREST 8 сағат бұрын
on the matter of the public support for independence it is generally understood thusly: Over the whole population of the 13 colonies about a third were pro-independence, about a third were loyalists, and the remaining third mostly didn't feel strongly either way. Regionally though, New England leaned a bit more pro-independence (probably in part because they were they most economically urbanised and developed and thus were competing with Britain's manufactured goods a bit more), and the south leaned a bit more loyalist (likely in part because they were more agrarian and so didn't compete with Britain's manufacturing and actually held sway over the British tobacco, cotton, and grain markets and so didn't feel quite so threatened by the British imperial mercantile system). This is pretty surface level, but everyone had their reasons, including Dutch tea smugglers who helped fund the revolution because it would take the superior British Indian tea off of the market or have it tariffed, allowing them to profit from selling the lower-grade but non-British tea from the Dutch East Indies.
@DECKER1982
@DECKER1982 10 сағат бұрын
We had freedom in Britain long before America even existed.
@Searover749
@Searover749 40 минут бұрын
now you're "free" to get poor , jobless, and become a third world country, thanks to the brexit ! Great job ! karma exists...
@QuantumShock1
@QuantumShock1 11 сағат бұрын
A reaction to History Buffs Braveheart should be next. Same kind of film with just as much historical fanfiction
@karstenstormiversen4837
@karstenstormiversen4837 10 сағат бұрын
And both films have one person in common! The brit hating Mel Gibson!
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
While Braveheart was inaccurate. What the English did to the Scots was every bit as bad as portrayed in the movie. The inaccuracies are mostly about ages, and things that didn't exist at the time. But a lot of English don't want to believe that they were the bad guys, so lean heavily on the fact that Braveheart was historically inaccurate to wash away all the real terrors they've inflicted on Scotland, before and after the union was formed.
@brownbess8185
@brownbess8185 2 сағат бұрын
​@@OneTrueScotsmanNo knickers?
@judeandrew696
@judeandrew696 10 сағат бұрын
If you want an even less historical film than this one also starring Mel Gibson try Braveheart.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
While it is true that Braveheart was historically inaccurate. What the English did to the Scots was every bit as bad as portrayed in the movie. The inaccuracies are mostly about ages, and things that didn't exist at the time. But a lot of English don't want to believe that they were the bad guys, so lean heavily on the fact that Braveheart was historically inaccurate to wash away all the real terrors they've inflicted on Scotland, before and after the union was formed.
@gyderian9435
@gyderian9435 6 сағат бұрын
​@@OneTrueScotsman but it still is one of the most inaccurate "historical" movies
@pittarak1
@pittarak1 3 сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman how many times have you posted this exact same quote? I've counted at least 3 times.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 20 минут бұрын
@@pittarak1 Because a lot of English people in the comments are using the same tired, ludicrous line about "this film is historically flawed, thus English people were lovely to Scotland." It's like saying The Monty Python's historical films were historically inaccurate, so the Romans never existed.
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 11 сағат бұрын
I don't know much about Mel Gibson, but for some reason he seems to have an irrational hatred of the English. Does he have Irish republican ancestry or something?
@rasmusn.e.m1064
@rasmusn.e.m1064 10 сағат бұрын
It very much seems like irrational hatred is his thing.
@robert-antoinedenault5901
@robert-antoinedenault5901 9 сағат бұрын
Mel Gibson is Australian😂😂😂. Take a quick look at their tumultuous history.
@da90sReAlvloc
@da90sReAlvloc 8 сағат бұрын
​@@robert-antoinedenault5901 no. He's actually a American born in America but lived in Australia while he was young
@pittarak1
@pittarak1 3 сағат бұрын
I expect some Englishman in his past won over his girl and he's been mad about it ever since?
@brownbess8185
@brownbess8185 2 сағат бұрын
​@@robert-antoinedenault5901Mel Gibson has dual nationality. He is American and Irish. He was born in America and he had an Irish born mother.
@SavolaxMitsu
@SavolaxMitsu 12 сағат бұрын
Third were patriot, third were loyalists and third dosen't care.
@dzzope
@dzzope 19 минут бұрын
As bad as The Patriot is for historical accuracy, you should check out HB's review of Braveheart if you haven't already. Also if you like someone presenting mixed views of historical events from people that experienced them, J.Draper is Excellent.
@jillstedtenfeldt6799
@jillstedtenfeldt6799 11 сағат бұрын
The lovely Jason Isaacs doing the villain Tavington with the same excellence as he did the notoriously wicked Lucius Malfoy. A fab villain.
@McJibbin
@McJibbin 10 сағат бұрын
I couldn't agree more 👌 a master class
@georgeflanagan5201
@georgeflanagan5201 11 сағат бұрын
Large parts of the uk had no representation at this time including some large towns and cities. Many British subjects did not even have the right to vote. The Americans were represented in their colonial assemblies and could even pass laws.
@GyleCast
@GyleCast 11 сағат бұрын
Less than majority support is not uncommon for revolutionary movements at the start of a revolution. The Bolsheviks weren't particularly popular in 1917 either. But if the right people in the right places start an uprising and grab the centres of power, sometimes that's all the spark it needs.
@unojayc
@unojayc 10 сағат бұрын
Representation may have avoided war, but there is more to it. The displacement of loyalist refugees and cost in lives and money I think if conflict would have best been resolved peacefully. 🇬🇧🇺🇸🤘
@johnnyanderson2-roblox185
@johnnyanderson2-roblox185 3 сағат бұрын
YEEEEEES!!!!! I love that you're reacting to History Buffs!!!!!!!! Also Hi Connor, sorry I ain't been active in the server recently but my IRL job has been going VERY good for me!
@corringhamdepot4434
@corringhamdepot4434 10 сағат бұрын
Must look up the 1985 Al Pacino movie "Revolution" again to compare. It is infamous for being a complete financial disaster, and won the Stinkers Bad Movie Award for Worst Picture
@stirlingmoss9637
@stirlingmoss9637 4 сағат бұрын
When you say "we" Connor, there was no "we" as your families were not there and the USA was but a dream. The colonists were Brits living abroad mixed with Germans, nordics, French etc.
@vaudevillian7
@vaudevillian7 4 сағат бұрын
At the time mostly Brits, only 30% were not British - including 20% that were African slaves
@finnishculturalchannel
@finnishculturalchannel Сағат бұрын
I once based my history exam answer on some movies I had seen about the topic. I might have skipped reading about the subject from the history book thinking it wouldn't be covered in the exam. When I got the paper back, the teacher had wrote that while my answer was entertaining to read, not all the things I had wrote down were historically accurate, and the list followed. I didn't think to contact the filmmakers and accuse them of attempting to chance history as we know it.
@DECKER1982
@DECKER1982 11 сағат бұрын
Well it is a Mel Gibson film . Look, at braveheart . Historical inaccuracies in that film.
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 10 сағат бұрын
A person called William Wallace and a king called Edward. That's as close as Braveheart came to history. Even "Braveheart" is not Wallace. it is Robbert the Bruce.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
While Braveheart got some things inaccurate. What the English did to the Scots was every bit as bad as portrayed in the movie. The inaccuracies are mostly about ages, and things that didn't exist at the time. But a lot of English don't want to believe that they were the bad guys, so lean heavily on the fact that Braveheart was historically inaccurate to wash away all the real terrors they've inflicted on Scotland, before and after the union was formed.
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 5 сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman Which is not the point either way, about this film. It is the massive inaccuracy of it. It would have been a very different film if Wallace had been shown as the military trained minor noble that he was. Not some random peasant or serf. Apart form a person called Wallace and a king called Edward and there was some sort of battle. That is how close this film gets to known history.
@pittarak1
@pittarak1 3 сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman exact same comment - now counted x4
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 18 минут бұрын
@@pittarak1 Yes because a lot of English people in the comments are repeating the same fallacy, to try to erase real historical brutalities inflicted by England, with "the movie is historically flawed (hence, we weren't the bad guy). Yes you were.
@stevenoliver3442
@stevenoliver3442 11 сағат бұрын
I’m English tbh the movie is a good watch but to say it’s factual it’s just not as most Hollywood movies the unfortunately people believe the movies instead of reading books or documentaries, it’s a shame that majority of people don’t make the effort to find the truth, love your content mate
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 10 сағат бұрын
Which is why its a terrible film. All to many DO think this film is close to rel history. Look at 300 (2006). Lots of people, especially the
@stevenoliver3442
@stevenoliver3442 10 сағат бұрын
@@Yandarval I think as long as you no what your watching is bs and just watch for entertainment value is fine but yes we agree that films should be way more accurate, it’s a shame we can’t all get along at the end of the day we’re all the same species regardless of what part of the world your from, regards to the film seen it brilliant movie
@Yandarval
@Yandarval 9 сағат бұрын
@@stevenoliver3442 It has been happening for a long time. Not just in the US. But they are the major culprit. Henry V (1944). The director hired the head of the Tower of London Arms and armour as an advisor. He told the director that the image of a knight having to be hoisted onto his horse, due to the armour weight was a load of rubbish. That knights could run and jump in plate armour. Said director STILL put in scenes of knights been hoisted onto horses. This is the sort of thing that reinforces the wrong impression of history. The same goes for the Medieval period as been portrayed as grim, mud covered and coloured, and generally filthy. Hiring perople who know real history, then completely ignoring or badly twisting history. irritates me Some articstic licence is ok. But its often taken too far. Braveheart has its big battle on a lovely field. It was actually over a bridge. The battle of Stirling Bridge. It was the bridge and tactics involved that allowed Wallace to gain victory. While tartan and Woad is terrible. I can let that slide.
@stevenoliver3442
@stevenoliver3442 9 сағат бұрын
@@Yandarval your knowledge of history is i would say is above average most people have no idea about that battle the bridge or the fact the tactics won the day, its a shame there’s not more people like yourself that actually make a effort to find the truth and I totally agree what many films are historically incorrect, like Zulu private hitch I believe it was if you look at his military records he was a exemplary soldier and I believe many years later the film company issued a apology to the family, interesting love your knowledge of history not often I meet people that no there stuff, normally as I’ve said most watch a movie and believe that’s history ignorance no need for it this day and age with the internet
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 9 сағат бұрын
Mel Gibson's hatred towards the British (particularly the English) is why I've lost my respect for him as a person. He chooses to toss history aside simply for the reason of villainising an entire country
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
Riiiiight, yea, because the English have always been angels.
@brownbess8185
@brownbess8185 2 сағат бұрын
​@@OneTrueScotsmanno. Some were Angles. Some were Saxon. 😂
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 11 сағат бұрын
Gets the gist of the Southern campaign. Francis Marion was buff. History Buffis is fair. US foreign policy was anti-British until 1940. I am still divided on being pro-British myself. My first toy soldiers were Recoats vs Yanks.
@vaudevillian7
@vaudevillian7 4 сағат бұрын
Highly recommend season 3 of Brady Crytzer’s Wartime podcast - one of the best summaries of the Revolutionary War out there. There was a powerful American lobby in Parliament including William Pitt and Charles Fox (who wore Continental blue and buff to Parliament), Manchester was already a large city then and had no direct representation - but the same collective representation as the colonies. You can’t look at the 18th century with the same ideas about representation as today, but look at it from the understanding of the day.
@stevenoliver3442
@stevenoliver3442 11 сағат бұрын
Just want to add I’m not saying that us the English were angels no empire or country and claim to be 100% innocent, but the we did some good and we did some bad but wheather your England or America or France or any other country in the world all countries do what is in there best interests that’s the harsh reality of the world, you don’t build an empire without some things that are wrong happening, want to add one more thing I think the big difference between England and America is we are made aware of the good and the bad things we done whereas it seems America don’t share the bad on your side I could be wrong though
@Yulo2000Leyje
@Yulo2000Leyje 7 сағат бұрын
History Buffs: Master and Commander next to react to ?
@christineharding4190
@christineharding4190 51 минут бұрын
Well done for wanting to know the facts. Too many people believe what they see in films without question.
@Shytot-1
@Shytot-1 10 сағат бұрын
Connor, I hate to break it to you but, did you know that the first 3 (possibly 4) US President had British accents?
@janolaful
@janolaful 9 сағат бұрын
And columbus never was on the mayflower infact he was dead but hay that's Americans for you
@Shytot-1
@Shytot-1 9 сағат бұрын
@@janolaful Columbus only got as far as the West Indies.
@vaudevillian7
@vaudevillian7 4 сағат бұрын
You should watch Brandon F’s videos on the Patriot On the split it’s often divided into convenient thirds but it’s more accurate estimated to have been 20-25 % Patriot, similar for Loyalists and the remaining majority neutral. The Revolution does seem to be taught as if it happened in a vacuum in the US, thankfully the Museum of the American Museum in Philadelphia is rather good at putting it back into the context of being a British event in a British world, with the Patriot cause being just as much a product of British culture, philosophy and political ideas
@paulbromley6687
@paulbromley6687 5 сағат бұрын
I had a Japanese friend who had been taught a more acceptable history in school for the Japanese palate to deal with rather than the truth about how horrendously they had been to the Chinese in Manchuria and to men women and children civilians and military prisoners throughout the Second World War it must suite governments and cultures to not have the population revolted by their forebears. In the UK we have had a history thrust upon us more recently that has in my opinion gone beyond true to satisfy the wake agenda where more recent behaviours were expected of those from recent history who were products I of the times they lived in. It’s a rewrite of history rather than a reality accepted of how we have progressed.
@paulbromley6687
@paulbromley6687 5 сағат бұрын
You sir are a prophet, you see the future like a historic ninja
@user-TonyUK
@user-TonyUK 58 минут бұрын
Good Morning Conner, at the time ONLY Land Owners PAID TAX so your average "American Worker" would not be paying Tax except import tax on Goods Imported From England. Even the British Working People could NOT VOTE in National Elections of what happened in the UK. At the time ALL Goods imported into the UK would be Taxed by the Monarchy/Government.
@improvesheffield4824
@improvesheffield4824 8 сағат бұрын
This may give more info on how we weren’t always the bad guys. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5-vlpKBYpd8Z68&pp=iAQB
@omegasue
@omegasue 11 сағат бұрын
Thanks Connor. I’ve often said/thought if the part is English it should be played by a native, and if the part is American, an American should play it.
@gyderian9435
@gyderian9435 6 сағат бұрын
Lol awesome how you called the last points beforehand 😅
@mikeduplessis8069
@mikeduplessis8069 6 сағат бұрын
When this movie came out it was badly reviewed and widely condemned for being laughably a-historical. Another M, Gibson vanity project where he gets to play a martyr again.
@matthewvancha6487
@matthewvancha6487 7 сағат бұрын
Im a Canadian and this was a childhood classic for me too aha loved it. But man I had no idea how bad this was as a historical film. After becoming a history nerd I have learned a lot about history and although a film like this is pretty much a abomination in historical reality, at least it can inspire people to be interested in our past and actually learn the facts. It's way more interesting when you do. But ya ahah cant stand bad history nowadays 😂😂 film is a bit ruined for me lmfao. Great vid though man keep it up!! 👍
@Markus117d
@Markus117d 5 сағат бұрын
Except they for the most part don't go on to learn actual history, If you don't believe me, Just check out the comments section of any reaction video with "the Patriot" as it's subject. Yes there are those pointing out it's inaccuracies & biases, But it's equally filled with nauseating comments such as We owe the founding fathers so much for what they had to go through, bless their souls for standing for freedom and justice against such repression ect ect... 🤢🤮
@kerouac2
@kerouac2 2 сағат бұрын
Connor's saving grace is that he realizes that he is incoherent.
@mattsmith5421
@mattsmith5421 3 сағат бұрын
Getting foreigners to act in a film about foreigners? What a ridiculous idea.
@garypeyman932
@garypeyman932 Сағат бұрын
Hollywood is not really a good place to be learning history but unfortunately that seems to be where a lot of people seem to learn their "facts" . It has a habbit or rewriting history to turn it into a feel good "we're the real heroes of the world story" .
@BikersDoItSittingDown
@BikersDoItSittingDown 8 сағат бұрын
If you think a story lacks the truth, it is as accurate as Hollywood History!
@johnwilletts3984
@johnwilletts3984 10 сағат бұрын
The Patriot Movement actually started in Britain’s Parliament back in 1725 as a branch of the Whig Party. They later changed their name to the Liberal Party (Liberty), and so still exist in parliament to this day. They pushed for a fuller democracy, Civil Liberties and Free Trade. They also believed that all Englishmen even American ones, ha don’t the democratic right to chose their own governance.
@johnwilletts3984
@johnwilletts3984 10 сағат бұрын
My home town of Rotherham was Patriot. On a hilltop overlooking the town stands a monument to the Boston Tea Party called Boston Castle, it was built in 1775 at the start of the conflict. Not far away at Parlington Hall stands a massive Victory Arch. Around the top it reads Liberty in N. America Triumphant. It was built in 1783. In 1976 as part of the bicentennial celebrations it was offered as a gift to the USA, but the gift was declined. Our Rotherham politicians were Lords Rockingham and Effingham. These gents are remembered in the names of American Cities, Counties and even Warships. But the American Tories who fought against independence and the Brits who fought for Washington have been airbrushed out of American history.
@johnwilletts3984
@johnwilletts3984 10 сағат бұрын
The issue of taxation worked both ways. The French and Indian War had left Britain with a massive financial debt. Then their was the issue of paying for the continued defence of the 13 colonies. There were anti tax riots in British Cities and demands that the Colonists should pay a far share. All attempts to have the colonies defend themselves had failed to produce enough men or money. The cost to supply troops to America was £200’000 per year. The government tried to collect just a third of this from the Colonists, but all they managed to collect was just £2’000 with a cost to collect of £7’000! There were attempts to have American Representatives in Parliament, but the colonies could not agree. However the opposition Whig Party with the Patriots took up the cause. As well as the British Patriots pushing for independence as part of their democratic objectives, there was a mass of tax payers also supporting independence as a means of reducing what had become the highest tax burden in British History.
@johnwilletts3984
@johnwilletts3984 10 сағат бұрын
In 1782 the Whig Lord Rockingham was invited to become Prime Minister. He agreed on the condition that he be allowed to set America free. Then one of the ironies of the conflict - The new USA moved to the Tory Right, whilst Britain itself moved to the Patriot Whig Left!
@johnwilletts3984
@johnwilletts3984 9 сағат бұрын
‘No Taxation Without Representation’ Was a principle lost following independence. The new USA limited the vote to the white male property owning class or just 6% of the population.
@drwho9209
@drwho9209 11 сағат бұрын
Greetings from Vancouver Island, nice job,
@TransoceanicOutreach
@TransoceanicOutreach 11 сағат бұрын
3:27 - is this chunky gentleman the same actor who played the representative for New York in the John Adams miniseries?
@craighughes4906
@craighughes4906 10 сағат бұрын
Sad when historical fact is changed to suit a narrative.
@claregale9011
@claregale9011 Сағат бұрын
Hi Connor , my all time fave film is This Happy Breed , if you ever get a chance to watch it please do . Hope your doing well 😊.
@Ayns.L14A
@Ayns.L14A 9 сағат бұрын
Connor, I've just got to say, watching you cringe through this was possibly the funniest video you've done so far..........
@jimharrison748
@jimharrison748 9 сағат бұрын
Never watched it. Being a student of history for around the last 45 years in the days when it took actively studying documents and records made by the actual people of the time and not hollywood movies or internet posts, I watched Braveheart. I knew then, anything involving hollywood and even Mel Gibson would have the historical accuracy of a drunken infant. Not everything any nation was ever involved in was enveloped in honour, far from it. But if you have the opportunity to make a historical production, don't lie. It simply leaves the viewer with lies, nothing else.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
I agree, be historically accurate. But by the same token, don't use the defence "historical inaccuracy" as an erasure to pretend that the English didn't do some awful things to lots of countries. it's all I see when Braveheart comes up. It's historically inaccurate, the English never did anything wrong. Trying to take over Scotland was fine. Banning the Scottish language and their culture and traditions was a good thing. The English were awesome.
@Hard-Boiled-Bollock
@Hard-Boiled-Bollock 8 сағат бұрын
When ever Mel Gibson is involved.. assume historical inaccuracy
@stirlingmoss9637
@stirlingmoss9637 4 сағат бұрын
A truly loathsome movie.
@claudiavictoria3929
@claudiavictoria3929 11 сағат бұрын
8:23 yes, none lol
@matthewjamison
@matthewjamison 12 сағат бұрын
Nobody had a say in the government back then. In Britain or the Empire. *Still don't.*
@petermillist3779
@petermillist3779 11 сағат бұрын
We have elections. Better than nothing!
@angelabushby1891
@angelabushby1891 11 сағат бұрын
We're all good friends now❤🇺🇸🇬🇧❤,that's all that matters.
@anacasanova7350
@anacasanova7350 2 сағат бұрын
No todos los colonos eran ingleses, eran también de otros lugares de Europa. Las estructuras del Estado en las colonias, como ejército y infraestructuras había que pagarlas. Independencia? Libertad? Quien Votaba? Las mujeres no, los pobres tampoco. Quien Votaba.? Al Parlamento británico ?.......Los poderosos, no el pueblo. Libertad.....??? Los esclavos de Washington no tuvieron ninguna libertad. Hasta ......
@paulthomas-hh2kv
@paulthomas-hh2kv 8 сағат бұрын
If you want some facts Connor, listen to The Last King of America with author Andrew Roberts. Very interesting and informative, you will enjoy it
@timholder6825
@timholder6825 10 сағат бұрын
Stop pausing and passing opinion before he's finished making the point. Be patient, he gets to it all. You've a tendency to rush in, before the whole thing has been presented.
@eddhardy1054
@eddhardy1054 Сағат бұрын
7:29...Yeah you had no representation in Parliament but you got loads of new land to exploit for your own profit plus you could rely on the British Army and Royal Navy to protect you from disenfranchised Native Americans (& any French or Spanish still milling around). You just weren't prepared to pay for any of it (Ungrateful Colonial Swines! 😡😡😡)
@chriswhite1417
@chriswhite1417 3 сағат бұрын
Anti-British Gibson: The Patriot and Braveheart 🙄
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 16 минут бұрын
Lots of reasons to not be a fan of Britain.
@JohnSmith-nn1yk
@JohnSmith-nn1yk 7 минут бұрын
It's very easy to look back and judge the past with the lense of today. The slave trade is a very complicated subject, perhaps you shouldn't comment on it when you obviously know so very little about it.
@mariahinde7393
@mariahinde7393 9 сағат бұрын
Mel gibson is so anti British got no time for him and his movies
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman 6 сағат бұрын
Well his opinions aren't without justification. The British Empire inflicted a lot of terror in the world. Only British right wing imperialists think the British Empire was a good thing.
@GiuseppeLeopizzi
@GiuseppeLeopizzi 11 сағат бұрын
Falsifying history is a very bad habit. However movies are not history textbooks, in fact they should be labeled "entertainment" for your boredom.
@stuarthumphrey1787
@stuarthumphrey1787 11 сағат бұрын
Despite American film makers penchant for fantasy of it's history, and in fact the world, we will regain the colonies 🇬🇧
@nedludd7622
@nedludd7622 12 минут бұрын
Nearly all Westerns are wrong.
@mango2005
@mango2005 7 сағат бұрын
I saw it when it first came out. I like it but the church burning scene I think is incorrect. I think it was actually burned after removing the congregation.
@anacasanova7350
@anacasanova7350 2 сағат бұрын
Todo falso, mentira. Una vergüenza.
@timholder6825
@timholder6825 10 сағат бұрын
FFS Connor. Get a grip. Pause, digest and comment when appropriate, not every 10 seconds to say, essentially, nothings. You're ruining the flow of your own video and making it frustrating and unwatchable.
@ladykat637
@ladykat637 Сағат бұрын
FFS Tim. Get a grip. Pause, digest and comment appropriately, not every 2 comments to say, essentially, bad things. You're ruining the flow of your own credibility and making it irritable and unreadable.
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