American Reacts The Crazy Engineering of Venice

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@taranvainas
@taranvainas 2 ай бұрын
You should go to Venice in winter and in bad weather. During the tourist season it is UNBEARABLE. Mass tourism is starting to be a serious problem in some places here in Europe. The consequences are devastating for the locals.
@jimb9063
@jimb9063 2 ай бұрын
Totally. It might have rotted away completely without the limited tourism that started around 200 years ago. It's like an addictive drug though. It's needed but it's harmful too. Last time I went in early summer I vowed not to go back unless it's the off season, must be a nightmare to live and work there during summer. Saw an article today that suggested a £100 visitor tax might be introduced soon.
@taranvainas
@taranvainas 2 ай бұрын
@@jimb9063 In fact, Venetians leave the city in the summer. The last time I was there it was November, with high water and rainy weather. It was a delight, not so much because there were fewer tourists but because I could see what normal Venetian life is like. They need to find a strict solution that everyone understands and respects. It is very easy to control the only access to the city and that is a great advantage.
@lorsev3840
@lorsev3840 2 ай бұрын
There are no locals in Venice anymore
@lorenzodepaoli
@lorenzodepaoli 2 ай бұрын
Venice is connected with the mainland through a 20th century bridge, the Ponte della Libertà. At the end of the Bridge, on the Veniceian side, there is a large hub, Piazzale Roma, where cars can find a parking space and where buses load and unload. Near Piazzale Roma there's also the Railway Station, Santa Lucia. Beyond this point, you can only go by boat or feet, and it's not a small place.
@lucianorosarelli-xr5lr
@lucianorosarelli-xr5lr 2 ай бұрын
ex ponte del Littorio
@segaiuolo
@segaiuolo 2 ай бұрын
The railway bridge and the road bridge were built in two different times: the first, during the Austro -Hungarian domination, the latter during fascism. I guess the name "freedom's bridge" is ironic
@monicadrovandi7553
@monicadrovandi7553 2 ай бұрын
no roads, no cars. that's why it's a unique city
@B.R.0101
@B.R.0101 2 ай бұрын
Dirty water, pollution and humidity everywhere, even if I used to be in love with this city, its a very caos nowadays
@paolorossi9180
@paolorossi9180 2 ай бұрын
@@B.R.0101 clean water
@falcon_0432
@falcon_0432 2 ай бұрын
Dove?​@@paolorossi9180
@mikhalbruns2414
@mikhalbruns2414 2 ай бұрын
This video lacks the latest developments of ingenious engineering in Venice today. As today's problem is Acqua Alta (High Waters periodically flooding the city), an innovative system of "lifting dams" called Moses has been built, unique in the world, which closes any influx of water from the sea in case of risk, then it disappears into the bottom.
@Jarni1979
@Jarni1979 2 ай бұрын
MOSE, not Moses.
@mikhalbruns2414
@mikhalbruns2414 2 ай бұрын
@@Jarni1979 Mosè, with an accent, is the Italian for Moses; the biblical character who opened waters to let the people of God pass through.
@ricardomancini4563
@ricardomancini4563 2 ай бұрын
​@@mikhalbruns2414 Still the dams system is called mo'se and not mosè.
@mikhalbruns2414
@mikhalbruns2414 2 ай бұрын
@@ricardomancini4563 MOSE is an acronym for MOdulo Sperimentale Elettromeccanico; but why do you think they called it like this, with an O in between? Why not Modulo Sperimentale Elettro-Meccanico (MSEM)? Or maybe Sistema di Dighe Mobili (SDM) or Complesso delle Paratie Sollevabili (CPS)? Because calling it Mose, although there is no written accent, recalls the name of the biblical leader who gave the law to his people and separated waters to let them flee from Egypt. This is history, my friend. If you don't believe it, go reading newspaper articles and reports from the first engineers who designed it between 1988 and 1992 on why they gave it this name. Btw I live a stone throw from the Venetian lagoon.
@antross7901
@antross7901 2 ай бұрын
​@@mikhalbruns2414what you say Is true, Mose recalls the name of the Prophet, but still in Italian the system Is called Mose, not Mosè. And in other languages It remains Mose. If you search news or videos in languages different from Italian, you'll see that they call it Mose.
@venetoaward
@venetoaward 2 ай бұрын
Ciao from Venice, Italy. Video is excellent, but we didn't take timber from Croatia, but from our own forests at least early on. And yes the pillars are still there. Those who are partially outside (aka not keeping buildings up) do deteriorate and get regularly changed. Cars can go to the Tronchetto through the bridge connecting us to Veneto and you can park there. From that point on you're on boat or feet
@InfoRome
@InfoRome 2 ай бұрын
Pseudo-historical lies that got into the video, Croatian nationalists even go around saying Marvo Polo was Croatian. Venice took timber from Dalmatia after it conquered that region in wars against Croats, so not before 1000 AD.
@mikhalbruns2414
@mikhalbruns2414 2 ай бұрын
@@InfoRome Yes, Venice took timber from its own territories. Dalmatia, now Croatian, was then Venetian.
@JJ-of1ir
@JJ-of1ir 2 ай бұрын
Visited Venice and three of the Islands and loved it there. Had no idea how the City was built so it was fascinating to learn. Thank you.
@anta3612
@anta3612 2 ай бұрын
There are no cars or roads within Venice. The city is connected to the mainland by a long modern bridge so you can reach the city by train or car. Once you arrive, at the very edge of the city, there's a designated area reserved for parking and then you have to get around either on foot or by ferry.
@MLWitteman
@MLWitteman 2 ай бұрын
Venice really is a marvelous city. I’ve been there once, and I was amazed how different it felt compared to other cities in Europe. But it’s also very similar to Amsterdam, and other Dutch cities. Even though Venice is much older of course.
@linorosi8002
@linorosi8002 2 ай бұрын
No streets no cars
@danielefabbro822
@danielefabbro822 2 ай бұрын
Lots of boats. 🤣🤣🤣
@Robert-q7c1b
@Robert-q7c1b 2 ай бұрын
L’Italia e gli italiani sempre un passo avanti ❤
@taranvainas
@taranvainas 2 ай бұрын
Most of the wooden pillars are original and in excellent condition. The state of the foundations is constantly checked by the Venice City Council.
@danieled.4582
@danieled.4582 2 ай бұрын
In the video they forgot another incredible work. In the mid-16th century the Venetians diverted the course of the Piave to prevent the lagoon from silting up... Saluti dall'Italia!
@carloorelli3538
@carloorelli3538 2 ай бұрын
this video omits the estimated number of trees that have been used to create the solid ground to build Venice upon. they calculated they used around TWO BILLION TREES! and the amazing thing is that over centuries they crystallized and became petrified. Thus, Venice lies upon an upside-down petrified forest 2 millennia old!
@segaiuolo
@segaiuolo 2 ай бұрын
The Rialto bridge collapsed at least two times in its history: the little arch in the middle was meant to sustain it when the section underneath it opened up to let the mast of a big celebration ship, Bucintoro, pass under it... but the bridge was too heavy
@nielsdanielbuch9022
@nielsdanielbuch9022 2 ай бұрын
I believe the piles on which Venice stands are made of elm, because it will slowly pertify in the salty low oxygen environment. Venice is also the birthplace of modern banking, and many words associated with banking are derived from italian, Bank(banco - bench) Bankrupt(banco rotta - broken bench) Giro(Circle). In the beginning banking would be done from a bench on a market, if they couldnt pay their taxes, the bench would be broken by city guards. The building of Banco Giro, one of the worlds oldest banks still exist in Rialto, today its a bar.
@MaddalenaMalaspinaG
@MaddalenaMalaspinaG 2 ай бұрын
For the first piles, oak, alder and poplar were used. Later, especially for larger constructions, oak and elm poles were used. (reference: Mario Piana - Costruire Venezia - Edizioni Marsilio Arte)
@nika05456
@nika05456 2 ай бұрын
Florence is the birthplace of banks in reality
@bepinkfloyd814
@bepinkfloyd814 2 ай бұрын
​@@nika05456 i thought that the first bank in italy was in Siena, but i think you are right
@nika05456
@nika05456 2 ай бұрын
@@bepinkfloyd814 yes but in siena and venice banks arrived really early too. Florece was the richest city in the western world in that time, venice probably the second one
@bepinkfloyd814
@bepinkfloyd814 2 ай бұрын
@@nika05456 i'm really ignorant about this topic even beign italian, i just thought was siena cause i remember in an advertisement about the bank "monte dei paschi di siena" beign old af xD
@XMarkxyz
@XMarkxyz 2 ай бұрын
So there's a couple of inaccuracies: the firt part of Venice to be settle wasn't the modern day group of islands that is shown but it's the island of Torcello, than peple moved to what's now known as Venice and in earlier time they brought wood and stone from the closer mainland, for exaple they used the pietra of Aurisina and not of Istria initially, so you can actually grossly date buildngs from the stone used. Also every part of Venice is built on soil, even the parts that at the start of the video don't look like it, those formed partly from the deposits brough in by rivers and partly by humans; actually the rivers put so much debris in the lagoon that during medieval times the Venicians decided to cut and redirect a couple rivers to keep the water around venice from becoming just land
@fedesotilpazzo91
@fedesotilpazzo91 2 ай бұрын
you can get to venice by train or bus and near the airport you have like streets and stuff but inside the city its mainly boats and ferries
@carlobellinaso4974
@carlobellinaso4974 2 ай бұрын
Most of the wood used for the foundations was oak or larch and came not only from Croatia but mainly from the Cansiglio forest which is located about 100 km from Venice and was transported via the Piave river.
@stemid85
@stemid85 2 ай бұрын
They had the secret of roman concrete with them. Hardens underwater and lasts for centuries
@Moribax85
@Moribax85 2 ай бұрын
And there isn't a gram of it in all of Venice... With love, a venetian.
@Lulibag
@Lulibag 2 ай бұрын
Venezia è vicina all2 terraferma ed è collegata con treni, autobus che si fermano alle relative stazioni. Poi da lì si va in traghetto, su barche, in gondola o a piedi, su e giù per calli e ponti a gobba d'asino .
@DrTarr
@DrTarr 2 ай бұрын
No car or other motor veichle are in venice today, only boats. The streets between 2 buildings are called "Calle" (as in spanish) and the streets on canals are called "Fondamenta" (that means foundations)
@brunocavallo1175
@brunocavallo1175 Күн бұрын
... Come base nel centro di Venezia si usano, dove possibile, i vecchi pali e piattaforme originali spesso vecchie di secoli😜😉👍
@Ppalinozz
@Ppalinozz 2 ай бұрын
No cars in venice dude...only boats...even police, taxi are in boats
@markmuller7962
@markmuller7962 Ай бұрын
The US contributed a lot for the saving of Venice with the Moses dam so thank you MJ!!
@gio87vr
@gio87vr 2 ай бұрын
2:53 I think of two possible motivations of that choice, first they had only that kind of wood available, the second, they tried many types but only that wood was satisfactory.
@mafaldarusso6441
@mafaldarusso6441 2 ай бұрын
Many italians live into houses and buildigs built during the middle age or renassance (not in castles) because our towns and cities are very ancient. My mother's family still live in a house built on 1799 (there is the construction date engraved on the keystone of the front door). For us is normal. I live in a recent building... in 2029 it will be one hundred yiears old and it's is the strogest building in our little town.
@slopermarco
@slopermarco 2 ай бұрын
7:46 No roads, no cars, apart from a very small part of the town. 😊
@pigno56
@pigno56 2 ай бұрын
Answer to your question is, no no cars in the city wich connects the main land to the city by a long bridge. Once reached the out outskirts yo park your car and go by ferry or by boat to visit the city. By the way, I know because I live 30 km from Venice and I was stationed there fo three yers as commander of a special unite that literally baby sitter American tourist for three long an boring tourists.
@Janie_Morrison
@Janie_Morrison 2 ай бұрын
I love watching that video Venice
@qwertylello
@qwertylello 2 ай бұрын
Dennis, the menace of Venice, plays tennis
@anta3612
@anta3612 2 ай бұрын
@4:19 over time the seawater caused the wooden poles to become very hard (like rock). However, since they are placed on clay (not bedrock) the weight of the buildings has caused them to sink at about 1 - 2 mm a year. Venice is a sinking city for this very reason.
@leonardoasciano2787
@leonardoasciano2787 2 ай бұрын
It made me laugh to read "4 times older than US" as if it's a long time ahaha nice video btw
@JdMsk
@JdMsk 2 ай бұрын
You should watch better doc "Venice: Building a floating city". There are more details on this subject.
@lucianorosarelli-xr5lr
@lucianorosarelli-xr5lr 2 ай бұрын
for us i am venician we said ( wheb the water touch your ass belive me u lern to swim)
@joecachia2
@joecachia2 2 ай бұрын
Nope . no cars in venice itself. The closest are on the mainland , and after a week in venice , the first thing that shocks you when you leave is the cars. You get so used to life without cars. There are streets that are just a metre in width , 2 people cannot walk in them next to each other easily
@Bramfly
@Bramfly 2 ай бұрын
Amsterdam is built on wooden poles as well 😊
@giuseppebordonaro365
@giuseppebordonaro365 2 ай бұрын
Secoli dopo la nascita di Venezia 😊😊
@Ale.Traffy
@Ale.Traffy 2 ай бұрын
No cars in Venice. Never
@barbarafrittoli5649
@barbarafrittoli5649 2 ай бұрын
No cars ever!
@Bramfly
@Bramfly 2 ай бұрын
My city Utrecht(50 AD) is 8 times older than the US 😊
@Moribax85
@Moribax85 2 ай бұрын
Well, the town where I was born was founded during the Iron Age as the capital of the Paleo-Venetii. It predates both the Romans and what we call the Ancient Greeks. That town was already there when the Phoenicians started making colonies around the Mediterranean, and in its museum are phoenician artifacts that were found in the area, probably traded for amber.
@user.414
@user.414 2 ай бұрын
I am Italian, I visited Utrecht in 1997, it's so beautiful, much better then Amsterdam in my opinion
@martinbynion1589
@martinbynion1589 2 ай бұрын
Venice four times older than the USA? Yep, Venice IS a pretty recent city... 🙂
@erosgritti5171
@erosgritti5171 2 ай бұрын
False. There are settlements 20 thousand years old in Italy. But that doesn't mean the city is those years old. Cities change over the centuries, but few cities have remained almost unchanged like Venice. So I would say that among the cities that keep most of their historic buildings, it is one of the oldest.
@mariluzane2648
@mariluzane2648 2 ай бұрын
🙄 for all Americans: yes the entire world, including Venice, is older than the United States, get over it
@emanueleartusi5572
@emanueleartusi5572 2 ай бұрын
​@@mariluzane2648 Everything in Italy is older then US... Some part of the 11 aqueducts of ancient Rome are still in operation after 2,300 years
@alemassa6632
@alemassa6632 2 ай бұрын
No, in Venice there are no cars.... you can arrive by train.
@slopermarco
@slopermarco 2 ай бұрын
Paradoxically, we have Venice "thanks" to the Huns. 🤐
@jimb9063
@jimb9063 2 ай бұрын
That's why it's such a special place for me. Not positioned there for "good" reasons like most cities, but out of desperation, and look what they did. Should give everyone hope that good things and beauty can come from adversity.
@andreacestaro9630
@andreacestaro9630 2 ай бұрын
ghe sboro
@LalaDepala_00
@LalaDepala_00 2 ай бұрын
Venice 🤝 Netherlands
@loryt690
@loryt690 2 ай бұрын
italian were just genius, from roman to like some decade ago, now a bit less
@pp38pp
@pp38pp 2 ай бұрын
For two thousand years, Italians have invented culture, art, science, law and the foundations of economic science for the entire world. Now it is right that they rest a little and that others do something too... 😜
@loryt690
@loryt690 2 ай бұрын
@@pp38pp nah, if you have a racing horse you make it run all the day while the donkey stay home. Italians also this years have proven to be the top of everything if only they actually work, the point is that politically and economically isn t possible
@pp38pp
@pp38pp 2 ай бұрын
@@loryt690 It's obvious you've never had a racehorse. If he runs all day... he'll die.
@loryt690
@loryt690 2 ай бұрын
@@pp38pp is a way of saying of course a horse can t run 24h but you don t race with a donkey if you have an horse
@alessandrobernardi9347
@alessandrobernardi9347 2 ай бұрын
Ma veramente gli americani pensano che prima di Colombo il mondo non esisteva ?
@lupodelupis3672
@lupodelupis3672 2 ай бұрын
Bè chi non ha mai aperto un libro di storia si (e ce ne sono parecchi di ignoranti specialmente tra i cosiddetti redneck, che tradurrei in zoticoni), ma a scuola insegnano anche la storia dell' Antica Grecia e dell' Antica Roma, per esempio. Per esempio Capitol (la traduzione di Campidoglio) Hill, dove ha sede il Congresso americano, è in stile Neoclassico che riprendeva l'architettura classica greca e romana.
@user.414
@user.414 2 ай бұрын
ma poi l'Americano vero è l'indiano, per altro cacciato dalla sua terra e rilegato in riserve ridicole se non sterminato. Gli attuali Americani sono tutti discendenti di coloni Europei emigrati o africani.
@alessandro7805
@alessandro7805 2 ай бұрын
Apparte i casi umani non credo, però secondo me gli viene molto difficile comprendere il concetto di vecchio o antico. Per loro il 1776 è antico, per noi in ambito storico è come se fosse l'altro ieri. Aggiungiamoci in oltre che probabilmente per una serie di motivi non solo geografici probabilmente non sanno come sia il mondo "là fuori", probabilmente quando vanno in Europa pensano di stare andando semplicemente in una città simile alla loro ma in un altro continente e poi rimangono meravigliati dalle innumerevoli differenze
@GypsyKseven
@GypsyKseven 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting!
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock 2 ай бұрын
Reaction videos, for when you are so insignificant and inconsequential that you have to mooch off actual content to delude yourself into having even the least bit of relevance.
@jimb9063
@jimb9063 2 ай бұрын
Insignificant, inconsequential, and not of relevance. Yet you chose to leave a comment. Two possibilities. You don't actually agree with what you stated, or you wouldn't have left a post. Or, you consider your posts to be insignificant and inconsequential, as you are leaving them somewhere which you believe is in itself insignificant or inconsequential. Either way, it's a bit silly.
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock 2 ай бұрын
@@jimb9063 You know, that would actually work as a comeback … if those two things were actually mutually exclusive. By all means feel free to try again to sound smart, but by no means feel obligated to do so, hint-hint.
@jimb9063
@jimb9063 2 ай бұрын
@@Anvilshock It worked, you bit.
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock 2 ай бұрын
@@jimb9063 Wow, a "no u" response. What are you, five?
@pp38pp
@pp38pp 2 ай бұрын
Italy has always been the richest country in the world for 2000 years, until the 17th century. Then it has always remained among the top 5 economies in the world. Only in recent decades, with the development of Korea, Japan and China has it slipped to 9th place. Only a truly ignorant person could not know this.
@Queerz4Palestein
@Queerz4Palestein 2 ай бұрын
ITALY IS JUST OLD BUILDINGS, NO AIR, NO WATER, VERY POOR
@erosgritti5171
@erosgritti5171 2 ай бұрын
True, we are only among the top 10 richest countries out of 200... bad trolling.
@mariluzane2648
@mariluzane2648 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Jarni1979
@Jarni1979 2 ай бұрын
poor? Italy is 9th in the GDP list
@Moribax85
@Moribax85 2 ай бұрын
@@erosgritti5171 what do you expect from someone with that name? He/she is not intelligent enough to understand that him/her being queer would mean a death sentence in Palestine, thanks to Hamas' religious fanatism, do you pretend he/she understands economics?
@MaddalenaMalaspinaG
@MaddalenaMalaspinaG 2 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right! It is all true! I am Venetian and I know it. Please don'tt come here!!! Stay away! Go be tourists somewhere else please.
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