American Reacts to Australian Muscle Cars VS American Muscle Cars - Phillip Island

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[@MickeyStartraveller]

Perfect example of a 'flow track". Modern track designs with those parking lot chicanes just don't have it anymore.

[@Aaron_Hanson]

I’m a Holden bloke but damn that shaker dancing out of the bonnet always has me feeling the vibe! 🍻🍻🇦🇺

[@micksmith-vt5yi]

Yea my brother in law built this awesome SLR 5000 and he put the GT shaker on it, was different and cool because of that.

[@Aaron_Hanson]

@@micksmith-vt5yi I used to own an LH SLR5000 mock up… Man what I would give to still have it 😫

[@omaopa6923]

I’m an old lady but have always been a Holden lover

[@Aaron_Hanson]

@@omaopa6923 age plays no part in good taste 😊👌

[@micksmith-vt5yi]

@@Aaron_Hanson Yea same and put a 454 BBC in mine but had issues getting a sump to fit it and then went back to a stroker 304 set up..

[@Denarkwaes]

Fun fact, there was a movie made in 1982 called "Running On Empty" where the main character used a GT-HO in street races, its on youtube and definitely worth a watch

[@siryogiwan]

def worth a watch

[@Aquarium-Downunder]

Running on empty on youtube kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpzSd2WwpJ2Lh7M

[@optimusmaximus9646]

G'day, Ian. The 1971 Ford XY Falcon GT-HO (Phase III) claimed a single Bathurst crown (Allan Moffatt in 1971). Four decades later, it remains Australia's most famous muscle car. The GT-HO wrote the book on Australian muscle-car performance, with its 'shaker' intake and 351 Cleveland poking through the bonnet it was a real beast of a car: 0-100km/h in high-6s, a mid-14 quarter mile, and top speed 227km/h (136 mph).

[@gordonpkm7560]

148mph on camera, set up in the car, in a Auto Weekly back in the day ..

[@optimusmaximus9646]

@@gordonpkm7560 👍🙂

[@charlesemerson6763]

Watching Allan Moffat push an XY GTHO around Bathurst in the James Hardie 1000 was an awesome sight to see. If I remember correctly these cars only had discs on the front and drums on the rear so brake conservation was a must around Bathurst,

[@mikldude9376]

They had different finned drums on the back of the XY race cars .

[@philrichmond5919]

Couldn’t have. Wasn’t the James Hardie 1000 until 1981. Hardie Ferodo 1000 was first held in 1973 and was the first year of group C racing. Prior to that was the Hardie Ferodo 500, a shorter race distance of 500 miles. That’s what you’d have watched Moffatt race a GTHO in. Fun fact, Australia officially changed from miles to kilometres in July 1974, so the Bathurst race changed to km before the road it ran on did.

[@steveheywood9428]

Phillip Island is about 1.5 to 2 hours SE of Melbourne, and the 1971 Falcon i heard was the worlds fastest production car at the time. Examples of the 71 XY are now worth a mint.

[@feckstick2996]

It was the fastest four door car back then, a Lamborghini in 1971 was fastest car in the world at about 180 mph

[@johncunningham4820]

Ford ( Aust ) Falcon XY - GTHO . 351 Cleveland Powered . The HO in the Model Designation stands for " Handling Option " . Fastest 4 - door car in the World at its time . Brutal . P.S. The Bike Riders LOVE Phillip Island . That tells you something .

[@Twenty_Six_Hundred]

pretty sure it's High Output

[@DeepThought9999]

@@Twenty_Six_Hundred”Handling Options” is what we were told by motoring journalists (on behalf of Ford) at the time and, although it was just marketing talk, the GTHO was an improvement over the vanilla GT in various ways, they said. The GTHO was intended to be (and was) more competitive at Bathurst, so Ford could sell more cars (and not just GTHOs) starting on the Monday after the race. edited: inserted a previously missed comma and reworded in a couple of places to make a clarification

[@Twenty_Six_Hundred]

@@DeepThought9999 The air cleaner cover has High Output written in big letters. Only the HOs had this were as the GT did not. Other engines like some Tickford engines were also labled as High Output variants

[@arkhsm]

@@DeepThought9999 Petty sure it was Ford that came up with WIN ON SUNDAY, SELL ON MONDAY !!

[@gibbsey9579]

@@Twenty_Six_Hundred As I remember it, Ford was concerned about what the insurance companys might charge for cover so with a quick rethink they changed it to "Handling option". They also reduced the claimed power output.

[@simbob26]

Before the V8 Supercars there was the Australian Touring Car Championship. The Group A cars (until Group 3A) all used a Hollinger GRA5 and RD6 5 and 6-speed H pattern dog-shifting gearbox. They were awesome to watch. The sequential boxes in the later cars took a little bit of the soul of the racecar away…

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

I stopped following it when they ended the touring car championship.

[@davecalneggia6285]

... Mate you will love all the old Bathurst footage... All the old classics racing in their prime .. the footage is all out there on yt to find

[@zaccat693]

Phillip Island is a very pretty track with views of Bass Strait, the ocean between Victoria and Tasmania.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

IF you are looking at Bass Straight you are way slow!

[@gemcruiser6082]

My parents burned through three ford V8s every two years from '68 to '74 so I was on my L plates in 351 fords. I drove my first XY GTHO before I was 17. Then in my working life I became a cop and had unmarked 5.8 litre fords home garaged for about 4 years deploying operationally around Australia. Those fords were great to drive in their standard trim and a pleasure to work the civilans with. Problem I found was the engine mounts when in one sustained harsh run (max torque/min torque) for 45 minutes I tore left and front engine mounts and fan shroud. Quick trip to the workshop and the unit was back on road in 90 minutes. Of course my vehicles were distant cousins from a well setup race vehicle.

[@paulocarvalho6480]

Holy Moses! That Falcon sounds brutally amazing.

[@hudsonsled454]

Xy would have a 351 Cleveland top loader 4 speed and 9". Mustangs would have been Windsor powered 289, 302, Camaro maybe a 302, 327, or 350?

[@arkhsm]

'69/'70 Mustang in this series are a Boss 302 to be competitive !!

[@kanenstuff]

My old neighbor has a GTHO and when he was young the burnouts he always done were crazy and the car is stil going strong.

[@fox22m]

I love to see all the old muscle cars that they did all racing together now thst would be one hell of a race

[@austenmoore9782]

My uncle had a 71 XY GTHO. We shared a bday, every 15th July he would take me out for a spin! I can still hear and smell that car.

[@shamusbundy2982]

You've got to watch Eric Banner 's movie about his car. Check out "Love the BEAST".

[@davenorman8251]

Muscle Car Masters racing is freakin awesome.

[@AUmarcus]

Off in the distance when heading down the straight is Bass Strait which seperates the mainland from Tasmania.

[@AmplifiedBluesHarmonica]

Love your channel. Hope you and family are well, Ian!! Cheers from Oz…. 👍🏼

[@Wolfe351]

you have to remember too the old XY GT has leaf spring rear suspension....I had a 250cu straight 6powered XY many years ago so much fun to drive hard thru the twisty bits here in the hills with the windows down and listening to the twin exhaust howl off the cliff faces.. miss that car!

[@Lionizeu21]

@Wolfe351, I had an XA Falcon 250Ci2V with a 4 speed Top Loader, It had factory tri-y headers that flowed thru a twin exhaust. The sound was great and a lot thought it had a V8 under the bonnet. I miss that car also.

[@arkhsm]

@@Lionizeu21 Love the oddball 2V, and somehow they CAN sound like a V8, especially at idle with a hotter camshaft !!

[@fox22m]

This is good clean racing the way they take the corners without the car going in to a slide is how racing should be done love to see this

[@suem7515]

I was lucky enough to spend a day on the Phillip Island track, both driving myself and hot laps with professional drivers. It was a lot of fun, though I only got to 220km/h on the straight, with others going faster. Still, great experience!

[@mikldude9376]

The old phase 3 GTHO was said to have 500 modifications over the standard GT , so allegedly you could drive it off the showroom floor and race . i`ve driven a couple of them just putting around , one of them was actually a race car being prepared for sale a well known red one that raced around bathurst by a very famous driver :) , it was very much a tool and quite rough around the edges . a friend of my old man had a beautiful white XY GT , a non GTHO with a three speed auto , and it was a fantastic cruiser , 351 clevo power with the auto , so smooth , a really cool car . The old XY GT was always my dream car , but way out of reach for a peasant :) .

[@cudwieser3952]

Phillip Island is an all round beautiful bit of Australia. It's a nice Idyll with great nature, climate and plenty for sportsmen and tourists :)

[@1ihws]

Just watch out for the errant wallabies that like to jump out at dusk and destroy jeep front ends - and the local mechanics; there’s only one down there I’d ever trust a vehicle with if I wasn’t intending to die in a hurry.

[@vinniamsterdam700]

A car that is a handful, but you can work with, is a ton of fun.😊

[@IcanbePsycho]

Absolutely loved Bathurst in the mid 70’s, Holden vs Ford & taking the bends on 2 wheels ❤️

[@1998TDM]

I love Phillip Island, it's a big balls circuit.

[@terryrobison]

I have ridden that track on a superbike (1000cc twin). That track is wide, but gets narrow at speed :) Nice elevation changes as well.

[@stevemcintyre4398]

Gotta luv a 351 Cleveland !

[@bradcarby3765]

It's so awesome to see and hear all those beasts running around. I had a '77 xc falcon that was so loud and so "fast" it wasn't funny, but the sad fact is, technology has moved on so far that my current 2.3 litre twin turbo diesel Navara probably shits all over it.

[@nathanspeed9683]

I hope you get that opportunity one day to drive a classic Australian muscle car!

[@shane35188]

Need some more skid videos

[@PETERWATT-ly5yt]

Phillip island was updated mainly so they could hold the world motorcycle GP ROUND Iin Victoria

[@Shattered65]

My late father was in the management at Broadmeadows in 1971 and was in charge of putting the GTHO's down the production line. I can tell you that the official stat's on these cars were lies for the sake of the government that was getting a backlash about the powerful vehicles being produced at the time. The XY GTHO Phase 3 Falcons were actually the most powerful and fastest production car ever built at the time. That includes Ferrari and Lamborghini the humble Falcon was built to race specs and the company lied in their own brochures about the specs to try to stop the government from banning them. The following year Ford, Holden and Chrysler paid the price in anti-pollution and horsepower limits and the Australian muscle car era in Australia came to an end.

[@robshannon6637]

Thanks Ian for doing a non GMH/Holden video. This Ford sounds incredible! Think my ears just had a climax 😂

[@arkhsm]

WAY better audio is Ian's American reacts to Bathurst - 41st to 3rd in 3 laps enjoy !!

[@bryndaldwyre3099]

It's a XY Phase III GTHO Falcon with a Cleveland 351ci small block V8. Had a top speed of around 160MPH.

[@mikldude9376]

Those older cars where so much more fun to watch than modern aussie racing , the modern ones are too clinical , to well behaved .

[@martinfinn674]

The "Mustang" you said about is actually an XA Falcon 2 door GT HO

[@mikeythehat6693]

The Motorcycle Grand Prix is still raced at Phillip Island every year Ian, you could watch that for your fix of the track.

[@alwynemcintyre2184]

Ah ford falcon GTHO phase 3 what a weapon of a car

[@brianmcdonald517]

Ford Falcon XY GTHO did own the fastest 4 door production car in the world for 28yrs, best thing to drive a gt watching the shaker

[@johnd8892]

News in my feed today was from Drive was that a new low volume car company called Drive South says it will begin reproducing the LX Torana hatch design from the 1970s utilising modern manufacturing techniques, powered using a similar 6.2-litre V8 fitted to late-model Holdens. The vehicle will utilise fibreglass composite bodywork fitted to an aluminium chassis - inspired by V8 Supercars - fleshed out using CAD (computer-aided design), with 95 per cent of the components to be manufactured in Australia. Road legal and priced around $250,000. It will be interesting to see how that develops.

[@davidcruse6589]

351 Cleveland with holly carburettor top loader 4 speed with 9 inch rear end / differential If you open the bonnet / hood they are pretty much the same Both design similar but Aussie car lighter and possibly slightly narrow The Aussie cars suffer from narrow tyres where's usa vechiles can get wider wheels on them Cheers mate 🦘🇦🇺👍

[@trevorjohnston9504]

They are called touring car masters

[@mikldude9376]

Indeed , all muscle cars are cool , and lets face it , its all your USA influence we aussies went down the muscle car road :) ( thank you for that ) , my old man had a ford customline 5A model , my first Ford V8 was a 1967 XR falcon with a 289 in it which ended up quiet warmed up and got me into a lot of trouble as a young bloke :) , nothing like a V8 mate :) . A couple of my favorite american muscle cars , the 82 corvette , and the trans am like smoky and the bandit .

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

If you like this, you'll like any of the old Bathurst races and if you want to see what Phillip Island is all about, check out Moto GP races.

[@danypassa5040]

Even a Holden guy has a favourite Ford Falcon GT

[@Pablo668]

Glad you like our muscle cars. The GT HO is close to being, if not straight out, our most legendary muscle car. Ford kept producing V8 Falcons up until 85 I think. I often wonder what our cousins over the pond think of what we did with the Falcon over here. I'm actually more of a GM guy, or was. Now I just love em all.

[@boatymcboatface666]

Ian, have you covered an of the Australian Improved Production Class? Check out some kiwi racing at Pukekohe❤

[@UncleJoeLITE]

Much better than the rubbish "Supercars". Cheers Ian, I'm off to play some GT7! _Statistically, no-one here owns a Camaro & 0.01% own a Mustang..._

[@kahunagaragephotography1155]

I've cruzed that track a few times in my 66 Imperial Crown convertible plus a few other cars at the Custom Nats a few year's back, awesome fun seeing classic's & Custom s cruzin around 😎

[@thejam69]

Superbikes race at Phillip island too. Pretty cool! ❤️🇦🇺

[@markscott2360]

It's one of the best tracks in Australia if not the world if you think the car's are good Ian they used to have the Superbikes and the Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix there have a look at some of that Footage It's absolutely breathtaking watching them come down the straight then have to get them pulled up to get around turn 1 sometimes sideways plenty of crashes It's a shame the bikes don't race there anymore it was fantastic to watch.

[@johnd8892]

Absolutely still race the Moto GP World Championship races there. Just searched KZbin for Australian Moto GP and found an ad for the 2024 race to be held in October as well as highlights for the 2023 and 2022 races. When they stopped racing the Moto GP at the second rate Eastern Creek track, the Moto GP went back to the annual Philip Island Australian Grand Prix there. Surprised you had a different idea.

[@markscott2360]

@@johnd8892 I lost track of it for a while due to health and yeah cracked the shits when it went to Eastern Creek it's not even a good car track let alone bike track .

[@brendoncrofts6714]

Hi Ian great work ,check out Ryan Hansford Torana in the touring car masters that thing goes like a rocket

[@gloindigo9658]

Why would America not bring back the falcon? It would be so popular.

[@colinclark7180]

Hi, I reckon you would love this ! ABC Australia - How Australian ingenuity improved Land Rover four wheel drives. It's a terrific look at the history of Land Rover in Oz. Some amazing scenery and terrific old footage. 😊

[@MarekNah]

Gotta watch Mustangs Vs minis racing

[@arkhsm]

At Goodwood revival !!

[@Jaibee27]

Have you reacted to the bogan getaway that happened recently in Australia? It's definitely worth reacting to. Its on dashcams Australia titled something like guy stole mercedes then crashes. But if you search bogan getaway it will be in the top results. That guy can driiiiive 😂

[@kevinsummersford4112]

I didn't get the privilege to born in the years these beautiful beast of a cr came both ford and Holden but being born 1985 as I grew up I remember watching the car racing of the 80s and 90s which I loved then I got into the old school racing and loved it

[@rogerreed905]

One of those ,an original road going falcon in mint condition will now cost around the 100k . . Which is over 200k australian . . I think 1 i saw was 250k . . . Phase 3 or 4 . .

[@Aaron_Hanson]

Try $600k - $1+million

[@UncleJoeLITE]

And if you can afford that, you can afford to build a replica to go racing with! =)

[@Aaron_Hanson]

@@UncleJoeLITE if I had that kind of lazy coin laying around, I’d build an LXSS hatch 😍

[@rogerreed905]

@@Aaron_Hanson wow . . Amazing prices . . Cheers for the update🍻👍🇳🇿twa

[@matton36]

The Falcon is actually based on the US Falcon, it has a mustang floor pan and an American engine gearbox and diff, so its an American car made by an American company as much as Holden Torana is an American general Motors product and 1971 Chevy Vega inspired, it does have some Aussie input in it however with the 308 and the gearbox. The heads on original 351 GT Phase 3 Falcons were 4 V with huge ports. Im unsure if these heads were available in the US or not.

[@arkhsm]

The difference is, the XY was an Aussie only update of the '66 body style US Falcon; and the Aussie's raced mainly 4 door sedans. In '73 the Aussie's sucessfully raced the XA 2dr Coupe, a totally Aus. body style under a newer set of more liberal regulations !!

[@matton36]

@@arkhsm Agreed, The XA was the most Australian Falcon to date. The XY was XR based which was US like the XP was to the XL with the XL being US and the XM-P a Aus derivative.

[@arkhsm]

Pull the pin and hold on !!

[@thisismylife4446]

Hey i dont know if you seen the channel your nea zealand family on youtube but they doing a tour of america at the moment

[@DavidFaulkner-ww1pu]

hi mate this david for the gold coast i have a must watch clip its called REACTION TO TAKING AN F1 CAR INTO THE AUSTRA;IAN OUTBACK WITH DANIEL RICCIARDO ITS VERY GOOD PLEASE CONCIDER IT DAVID THANKS MATE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK HOPE TO SEE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY DOWN UNDER ONE DAY

[@BertfromBelgium]

ever thought of covering pro league soccer games?, it is big in Europe, its like american football is in the USA, the chanting of the crowds will give you goosebumps, and you will have a favorite team after a while,

[@alexandriabrangwin]

Very long gears in the GTHO, so on those straights the American's are all outta teeth.

[@zaccat693]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2rRgalpedSsf9Esi=BbB76S-t1LnEkPOm Even has an old Citroen in one race

[@user-qt5cy5ej1g]

You talk about not finding out about Aussie racing existed with KZbin has bought a lot to people’s lives you found racing Aussie trucking i watch a lot of reactions clips Americans travelling Australia mate I’m seeing things and places I never even heard of I’m 62 still learning shit about my country but it’s a get tool if we wanted to find out anything when I was young we would have to read books but now you type in anything and you can find out about it

[@-sandman4605]

🙂

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Camera car is an XY Falcon. Near certain a mockup as real GTs are way to expensive to race.GpN racing is for pre 72 Touring Cars. Mustangs are the head of the pack as they are fairly light and have less drag than the Australian classics. The XYs are about as aerodynamic as a block of flats. PI requires speed, a light car with decent aero will always be faster. When this is I dont know, I recognise some of those cars. By the handling I expect they are on bias belt Hoosier tyres which to me always defied logic as they are terrible. Many used Yokohama radials which while not much faster over a lap were far easier to drive on. And far more consistent. But for some reason Yokohama stopped making the suitable sizes. America cannot make any decent tyres!! Blue Mustang is a Boss 302. Stuart Barnes, lovely car but average driver. Was a SA local car now gone interstate. Find some Sports Sedans at PI. A lot faster and wilder. I used to race them. Near 600hp and weighed 1010 kilos with me in it.

[@1ihws]

I definitely agree with your comments on XY falcons, especially at P.I. Remembering the days pre-1978 of closed club circuit racing at Phillip Island, and all the dirt roads that we ‘locals’ used to thrash on, and those people who encouraged those exploits is still rather amusing for me - especially because some folks just don’t think old ladies of almost sixty two years old can remember anything at all of their very early motorsport days, including what a goat track the Phillip Island motor racing circuit became after Len Lukey sold it. Gone is the old chickory kiln that served us as the main race office for decades; gone are the days of camping for weekends of closed club meetings; now the place is an overly commercialised millionaires club. Progress is one thing - a bit of respect for motorsport pioneer’s would go a bloody long way!

[@namoi45]

This is a proper race track especially made for motorbikes, Rossi won there many times. It's not like a NASCAR circle tracks, so boring.

[@shawnhill7504]

Old school cool .😎

[@jimclarke1108]

Oi oi oi🏁

[@dennispower5362]

This was grouse

[@thisismylife4446]

New lol

[@Aaron_Hanson]

4 comments and 3 were bots 🤦‍♂️ SMH… no channel is safe.

[@Rassskle]

These modern day " masters " cars are NOT original and run modern mechanicals and power trains. Back in the day, the Falcon GT HO 's had their own imperious sound that every car lover loved.....very different to these cars. The Falcon GT's were similar in performance to the Amrrican equivelant, but the GTHO's were improved everywhere possible to win Bathurst carrying the extra weight of the 50 gallon fuel tank. The driver in this video appears to be steering the beast with the steering wheel.......like every other loser. Out of all the drivers who raced the GTHO's only 2 were ever really quick in them......Allan Moffit and John Goss. These cars were too big and too heavy to race, and not quick with normal driving styles. Moffat and Goss both used the steering wheel to set up the corner, and then used the engines torque to steer......yet both drivers were able to make the tyres last. The top level touring cars and drivers ( cars we could buy and drive on the roads ) were often QUICKER than the improved sports sedans ( same cars with bigger race engines and race brakes / suspension ). Brock was a driving geniouse and super star, but read up on Moffats true beginnings , his start in a dealer bought show room Lotus Cortina GT road car ( 50 hp less than the factory race Cortinas ), then his first time in a Cologne Capri 3100 on an American track he had never raced on before...... ( a privateers race car ) ....he made the Ford factory Capri's and drivers look like turtles as well as the No2 Turbo BMW. The No1 BMW had to drive past the red line to stay ahead of Moffat in the much slower car. Im short, Brocks Australian career in the best prepared Race Cars is unrivaled, but Moffats Internatiomal career in slow privateers cars is even better. Their is videos of Moffat embarrassing V8 muscle cars in America, driving his American Cortina GT. lol

[@colinmiles9390]

I’d hate to tell all my American brothers, the American V8s weren’t able to survive against the Aussie vehicles as ours out powered them all especially on cornering and especially on the straights.

[@mickmammen7168]

from my opinion if you really want some decent Aussie cars, the HT Premier, FC Holden and EH Holden's are my go to

[@simbob26]

All are iconic cars, but none are “muscle cars”. From that list only the HT had a V8 option… although the 350 was a wicked choice!