American Reacts to How Germany Is SECRETLY Beating The US With These | German vs American Malls

[@ChristopherLRussell]

Hello Charlie! Hey thanks for the love on the vid. I (algorithmically) discovered your channel through this very reaction and now I'm a fan because I like your work. THANKS! - So I lived in Germany for just over three years while serving in the US military. Left, for another five years and separated the service, then returned to Germany as a civilian in 2016. So you were close, total nine years. - You would be doing VERY well to move to The Netherlands. I've been there more times than any other place in Europe. - I won't become or start a PRIMARY reaction channel, only incorporate a few on the main channel. - Finally...IF ONLY Apple was to send me product.😞 - Thanks again, my friend. Take care.👍🏾

[@arnodobler1096]

Hi Chris 🙋‍♂️

[@RenegadeGamer0420]

if Oberhausen is near your place, where do you stay?

[@ChristopherLRussell]

@@arnodobler1096 hey friend.

[@ChristopherLRussell]

@@RenegadeGamer0420 I’m nearer to the Kaiserslautern area.

[@tobiasrost633]

it feels like all companys starting to pull out of usa before shit hits the fan, and start invest in EU instead

[@irissupercoolsy]

I live in Belgium and it's funny how he accented all the American stores that I have never been to but just walked by and skipped the stores I often shop to haha

[@Ronny_van_Gerwen]

Nordsee means North Sea, or Noordzee in Dutch. Not Norwegian food. My wife loves the bookstores in Germany, very big and lots of choice. Way better than in the Netherlands or Belgium

[@Fiercesoulking]

Yeah it is or was(sold) a Germany restaurant chain around north German seafood culture as theme but a bit more on the fast food side.

[@schtreg9140]

"I didn't have any friends" :') Bro hug

[@georgeorwell7291]

Did you notice that the mal is not just surrounded by a huge parking lot.... so you can have a nice walk do something outside and grab a bite to eat inside.... I believe thats what is one of the biggest problem here in North america... the parking lot obsession.... city centers look like crap compared.

[@jurgens1987]

There is a huge parking lot 4 i believe But its multilevel Years ago its calls centro What you seen on the video was the main entree

[@peterloubele6788]

I go to the city 5min by bicycle 10min by bus and find alk of that to. And in the "fresh"air.not in a hangar like concrete building🙄😷

[@MsAaannaaa]

I think it's again and again related to the car centric approach to city planning.

[@peterloubele6788]

I walk 5min and have everything from food to clothes drugstore etc etc

[@johnuferbach9166]

Usually the malls have the parking lot on top here, so you have like 2 - 3 levels of shops and then 2 - 3 levels of parking on top

[@DidierWierdsma6335]

There is also a Westfield mall here in the Netherlands and yes the Jetsons and the Flinstones also was on the TV over here in Europe and the Netherlands. Great reaction btw keep it up👍 And greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱

[@kzonedd7718]

Funny thing; USians always tell me how bad the service is at fast food joints, and how much worse it would get if they unionized, etc. etc. And here I am in one of those 'socialist' countries where we do all those things USians think will make workers lazy and etc. ... and I've always had excellent service...

[@mcbonnes]

I live like 20 minutes away from the Centro, but havn't been there for the last 3 years. Outside the mall they have a nice promenade with many bars and restaurants and a big cinema next to it. As far as I know and nothing has changed, the Centro Mall might be the biggest mall in Europe. In my early 20s we were there at least 1-2 times a month. Mostly for the cinema and drinks afterwards. But many cities have "outside malls" or "Fußgängerzonen" with the shops on groundlevel and apartments on the upper floors. If you move to the Netherlands, Oberhausen is not that far away and easily reachable by train.

[@wigglywuf5982]

me too, live 40 minutes away from the centro and only been there a year after they opend - to eat at the planet hollywood 😉 - die sind mit ihrem konzept so schnell gegangen wie sie gekommen waren: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gonalnmupN2oeK8

[@Br10a.]

Yes i also live nearby

[@ohauss]

The largest in Germany, yes. Continental Europe, maybe. Largest in Europe is in Gateshead, UK, the Metrocentre.

[@HiopX]

German Malls still can't compete with "Einkaufstraßen" shopping streets like "Zeil" or "Schildergasse" are by far the economic centers of there city. Because those are perfectly integrated into the city, while Malls are giant buildings that need space to be build and therefore are more often at the edge

[@ohauss]

You'd think, but there are some German cities who had the bright idea of putting several malls within walking distance of the city center and then were all surprised that their Einkaufsstraße died...

[@lhuras.]

In Dresden the Mall was build right into the City after they had to rebuild it after the 2002 flood destroyed most of the places.

[@TheCovenant2]

Yep, love shopping streets more too :D I actually dont like malls and only go there if in near it anyway and really need something. Its to crammed with people imo - and me, the socialphobe aint likin that :D

[@swanpride]

@@ohauss Usually I see more the set-up that the mall is integrated with the Einkaufstraße...basically on the one end is is the main train station, and the mall on the other end. I like the combination.

[@eve-llblyat2576]

But its not like Germany is beating anything. Almost all Malls have 20-40% closed stores. Many malls closed down already. Only the big and most famose malls still work fine. Same decline in Einkaufstraßen which getting more and more empty. You are forced to buy online because stores save money by having less storage place so often you can get what you want online.

[@DJDoena]

Galeria Kaufhof and Karstadt are two old-time department stores that predate the malls. It's comparable to Macy's. Kaufhof and Karstadt merged about two decades ago because the concept of department stores was dying (and still is). There are still a few stores open but basically only because no buyer has been found yet and the parent company keeps them alive for some reason.

[@thorstenmuller8898]

If you move to the Netherlands, Oberhausen isn`t too far off from the Netherlands, like for example Venlo, a nice town in the Netherlands near the german border, it`s around a 2 hour drive to Oberhausen Centro Mall. Considering moving to the Netherlands, a town near the german border, many dutch people go to Germany because Gas is much cheaper and also are the convenience stores.

[@patrickschindler6781]

That reminds me of the arena in Lahr, there are electronic shops, a bakery, a shoe shop, a bank, a clothes shop, restaurants, a coffee shop and a library in one building.

[@majordisorder73]

I'm from Belgium and we have in our town center a mall, right between de many stores in the streets where only pedestrians (and bikes) are allowed

[@johnah2]

We had a mall when I grew up in a small town in Nebraska. I think he's lived there for about 5 years out of the military. I'm not certain how long he lived in Germany with the military, 2-5 years? So total 7-10 years? This gave me 80's feels all over!! Chris does reactions once in a while. He is more of a content creator instead of just reactions. Chris got it wrong and he corrected it in text, it was Mr. Chicken. Nordsee is German for North Sea. Not Norwegian food, sorry. Fish restaurant. Sorry Charlie, I'm a Mac guy. I can work with Windows but my design programs grew out of Apple which is what I started on back in the 1990's. Great video Charlie. Nice commentary.

[@Aylasuki]

Gotta love malls, in Belgium there is the Wijnegem shopping center, looks super cool and it's always busy so can't see that declining any time soon. In Hilversum there is a smaller mall in the middle of the shopping area, so you have the mall, outside there is streets with shops and restaurants, and last we also have "woonmalls" which is a mall with furniture/kitchen/bathroom shops, the one in Rotterdam Alexandrium is especially unique because they built the mall around an old house, and now that house is used by one shop as a big display for their products, it's called the "Polderhuis".

[@amenhotepthethird209]

Another Android guy here, I have never owned an Apple device (nor will I). I live in the UK, my son has been to Germany and loved it, he speaks German reasonably well. If he goes to live there, i'll be visiting regularly and maybe even stay there, LOL.

[@sasagreen5994]

I love that Pink Floyd Poster! I bought a really big version for my fathers birthday, but secretly wished I could have kept it 😄

[@birgittalagerstrom6264]

We have Mall of Scandinavia just outside Stockholm, Sweden. Over 250 stores on 5 floors.

[@royklein9206]

I live 40 minutes from Oberhausen and I go to the christmas market at Centro every year! Love it :)

[@axMf3qTI]

Yeah Germans are known to look happy... . I don't get malls, they got the same big brand stores that you see in every shopping street, you kinda need a car to visit them and they look tacky. If you go to the center you can do your shopping get some food or get a few beers at a bar and bike home.

[@berth2647]

I love German fleemarkets,, a lot of them are on the parking place of the big malls , the malls are closed at sunday. not all but a lot In the Netherlands a lot of malls are open at sunday , and Germans come to the Dutch malls In Europe we have also Malls outside the center of the town just like in the USA

[@peterloubele6788]

I dont know if you ever have seen the American series where they buy-up storage/garage boxes? The things they give a taxation over is😲of a for me (Not only me.i recon)Here in the netherland not even the salvation army want it!If i would have money.I ship containers to THE US. And make 💩loads of money😆😃😉😄

[@jurgenseehase6500]

The shown train station is Kaiserslautern Mainstation :D at least the recognizable Building, that is shown looks like the one at Kaiserslautern Mainstation. It's close to Ramstein, so pretty populated by a lot of american people :)

[@M.S.M.111]

Grüße aus KL 😁

[@michelstoel2921]

There's this story of some guys finding an empty space inside a new build mall, and they started moving in. That's hilarious

[@schiffelers3944]

Nordsee means North Sea, where a lot of fish gets caught. It is a fish shop, very typical in Germany like that.

[@M.S.M.111]

The Centro in Oberhausen is the biggest Mall in Germany and they're going to expand, in our area we have a Fashion Outlet (Zweibrücken) where you can get some great bargains of International Brands like Nike, TH, CK, Armani etc etc etc, many french ppl(close to the french border) come to shop here as well

[@IchSaluki74]

Used to be called CentrO, There is even a little Legoland next door, Funnily we did not go to a Mall to hang out, but strolled through the shopping streets (outside), though department stores (way more common then), sitting on the swings on a playground at night getting Take away pizza, because they always gave a free bottle of wine with it. Because mostly we were broke :-) Ahh, the 90ties! Grew up in Essen, a neighboring city of Oberhausen. and just a stone through away from Venlo/NL.

[@LexusLFA554]

My favorite mall has to be the Citygalerie in Augsburg. What a chonk of a building.

[@w83official]

We have a Westfield mall in the Netherlands as well!

[@schiffelers3944]

Jetsons & other Hanna-barbera etc. we also had, in Germany it was spoken over in German, in the Netherlands it was in its original language.

[@Average_Bruh]

I live in Frankfurt, Germany. The malls are not as close as you might think and things definitely aren't lively. Germany has many small towns and villages that has no mall. Malls are usually found in the city centre and iin some areas in the city that has a high volume of business and residence around.

[@gregmullins6927]

Westfield is an Australian company they own shopping malls in Australia too.

[@sonny_z900]

My brother and I went there last week, before COVID we'd go every 3 months or so to do some shopping there. It's very big and the + is the free parking and toilets. Very clean. It's about a 90 min drive from the Netherlands, Utrecht. Before Covid it was just called "Centro" but it seems Westfield took it over and is now Westfield Centro. The food court has been remodeled with more places to sit upstairs and an escalator.

[@1010sky]

So this mall is very big and you can do everything there incl. concerts in a arena direct behind. There is also lots of free parking, a big cinema, a park, a musical theater near by and so on. Oberhausen belongs to the „Rhein/Ruhr metropole“ with around 10M people in the sorounding area. Also it is near to the NL border and espec. at Xmas every second person there is dutch even with dutch signs etc. We go to shop in Venlo in the Netherlands and the dutch come to Oberhausen and Düsseldorf in Germany because - why not? 😃

[@PyroApd]

I live in the Netherlands, when i saw the mall in oberhausen i got great flashbacks, when the pokemon go hype was there in it's early years, that was THE spot to go to, chillin in the coca cola arena. which was basically a food court with all diffrent kinds of food store's from the big M and KFC, to indian take off and kebabs, surounded by 14 stops and 3 gyms or something like that, all in reach from 1 single table, eating food all day and let the gotcha do the work, great memory's haha

[@lws7394]

That is quite logical. Pokémon Go was basically an social control experiment in social engineering human behaviour . The goal was to lead people to go to a location ( with commercial purposes to do pirchases at the site so Oberhausen Mall was a logical target !).

[@UltimaDoge]

Strange, the Mall he visited is Called CentrO afaik. I was there just last year. I guess Westfield is the Owner of the Mall

[@caligo7918]

The big malls in Germany are doing good. It's the small ones that are suffering. I live on the outskirts of Berlin and some of the smaller malls out here lost half the stores in the last 5-10 years. Most kept a super market, a clothes store and 1-2 "dollar stores". Add a shop for cell phones, a flower shop and a Dönerbude, you get the base of those malls. There is also often i special store per small mall, a bowling alley, a small cinema, an electronics store or something similarly large. That thing is keeping that mall alive, even if half the shops are empty.

[@evelien30]

I live very close to Den Haag and we have a huge Westfield here in Den Haag. It’s always very crowded

[@irissupercoolsy]

If feel like in Belgium, either in a city, the city is set up like a mall or there is an actual mall. There aren't much successful malls in the big city centers. But more on the outside of them. But there are only a couple of big ones here. The small ones died too.

[@irissupercoolsy]

4:00 if you google something for confirmation, you will always get confirmation. You have to google both "increase of malls" and "decline of malls" to compare the amount and quality of articles. Another rule of the internet.

[@Doortjes51]

Germany is sooo nice

[@reeno1357]

We had two smaller malls in our region in germany. 1 was there for at least 20 years and 1 for 10 and both malls had to close because their owners where greedy people that didnt care for the mall. They doubled the rent for storeowners and didnt put in any money to keep the mall clean or intact. Both malls where closed due to storeowners loosing interest due to the high rents and the malls being dangerous because nobody cared for renovation. Its really sad honestly. There where a lot of jobs in it, 1 of the 2 malls had multiple restaurants (with an absolutely awesome greek, like seriously, i travelled around the world already but never did i have greek food that good), a hall for ice scating, a bowling centre, small casinos, a cinema,multiple bars and discos, grocery stores, electronic stores, clothing stores, even a gas station and a mcdonalds nearby. The whole town was build around that mall it feels like, and now its gone. I am living in a rural area in germany and interest for a mall was definitely there from the people, let me tell you that. But the mall owners ruined every bit of that.

[@aliveldwijk-cornelissen6160]

We have one in Lelystad.

[@m.h.6470]

It's Mr.Chicken (clearly visible at 13:14), not McChicken. McDonalds would never allow a shop be called like one of their Burgers.

[@mellchiril]

The Jetsons are known worldwide, although I'm guessing that younger people won't really know them, sadly. They're amazing, I loved watching that. I can see the appeal of a shopping mall, being indoors when it rains sounds pretty sweet... but our city centers are basically the same as these large shopping malls, just all outside. I think I prefer that, even though our dear sweet Dutchie land does leave you in soaked clothes a lot of the time while you're out shopping. I do believe we have shopping malls in bigger cities. Not where I live though, we're too tiny for something like that. I think I'm okay with it staying that way.

[@АклызМелкенды]

The mall that I used to visit as a kid is almost dead, but it still works. Kinda interesting to me that back then we used to take minibuses which were and still are crazy inconvenient, despite the fact that there is a tram stop at the same place as a bus stop.

[@stampcollector74]

You are remembering the Jetsons? You are getting old guy. : P ♥ (Of course I know it ... I watched it when I was - let's say a bit younger.)

[@NickNelsons_bigsis]

I KNOW THIS MALL! It is not far from where I live. I think the name "Westfield" is new though as I only know it as "Centro".

[@d.6593]

Alsooo there is a big Westfield mall in the netherlands. But the best Westfield mall I have ever been is in Prague: Westfield Chodov. It's so fucking clean, the toilets were amazing

[@d.6593]

But I prefer the Roermond Outlet Center. It looks more cozy. But its bad on rainy days (which is often) because you have to go out in the rain to get to another store.

[@qazatqazah]

Basically, if people don't have money and time to spend at the mall, it will perish. You're quite right to say that a better work/life balance could just make the difference.

[@RenegadeGamer0420]

And he hasn't even coveered the Centro Promenade and the Centro Park, which are also parts of the mall, but outside, surrounding it. Damn, I need to go there again some time soon, 2 Years not going there is far too long

[@jancleve9635]

That is the Centro Mall in Oberhausen. It is very american and was intended to be. It draws a lot of the dutch over the border. It is not common, we have some malls in germany but they are rare. This spot is already filled with our inner citys. Most inner citys consists of hundreds of shops , bars, restaurant ,etc. The are located around the main train stations and normaly pedestrian zones. Malls take up a lot of space, so it is rare that an investment group can get enough money together to build one. Spacing is a hugh difference, germany is smaller than most US States. Our population density is very high. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3S3oIB6esaYnNE Recommend this for a reaction: Warning! Style is satire and the content is pretty heavy.

[@stevefoulston]

Westfields was listed as a Australian public company on the Sydney Stock Exchange in 1960 and began developing shopping centres in Australia before establishing a business in the US in 1976 and later expanding to New Zealand, the UK and Europe this is exactly like the Westfields store internally at Penrith just down the road from my place in Australia. Android also for me TV and phones. Peace out.

[@axelk4921]

Of course, I know the Jetsons.... but I'm sad that you can't see them on TV anymore.... even the Flintstones come more often

[@miriamreiss]

I lived in Oberhausen for five years....that mall you mentioned, the "WESTFIELD", formrtly known as CentrO killed the shops in the city centre..... for central Oberhausen it was a disaster. Only advantages are, that it's easy to reach via public transport and there is a lot of parking area around. Especially at the easterly entrances, where the cinemas are.

[@DJDoena]

BTW: According the credited historians, George Jetson will be born in the year 2022.

[@Osti67]

Lived close to this are for a good part of my life, visited it some dozens times. For your info, from the mall to Amsterdam is a 4 to 5 hours ride in the car... so you could visit the area even when you live in the Netherlands...

[@Biloxiblues77]

Malls are a curse to many inner cities in Europe!

[@axelplate9080]

Funny seeing a German mall, filled with stores from USA brands. Malls aren't so much a thing around here. the ones we have her ein southern Netherlands are much smaller. With small, car free shopping streets, we don't need them. Being an old guy that loves sceince fiction, i know the Jetsons. Germany was one of the first countries that Lego got exported to, and there is a Legoland in germany too.

[@CavHDeu]

I don't like malls, we got one here in Mönchengladbach 5 years ago and been there just twice. I'm from Rheydt and we like to stay in our part of the city 😁 we still have an own main station and city center. They joined both cities in 1976 but it's still a thing. Legoland Germany is in Bavaria Android/Windows

[@indiecarmayne]

Nice to see Charlie reacting to CLR! (subscribed to both channels and of course to American Girl Reacts as well...! Keep the spirit! The Jetsons, The Flintstones ("Familie Feuerstein"), Futurama, Captain Future, Looney Toons, Mr. Rossi sucht das Glück (Mr. Rossi Looking For Luck) were also shown in Germany. Also Bonanza, High Chaparral, Star Trek, U.F.O., Lassie, Flipper, Daktari, Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, Eine Amerikanische Familie (An American Family) or The Waltons. Not sure how malls are doing in general as there's only a small one in my local town (120.000 people). There's something I would consider a mall at Nürnberg Hbf (Nuremberg Central Station) in Bavaria and several in Berlin. What I know for sure is that malls in Russia are on the decline (at least for now) as prices are skyrocketing, people have less money/buying power, there are or will be lay-offs and many western brands are pulling out.

[@PummelFrut]

Love your vids!

[@rolfoleynik6925]

When he searched on google, you saw the date 2021

[@roykliffen9674]

The Jetsons? Who can forget Rosey the Robot? BTW I've never been a fan of McDonalds, except maybe their fries. If I want fastfood burgers i go to FEBO, a Dutch fastfood chain. For great burgers I order from BurgerMe, a German franchise. They've great burgers but you do pay for quality. Nordsee is a German Seafood franchise which has some wonderful food too. The German franchises can often be found in the Netherlands too.

[@rienvanwelzen9200]

There is also a Westfield mall in Nederland (Leideschendam) and in France (Lille) but also 24 in the USA. I think the American investers also come to live in Europa (Westfield is American)

[@erikvandenbergh4469]

Oberhausen is only a few minutes from Dutch border. However the city centers are beter than the malls. The only reason to go to a mall could be discounts as they have in Batavia stad Mall in the middle of the Netherlands.

[@GreyPhoenix117]

So, you have "Malls" like Centro in Oberhausen in smaller version in bigger cities. But what you got in nearly every small city in Germany are pedestrian zones. They are like small open air "Malls" with backeries, shops, cafes, food stores, ice stores etcetera. This are designated streets in the center of the cities where you go to meet friends or buy stuff and where cars are forbidden. Pedestrian zones are a big and old part of german shopping culture and a city is unthinkable without it. Pedestrian zones are close to the market place and often it is also where festivals are located. But I don't think pedestrian zones are a german invention.

[@DJDoena]

German here. I find malls to be absolutely boring. You can go to one in Berlin, Hamburg and Karlsruhe and you'll always find the same stores: MediaMarkt or Saturn (which for kickers belong to the same parent company) for electronics, Thalia for books, certainly an H&M and other typical mall fashion stores. Then of course you have your italian ice cream shop and your pizzeria and probably a McD or a BK in the food corner, right beside Nordsee (sea food). And even you nerd shop like Elbenwald can be found in every larger mall. They hold no attraction to me unless I specifically need something.

[@Condor-Toni]

I don't like such centers/malls. I prefer the Zeil (Frankfurt shopping street) by far. I always feel trapped in malls like this We didn't need malls in youth. We just took the train or bus into town. Or we had our clubs (football, tennis, handball, horseback riding) we had a lot to choose from. Or we met in the ice cream parlor and went to the banks of the Main to chill. ooh palm trees grow here too, outside.

[@perfekteli5381]

That is changing in Munich. It is precisely because of the pandemic that the pedestrian zones are no longer doing so well, which is why the malls are doing badly at the moment. But Pasing now has a mall right by the train station, and it's well frequented. And the big department stores in Munich that went bankrupt are now being converted into malls, but with other areas besides dining and shopping. There should be something for every age. But malls are usually only pleasant when the weather outside is bad. The pedestrian zones are better for nice weather. And these should look more and more like parks, at least in Munich.

[@rienvanwelzen9200]

A nice channel for you Charlie: T And T Go Dutch

[@gedeuchnixan3830]

Here comes Elroy.....sure we know, at least the older ones.

[@Br10a.]

I knew this mall as only Centro Oberhausen! So it’s called Westfield now, didn’t know that and it changed a little bit. I like shopping here, but it’s been a while. Only a little hour drive for me. Does it still have the legoland, themepark and seaworld outside the mall???? I’m an apple fan😘

[@lichansan1750]

Europe has a much wider range of zoning districts at hand. US as far as I know has commercial, industrial, high density living and suburban living. and this helps with the cities immensly In addition to that, Europe has mixed commercial and living, and also medium density living. mixed commercial can be shops at the first floor and apartments on top like in some blocks in the us grandfathered to current day. and medium density usually are non standalone single homes. sometimes 10 or more houses stand hugging each other on a street with maybe some space at the front and back to be used as garden or for parking. this then helps the cities to provide the means for this typical european feeling. Cities usually have a high density core, often times mixed, and the density drops going outwards. some high density industrial zones and high density commercial zones are usually in the out skirts. The money needed to provide for high density zones is much lower then the income generated. And this additional money is used to provide for the low density zones which are quite expensive to maintain in the out skirts. And they are not to far away because medium density which is roughly a zero sum game. And this results in everything being connect in a city.

[@swanpride]

I fear that a lot of inner cities in Germany are slowly dying, and Corona in addition did a number on them, too. Thankfully some cities do a pretty good job ensuring that they don't die out, by having a number of events which draw people back into the city.

[@rubenboerde9935]

Actualy, in Holland/ the netherlands youll see a lot of empty stores. Litle retailers are gone and there is a lot more restaurants and bio food stores. So the market is changing due to internet ordening. It will take a while, but the empty spots will be filled up after some time.

[@michaelschlueter3069]

4Floors And the best Weihnachts Markt outside

[@NiclasHorn]

Malls is going downhill in Sweden also, except for the big as one in Stockholm / Solna.

[@adambuesser6264]

How do malls operate?

[@arnodobler1096]

i love our pedestrian zones and hate Malls

[@dagmarbubolz7999]

It's funny to me how one would flaunt a mall. Yes these places are functional and sometimes build nicely, but then again I'd find a hundred other places I'd rather spend time with my friends. Malls allways seem superficial to me and not a place I'd relax at. Food places give you lots if choices, but it's always loud and busy, and evetything feels rushed. Maybe because there's enough other nice spaces in European cities that there's no need to go to malls and in many US cities the mall is basically the most interesting thing. As for the decline, I'm pretty sure it's already started in Europe/Germany too. You'd hear from time to time that there were some problems economically. Usually it has to do with the fact that too many malls in the inner cities have been build and compete each other. Also online business it growing and with Corona it was given a push. We yet have to see if now that people can go out again they'd rather do that, or if they keep the convenience of online shoping.

[@fatdad64able]

Screw malls!!! They drag customers away from the inner cities, their exits even often are facing away from shopping streets (Ludwigshafen), or you have to walk a complicated route to get from the parking lot to the exit (Kaiserslautern). They're disastrous for any private owned small shops and boutiques. Only big chains reside in malls, the rest cannot afford it. One of the better and more integrated malls is Saarpark Center in Neunkirchen/Saar.

[@vrie4844]

You are really into the Netherlands, with your map candy wraps. I have been to Westfield centro isevral times and it is nice BUT this not something ypu will find in the netherlands. And about apple computers ( i am a apple adapt) there are pricy BUT they go many many years without any problems. Regards from eddy. from(village ) Mijdtecht the netherlands

[@JensE95]

Most MCD Germany have table service 😅

[@butenbremer1965]

This Westfield Centro Mall in Oberhausen has been controversial right from the start. It's located right next to the central railway station, with 99% of the people arriving there are directly heading to the mall. The inner city's commerce and pedestrial zones are actually dying. I went there in pre-Covid times - and only found trashy stores and cheap cafés in a once vivid city. Oberhausen actually looked like a ghosttown on a Saturday afternoon. So sad to watch that happen! The mall is a success, yes, but to whose expense? Nowadays, German city planners refer to this mall as a bad example and a future no-go for the development of other cities....... The MTZ (Main-Taunus-Zentrum) in Sulzbach, Hesse, on the other hand, is the best possible example of a perfect symbiosis between a city, its outskirts, and local businesses. In addition, it's the oldest outdoor shopping mall in Germany, opened up in 1964 - they wanted it to look American back then.

[@henrischutte1968]

I went there a few times, mostly during december when the weihnachtsmarkt is around too. It's only a 50 minute drive from where I live. You were surprised to see the car dealer on the 3th floor; the parking is actually on the roof there.

[@casbee9610]

NALF, another American in Germany mentioned in one of his ideas that McDonald's is way better in Germany. He made a video were he said, he made a huge mistake when he come back to the US and went to McD because he was so used to German McD. Personally I prefer BK over McD. Locally at least the McD is really gross and I find BK gross as well nowadays. I rather make burgers at home. Thing is, I do enjoy malls but if it keeps the inner city alive, they are allowed to perish.

[@schiffelers3944]

If people don't spent their money their, or don't have the money to spent there, malls can die. The internet has also done a lot of damage to stores through out Europe, and the pandemic did not help this trend. The history of shops and "shopping" - markets, is a place to start. So with the history of how towns rose from villages etc. fortifications and walls that protected bigger cities, and the social structures and layouts in these. We grew, we expanded, and the systems grew with them.... USA had loads of open spaces, why everything could get "bigger and better" and with malls being a signifier in modern age, of civilizations and comforts and luxuries - the concepts of a mall got implemented across the globe. Big cities have big shopping centers, dedicated to trade / economy.

[@MichaelW.1980]

For now, malls aren’t on a decline in Germany. But that’s just a matter of time. Online shopping will - at some point - kill malls over here just the same. If not, things like „the human malware“ or social issues might.

[@MichaEl-rh1kv]

There are not so many malls in the narrower sense in Germany. Mostly you will them find only in bigger cities, and a few are really run-down. Some luxury ones were built in some East Germany cities in the 1990s, but since then the hype is gone. The Oberhausen (which is in the Ruhr region, the former coal + steel region in the West) Westfield mall is also of the "luxury" strain, but it looks a bit sterile/artificial to me, like a mix of Berlin main station, the duty free section of a big airport, and a modern hospital.

[@pitfisch1]

I live in a western german town of about 165.000 people. Over the last 4 decades they buildt 5 Malls here. 3 are allready worn out, one is still declining now and the newest is still not my kind. To me, these are just investor-frauds agressively destroying the independent Stores. I boycott them like i boycott AMZN.

[@marcelkurz134]

Five guys does not taste good to be honest and it is really expensive. I prefer Restaurants that offer their own Burgers. Found a few great places. If I eat at a chain, I will go to "Hans im Glück" or "Ruff burgers"

[@peterloubele6788]

WHO needs a mall🤔. Shop in small.Meet/talk with other costumers.A mall is buisy bussy not 4 all.Mass produ tion of childlabour coyntrys products or ikea (arghmea trowup)styles

[@schiffelers3944]

In Europe we've been consuming and watching the America's my entire life, I am 41. Of course we didn't have McDonalds here my entire life, it started in bigger cities, and then spread. But I was a child as the McD came to my city. Now we have multiple McD's or Drives in my area I could choose from. This food industry of the USA has been causing global problems, even with European guidelines etc. The large here is probably between a small and medium in the USA, and things like that. Plenty of our MCD etc. don't have free re-fills, things like that. Less salt on the fries, less ice in the cups, things like that what would make you spent more in the end on unhealthy products. But Fast-food here also has changed over the decades. Recently I was at the Burger King and it took them 12 minutes to complete the order. I've worked at MCD in my youth, that is way to long for fast food, but I noticed the same problems at MCD's as well. People are faster at consuming the products than that they are receiving them most of the times.

[@Doortjes51]

Oberhausen you must see it

[@patrickscholten222]

oberhausen 50 km to netherlands

[@mitchellberends8178]

Hey man. I just want to say. It might be better for next videos to put the screen with the youtube video straight. Because with this angle it is very annoying to watch. Greetings from the Netherlands

[@mitchellberends8178]

Also just watched the end. Im an android/windows guy. Apple is not customizable as much and the hardware is worse

[@schiffelers3944]

Most place names in the USA are not originals and copies of place names in Europe.

[@MegaAntonz]

in Germany Android is the big thing. This year 66,4 % od all sold smartphones were Android. But Apple was rising slowly since the last few years but they could drop down again. who knows

[@Rotterdamned010]

Westfield has a lot of malls now in Europe. They're known for making these huge complexes. The one in London was build during the Olympics and it's one of the biggest. We now have one to in the Netherlands, it's close to The Hague. (Westfield Mall of the Netherlands) They're pretty much build the same, huge shopping centre, foodcourt and recreation area. And in the Netherlands they're quite an unique shopping mall for the Netherlands because they offer free parking and free use of toilets. (Most big malls have parking costs and fees to use a toilet)

[@anouk6644]

The Westfield Mall here in Leidschendam used to be an old open air shopping center build in the early 70’s and needed an overhaul. Now it is really beautiful, but extremely busy in the weekends and holidays. That roads are completely gridlocked due to visitors from all over the country. Even though there is free parking, the residential area around the mall is filled with parked cars, because the 4000 parkingspots are full. It’s crazy and annoying. On those days I avoid that area if I can.

[@Rotterdamned010]

@@anouk6644 Yeah I am stuck in traffic each weekend. But the new mall is much better. Wish they made a second one because everyone goes there. They should make more Westfield malls divided around the country so not everyone flocks to the Randstad each weekend.

[@anouk6644]

@@Rotterdamned010 Aha, so you know! 😂 What normally would take me 15 minutes now turns into a 45min drive and I’m not even going thru the tunnel but along the Vliet to Voorburg. As long as they don’t build them in heavy urbanized areas like here it would be fine. Almost everybody takes the car already. On the other hand, I do like I can go there by bike.

[@chubbymoth5810]

I wouldn't use Apple products if my life depended on it. No way I'm going to sit in the walled garden to get leeched on by Apple. Android as a necessity as long as I can de Google it and suppress the telemetry. But my next one will be some type of Linux as well. I can strongly recommend using Linux, it has been my main platform since 2008. It doesn't phone home, no bloat so much faster, better security than anything commercial available and tonnes of excellent free open source software that is often better than the commercial stuff. Take an old laptop to test it on from a USB stick. See if you like it.