American Reacts to Public Transportation in Norway (Part 1)

As an American I am very accustomed to driving everywhere in my car, as most Americans tend to do. This is because in the United States many places do not have good public transportation. Today I am very excited to learn all about the different kinds of public transportation in Norway and how to use it. If you enjoyed the video feel free to leave a comment, like, or subscribe for more!

[@palmarolavlklingholm9684]

Well, I think building the infrastructure in Norway is at least as complicated to build in Norway than in USA. Despite Norway being so small. Remember Norway is very long. And It is full of natural obstacles like mountains, valleys, rivers and fjords.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

Norway are in the process of building roads underground in the big cities,and we are getting electric busses,ferries,cruiseships,and airplanes,my personal wish is that norway would take a closer look at E-85 cars.

[@chrissmith8773]

The sad thing is the US used to have loads of street cars, in almost every major city, but nearly all of the systems were ripped out in the fifties and sixties because the car was king.

[@Dan-fo9dk]

Well....don't be sad.... The tram system in Oslo is a black hole that swallow tax payers money. Bus had been a much better alternative both when it comes to cost, flexibility and environmental issues ....even when the tram is electric...

[@Henoik]

In the US you literally need a car to use public transport since all the stations are too far away from the city centers. In Europe, we have built our cities around public transport (like really - often public transport systems comes before people start moving in and before it actually becomes a city)

[@sulliken77]

@@Dan-fo9dk I call mostly BS on yor statement.

[@johnsimmons5951]

The US buses and trams didn’t just happen to be ripped out, the car manufacturers bought out the bus & tram companies, and made the services unpopular by not maintaining them, running a bad schedule, etc. When income dropped the services were further reduced and eventually scraped.

[@alvsindre]

you don't have that in the US because the car industry paid politicians to tear up the tram track that you had before

[@Dan-fo9dk]

If I was running Oslo ....well...then I would also throw out the tram system .... and I am not paid by the car industry. The tram in Oslo is a black hole of finance ...which the tax payers must cover. There are no rational to have such a brain dead transport system that is a minus in every category ...whatever you look at.

[@odinfeidje-baug7467]

One problem, especially on the west side of Norway, is that it's hard to build rails because there's a lot of mountains

[@skinnyjohnsen]

For visitors to Oslo I would also recommend buses numbers 37 and 56. The 37 takes you through the oldest part of Oslo towards the north. The 56 takes you from downtown Oslo all the way into the forest north of the city. The Holmenkollen subway/ city-line takes you to the Holmenkollen hill north-west of the city. From there you'll have a beautiful view over the city and the Oslo fjord to the south, or you can continue north by north-west to take a (short-ish) hike into the forested hill.

[@MichaelEricMenk]

7:40: Regarding the size of Norway and the US. The length of Norway is about the same as the US 48 north-south. But you are still able to take the bus/train long distance. There are national bus service that cover Norway, so you can easily travle Norway only by bus. My family in the US looked into how to take public transport from my sister to my mother. The total drive is 5.5 hours. If you took the first Grayhound bus, after 11 hours you would arrive in Chicago AFTER the last connection. So you would have to spend the night in Chicago...

[@Dan-fo9dk]

Yepp, Norway's area isn't that big (385 207 sq. km) but the country is very stretched out. Norway is the country in Europe, except Russia, with the longest distance end to end ....which is around 2900 km (Svalbard is not even included). The only north-south distance in USA which is longer is from the very top of Maine to the bottom of Florida ....which is just 200 km longer. I've never heard about a national bus service in Norway....and that is simply because it does not exist. Mostly are the there some longer bus routes in southern Norway and a few in part of northern Norway. It is each county (fylke) that finance and decide on transport like bus and ship (except the coast express ship route which is done by the state). That mostly result in that there are no transport or connections across the border between the different counties. There are local bus services all over Norway but little to no bus service over longer distances seen for the country as a whole. Try to find a bus that can bring you from Oslo to anywhere in northern Norway ...and you will struggle since there are non. You can get to Trondheim (which is still far inside southern Norway) ....but the next 2000 km is a nope.... The only option of land based transport is train to Fauske or Bodø ....but still you are not even half way in northern Norway. You can take the coast express ship....but that will take 4 days to the northern end of it's route in Kirkenes. So there is only one option left ...and that is to travel with plane.

[@MichaelEricMenk]

@@Dan-fo9dk wrote: "I've never heard about a national bus service in Norway....and that is simply because it does not exist. [...] You can get to Trondheim (which is still far inside southern Norway) " I did not say that it was run by one company. The multiple-county long distance busses only run up to Trondheim. The reason for this is that the counties north of Trondheim is to large for a bus driver to ride through multiple counties. In the north it is the county bus company that drives the long-distance bus routes. This creates a problem with multiple companies, that complicates routing and ticket purchase. But it it is far better than the US. Norwegian are spoiled when it comes to public transport. I new someone who took the bus from Kirkenes to Lofoten, due to it was the most optimal transport that was available. And yes, you can take land based transport from Mandal to Kirkenes. Not recommended, but possible. Takes over to days...

[@MichaelEricMenk]

@@Dan-fo9dk Example: When you come to Bodø, and want to take the bus to Kirkenes . The bus goes from Bodø at 07:15 to Tromsø. There is a bus Tromsø-Alta (transit so you do not take the detour to Tromsø ? ) And then you can take the bus from Alta to Kirkenes. Do you want to continue? There is a bus from Kirkenes to Murmansk in Russia.

[@Mega_Trond]

it is shorter from Norway to Italy than it is from southern Norway to northern Norway. So Norway is a very long country.😊

[@Dan-fo9dk]

@@Mega_Trond Nope...... let me inform you that the distance "from southern Norway to northern Norway" is ................zero............ Hint: They are neighbouring parts of the sane country ....hence has a common border. Whatsoever.....did you wake up in the morning with a sudden discovery and just wanted to inform me about your discovery concerning the distances in Norway...???

[@judyjude]

first year I lived in Oslo, I often took the tram without any goals. I just wanted to relax and people-watch. It is a great way to get know Oslo and get a sense of the public. Tram 12 is called the tourist-tram, as it stops or passes by many popular attractions.

[@the_oslovian]

Me too, ultimate relaxation

[@the_oslovian]

Takeing the tram around Oslo listening to music is the most relaxing thing I do. I love my dear Oslo, I have lived here for 20 years now. No need for a car. Fast reliable and nice

[@jeschinstad]

I agree. I also moved here about 20 years ago and have never had a car. When my grandaunt died, my granduncle took the tram around Oslo all day every day. Because he didn't want to be alone, but he didn't want to be with anyone and he didn't want to do anything, but he couldn't stay at home. I thought that was a brilliant strategy for self-preservation. I also love Oslo very, very much.

[@the_oslovian]

@@jeschinstad Me too! I know exactly how you feel. Oslove! (Oslo-love) This city is magic.

[@Fabian-Wenzel]

You can see trams for urban public transport all over Europe.

[@moffin25]

I live and work in Oslo, I have taken the Trikk every day for like 2 decades. Now I live outside Oslo, and i miss them...

[@norwaybaba3381]

From Ekeberg sculpture park is the view that is on the painting "Scream" by E. Munch.👀

[@jeschinstad]

Every city should have a tram system. It causes city culture and stability because once the rails are there, the city must evolve around it.

[@MessyMeep]

Stavanger has started a project for a year where busses will be free to use. To see if they can combat some of the traffic. It's looking good so far =)

[@rowaystarco]

There's more US cities building light trail/tram lines now. It's going slow, but some good public transport is being built. Hawaii just got a fully automatic above ground metro line.

[@albions]

US would be perfect for a huge train system, its moastly flat (i think). Building a good train system in Norway on the other hand is very hard since it has a LOT of mountains.

[@rowaystarco]

Plenty of mountains in the US. You have the mountain states towards west en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_states That being said, USA was the leading railway nation until cars came along. The railways built America. There are also a bunch of rail networks already, with Amtrak running on them. The problem is that most of these tracks are privately owned by cargo companies. So cargo is prioritized and passenger trains are slow and has a lot of delays. When it comes to cargo, USA is actually using a lot of rail to transport it, more than Norway.

[@ac1455]

@@rowaystarcoNot to mention this is a chicken and the egg problem which requires some external factor to get going, especially due to how little the US invests in its rail infrastructure compared to highways, something like 0.5-1.5% of what highways get. Even the big infrastructure bill which was recently passed had the majority of transport funds going to roads and cars, not to mention all the gas subsidies the US gov pays for per year at 20 billion usd/year as of 2019.

[@rowaystarco]

@@ac1455 Removing minimum parking laws from zoning is a very good start to move in a direction of more urban mixed zone cities in the US. Removing those laws will make it easier to build cities and towns for public transport, walking and biking down the line.

[@lpdude2005]

During 2023-24, all the trams in Oslo will be the "Space edition". During August 2023, all the red buses - around 500 of them - will be electric. All the ferries in Oslo are new and completely electric.

[@denise4954]

There is a video by OBF about public transportation, called Why Europe Is Insanely Well Designed.

[@oceanmythjormundgandr3891]

The public transport in Oslo is very good. Its on rare occasions that public transport cant get you somewhere or at least close to where you want to be.

[@twinmama42]

The US used to have great public transport including trams or streetcars. Just watch old pictures (or movies) from the first half of the 20th century. Take L.A. e.g. They used to have trams until the 1950ies. But due to the car manufacturers' lobbying and the worship of cars as symbols of modernity tram tracks were ripped out and trams replaced by buses which worsened connections as buses got stuck in traffic just like cars. The service worsened with fewer lines and fewer buses which led to people relying even more on cars which led to diminishing service - i.e. a vicious cycle. If you want to learn about why North America is so much worse doing in public transport than Europe or Asia I recommend two channels - Not just bikes (Canadian living in the Netherlands) and City beautiful.

[@ItsLuckyDucky]

Love your Norwegian reactions!

[@electusemeralddream6395]

Tyler actually teach me stuff about my own country, so i enjoy watching this :D

[@renate7088]

Waiting for part 2😄💜

[@Gazer75]

@10:40 Because you don't like paying more taxes. Public transport is a pretty big expense for the municipalities and counties. If they were not subsidized no one would use them as the ticket would be to expensive.

[@Nibitor9353]

Yeah, the public transportation system in and around Oslo is just great! As a matter of fact, I haven't owned a car in 15 years. By now most people use that convenient app to buy tickets. A single ticket for one zone costs roughly $4, and grants unlimited access for one hour. Each additional zone costs less than $3, and adds another 30 minutes. Any combination of bus, tram, metro or train may be used. Regular commuters typically buy period tickets instead (7-day, 30-day or even 365-day tickets, all of which come at a considerable discount). The metro system is mostly underground in and around the city center, and extends pretty far in all directions. As far as I know, Oslo used to be the smallest town in the world to have a metro system.

[@Bart230]

The Tram is really old. Now maybe not THAT old, but the my mom still calls the Tram Museum the Tram Stable, as she used to take Trams than overnighted in what is now a Museum.

[@K000H]

I was a student i Oslo, and the tram might be one of the things i miss the most about the city. It's SO convenient. It stops everywhere, i find it to be fast enough, and you barely have to wait more than 10 min at each tram stop for the next one to show up. There are plenty of them running. If i miss the bus where i live now, i'm lucky if i only have to wait an hour for the next one. Often it's longer. In Oslo, if you miss the one you were aiming for, no big deal. The next one is right around the corner. The only time the tram is bad is in rush hour. But nothing is ever fun in rush hour tbf. And Oslo is very walkable.

[@cecilieklaunes3626]

Omg! To take the train from Oslo- Bergen 🤩 The views from the train are amazing 😍😍😍

[@runeingebretsen8378]

Many big cities in norway has roads underground,and soon you can drive from the south to north mostly undeground.

[@RuthlessMetalYT]

the US had trams back in the day at least. I remember seeing it in old cowboy movies.

[@INDREFILE]

ruter means route pretty much direction / navigation app i dont realy use it meself but its pretty handy if you work far away from were you live

[@martinm8991]

EU consists of independent countries, but train routes between those countries have been there even before EU. Afterwards, massive expansion of the rail network (with speeds up to 200km/h = 125mph) followed. High speed trains (300km/h = 200mph) are still national projects, with surprisingly dense separate networks in France, Germany, Italy, Spain.

[@donquixote1502]

In fact, building roads and railways in Norway is extremely expensive. There are mountains and fjords everywhere. Someone said if you flatten Norway, it will be the biggest country in the world.

[@karsteinmartinsen489]

Its like that in every city in Norway..Verry good Public Transportation with buss

[@cryptc]

I used to live in oslo and have 25 minute commute by metro to center of town, then I moved out of oslo and now have a 10 minute commute by a much faster train :)

[@milkjr8883]

Navigating through oslo is really easy, I get a ticket on the app and tell google maps to take me where I need to go on foot and using public transport and it just leads me probably less than 100 feet away to a stop where something will arrive in less than 5 minutes and off I go, maybe I'm on just a tram, maybe I switch through some buses and the subway, I dunno but I'm getting wherever probably within 30 minutes.

[@Lene-Lene]

Well, it certainly is NOT easy connecting cties in norway because of all the Mountains and fjords.

[@dimitri1dalmatiner430]

Yes

[@phillipjankoveliassen7671]

Uppload Part 2 now!!

[@Jonascor11]

Rn a month pass for all the public transport except train (I’m not sure about ferry), cost 20kr or around 2 dollars!

[@kilipaki87oritahiti]

Unless in any of the big cities, you have busses, trains and taxis. And if really remote, or a really small town, aka the countryside, there won't be much at all, so like the USA, most people are car dependent. In Oslo we have it all: metro, busses, train, tram, taxi, uber, ferry etc, which is a luxury that we take for granted. Then again, the city for the most part is walk able as well, or you take the bike. and yes that's the tram.

[@rykmat2542]

The first thing everyone must know about European public transit is that it NOT makes any profit. Exclude long-distance trains in some very frequented directions. Usually, public transit makes huge losses, especially in cities and it's heavily subsidized from public sources. The city of Prague spends every year for about 25 % of the whole city budget on public transit (including infrastructure investments) to reach about 50 % market share. Cars take up about 28 % and the rest is walking and cycling.

[@ByynDawg]

In Stavanger we have free public transportation now for buses, trains and "hurtigruten"

[@zaph1rax]

Norway stretches more than 1,000 miles (1700 km) from north to south (About the same as NY to Miami) and the distance from Oslo to Bergen is about 200 miles across several mountains, so it's not exactly cheap and easy to build infrastructure here either. The distance from NY to LA is "only" about twice the distance of the length of Norway, so it shouldn't be that difficult with the resources of the US to build infrastructure which covered the length of the entire country.

[@Martini923]

They have the same in Dublin Ireland

[@Cinetyk]

Fun fact but it also goes to show how sad the state of affairs is: in Portugal, in the late 19th century, the tram was literally called "the american" - because it was from the USA.

[@steffenml]

I get why you are sceptical about the cheese - but in South Korea, for instance, it has become super popular on waffles and ice cream. It’s weirdly similar to peanut butter in “mouth feel”, but obviously nothing like it in flavour. It’s sweet, has a bit of tang, and is called a “dessert cheese” for a reason 😊 On waffles, it pairs excellently with jam and sour cream, or just on its own with butter. I have heard it is an “acquired taste”, but in my opinion - and based on my experience with British and American friends - it’s more of a “you love it or you hate it” kind of thing. But it’s not like any other cheese you will ever have tasted, so don’t let previous cheese experiences deter you from trying it on waffles if you ever come here!

[@In_my_own_mind]

Not only that. In South Korea they even use brunost as a topping for coffee, sprinkled on pizza and as an ingredient in peanut butter (on Burger King) as examples. They dont have the same relationship to the cheese as we do in Norway, so they basically just try it on everything 😁

[@davidmills2477]

Hi uk we got rid of trams everywhere like the us did in the 1950s.only about 8 or so places with them now more modern systems over the last 20 or so years . I did wonder how you thought they moved if not by electric at least 100 years of that.regards dave

[@Atlas_Redux]

You have to have regular state to state trains? Can't be right you don't have that. I mean, even we have Europe-wide trains.

[@AHVENAN]

It's incredible how amazed americans are by this stuff! 🤣 "The tram is so modern and futuristic" Uhm, San Fransisco has had a similar system since the late 1800s

[@rogerlunde8668]

A Trikk is going on traks, like a railroad.

[@Snacksy1973]

If I’m not mistaken San Francisco does have trams?

[@Henoik]

9:53 Is that the Red Cross I see? Probably someone went missing during the filming of this

[@wyrmhand]

What do You consider a smaller town or city?

[@WookieWarriorz]

Trams are super common around europe, even dublin has them. But they used to be way more popular years ago even in the usa but the usa got rid of them for more roads and parking, such a big mistake imo.

[@walsoe_1]

It is normal to buy tickets using youre mobil and app.

[@Patrikch100]

Elskling never heared of trams

[@janpetterflaien2936]

I live in Trondheim, and I actually sold my car last year because I don't need it. I walk or use public transportation.

[@Helge_Torp]

Even though Norway is smaller, the geography makes it extremely hard to build infrastructure. And keep in mind that it takes more than 38 hours to drive from the south (Lindesnes) to the furthest city in Norway (Kirkenes). That is if you drove through Norway. Through Sweden it will only take 21 hours because Sweden is flat and boring 😅 The US would have it a lot easier building infrastructure and definitively should in regards of the environment

[@vilmanord30]

The US doesnt have public transport because policy makers in the 60s and 70s where influenced by the car industry to remove streetcars and design infastructure for car use. Also there is the misguided idea in the US that public transport companies should maka a profit. Around most of European citys they dont. They are partialy funded by local goverments smiliair to how local goverments fund roads, schools and hospitals. Public transport is a service to the citicens of the city not something to be built only in areas where it makes money. Public transport not only provides transportation but also clears up space in the roads and parking lots that would otherwise be full of cars. Also norway is probably one of the most expensive places in the whole world to build any kind of infastructure (roads, trains etc). Sure its smaller than the US and building a US wide network is probably unrealistic for now but state wide systems with trains connecting citys and metro areas as well as extensive bus networks in medium sized citys should be much cheaper to build in the US where the geography for the most part is flat and dont have any oceans or other major bodys of water to contend with. Going anywhere in norway you either need to cross a mountin go around a lake or cross over a fjord. If norway can build good infastructure with its geography than so can all other contries. In the end public transport is a question about policy and priorities and funding.

[@rogerlunde8668]

"Tram" = Trikk in Norway.

[@runearntzen6499]

Norway is a lot smaller than the US. Still, it it were a US State, Norway would be the fifth largest.

[@Emperor_Nagrom]

Ah, I almost forgot SilvanaDil knows every single piece of trivia about the US. There isn't a single thing the All Knowing God of Trivia and Ego SilvanaDil doesn't know.

[@Cinetyk]

Watching this you feel like the USA is in the Stone Age when it comes to transportation. The tram is a spaceship?? LOL

[@Hi-lz7wo]

1:51 They are not street cars, they are trams.

[@ebbhead20]

That's a tram, and the US had them before anybody i would say. 1920 or so they where everywhere. They are popping up all over the USA again. The Universities in america got them first this time round.

[@vikinnorway6725]

I do think the UK had it first. Or at the same time, 1804 with a horse😅 horse-drawn tram operated by Swansea and Mumbles Railway, 1870. Established in 1804, the railway service was the world's first. The world's first passenger train or tram was the Swansea and Mumbles Railway, in Wales, UK. The first "trams" were in fact horse-drawn vehicles on flanged steel wheels. The first expansion of the line came in 1878 with a line to Grünerløkka just north-east to the city center. Electric tram service was initiated in 1894 with a line over Briskeby to Majorstuen, a route south of the original Homansbyen line

[@ebbhead20]

​@@vikinnorway6725well that's what i expected. But i was just trying to tell him and his.. We dont have that here attitude that its been a thing since kingdom come. All you need to do is look at footage of old cities in America in around 1910 give or take 10 years, and its clearly a thing. And they brought them back at Uni around 1990. Trams are such an old idea at the end of the day. As you say first with horses then different takes on electric carts. So its crazy old to me. Nothing new at all, dont know why hes so keen on making everything weird when its not.? Trams can be found in most of the world today. They're popping up all over denmark these days. But its not like we haven't seen them in germany, poland and Ukraine and 10 other countries at least the last 25 years. Denmark had them all over in the 40s and up to 1968 or so. Then they ripped all the tracks up, just to do them again around 2015 or so. Makes no sense but ok. 😊

[@vikinnorway6725]

@@ebbhead20 i agree, hes probably never seen one himself. For towns its a really good idea, i think inviroment has a part in why its rebuilt. They want everything to be electric nowadays

[@ebbhead20]

@@vikinnorway6725 well, this guy has t seen modt animals od the us, or 9000 other things that they not just have, bit are crazy know for. Like Americans are known for all their fish restaurants, but according to him no one eats fish in America. Its just so annoying all this.. Whats asphalt? What's a lightbulb? Whats a taxi boat ? And other things that, that seems like sci fi to him ever though it's common as muck in the US too.. 😔

[@johnfrancismaglinchey4192]

Either a car ,,,or a horse box

[@ankra12]

I take all of this for granted.

[@oleperen]

There is Trams in San Francisco 🚃

[@Lassisvulgaris]

No, those are cable carts, where cables are ran under the roads, and the carts hook on and off. A complete defferent system....

[@oleperen]

@@Lassisvulgaris ok - thanks 👍

[@Lassisvulgaris]

@@oleperen No problem. It's actually quite like Fløybanen in Bergen, only horizontal....

[@Pillokun]

What? a typical american doesn't know about trams? I mean even with my first 10 years of upbringing on a farm in Poland before moving to Sweden I knew about trams... what in the world :D

[@rowaystarco]

It's often referred to as streetcars or trolleys in the US. He did say streetcar when he first saw it. Slightly improved you have "light rail", light rail often operates mostly on it's own tracks not sharing with cars. The Bergen Bybane is more of a light rail system than the system in Oslo.

[@AgentH53]

1:46 2:30 LA used to have them. But Judge Doom destroyed them all. URL: UWU

[@johnfrancismaglinchey4192]

It’s a tram

[@Galantus1964]

You had trams in the US aswell many years ago..look at the remnants of it in towns like San Francisco, and we have systrems like this in all of the nordic countries... it is realy not rocket science....

[@andersgulowsen2814]

To this day. we have no trains going way north.. need a plane/helicopter

[@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too]

10:45 No, it doesn't pay money. The ticket only covers half the cost. The rest is taken from legalized theft. No public transport in Norway has a surplus.

[@EternalTina]

I see Americans worry about "The 15 minute cities" as a totalitarian prison. You don't need to own a car, ergo you're a prisoner! In Norway, every major city is a 15 minute city and have been so for decades. And no, we're not prisoners. Many of us still own a car, if we want to. We just don't need to use it as much because the public transportation is both faster and cheaper for local travel.

[@Even169]

1:52 trik

[@kathryndunn9142]

Trams

[@MichaelEricMenk]

8:20 "So you call this thing The Tram". No "The Tram" is not a name, tram is a noun, just like car, bus &c.

[@TravellingTorunn]

I thought you have trams in San Francisco...?

[@Lassisvulgaris]

Those are cable carts. Cables are ran underground, and the carts hooks on and off the cables, so a totally different system. Sort of like skilifts, but cables underground, instead of in the air....

[@TravellingTorunn]

@@Lassisvulgaris thank you. I didn’t know. But I guess they run on rails?

[@Lassisvulgaris]

@@TravellingTorunn They do. The cables run in slits between the rails.

[@TravellingTorunn]

@@Lassisvulgaris Just like the Funicular in Bergen, Norway, then 😄

[@Lassisvulgaris]

@@TravellingTorunn Should be the same principle. Haven't been in Bergen for ages, BTW. I'm from Stavanger, myself.... If you like these kind of programs, I can recommend Heather Abroad. She has a video about Bergen, too....

[@hermodverb2149]

I kan sow you around

[@Pedroto3]

Dude literally didnt know what a tram was

[@skogsmusa]

why do you like norway?

[@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too]

No, public transportation is not for America. The price of a ticket merely covers 2/5 of the actual cost, which necessitates substantial taxation. Consequently, it proves to be significantly more expensive than owning a car when considering these factors. Furthermore, public transportation rarely offers direct routes to desired destinations, often taking passengers on sightseeing detours within the city, leading to decreased efficiency. As a result, public transportation is primarily utilized by youngsters, non-drivers, and individuals without significant professional obligations.

[@leonardofelchnervii7905]

The biggest problem with public transport in Norway are the Polish drivers that hate Norwegians and try to run us off the road not to mention the nausea they create for the passengers on the dangerously driven buses. Plus a lot of Norwegian people young and old think it’s okay to put their filthy shoes on the empty seats.

[@TheFruitarianQueen]

🤍

[@Jadewisp]

US public transport is 100% safe, if you just remove the public part :P

[@runeingebretsen8378]

Americans don't bike,ok what if it was electric?

[@eivetjafrasenja]

Public transport is really 😊bad outside towns in Norway.

[@SwayErBest]

That’s wrong. Of course it’s going to be less options and more waiting time if you live in the more rural areas, but the public transport in general these places are not bad. If you don’t live completely abandoned, chances are you are one bus away from a main station that can get you real far.

[@larsbjrnson3101]

​@@SwayErBestTry taking the bus to and from Finnskogen because only school buses run there

[@eivetjafrasenja]

@@SwayErBest well try to live on Senja, you have to go to the dentist, who you will find in the nearest city, bus goes around 8 in the morning, to bus home goes around 5 in the evning. Do you want to try to have it that way for a hole lifetime? Not all people can drive a car for diffrent reasonens. And if you work, and can't drive self, you loose a hole day payment too.

[@rowaystarco]

@@larsbjrnson3101 The population density is also very low in these areas. Norway is nowhere the best European country for public transport, but we are far better than the US. In USA you'll have cities with 1 million+ residents with infrastructure not suitable for anything other than a car.

[@Dan-fo9dk]

@@rowaystarco What kind of scale do you operate on when using the term "...far better..." when in parts of Norway there are zero public transport....??? It's non-existent.... So zero is far better than zero.....ok.....

[@deepstatecia]

Problem is all is good in moderation. Oslo is very anti car, so if you need to get something bigger than you can fit in your hand. It feels like a backwards communist rat nest. When you have to move a sofa on a bike.