American Reacts to the Avro Vulcan Bomber Explained by Captain Joe | The Spirit of Britain

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[@stuartfitch7093]

If you want to understand the link of elgars land of hope and glory and the uk then I suggest a video on the last night of the proms.

[@BlameThande]

@@stuartfitch7093 Great idea!

[@stuartfitch7093]

There's also a documentary video on KZbin about operation black buck.

[@steved6092]

Great upload ... 😃👍

[@andrewbanham8433]

No country in the world had a suitable bomber. The longest distance bomber raid ever until a few years ago .

[@iangreenway5580]

This music is from the song “Land of Hope and Glory” and is one of the most patriotic British pieces of music. I find it very funny that such a piece of British patriotic music is used by Americans at their graduations.

[@ftumschk]

It became a patriotic anthem, but it started out as an orchestral military march by Elgar. King Edward VII liked it, and suggested to Elgar that it would make a good song, so Elgar got someone to write some words to fit the music :)

[@Cheezsoup]

NO it's not, the tune is by Elgar but is called POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE March No1 . It was only later when words were added to it by AC Benson that it was named 'Land of Hope and Glory' .

[@iangreenway5580]

@@Cheezsoup which is commonly known as “Land of Hope and Glory” en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Hope_and_Glory

[@Cheezsoup]

@@iangreenway5580 Yeah the song is 'land of hope and glory' but the music is 'Pomp and Circumstance March No1' So it's not the music is from the song it is the other way around.

[@paznewis107]

Elgar hated the words and all the singing along...

[@brushhead]

I've seen many grown men cry at Vulcan displays. A sound once heard (and felt) never forgotten.

[@DavetheNord]

Oh yes!

[@MrDazturismo]

Listened to the Vulcan Howl many times.

[@Beautifultruthofficial]

like the Lancaster and spitfire. I too cry... I miss my grandad. (General M.A.Liskutin DFC AFC RAF)

[@etherealhawk]

Sadly, no more Vulcans are flying anymore.

[@CBX-vp7db]

My grandfather was chief technical engineer on the programme. I have all the medals on my mantleplace. Probably , very valuable but would never sell.

[@cogidubnus1953]

Put yourself in the position of an Argentine government unsure just how much further the British Government was now prepared to go. Hearing that the Brits could send a heavy bomber with potentially a very large payload all the way to the Falklands, and knowing that Buenos Aires was roughly equidistant, they might well consider that Mrs Thatcher was trying to make a point...and I expect in her own inimitable way she was...I'm not a huge admirer of Mrs T or the Tories, but there were moments we needed someone of that ilk, and perhaps this was one.

[@russellblinman2560]

I remember seeing a cartoon at the time of a couple of Argentinian soldiers cowering in a foxhole - the comment was "Hey Pedro - just how big IS that aircraft carrier??"

[@tharoz6406]

@Brian Mason This is not what the released documents said. They show that both Thatcher, her government and military advisers were under US pressure and were prepared to negotiate, but the Argentinian leader was totally intransigent.

[@stuartspence3613]

@@tharoz6406 and Thatcher was soon to be up for reelection....hmmm I wonder......

[@ds1868]

The main threat to Argentina was from ballistic missiles from submarines and not an aerial assault. An attack on Argentina was never discounted. If any of the aircraft carriers had been sunk then certainly the airfields in Argentina would have been destroyed.

[@colinfield981]

I recall at the time there was a rumour that RAF was prepared to nuke airfields on Argentine mainland. Didn’t sound likely but maybe it was there to put the wind up them

[@airvermincontrol5033]

When she took off you could literally feel the ground move and your chest vibrate, when she throttled back she was as quiet as a mouse, miss the Vulcan

[@Beautifultruthofficial]

WE SHOULD GET THAT VICTOR IN THE SKY. THE ONE THAT ACCIDENTALLY TOOK OFF IN 09. APPARENTLY, IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE FOR A REFIT. #BLACKBUCK1 #VIRAL

[@Dave-qy1fn]

I can confirm this as being very true . When it was able to go full power Jesus Christ did it shake the ground

[@Snipersight00]

To be honest, the British have many iconic aircraft we keep close to our hearts like the Spitfire, the Mosquito, the Harrier, The English Electric Lightning, the Tornado, Concorde to name just a few.

[@Rafa-pr5fe]

I have a some history in my head,😁 but it seemed to me that the Concorde was a French-British construction, and as for the Tornado, it wasn't a British-German-Italian construction? It seems to me that I read about it somewhere in serious sources about the history of famous aircraft construction.

[@sammygirl5835]

Sopwith Camel, Fairey Swordfish

[@robertwilloughby8050]

The Buccaneer, and despite the fact it was a bit dangerous, the Sea Vixen.Oh and the Lancaster AND the Halifax. (I'm not having the "Halibag" forgotten here, not on my watch!)

[@lorrainemilford6157]

@@Rafa-pr5fe I believe the plans and development info was given to the French prior to the collaboration on the project. I could be wrong.

[@Rafa-pr5fe]

@@lorrainemilford6157 Bravo, finally someone noticed the point and irony of my statement. Unfortunately I must disappoint you my dear friend whoever you are. The Concorde construction initiative was common. To be precise, Britain and France started the projects at about the same time, but quickly realized that, with the USA and USSR developing similar plans, the only chance for their construction was to join efforts. Without going into the history thoroughly, because there is no place for it here. The basic aerodynamic system of the Concorde is derived from France from the Delta wing system. Marcel Dassault,, undoubtedly the most outstanding designer and aviation entrepreneur in France of the 20th century, the creator of the Dassault concern, introduced its for his series Mirage III fighters in the late 1950s. This plane, which was outside of France, among others, the main fighter of the Israeli Air Force, enabling it to achieve total air domination in the Six-Day War of 1967. It turned out that this wing arrangement proved to be much better in the fight against the Soviet MiGs 17, 19 and 21 than the famous series of American "wonderful hundreds" from F-100 to F-106 The system used by Dassault will be developed in the next series of his concern's fighters, the Mirage 5 as the so-called: "duck system". At the same time, it will also be independently introduced by Swedish SAAB in its JAS 37 Viggen, and is currently used by Dassault Rafale, JAS 39 Gripen, and Eurofighter Typhoon, the current basic RAF fighter plane, a joint British-German-Italian-Spanish project similar to the Tornado. In the Concorde project UK was responsible for the propulsion units (including the manner of their arrangement), referring to the design of both the De Havilland Comet and the series of V-type strategic bombers. The UK, together with France, also used its experience in the design of the passenger cabin, the Comet and VC-10 (another British passenger plane, which turned out to be a commercial failure) and the French Sud-Aviation Caravelle project, which turned out to be a success on the market of short and medium-haul passenger aircraft. . British also provided the research and experimental potential, especially Farnoborough Institute, in the final preparation and testing of prototypes. Making the story short. The US completely abandoned the concept of a supersonic passenger plane at the design stage. Instead, they followed the path started with the introduction of the Boeing 707 and the development of wide-body airliners, the most spectacular example of which was the Boeing 747 launched in 1970. The USSR with its TU-144 project practically never went beyond the stage of the experimental machine, and to this day it is not known how much it was own project and how much was based on the theft of some of Concorde's plans by the KGB. France, drawing conclusions from the successes of American concerns, almost before the end of the Concorde introduction project, lost interest in the project. Instead, it focused on the development project (together with West Germany) of Airbus aircraft by introducing the Airbus A-300 and A-310 to the market. This allowed for the situation in which Airbus has become today, together with Boeing, the main producer of large and medium passenger planes for airlines in the world.Only the desperate and erroneous belief of the British that supersonic passenger airliners are the future of aviation allowed the introduction of about 14 Concorde into service with British Airways and Air France. Despite its aerodynamic performance and being known as celebrity planes traveling across the Atlantic faster than others and with luxurious catering (also paying many times higher ticket prices on this route), the project turned out to be the proverbial "day without tomorrow". It also marked the final nail in the coffin of the development of long- and medium-range airliners by the UK aviation industry and the de facto end of this UK aviation manufacturing division. Of the entire British civil airliner industry, only Rolls-Royce remains on the battlefield today, and is today one of the engine suppliers for Airbus. Ironic.

[@anthonysharp1490]

I worked on the Vulcan as an aircraft mechanic propulsion whilst serving in the RAF, it is, lets say not the easiest to work on as everything is worked from underneath other than going down the intake or going up the exhaust, 1 type of engine an Olympus 200 and then the 300 series , but was also used for the concord Olympus 385 as test bed with it being underslung from the Vulcan. I will never forget the amount of skin lost on an engine change, but will never forget working on an aircraft which I still love.

[@RB-747]

This bombing campaign was so ridiculously long range that there were almost no other aircraft that could have been used - a bombing campaign was almost unanticipatable!

[@edmundscycles1]

Even the B-52 would need to refuel 3 times for that range .

[@Beautifultruthofficial]

WE SHOULD GET THAT VICTOR IN THE SKY. THE ONE THAT ACCIDENTALLY TOOK OFF IN 09. APPARENTLY, IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE FOR A REFIT. #BLACKBUCK1 #VIRAL

[@bigredmed]

The RAF had a squadron of Vulcans at Offutt AFB in Nebraska and we have one in our museum. Those things have so much power it could tip up on a wing tip and orbit the Tarmac during an airshow.

[@generaladvance5812]

The UK were actually working on making nuclear weapons before ww2 and shared their research with the US which contributed to Project Manhattans completion. The US after the war decided it would rather the UK didn't have nukes so refused to reciprocate. The UK ending up having to finish the research itself in the end.

[@mikdavies5027]

General Advance. The so-called 'special relationship' only applies when it suits the Americans!

[@generaladvance5812]

@@mikdavies5027 I do kind of understand to some extent. The US thought the UK would use nukes to cling onto the empire. Obviously that never happened, and honestly I think the UK managing it themselves makes for a better achievement in the end.

[@mikdavies5027]

@@generaladvance5812 My mother went to school with William Penney, on the Isle of Sheppey. (A very shy but clever man who helped to establish the British nuclear programme!)

[@MultiNacnud]

@@mikdavies5027 Correct,remember the UN vote requesting that the Argentinians leave the Falklands our so called NATO allies the Americans abstained .

[@ferney2936]

@@mikdavies5027 & my dad was his driver on Christmas Island for the 1956 H bomb tests

[@modeltrainstipsandtutorials]

I was at an ATC summer camp at RAF Scampton when the whole Cuba thing started and witnessed the Vulcans lined up ready to take off on a 24/7 basis - engines turning over all the time - they told us that the first aircraft would be in the air within 90 seconds of receiving the order to go.

[@SciFi2525252000]

The red planes are the Red Arrows, the RAF's display Squadron.

[@MegaBadgeman]

Hawk trainers I think.

[@threestepssideways1202]

@@MegaBadgeman Yes. They are based at RAF Scampton, two miles north of where I live. I'm lucky enough to enjoy a display on a more than occasional basis as they do their training.

[@markpstapley]

Think of the British equivalent of the US Thunderbirds, US Blue Angels, or Canadian Snow Birds aerobatic display teams

[@simonwebster1370]

@@markpstapley had the pleasure of seeing the Blue Angels in the 90s at RAF Finningley. What would have made the display better is if there wasn't low clouds 😥

[@apep8896]

@@MegaBadgeman Hawk T1 training planes. yeah.

[@jcobbett1958]

As far as I am aware (someone will correct me) the Falklands was the only time the Vulcan was used in anger. I grew up as a child in the 60's, about 5 miles from the Vulcan base at Waddington in Lincolnshire. During the cuban missile crisis I remember them flying what seemed like 24 hours a day, I would lay in bed at night and hear the 'howl' as they went off. It was actually reassuring.

[@alexboitz8540]

After Garry Powers high level U2 was shot down by the Russians the high level role of the white anti nuclear flash painted vulcans was changed to low level , and the white was replaced by camo.

[@TheNordog]

Filmed by the English Electric Canberra so we of the RAF said many times and NASA still have three of them in service now.

[@michaelevans205]

My father was in the RAF at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. He was based with Douglas Thor missiles in East Anglia. They were briefed that, if the missiles had to be fired, they could use whatever time there might be before the anticipated Soviet counter strike arrived they could try, (try being the operative word), to go home. During the Falklands War the RAF only had the Vulcan available to do the long range job. Actually, there were other aircraft that COULD have been used ( the Buccaneer and Tornado, for example ), but they didn't have the range to do the job - the Tornado was still so new it wasn't fully operational anyway - and with Britain reevaluating it's NATO role the longer ranged bombers were obsolete and literally on the verge of retirement when the Falklands War began. Incidentally, the primary pilot for the Vulcan displays you saw there was Martin Withers who just happened to be the captain of the aircraft that carried out that first raid in the Falklands. These were the only times the Vulcan was used in anger. .....thank goodness because, if it had been used at any other time, then it would have failed as a deterrent and we'd probably all be dead!

[@idavroslives]

A 'party trick' of Vulcan pilots at air shows was to immediately do a slow roll over the crowd straight after take off. That great big bird almost upside down at under 500 feet! Impressive, but terrifying.

[@seanbissett-powell5916]

Did you ever see their other party trick ? I think it was banned after a while, but I saw it at Greeham and Mildenhall in the late 70's. They'd take the Vulcan slowly along the flightline and then stand her on the tail, using pure thrust to hold her hovering stationary at about 100 feet above the ground for 10-15 seconds. Seriously ear-splitting, and no other plane at the time could do it.

[@idavroslives]

I remember that!

[@paulqueripel3493]

Over the crowd? I thought that was banned in the UK after the Farnborough 1952 show.

[@seanbissett-powell5916]

@@paulqueripel3493 Well, they weren't directly over the crowd, more in front of it on the other side of the barriers. I live in Farnborough, and the 1952 accident is still talked of here.

[@paulqueripel3493]

@@seanbissett-powell5916 my sister's mother in law left the hill a couple of minutes before the bits crashed into it. I meant that since then, there have been strict rules about manoeuvres at airshows, and I'd be very surprised that they'd have been allowed to perform over a crowd. In front of , yes.

[@Penster-Elle]

The AVRO Vulcan was perhaps the most beautiful aircraft ever to fly in any air force around the world. The sound was unique and was not only heard, but felt. In the depths of your chest the aircraft became a part of you. She was elegant and graceful in flight, and held people spellbound as they watched her cavort through the heavens in a way no heavy bomber should have been able to. The white paint scheme was an early 'anti-flash' scheme. It was to protect the aircraft from the effects of the flash as an atomic bomb detonated. Later they adopted the more common camouflage of green/grey seen on many other aircraft. As a bomber the main role was to carry atomic weapons, but could also carry normal high explosive 'dumb' bombs. The Vulcan was designed to be a high altitude bomber, but handled so exceptionally well it was used in a low altitude (below enemy radar) role. There were no other aircraft in the RAF inventory that could fly far enough to complete a bombing mission to the Falkland Islands. The Valiant was retired, the Victors had all been converted to tankers and our other bomber, the Panavia Tornado didn't have the range or bomb capacity to do the job. The main job of Blackbuck was not just to bomb the airfield, it was to warn Argentina that we could come for them at home as well. It worked. The RAF is now much, much smaller (as are all the British Forces), to our shame. The red aircraft that are seen flying in formation with the Vulcan are the world famous Red Arrows, the RAF display team flying the BAE Systems Hawk Mk1. As a point of interest, the AVRO Vulcan was also used as the flying test bed for the engines that went on to power the Concorde. Finally, Land of Hope And Glory is a uniquely patriotic piece of music, and has been called Britain's second national anthem, and rightly so. No true Briton can hear it without a swell to the chest and a raised voice to join the chorus: Land of hope and glory Mother of the free How shall we extol thee Who are born of thee

[@redhed5309]

Im turning 18 this year , eventhough i was young when i saw it , i have never forgotten seeing that beast fly over......and the car alarms that followed

[@iangreenway5580]

NNNNOOOOOO! The Cold War involved all of NATO. I spent 5 years of my life as a British soldier in Germany in the 80’s as a deterrent against USSR aggression. In 1986 when I was first station in West Germany I was one of over 50,000 British troops serving there.

[@tomhirons7475]

forlorn hope, my father was a csm royal marine 42 commando

[@white-dragon4424]

The way Hollywood acts you'd think we were on the Soviet's side!

[@vinnyganzano1930]

Life in Germany for British soldiers was pretty good, I went from Germany to Belfast, not so good.

[@nirfz]

May i add, the Cold War not just involved all of NATO, but also all of the Warsaw Pact nations as well as to some extend the neutral nations of europe. (I know of at least one neutral nation that changed it's national defense doctrin after the cold war ended, as the threat and impacting scenarios became totaly different.)

[@iangreenway5580]

@@nirfz yes but the USSR (which included all of the Warsaw Packet countries) where the enemy so we don’t count them. 😂🤣😂

[@donaldcrawford5577]

in the 70.s I worked for Unigate Dairies. Went all over the east coast area. At that time, the Avro Bombers were stationed along one of a major road just off it. It was very interesting watching the Vulcans regularly taking off and landing. The US airforce also had tank busting aircrafts. They were famous for flying low and slow. They had 2 large engines either side. RAF Scampton also had a NAAFI, which We supplied dairy products. The last famous Lancaster Bomber was based there. Always having regular check ups. I seem to remember one Lancaster bomber was at the entrance on some kind of stilts. Happy days now sadly just memories of working for a great company.

[@charlestaylor3027]

It was the longest bombing mission ever at the time.

[@phillee2814]

And still is from a single fixed base. Longer missions have already pre-positioned forward tanker support.

[@charlestaylor3027]

@@phillee2814 Victor tankers left from Ascension to be in position for Vulcan refuelling

[@phillee2814]

@@charlestaylor3027 They ALL flew from Ascension Island's single runway. That was the single fixed base they were all deployed to, left from, and returned to. And all had a single crew. The only addition was an air-to-air refuelling instructor (not a Vulcan qualified pilot), to help with juggling the insanely complex and constantly changing fueling plan. Ascension to The Falkland Islands and back, fifteen hours and forty-five minutes airborne. Check with Martin Withers if you like.

[@politikilter6446]

The only bomber with a longer range, that would have been available, was the American B52. Unfortunately America did not want to get involved... for political reasons.

[@petermicklethwaite6281]

I remember a comment made by one of the announcers at RAF finningleys air shows, when he said that now the Vulcan is taking off. Unlike the B52 it doesn't need the circumference of the earth to get airborne.

[@keithchapman109]

The music is by Elgar, "Land of Hope and Glory" very British!

[@tammywehner3269]

we just know it as "pomp and circumstance", traditional at our high-school graduations.

[@chrislawley6801]

Great to hear the colonies of the US are playing this 🤣

[@EricIrl]

@@tammywehner3269 Elgar didn't write "Land of Hope and Glory". It's a much older piece of music. He included his version of it in his Pomp and Circumstance piece. The RAF is very much smaller now than at the peak of the Cold War. I would say it has less than 1/10 of the Front Line Aircraft it had in 1970. The Vulcan was originally designed to drop an atom bomb on its target from an altitude of around 50,000 feet. At that height, the camouflage was not that important. So, initially, the V-Bombers were painted in a Gloss White finish in order to protect the aircraft from the intense bright flash when the atom bomb detonated. It was called Anti-Flash White. The RAF markings and serials were also painted in lighter shades than normal. After Gary Powers was shot down at around 70,000 feet by a Soviet SAM missile, high level bombing was deemed unworkable so the V Force switched to low level. That was when camouflage was first applied. The camouflage scheme changed a bit over the next twenty years. The scheme worn by the last airworthy Vulcan, which you see in many of the video clips, was the last scheme worn by the Vulcans and included what was called "wrap around" camouflage where the top surface markings were extended around the underside of the aircraft too. The French also had their own independent nuclear strike capability ("Force de Frappe". They used the supersonic Dassault Mirage IV as their nuclear strike bomber. It is a very impressive aeroplane - like the Vulcan it was a delta wing design but it could fly over twice as fast. In 1982 the Vulcans were in the process of being retired so the RAF struggled to find a handful of aircraft capable of carrying out the Black Buck raids. The Valiants had been retired in 1964 and all the remaining Victors had been converted into air to air tankers. The Vulcan was the only aircraft capable of bombing The Falklands from Ascension Islands. Britain's main bomber/ground attack aircraft in 1982 were the Tornado (just introduced), the Jaguar, the Buccaneer and the Harrier GR3. The Tornado and Buccaneer had much shorter ranges than the Vulcan. The Jaguar had no air to air refueling capability. The Harrier GR3 had the shortest range of them all and a limited bomb load - but a small number were based on two aircraft carriers which were being used in the Royal Navy Task Force. The music being played at the 13 minute mark is the theme from the 1981 film, "Chariots of Fire". It was written by Vangelis. The famous barrel roll was not performed on "the inaugural flight". Chief test pilot Roly Falk carried out the manoeuver at the 1958 Farnborough Air Show (which is where the film footage was shot). The main reason why the last airworthy Vulcan was finally grounded was not because of the civil aviiation regulator in the UK (the CAA) withdrawing permission. This last Vulcan required technical support from both Rolls Royce (for the engines) and Marshalls of Cambridge (for the airframe) to keep it in the air. Those two companies withdrew their support in 2015. The Vulcan is indeed delta winged. If you look at the various marks of Vulcan (prototype, B1 and B2) you will see that the wing evolved over the production life. The prototype had a simple straight leading edge. Production Vulcans had a more sophisticated "S" shape to their wing leading edges. The red aircraft formating with the Vulcan are BAe Hawk T1s as flown by the RAF's official display team, The Red Arrows. The "Arrows" are similar in concept to the US Air Force's "Thunderbirds" and the US Navy's "Blue Angels" Those aren't contrails coming out of the back of the Hawks. They are deliberately generated smoke trails. The smoke is generated by injecting diesel fuel into the hot exhaust. Dye is added to give red white and blue colours. The Vulcan's only real action was during the Falkland's War. They were part of the nuclear deterrent during the Cold War and the fact that it wasn't used in anger for its intended original atomic bomb mission shows it kind of achieved its aim.

[@halcroj]

Pomp and Circumstance No 1 is played every year at the Last Night of the Proms. The BBC Promenade Concerts are a summer festival of concerts, mostly classical but not exclusively so. The second half of the last night is very light hearted has a fairly traditional repertoir of which this is one. When the tune comes up, firstly it's quiet and the audience hums along, when it's repeated loudly, everyone sings. There are various examples of the last night of the proms on KZbin. The Proms are so called because while the audience around the Royal Albert Hall sit in seats raised - like bleachers but much more comfortable, in the centre of the hall, a flat area, there's no seating and the audience stands, rather like Shakespeare's groundlings in the Globe Theatre. Standing tickets can't be booked and are very cheap. For popular concerts, people are always eager to be at the Hall first in the queue for places in the standing area, and once past the box office, there's a dash across to floor to get to the front of the arena and get the best positions. There are three verses to Land of Hope and Glory but most people only know the first one: Land of Hope and Glory, Mother of the Free, How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee? Wider still, and wider, shall thy bounds be set; God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet! God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet!

[@Motor_Mike]

Music Composed by Edward Elgar and lyrics by Arthur Benson at request of King of England......

[@kingllama2325]

some parts for the air-to-air refusing system were actually acquired from Vulcans in museums! The armed forces of the UK had been scaled back somewhat through the 70s and early 80s which is why we only had the Vulcan as a bomber, which was on the edge of being retired completely at the time of the Falklands. In the early 70's our aircraft carriers had air to surface attack capability (Blackburn Buccaneer) Air to air attack (F4 Phantoms running Rolls Royce engines for more power than the US version due to shorter aircraft carrier deck) and the Sea King helicopters as anti-submarine defence. By the 80's the UK aircraft carriers were pretty much a fighter launching platform for the Harrier. Vulcan 607 by Rowland White is a great book on the Vulcan in the Falklands, Phoenix Squadron by the same author is about the UK's last big aircraft carrier and also worth a good read.

[@swifty7236]

Also the reason "Pomp and Circumstance" or rather the lyrical version "Land of Hope and Glory" is played at US College Graduations is because the composer Edward Elgar received an honorary degree from Yale who played it at the ceremony. After Yale used the tune, Princeton used it. So did the University of Chicago, and Columbia. I think it spiralled from that and has now become a tradition at US college graduations

[@Pinzpilot101]

At many airshows I have been to when the Vulcan took off all the car alarms would start.....One of the main differences between the B52/ Soviet bomber of the time, and the Vulcan was that the B52 was never designed to be able to 'duck and dive if anything came after it, it's maneuverability was limited, whereas the Vulcan could be thrown around over the sky like a fighter.

[@archiebald4717]

Only ten years between the WWII Lancaster bomber and the Vulcan. Incredible!

[@MegaBadgeman]

One Lancaster had two engines replaced with jet ones and was used to test them.

[@EricIrl]

@@MegaBadgeman Not even ten years.

[@funfairclipsuk_]

Guys you are forgetting the bigger and more efficient bomber in ww2 the Lincoln by avro

[@EricIrl]

@@funfairclipsuk_ The Lincoln actually missed World War 2. It arrived in service too late to see any action. They were used during the Malayan crisis of the early- mid 1950s. The Lincoln was an improved development of the Lancaster. It was originally called the Lancaster X. It was viewed as an interim design pending the arrival of the V bombers.

[@neiljennings8822]

This lady is so cool. So real. Well narrated - thank you. Those red planes are the "red arrows" a UK display teams of modern fighter pilots flying vintage red jets at airshows etc. to showcase the British royal air force. The Avro Vulcan was so formidable (state of the art) engineering 70 years ago

[@colinfield981]

Not sure they are vintage. They are current RAF kit

[@keithchapman109]

The red planes are the Red Arrows a display team rather like your Blue Angels, I think they are Hawk trainers.

[@MegaBadgeman]

I think you're right there.

[@decam5329]

British Aerospace Hawk T1. Standard British jet trainer since 1979. The US Navy use a carrier version called the Goshawk.

[@MegaBadgeman]

@@decam5329 I remember building the Airfix kit. And the Gnat.

[@decam5329]

@@MegaBadgeman yea 😁, I've the same memory 😃👍🏻.

[@white-dragon4424]

Red Arrows (RAF) are more akin to the USAF Thunderbirds.

[@Snowdogash]

To reply to some of your questions! The RAF did have more aircraft back in the day, it's been slowly decreasing in size as aircraft become more multirole and effective/efficient. The paint scheme was for low level bombing, which we switched to after Gary Powers was shot down in his U2. Before that the Vulcans were all painted anti flash white for nuclear survivability. The vulcan was used in 1982 for the bombing because nothing else had the range and bomb capacity. That gap was filled with the Tornado and its JP223 anti airfield munition a few years later. But it was all we had at the time. The howl is incredible, it would be terrifying as an enemy. At airshows everyone would stop what they are doing to look. The red planes are our Red Arrows. They are the RAFs aerobatic display team. One of the best in the world. If you haven't seen them and they come to the US, they are worth a watch. Its strange, but understandable that some people haven't heard of the Vulcan. It's a household name in the UK. Even people that aren't remotely interested in aircraft stand with their mouths open when it used to fly over. So glad I got to see it.

[@SciFi2525252000]

The Cold War was between NATO and the Warsaw Pact, not just between the US and USSR!

[@Doug1885]

What on earth do they teach the kids in U.S. schools…..”We did it all by ourselves” obviously

[@090giver090]

It was indeed mainly between US and USSR, but both countries has their own little gang to follow.

[@Doug1885]

@@090giver090 …..🙄

[@kylereese4822]

It could be put into service again if the need arose(I'd take a chance if i had no other choice) due to it being maintained(the old bird has still got it what it takes)....:):)

[@090giver090]

@@Doug1885 yeah, you know... Like two jocks who rival each other in highschool. Each of them having a band of minions who do a little chores for them here and there. ) NATO members (especially lesser ones) had not much to say on strategic level (that's what made deGaul to throw a tantrum and formally leave the organisation in 1966) and Warsaw pact members were straight up soviet puppet states with single purpose to act on Moscow's directives.

[@peterjeevesphotography7613]

To answer some of your questions: The Black Buck raids on the Falklands were carried out by a Vulcan because it was the only bomber available at the time with any chance of covering the distance and carrying a large enough bomb load to do any worthwhile damage. As far as I know all of the Victors were converted to K2 tanker spec. The 3rd V Bomber, the Valiant, had been grounded by metal fatigue failures from low altitude flying. The RAF is a lot smaller now than it was during the cold war. The bombing roles are now fullfilled by the Eurofighter Typhoon and F35 Lightning 2. We don't have any heavy bombers in the way the USAF does. The French are also partly responsible for the grounding of Vulcan XH558 and part of the engineering and certification was done by EADS, now Airbus, which is French and withdrew it's support for the aircraft. In terms over Vulcans in the US, there's one in Ashland, Nebraska one in Atwater, CA and one in Bossier City, Louisiana. If you can get to one of them and get into the cockpit I'd recommend it.

[@charlestaylor3027]

The Avro Lancaster was going to be the carrier of the atom bomb to Japan if the B-29 hadn't been ready.

[@garryatkinson815]

The Vulcan entered service about 10 years after Hiroshima

[@StephenButlerOne]

@@garryatkinson815 he said Lancaster

[@baylessnow]

Actually it was going to be Lancaster Bombers as the Lancaster could carry the A bombs without any modification to the long large bomb bay, unlike the Strato Fortress, which had two bomb bays, one behind the other. Fuel capacity and distance/range was the problem for the Lancs' so the British even invented mid air refueling to get around the problem but as we know, the Lancasters were never used. American patriotism put payed to that.

[@garryatkinson815]

@@StephenButlerOne oops,best put my glasses on!!

[@charlestaylor3027]

@@baylessnow kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4m7aqOqeLOjn80 The Lancaster did require modification and the pilots were specially trained.

[@simonchaddock4274]

By the time of the Falklands war with Argentina the UK nuclear deterrent had been transferred to submarines with Polaris missiles. The V bombers were 'retired' from first line duty but the Vulcan remained the only RAF plane that could carry a 20,000 lb conventional bomb load over 2000 miles. They remained being used to 'show the flag' until their airframe hours expired. There were only a handful of Vulcans left by the time they were required for the Falklands raids. In effect the Black Buck raids 'used up' all the remaining airframe hours on both the Vulcan and Victor fleets.

[@johnnylingo4686]

The Vulcan was designed for a European cold war. Distance was with Europe and Russia in mind.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

The connection between vulcan and concorde is that they used a vulcan to test the engines for concorde, the concorde engines being a development of the engines used by the vulcan. When the Falklands war started, the Royal navy and the Royal Air force had been stripped right back in cost cutting measures. A few years before the Royal navy lost its last proper aircraft carrier and only had the smaller carriers designed for the sea harrier which was untested and unknown at the time of the Falklands (but showed how good it was!). If the navy had still had a carrier it is possible they may have taken the buccaneer over with them, which had been designed for sea warfare and initially the raf never wanted when they got them on the disbanding of the buccaneer fleet air arm squadrons. The rest of the fleet was hastily assembled and they lost a lot of the helicopters when the artcic conveyer was sunk (I think it was that one? ). The raf didn't have any long range strike aircraft at that time aside from the vulcan with the refuelling. They could maybe have gotten the raf harrier out there, but they had a lot of commitments to nato in Germany to content with too. The tornado would have been in service, but again all committed to UK defence and nato at the time as ussr was still deemed a big threat in 1982, though less so than 1962. By the time the first gulf War came around, the UK had much better options and better ability to stage from (the Falklands was difficult to stage in the sense that the us didn't want to get involved due to politics though apparently offered a aircraft carrier and provided most of the fuel used at ascension Island (which was operated by the US by this time)).

[@musicbruv]

Camo on top of the aircraft makes it harder to spot from above as it blends in the the green and browns of the ground.

[@alanelesstravelled8218]

Originally the V force were painted in all over anti-flash white (nuclear bomber). They were then painted in a camouflage pattern topside and light grey on the under surfaces (high level bombing). The Vulcans were then painted in an all over camouflage when they changed to low level bombing.

[@kevincasey5035]

A Lane Less Travelled .....and when we say low level bombing we mean low level bombing. Not the 300 ft approach to Port Stanley more like under 100 ft or less. Had a friend who went to Red Flag in Nevada with Bucs. Told a story of a Vulcan flying at sub 100ft being "shot down" by a Yank only to reveal it was covering up two Bucs underneath. The Bucs always needed repainting on return to Blighty.

[@alanelesstravelled8218]

@@kevincasey5035 I remember the BBC showing a live firing exercise on Salisbury Plain. A Vulcan flew in at tree top level, dropping a stick of retard bombs on the target.

[@paul-t-geist4245]

These planes were up 24/7 when I was a kid in the 60/70s,you could see small triangular shapes at high altitude.Seen 5 of these takeoff one after the other at airshows in the 70s, absolutely unforgettable experience and the noise was horrendous.The white colouration was 'anti flash' to protect them from flash from the nuclear weapons they were carrying.Sadly there are no longer any left flying.Great video. In answer to your last question,I think the Falklands mission was the only one the Vulcan did 'in anger'.

[@shanenolan8252]

I remember one of the Sean Connery bond movies thunderball was about a stolen Vulcan bomber with a nuclear payload aboard.

[@johnp8131]

With the non-existant access door?

[@shanenolan8252]

@@johnp8131 yes . Great movie

[@johnp8131]

@@shanenolan8252 I always made us laugh. It would have been far easier to have direct access from the bomb bay to the cockpit rather than climbing up and down ladders.

[@shanenolan8252]

@@johnp8131 yes . Remember the underwater battle at the end ?

[@johnp8131]

@@shanenolan8252 I do, my dad took me to see it for my Birthday when it came out!

[@regfenster]

At the Cuban missile crisis we were 5 seconds to midnight, a term of how close the world was to nuclear conflict, yes the V fleet was on the runways and fully armed to go with engines running. It is frightening to imagine how close we were to the end of days.

[@BlameThande]

12:20 The Black Buck raid by the Vulcan on the Falklands was the longest-range bombing run in history, so no, it certainly wasn't routine! I don't think there's any bomber in the world that could have done that distance in one go. The point was the Argentines had captured the Falklands and South Georgia islands, so the nearest airfield was almost seven thousand miles away at Ascension - not a scenario anyone had ever planned for!

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

Great video. As a pilot, the RAF had nothing more better for the job. The issue was range and payload (bombs) which is why there was an enormous logistics plan to get Operation Blackbuck completed. The flight plan is still the benchmark in aviation. So no, the Vulcan wasn't suited to bomb a runway near Antarctica but they made it happen.

[@langdalepaul]

Best display aircraft ever. It wasn’t just the awesome Vulcan howl. When those 4 Olympus engines racked up to max chat, the sound echoed through your body and shook you to the core, crackling like the flames of hell. Those wingovers you saw in the video were a brilliant display of just how manoeuvrable this aircraft was; much more than a large, heavy strategic bomber should have been capable of. This is why so many of us contributed to get XH558 back into the skies and displaying again. It was so sad when she was finally grounded. Air shows will never be the same again.

[@andrewwalton6236]

I imagine the effect is not dissimilar to the Junkers Stukker and it's Jericho Horn

[@fionaparkinson3821]

The music is written by Elgar. In the UK, it’s known as “Land of Hope and Glory”. It’s dated to 1902. Elgar was a resident of The Firs in Worcestershire. Not only could he pronounce it, but he was very much inspired by the landscape. The Malvern hills were definitely a feature. The Malverns are known for their spring water ( Queen Elizabeth always had Malvern Water with her). The spring is still free and you can fill your water bottle with Malvern Water free of charge. It’s also the home of Morgan Cars. They’re still made there and there’s a waiting list to own one. I think at the moment it’s 2 yrs from ordering the car, to getting it. It’s that rare car that goes up in value after you get it.

[@langdalepaul]

@@fionaparkinson3821 very interesting, but what does this have to do with my comment?

[@thecraigster8888]

Fifty years ago I was stationed at SAC Hq in Omaha. Due to SIOP requirements there was an RAF detachment at the base. Vulcans flew into the base all the time. They sure looked a lot cooler than our boring RC-135s. Today, at the SAC Aerospace museum outside of Omaha they have a Vulcan on display. The reason Britain didn’t build bigger bombers like the U.S. had is that they didn’t need to. Check the range they had to cover at 10:52 in the video. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Integrated_Operational_Plan near the end of this wiki article, there is a whole section on the U.K.’s role in the SIOP mission.

[@benwheeldon9055]

That sound always gives me goosebumps, I saw one fly twice luckily over the years, the Vulcan howl/roar is so special

[@Beautifultruthofficial]

WE SHOULD GET THAT VICTOR IN THE SKY. THE ONE THAT ACCIDENTALLY TOOK OFF IN 09. APPARENTLY, IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE FOR A REFIT. #BLACKBUCK1 #VIRAL

[@afpwebworks]

The English never miss an opportunity to have a dig at the French. I saw a comment on another channel from a Brit who said "you need to understand that everything we do is designed to annoy the French. That's why we have the London terminal for the Eurostar at Waterloo Station"

[@raymartin7172]

I was lying on my grandmother's lawn one sunny afternoon in1960? When I heard a howl. Seconds later a Vulcan flew, low, overhead. Awestruck.. We didn't see many military aircraft in Northumberland then. I've been in love with the aeroplane ever since. Looked up into the bomb bay of one at Duxford a year or two ago.

[@ferney2936]

A summer day in 1967, I'm sitting in the grass beside the runway at RAF St Athan with my best mate Paul when a whole squadron of these come in & do 'circuits & bumps' i.e, they touch down with their main undercarriage, then pour on full power & shoot up again into the sky and the next one takes their place seconds later....after 6 or 7 of these we weren't at all sure that we'd physically survive the shock. We were only 10 years old. Now , of course, I realise that the experience was a privilege that no one can ever have again. From today's perspective it seems strange that boys were allowed to roam freely around the runways but it was so. There was no security either. Truly, the past is another country

[@ianedmonds9191]

It was 8,000 nautical miles away from our bomber bases. That's a 16,000NM trip. We had recently retired our big Aircraft carrier; the Ark Royal that could have launched Phantoms to bomb it so we only had the Vulcans. We could have maybe used the harriers from the other two carriers but the enemy would have had air superiority before they arrived so they likely would not have been able to knock out the runway from the carrier. It was an epic long range mission and one the UK is rightly very proud of. Luv and Peace.

[@ianedmonds9191]

I've read people saying that there was an implicit threat to the Argentine government by showing that we could fly the Vulcans all the way to South America. That at least tacitly puts Nukes on the table and brings the threat directly to mainland Argentina. Not sure what real world pressure that would have exerted but it would underline the power differential between the two countries. Luv and Peace.

[@davidanderson5055]

I applaud you for wanting to learn about this. It's a shame that so many Americans are unaware of UK's history.

[@joeysausage3437]

And you know this how? Trust me, you know very little about the US.

[@TheDagda1000]

Trust ME, "Joey", we are inundated and swamped with information about the US. Sadly, very little information about other countries seems to reach the average US citizen. It seems that, to the average American, the "World" starts at the state of Maine in the east, and Hawaii in the west. The rest of the real world is a mystery. There are so many US-based KZbinrs who are honest enough to say they didn't know such-and-such a fact about the UK. Such a pity you're not one of the honest ones.

[@craigpreedy8855]

I was 6 years old when I saw the Vulcan at a local air show. I was facing the airfield when this “howl” came from behind. I jumped so much I burnt my arm on my fathers cigarette! Loudest noise I’d ever heard. I’m 53 now, never forgotten that day. Red Arrows, Lancaster Bomber, Spitfire, Hurricane and dancing helicopters!

[@dudders5734]

My father who was in the army was posted to Cyprus in the early seventies. I was 12 years old and watched Vulcan bombers take off from RAF Akrotiri. The noise was so loud I could feel it in my bones. I also watched Lightning jets. Happy days.

[@robthornton6288]

Your question at 12:05 about why the Vulcan, and did Britain have other bombers? The Harriers deployed on HMS Hermes and HMS Invincible were primarily for air to air actions against the Argentine Air Force (and shot a lot of aircraft down without losing a single Harrier in air to air combat). However they did also carry out some successful bombing attacks on the airfield, but didn't have the necessary bombs to take out the runway. With regard to other bombers, at that time, the RAF had Tornados and Jaguars which were designed to go into the Warsaw Pact countries fast and at very low level (under the radar), but their range was nowhere near that of the Vulcans, and their bombloads were significantly less than the Vulcans. I think part of it was a message to the Argentine government that "we can hit you from so far away, maybe next time it will be your airfields in Mainland Argentina?"

[@ChrisPbiker]

If you hear the "howl", other than in a slow low-level air show, you're probably safe, it's already over the next country!🤣

[@001-j7l]

18:15 Those red aircraft are RAFAT (Royal Air Force Aerobatic Team) also known as the Red Arrows, the aircraft they use is a Hawk T1 and have a rich interesting history themselves, similar to the U.S. Blue Angels, however RAFAT are leagues above ;)

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

After the cold war seemed to be cooling, there was a move more towards ICBM's rather than long range bombers. It's easier to sneak a submarine close to an enemy country than it is to fly bombers there. After the Vulcan, there really wasn't a call in the UK for bombers that could fly further than they had needed to during the cold war.

[@martyngray48]

I was a young able seaman down the Falklands during the war.we used Vulcan because of the distance and the amount of bombs she can carry and to show Argentina if needed we could bomb their main land although we would use our subs to do that

[@KingCharles3]

The RAF has no larger bomber planes anymore as submarines do the work of V-bombers and fighter jets do the rest

[@wbertie2604]

As soon as the Vulcan entered service it was known that by 1960 it would be too vulnerable to use in a high-altitude role. The first thought was to use ground-based ballistic missiles, and a lot of the research into that was used by the USA for its silos. In the end submarines were used. Vulcans were then swapped to a low altitude nuclear role in the 1960s as that would be a bit more survivable, except would blind pilots. The Victor and Valiant wing designs precluded this low altitude role, although a redesigned Victor was considered.

[@mikeandtriciajohnson7241]

@@wbertie2604 Both the Valiant and the Victor were put into low altitude camouflage and used at low level. In the case of the Valiant it caused premature fatigue of the wing main spar and the aircraft was taken out of service, only one survives currently at the Cosford branch of the RAF museum. The Victor had a greater bomb load than the Vulcan but to preserve it's fatigue life it was converted to be an air to air tanker and for strategic reconnaissance using it's radar in mapping mode. Interestingly all 3 V bombers had a variation of the H2S radar carried by wartime Lancasters.

[@wbertie2604]

@@mikeandtriciajohnson7241 Yes, the wing design of the Vulcan was much better for low-level operations. As I mentioned before, there was an attempt to redesign the Victor for low-level operations, with a sort of podded engine. I can't really scan the pages of my books and post them here. However, it didn't offer sufficient advantages over the Vulcan that was already available for the job for no significant extra cost apart from some paint and a few small equipment changes. There were some other slightly bizzare designs from the period too for the low-level strategic nuclear pop-up role, but Vulcan fulfilled that with Blue Streak until it was retired from the deterrent role in 1970. I don't think any of the odd designs (some with the bomb/missile on top of the fuselage) would have made it into service by 1970 anyway.

[@donaldcrawford5577]

Great, however, the V Bombers together with allied airforces stopped a Nuclear war happening. What price can that cost for a safe world? Not forgetting satellites forever spying on the whole planet.

[@funfairclipsuk_]

The raf has no bombers anymore,plane-wise we have to use the new Boeing p8a Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft

[@stonesie81]

15:14 I'm pretty sure that Hollywood have used the Vulcan's howl in a few monster movies, it really does sound like some kind of otherworldly beast... I'm fortunate to live within 20 miles of DSA airport, the former RAF Finningley where XH558 lives and used to head down there to see her depart for air shows, sometimes the pilots practiced the display routine over head. There's a phone video of it on my channel. The howl is a hard thing to capture as you can as much feel it as hear it in person. I recommend Guy Martin - Last Flight of the Vulcan for some stunning footage of this bird in flight (shot from an aerobatic aircraft flying VERY close)

[@recreationalcombat]

I saw one of these fly at an airshow. Its flew in silently from behind the crowd and climbed steeply just over the crowd thus producing the howl. was amazing

[@mothmagic1]

I don't know about the Victor and the Valiant but the Vulcan could be left with the switches so configured that in the event of a scramble the Vulcan could perform a "gang start". Rather than starting each engine individually the push of a single button would start all four at once.

[@spearhafoc]

Three aviation sounds that are stuck in my memory - the sound of a Spitfire flying overhead, the sound of a Wasp helicopter (you could hear it five minutes before you saw it) and the magnificent sound of a Vulcan bomber, And the Vulcan looked so beautiful in flight as well.

[@polarisukyc1204]

Don’t forget the hawker blue note!

[@grahamwilson8789]

There is a true story told by a TV presenter called Jeremy Clarkson which you will be amazed by. How difficult it is to win the Victoria cross, the highest medal of honour for British armed forces. It is quite amazing what the recipients have done. It will blow your mind, absolutely incredible.

[@ellisonsimon]

Land of hope and glory, mother of the free, how shall we extol thee, who are born of thee….. One of the most stirring and patriotic anthems for the English.

[@sgkingly8392]

Hi, I am in a unique position to give a bit more info about the Vulcan as I am involved with the preservation and restoration of Vulcan B.2 XM594 First answers to the questions: The vulcans had 3 main schemes: Anti-flash white, wrap around camo and camo on the top with white on the underside (on some aircraft the white was replaced with different greys) The purpose of the anti-flash white was to reflect some of the thermal radiation from a nuclear weapon. Once the Vulcan went away from its nuclear role and later on in the service life the camo schemes appeared to aid the aircraft to blend in to terrain. Most commonly seen on the low altitude Vulcans which you can tell when its a low altitude Vulcan because of the stub on the nose of them which is the terrain following radar. For the mission to the Falklands, no other aircraft we had were capable. The range needed was simply far too far since the UK is very close to what was then the Soviet Union so extra long range bombers were not needed. Any naval aircraft that could get there simply did not have the capacity to carpet bomb a runway. As for the howl sound. If I remember correctly it occurs above 98% throttle so it would likely be heard after the bombs left the bomb bay and the jet was getting out of there The red jets are the RAF Aerobatic Team, the Red Arrows. They operate BAe Systems Hawk T.1 aircraft which have been modified with an under the fuselage tank. The white contrails that you pointed out are not contrails, rather diesel from the tank that is pumped into the jet exhaust via 3 different pipes (one for white, blue and red smoke dies), the diesel then vaporises and creates the smoke The Falklands was the only time a Vulcan ever dropped bombs in anger Now some more information about the Vulcan in general The Vulcan had 5 crew each: Captain, Co-Pilot, AEO, Nav Plotter and Nav Radar. Captain and Co Pilot sat on the flight deck facing forwards, the other 3 sat on the lower rear deck facing a wall of instruments and facing the back of the plane The jet started out with a straight leading edge on the delta wing, that was then changed to a kinked wing to improve the flying characteristics of the plane. It was also one of the first aircraft to use fly by wire control systems. The Nav Radar was able to guide the plane to the target via using a little joystick to designate where he wanted the aircraft to go and the plane would use a fly by wire control system to then fly to the point and the bomb load would be dropped Some Vulcans had modified bomb bays (The one I work on is one of these examples) which were used to carry the Blue Steel nuclear missile. These Vulcans were then later fitted with conventional bomb bays and most went into the low altitude role The low altitude Vulcans have a terrain following radar on the nose of the aeroplane. It can be seen as a bump sticking out of the nose. The crew could select the altitude for the jet to fly at and it would keep that altitude over the terrain. The Vulcan was also often used as a training target for fighter pilots to try and hit. I know a Vulcan pilot who did over 27000 hours on Vulcans. A fighter jet was never able to get a shot off in a training scenario on the Vulcan he was flying. It was that agile

[@rcormie]

Hi Sarah, lovely to watch this again. The reason the Vulcan was sent to the Falklands was that the UK at scrapped their large proper aircraft carriers in the late 1970 and opted for smaller ships which flew the harrier jump jets. These were vertical take off and land and therefore did not need a large Aircraft carrier. The Ark Royal being one of the last great aircraft carriers the Royal Navy had. Of course if these large aircraft carriers had remained in service, the other RAF bomber was the Blackburn Buccaneer. Had it been able to get to the Falkland’s, the war would have been over in days.

[@raysantiago3750]

I was able to see the Vulcan ROYAL AIR FORCE United Kingdom 🇬🇧 in SoCal USA 🇺🇸 landing and take off. I couldn't even if it was crashing or taking off in the summer of 1976 Norton Air Force Base. She was beautiful and futuristic like RODAM vs. GONZILLA in a Japanese movie. 🎬 God bless our friends in the UNITED KINGDOM. 🇬🇧 🙏 ❤✝️🛐 Camouflaged to blend into the lower bombing missions in Southeast Asia or worldwide. We are family UK.WE❤LOVE YOU! Go Army! 🪖🗡⚔️🛡🏹 🪂🪂🪂🪂.....🛩 🏜 ❤️ Love Margaret Thatcher and the British, too! Vulcan had to fly thousands of miles and return home. Incredible story you need to see. Real heroes!

[@25dimensionsfrancis42]

The Russians eventually devoloped ground to air missile that made high altitude attacks redundant and the Vulcan practiced low level attacks hence the camouflage.

[@paznewis107]

Cammo on top, viewed from above, sky tone underneath viewed from the ground

[@timboskydog01]

U2 spy plane shot down so they went low level.

[@shaggybaggums]

"I don't think I recall seeing a plane that looked like that before." See? It works.

[@chugachuga9242]

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the camo schemes on planes are usually to make it blend in with the surrounding terrain rather then the sky.

[@alanhargreaves1278]

Using the Vulcan showed the Argentinians a nuclear capable bomber could reach them, they being a non-nuclear armed country. The red planes are the red arrows display team

[@Rschaltegger]

The only thing is a) SSBN`s were deemed the sole nuclear deterrent for the UK b) were retired right before the Falkland wars. Operation Black Buck was a single event. Not a campaign and it barely reached Stanley

[@sirderam1]

There was never any intention of Britain using nuclear weapons against Argentina. It would have been utterly disproportionate.

[@wembleyford]

Nuclear bomber??? We did have polaris submarines patroling the Atlantic. The RAF was, frankly, irrelevant in the Falklands war - all the significant aerial combat was done by the navy.

[@barryhumphries4514]

The point was, that the RAF could have attacked mainland Argentina at extreme range if necessary. They were the longest range bombing missions in history at the time. There were no longer range aircraft in the UK inventory at that time or even now. Submarines have taken over in that regard.

[@Rschaltegger]

@@barryhumphries4514 no. Did you not listen? There was no need and more important it barly got to the falklands

[@davidchapman7904]

The Uk had aircraft om standby in Germany , the same with 4min warnings as well, These were usually Canberra Bombers and they probably saw more active service world wide as the were also used in Vietnam by the Aussies

[@siwc]

The camo pattern (and later the plain hemp colour) was to camouflage the aircraft while it was on the ground at its airbase. The hemp colour was to blend in with the concrete hard standings. They were still easy to spot when parked by the enemy because of the shadow they’d cast.

[@charlie44266]

The similar delta-wing bombers from the same time period and mission were: 1. Desault (pronounce deh-so) Mirage IV in France kzbin.info/www/bejne/in7Gd4quhtakf68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4nPp52MgtGlpMU 2. Convair B-58 Hustler in USA kzbin.info/www/bejne/bny9lml9nLuFrtk

[@shanenolan8252]

Falklands is a fascinating story in full . I remember it on TV I was very young but I remember the news and daily updates on the BBC

[@vinnyganzano1930]

I was 16 when Argentina invaded, two years later I left school and joined the army.

[@AlanEvans789]

@@vinnyganzano1930 I was 17 at the time, and then joined the RAF at the end of 83.

[@billattercliffe8655]

The music is "Land of Hope and Glory", Britains's second national anthem. Like so many other things, appropriated by the U.S.

[@charlestaylor3027]

Showing a nuclear bomber could hit the Falklands showed it could hit Argentina too.

[@chrisredding6673]

Errr ... No. The international rules of war forbid the use of nuclear weapons against an enemy which does not have them. There was never any question of using them against Argentina.

[@charlestaylor3027]

@@chrisredding6673 that's nonsense the only time nuclear weapons were used was against a country that didn't have them.

[@Oxley016]

@@chrisredding6673 I didn't know they dropped a nuke on Stanley?

[@baylessnow]

@@chrisredding6673 He said nuclear bomber (the plane) not nuclear bomb.

[@donkmeister]

@@chrisredding6673 Which international rules of war forbid the use of nuclear weapons against an enemy without them? Which convention? I've not come across such a rule so would be interested to know where you saw it.

[@rednaughtstudios]

In terms of what else did the UK have that could put bombs on Port Stanley runway, there is book by the commanding officer of the Sea Harrier squadron on HMS Invincible in 1982 in which he describes how it would have been possible for several Sea Harriers from the Task Force to drop the same amount of bombs on the runway and it would have used only a fraction of the fuel that the Vulcan did. Sea Harrier Over the Falklands by Sharkey Ward. Having said that though the Sea Harriers were needed for the Task Force's air defence and were in short supply so risking them on a bombing mission may not have been wise. And the other thing is it's also possible to put a nuke on the Vulcan and if it can reach Port Stanley it can reach mainland Argentina. This of course would have been a massive escalation but none the less a useful deterrent to force the Argentinians to keep some of their Mirage Jets on air defence duties in Argentina.

[@alansmith2197]

I can recommend you looking into another special aircraft we had at that time - the English Electric Lightening. I was an airframe technician working on these aircraft back in the early 1970s. Way ahead of its time!

[@anoldfogeysfun]

Sorry for the year long wait for this comment, SC - but I only just watched your Spitfire Part 1, which showed this video at the end of it --- As you will have seen while watching this video yourself? Our older piston engine Bombers from WW2 were basically developed for that era, which was why the Air Ministry put out the plan for a new breed of Bombers with new abilities . . . travel further, higher ceiling, etc, but none with guns this time. This also decreased the weight of armour and guns being required to make them faster as well. So the 3 types of V Bombers literally took over the reins from all of the other bombers that we once had. (Only one of the V Bomber still having propellers). And the Air Ministry stipulated that any new Bomber should be able to carry either a nuclear bomb, or that of a conventional bomb load. So those 3 "V's" became our last Bombers until they all finally went out of service. Now you have the nuclear subs with the same nuclear options (but which can carry far more) - so no new Bombers have been designed since they came into service. The nearest we have are the transport or refuelling planes to use . . . As for being in the Cold War alongside the US with our own Bombers - we were your main stepping stone between the US and Russia for you - I don't think any of the other NATO countries had any nuclear Bombers to use. So we were not only protecting ourselves back then, but also keeping the door open for yours to land and refuel away from continental Europe, who were also much closer to Russia . . . Luckily for us here, we still have our Nuclear Subs with their deterrent, too, though - more so the way Putin and his lackey keep on saying that they'll wipe the UK off the map in minutes for supporting Ukraine. It's just a shame that they think we'll just sit there and take that - and don't realise that we'll return the favour back by hitting Moscow and a few other cities of theirs in response to that . . . !!!! (Commy countries all have one-track minds and do not think they can lose - or that anyone would want stand up to them - likely why they still have tyrants in charge and their own people have so little choice in anything.)

[@jpgale]

Pomp and circumstance march no 5 is the US graduation song (really hard for me not to sign land of hope and glory at the top of my lungs at a graduation) technically Land of hope and glory is a different tune based on pomp and circumstance as an extra note was added to make land of hope and glory which Elgar hated (or so I was taught in school). This is the tune that the majority of brits feel should be the national anthem if not god save the queen/king. It is the English victory song at the commonwealth games. Land of hope and glory is as patriotic as Rule Britannia. It is not the only British tune the US has repurposed, I am led to believe that the tune to God save the queen/king is used and of course the US national anthem is set to a british drinking song.

[@donaldcrawford5577]

What or who, is just hearsay, Every time brits hear it, it makes us stop and think of Englands green and pleasant land. A unique tune. Elgar, our best composer.

[@aardvaark11]

I grew up with this aircraft as my father was a corporal airframes/engine technician working with these beauties. Ironically in 1986 i was doing my aircrew training at RAF Finningley the no.2 gate guard, a Vulcan, sat in the back garden of my house. Each morning i opened my curtains reminding me of the history and responsibility to keep it's high standards of the RAF. I was so privileged.

[@georgebarnes8163]

there was not a single Black Buck mission, there was a total of seven missions with different targets.

[@Beautifultruthofficial]

WE SHOULD GET THAT VICTOR IN THE SKY. THE ONE THAT ACCIDENTALLY TOOK OFF IN 09. APPARENTLY, IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE FOR A REFIT. #BLACKBUCK1 #VIRAL

[@johnnystrat]

The Vulcan had that rare ability to put goose bumps on top of goose bumps. That unearthly howl - awesome and unforgettable.

[@darrenreslis594]

We sent a nuclear bomber to the Falklands to drop conventional bombs. The Argentinian mainland was about the same distance. I am sure that the psychology was not lost on the Argentinians.

[@thatsbigdave]

I live just across from woodford or should i say what is left of woodford. XM603 is the anti flash white paint. My grandad and uncle worked at woodford on the Nimrods and vulcans, my grandad would tell me that when they tested the engines the stuff in the house etc would shake and vibrate, and when they tested the flight of the vulcan it flew over the building's where it was built and it smashed all the window's in the roof

[@boli2746]

We only had one choice, we did it; and proved we could do it again.

[@grinningpinhead3961]

I'm a bit of a vulcan fan (obviously) and ive been in them three times in museums and it amazed me each time. The cockpit is incredibly small for such a big bird because they were originally designed for just one pilot before deciding put in another seat. And when you sit in there you soon get a sense of what it must have been like rushing up the two sets of ladders and squeezing through the 19cm gap between the seats with all your flight gear on then getting airbourne without smashing your head into something. And all in less than four minutes! But even with everything cold and shut down you can still sense the power. Push the throttles forward and when you look round to see the massive wing over your shoulder it's easy to imagine that howl resonating through the plane.

[@Scoobydcs]

The vulcan and victor still look like spaceships even though theyre 70 years old!

[@dashcam26]

And the Valiant....

[@comfeycushion7944]

The Victor has to be the most sinister looking aircraft,i have happy memories of watching them do circuits and bumps at Marham in the late 60s when my dad was stationed there

[@adrianking8538]

Growing up in the eighties all I can remember was the deafening roar off the Vulcan, no other plane has the sound it is so unique

[@craniusdominus8234]

13:43 The music referenced here is Chariots of Fire by Vangelis, which was actually written for a 1981 Academy Award winning movie, also called Chariots of Fire.

[@peter-h8s2z]

Our original V Bombers were painted white with muted markings. This was to reflect the flash from an atomic bomb explosion if they dropped one. The cockpit also had curtians to protect the crews eyes from the same flash. After the Cold War calmed down they were given camo like most of the RAF aircraft as they were not expected to drop nuclear weapons by this time.

[@jasonsmith666]

Always have an emotional response when I see that plane. It's such a beautiful object but also thy flew over my house as a child, filling me with cold war anxiety.

[@gilbertmoyes2918]

A full description of Operation Black Buck can be found on youtube at :- kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJSomY1opZmmb9E One small grip I have with Captain Joe, his description, england. It was the United Kindom, Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland and england. Not england on its own.

[@paulrallyfan417]

It was the longest bombing raid in history at the time - 16,000 mile round trip.

[@markkeyworth]

And all over water.

[@timgosling6189]

'Only' 4000 miles each way. I know, I did it often enough!

[@mickenoss]

One of the Vulcans nicknames was the Camoflage Concorde. It used the same engines and same wing geometry (shortened obv) as the Concorde we all know and love. I imagine the camoflage came in handy as they were known to fly at very low altitudes for prolonged stints.

[@gazza7uk646]

They are the RAF display team, world class the Red Arrows,they do many shows in the US

[@vinnyganzano1930]

Well someone has to show the Americans how it's done😉🇬🇧

[@Nutty31313]

The camouflage was for low altitude to camouflage into the ground from above. It was common for many aircraft during and just after WW2, including most British aircraft.

[@nickshale6926]

The music at 2:31 is ‘Land of Hope and Glory’ by the English composer Edward Elgar. Where ‘God Save the Queen’ is the British national anthem, Elgar’s ‘Land of Hope and Glory’ is regarded an the unofficial English national anthem.

[@nickshale6926]

@Mister Jorrox some would disagree.

[@vinnyganzano1930]

Unless it's the Rugby when it's Swing Low Sweet Chariot or the Football when it's Vindaloo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@colibri67]

Dear SoGal, as an ex military pilot I'd like to quote our American cousins who often refer to such sounds as the Vulcan howl as the sound of FREEDOM. The younger generations perhaps don't realise that freedom comes at an immense cost.

[@johnboy9386]

It was also used in a James Bond movie, "Thunderball"

[@NigelJudson]

There's a Vulcan on static display at a museum about a mile away from where I live. Last time I was there I got to go inside the cockpit. Couldn't believe how cramped it all was considering the size of the aircraft.