American Reacts to the Most EVIL Canadians in History

[@PaulGreening]

We also had 23 people murdered a couple years ago in nova scotia by a guy dressed as an rcmp officer

[@NotLeftarded1]

Yes while my fellow maritimers were burnt to death in their homes defenseless because my fellow Canadians are cowards who are scared of things that make noise.

[@terrancebrown87]

@@NotLeftarded1 the same people you’re talking about I think are the same people who slow down when they drive in the rain

[@Wishes890]

​@@NotLeftarded1what are you talking about

[@Balognamanforya]

@@Wishes890 our government keeps banning more and more guns because both liberals and conservatives love using guns as a way of scaring ignorant people into voting for them, even though less than 3% of gun crimes happen with registered fire arms, the other 97% are smuggled from the US or illegally manufactured, but the government doesn't care, meaning more people become defenseless as a result, and criminals have a easier time killing and robbing people who are defenseless. or as wishIcouldtemplaragain was saying "they're scared of things that make a loud noise" the current banning of guns, bill C-21 is one of the craziest bans we've had so far, including but not limited to bird shot shotguns, and even single shot rifles (rifles that must be reloaded after every shot)

[@NotLeftarded1]

@@Wishes890 What I said is quite clear you don't get it because you don't want to. Probably just another red orange or green voter with his fingers in his ears going lalalalala. Where are the white supremacists who have never approached me once in my 45 years of Canadian experience? Is Google images racist too when I look up Canada the current year and wanted for murder? How about the bolo program top 25 only four of them are people born and raised here traditionally? All the anti-Semitism that's going on right now it's not really european-looking people doing it now is it? I know the truth is hard for people like you and facts are racist right? Let's keep ignoring europhobia and the hatred of Canada's and America's European born and raised populations.

[@pcoleman1971]

Tyler, you're not alone in doubting that Karla Homolka was coerced. She got a favourable plea deal when the evidence against Bernardo and her was limited. Yet, in hindsight, most people believe she deserved life in prison, same as Bernardo.

[@kflowersmith]

She definitely deserved life sentences, but the tapes showing her willing involvement in the murders were not located until after the deal with her had been done.

[@kenludlow7391]

Yeah, they taped their crimes but the deal was struck for her testimony before the tapes were found by police. It's truly sad that before the murders, police had taken a DNA sample from Bernardo because tips from the sketch of the Scarborough rapist said it was him. But DNA was new and took a very long time to process at the time. Bernardo presented so innocently to police that they considered his sample as a low priority for testing.

[@theguest4516]

She was definitely a willing participant. You forgot to mention she got pregnant in jail by a child molester and her a child molester. She is married with 3 kids. With a changed name. Oh! Paul never murdered anyone till he was with Karla. That says alot, IMO. So disgusting.

[@Grifter_Reacts]

She got 6 years or something like that, she was then under police protection, got her name changed and it was rumored she was living in Châteaugay, a town close to Montreal but I didn't care enough to confirm or deny it.

[@msopinion4717]

I recall her lawyer had the tapes he said he didnt know what was on them and fifnt turn them over until her deal was done@@kflowersmith

[@bluebird1239]

On April 18 & 19/2020, 51 year old Gabriel Wortman committed multiple shootings and set fires at 16 locations in Nova Scotia, killing 22 people and injuring three others before being shot and killed by the RCMP. During these crimes, Wortman drove a replica RCMP cruiser and wore a replica RCMP uniform, which probably made vulnerable victims unaware of the threat on their lives, possibly thinking that Wortman was an actual RCMP officer.

[@jeremydyck2601]

Brenardo is a serial rapist, but because they can't say that on the video they just say "assult". If I remember right, he claimed over EIGHTY total victims. The thing that angers me beyond words is he was recently moved to a medium security prison for "good behavior". edit: I forgot to say, they moved him without telling anybody that they were doing it, including his victims families.

[@kflowersmith]

"The Scarborough Rapist"

[@Jayne-f4y]

Omg!!!! Wtf Canada??????

[@power50001562]

@@Jayne-f4y no one in the Canadian public likes the lower security prison move especially since there has been escapes in the one he was moved to. People like even less that Karla Homolka is free like she didn't help him commit his crimes, even to her own sister.

[@LetItBeSummer-1]

Agree. It’s sickening.

[@Lakeshore14]

Disgusting that he was moved to minimum security.

[@carlenefletcher3425]

Tyler you should really read more about a few of these events. They are a lot more horrific than this video could cover.

[@breakfast_with_spliffany]

PB and KH will forever make my stomach turn and make me lightheaded. They literally altered everything with the horrific things they did. And she is just out there living her best life now.

[@bettyrose1347]

She’s a gross human. Worst plea deal in Canadian history.

[@TotensBurntCorpse]

she has kids and a government provided university education... she even volunteers at her kids school...

[@breakfast_with_spliffany]

@@TotensBurntCorpse right?! Absolutely disgusting. Like she didn’t r and torture and then k her sister and cut her up. Wtaf man. The details in their little horror adventures will forever be burned into my brain.

[@bobbi3254]

They used to come to a certain bar in my city and try to pick up women.

[@ronniwright8315]

I don’t know how she is still alive

[@vivianblack2951]

A side note to the PIcton case: Kim Rossmo had just finished his PhD on geographic profiling and at the time was working on the 'Missing Women' case. He pioneered a computer program showing where the suspect was most likely to live. The city police thought it was a bunch of hoo-hah and basically drummed him out of the dept. Rossmo is now a professor at Texas State U. and consults with many US and Canadian law enforcement agencies.

[@mariearrington3591]

We told the VPD who this man was and where his pig farm was, they totally ignored us. When we had gone to the police only about 20 women had gone missing. By the time he was caught he had murdered 60. I hate the police

[@JunkBondTrader]

Weird, quick story: My late father, a land developer in BC, and his partner helped Pickton sell sections of his farm. He even had a beer with him. Said he was very much a hillbilly type, but seemed relatively normal.

[@brikhouse22]

I lived 5 mins from him

[@GweezleGirl]

I’ve heard of that! They used geographic profiling for the pilot episode of the show “Numb3rs”. That is so cool!

[@truet6400]

Geez 😮 you speaking about Bernardo and Holmoka was so cringe 😬. I was around during all that, he was 'The Scarborough Rapist ' (not mere assaults) and terrorized all the women of Toronto. As for Karla there are many videos this pair made filming their torture, rape, degradation and murder of the 3 girls (which included Karla's own younger sister) which she was very much an interested and willing participant. Including cutting up the dead teenagers and putting their body pieces into concrete blocks to throw in Lake Ontario. This was all such a horrifying story with horrifying people and no matter the time that passes it is still as raw to me as it was then.

[@bettyrose1347]

I suggest the Casual Criminalist episode on Paul and Karla. She loved the torture and killing just as much as him but used her sweet girl look to get the worst plea deal in Canadian history. I hope the people who had to listed to tapes got lifetime therapy.

[@AmandaZuke]

Yes! I’d like to second this motion! Casual Criminalist’s coverage goes a lot deeper than the little bit on Bernardo and Homolka here. It’s sickening. And for the record, before the murders, he was known as the Scarborough Rapist.

[@marilynsheppard2063]

Bernardo was also known as the Scarborough rapist. He started murdering them after he and Carla got together. They were a married couple. It would seem most Canadians think she is just as guilty as him. And were not pleased she was given the plea deal she got. She handed her younger sister Tammy over to her husband Paul Bernardo. Carla drugged her. It is sick that she got so little time. He didn’t start killing until him and Carla got together. She is now out of prison, has changed her appearance, Her name and is now remarried with children. Something those teen girls they killed will never be able to do. Trudeau has allowed Bernardo to be transferred to a medium security prison which means he could end up getting out. Most Canadians are outraged by this.

[@JungleScene]

It's amazing how many gruesome details they left out of the video for the sake of brevity. Most of these cases were even more horrific than they lead you to believe.

[@femalism1715]

Dustin Paxton, the torturer, was left out. W-5 produced a documentary about him and Col. Williams in the SAME episode.

[@sandrajewitt6050]

Bernardo's crimes were more horrific than the video explained. He kidnapped 2 teenagers, tortured them for a few days, and then killed and dismembered them for easier disposal.

[@alanhyland5697]

Don't forget that Karla was right in on it.

[@louisejohnson6057]

She helped him to hurt these girls, one of whom was her own sister. How do two such horrible people find each other and then discover that they're both such deviants?

[@Salicat99]

Not to mention he was the Scarborough Rapist.

[@Jayne-f4y]

Don't forget Karla "gave" her little sister to him as a Christmas present. On Xmas Eve they drugged her and Paul raped her and Karla even took a turn!!!!!! She overdosed and died. In her own house on Xmas eve by her own sister. Sweet Jesus, it doesn't get any worse than that. This bit#h is now married and living in Montreal with her own children!!!! Canadian justice???

[@johnp5990]

@@louisejohnson6057 Allegedly, Bernardo was a physical threat to her, but she psychologically abused and controlled him. I've also heard that at the last minute he wanted to back out of killing her sister, but she coerced him to go through with it.

[@hockeyfreakofnature]

Even worse than Karla Homolka being free is that fact that she married her lawyer's brother, had a few kids, and was allowed to keep custody of them.

[@htmc2022]

Yes - Where is children’s Aid? If ever a child needed saving from its mother!

[@gilliesiut2332]

My friend lives in Karla’s old house. Bernardo was also known as the Scarborough rapist

[@koru9780]

I am old enough to remember some of these atrocities. Thankfully what has become commonplace in the US is still relatively uncommon Canada. Evil is everywhere Tyler.

[@jennifersmith3245]

There is so MUCH more HORROR to the robert pickton story that is mind boggling. I was friends with one of his victims brother and was at his house when the cops showed up to tell the family that some of his missing sisters belongings were found on the pickton farm. This guy targeted drug addicts from east side Vancouver, In one of the documentarys about him, apparently he didn't just feed his victims to his pigs he also got rid of remains at some meat plant where they believe that some of the remains ended up mixed in with other meat and sent off to grocery stores. It sounds completely unbelievable, is just sad and shocking

[@candicelance4521]

Yep. This story haunts my childhood

[@michellem3050]

I didn't eat pork for years after learning what happened to his victims - I live in the region. Still horrifies me thinking about all of it.

[@mariearrington3591]

No it did not end up in grocery stores, the body parts ended up in rendering plants. I worked as an organizer with the women on the street. He murdered many women and most of his targets were sex workers. I knew many of the women. The most horrid part of this is that the police were told about Picton and the pig farm but since the women were sex workers they paid no attention. We blame the police for how long this went on, both the VPD and the RCMP. This man was a monster

[@brikhouse22]

I lived 5 mins from him

[@marcelleoreilly7719]

@@michellem3050I still don’t eat pork for this reason.

[@dbadilotti]

Remember, historically Divorce was not easy in Canada until the late 60's.

[@lochthefox6397]

They even mentioned Robert Pickton on an episode of CSI. Two more that you can look up are Mark Twitchell and Bruce McArthur (Toronto Landscape Killer).

[@TheresaBroszkowski]

The murder of Reena Virk by teenagers in the late 90s was sickening.

[@marysedattore308]

Karla Homolka wasn't coerced. She actively participated in the rapes and murders. She testified against him to save herself. She got 12 years instead of life in prison. So yeah, she eventually got out.

[@elainehills1488]

Bernardo lived in the city I live in and when he was caught, after all the evidence was retrieved , they destroyed the house that he and his wife Karla lived in. People in the city were freaked out until he was finally caught. There is a memorial trail for Kristen French, one of his victims.

[@Jayne-f4y]

My step brother worked with Doug French. I don't know how any parent goes on after something like that.😢

[@terryomalley1974]

Hi Elaine. I no longer live in St. Catharines, but grew up there and was changing classes at Brock when I came across the Toronto Sun headline saying they'd finally caught Bernardo. St. Kitts was never the same after that day in '93.

[@htmc2022]

The cops had him early on - he had a Gold car similar to description of car which witnesses saw Kristen stop & talk to - he charmed the cops away! When will people understand that psychopaths are extremely charming and affable - never nervous with police because they have zero conscience!

[@andreevaillancourt2177]

Paul Bernardo went to the same Collegiate Institute that I had graduated from, about two or so years behind me. I was off at University in another city when he was running around at night, terrorizing my old neighbourhood. He was known as, before he hooked up with Carla, "the Scarborough Rapist". Quite the claim to fame for your hometown I must say. Our other nickname was Scarberia because of how far away we were from downtown Toronto. Took forever to get anywhere by public transit, especially at night. It was actually because of the "Scarborough Rapist" that the TTC allowed their drivers to drop women closer to their destinations, than the usual bus and streetcar stops after dark and to be sure that no stranger men would be getting off the vehicle at the same time and following any woman home. The transit commission still has this policy today. Thank heavens for small mercies I suppose.

[@babblingbrookesmith]

If you want background Tyler, there is a pod cast called Canadian true crime, all the cases you reference are covered in various episodes. Tough listens but very informative and well done.

[@djyanno]

About the Bernardo/Homolka couple. The prosecutors struck a deal with Homolka for a lesser sentence. Soon after they discovered video tapes of the assaults discovering that she was a willing participant and enjoying it. But the deal was made and they could not backtrack. So yeah she got out easy for the horrors she caused.

[@livebassngames]

thanks for explaining. There was so much outrage about Karla when I was young, not as much for Paul since he had a more appropriate sentence

[@barb_ec4436]

Actually her lawyer had the tapes the entire time and only turned them over to the authorities after she got the "sweetheart deal". Had the tapes been produced during the discovery process, she would have gotten a life sentence as well. Her lawyer knew that and should have received some sort of punishment for hiding crime evidence.

[@OntarioAtOrion]

​@barb_ec4436 it was actually Paul's lawyer who hid the tapes. The lawyer was charged for it too. The plea was about Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy. They had publicly signed a plea deal with her before Paul's lawyer handed over the tapes.

[@nono86753]

@@barb_ec4436she married her lawyer’s brother… Not sure if it’s the same lawyer though.

[@andreevaillancourt2177]

Well, isn't that cosy.

[@cathyriedl7950]

Law and Oder did a story based on Bernardo and Halmolka. Criminal Minds did one based on the pig farm.

[@anitasmith203]

Thought Russell Johnson would have been on the list. The Bedroom Strangler scaled appartment balconies killing 7 different women. His last victim was my cousin Donna Veldboom in Aug.1977.

[@kflowersmith]

I used to work for the Parole Board. We would never refer to victims as his or her victims as this gives the perpetrator ownership over them. Instead, they are always referred to as "the" victim(s).

[@anitasmith203]

Makes perfect sense. And that bastard is still alive today, hope he doesnt read my comment, trying to get placed in mimimum security facility. He outlived her parents who had to fight to keep him from getting parole every other year.

[@kflowersmith]

@@anitasmith203 How long is his sentence?

[@andreevaillancourt2177]

I remember this. I was just finishing up highschool at the time. I remember being grateful that we lived on the sixteenth floor. Scary.

[@anitasmith203]

​@@kflowersmithHe received the max which is 25 years and he was declared insane by the court, so after his 25 yrs in 1992 he began requesting parole, which caused the victims' families to join him every time to ask the parole board to keep him where he belonged, Penetanguishene Penitentary. Since 2010 he began asking to be moved to a minimum facility in Brockville, Ontario a psychiatric hospital. He was 62 at the time he requested the transfer and l do not know if he ever succeeded. There is an article in The Star, Saturday May 15, 2010 page8 SectionA that may be available on line, l have the newspaper clipping from that time.

[@bluebird1239]

On Sept. 4, 2022, Myles Sanderson killed 11 and injured 18 people in a mass stabbing at 13 locations on the James Smith Cree Nation and in Weldon, Saskatchewan. Some of the victims are believed to have been targeted, while others were randomly attacked.

[@janewilson1311]

The death penalty was abolished in Canada in 1963. I used to have my own tv show in Victoria in the 80's, and attracted a certain number of fans. One dropped by the TV station unannounced one day. He was very big - at least 6'5" and aged somewhere in his 70's. He made me very uncomfortable, kept moving closer and closer until I was backed up against the wall and chose to escape. I told my boyfriend who was chief of staff to the province's Attorney General, and had lots of contacts with the RCMP. Long story short he was a murderer who had been sentenced to death, but after the death penalty was commuted, and 20 or so years afterward he was placed on lifetime parole, spent his days watching tv, and thought I was a nice lady. The be and I met up with his parole officer who assured us the RCMP were involved and he would be under even closer observation for the rest of his life. The boyfriend never told me who he murdered, or how, saying I wouldn't want to know...

[@yanickbelanger8951]

1976

[@janewilson1311]

@@yanickbelanger8951 I looked it up and it said 1963, but I realize now it was referring to the end of the Death Penalty - of which the last were performed in December of 1962.

[@markmiller4609]

The death penalty in Canada was abolished on December 10, 1998. On that date, all remaining references to the death penalty were removed from the National Defence Act - the only section of the law that, since 1976, still provided for execution under the law. Despite that, the last executions in Canada were made under the Criminal Code in 1962 when Ronald Turpin and Arthur Lucas were hanged at Toronto’s Don Jail. The last time the Canadian military had a legal execution was in 1945, when Harold Pringle was shot at dawn in Italy.

[@gilliesiut2332]

A 20 year old kid in my city in Ontario was just arrested for murder last month. He was on bail for murdering someone 6 months earlier and that murder was committed while he was on probation for shooting someone else and not killing them. Our justice system is broken

[@MarinaMiniatures]

​@@gilliesiut2332what city?

[@heidibrenner6106]

My favourite, most humorous, quote from TVs Criminal Minds is said by Penelope; “Those Canadians, when they go bad, they go Darth Vader bad.”

[@michellestruik8069]

I have to believe I have lead a charmed life. When I was around 19 Clifford Olson broke into the house next to our family home, our german shepards heard him and jumped the fence and one of them actually bit him. During his plea deal the RCMP visited us to confirm this information, he was going to kidnap and murder our neighbours daughter who was 2 years younger than me. Then years later I was working for a mobile television crew in Port Coquitlam, our producer knew Pickton who would visit our mobile all the time. That man sat next to me several times when we were taking breaks in our mobile. So I must have horseshoes up my butt, I wonder how close I came to being killed.

[@Jayne-f4y]

Yikes!!!! You must be here for a reason.❤

[@donnyl3336]

Chilling.

[@jeannieschmidt2217]

That's absolutely horrifying - and so chilling to read about.

[@yvonnecook8635]

Jesus….thats crazy. Glad you’re still here

[@judithguertin7646]

FYI. Life sentence is 25 years in Canada, with some exception like Paul Bernardo and Robert Pickton.

[@murraytown4]

I think this was a reaction long overdue. We often like to think of Canada as the land of milk and honey and unicorns and rainbows. It is not. Being of a certain age, I remember all of these (except for the Guay bombing which was before my time). I grew up in BC during Clifford Olson. Some of these are so iconic that they are worth their own separate reaction. They (and others like them) must be exposed for what they are. Man’s inhumanity to man.

[@kiml1604]

They fail to mention the genocide by the Canadian government along with the Catholic Church and the Anglican Church. They had residential schools to solve the “Indian Problem” as they called it. Thousands of Children were forcibly taken from their homes and put in residential schools where they were forbidden from speaking their native language. They were tortured and many just went missing. Canada is now discovering many unmarked mass graves at these “schools” with hundreds of dead kids. These schools ran until 1991 in some parts. They destroyed many generations of indigineous people

[@RobwLPOC]

Clifford Olsen was the one case that even people who were strongly against the death penalty were suggesting it for him. On a weird side note as a member of Richmond Legion Hall for years, I drank beer and smoked joints many times with Dennis Olsen, Clifford's brother. Dennis was actually a good guy. My parents and I knew him for about 2 years before he felt he knew us well enough to tell us. For obvious reasons, he kept it pretty damn quiet

[@jessicamacvicar2170]

The deal that was struck with Homolka is now studied extensively in Canadian law schools because it is consistently referrred to as, 'the deal with the devil' by most legal scholars.

[@sherripapke9990]

As a Canadian, I’m discouraged by our lack of tough sentencing for crimes. Just so you know, life in prison does not mean your whole life. It means 25 years and only a few get life with no chance of parole. You only have to serve 1/3 of your sentence before you can apply for parole. I think the we need to get tougher on crime here!

[@personincognito3989]

This is disgusting and it is the truth. We suck for sentencing due to outdated criminal codes.

[@fuzzwork]

Life does mean life. There is no guarantee you'll get parole after 25 years. You still have to apply for it and be approved by the parole board, and nobody with a life sentence ever gets automatically released. Constitutionally, life without parole would be cruel and unusual punishment under section 12 of the Charter. Even if it wasn't, when you take away a convict's hope of ever getting out and you take away any incentive for him to behave while in prison. Would you want that work environment for a family member who is a corrections officer? I wouldn't.

[@kmacgregor6361]

Getting "tougher on crime" doesn't reduce crime. In the case of people like serial killers who can't be rehabilitated and will never not pose a threat to society, yes, life in prison makes sense, and generally that's what they get. (25 years is when they are able to apply for parole - but it's certainly not guaranteed that they'll get parole. E.g. Paul Bernardo, he's been designated a dangerous offender and will never make parole.) But for other less serious crimes (not involving psychopathy) where the sentence is something less than life, then longer prison sentences are only helpful if that extended time will help to ensure the perpetrator doesn't commit crimes after they're released - e.g. that time is used for rehabilitation, education, skills training, etc. Ultimately, who cares about the criminals - we should worry about what is best for victims, i.e. reducing the incidence of crimes committed. And spending more time in prison in the company only of other criminals and getting more and more cut off from the world is not necessarily the best means of making sure someone can function well in society after release. So if looking out for victims and preventing crimes instead means criminals don't get "punished enough" I'm OK with that. We shouldn't make more victims suffer just so we can say criminals got adequately "punished".

[@JunkBondTrader]

The counter to that, is we have arguably the most lax legal system in the world, and don't punish victimless crimes very harshly at all. The opposite of oppressing. But yeah it obviously has it's drawbacks. Personally I like the way it is. If I could change it, I would for sure make harsher sentencing for violent crimes and less propensity for accepting insanity pleas.

[@jo-lynnhodgson6363]

Dangerous Offender Status which is a designation by the courts which enables life in prison, no parole.

[@SweetTooth8989]

Russell Williams' interrogation is also pretty popular amongst true crime lovers (myself included) because the interrogator was really skilled and good at extracting information. His pictures of him wearing these poor women's clothes are also online forever for everybody to see now 😂 which is just the cherry on top of him getting caught 😂

[@DaveGIS123]

One of Russell Williams victims was one of his own soldiers, Corporal Marie-France Comeau. Williams was Commanding Officer of CFB Trenton and got regular updates from the MPs on how the murder investigation was going --- the investigation into his own crime!

[@eileensakal987]

It is used as a way of teaching interrogators

[@gingerkid1048]

Because Madoc OPP was useless & didn’t really care to investigate the weird break ins. Source: lived in the area then know his victims he lived down the street from friend.

[@peterzimmer9549]

The death penalty was abolished in Canada in January 1963. A double hanging at Toronto’s Don Jail in 1962 was the last death penalty execution.

[@suzannebadger8135]

I like your haircut Tyler! As a Canadian it is horrifying what some people will do.

[@emerybonner7973]

There are many Canadians who do not know the story about Air India flight 182. I believe it has to do with the fact that the disaster did not occur in Canadian airspace. The plane went down in the Atlantic Ocean, about 120 miles (190kms) offshore of County Cork, Ireland.

[@lindaostrom570]

lockerbie scotland

[@SueorSuzor]

@@lindaostrom570 No that was Pan Am flight 103 that exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland, on December 21, 1988, after a bomb was detonated

[@seastheday956]

My freind was a highly gov't trained engineer. He was hired to piece together the remaining parts of the plane in a secret location, some big warehouse/barn. It helped in the conviction case.

[@cathyriedl7950]

I believe it was covered on an episode of Mayday.

[@antoinenosotti2548]

My favourite teacher in high school was on that plane. He was going home to India to celebrate receiving his doctorate in physics. I will never forget what his loss meant to me and many of his students. RIP Nish Mukerji.

[@guarmiron5557]

I knew a guy from the OPP who was on the Bernardo investigation. No matter how evil you think Bernardo was . . . it was worse (stuff not told to the media . . .that poor jury). I'm a soldier who has seen mass graves and the stories of Bernardo's deeds shook me. They still do when I let myself think about them.

[@rickncam3]

Prior to divorce becoming legal in the 1960s, Canadians would have to petition Parliament to obtain a divorce and prove fault of one spouse in front of the entire Canadian population, which due to the process and humiliation was very rarely done.

[@Catstimesinfinity]

I didn't know this! And here these boomers keep giving people a hard time about divorcing more than the olden days when people had to stick it out... divorce can get a lot of people out of abusive/unhealthy situations

[@katnero-campbell6393]

I, unfottunately remember most of those killings, but during the Paul Bernardo and Karla (Homolka) Bernardo trial our media was not allowed to report on it. My 2nd cousin from Sweden came over for a visit and thought this media blackout was ridiculous, so did the Canadians.

[@ll7868]

Canada got Independence in 1967, before that the Head of State which was appointed by the British Crown and represented the voice of the Queen was in charge of Parliament, the HoS made the decision on divorces based on British Common Law called The Matrimonial Causes Act of 1857. Since Independence we've had an Governor General or Crown-In-Parliament who votes on behalf of the Crown and Parliament voted to make divorces legal across the country. What we need now is for Canada to break away from the Crown completely and become a Republic. Mary Simon, the current Governor General as well as the Premiers from all 10 Provinces need a unanimous vote which can be called by a sitting Prime Minister. NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh wants to do that, that's why he's got my vote. Edit - I said "Attorney General" twice instead of "Governor General". My bad. It's fixed now.

[@ll7868]

And by "prove fault in front of the entire Canadian population" means they had to have the divorce announced via a nationally distributed newspaper article as a matter of public record.

[@rickncam3]

1867@@ll7868

[@ccinn6452]

I remember vividly the international search for Luko and one thing that they left out of the video is that he dismembered his date and post video online of him with a fork and a knife ( I think) eating some parts of him. Than he disappeared and sent bag of the remains at government places . Imagine what the parents of the victim went through…

[@nono86753]

The video was called “1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick”

[@Shan_Dalamani]

One part was mailed to Prime Minister Harper. Another was mailed to an elementary school in BC.

[@ccinn6452]

@@Shan_Dalamani Yessss ! So sick …

[@laurakassama9092]

Government offices and schools.

[@reecejohnson7252]

He also sodomized the means body after he dismembered it. Such a sick person.

[@jeffreycairns767]

The Netflix series "You dont f*ck with cats" was about Luka Magnotta

[@aRedBaroness]

After Karla Homolka was convicted of manslaughter they found some recordings that proved that she was wayyyy more involved in the crimes committed by her husband, Bernardo aka the East Area rapist. So yeah. It's terrifying that she's free.

[@lisahood1389]

Clifford Olson was a name burned into my brain as a young teen from the Vancouver area. Until he was caught, I was always worried he was out there. And Pickton…. His farm was about 30 min from where I lived. Truly scary

[@RFLTools]

IMO Olson should have been higher on the list - involving children, to me, makes the crimes worse. I was just out of high school at the height of his crimes.

[@brikhouse22]

I grew up the same hearing about Olson. I lived 5 mins from Picton's farm

[@jasonfocht5472]

Homolka made a deal for a lesser sentence by providing the video evidence that made sure Bernardo went to prison. She was every bit a guilty as he was

[@eyden1562]

Robert Pickton was found and charged about 45 minutes from where I live, and it was all televised. I was taking Law 12 in highschool at the time so I was paying close attention to that case.

[@sandrajewitt6050]

I lived near the Ikea in Coquitlam at the time. Too close for comfort.

[@agentm83]

yeah, I remember being a teenager and hearing about the Robert Pickton case when I was growing up in BC.

[@brikhouse22]

I lived 5 mins away from his farm when he was doing all that, my mom still lives there.

[@Mistmantle88]

He was killed in prison a few months ago. The real killer was never charged and is still living his best life.

[@reimannsum9077]

The Karla Homolka case engendered untold amounts of outrage in Canada; initially, police and prosecutors accepted her story that she was coerced into assisting her partner. Only after a plea agreement was reached in exchange for her testimony did she unveil that she had been an active, willing, and gleeful participant in the most heinous crimes of sexual assault, torture, and murder alongside him. But the deal had been struck, and she received only minimal prison time.

[@gmc6790]

Pickton was also strongly connected to the Hells Angels. I'm not saying they played a part, but just putting that out there. Pig farms have been used as body dumps since at least the dark ages. Obviously not large commercial pig farms, but always be wary if you find a pig farm in a location that makes zero sense to be there.

[@mariearrington3591]

His brother lived on the farm with him, nobody can tell me he wasn’t involved, I believe he was involved so was his sister, but they were never charged

[@Mistmantle88]

@@mariearrington3591it’s widely known that Willie took the fall for his brother.

[@AmandaZuke]

The École Polytechnique massacre was formative for me - I was 13 and a baby feminist, and if anything, it solidified my commitment.

[@t.a.k.palfrey3882]

Other than for treason, the death penalty was abolished across Canada in 1963. The Defence Act was amended in 1998, so even the last vestage of the death penalty was abolished over 25 yrs ago. The last execution in Canada was 62 yrs ago.

[@Jayne-f4y]

Ok. That makes more sense. Thank you.

[@kelliadamswityk7164]

If you want to learn more about crimes committed in Canada see if you can watch the Fifth Estate that has done stories about crimes. More recently there was a serial killer discovered in Ontario who killed several men who are gay in Toronto. A young man was beheaded on a bus travelling with a bus load of passengers. A man who was released from a mental institution in BC got on a bus and beheaded a young man who had been sleeping in the bus that was headed to Manitoba. The man was sent to a mental health institution and later released with no provisions. More recently not a murder but the tragic death of the Humboldt Broncos hockey team and the death of a bus full of seniors after being hit in Manitoba. A lot of them were Ukrainian refugees. Very Sad. The bottom line is we have murders, serial killers, hate crimes...in Canada as well but in smaller numbers. There are a lot of gangs here in Canada that snuggle guns and are in all Canadian cities and a good number of rural towns that cause most of the murders that happen here. Most famous would be the man with mental health issues and Isis beliefs shot a soldier at the Canadian Parliament building and the Sargent of Arms shot and killed him because he was trying to get to the Prime Minister and MP's while in session.

[@Catstimesinfinity]

I like that you did a longer video. I'd say 25 to 35 mins is a good video legnth

[@kevindohn6776]

Just wanted to mention some connections regarding Paul Bernardo & Karla Homolka, there was a movie made about Karla, she was portrayed by the actress Laura Prepon who played Donna on that 70's show, and also another connection in the Rush song Nobody's hero, the second verse makes reference to one of the victims because it happened in the hometown of the drummer and lyricist Neil Peart, in St. Catherine's Ont. I didn't know the girl but I knew her family. All their lives were shattered in a nightmare of brutality. They tried to carry on, tried to bear the agony. They tried to hold some faith in the goodness of humanity.

[@Sloppatola]

There is much about these cases that that video couldn't do justice in such a timely manner or discuss without YT restrictions. The Air India case is particularly complicated today due to a recent high profile murder.

[@looneygardener]

Oh god Russell Williams lived in Trenton about 35 miles from my city. His confession is used to teach interrogation techniques. There was a fantastic american tv show all about the interview. Facinating.

[@debs11100]

Awesome video Tyler, you're kickin' it.

[@bertiesark]

sadly up here in Canada 15 years is considered a life sentence it is sickening

[@scootermcscoot479]

If u want a twisted story look up Greyhound bus killer in manitoba. The end is just as tragic as what the guy did to the person on the bus

[@awesometylerpossum]

Was going to bring up the same thing. Dude went through extensive psychiatric care and now he is walking among the public, which is super crazy.

[@kflowersmith]

That was a grisly case for sure, but in that case the perpetrator experienced a psychotic episode, unlike others on this list who killed for pleasure.

[@gingerkid1048]

@@awesometylerpossumas long as he’s monitored to always make sure he’s holding to his treatment plan & meds I don’t like it but I can accept it if that makes sense. He legit was out of his mind.

[@MrGeldhart]

Apparently he is 100% in compliance to the point he's no longer considered a risk.

[@brianjackson529]

Uggggghhhhh.... Elizabeth Wettlauffer was a nurse at a bunch of nursing homes in the town where I live. I can't tell you how much it shook us to our core when it came out what she had done. I actually have friends that worked at the same care homes at the same time as her. It really messed them up knowing they had worked with her.

[@sirdavidoftor3413]

Another serial murderer was Bruce McArthur in Toronto. He killed 8 men of Toronto’s LGBT2 community from 2010 to 2017. He was a landscaper at the time,and buried some of his victims dismembered parts in flower pots and gardens of his clients . He got life imprisonment with no chance of parole for 25 years, after pleading guilty to the eight counts. He was 66 at the time of his arrest, and is the oldest known serial killer in Canada. Stay safe, stay sane, stay strong Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@andreevaillancourt2177]

Yeah, didn't that guy grab immigrant men in the gay village. I mean for like two or three decades and the police wouldn't take any of the families seriously who were brave enough to report them missing? Because the police considered them a transient population and therefore not to be taken too seriously? 🤦🏽 I remember when he grabbed his last victim. His family put up missing posters, with their loved ones' photo on it. They were up on every telephone pole in my neighbourhood and I live at least three neighbourhoods east of where he was living. It was so deflating to find out that the poor man had met the same fate as the others. I had really been hoping that by some miracle that he would have been spared.

[@im14u2no]

Pickton case also involved a house on 108th Ave in Surrey. It was torn down and everything was dug up on the entire property. Drove past the place hundreds of times going to work, a few blocks away

[@donnastewart5922]

My niece was going to the college in Montreal where the shooting happened. She had left 2 days before to go home for a visit. One of Robert Pictons victims was a girl from my hometown, I knew her, we were in school together.

[@m.a.p.g.]

I used to walk my dog past the pig farm every day. It’s not far from Pitt Lake where dozens of people walk the trails. Haven’t been back to the area since they raided the farm. Too disturbing to think of what was happening there while the public walked around the property on the trails.

[@jonathancunningham8739]

Don't worry a land developer bought the farm they then tuned it into a shopping mall there is no trace of that farm left look it up if that helps but I understand if you still find it too disturbing to walk by there if you still live near by.

[@LiqdPT]

It's not far from Pitt River... The lake is quite a bit further away.

[@m.a.p.g.]

@@jonathancunningham8739 Don’t live anywhere near it for some time now.

[@m.a.p.g.]

@@LiqdPT There’s trails everywhere, as you know well. Later: I used to walk and bike the trails to Pitt Lake, along Pitt River, like many other people did. Haven’t been in the area for at least five years.

[@brikhouse22]

It's not close to Pitt lake either really, 30 mins drive.

[@SPAMDAGGER22]

Calling them rotten bags of milk is being too kind to these monsters

[@JunkBondTrader]

My late father who was a land developer, negotiated Pickton selling off sections of his farm. Had a beer with him and everything. Said despite him being a total hillbilly, was somewhat normal seeming.

[@davidbrock2450]

The story of Robert Pickton was actually became an episode of the TV series "Criminal Minds".

[@SephaiCosades]

A two-part episode, as I recall.

[@davidbrock2450]

@@SephaiCosades Pickton died in prison I think 2 days ago due to injuries of an assault.

[@dosmundos3830]

@@davidbrock2450 stabbed in the head with a broken broomstick apparently.

[@bobmoffatt5529]

@@dosmundos3830- Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving person.

[@MarathonKevin]

Robert Pickton (the pig farmer) was attacked in prison a few weeks ago and just died the other day from his injuries

[@SirRobinBP]

I wish this gave more details, like for example the reason Joseph Albert Guay was caught was really just dumb luck. Apparently he tried to time it so the bomb would explode over a river and never get recovered but because of a delay in takeoff it blew up over land and they were able to investigate the explosion and link the bomb back to him. I heard about this on a crime podcast before and it's an interesting story

[@samhain1894]

Those mojo vids are scant on details.

[@SirRobinBP]

@@samhain1894 too bad, it adds a lot to the story, I think

[@Lavolanges]

This is the only one I wasn’t alive for, but my parents used to talk about it when I was growing up. “Sault-au-Cochon” and “Albert Guay” are forever linked in my head. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Pacific_Air_Lines_Flight_108

[@ThePelehos]

There was also the murder of 22 year old Tim McLean on a greyhound bus in Manitoba back in 2008. Vincent Weiguang Li had stabbed, beheaded and cannibalized Tim in front of everyone on the bus while he slept during the travel. Everyone else got off the bus unharmed, although I am sure they have all suffered a great deal of emotional trauma. It was reported much later that even an RCMP officer had taken their own life as a result of the PTSD from the events on that day and in my opinion, should be added as a collateral charge towards Vincent regardless if he was indirectly responsible, it is still a consequence of his actions. Vincent was unfortunately NOT found to be criminally responsible due to a diagnosis of schizophrenia where he claimed God spoke to him and told him to do it and was instead sentenced to a mental institution where he only spent about 7 years or so before being released. He was apparently granted a complete and absolute discharge with no legal obligations in 2017.

[@itsshanmarie]

The Pickton Pig Farm case was featured on an episode of Criminal Minds

[@vonkatheviking]

Check out the hi way of tears, the amount of missing woman and men as well and the amount of murders that have never been solved is truly heart breaking, Canada has had a huge rise in murders just this year alone, it's too hard to watch the news now, everyday there's a shootings here in Alberta, but in the day light, with children involved, we are actually scared to make people upset, even in traffic, you just never know anymore. Canada isn't all maple syrup and snow angels. Be safe and be kind you never know anymore. I send peace, love and light your way to all the families, and anyone who has gone through a loss. Our judicial system is very broken here I can't believe that people can get away with murder and get out in a few years on good behavior specific terms I believe you do the crime you do the time but there's not enough time when you lose someone that you can never get back. I wish we had stronger penalties.

[@candicelance4521]

Yes. I'm in Alberta too and that shooting was horrific

[@monte2487]

thank you so much telling how it is finally i been waiting for someone to say what happens here daily i respect you very much for that we are too smililar to canada when it comes to violence

[@bridgetkolish4206]

I live in BC, when Pickton was caught, there was also speculation that the Hells Angels of other organized crime used his farm for dumping bodies. Because after years and years a horrifying number of bodies seemed to show up.

[@TaraMurphy-k4s]

My foster sister was one of his victims.

[@bridgetkolish4206]

@@TaraMurphy-k4s I am sorry to hear that

[@HD-ny7ll]

Weren’t the police involved in some way as well? I think I remember hearing that he was friendly with a lot of local cops and often invited them to his parties, which I think is why it took so long for the police to finally do something about the rumours about Picton. They were friends with him and didn’t think women living on the streets were worth listening to so he was able to continue for longer than he should have been able to because the police were absolute shit and liked partying with him.

[@bridgetkolish4206]

@@HD-ny7ll yes I believe that was part of it. Some people think he was a crazy mass murderer, and I think he was a murderer. But I also believe he was allowing others to dump bodies and yeah there was a corrupt police aspect as well because the first few inspections of the farm turned up nothing. But the people who broke the case said there was very suspicious activity that should have warranted action sooner! Thank god my mom was a vegetarian and there was very little bacon and pork in my house growing up! 🤢

[@Combatpzman]

@@HD-ny7ll The other issue was that there was a lack of information sharing between Vancouver Police and the RCMP, which delayed him being caught for many years.

[@charlenemillar7059]

There’s also the Highway of Tears. A series of unsolved MMIWG cases in Northern BC.

[@coleblove2133]

I met one of the survivors on that pig farmers farm. Met him at my cousins wedding.. dude still is going through so much mentally even today.

[@coleblove2133]

To go into a little detail he was one of the few men workers on the farm, it was mostly women. The evil farmer would seek out people with drug addictions and lure them to work on his farm with that.

[@ll7868]

We don't have the death penalty in Canada but if we did "Ken & Barbie" aka Paul Bernardo and Karla Holmoka should have gotten it. Just Google Karla's name and it says "Canadian Serial Killer" right next to it yet she's currently a free woman, how she can show her face in public is beyond my comprehension.

[@nikkibee5608]

Karla Homolka made a deal with the prosecution that got her out less than 12 years later. She apparently married a lawyer and has children of her own. Justice is not found this side of the grave.

[@rachzen]

"How is this not higher on the list?" Oh, wait til you hear the rest of the list.

[@season3249]

You should watch the full story of Bernardo & Homolka and Robert Pickton. The stories are so much more brutal than you could imagine. Also Canada has a justice system that favors criminals. There is rarely any true justice for victims in Canada and I speak as a Canadian. Love your content 😊

[@ronniwright8315]

Those are my top two crimes

[@miriambartley6622]

Truth

[@CassieBear]

crazy thing about picton is not only did he feed his victims to his pigs, he also took them to a close by processing plant that proccess animal left overs into Gelatine for every day products that uses gelatine, like make up, candy and etc which is why investigators couldnt find the other victims remains at his pig farm, from both pigs cause they eat anything and can just digest anything they eat, and the close by processing plant to process the victims remains

[@helentrotter8703]

Discovery channel did a miniseries on Homolka and Bernardo called “ The Ken and Barbie murders” . Hollywood also made a movie about it that was banned in Canada called “ Karla” and starred Laura Prepon ( from That 70’s show fame

[@graniteman62]

Tyler, the Picton farm is Carnoustie Public golf course, the 7th hole is next to the farm with a nole and trees as the dividing line along the left side of the fairway. Was a member there from 1992 to 2006. When u were on the tee box u could hear pigs on the side and there was stories about Robert Picton and his parties plus old cars buried on his land. Then when with his arrest a metal fence went up with cameras by the RCMP.

[@MishkaMeshel]

Oof. You need to do more research on the "ken and barbie killers". Paul bernardo and karla homolka are absolutely disgusting. She should be rotting in prison. Im surprised they weren't higher on the list

[@aileens7928]

Also apparently Justin Trudeau lived near Picton and was seen there occasionally.

[@adventureswithsteph]

The Pickton case....I used to live approx. an hour away from the city he was living in. That was a huge case here for quite a while. We were watching the News as a family when that story came on and we were also eating dinner at the same time. It was so crazy and disturbing.

[@femalism1715]

Paul Bernardo was recently transferred from a maximum security prison to a medium/minimum institution. Canadians were and are outraged!

[@fuzzwork]

you realize the only difference between a maximum and a medium security prison in Canada is only the number of hours he's allowed outside of his cell every day? Most medium security prisons are old maximum security prisons that have been downgraded. In all likelihood going to medium security is going to make Bernardo's life harder, not easier.

[@femalism1715]

@@fuzzwork Bernardo was moved to La Macaza Institution which is built on the least restrictive open-campus model that encourages interaction and cooperation between inmates.

[@fuzzwork]

​@@femalism1715 it's a ex military stockade and residential school. "Open Campus" means that you have to walk outside to get between buildings. As far as interacting with other inmates is concerned, it seems to me that corrections Canada put Bernardo into a situation where other inmates could "interact" with him.

[@rickmiles2955]

Homolka's sweetheart deal will always piss off all Canadians, she was at least as culpable as him, possibly more so

[@user-hr5pc3rt2n]

Tyler you have to remember that these were not everyday events. We had to wait years between each of these events.

[@mathematicaleconomist4943]

Tyler is a smart guy! I am sure he is aware of that!

[@kellywilcox9498]

Waiting to see your reaction to the pig farm story when you learned what happened to the bodies was most ironic. A horror movie indeed for months as the story unfolded.

[@gordonbezanson4710]

Ya its not all sunshine and buttercups. Nova Scotia has the mass murder record now in Canadian history. A guy with a police car and uniform. This tragic incident was like a hollywood movie.

[@MS-ro9dm]

That is a real sketchy one. Mclean's Magazine ran few rather interesting articles on that one.

[@jennifermarlow.]

@@MS-ro9dm He was a 'friend of the detachment'. Nuff said.

[@skarlottt]

I lived in st Catherines Ontario when Kristen was taken. Paul Bernardo and his wife lived in Niagara on the lake. Which was huge beautiful homes. I walked by Kristen's house daily om the way to work. The house in Niagara on the lake, where they committed atrocities,was razed to the ground. Many people were there . Carla Homolka has 2 sisters. They were carrying on, as cashier's. I had so many mixed feelings when i saw her. The sister. Was she mentally well? How do you just go on with life? Tragic

[@zanhar7688]

We lived in Vancouver when Olsen was snatching kids... one was only blocks from where we lived and he was only 9 years old. My own kids were around that age, and it's hard to describe the fear and anxiety that was constant throughout that year. I couldn't even let them play outside. Victims were friends of friends, and the anxiety was even pervasive at work. I am a lab tech and our pathologist was also the police pathologist - he ended up going on extended leave after the horrors he had to deal with. My point is, you don't have to be directly involved with these crimes to be deeply affected by them. We all carry those memories

[@lizzlester1792]

Paul Bernardo was the "Scarborough Rapist" - in the early 90s. Then, he moved on to being a serial killer some years later. I grew up in the 80s and 90s in Scarborough Ontario. I remember the fear circulating at the time regarding the unknown Scarborough rapist. So creepy!

[@sarahpettipher1759]

They really messed up with Karla, after they charged her with a lesser sentence, they found a recording of her enjoying them torturing these poor girls. She was just as sick as he was and I heard she has a child now😡🤬Our justice system sucks I doubt even news about a terrorist attack in Canada would reach the news in the states in 82.

[@nono86753]

At least 3 children…

[@sarahpettipher1759]

@@nono86753 makes me sick

[@nono86753]

@@sarahpettipher1759 same 🤮

[@aurorajansin5357]

As a Canadian i am shocked myself!! I only knew about the Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka case. One of the girls that was kidnapped in St. Catharines , Ontario lived a street down from me at the time and i believe she was a year or two older than i was at the time. They lived not far from me, maybe a 10 minute car ride down by the lake. Outside of that case i havent heard of any of those cases in canada before. Crazy, as that happened here in Canada. Also the first case in your video was in the 40s where he got exucuted. Im not sure when, but canada nolonger has the death penalty. it was just an older case before they took the death penalty away. Thanks for sharing now im interested in cases in Canada as i never knew any of them minus the one and only because it happened so close to home!

[@xollst]

Dont worry, I'm a 37 year old canadian and it took me like 3-4 years of bingeing true crime podcasts and documentaries to learn about the Canada-India air incident. I would have been in early elementary like 10 years after this happened and all through school I never heard a thing about it. We have some dark history that doesn't like to be displayed for public viewing, such as the residential schools that's just coming to public view in recent years.

[@Balognamanforya]

we've been teaching about the residential schools for a long while now, the rest were serial killers and big time A-holes, Canada as a whole is still a pretty great place all said and done, with the exception of our government, both conservatives and liberals are dumb as hell. (I learned about residential schools about 16 years ago now, so its not a new story)

[@Catstimesinfinity]

I went to school on Vancouver Island. We were taught about residential schools through many grades in the 90s. But we may have been to young to understand the extent of it. I knew that for me, the details were too graphic for me to handle so I fazed out for a lot of it. But i remember seeing it in textbooks

[@xollst]

Ah, I was in a catholic school system in the east so take my point of view with that in mind… and other things in mind… damn dirty “priests” 😞

[@AnnQlder]

O Canada! It seems like you have a sentencing problem, much like us in Australia 😮😢

[@danicacornes]

The only reason I learned about it as a child is that some of the casualties had gone to my school, and they had a memorial plaque.

[@Nix936]

The death penalty was abolished from the criminal code in 1976 and from the national defence act in 1998 wiping the death penalty off the books

[@perryelyod4870]

I think that Tyler didn't know about any of these events only indicates the isolation, and insulation of USAmericans in general.

[@davidlakhan3721]

Tyler you should check out the city of London, Ontario. On an episode of Ophra a professor named that city to be the capitol of serial killers. More per capita than anywhere at that time. Side note, Bernardo did abduct Linda Shaw just outside of London in 1989.

[@sarahmacdonald5633]

Curious how many Canadians and how many Americans watch this channel? Canadian here 🙋‍♂

[@jeffreycairns767]

Same, although I can't stand alot of his videos. He ruins it by talking far too much instead of just watching the clips.

[@leandragilmour2806]

Yet here you are...

[@jeffreycairns767]

​@@leandragilmour2806I've made it through half this video and I'm done. He keeps pausing the video and ask stupid questions that would have been answered if he just played the rest of the clip. I'm out

[@kathryndunn9142]

Well I'm from uk and I watch all his channels

[@lacteur1]

@@jeffreycairns767 Agreed. Tyler seems to think a reaction video means you react to every. single. word. He obviously likes the sound of his own nasal voice more than the video he watches.

[@luj.9203]

Update: 2024-05-20. He was assaulted in prison by other inmates, in critical condition. Not expected to survive.

[@naomicummings]

The air India bombing is something I’ve certainly heard about but didn’t really know much about. I’m just as confused, only 15 years in prison? What? Also, the case of the boozed barber or whatever he was called, I shudder to wonder if he got off so easy because his victims were Indigenous women. Lastly, Picton and the pig farm. That was near Vancouver and I remember that breaking news. Huge case on missing and murdered women.

[@MegMakesCrafts]

There’s a multipart docu-series that at one time you could find here on KZbin. I wanna say it was a discovery documentary called like The Ken and Barbie Killers or something similar about Paul Bernardo and Karla Hamolka if you want to grasp the entirety of that atrocity. The fact that she isn’t in prison is WILD.

[@rob-time]

I recall the story of nurse Susan Nelles who murdered a 4 babies in 1980 at Toronto General Hospital. That should be on this list, but I understand that it may be too upsetting to people to consider.

[@lorne7332]

I was expecting her to be on that list. She belongs there She was exonerated, but the story is still a memorable one.

[@user-hr5pc3rt2n]

That was never proved I believe. And it happened at Sick Kids not TGH..

[@CrDa-i7e]

Susan Neiles was not a killer, the coroner was incompetent and did not understand that medications pool after death. He was fired in Ontario. My wife worked at sick kids when she was charged because her boy friend told her to aske for a lawyer before answering question, the nurses knew that doctors were not investigate during the investigation, that during night when the nurses called to report problems with their patients they would give orders verbal orders for medications but had to be chased down the next morning to get them to sign the off on the orders, a royal commission proved her innocence. DO YOUR RESEARCH

[@kmacgregor6361]

@@lorne7332 Why would she be on the list if she was exonerated, i.e. didn't commit the crime?

[@lorne7332]

@kmacgregor6361 I meant the story belonged there and unfortunately Susan's name is still associated with it.

[@tanyablake1145]

On the show Criminal Minds the was a story line referring to Robert Pickton.