American Reacts What Will Sweden Bring to NATO: A Warographics Analysis

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[@CM-ey7nq]

As a Norwegian I'm allowed to make fun of the Swedes all I want. So are the Finns. Mess with the Swedes, though, and you'll suddenly see some brotherly love up here in the North. We are a little weird like that. And yes, Iceland is in Nato. Simplified (very): Rumsfeld decided that Norway should take over the air defence of Iceland after the Iraq debacle and it was no longer the US responsibility, basically. Kind of a downgrade (to put it mildly), but from what I'm told the Icelanders at least appreciate that we're there.

[@Danjelion]

Just like Gotland, Iceland is an unsinkable air carrier and a vital point for controlling and patrol the northen trade-routes

[@GummiAnd]

As a Dane I make fun of Swedes all the time, just like they make fun of us 😄 but like my fellow here from Norway, I'm all about that love for my brothers and sisters throughout Northern Europe! You mess with any one of us, you mess with us all!! 💪🤘

[@bisratezra8247]

@CM Så sant, så sant. Hälsning från Sverige.

[@bisratezra8247]

​@@GummiAnd Så sant, så sant. Hälsning från Sverige.

[@TheAtraxz]

​@@GummiAndand as a Swede we reserve the right to make fun of you both 😊 we nordic have more in common than not in common. If you want you can have Skåne...😂

[@E-jit]

Turkey is mad at us for housing Kurdish refugees and Hungary is mad at us for criticizing them and prime minister Victor Orbàn directly for their lack of human rights and terrible immigration policies. That about sums up that issue 🇸🇪

[@dutchman7623]

Correct! But other countries like the Netherlands support the Kurdish course as well, and criticize Hungary as well, they do not depend on any favors by Turkey or Hungary. It's T and H powerplay, useless, but they can't do anything else.

[@donquixote1502]

@@dutchman7623 As a Swede I have for some reason always considered the Netherlands as one of our closest friends like Denmark, Norway, Iceland, and Finland.

[@TheExcessus]

@@dutchman7623 they're already IN nato though...

[@dutchman7623]

@@donquixote1502 That's mutual! We feel close to the Nordic countries as well. And to our strange little sister Belgium also. Though somewhat weird, we cannot stop loving her. So we are glad the north has joined the EU/EEA, and NATO, some alike-minded will be a good balance in all our cooperation.

[@dutchman7623]

@@TheExcessus That's why we do not need favors and can say and do whatever we want. Let's support the democratic forces in Hungary and Turkey with one voice!

[@Tony-wu4wk]

To answer your question about swedens natural resources. arsenic, copper, gold, iron ore, lead, silver, uranium, zinc, tungsten, and feldspar. Iron ore being the biggest resource that we have

[@yoshiwiklund8571]

You forgot wood 😂

[@melkor3496]

Also WOOOOD. :)

[@richardwest6358]

Neutral Sweden supplied much of Nazi Germanys iron ore.

[@torgrim123]

Gold?, not that much

[@Jonsson474]

@@torgrim123 On a world comparison the gold mining in Sweden isn’t that big but it’s till the second largest producer in Europe after Spain.

[@nahiag]

No, it was 1 Gotland submarine vs carrier with suport crafts and they couldn't even find the sub. They extended the training time too.

[@productjoe4069]

16:40 offensive cyberwarfare is any attack made through digital means. That includes disabling enemy communications (preventing them coordinating) as well as disrupting enemy control systems such as at power plants, or water systems, or food production facilities. It’s like being able to besiege a whole country remotely.

[@productjoe4069]

This can be done surprisingly easily by the way. Take electrical power. It’s made cost effective and reliable by the existence of power grids. These rely on very careful synchronisation between supply and demand, and distribution that is done these days over the internet (previously phone calls over the telephone network, which is also the internet now). Disrupt that synchronisation somehow, or take over a substation’s control computer and get it to suddenly shut down, and you can cause a large blackout that takes hours to weeks to fix. That’s why most countries have prioritised defensive cyberwarfare capabilities.

[@matseklundh8241]

Telecommunications is vital in today’s society and it would probably be the first to be taken out. Imagine if we suddenly can’t communicate

[@johnnorthtribe]

​@@matseklundh8241yeah that is why it is so important that starlink keeps operating in Ukraine.

[@victorcapel2755]

The most famous cyber warfare act might be the Israeli attack on the Iranian nuclear program, IIRC, the Israelis had to physically install a virus first though (as in, plug in a USB-drive into an Iranian computer), but they managed to get their Uranium centrifuges to spin out of controll and break, setting the Iranian program back years.

[@michaelmay5453]

Not only is Iceland a member of NATO, it's a founding member along with Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom and the United States. Note that both of the other Scandinavian nations (Denmark and Norway) are founding members and all Nordic nations except Sweden are now members. The problem is that Hungary doesn't like that we critique them in the EU so they are trying to use that as leverage and Turkey just keeps adding to an agreement that was made and is already fulfilled. They are trying to get as much as they can before they say yes but enough is enough. We did what they wanted in the agreement, now it's their turn to hold up their end of the agreement.

[@nocturne7371]

Iron Ore is the natural resource that Sweden is most famous for. Sweden sold ore to Germany during WWII but threatened to blow up the mine if Germany tried to invade Sweden. But selling the ore to Germany came with the threat of being invaded by the Allies. But the Swedish Iron Ore is of high quality and very sought after.

[@dlind1985]

Churchill made a deal with Russia to have the upper North of Sweden (Övre Norrland) where the ore was.

[@Fridhemsken]

One thing that you miss (understandably) about Sweden during WW2, is that you assume that Germany is automaticly the main enemy. But for Sweden at that time parting with the allies means parting with Russia that has attacked and are at war with Finland, wich was a part of Sweden until 1809. Sweden had sent a great deal of its military equipment to Finland, along with a lot of aid and volunteers to the army. Whilst Germany was highly regarded by Sweden both culturally and economicaly. History is not as simple as you might think.

[@OscarSommerbo]

There were also a lot of sympathy for both Germany and Nazism in Sweden at the time. So much so that German leaders vacationed in Sweden during the early stages of the war. Göring famously married a Swedish woman, that has been given too much importance in the explanation of Sweden staying out of Germany's claws, I think. There were many reasons why Sweden dodged the war, first from being invaded and then from being forcibly inducted to the allies. Sweden's animosity towards Russia was the main driver to stay out of the Allies, and Germany only came calling when they started losing. If the Nazis had been a little sneakier, Sweden could have sided with them. But the war crimes that the Nazis engaged in really upset Swedish politicians, and general public. The full scale wasn't known at the time, of course. But it still was too grisly to ignore.

[@magnuslundstedt2659]

​@oscarsommerbo5043 sweden also had a secret weapon to deter the Germans from invade. German bought iron from sweden, and the most important source was the mine in Kiruna. And it was outspoken that if Germany would try to invade, the mine would go boom, I have met people who worked there during the war, and they all tell the same story, they where prepared to blow up the mine with very short notice. And that had meant no more iron for the Germans.

[@Duegey]

I'm so impressed by your knowledge and your enthusiasm to learn more

[@mikaeljakobsson8288]

Sweden mines 90% of the iron in Europe.

[@melkor3496]

Very profitable resource it’s proven for us.

[@michaelmay5453]

Third biggest exporter of wood as well not to mention limestone. We do have quite a few different natural resources, some unrealised because of regulation but that's about to end. We're also at the very forefront when it comes to tech, both for military and civilian use.

[@larrywave]

Not so sure 🤔

[@michaelmay5453]

@@larrywave You're not so sure about what? LKAB does that and it's true. This is well known and the requests for more are absolutely insane.

[@larrywave]

@@michaelmay5453 i trust Google more than you

[@michaelmay5453]

You're correct on that Sweden does not border the Arctic ocean even though part of our nation is part of the Arctic region.

[@maxim0666]

Sweden had its own nuclear weapons program under the Cold War. When it was stopped in the early seventies it was one to two years from testing a Swedish nuclear weapon. The design, production facilities and the enriched uranium was all in place.

[@Dennan]

not 1-2 years, 6 month from getting our first device.

[@ThomasVanhala]

So SAAB's main thing is airplanes and cars was just a side business for them. SAAB stand for Swedish Aeroplane Limited if you translated it to English.

[@stormmoster]

Yes, after WWII the thought the demand for military aircraft wouldn't be that great so the decided to try to make cars to sta in buisnes.

[@victorcapel2755]

I'd say they more of a general defence contractor today rather than mainly a airplane builder. They do missiles, radar systems and so on. Kind of Swedens own Boeing, mostly known for airplanes but not their actual main thing.

[@Rbajter]

It's just Saab these days, not SAAB. The logo still uses the historical capitalisation but the name no longer means anything.

[@Terji]

are you aware that the red bar at the bottom of your thumbnails makes it appear to people as if they have already watched the video?

[@Annaireo]

As to if Sweden has natural resources. We are the 6th largest exporter of Iron ore and something like the 3rd largest exporter of wood products.

[@Brakvash]

That's *one* reason why the Nazis never invaded - cause Sweden supplied a large part of the german iron and wood, among other resources - and we'd blow up all this industry if the Nazis ever tried.

[@goldrush5764]

We have three big resources that our big companies basically were created from. Iron, wood and free energy! When I say free energy, I mean that we are one of the top countries in the world with the most hydro power. That has played a key role in our development since the rest of Europe had to digg up and burn coal. That was a much more cumbersome process, it required much more work to create the energy that was needed and it was far more expensive. This was one of the big reasons why we outcompeted the rest of Europe when it comes to the iron/steel industry. Because to melt iron, it requires a lot of energy. We also have one of the best iron ores in the world, with the highest iron ore content. This also saves energy, because you don't need to melt as much ore to get the iron you need. You also have less impurities the cleaner ore you have, which also means less energy to refine it. So we had two major advantages compared to other countries and therefore we could outcompete them in the iron/steel industry. Since we had these two greate resources a big iron/steel industry could be created. In other words, we started to build stuff out of iron/steel. That's why we have such a mature and strong manufacturing base, even to this day. But! And a big but, we have another thing going for us and without this thing we would be nothing, even though we have these great resources. That is, that we are one of the strongest democracy's in the world! If you look at countries with greate resources, like Venezuela, who got the most oil in the world. They should technically be rich, right? Well, they are poor as f**k, and the reason is political. They are a dictatorship and therefore they can't utilize the resources that they have. To prove my point. Ask yourself, which countries are the richiest countries in the world? Well, the answer is all the countries in the west. What do they have in common? You guessed right, democracy! All other countries (with a few exceptions) in the world who don't have that are basically poor. Strong dictatorship, equals poor country. Strong democracy, equals rich country. That is how it all works. As I said earlier, this is the big reason why we are so productive, simply because we are one of the strongest democracy's in the world! .. ;) This is why the Nobel price comes from Sweden. Why we have had so much inventors, entrepenuers, so much innovasion, etc. We have been a free country for a long time! So, our greatest resource is our strong democracy! That's the summarization for you.. /Cheers from Sweden!

[@knuthenriksommer4982]

Norway wraps all the way round to Russia along the arctic ocean (barents-sea). Finland used to have a connection to the arctic sea, but lost the area (Petsamo/Peshenga) to the Soviet-union in the winter-war.

[@tnightwolf]

As someone from Portugal that loves my country (but also loves the entire Europe's history) i've always regarded the Northern Europe's countries with a mix of curiosity and respect for what they've accomplished and their mentality/perspective towards life/way of living! From my perspective it is still a shitty weather to live in tbh 😁 but it also produces some of the most "magical-like" spots, moments and landscapes in the world! And at the end of the day, i just wish we (Europe as an all) can learn a little more with that region! That or just make them relax and appreciate sunny beaches and the small things of life, even if just for 1 week or 2: the stupid and mindless fun of just not think about how stupid and often mindless Life and Reality can actually be!😆

[@michael_177]

Connor, Iceland is a founding member of NATO.

[@Covenantt666]

And the reason is cause it's the Gotland of the North Atlantic Straight on the line between Murmansk and the Eastern seaborder of NA.

[@XNSever]

We worked together with Germany to create a next gen tank in the 70s, while it didn't ultimately work out in the end, both US and Germany used this collaboration to create their MBTs, now known as the Abrams and the Leopard

[@victorcapel2755]

The distance between Finland and Estonia is tiny, my cousins (lives in Finland) regularly makes the journy with a small sail boat.

[@jackshellard4627]

Swedens tanks aren't actually leopard 2 tanks, Swedens main battle tank is a modified and improved version of the german leopard 2 known as the Stridsvagn 122

[@melkor3496]

So many people don’t know this and I wish more did. We basically like you said have a better more improved Leopard 2 tank.

[@faderneslandet3489]

And not just a modified Leopard II; it is the best variant of the tank and was awarded the best main battle tank in the world in 2010.

[@michaelmay5453]

It's still a Leopard 2 that will take spares from the Leopard series. Don't get me wrong, the improvements are quite vast and special for the role us Swedes use tanks for but it's still a Leopard.

[@michaelmay5453]

@@faderneslandet3489 No, it's fully Leopard 2 with some things added on to it. You can't take something, add a few things and say it's not that thing anymore, it makes no sense what so ever.

[@Bjowolf2]

Aka. Leopard 3 😂

[@SweDaneDragon]

The reason NATO as such dont sent troups is to not escalate to nuclear blasts. NATO is however very much behind why that war is still ongoing. The US swore to defend Ukraine, if it was ever attacked, if Ukraine gave up their nuclear missiles. Ukraine did give them up, so the US is bound by that agreement.

[@tnightwolf]

And what many people forget is that Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons was one of the main reasons why the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty was possible and effective (at least at the time) allowing for a more prolonged peace in Europe. Unfortunately Putin not only betrayed that historical confidence-vote given by Ukraine, but it's clear that he also doesn't really values peace in Europe.

[@Naugur]

Sweden has the largest iron mine in Europe, IIRC. Kiruna is the town created with the sole purpose to mine it, and it's located in the far, far north.

[@jonasfermefors]

Talking to my friends and colleagues I don't think Sweden's primary motivation to join NATO is fear. We have always viewed Russia as the untrustworthy neighbour to the east, but it hasn't pushed us into NATO before. I think this is a result of many geopolitical parts. Globalization and climate change make us realize all actions have global ramifications. We feel democracies are under threat and that they need to be defended. We are more inclined than we have been for centuries in getting involved in assisting in military conflicts if we believe they are necessary. But more than anything we feel Ukraine's pain and understand how it would feel, so we want to stop it and build alliances against it happening again.

[@thehoogard]

While I think most of us Swedes appreciated the existance of NATO, and the stability it brought to the region, there was an argument to be made about having neutral buffer states as some kind of addtional stability. Basically, there was no reason to 'rock the boat' by joining. With the invasion of Ukraine, that argumentation went out the window. So unless you were against NATO as a whole, most Swedes who were previously agains joining, now changed their views. That's my take on it at least. I wasl always pro joining, and arguably, we're more safe now than we were during the cold war, so somethign else must be the reason than just the threat of russia.

[@pite9]

That argument is more valid today than ever. Why should we volunteer to sign up to another cold war between USA and Russia? A country being officially part of Nato doesn't somehow make an invasion less likely, especially not after this conflict. USA and other Nato states had already helped train the Ukrainian army, and since the war, they have aided Ukraine almost to the breaking point. Even if Ukraine had been part of Nato officially, there's nothing we could have done that hasn't already been done, other than sending troops. But then nukes might start to fly. If you think that Russia respects the boundaries of Nato so much that they wouldn't touch any Nato countries, then you're contradicting your own propaganda. Nato membership is irrelevant. What matters is how far both sides are willing to escalate. I think Russia saw a fully militarized Ukraine getting fully integrated into the western sphere as a huge threat to their own security. And that's why they were willing to do what they could to reverse the current course, by dividing the country in two and nullifying the threat. They knew that there was a possibility that this would escalate into nuclear war. I don't think they care this much about Sweden or Finland, and they have no leverage here. In Ukraine they have lots of history and culture that ties their populations together and they are also taking advantage of the US-fueled inner conflict between pro-west and pro-russian ukrainians, using this as a casus belli to justify their invasion. What do you suppose Russia would do if they captured Finland or Sweden? How would they impose their rule over us when we have almost nothing in common? There are no upsides to joining Nato, but plenty of downsides. It obviously puts a target on our backs by joining an alliance that aims to regime change Russia and split the country into smaller pieces. Regardless, we had no reason to fear an invasion, but if things were to escalate over the Baltic sea, for example around Kaliningrad, we might get targeted by russian bombing campaigns, especially so if we were to allow Nato or USA to set up military bases on swedish soil, which is going to happen. It's not like we have any say in the matter.

[@thehoogard]

@@pite9 Absolute nonsense. The only proof we need is that Russia had no problems invading countries not part of NATO, while staying away from NATO countries. Until Russia does the latter you have no point.

[@pite9]

@@thehoogard Following your logic, Nato is purely an offensive alliance and not an defensive alliance since they have never defended their own territory, but invaded lots of countries. Again, your propaganda isn't even consistent. As for what Nato actually is, it's both the sword and the shield of the US empire. The Ukraine war have proven that Nato will get involved defensively in countries that aren't member states, as long as the US empire have interests to protect there. So obviously we can assume that Sweden would have been defended too, if Russia were to invade, which only a crazy person would think. The reason why Russia have not touched Nato countries like Estonia and Latvia, which on the surface might look similar to Ukraine is because they weren't victims of US regime change. Them moving to the west was more natural, and it was supported by their populations. So Russia would have no means of controlling those territories after taking over them. That isn't the case in Ukraine. The majority wanted to have strong ties to Russia, but the US backed government went rogue after 2014 and haven't listened to the majority will of the ukrainians. They only follow the will of the radical Ukraine nationalists, because USA funded them and financed ukrainian media which propped them up. Zelensky said that he was going to change this, but he didn't deliver on his promises. Unlike Ukraine, the baltic states didn't escalate political tension with Russia. They also didn't go after their russian minorities. And most important of all, they didn't try to build up their armies, and militarily they were never a threat in the first place. In total, the 3 baltic states have a population of only around 6 million. That's around the same as the city of St. Petersburg, and less than Belarus. Ukraine had a population of over 40 millions, without Crimea. And this was after a massive depopulation. The Ukrainian diaspora living in the west is huge and was heavily involved in both the Maidan project and in rallying opposition against Russia, post-invasion. All of these forces could have in a decade or two been rallied against Russia on russian soil if Russia had opted to stay out of the conflict. Many US neocons have admitted that they want to regime change Russia and divide up the country into small pieces. They want to control their vast amount of resources. Russia just couldn't tolerate a strong Ukraine that was militarized and politically and economically controlled by USA, since they would have been a piece that they would play to threaten and maybe even invade Russia.

[@thehoogard]

@@pite9 If you're going to make straw mans, I'm not even going to bother reading your wall of text. That's a non-sequitor and you know it.

[@pite9]

@@thehoogard Yeah. Go and hide. You clearly haven't thought through or researched this topic.

[@mrbrand4720]

21:16 it is like your AWAC's but a bit smaller .

[@Rbajter]

The Saab GlobalEye is equipped with an air-to-air search radar, a surface search radar and a bunch of powerful cameras to look at stuff on the surface.

[@tnightwolf]

37:44 It is not a matter of obstacles. It is an Alliance and considering all that is happening (and despite myself not being pro-war at all) 2% as a commitment isn't that high tbh. The fundamental thing i would always leave up to any country is the way they choose to spend/invest those 2% within their own practical and strategic place in an Alliance.

[@debsnjim]

Funny you mention car companies often also having airforce contracts, because a lot of such modern day companies built the mainstay aircraft of WW2. Mitsubishi produced at least a few models of naval aircraft, notably the A6M Zero. Subaru made a fair few naval aircraft too. For theGermans, I think BMW developed some engines for the Germans, but I'm not as sure about other companies that mostly focus on cars now. I think a lot of aircraft companies at the time were originally car or truck companies, so they would've just refocused on the civilian car market instead of sticking to the military aircraft market post-war.

[@SweDaneDragon]

Hungary follows Turkey. Sweden has a huge number of Hungarian Romani beggars. And we also have a lot of Kurds that Turkey wants extradited. But Sweden don't extradite Swedish citicens unless they have commited very serious crimes. And the crimes Turkey wants them on don't meet Swedish standards. The main reason though is that Erdogan faced serious criticism, and the "fight" with Sweden gave him an excuse. Which seemsto have given him the election.

[@Rbajter]

I wouldn't say a huge number, but being beggars and Romani, they were quite visible all over the country. And I do believe most of them were from Romania.

[@magdalenabozyk1798]

@@Rbajter Agreed, the beggars are Romani from Romania. In the late 80s they begged in Poland, now they beg in Sweden.

[@magdalenabozyk1798]

To be fair, Sweden hasn't been neutral for years/decades. The neutrality only exists on paper. Swedish forces have for a long time trained together with NATO forces (like that war game in 2005). When it's the last time Sweden trained together with the eastern block? Also, during the Cold War Sweden was training its military for Russian invasion, never for NATO invasion. So, the neutrality wasn't that very neutral.

[@matso3856]

It might shock you Sweden trained with Russia after the end of the cold war , although that quickly ended once journalist found out the russian unit hosting the swedish unit was accused of warcrimes in Chechnya , and to my knowledge hasnt been done since. Also minor corrections , first Sweden trained for a Soviet invasion , and it wasnt until 2014 Russia was seen as the main potential invading force. Secondly Sweden claimed non-belligerency after the Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939 , many incl swedes still think they claimed neutrality.

[@Bawamba]

The reason Turkey was againt Swedish NATO membership before the election in Turkey was because we have gave a few kurds asylum in Sweden that's marked as terrorists in Turkey. We also had a Danish dude "Rasmus Paludan" that was burning the koran, which is fully legal in Sweden due to the freedom of expression and freedom of speach. But Erdogan was making a thing out of it before the election in Turkey to make it look like he want whats best for Turkey and not himself. So he said that we (Sweden) had to change our oldest laws of freedom of expression and freedom of speach, and he also said he wanted those kurds "terrorists" back to Turkey. But now after the election, he said he wont stand in the way. And we've done shit nothing to meet his requirements.

[@tomblord12]

To answer about the tanks. Leopard 2 and Abrams were actually developed and designed in co-op between US and Germany all up to around KPZ-70 or MBT-70 in US i think development went all up to 1970 or something until US werent happy with German desing and decided to go on their own way. At first Abrams used British 105mm cannon but later they changed to 120mm German gun that Leopard 2 has too. Engine is differend.. Leopard has 1500bhp Diesel and Abrams has basicly a jet engine. i'd say these days both are on par with each others

[@SweDaneDragon]

Finland and Estonia is working on building a tunnel beneath the gulf separating them.

[@dlind1985]

I have played (the drums) 260-300 times, maybe more, where the army - musicians play in the 'Castle Garden' / High Guard. (på Slottsgården / Högvakten, STHLM) 36:30

[@MatzeMB85]

A bit of insight on the planned build up in Swedens capabilities. Last year plans to boost the military spending to the 2% was made. The Swedish Överbefälhavare (commander-in-chief?) Made a statement of what, among other things should be done with the money. The Gripen planes are to be all be upgraded to the E variant and an additional 60 fuselages were to be added to the force of 100 fuselages present, that doesn't mean all of these are in active service at the same time. The corvettes are to get upgrades and one more submarine will be built. Mlrs systems and loiter munitions are to be bought and forces using these will be established. All this within a 3 year period. That's what I remember on top of my head. After that there have been two other interesting points brought up. The nordic countries are planning to join together under one command when it comes to the air forces. Another article stated that one of the things planned for Sweden if/when in NATO is to be the quick reaction force in the air above the baltic states. Hipe that clears up a few question marks left by this video.

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

We're getting a total upgrade of infantry rifles now too. SAKO from Finland. The same as the Finns.

[@alexbuckenham1663]

Sweden has really advanced aircraft design and they design great ATGMs. They designed the NLAW, Saab Bofors dynamics go brr

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

CV90 go brrrrr

[@mrbrand4720]

10:02 Yes Iceland is a member in NATO

[@MakooWallinen]

Gripen is specefically built for small and mobile lunch platforms, so you can move everything including the plane on a charge truck to any road, make a road into an airfield and launch it from anywhere in Sweden and just continually move everything, so the plane can flky from spot 1 where crew a is, and fly to spot 2 and do a mission and then fly to spot 3, where team A has now moved the entire platform and can repair the plane. All of this is to cover that giant space.

[@MarkusWande]

No, no... don't 'stop talking' man! I'm here for your reaction! ;)

[@tommytharning932]

The gun is an AK-5 (Automatkarbin). A swedish variant of the FN FNC

[@seber946]

As a swede with knowledge about this i actually found your video good, if you would be interested in doing a follow up where we talk a about the things you had questions about i would love to do it and i think it would be a good part 2. Let me know if you would be interested!

[@nixuv]

Mr Connor no link to the orginal video?

[@Granfoss]

Sweden have been putting a lot of money and personnel into the military since Russia invaded Crimea in 2014.

[@gyderian9435]

Sliver of sea between Finland & Estonia is called the Gulf of Finland.

[@gyderian9435]

The narrowest part is 52km.

[@Belnick6666]

Rheinmetall made the cannon for the Köningstiger/Tiger 2 , they also made the cannon for the M1 Abrams and Leopard 2 they are still at it hehe, adolf demise did nothing to their cannons

[@irystocratictakodachithatmooms]

A major issue regarding not defending Ukraine is that they provide a large amount of the worlds grain. I think that it's that the American public is tired of sending their military overseas and would see it as just another intervention. It doesn't help that many Americans are increasingly dumb because of the politicians stripping the education system there. There are also lots of people that don't care about distinctions unless they are directly threatened. Then there's the fact that some countries in NATO are too politically close to Russia which is incredibly stupid with somebody like Putin in charge. I just hope Ukraine gains a resounding victory and forces Russia to demilitarize in the following peace treaty.

[@Alternboy]

Hostorically speaking there is a difference that isn't talked about much. WW1 didn't threaten an invasion in to scandinavia. When it comes to WW2 we had too much in common with borh sides and didn't have enough of a spine to join the allies. The amount of swedes happily waiting for a na*i invasion should not be understated.

[@mrbrand4720]

14:18 But US navy rented Gotland submarine for 12-24 months after that happened . Just to get a feeling for how to counter that kind of submarine .

[@OscarSommerbo]

Not only the sub, the crew too.

[@Rix.67]

'Military high quality weapon systems'....battlefield ground' between 'Norway/USA - Finland/Russia'... 'Balticsea can say goodbuy' 🇸🇪

[@magnuslundstedt2659]

It's true what you say. On the global stage countries dont have friends, they have intetests.

[@FemaleSniper86]

The 2% isn't as easy to just cough up because our money goes to other things that we are not ready to give up on or take money from, such as healthcare, school systems and infrastructure. And more things of course. Now, if you want us to suddenly get the 2% in quicker than let's say 10 years, that means we have to raise our taxes. And we are already top 4 (or nr 2 after Denmark if you add up all the "extras") so that is also not an option. Some of us are not living so luxuriously that we can just raise our taxes from 30% to 40% of our salary, that means we will either live on the streets or starve. So, no. It is not that easy to just raise the % spent on military in Sweden.

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

We have been a partner of NATO for a long time, our military standard has been aligned with NATO for many years and Sweden and NATO has conducted joint excercises for a long time. We haven't been truly neutral at all. Joining is just the next logical step. It's more honest.

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

"Can we steal some of their tank-engineers?". Well.... You stole their rocket-engineers... Operation Paperclip *cough* *cough*

[@madeswe3165]

Well, Orban (Hungary)is going to do what Erdie (Erdogan) does… Orban has a problem with Hungarys EU membership because they don’t follow the democratic “rules” as they suppose to do. So EU is holding of funds. That is one of the reasons. Both Turkey and Hungary is making our NATO membership political. We (Sweden) are not surprised.

[@stormmoster]

The series "When the war comes" especially part 4 takes up cyber war.

[@stormmoster]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4DYf52GZq2ZgNE

[@Brakvash]

8:36 Swede here - just FYI the Feb 24th 2022 invasion may have been the last nail in the coffin - however since the early 2000s Sweden has had several close encounters with russian fighter aircraft (flying into swedish airspace, approaching swedish fighters so close they nearly crashed), one of those "incidents" was the reason why Sweden reinstated mandatory military service for both genders in 2014. To summarize, we already knew Russia was a threat, and was testing us early on - but the Ukraine war was the final confirmation that Russia was off its rocker (again). Russia was threatening us and our neighbour nations long before the Ukraine, and Georgian war.

[@matso3856]

No , that was annoying at best , incl the nuclear bombing of Gotland. 2014 little green men started to appear in Ukraine (Crimea) and the Russian claim they didnt know where they could be from , despite having the latest russian gear.

[@Greksallad]

One single mine in Kiruna produces 80% of all the iron in the EU and Sweden as a whole produces 90% of the EU's iron in total.

[@TheApilas]

The water area between Finland and Estonia is called Gulf of Finland: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Finland

[@magnuslundstedt2659]

First and foremost. Sweden have not had an neutrality policy or been neutral for 200 years. We have had an non aligned policy with the goal to be able to chose neutrality when a conflict arise. The reason to why sweden now applied to membership in NATO is that the ones who wanted us to join took their chance when people whete scared rather than thinking for themselves.

[@Christian-ej9up]

I have no idea why the Wareography video dude so interchangeably is referring to the country Sweden by saying. Stockholm. Yes it’s the capital, but Stockholm doesn’t have their own military force or political precedence… Also pronouncing Kaliningrad as “Kalingrad” drew away a few points. Now we are members of NATO! Fun fact, the area of Roslagen in Mideast of Sweden is thought to be the origin of the name of Russia, as “Rus” settlers from the area in the Viking days founded the Kiev realm and Novgorod. In Finland Sweden is called Ruotsi. Using Putins logic from the Tucker Carlson (also a Sweden descendant) pointing out history as a reason why Ukraine is a part of Russia, Sweden could equally have the rightful claim of Russia!😂

[@GorchaxGaming]

6:10 Technically speaking, the risk of sweden being invaded is probably alot higher as a member of nato, which is in conflict with russia. While neutral, Russia respected us, kept sending subs to spy and map out our waters (just to end up stranded on our beach), just to keep up with our increasingly efficient invasion-repelling military built for decades. Our neutrality was no worry to putin, and i'm sure he knows about the history between our countries. As a member, we are now a potential threat. Remember, until recently, both finland and sweden was not in nato, but had their own military alliance agreement. I would assume Putin feels alot more threatened now due to his entire western border now being solidly held by Nato members.

[@henrikvidin]

We want to contribute to the peace, That's why! Finland is important to us. That's another thing.

[@Svenssonize]

13:05 Yes to the first question, no to the second. 15:05 Lol u did, Operation Paperclip look it up u will find allot of nazi Germany wepons that look VERY simillar to wepons the US had in Korea and Vietnam.

[@AlexC-ou4ju]

But like the soviets did shocking how close the ak47 resembles the stg44

[@SweDaneDragon]

There is another island in the Baltic sea that is important. Bornholm. A small island, south east of Sweden, but a Danish territory.

[@benktlofgren4710]

Do not forget Åland, Russian planes there, and Stockholm, Åbo, and Helsingfors are fuckt. Any Finn able to shed light on the demilitarizing treaty there with the Soviet Union and any chance to break it?

[@magnusnilsson9792]

Åland & Ösel are not unimportant either.

[@SweDaneDragon]

@@magnusnilsson9792 of course not. But Russia has a special interest in Bornholm after the agreements made after WW2.

[@densmorde4520]

20:20, I assure you there is mining.

[@moffepolle]

We have one of Europes largest copper mine that is waqiting for green light . and we have alot of iron and uranium

[@vc6094]

Sweden has all the wood we need all the iron we need any copper and we found rare earth elements in the north NEXT to our biggest mine. I know i heard that there was even more rare earth elements in the mid of sweden north of the biggest lake we got. (unconfirmed) Then food is a weakness we import most of it and it's from china, other european counterparts and south america

[@stormmoster]

Going from China to Europe via the Artic sea is shorter than going through the Suez canal and there are no pirates.

[@OscarSommerbo]

No pirates, yet.

[@Karl-Benny]

Jamming Radars GPS as well

[@OscarSommerbo]

The NATO spending goal was set at 2% of GDP at a conference in Wales in 2014, but it is important to note that it was a goal, not a target. No member would be penalized for missing the mark. And it is "military spending" since all NATO countries except the US has universal health care we can't track something like the VA separately, so we can't classify care to ex-military personell as a military spending. Sweden passed a law prior to applying to NATO that defense spending should hit 2% by 2028, I knew then that a NATO membership was planned. The various troop numbers presented are technically correct but also very misleading. Many militaristically minded Swedes likes to portray Sweden as defenseless due to meddling politicians, that isn't quite true, our standing Army for instance were never reduced to 10 000. If it were, the Norwegians could have invaded and won. Sweden's primary benefit to NATO is a low-cost alternative to the US air supremacy fighter with JAS 39. And geography, we would trap the Russian navy in port. Once Sweden is in NATO, Russia will be screwed, they will be relegated to their true place a minor power along the lines of Spain and Italy. Russia's navy is a joke, but the loss of transit opportunity in the Baltic completely neuters it. But realistically the difference is only in writing, since Sweden has been in NATO light(Partnership for peace) for nearly 3 decades the change is a mere formality. Turkey hates Sweden for our treatment of Kurds and more specifically PKK members, Turkey considers PKK terrorists, the Swedish Left (gross generalization) considers them freedom fighters. However, Erdoğan has promised that after the election that he would drop his objections. Hungary's PM Victor Orbán, takes his cues from Erdoğan and Sweden has repeatedly called out Orbán and his government for human rights abuses and mistreatment of refugees fleeing war, Sweden has even made noises about bringing it up in the EU human rights court. It is expected that if Turkey drops their objection (Sweden has made some concessions to Erdoğan) Orbán would drop his objection too.

[@Fridhemsken]

SAAB= Svenska (Swedish) Aeroplan (Aeroplane) AB (Joint-stock company). The company was formed to build aeroplanes but started building cars after the war to make use of there manufacturing plants. Sadly they did not use the underground factory.

[@Zabiru-]

Sweden has plenty of good natural resources. One of the more obvious ones are our vast forests and all of the industrial uses it can be used for. Lumber for sustainable houses in the future and manufacturing of consumer goods, paper, chemicals used in other industries, synthetic fuel among other things. A second huge resource are our northern iron-mines. And on the topic of mines, surveys have recently found sizeable what are known as "Strategic Metals"-deposits that are due to be exploited in the coming years. These include rare earth minerals highly sought after and needed in the manufacturing of modern technology including batteries for electric vehicles, computer parts and the like. Yet another big industry in the frigid north of Sweden is computer server halls housing the hardware that hosts the internet. Websites, storage, back-end utilities for multi-national corporations and the like. The main reason for this being an ideal location for such businesses being that the relatively low ambient temperatures at these latitudes makes for much greater ease of cooling for these highly heat-intensive and generating activities. Also there is an abundance of relatively cheap electricity with which to power these facilities. Also, Yes, Sweden is not directly connected to the Arctic, however airbases in the north of Sweden can be utilized to reach the northwestern parts of Russia like Murmansk for instance. And yes, Norway does indeed wrap around the entirety of Scandinavia all the way up to bordering Russia.

[@casvanleeuwen5280]

Lol it’s kind of scary when you hear an American ask if a country has any oil or other natural resources

[@radradishradiator]

20:20 Sweden produces about 90% of Europe’s iron

[@kungsverige1886]

CV 90 Ghost tank...🇸🇪

[@qqchan]

You should check out “Neutrality in Europe after 2022” by kraut

[@chonabee6810]

I hate how people judge military strengh by men only. Say if 100k people with assault rifles and then on the other side a couple long distance missles, the men with assault rifles can't do much at all expect shotting blindly and trying to figure out where it is coming from. But when they do thousands of men has already died so men mean nothing much in war, sure it is a vital piece but it is a less important piece if u look at all the other important factors.

[@Belnick6666]

now Switzerland will get a WO and walk passed our record, meeeeh

[@stevethomas5849]

Expertise in military hardware.

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

If you put HIMARS on Gotland you could fire on Estonia.... It's that close. Oh! We already did...

[@MrIaninuk]

Turkey are still going ahead with vetoing Sweden's membership...so they ain't in yet.

[@emiljohansson2761]

Germany and USA colab to make the MBT Kpfpz 70 i think or MBT 70

[@jensandersson1147]

The best iron in the world, strongets steal. Gold/silver & energi from different xxx. We also produced this system, Archer "best artilleri in the wold", "best smart bullets/mostley used in the sea", Best Sea missiles "Gungir", Best Submarines & the best air to air missile "Meteor" aswell as the best nonstealth fighter Jas39gripen E, Best cv90 platform/nlaw/karl gustav and so on. Swe only do the top end stuff on everything. If you surch for different viking gods then u find Swe made weapons.

[@zilfversurfer2157]

One fact fault in the video. Sweden did in fact increased its spendings on the military after 2014 when russia took Crimea.

[@lordnilsson1]

First of all.... MONEY..! The question is.... what do we (Sweden) get for the big money..? Except less money to the people and the society......

[@nicholasuszko]

Eh, Germany had the best tanks for Germany. The Sherman was the best tank of ww2, massively upgradeable, could take on any German tank it faced, and was easily mass produced and shipped across oceans.

[@Bjowolf2]

Surströmning & fika = fermented fish ( a very potent chemical weapon - just watch the hilarious videos of poor unsuspecting foreigners trying to eat it 😂 ) & cozy coffee breaks with cake ☕🎂 😉 - just what the soldiers need during the battles 😂 sur-strömming = "sour-streaming"

[@miskbalder]

Take what I am about to say with a grain of salt When the war started in Ukraine I got a gut feeling that it might have been a plot in the higher order of schemes to get countries to join in under NATO a a small step in a longer vision of the "One world order" that they have been working towards, that is US and Russia working together and Putin wanting to leave a better footprint in the world than earlier leaders, that is without gaining immeditate glory to his name right after his death This is just a very vague hypothesis, a hunch from learning a lot of how the US has operated in the past, like for example how Al Qaeda and ISIS were a product of the CIA, a mistake on their part starting with "Operation Cyclone" which was meant to end the cold war but gave rise to extremist groups I am not trying to convince anyone that it is what is happening with Ukraine, just that it is not a negligible possibility since there has been proof of similar kinds of scheming before and a few hundred thousand deaths has never been a problem for world leaders if it is for the "greater good"

[@mrbrand4720]

38:00 Our military has not grown enough until 2028 to need the 2% .

[@casvanleeuwen5280]

You can conduct cyber warfare in a lot of ways. The most destructive would be civilian infrastructure to shutdown society. But it could also be hacking an enemy drone.

[@davidstjerndahl1475]

Only reason we aint in nato is cause 1 guy randomly without a good reason just started burning holy books

[@TheAtraxz]

34:14. You are reffering to the map whilst the earth actually is a globe.

[@RannonSi]

Pretty sure that a lack of capitalism isn't the problem ;) But yeah authoratism is one

[@NiclasHorn]

No, the 2.0% is mandatory, but there has been no consequences for not spending 2.0%, and Trump was the first American president trying to change that by threating that USA would be leaving NATO if other dident start spending the 2.0%.

[@oco8783]

The 2 percent doesn't really mean anything though

[@smaberg]

Not Saab engine in jas, I'm a swedish Saab lover

[@TheJube97]

It’s called gulf of Finland

[@Fridhemsken]

The US Navy is only number 4 (2464 aircrafts)on the list of largest airforces. The largest is US airforce (5217), followed by US Army airforce (4409)... Russias airforce is (was?) larger than the navys with 3863 crafts. But it depends on WHAT kind of crafts wich i "largest". Remember that the US airforce have more boats than the navy, since they have a lot of rubber dingies...

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Yes, Iceland is in NATO and to this day is only country in alliance without any military. They do have coast guard but that's about it. Did you just say Ukraine is waging war against Russia?

[@NiclasHorn]

Sweden has history with Russia, 14 wars with Russia, 7 wars we won, 7 we lost.