Commercial Scag vs Exmark vs Hustler who’s the King zero turn? Part 2

After running each of these mowers for several days, I still truly think the hustler is the best. It has the most robust hydraulic system of any mower on the market. Also the best warranty.
For weekly cuts in dry weather it would be hard to tell on cut quality between the 3. All these stripe very well. Exmark cuts clippings up well in dry conditions its deck is baffled more than hustler and scag. I did notice in wet both exmark and scag tend to clump after several passes because of the last baffle catching grass. Then when you make the deck bounce it would drop a pile of grass. All mowers will do this at some point and as a home owner id recommended never cut when wet. But a landscaping company will have to at some point. Hustler front end is nearly impossible to come up making it extremely stable.
All of these mowers are great and each have something unique about them.
Pros of each ⬇️
Exmark
Light weight
Easy maintenance
One fuel tank
Baffled deck for smaller weekly clipping
Scag
Duel purpose foot break
One fuel tank
Great ride
High discharge
Highest deck height I’ve seen ona mower
Hustler
Best ride
Breaks in handle bar no lever
Fastest
Best hydraulic system
Easy maintenance
Some more thoughts on the 23 scag turf tiger ⬇️
I did mow backwards and it leaves a trail on the left blade. Also notice that it tends to throw a lot of grass out of the front of the deck if it’s dry and thick. Like the hyperdrive it also lets the deck jump into lock position if you hit a bump at high speed. One thing I didn’t realize is I like the bolts better than chain on deck for the hills. It lets the deck shift and zag in really steep sideways stripes. Hard to explain but I can see in the line of stripes on my hill where the deck would slide sideways from leverage of weight. Making a curve in the stripe.

[@nathanhatcher7096]

If the Hustler had the earlier generation deck xr7 or the rear discharge deck it would be a no contest winner! Either way huslter super z 60" have serve me well since 2006, still impresses me every season! Thanks for sharing

[@americandream_89]

Hustler is hard to beat! I’ve never ran the old deck on a hustler. You feel like it cut better? Glad you enjoyed

[@nathanhatcher7096]

@@americandream_89 the xr7 deck was designed to work with hustler's bacvac collection systems and had angled baffles to improve improve air flow of cutting in wet, dry, or tall condition! Their deck design is what made it a beast! The rear discharge is amazing too just not able to use it with a collection system. Thanks

[@austiny528]

Out of these I would take the Exmark. I like the Toro/Exmark unitized parkers as a whole better than any drive system out there, they are powerful, reliable, and probably easier to work on than any other. I also love the weight balance of Toro/Exmark, light in the front means they handle a hill better in every regard other than going straight up and also means the front swings around easier. (Less likely to spin) Hustler would be my second pick and lastly the Scag. I feel like Scags spindle design, and overall build is outdated. I wouldn't have a mower with greasable spindles these days and I wouldn't touch that driveshaft deck with a 10' pole. (It takes more belts, more pulleys, a whole other spindle, and a whole gearbox). My favorite of all brands I've tried is Toro Z Master, a lot like the Exmark but a little less pricey spec for spec and imo a better deck.

[@americandream_89]

Exmark/toro makes a great mower. I truly think if you tested a hyperdrive in person you would have a hard time wanting that exmark.

[@austiny528]

@@americandream_89 I test drove one at equip expo, they drive nice for sure, Hustler is my number two right after the red ones. Really comes down to personal preference.

[@americandream_89]

@@austiny528 you going this year?

[@austiny528]

@@americandream_89 Planning on it!

[@soulja617]

That’s interesting I’m looking to get the freedom z scag to start off my lawn care business should I look at the ex mark instead then?

[@tonykourounblis1854]

Scab cut the best

[@FliGuyRyan]

You should look into the Country Clipper commercial line. 1. operates by linked joystick 2. deck can be lifted nearly vertical (and with a power tool) 3. front axle articulates in the very center so it can flow with the terrain

[@user-io2ym6gm8z]

I checked them out there is no dealer anywhere near. They are mostly in Kansas, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, and south Iowa. I can't have a dealer that I have to drive 200 miles to to get service. But their mower sounds like a good option if you're in one of these states.

[@shanepipkin4041]

with my experience the 7 iron 60 deere deck cuts field grass the best. it is the deepest most capacity and is a stamped 7 gauge which helps grass flow very well and discharge the best. deere did great engineering on that

[@americandream_89]

I didn’t test the Deere in the field grass but had another guy on here say they did really well also. The 2 best I’ve used would be the hyperdrive and cheetah

[@michaelbradley770]

While I agree that the JD has one of the best cutting machines out there but in my experience is the worst discharge of all the mowers I've demoed

[@jondirive]

I have a Hustler X-One and it's a beast of a mower. Cuts lawns like a carpet! No suspension though, beats me up on rough terrain. Looking at a Hustler X-Ride. The suspension platform is supposed to make a super smooth ride.

[@americandream_89]

@@jondirive I’ve got a ton of videos on here with the new xride platform

[@fredymorales5247]

I have a 2023 hyperdrive with a kawasaki 1000 and it is the best I have driven so far !!

[@americandream_89]

Agree 100%

[@fredymorales5247]

@@americandream_89 it's a super smooth, i have an exmark 2022 and it's like a board with wheels lol 😂

[@americandream_89]

@@fredymorales5247 I can’t agree more man. Exmark will make you old fast. They make a great cut and have simple design. I just can’t get over how stiff the driving and ride is.

[@kennyplay5982]

Hustler all the way

[@noahpeters010]

Exmark👍

[@Ccwm7089]

EXCELLENT again!! I’m like you, on the smaller Exmark engine, & it didn’t bog. On the noise, it very well could b the muffler? But possibly vertical shaft vs horizontal shaft may b another issue? 🤷🏼‍♂️ Your friend is exactly correct on the ride. Once you get used to a smoother ride, you pretty well require it after that. As he said, even the bushings on the Bad Boy took the shock & vibrations out. Great & equal comparison as always!! Keep ‘em comin!! Thx!

[@lukedawg357SIG]

Would a Grass hopper with the deck in front do better on hills? my land is in n Georgia with steep hills

[@rollinghillstrucking]

I've definitely been looking at the hustler brand for awhile now. I have an Ariens Icon XD 52". I'm just looking to upgrade. I like the hustler.

[@americandream_89]

Check your dealer and see if you can get a demo

[@danslawncare8594]

I run exmark because of the reliability and cuts beautiful.

[@americandream_89]

They do cut beautifully They ride like a wagon though

[@danslawncare8594]

@@americandream_89 I fill the rear tires with water and put 10.5 lbs of air . Makes a big difference

[@DoctorRickSanchez]

​@@danslawncare8594_You said water?_

[@danslawncare8594]

I said water

[@mitchpictish2250]

Would love to see how cub cadet pro z models stack up

[@americandream_89]

@@mitchpictish2250 I’ve got a full video on that.

[@americandream_89]

Hustler Hyperdrive vs Hustler super 104 vs Cud cadet SDL 972 vs Cub Cadet Surepath kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZbMmKp_htdgadU

[@johnnyashbrook1932]

Interested in knowing what happens with each on slope and drive belt breaks, what happens with each and which is safest? Do you have any input for this senerio? The hustler raptor I have, belt breaks, it free wheels, dangerous and trying to get the handles in place for brake, not easy and acag has foot break. Just looking for any information you may have.

[@americandream_89]

I’ve never seen one that would just free wheel smoothly. All the high end units I’ve used have some kind of back pressure. Most of the hydrogear units also have a switch or lever that has be released for neutral position or to get them to free wheel properly.

[@_Pat1984_]

I prefer Scag and or Wright stander here in the south east no one really runs sit down units much anymore there slower and take up more space on a trailer

[@americandream_89]

Scag makes a great machine. I’ve never understood the appeal of a sit down on big properties but so many have them.

[@_Pat1984_]

@@americandream_89 larger properties I’d prefer a 60 or 72 sit down unit but my 52” stand on scag gets most of everything done

[@tg0003bpa]

Keep up the good work!

[@kennyplay5982]

Hyperdrive, insane

[@Boudreaux911]

Just found and subscribed to your channel! I like watching when people review different mowers. What’s your opinion on Big Dog Diablo Mp 60? Is it made by Hustler? I’m kinda looking at buying one. From what I’ve read it’s similar to Hustler super z. Thanks for sharing video 👍

[@americandream_89]

Thanks for the sub buddy truly appreciate it. The mp60 is a great machine but not as smooth as the hyperdrive as they use a hydrogear pump. This will also run slower and have less down hill performance by a very slight difference. I prefer the look of tire on the big dog. It also has the grammar seat that isn’t as good as the hyperdrive seat. It would come down to cost per machine for my Decision. I think resale on the hyperdrive would also be more. I’ve never ran one just judging from spec and experience. Hopefully this helped

[@Boudreaux911]

@@americandream_89 Thanks for input👍 I enjoy watching your reviews 👍

[@coreyknochel7766]

Great job once again on your video! All 3 of those mowers are excellent machines. I have the SZHD, 66”, BV37 in my shop next to a Deere Z 970r, 72”, with the Kawasaki FX1000 35 Hp carb. The SZHD is considerably more comfortable than the Deere without question. If I’m mowing wet grass, or overgrown grass, I’ll go with the Deere every time. In normal cutting conditions, my SZHD, in my opinion, stripes much better and leaves a cut that equals or surpasses the Deere. A lot of comes down to personal preference and more importantly, dealer support. I am a big fan of all of those mowers and feel like the SZHD is really underrated! The fuel savings alone on that BV37 EFI is a big plus over the carb’d Kawasaki.

[@americandream_89]

@@coreyknochel7766 thanks buddy! Great info. Dealer and customer relation is probably the biggest factor to any lawn care company. Spot on info

[@Badeau68]

​@@americandream_89isn't big dog and Hustler made by the same manufacturer? I think it starts with E

[@jerryhenry662]

maybe hustler is best

[@LF12468]

Either that was a 32nd tape measure (which is a specialty tape btw), or you can't read a tape measure.

[@braydenlowe2024]

Can you please interview someone at the Massimo Motor Booth at Equip Exposition this year?

[@americandream_89]

I plan to. Any certain questions?

[@braydenlowe2024]

​@@americandream_89 Yes if there products are available for purchase in store at Tractor Supply and Lowe's and which Retailers are selling there products!

[@braydenlowe2024]

​@@americandream_89 And get information about all of the units at there Booth!

[@shanepipkin4041]

i will say the deere 900s are the smoothest hydrostatic i have rode i would like to ride the hyerdrive to compare this. they are tuff torq hydro but not fast on top end

[@americandream_89]

Nothing compares to a hyperdrive. It’s night and day difference. I love when people get on my hyperdrive after thinking they have a smooth machine.

[@shanepipkin4041]

@americandream_89 have you drove the deere

[@americandream_89]

@@shanepipkin4041 yeah, I have two videos of them on here compared to hyperdrive and my neighbor has one

[@shanepipkin4041]

@americandream_89 that's impressive I'll watch it

[@jerrydosser7031]

Where’s SCAG

[@americandream_89]

Where as in ?

[@paulbuckner375]

Why would you have any interest in a lawn mower to cut weeds 2 feet tall?

[@americandream_89]

@@paulbuckner375 people cut field grass all the time. Along with some yards that have been left for months.

[@ramirocortez6392]

👍 dixie chopper???😂😂😂 I know it would not hold that hill good but they are TANKS!!!😁 Always wanted to try a scag turf tiger but the closest dealership is 2 and a half hrs???

[@americandream_89]

I feel like Dixie chopper makes a great mower from a build stand point. They use very high end Parker hydraulics. I used that 2019 Dixie chopper classic in a 72” cut for a month or so. The center of gravity is off on them because of seat height and fuel tanks. If you had flat ground or even slightly hilly they make a great mower. We have a Hugh scag dealer 8 min from my house. Our best dealer here would be exmark. I go to church with the owners and know them very well. I wouldn’t buy a mower that was in dealer network over 45 min away. Just my recommendation

[@ramirocortez6392]

@@americandream_89 totally agree would definitely like to try a huslter also but no local dealer again? Great videos man !👍 you got a beautiful homestead!!! And family 👍

[@americandream_89]

@@ramirocortez6392 truly appreciate your support and comments. Even it’s a thumbs up. I know your supporting. I’ve got more coming.

[@williammeeker7626]

What the hell was that?! Lol

[@americandream_89]

What’s what?

[@calebdixon8311]

I run exmark lazer z x 801v and hustler hyperdrive 31 kawi and I can tell you from experience the exmark does better in certain conditions! If you are in dryer conditions hustler edges it out some bc they have more blade speed! Love them both but if I’m mowing wet grass exmark does not clump as bad as hustler! Another thing better with exmark is leaf clean ups it picks leaves up a lot better and it will do it in reverse just as good as forward and hustler nor scag does this worth a flip! So my pick is exmark but like I say it just really depends on the conditions! I have flex forks on hustler and exmark and they both ride good! Hustler is a longer machine therefore it rides a touch smoother

[@americandream_89]

Each machine has a strong suit cutting as you said. I’ve been told by many scag will not cut in reverse but haven’t had a issue with my hustler. I run high lift all year. What blades do you run? As far as ride it’s not even close between the 2 hustler is 10x better in any case. I’ve let so many people on my hustler that’s the first thing they notice is how smooth. The hustler also delivers hydraulic power so much smoother. Exmark is very jerky for someone that’s never ran one.

[@americandream_89]

Curious as to your opinion on stripe on the first pass? Which do you feel is better

[@shanepipkin4041]

exmark wins

[@americandream_89]

@@shanepipkin4041 what makes you think that?

[@calebdixon8311]

I think the exmark feels a lot rougher bc they come with solid tires! Sorry for the late reply! We have a good exmark dealer and we have a good hustler dealer here! They are both great mowers and they have their place! If you want to cut fast or in overgrown stuff hustlers wins hands down! Wished i would’ve bought exmark with the 921kawi! I have flex forks on both and I swear the difference is the hard solid tires! I want a different brand for each day of the week 😂! Where are you from by the way? And do you deal with Bahia grass?

[@billfarmer8654]

I appreciate your hard work but holes can be punched in all of your arguments. I say buy what you like because there isn't much difference between any of them.

[@americandream_89]

@@billfarmer8654 thanks. I would appreciate holes being punched in my arguments as that would make me retest to show better. I’m all for constructive criticism or feedback that’s factual. Thanks for watching

[@billfarmer8654]

@@americandream_89 When I see comparisons like yours I automatically look at the 'tests' performed. For example, did you run all three mowers at the exact same speed? You said two mowers had new blades and one had been sharpened recently. I don't really understand the tall grass cuts. I don't think any mower can cut that in one pass. You didn't mention the

[@americandream_89]

@@billfarmer8654 since a mower can’t be speed set one has to try to set them closely. Hustler has blades on it that have been sharpened multiple times. It’s my personal mower. The other 2 have brand new blades. The tall cut lets one see how much a mower can take on while giving a clean cut. Any one with a big landscape company has performed a field cut or clean up that wasn’t ideal grass. Non of what you said pokes holes in my assessment of these mowers. Hustler has the best hydraulic system, is faster and cuts anything you put in. All while riding smooth at 16mph. All mowers are great but spec for spec nothing beats hustler thus far. Keep in mind the hustler is taking on 6” more each cut.

[@hairycods2273]

Both machines exhaust out the same side as the discharge chute so maybe because the db reading was taken on the discharge side of scag it was louder and the hustler readings was on the opposite side maybe that effected the outcome… I don’t know enough about how sound travels only noticed the readings taken on the opposite sides…. my conclusion is that mowers are jus loud some are a little more throaty deeper tone and seem more tolerable for me and my preference.

[@americandream_89]

I did it again and got different results lol Hyperdrive vs turf tiger vanguard sound decibel reading kzbin.infoMqhYzTy6uck?feature=share Some times I feel like the hyperdrive is quieter then I don’t at times.

[@Lylahsoutdooradventures]

Cute kids!

[@americandream_89]

They a natural on camera 🤣

[@jasonlester7682]

I have the scag turf tiger and Exmark and in my opinion the Exmark is hands down better on a hill.

[@americandream_89]

Exmark does handle hills extremely well. Besides the front end coming up so easy. I think they do better than a turf tiger slightly down hill and sideways. But not going up

[@jasonlester7682]

I agree the front is lighter.

[@shanepipkin4041]

i would run the exmark out of these

[@americandream_89]

Why?

[@shanepipkin4041]

@@americandream_89 I like the kawasaki engines and the cut quality on exmark the way it stripes

[@americandream_89]

@@shanepipkin4041 you can get a Kawasaki from any brand