Americans Have Hit Hiryu The Last Of Our Carriers

[@WW2Tales]

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Part 7 (Second Last Part) of memoirs of Two Japanese naval aviators who participated in the Midway Operation and provided an unsparing analysis of what caused Japan's staggering defeat in this Operation. The first aviator led the first air strike on Pearl Harbor, commanded the Akagi carrier air group and later made a study of the battle at the Japanese Naval War College . The second aviator was one of Japan's first dive-bomber pilots, was aboard the light carrier Ryujo and later served as a staff officer in a carrier division. They were both key figures in the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War two. Here is the link of the playlist kzbin.info/aero/PLGjbe3ikd0XHOEvJ_fiy9mB66QYTadhKc Link of Part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmGWaqCqacuDbNU Link of Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-8n2tmpK-Zqs0 Link of Part 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6DWeaGQe5yGpNU Link of Part 4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGW6pI1rl7x9kNU Link of Part 5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3q4gGeEh8l8lc0 Link of Part 6 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKPSlnxrftd1bpI

[@matthewnewton8812]

I just want to say- even though I love your readings and I come to these videos regularly to consume your content- if you are reading from Fuchida’s post-war memoirs (which I think you are, partly) a lot of research which has been done recently by John Parshall et. al has proven (to a degree that’s now being accepted by the major historians) that a lot of Fuchida’s analysis is unreliable. For example, we are told that one of the primary reasons for the success of the Americans second strike is that the Japanese were caught launching their planes; yet if one looks at the pictures of the Japanese carriers’ flight decks the Americans snapped during the attack there’s not a single plane on deck. Parshall provides a whole host of reasons why Fuchida gets this wrong, and what the better more logical reasons are (such as the Japanese Combat Air Patrol having traded all their height for energy during the first strike and being too low to effectively confront the second attack; some of them even flew up INTO THEIR OWN AA FIRE in order to attempt an intercept), in his book Shattered Sword. It’s worth noting that his position has been the accepted doctrine among Japanese scholars for several decades now. Anyway I love your channel. This is just a minor criticism.

[@Nowyn]

This is what I dont get about youtube comments in general and comments on this channel, like reading and listening comprehension is no longer taught in schools or a thing anymore in general. The name of the channel is "WW2 Tales" which means they are retelling someone's perspective. Its not a documentary, its telling the tales that a world war 2 person is giving. It doesnt need to be 100 percent accurate. Its recollections and like all recollctions that are human based - will be inaccurate. So take it for what its worth, enjoy the recollection/memoirs and see how it is from another perspective, even if its not 100 percent correct.

[@billotto602]

Thank-you. I'm going to save these in order to be watched many times in order. You've done a spectacular job & done a tremendous service by creating & distributing these incredible glances into a historic time for both countries. God bless you sir. 🫡 🇯🇵 🇺🇸

[@jonathansabrosky6508]

I have lived in Japan for over 40 years, and these are fascinating accounts of the war from Japan's perspective. Never have I come across anything like it in English.

[@gunbutter830]

Defeat leads to introspection. Victory has a thousand fathers while defeat is an orphan. Sadly, victory in the aftermath of the war led the US with a head full of sunshine without the necessary introspection about what it all meant. The surviving Japanese veterans had time and need to ponder their actions.

[@ToddBrooks-o5m]

Who else would you expect to get a Japanese perspective from ?? I mean really .

[@Wolvieonepunch]

And you won't, they still deny all kinds of horrible s**t they did

[@johnkessler9878]

One of the biggest mistakes made by the Japanese during the war was their failure to rotate their best pilots back home to train new pilots. The Americans did this and it gave them a great advantage as the war progressed.

[@luckyguy600]

The Japanese ' best' were all on the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. In, shall we be generous, in 2 days. YES!

[@deguello66]

It wasn't just the pilots that were rotated back. The entire squadron were rotated. The aircraft crews experience was just as important as the pilots. These aircraft service crews trained the new crews. The cooks trained the new cooks. The security forces .....you get the idea. So the USA could train better squadrons, faster, and with field experience drilled into new squadrons that could be fielded much quicker and more easily into theater operations.

[@ThunderStruck94660]

You are absolutely right.

[@James-kk8dw]

@@deguello66 you mentioned the cooks. Probably the most under appreciated job in yeh entire military. I wasn’t a cook but a simple mechanic and I cannot tell you how moral rose when we finally got hot chow in the middle of nowhere Saudi Arabia . Thanks cooks, y’all are great

[@robwalsh9843]

Not just fighter pilots, but also their best special operations guys, jungle warfare troops, frogmen, submarine crews, etc. The Japanese just burned through them.

[@stevewixom9311]

The destroyer Hammon was the ship that picked my father out of the water in the Coral Sea after his ship USS Lexington had to be abandoned. He always remembered out friendly and generous the Hammons crew had been.

[@mmarsh1972]

Small correction. The damage to Yorktown was serious but not fatal. Before her ill timed encounter with I-168 her list had been somewhat corrected and the repair crew has successfully drained alot of water out of her engineering spaces. I am certain that if the Japanese submarine not found her, she would have likely made it back to Pearl.

[@katherineberger6329]

As generous as it was to the United States, to this day, the decision of Admiral Yamaguchi to go down with Hiryu astounds me. You are not some random sailor. You are an admiral of your Navy, and an incredibly young man for your rank. You are one of the most skilled carrier officers of your navy, and a man who has deep and personal knowledge of the enemy. Your duty to your country is to transfer your flag to another ship, leave the dying hulk of your carrier to die, and live to fight another day.

[@outdoorsforachange]

Hard to argue against your point.

[@PlymouthVT]

It astounds you because you know nothing about the Japanese in 1944. Like all Japanese Yamaguchi was part of a cult. He actually believed as most Japanese did then there dipshit Emperor came down from the heavens and he has failed that Holy Emperor. A cult that was constantly reinforced just like Trump's cult.

[@xisotopex]

yeah, its difficult to understand this mentality, even a moments consideration by someone like a pilot, should reveal many good reasons not to do anything suicidal, it will negatively impact your countries ability to fight considerably. the japanese seem particularly stricken with this mentality

[@mad_max21]

The Japanese were willing to die for their country. The Americans obliged.

[@brushhogg1]

He lost face u see...

[@2Oldcoots]

Thank You so much for preserving this precious history!

[@WW2Tales]

Our pleasure Sir

[@gowdsake7103]

You are thanking a robot ?

[@eamonhunt8781]

They weren't afraid of dying, they were afraid of losing their honor. That cost them dearly. The senior officers were raised by medieval people.

[@SeattlePioneer]

[@jeffpotipco736]

They had anti aircraft guns around a park in Tokyo because it had sacred trees. Total different mindset.

[@leinie6683]

@@SeattlePioneer AMericans believe in Pattons philosophy- Dont die for your country, make the other son of a bitch die for his

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Let me guess on of the Midway movies? Jonas Bros one?

[@hughmcginley8929]

Clearly the Japanese did not know their enemy well enough. The German’s made the same mistake. The USA soldiers, sailors, marines and aviators were underestimated totally. It was a type of arrogance on the part of Japan that backfired hugely.

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Yeah Java Sea. Santa Cruz Savo Island Tassforonga. Thought Bots were Better Read than this!

[@woodspirit9973]

Thank for these posts. I look forward to them each day.

[@WW2Tales]

@woodspirit9973 Sir thank you so much for your kind words and support ,we are highly obliged and grateful to you

[@bonetiredtoo]

One important aside: it was during the raid on Dutch Harbour that a Zero crash landed, killing the pilot. This, the Akutan Zero as it became known, was returned to flight and extensively tested in the US and influenced the design of future US carrier aircraft including the Hellcat. It was a major coup for the Allies.

[@larryramsey6892]

The Hellcat prototype first flew on June 26th, not even 2 weeks after the crash. The recovered Zero had nothing to do with the Hellcat but was useful for developing tactics.

[@ohyeahwhat5387]

@@larryramsey6892 But the first Hellcat flight was with the Wright engine. I believe the testing of the Zero and pilot analysis of that first flight convinced Grumman to replace the Wright with the Pratt & Whitney R2800.

[@stevek8829]

Why do you “believe” it? Facts are more important. The OP here was spouting bull.

[@adamh.2791]

@stevek8829 He is largely right, except the design of the Hellcat which did get some minor modifications right away and major ones later because of what was found. However, the greatest thing about finding that downed zero was that 3.5 months after it was shot down, we had repaired it and discovered every weakness it had, including how its armor was sacrificed for maneuverability. It indeed was one of the largest coups of the war, as we could train our pilots exactly what to do when in a dogfight with a Zero. They lost their maneuverability advantage if you dove and caused them to go over 200 knots, so you could essentially escape one on your tail. It was also discovered that the engine had a flaw that caused it to shut down easily during negative acceleration and it could not roll to the right very well, another tidbit of info we used to devastating effect. It also spelled out exactly what type of speed and maneuverability we needed to accomplish with our more heavily armored planes to gain the advantage, which we did not long after. This event directly led to the Mariana’s “turkey shoot” in June 44 where we absolutely crippled the rest of the Japanese navy’s numbers. In other words, almost everything he said was absolutely correct. Google is free, so next time do some research before dragging someone’s comment thru the mud because you don’t know what you are talking about.

[@stevek8829]

@@adamh.2791 Chenault and the Flying Tigers had explored the Zero’s strengths and weaknesses, thus developing proper tactics, long before the US even entered the war. Dutch Harbor didn’t happen till mid 42. You missed that part. I didn’t have to do research, this stuff is common knowledge. Someone over emphasized the importance of that Zero and you googlers suck it up. You might enjoy reading “God is my Co-pilot.” Get some zero fighting tactics from the horses mouth. From Wiki: “Some historians dispute the degree to which the Akutan Zero influenced the outcome of the air war in the Pacific. For example, the Thach Weave, a tactic created by John Thach and used with great success by American airmen against the Zero, was devised by Thach prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor, based on intelligence reports on the Zero's performance in China. Naval pilots who fought the Zero at Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcanal without the benefit of test reports would beg to differ with the contention that it took dissection of Koga's Zero to create tactics that beat the fabled airplane. To them the Zero did not long remain a mystery plane. Word quickly circulated among the combat pilots as to its particular attributes. Indeed on 6 October while testing the Zero, Akutan Zero test pilot Frederick M. Trapnell made a highly revealing statement: 'The general impression of the airplane is exactly as originally created by intelligence-including the performance'. Thanks for sharing your brilliant scholarship.

[@gregcollins7602]

These Japanese narratives are great. Hope to hear more.

[@donwayne1357]

Yo-go yoshi.

[@luckyguy600]

Well they are brutally honest. And they could see the disaster ever so slowly come down on their fleet & destroy it Boom times 4.

[@richardthornhill4630]

Incredible description of Japan's worst naval defeat. Japan never recovered from the lost of 4 carriers and the many of Japan's best pilots and best trained carrier crews.

[@bclmax]

pilot losses were not that great...that pool was drained over the slot. but the loss of the carriers and mechanics was more devastating

[@MinhNguyen-cn8kx]

Fantastico hiriyu.... Respect from Vietnam.. Allahu akhbar

[@philipmiller2618]

The shock of the Japanese at losing the Battle of Midway with devastating losses in carriers must have been equal to the Americans at Pearl Harbor. Midway was a devastating upset win for the Americans. Midway may not have turned the tide in the Pacific but it did buy the Americans time. It also stopped the Japanese advance across the Pacific. It also reset the balance of power between the Japanese and the Americans. Midway was in the top three naval battles in WW2. It truly was an "Incredible Victory". A great book in it's own right.

[@GH-oi2jf]

It did turn the tide. After Midway, the United States had the initiative.

[@davidcoleman2796]

Never forget what the Japanese did to the American flyers and sailors that they picked up in the water , they tortured them and killed them brutally . I am. Only interested in this for historical reasons. It's for the same reason that I visited Japan. That and it's beauty. It's nature .

[@donwayne1357]

Pikashu.

[@SecNotSureSir]

Also worth noting, during one of the battles off Guadalcanal, a Japanese sailor on a life boat collected wounded American and Japanese survives from the water, and then tended to them the best he could. That actually surprised me when I read it in Neptunes Inferno.

[@davidcoleman2796]

@@SecNotSureSir there are good men in every race .

[@robwalsh9843]

Modern Japan is a different nation though. The JSDF is not the IJA. Even former victims of Japanese aggression like Filipinos, Vietnamese, etc. are fairly friendly with Japan today in the face of China.

[@Cybernaut76]

Humane treatment of Allied POWs could have saved a lot of Japanese soldiers that became POWs of Americans. "You get what you order and pay the price" is a Finnish saying

[@Bob.W.]

Getting weird at 23:00. Went back a day. Guess it's the battle from Yamamoto's view.

[@luckyguy600]

What a fantastic, beautiful "F "up Reading about the critical battle of Midway always thrills me no matter how many times I read about it. In 5 minutes the War in the Pacific was set in stone. In all of WWII, it stands out as #1 And for the powerful Japanese forces that day. Soo Solly.

[@flag5enemyinsight397]

I think if I was Admiral Yamaguchi, I would have given a direct order to Tomonaga to change planes. You just saw experienced flight leaders die on three other carriers that day. You have to think about rebuilding tomorrow.

[@The2ndFirst]

That was not a consideration.

[@centariprime9959]

When I watched Midway and the admiral chose to go down with his ship, I thought that was utterly foolish. His skill, experience, and leadership would have helped the Japanese.

[@nancygrote742]

I know, but that is what happens when you have 20th century technology in the hands of a10th century society.

[@tbm3fan913]

I will say it was always very considerate that the upper level Naval officers elected to go down with their ships rather than living. Kind of penny wise and pound foolish yet to the advantage of the U.S. Navy. Also this idea that they thought they could get into a surface duel against fleet carriers was ludicrous. The fleet carriers could do in excess of 30 knots which was faster than most all Japanese BBs. These carriers were not the escort carries of Taffy 3.

[@jmrodas9]

For me it is indeed enlightening to know the Japanese story of the battle. I had only listened or read American versions. Besides being actually present in one of the sunk carriers, he knows better what went on, in them. So I believe this version more than others which are simple assumptions of what the enemy orders were, and what actually happened.

[@xyzabc4574]

Yorktown saved American biscuits multiple times by being a resilient punching bag. Japan thought she had been sunk, what? 7 times? As 3 different carriers?

[@208transparency4]

Japanese intelligence, just like their AA capabilities were a complete joke

[@hacc220able]

The suicidal propensity of the Japanese soldiers and leaders consumed untold brave soldiers and in the end served no real purpose. I hope there are not many nations that carry on this devastating anomaly - thanks for sharing.

[@oldmech619]

Same thoughts. Served no purpose.

[@Privat2840]

From Patton or at least the movie: Not one dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country he won a war by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.

[@polarvortex3294]

If you listen closely, to this and other accounts of Japanese suicidal bravery, those left behind were almost always inspired and moved by what they'd witnessed, which no doubt inspired them to greater effort and sacrifice themselves. And if similar feelings were roused in hearts of those who merely heard of the sacrifices made, then it might be said that acts of bravery helped to boost the spirit of all of Japan. You saw something like this happen on the American side when the men on Wake Island fought to the end, and in modern times when the soldiers in Mariupol fought to the last cartridge. So there's that. There's also a military value that accrues to planners and commanders when you can rest assured that units and men assigned to tasks and missions will undoubtedly give their all, whether on offense or defense. Plus, fighting suicidally undoubtedly slows and disconcerts the attacking enemy, and promotes the impetus of the attack. Indeed, even in the battle of Midway, American, basically suicidal, air attacks, helped pave the way for the sinking of the Japanese carriers. Really, I don't know how you can say a spirit of sacrifice "serves no purpose" in war.

[@jimsmith9819]

theres a difference between fighting to the end and committing suicide to " preserve your honor"@@polarvortex3294

[@decimated550]

think of Islam and it's suicide bombers. Irrational rigid murderous ideologies in both the Japanese of world war II and the islamist of well of all time

[@54blewis]

The lost of Adm.Yamaguchi was a serious blow to the IJN,he was perhaps the most effective and the most insightful of Japanese navy’s senior officers,he would have been (arguably)the obvious replacement to Yamamoto…..Nagumo was a taciturn and conservative commander and seems to become somewhat indecisive to the point of paralysis when stressed…his obsession with neutralizing Midway’s defense mitigated against an immediate and aggressive response to the presence of an American carrier task force in close proximity.As always with war,unforeseen circumstances,lack of accurate,timely information,poor,inadequate intelligence…..above all a inflexible adherence to a strict strategic and tactical doctrine plays heavily in the outcome of a battle…..

[@Mark0003260]

Nagumo had 4 fleet carriers, the best trained naval air force, and a report of only one enemy carrier. It wasn't until the final attack that they knew there was more than one enemy carrier. Why not blame Japanese naval intelligence for not realizing their code had been broken when US carriers showed up at Coral Sea. Too many what-ifs.

[@54blewis]

@@Mark0003260 wasn’t laying blame but remarking about Nagumo’s mindset and command style, and I did mention the overall structure of the Japanese naval system and it’s rigidity,the lack of timely and reliable intelligence reports and the general confusion that’s prevalent in practically all wars….

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Dishonored by staying with his ship and all!

[@54blewis]

@ it’s extremely doubtful that his officers and men saw it that way ,nor did the rest of the fleet ,quite the contrary what he did was considered by the Japanese as the height of honor,he was held as a hero by the Combined Fleet Command and staff..

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

@54blewis Breaking new ground.

[@greathornedowl3644]

I have read several accounts of the Battle of Midway and have questions: 1) why did the Hiryu shorten the distance between them and the Americans instead of launching and running? 2) did the Hiryu get off two strikes before the Americans launched one sinking the Hiryu? 3) what happened to the planes on Midway Island, they disappeared after the morning missed strikes

[@WW2Tales]

Gentlemen are you still facing sound issue or its fixed now ????????

[@mikespangler98]

Sound is fixed.

[@MF-le7fp]

Just started to listen, and it all seems good to me.

[@edroosa2958]

Sounds good to me. 👍

[@WW2Tales]

thanks to everyone for the feedback :)

[@konekillerking]

In the name of saving Face, the IJN lost officers that would have possible had a huge impact on the course of the war in the Pacific.

[@Mark0003260]

Japan could never win as long as the US and its massive industrial advantage was willing to fight. That was the whole Japanese strategy of Kantai Kessen - a decisive battle that would make the US decide not to continue the war. Look at the number of Essex class carriers that were available at the end of the war. Japan was hoping to remove US carriers from the Pacific and consolidate its island holdings such that America taking them back would cost too much. Had the US lost at Midway, it might have taken three years for the US Navy to have the capability to go on the offensive. In the meantime, Japan would have added to its navy as well.

[@huckleberryoutfitters7051]

They could have inflicted more casualties but the end result of the war in the Pacific was never in doubt. It was a numbers game

[@prestonphelps1649]

Its important to remember Japan had a huge percentage of their troops tied up in china/ mongolia/ korea.

[@drakenred6908]

Japan had a couple of disadvantages. Car and farm tracktors was low pre war, enem by axis standards, meaning that more time was needed to train even basic mechanics. Second training focused on doing your job and only your job. Americans expected that if you were incapable of doing your primary job you piched in where you were. By midway american ships carried more portable emergency and repair equipment, including rescue breathers that had been developed originaly for mining, shoring, tools, and self powered portable pumps than had been stocked before pearl harbor. In fact a number of changes came about because of reports from the RN before pearl, along weith reports from earlyer in the war.

[@philipmiller2618]

The Pacific Theater of WW2 was a clash of cultures, East versus West. Many aspects of how the two sides fought were opposites. Fascinating how most history books ignore this very important factor.

[@hockema56]

... which books would these be? I've lost count of how many books I've read about ww2 and not a single one neglected to emphasize the cultural gulf between Japan and the western allies.

[@jeromebarry1741]

A very happy story.

[@alanb76]

about 24 minutes in the audio reverts to a much earlier script.

[@zogzog1063]

In my opinion the best option for the Hiryu is just to F off. This is the opinion of the authors of Shattered Sword. This is the presently (at 2024) definitive account from the Japanese point of view (despite the American authors). But given the second attack on the Yorktown the the next best course of action is still to just bugger off. Go away and at all costs save a carrier for the future defence of Japan. (Again the opinion of Shattered Sword). It is now likely that Hiryu will be found and attacked but the range is increased and just maybe she will escape. Of course the Fog of War is a reality and who knows what may have happened and who knows without the wisdom of hindsight what the best course of action was. Shattered Sword is a literally (as in literature) tour de force. Not only that it is a gripping read but a real insight into Japanese Naval Doctrine.

[@lamwen03]

They thought that one of the two ( or perhaps 3 ) carriers had already been sunk.

[@JCGIncorporated]

I love the narrator. Is it AI or a real person reading. He never makes a mistake.

[@mwduck]

I vote AI. Some pronunciation is way off.

[@freddakin7119]

I’ve played a was game of Midway. I learned it made no sense not to focus the fleet into a powerful single force. Yamato and should have been with the carriers. Musashi too. All the capital ships would have given the carriers a huge amount of anti aircraft support. It was overwhelming in the games.

[@WW2Tales]

@freddakin7119 Sir the analysis in our upcoming video(will be uploaded in a short while) seconds you

[@robertf3479]

I've played it as well while part of a 'Wargaming' club on the U.S. side back around 1980. My group won easily the first time we played as the Japanese side decided to operate much as the Japanese had. We actually delayed making our first attack choosing instead to thoroughly scout out the Japanese side. The Japanese landing force in the game was represented by the single cruiser Atago. Once we located it, still alone we won the game by sinking her and thus destroying the reason for the battle. We lost 2 of the 3 USN carriers and sank only one Japanese carrier.

[@Treklovful]

Don't forget, that the Japanese thought that their attack would be a surprise....

[@AnthonyAshworth-m3t]

Sound is awesome! 🖤🐈‍⬛🖤

[@WW2Tales]

Glad you think so!

[@ducttapetech9885]

I always thought the Japanese name 'Abe' was pronounced 'Ah bay' but could be wrong. Great accounts from the Japanese perspective, thanks for putting these out.

[@MarcG7424]

You're not wrong

[@mwduck]

AI misses a lot of nuance.

[@exiledscouser919]

Working just fine - thank you.

[@WW2Tales]

thank you sir

[@bluetopguitar1104]

Losing experienced officers because of a defeat was criminally irresponsible.

[@Steuben1978]

now it works....sound is back...Thank you

[@WW2Tales]

@Steuben1978 Sir ,You're welcome and we are really sorry for the inconvenience :)

[@Dav1Gv]

Very interesting. While I'm happy the Japanese were defeated the US had a lot of luck when you think of the somewhat chaotic way their attack on the carriers were made with air groups losing contact with each other on the way to attack and, I seem to remember, some only finding the fleet because they spotted a destroyer going at speed to regain contact.

[@duanerice-mason2115]

HAVE THE JAPANESE EVER CONSIDERED THAT BY PRESERVING THEIR LIVES THEY COULD POSSIBLY KILL MORE ENEMIES OF THE JAPANESE EMPIRE?😅😊

[@ducttapetech9885]

Thanks!

[@WW2Tales]

@ducttapetech9885 Sir, Thank you so much for your generous support! 🙏 Your Super Thanks means a lot to us. Your contribution helps us continue creating content . We are highly grateful and obliged ,stay blessed dear Sir 🌹

[@davidlj53]

This episode seems a mix of the last episode

[@jcg1576]

There Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor for all the damage it did missed the most important targets which were out at sea that being the American Carrier Fleet. That combined with USA’s efforts to rotate and train new pilot squadrons was the biggest mistake of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. It also didn’t help the Japanese to have the big Red circles on their Aircraft carriers which made them easy targets to spot. The Japanese awoke a sleeping giant of nation whose resolve and ability to strike back was severely underestimated.

[@jbar19]

The audio file seems to be incorrectly edited. The battle is almost over and then the audio talks about preparing for the attack. Am I the onl6 one who is hearing this?

[@WW2Tales]

@jbar19 Madam we did not make any changes ,the story of battle has been covered in this exact way in memoirs

[@jbar19]

@@WW2Tales ok. Thank you. I must have gotten confused.

[@TangomanX2008]

I can hear it now. Thank you.

[@WW2Tales]

Sir thank you for the feedback 🙏

[@Aubury]

Not just the carriers, the premier pilots and hanger crews. The Doolittle raid was a fuse that lead to the destruction of Kidō Butai..

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

STUNT!

[@shootfirst2097]

21:40 Why does the video go from the beaten Japanese force being soundly beaten and retiring to starting the whole battle from the start again?

[@brianrunnels]

It picks up from a portion of the previous episode. I left a comment as well.

[@WW2Tales]

@shootfirst2097 Dear Sir ,we have not made any changes, just shared the battle in the sequence it was shared in memoirs ,still we will be even more careful in our future uploads ,kind regards Sir

[@mikespangler98]

Japanese torpedoes were certain to get a hit at 1900 yards. American torpedoes, not so much.

[@ETLee-db6cn]

Oh, they'll hit, just not explode. (US torpedoes, that is.)

[@riverlady982]

21:21 " finally chose the wiser course " 😕 seriously, what an understatement. 🙄😒

[@mkat740]

I actually think that if the Japanese went all out with surface ships and went to Midway and bombarded it and wiped out the airfields offensive power that the 2 remaining USA carriers had such few planes left that even their air strikes on the attacking Japanese fleet could not have stopped the Japanese from landing their troops. Also the 2 light carriers at max speed to midway form the Aleutians to use their small number of planes to support the landing troops would have been helpful and then when they took midway airfield they could have left those light carrier planes on midway and went back to Japan to shuttle new ones back to midway. The only planes on the 2 USA carriers wouldve been almost whittled away and they would have had to retire to Pearl Harbor for new planes and crews while the Japanese shuttle more planes to midway from Japan. The long range bombers from Pearl Harbor could only have bombed the Midway airfield and they were useless against moving ships.

[@RexKarrs]

Midway to Pearl Habor is a much shorter distance than Midway to Japan. With two fleet carriers left, the US planes would've arrived first. Midway was also within B-17 range of Pearl Harbor. The Japanese invasion troops might've received a warm welcome.

[@mkat740]

@@RexKarrs B17 strikes did not score any hits ships. There useless as the record shows in attacking naval ships from way up. The J battleships and cruisers would have wrecked the airfield with their guns. Or they could have landed their troops and ferried planes to Midway from Japan. I think they still had a chance but the loss of the carriers was a blow and shock to them. The two USA carriers were low on strength. They wouldve had to retire some ways to get fresh planes and pilots. Almost all of the torpedo bombers were gone and they had dive bombers and they has losses too.

[@RexKarrs]

@@mkat740 Still would take less time to get planes from Pearl Harbor than it would from Yokosuka, right? Would a contested troop landing have been more successful than the first troop landing on Wake Island? Would Yamamoto want J battleships under contested airspace with no cover until the Yokosuka deliveries arrived, or would he have worried about them meeting the same fate as Prince of Wales and Repulse? Would they have wrecked the Midway airfields any worse than they wrecked Henderson Field later on, after multiple attempts?

[@SeattlePioneer]

> They had sufficient strength to sink the fourth Japanese carrier the next day. The Japanese really had no idea of what American forces might have been brought to bear. You recommend just the kind of go for broke action that is discussed in the video. And rejected.

[@bclmax]

mute point...japan was going to lose the war either way based on industrial output.

[@brianrunnels]

Seems this clips to the previous episode @ 21 minutes. Was there more of pt. 1 of 2? Or will pt2 pick up where intended? Edit; I think the first 21 mins should be added to the end of the clip, it’s out of order. It happens!

[@WW2Tales]

@brianrunnels Dear Sir ,we have not made any changes, just shared the battle in the sequence it was shared in memoirs ,still we will be even more careful in our future uploads ,kind regards Sir

[@ExploreGamesAndMore]

Looks ok, but far too many ads has ruined it

[@joergmaass]

When aggressive spirit is paired with a lack of logical thinking and military competence, you get the kind of outcome that Japan did out of the battle of Midway. To risk the remaining carrier in a fruitless attack on a superior force and to torpedo your own destroyer...

[@kieranh2005]

Sounds fine on my phone.

[@WW2Tales]

@kieranh2005 Sir thank you so much for the feedback ,actually a lot of people were complaining ,so we had to delete it and then reupload

[@johndouglass3377]

there is neve ONE word about the other crew member of his plane. Was he not also brave. Did that man also know he was not coming back.

[@dirkellis9212]

In their hurry to honor the emperor with sacrificing their life they depleted their experience and leadership Japan never had a chance

[@jbar19]

The audio first messes up the narrative just before minute 23.

[@mikaelcrews7232]

Tomonga was a warrior idiot! You don't go into battle with a broken weapon!! It was also reported that Jimmy Thatch shot him down right when he entered the intense fire from The Yorktown! And I think they gave him the credit for it as well!? Admiral Yamaguchi was a good commander but had a temper that kept him from being a better commander. But look at it this way!? The Japanese commanders Yomamoto was an intelligent man and was highly educated! Admiral Nagumo was was tough minded but was knocked out of his strength very easily and it would be his downfall. Admiral Yamaguchi was had a temper but was very intelligent similarly to Yomamoto! Look at there opposite numbers! Nimitz was intelligent and always longed for home but followed his own orders! Fletcher liked having a drink know and again also he didn't give what his place in history would be, but listened to his subordinates! Spruance ran a quiet bridge and didn't allow anyone to yell on his bridge and also listen to his subordinates! Hear is the conclusion I came up with! The Japanese didn't listen to anyone subordinate and the battle of Midway was doomed to fail before it was started! While the American Navy listened to there subordinates at every turn before the battle during and after the battle! One more thing that always makes me think about this battle! Fletcher asked one of his subordinates that he would give his retirement money to know what Yomamoto and Nagumo were doing at that moment!? His subordinate said: the same thing were doing sir, waiting to see what happens next!

[@m2heavyindustries378]

Yikes can you use proper English punctuation? It's easy, just don't use !!! exclamation marks !!! fore every damn sentence, they teach that in school...

[@mikaelcrews7232]

@@m2heavyindustries378 I flunked English in highschool........

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

Like Magic and Bird?

[@siliconvalleyengineer5875]

The war was lost for the japanese even before their attack on pearl harbor. The US Navy had cracked their communication codes and were reading their morsecode communications-battle plans in real time.

[@davidlj53]

He says Japanese fire power was superior to the American force but they got their butts kicked. Interesting way of seeing things.

[@Bazerkly]

Excellent 🤔

[@WW2Tales]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@010bobby]

Why is Adm Yamamoto with his battleships group was 800 miles behind Nagumo carrier force? He should have been near and attack with his battleships and cruisers the US carrier force ..

[@Paul-zf8ob]

Yamamoto put together a stupid plan! His far superior navy was all over the place. Two smaller carriers in the Aleutians. His 5 or 6 battleships were way behind his carriers. He should have had his battleships in front of the carriers to attack the American carriers the minute they were detected! He wasn’t a great commander like everyone said! Over confident!

[@Mark0003260]

@@Paul-zf8ob The original plan had all 6 fleet carriers at Midway until they had to refit after the Coral Sea. The idea behind keeping his battleships behind was likely that when the American carriers finally showed up (they were still supposed to be hundreds of miles away) this would also be around the time the Japanese battleships would show up, surprise the American fleet and do a mopping up operation while the American carriers are forced to stay in the area so their planes have a place to land.

[@onastick2411]

They would nt have got within 100 miles of the American carriers before being detected and subjected to intense air attack.

[@bclmax]

@@Paul-zf8obbecause he had to make a deal with the army...the army forced the aleutian operation.

[@tolik5929]

They had another one , the Shinano , a super carrier , it was sunk on its way out from Japan , by a US submarine . It didnt a compliment of aircraft , had an inexperienced crew and wasnt 100% complete internally . The thing was huge though . Got hit by four torpedos . Investigation by Japanese command , stated that , so many mistakes were made , that it was impossible to assign blame for the loss .

[@SpenzOT]

It was interesting because Shinano, being a Yamato hull, should have been able to shrug off these hits, but because it was unfinished, none of the watertight doors were seal tested, and the openings for the wiring and service pipes were not sealed either. In that condition, any hit that could open even a single compartment would have sunk Shinano.

[@tolik5929]

Perhaps , but Capt Abbe , was under the inpression it was more complete than it was . Only reason they moved it , was because of allied bombing danger . @@SpenzOT

[@jumpdawg799]

Fixed. Thank you

[@WW2Tales]

@jumpdawg799 Sir thank you for the feedback ,regards 🙏

[@WilliamSmith-zk4tj]

Here again is an example of the United States Navy's damage control and Design although they weren't able to save the ship due to them taking the damage of the first strike under control and getting the ship under pause the Japanese to believe that they had some two carriers I believe that this was a critical aspect of the beginning of the war Time After Time critical units in ships that should have been sunk or at least taken out of service for years return to service sometimes within weeks I truly believe that welding torches and fire hoses played as much as critical aspect of the beginning as the aircraft that flew off the ships

[@agbottan]

Admiral Oishi should never jump off the ship into the sea. All the sharks would try to eat him because he was "oishii".

[@-PanzerRabbit-]

Lol ! Very good 👍

[@galenhaugh3158]

Great men working for the devil are not great men.

[@Detroitdiesel285]

Half measures cost the Japanese a lot. Thank god they made these mistakes.

[@010bobby]

Useless land bombers and torpedo planes.. out of 70 torpedoes not one register all missed against large Japanese aircraft carriers …

[@supremecaffeine2633]

Doesn't help that the MK14 torpedoes were absolute trash. One of them even did a U-Turn and destroyed the USN most successful submarine.

[@erichughes284]

Our torpedos were faulty they often ran too deep or didnt detonate when they did hit.They were also easy to see so they would just turn to avoid them.They were mostly shot down before they got in range so many were dropped too early.But the torpedo planes drew the fighters down enabling the dive bombers to accurately drop their bombs.

[@bclmax]

dont forget the IJN had been doing operations of war for over a year. USN was still green

[@Paul-zf8ob]

Couldn’t they put fuel tanks on his plane?

[@harleybenton3382]

I wonder what the Japanese is for “ hey, boss we are f**cked is”?

[@johnshields6852]

An airplane is built by 100's of people that takes a long time to build, flying a plane into the enemy is stupid.

[@johndouglass3377]

Why didnt the japanese keep the battleships with the carrier, they could have give the american flyers 2 targets to consider, go after the battleships and they carriers get us , go after the carriers and the battleships close with us

[@bclmax]

diff speeds

[@yannistsili6585]

The Japanese were too eager to die for the Emperor, and thus their country lost important warriors. That was wrong because war is not a 100 m run but rather a Marathon.

[@admiralbeez8143]

By June 1942 the Japanese should have obtained naval air search radar from Germany.

[@zipzonker1576]

And this was just the beginning.

[@alexhubble]

This is an AI reading program, yes? It's very very good...

[@billotto602]

It was such a waste of excellent talent that the Japanese commanders would commit suicide instead of saving themselves for further actions. They lost some incredibly talented men who would have benefitted the Japanese Navy later in the war. And as someone else has pointed out, rotating experienced airmen back to teach the new pilots things that only can be learned from combat.

[@rickj.9202]

Fine on my iPhone.

[@WW2Tales]

@rickj.9202 Sir your feedback is much appreciated 🙏

[@maureencora1]

Why the Did Capt. & Adm of Went Down with Carrier Hiryu?

[@tomminton5512]

All good

[@WW2Tales]

@tomminton5512 Sir very kind of you for the feedback, much appreciated Sir

[@michaelhenry7638]

Oh I bet a few eyes didn't tear. Like the guy saying "oh boy! Glad that ain't me!" Bet that guy wasn't tearing

[@HemlockRidge]

The Japanese name "Abe" is pronounced ah-beh.

[@TobinTwinsHockey]

Can someone confirm if this is AI narration? It’s great stuff but “bomb bits” instead of “bomb hits” type errors seem to lean towards it being a fake narrator

[@mwduck]

It is.

[@Vanayr]

The idiotic and ridiculous self inflicted loss of battle tested Japanese officers sure as hell didn’t help them either.

[@cedric9839]

Remember Pearl Harbor

[@lamnguyen-uj6lh]

Japan too greedy to lunch 4 carrier together just for 3 US carrier at midway …. He could have split that force to 2 in case they found and attacked by American bomber .

[@bclmax]

nobody splits forces...ask the germans in russia.

[@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe]

This officer looks like be might been rendered on some Wartime currency Perhaps they could be rendered more helpless

[@johnberger2851]

I wish he knew how to pronounce Japanese names. For example, the Japanese name that is written in romaji as "Abe" is properly pronounced Ah-bay

[@jkthegoldeneagle]

One still picture for the entire video : ( No maps showing movements and locations? -Needs a lot of work.

[@rdleahey]

As for me, I will stick to genuine scholarly history. If you like made up narratives, have at it.

[@luckyguy600]

Time to run for home guys. Don't tell anybody what happened today. it wasn't ' Yammys' best day. He had a date with destiny a little later over Bougainville. Not nice to stab America in the back. At least in those days. Not so much in 2024. Sad events.

[@jesselenz5452]

I got 13 minutes into this before I got sick to my stomach. Not from the events, but from the way it is portrayed. It sounds like Chinese or North Korean propaganda touting the heroics and great honor of the imperial Japanese navy compared with the heartless tactics of the Americans. Maybe that's just the Japanese way, but I like to simply get the facts and make up my own mind. I'm not watching the rest of it.

[@scottmcdonald5237]

👍

[@gowdsake7103]

Sighs why are these ALL AI by who knows

[@8bitorgy]

it feels like fiction

[@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b]

all or nothing!