Americans killed in Haiti in apparent gang attack

Two Americans were among a group of missionaries killed in Haiti in an apparent gang attack. Davy and Natalie Lloyd were killed, according to her father, Missouri lawmaker Ben Baker. Vania André, the chairperson of The Haitian Times, joins CBS News with more details.
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[@physetermacrocephalus2209]

Bringing a woman to Haiti right now is absolutley insane

[@ChineduOpara]

Nothing to do with gender, and everything to do with Risky Missionary Missions.

[@user-rc9nf4gx3g]

@@ChineduOparaeverything to do with gender

[@thetruthiest4916]

They thought God would protect them.

[@DashRiprock513]

don't need missionaries in Haiti. they've heard of jesus, and dont care.

[@patrickevans9604]

I think any missionaries going to Haiti right now is a terrible idea until some kind of military or police force can get in there and at least form some kind of safe zone. These gangs dgaf who these missionaries are or that they're wanting to help the civilians.

[@EdwardM919]

As a US citizen, don't travel to Haiti. Duh

[@Forever.Remain.Nameless]

North Korea or Mexico

[@user-dk3up2nl1m]

Im taking a vacation in Gaza..what could go wrong!

[@maximoarias-dn8kw]

Shes the daughter of a legislator. Thae usa will know what haiti is.

[@hueyang5943]

Correct!

[@Angel-zk5gi]

Or Chicago ​@@Forever.Remain.Nameless

[@aprilmichelle3543]

I'm black and I wouldn't step foot there. There is no reasoning with evil people. The whole place is corrupt.

[@TheAginG420]

I'm not trying to disparage you or anything, I'm just kind of agreeing. They don't care what color you are, if they find out you're American that's probably all they need/want to know.

[@CarnelianKryptolite]

​@@TheAginG420 Because they know Americans will only be there for nefarious reasons.

[@tjc2824]

No place is more corrupt that thr US bruh! Both the US and France put Haiti in the situation it is today!!

[@user-di4nw1ht8k]

We corrupt cause of USA their gangs their guns they provide them those munitions Haytien don’t have military they are USA gangs ok working for USA.

[@cupcake2009ist]

@@TheAginG420lies

[@ErickP3768]

As a Dominican I can’t understand why you would go to Haiti even for missionary reasons. Haiti is in a desperate situation no one is safe. Which is why the DR is increasing its border presence.

[@jjwalker8682]

Failed state, stay the F out.

[@tjc2824]

Failed state due to the US!!

[@JavonHolland]

Failed because the US and Europe invaded and doesn't allow them to be sovereign.

[@leepo007]

Thought 🇭🇹 was a country

[@drumpfisidiot5021]

​@@leepo007Barely

[@duke6961]

@@leepo007 Definition: a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government. So yes, Haiti is a failed state...

[@Yobinski4900]

WTFare u doing in Haiti?!

[@williamwilson6499]

You honestly don’t know what a missionary does? 🙄

[@stevensmith856]

God's Work

[@stevensmith856]

God's Work

[@Equilibrium29]

Brainwashing Haitians!

[@thatsallfolks5486]

Don’t worry many of them are here in the USA illegally, you have nothing to worry about…

[@deeprollingriver52]

Wtf. No way your missionary work makes a dent in Haiti.

[@digitalplayground8202]

That is a depressing outlook on life. To be fair, that could be applied to most of life. Makes me thankful for anybody who goes the extra distance to help others.

[@Alice-ov3rd]

They probably think they’re giving them a free ticket to heaven under the circumstances.

[@marcom238]

Psalm 116:15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his faithful servants. The word of God doesn't return void, they did the will of the Lord and that's all that matters.

[@KanjiEngKorean]

​@@digitalplayground8202 That is the most realistic outlook on life tbh. You shouldn't risk your life to make 0.1% progress 😂 I'd rather make 50% progress and die instead of risking my life to do 0.1%. Donating is enough, you don't need to go to Haiti to do that.

[@bigbadmamajama11]

@@marcom238 was it though? I applaud the effort and I get it but he is her husband and she protect his wife, going on suicide missions isn't what that means, taking your wife on one is a failure. GOD gives you common sense for a reason. I get the story of Jonah but he was told specifically to do something but he wasn't told to take his entire family.

[@atstafford10]

I can't understand why any one would want to go there. Not just Americans. It's been a dangerous place to travel for decades.

[@charmjdeane2225]

For the island's resources.

[@Jahn_Pah_Jonz]

They worked on an orphanage.

[@grahamcrackers7]

It hasn’t though. It only got worse within the last few years. I went to Haiti in 2009, and 2012. Lots of amazing people there. Was able to help out give medical supplies and food after the earthquake. It’s a shame, the good people that are there will no longer get help because of the corruption.

[@OmEvul1415]

@@charmjdeane2225 😂😂😂😂😂

[@bleikrsound6127]

Haiti takes 1st Place ahead of North Korea on my list of places to avoid.

[@anyelapamelaplopez2294]

As a Dominican citizen is a nightmare a lot of good people are suffering and a los of violent people are coming to dr

[@Makeitgreat1]

Pretty soon that list will include the whole world lol, if not already.

[@duke6961]

After Portland for me. Then Detroit. Then Haiti and NK. Yep, Haiti is #3 for me. And Disney Land. Okay, Haiti is #4 for me...

[@IndyCrewInNYC]

​@@anyelapamelaplopez2294 That wall is about to be finished by the newly elected Nationalist President. I hope my DR is armed to the teeth. We have a lot to protect from...that side of the island.

[@deankaras8359]

@@duke6961OMG you are right

[@wonder12374]

The fact that they were in Haiti is...wild

[@danielmartin7838]

People trying to help in a country wrought with hatred, racism and unspeakable violence

[@BaA-zz4pq]

@@danielmartin7838no they’re trying to spread their religious virus.

[@zerutul101]

they tried to spread a cult mentality....got sorted...wish 1st world countries cleaned up the religions/cults (SAME THING!) this way...

[@millsrickman7703]

@@zerutul101 oh zip it you

[@eightlights4939]

@@zerutul101 It's 'cult mentality' that got Humanity to this point.

[@Hatersgonn]

The woman giving the interview isnt even in Haiti..

[@cathyandresiak]

Deepest sympathies for the families of these 2 young beautiful people! Very Sad and devestatng!

[@revenadawson3910]

Those missionaries go anywhere at their own risk whether it’s Haiti, China, North Korea, anywhere in the Congo, it’s always at their own risk

[@user-uv4cu6xj8u]

中国🇨🇳是世界上最安全的国家，你是没有出过国被媒体洗脑的人吧？

[@radiosi-su7271]

I think they knew that.

[@MNP208]

China is fine. I’ve visited there.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

​@@MNP208Did you preach the Gospel on a Street Corner? This is sad but I respect the courage of these 3 Missionary Workers. They gave their life for Christ and knew this could be the outcome. They were willing to give their lives for the lost. The ultimate act of love. They will have Jewels in their Crowns.

[@Fat12219]

Poor people 😮

[@GeneralCliff]

Going to a country where 99% of the population has nothing to lose is asinine.

[@sparkywirenut]

What is the ethnicity of that 99% ? 😁

[@coughcough3323]

@@sparkywirenut farm equipment

[@perrytherobloxplatypus3025]

10 percent of the population are in large scale gangs and they control the whole country so 10 percent of dangerous people control 90 percent of the population

[@cupcake2009ist]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Cyndogg085]

​@@sparkywirenutthey knew damn well they stood out.

[@ariulkmartinez7837]

And yet, that plague is being forced into the Dominican Republic 🇩🇴.

[@user-ec7jf7tn4j]

That poor young sweet couple trying to do some good. More than most of us, and they lose their lives. God Bless them.

[@HermannTheGreat]

You gave your lip service patty, what are you going to do about the problems?

[@johnbergstrom2931]

You forgot "dumb"

[@WilliamsPinch]

They were being foolish. God doesn’t bless carelessness.

[@qret-dv5ym]

​@@WilliamsPinchAnd you know this how? What if this life is just a test? We don't even know why we're here, why we're alive.

[@Hatersgonn]

How about they do some of the lords work In their own country..

[@wp5224]

Going to Haiti for any reason is a big mistake.

[@butterzz6913]

A product of US intervention. Look it up.

[@MeEncantaKiley]

Unless it’s a BBQ

[@delbert372]

There aren’t lost people who need the Gospel in Haiti?

[@8abydoll]

@@delbert372You can spread gospel without putting yourself in immediate danger and any adult knows that.

[@wp5224]

@@delbert372, save the gospel for people who want to hear it, not for killers who despise those who preach it

[@ronaldtucker1262]

I met a man that owned 5 acres of ocean front property in Haiti. He had never spent the night there out of fear.

[@kenofken9458]

I wouldn't accept title to the entire island for a dollar if it meant I had to live there.

[@Channel-io1di]

​@@kenofken9458 lol

[@reachthesingularity]

@@kenofken9458 no lie detected

[@Look_What_You_Did]

Liar.

[@joycejones4855]

He should have never tried to buy their land and then to have the Haitians to work for him. When I was there on a mission the Americans are the ones who owned a lot of their land and then had the Haitians to cook and clean for them calling their country a third d world country yet bargained with them to pretty much steal from them I saw this with my own eyes and now they’re to scared to back to even check on their property what a shame

[@vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592]

I don't even want to imagine what was done to the wife before she and her husband were shot and killed. I was already so fearful for the Haitian women and children - the violence , suffering, and death they are subject to in that country. Why would a man bring his wife into that country.

[@mattdobson7598]

Can you explain how your comment is anything other than fear mongering, and how your comment benefits literally anyone?

[@vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592]

@@mattdobson7598 🔴 I don't see fear mongering in my post. That's your interpretation.

[@mattdobson7598]

@@vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592 so you will imply that women that go to a certain place get graped, as well as the women that are already there, but you can’t see how that would be considered fear mongering? Appealing to grape , and death is literally fear mongering. Please grow up.

[@vangodwinmyyoutubealias7592]

@mattdobson7598 🟥 Sorry, it's You who needs to grow up. My post conveys concern, and I am afraid for the people there. But I'm NOT the problem here. You're the one who is getting triggered by my post, and you're overreacting by accusing me of fear mongering. The country of Haiti 🇭🇹 is a dangerously unstable country right now, and it's in turmoil. And yes, I'm afraid for the women and children there. They are the most vulnerable to gang rape violence - the country has fallen and is overrun by terrorist gangs. The police and military are outnumbered and outgunned. Very scary and threatening in that country right now.

[@TheXstasy]

@@mattdobson7598 Truth hurts you little boy huh ?

[@henny696]

Leave Haiti, innocent people dont go there to die. There's too much violence there.

[@bryantjoshuap]

What did they expect, they are foreigners in a basically ungoverned country. Every person that goes to another country on a "mission" should know they have a high likelihood of being harmed.

[@abidinginchrist3139]

You act like they’re on here, complaining that they were murdered I’m sure they knew exactly what could happen to them and yet they still went to bring them some hope.

[@pjt3887]

I'm pretty sure they did not. Hope more will wake up. They don't pray to your version of God. They don't want your help ​@@abidinginchrist3139

[@DeborahRose2885]

Missionaries are willing to suffer and die for Christ

[@DeborahRose2885]

​@@abidinginchrist3139 Amen!!

[@kentmusgrove5038]

@@abidinginchrist3139 Bringing hope to Haiti is a fantasy. Dying for a fantasy is the same as believing a unicorn will save you.

[@allen123636]

The US told them not to go to that country, and they did it anyway.

[@darliskawhitaker1979]

I Know They Try To Warn Them.

[@eeddieedwards3890]

The "missionary" in the coal mine. I wouldn't go to Detroit let alone Haiti. Reality is a killer.

[@8Ayelet]

They were already there. They stayed for the sake of the children they cared for at the orphanage. ( Wouldn't you?)

[@digitalplayground8202]

That young couple were perfectly aware of the dangers. They both had been there for several years. The husband spent the majority of his life there to the point that his first language was Creole. The husband had been kidnapped before as a child. They had all been threatened with weapons multiple times. During the unrest that been going on in Haiti in the last half decade, the territories of the gangs in control of the areas where they had their orphanage and school have shifted constantly. They were well aware of the danger. They had a better idea of the danger than the US State Department. They just considered that helping people was worth the risk.

[@allen123636]

@@8Ayelet Life is brutal, now they are dead and the orphans aren't safe. That's sad

[@lebronjordan3098]

Haiti is a very dangerous place.

Being American there is like waving a red flag at an angry bull.

[@lebronjordan3098]

I can imagine.

[@gabrielcarmn]

Now you understand why DR do what we need to do with Haiti , Close our borders and stay away from that 🤷 Is not about racist things is about protect our country

[@p.santana9717]

👏🏽👏🏽

[@bilaljahi5364]

Also racism plays a part

[@jlopez9228]

@@bilaljahi5364no it doesn’t. Go to Haiti and see for yourself how things are. The race card is just emotional blackmail.

[@bilaljahi5364]

@@jlopez9228 nope 👎🏾 racist

[@SmartMoneyBro]

I'm trying to figure out what makes you go to Haiti at this point?

[@Geophrie39]

Spreading the love of Jesus Christ

[@janetrogers4738]

Children in an orphanage made those who died to stay there.

[@acornsucks2111]

white guilt.

[@prettyyoungthingpyt5015]

​@@acornsucks2111Definitely NOT WHITE GUILT

[@LFranklya]

Filling volunteer work area on resume lol

[@zm5513]

Can’t imagine what she endured prior to being shot and he was tied up

[@T2C47]

They probably did it to him, too.

[@dwaynewade66]

You know what I find interesting is You people claim you have the best men in the world the most law-abiding citizens in the world But I wonder did the Idaho murderer fit that description or the countless others

[@acornsucks2111]

@@dwaynewade66Or OJ?

[@dwaynewade66]

@@acornsucks2111 OJ was found innocent, but nice try, but if we wanna do a comparison and he did do it. Let's just jaded by his ex wife Kills her and her new lover But then you have another Person Pale man goes into a house with random people that he doesn't know kills 3 young blond women that you guys claim that you love and protect And killed a young man as well for no reason. Make it make sense

[@madmedic7840]

@@dwaynewade66 Why is the 13% committing over 50% violent crime trying to lecture others on law abiding?

[@rhoffman222]

Y'all don't understand the mind of a missionary do you?!?! Maybe look into it more and you would understand exactly why they were in Haiti. Dumb question. Someone lost their family member(s). Maybe have some compassion for those family members reading these comments. This "well that's what they get" mentality is gross and unnecessary. It helps nothing.

[@charlescook4877]

I understand that missionaries are brainwashed people going to other countries to brainwash their citizens in order to take advantage of them

[@WilliamsPinch]

God calls for us to use wisdom.

[@user-yt7fr1tk1u]

They were casting their pearls before swine - something they were told not to do. As a Christian myself, I do believe they are in heaven where they should be (if they were genuine). But they were naive. They should have never went to some third world people, when there are so many lost souls here in the western world. I'd be willing to bet they had friends and family members they could have focused on converting.... but they chose to go to Haiti. Well, there are consequences for listening to modern day propaganda.

[@M98747]

​@@madmedic7840Yeah, you've literally never read the Bible in your life.

[@digitalplayground8202]

You are correct that many of these comments have been cruel. Many people are acting poorly toward a young couple who sacrificed so much to help others. Still, if that young couple were to read these comments, they probably wouldn't get too upset. According to their beliefs, they are now with their God and experiencing a joy and peace that passes understanding. If they were to read these comments, they'd just be praying for a lot of people who are clearly hurting. I thinks they'd prefer a few mean KZbin comments to being in the tropics without AC and running water. They probably prefer a few mean comments over the times they've been kidnapped or the many times they were threatened with weapons. Yes, it's sad how people have reacted to this news. Still, this young couple never sacrificed to get the praise of people. They sacrificed because they wanted to live their life for God's glory.

[@Sharni.]

Not one nice statement for these 3 people who lost their lives helping people, but somewhat sympathy for the gangs filled with young men who are at a point of despair? Disgusting.

[@anabella4166]

I didn’t see any “sympathy for the gangs” but COME ON these two were FOOLS for going there WHEN THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY TOLD NOT TO!! That’s like if I walked into a cage full of grizzly bears then expected people to feel bad for me when I die! The government TOLD AMERICANS ITS DANGEROUS STAY away And they chose not to!

[@midway27272727]

Plenty of work in very dangerous cities right here in the US.

[@LenOliver-yz6os]

Your so rt!!!!

[@pjt3887]

Amen.

[@josephpa05]

and there is plenty of help already

[@JeepCherokeeful]

@@josephpa05obviously it’s VERY effective!

[@josephpa05]

@@JeepCherokeeful obviously it is compared to every other country

[@AliceR27]

Haiti is not a country to play. Many, many years of hard times, political unrest and violence.

[@jazzycat312]

Why would you use the word 'play'?

[@Bluebaja]

Now I understand why Dominican Republic don’t want to have nothing to do with Haiti.

[@CelanieDesir]

But they came and tried to poison them but I agree

[@mordakie3805]

dont think you cant get killed in DR

[@BouleBekay]

Remember that. These gangs belong to the United states government. So they can stealing resources just remember that before you say something.

[@dainagrn7030]

Only white Americans make those missionaries. I don't see black american couples doing the same.

[@CraigAstor24]

For all the negative comments, please understand they were there running an orphanage that’s been there for years. Their love for these children kept them there in spite of the danger. Things happened that escalated out of their control. We should be extolling their virtue, and expressing gratitude that there’s still a few unselfish, self sacrificing young people who feel compelled to help the most vulnerable in society. Condolences would be better than criticism at this time. “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” John 15:13

[@user-rc9nf4gx3g]

And? They knew the dangers. Praying didn’t help them

[@JAYSPLASHMUSIC]

that scripture is totally irrelevant to this situation lol.

[@joeblow229]

No, they should be an example of where the "White savior" complex gets a person. There are plenty of homeless kids in the US and places that AREN'T Haiti, why would they set up shop there?

[@patrickevans9604]

Nobody is saying they weren't trying to do good things. Were saying that they should have found a way out once the gangs took over because these people only see targets. Ffs the leader of one of these gangs is named BBQ. You don't get that kind of nickname or run a gang by being a kind guy and there are lots of rival gangs that are probably just as bad

[@norvalthompson8957]

Even though I’m not a religious person I appreciate the couple and yourself for your positivity and goodness. Thank you and my condolences to the couple. With that said there are some toxic bitter people who use situations as an excuse to express their hate. Please pay them no mind.

[@laneaub]

I’m Haitian ,I’m not going to the capital right now… What were they doing there ?

[@gavinschmidt8993]

They had an orphanage there started by the husbands mom and dad.

[@user-bn8qf9sb2c]

She called the rapers and killers “young man who are at a point of dispear and frustration”. She really thinks she’s fooling people.

[@gardenialeeman4932]

So terrible! Please! No missionries or any other Americans in Haiti.

[@mr.d280]

If they’d done local charity work for poor Americans that are also in need of help in every state in this Country they’d more than likely be alive right now.

[@jamesjenkins3384]

For sure. Becoming third world here all over.

[@janetmartin9372]

Poor Americans are rich compared to the average Hatian. It does not compare. They did what they felt was right. We have no right to speak against them trying to help many desperate people.

[@davidshakarisaz6364]

Speak for yourself @Janetmartin9372, we have every right to call out stupid when we see it. The gene pool may be less sweet without them, but much smarter too.

[@8wy51]

God's work is fraught with danger! If its God's will, missionaries will go to work.

[@TheAginG420]

Touche'

[@_dooley]

There is absolutely no reason to ever go to haiti. How much cognitive dissonance, self hatred, or white guilt does a person have to have to go to haiti? FAFO

[@CrakenFlux]

that white guilt..... learn a bit, bro

[@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou]

Should feel guilty. Only 180years of the west trying to starve Haiti into submission.

[@Cindy-dk3ko]

Being a missionary has nothing to do with guilt, it has everything to do with feelings of superiority.

[@googleisevil8958]

@@Cindy-dk3ko Or a sense of altruism cynical people might not understand.

[@maddb3457]

Cause "God" told them to.

[@shellyworkman5960]

Prayers for their families.

[@kodemasterx]

And the UN dares to call the Dominican Republic racist for trying to protect their side of the island from this madness.

[@seniormale]

One island , one side, is almost paradise, and the other hell, what is the difference from one to the other that has caused this, oh wait. ...

[@familler7]

I see why the Royal Caribbean cruise line has stopped docking at this port!

[@remynady]

THE ROYAL CARIBBEAN GOES TO THE SMALLER ISLAND PORT OF LABADEE,HAITI NOT THE MAIN ISLAND...

[@user-yc2td6wu2f]

This country,my country has given haiti Billions ,where has the money gone?????????

[@jacobstrouble6631]

definitely didn't go towards your education with that sentence structure.

[@johnnyblaze5549]

Straight in our politicians pocket. I'm Haitian by the way.

[@milou8781]

Your country give haiti millions they control there millions we don't fabricate gun.they makes haiti suffer for the independence.

[@mpconstructs6048]

​@@jacobstrouble6631awwe what a condescending comment from the Gerbil smuggler, your cute.

[@wesstubbs3472]

@@johnnyblaze5549 80% of all aid to Haiti goes directly into the bank accounts of the American stooges responsible for all the violence.

[@justoldog]

We either learn from our own mistakes, or from witnessing the mistakes of others. A learning opportunity here.

[@jazzycat312]

Okay, so who are you going to help? Homeless? Sick children? Umm...??

[@RussellTheTrader97]

Haiti is probably the most dangerous country in the world right now.

[@mickit23t21]

I am not one to victim shame ever but it’s so dangerous in Haiti even their citizens don’t want to be there 😢

[@AbsolutelyJason]

❤

[@MsAchampion]

Hello? They're trying to get the blank out if there too! 😢

[@captainnovolin]

And yet the Biden administration is arbitrarily rounding up Haitian immigrants and deporting them to an active war zone. People like Gerson Joseph, unknowingly deported to Haiti and left basically stranded without any documents to help him identify himself, after having lived in the US for decades.

[@digitalplayground8202]

Good to see you're not victim shaming. Unlike the citizens there, these missionaries did want to be there. This young couple were there knowing full well the danger they faced. They knew death was a risk and decided that was a price they were willing to pay. This young couple was well aware of the danger. They, their friends, and families had previously faced kidnapping and being threatened with weapons many times. They believed that not following their beliefs was worse than any harm that other humans could do to them. You may not agree, but clearly the principles you live by won't put you in danger.

[@mickit23t21]

@@digitalplayground8202 yeah ok two against thousands smart

[@BobJohnson992]

Haiti is a typical example of when civilization cannot be reached.

[@maddb3457]

How about a bunch of people from Europe brought a bunch of slaves to Haiti that eventually got their freedom on an island that doesn't have enough resources to support and develop a healthy economy 200 years later.

[@KierstenA-ue8mo]

😂🙄 ​@@maddb3457

[@jjr1728]

​@@maddb3457das rite it beez yt's faull. Dem gibs beez for sho

[@JusOne730]

@@maddb3457 so whats the solutuon?

[@Bob-lh4mg]

Kinda like trump supporters

[@didierduplantier8359]

Why would any sane person travel to Haiti anyway?

[@gavinschmidt8993]

The family had an orphanage there for over 20 years

[@ashtonperales291]

Be kind people !! There’s enough hate out there. This family is broken 💔. Say a prayer for the families. This couple were caring for the very children who no doubt were fathered by these gang members .. They were following their hearts for these children Weather you believe they were wrong .. They were right in following their beliefs .. The government failed them !!

[@melyndaduh3501]

My deepest sympathy to you on the loss of these fine young people.

[@thatsallfolks5486]

Well, im glad only 1 million of them have migrated to the USA, I feel safe with knowing they are here illegally…

[@Tbrew-zd6xb]

Ww love the Blk D

[@user-qj6vg8gp3l]

That's what our pew pews are for.

[@helendropinski3754]

Thanks to Bidens open border😂😂😂

[@kingbullyrock8739]

@@Tbrew-zd6xb And the HIV

[@lilblackduc7312]

FJB

[@Honeybadger7]

I hope the people of Haiti understand how much these missionaries loved the call that Christ Jesus placed in their hearts. To share the gospel in a very dark placed even if it cost them their life. Their death is not in vain, even if just one person there received the gift of eternal life it was worth it to them.

[@rashone2879]

Silly stuff! No such thing as eternal “life”.

[@mrbiglicks8267]

@@rashone2879 prove it.

[@Honeybadger7]

@@rashone2879 lf, I am wrong no harm done. If, you are are wrong it will be to late.

[@KVPRD]

They do not care.

[@Honeybadger7]

@@KVPRD But God does and that is all that matters.

[@mrbiglicks8267]

Do people like this live under a rock?

[@Sanctifiers]

not a fan of thinking are you? That young couple were perfectly aware of the dangers. They both had been there for several years. The husband spent the majority of his life there to the point that his first language was Creole. The husband had been kidnapped before as a child. They had all been threatened with weapons multiple times. During the unrest that been going on in Haiti in the last half decade, the territories of the gangs in control of the areas where they had their orphanage and school have shifted constantly. They were well aware of the danger. They had a better idea of the danger than the US State Department. They just considered that helping people was worth the risk.

[@mrbiglicks8267]

@@Sanctifiers yes, these handful of missionaries are going to straighten out Haiti... thanks for making it make sense. I guess you're Einstein.

[@mariee.5912]

​@@mrbiglicks8267 I think they went to help people in need not to fix their political problems. IMO

[@mrbiglicks8267]

@@mariee.5912 back to my original comment... Haiti isn't in a position to have a hand full of missionaries helping anyone.

[@joegardner5386]

WTH are you there for 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@tofuluvrr837]

supposedly running an orphanage...

[@WalkiTalki]

Remember the movie Green Inferno? Not enough missionaries have watched that one.

[@kayfisher7025]

AGAIN, what in God’s name are these missionaries doing in these countries . When will they learn ? Stay the hell OUT !

[@gavinschmidt8993]

@@tofuluvrr837no no. Not supposedly, they are running one.

[@tofuluvrr837]

@@gavinschmidt8993 i didn't mean supposedly as in a cover, i just meant I got that info from other comments and hadn't verified

[@qret-dv5ym]

RIP Davy and Natalie. Thank you for being angels on Earth. I pray your loved ones heal from your passing.

[@babarishka]

It's the same story wherever they are on the planet, without fail.

[@dwaynewade66]

So if that's the case why do you guys continue to come around us go back to Europe and stay there. Wouldn't that be best

[@tr2404]

@babarishka have you been around the world? Because the same can be said for your people...continously travel to other countries thinking they are superior to the laws...

[@sanepillow59]

You still mad because Stacy preferred Tyrone over you?

[@pkp6791]

Very sad. Unfortunately, not surprising. May they rest in peace. It is truly sad that they lost their lives while trying to help others.

[@RocketGator05]

kinda like how the clinton foundation tried helping haiti yet instead stole kids and money?

[@nizzotheartist]

There’s a part of Haiti that you don’t wanna go into. Especially if you are American.

[@ashfordj81]

Is that part of Haiti...Haiti?

[@maxwellsilver3115]

Especially if you are Anybody.

[@What_did_u_say]

Why would anyone go to Haiti?

[@gavinschmidt8993]

They have an orphanage there that’s ran for 20 years.

[@myracompton5727]

They gave their lives to stay and protect the children in the orphanage they worked in. They scarificed their life for someone else. Alot of the people in these comments wouldn't have a clue about selflessness... the evil men took their lives as they tried to make a differnce in the lives of children!! Pray for their families who are heartbroken at this tragedy!

That is Haiti's job, not Americans!

[@eeddieedwards3890]

It reminds me of the Priest holding up the Bible and confronting the Martian War Machines that have been destroying the countryside in the original 1953 "War of the Worlds" - you just knew he would get blasted by the Martian death ray.

[@kalamitygame4195]

The F are the doing over there???

[@danielmartin7838]

Gods work, it sounded like. Haiti is a lost cause

[@gavinschmidt8993]

They also have an orphanage their started by the husbands mom and dad

[@jazzycat312]

Didn't you listen to the story? Why ask a dumb question?

[@leepo007]

They chose to go , nothing else to say

[@sessayu2502]

Weren't there enough people for them to help here?

[@bellepierre2892]

We need to teach those gangs a lesson.

[@revivedkyoumahououin1585]

No they were culturally enriched.

[@marcoeugenio1021]

If country you're in is at war or due to violent crime you should get out of there.

[@prettyyoungthingpyt5015]

Evil country. May they rest in peace.

[@marcoeugenio1021]

@@prettyyoungthingpyt5015 Why is the world so cruel?

[@elconoetupepa]

They knew what they were getting into, because they were soldiers of God. They are the real winners.

[@martinminar1949]

If you want some action go to Washington Dc. We have it all, carjacking, robbery, theft.....Survival rate in Haiti is much , much less.

[@blancaj2165]

The people in Haiti don't want to be there but you got outsiders going there to teach the word of God to people who practice voodoo, you can't make this up. This is just crazy..

[@eeddieedwards3890]

And watch out you don't step in any Voodoo doo-doo.

[@blancaj2165]

@@eeddieedwards3890 😂😂

[@belori.e]

as a Haitian many haitian people are actually Christian but yes a small percent in certain areas do Vodoo

[@robertgates5164]

Haiti doesn't want the US there so the US shouldn't put their money there either. Haitians, work out your own problems as the USA has more than enough problems of their own. So tired of the EU and the USA trying to play nursemaid to the world. To the dead missionaries: You lived and died trying to perform works of good. I won't criticize your choice as you put your lives at risk for what you believed was right. Civilization has been harmed by your passing.

[@youngjody4082]

You can't put money into a place that America is already stealing from!

[@chadcameron4080]

The dead missionaries said thanks for the comment.

[@gamadahussein6663]

USA and France has caused most the issues in Haiti. Leave Haiti alone.

[@schmidemma7102]

First you say Haitians don’t want the U.S. in their country. Then you say, “Haitians, work out your own problem”. Dude, you said it yourself, they don’t want the U.S. there, so no need to ask them to work out their problems on their own. It’s y’all who won’t let them.

[@robertgates5164]

@@schmidemma7102 They don't want the US there but as the same time they want funds from the US. That was my point, they need to stop asking for any assistance and work out their own issues. EDIT: And agreed, the US and EU need to stop venturing into places they aren't requested to be in.

[@chucktplatt]

Obviously dont go to a foreign country where you are not native in any way shape or form,with nothing but violence in sight. Condolences to their families.

[@millsrickman7703]

They could've saved air fare by going to the zoo and climbing in the tiger enclosure before feeding time

[@junioradult6219]

Inwas waiting for a monkey joke😂

[@jazzycat312]

You first.

[@millsrickman7703]

@@jazzycat312 lol

[@ronnelacido1711]

Dark humor, but we all need some or we'll go crazy in an insane world.

[@d.n.8919]

When people go to countries like Haiti to do missionary or humanitarian work, they do know what they’re getting into and that they could be risking their lives. They choose to go anyway out of a deep desire to make an impact in a place that desperately needs good.

[@TTVToxic-yu5ov]

It's called a savior complex. How vain and narcissistic.

[@bernadette573]

That's the definition of spiritual hubris, not sanctity.

[@jazzycat312]

​@@TTVToxic-yu5ov do you say that to those who've helped you? Or, maybe you'll never need help, eh? And, we certainly know you're not one of help anyone else. So, what good are you? Do you serve a purp?

[@TTVToxic-yu5ov]

@@jazzycat312 plenty of people in my own town that need help. I don't need to go on a "mission" to serve my "church" to gain respect and admiration from other vain, narcissistic people who brag about how much charity and grace they give others. I just help people and I don't brag about it.

[@LesTalkForMenTv]

We need to take care of the homeland 1st. We have enough to deal with all of the crime going on here in the United States.

[@captainnovolin]

"My brain is stuck in 1987"

[@jazzycat312]

You first. Open your home to the homeless...or your wallet to the poor. Doesn't sound like you have the fortitude to do much else than type your opinions.

[@Hownow4]

They and you have a piece of my heart. Won’t forget their kindness.

[@eeddieedwards3890]

And their stupidity which cost them their lives.

[@wasimdbala349]

@@eeddieedwards3890 Whosoever loves his life will lose it. BUt whosoever regardeth not his life, will find it. Don't worry, You'll get it one day. ONe glorious day, it'll all become crystal clear, and you'll realize how little you actually understood.

[@Amor_Fati_]

Now is not the time to go to Haiti... RIP

[@MrNismopro]

I went to Haiti a while back to rescue one of our aircraft that had engine issues. I never went beyond the airport terminal. It was get in, get out with our aircraft. There were explosions going on beyond the fence line. We were in Cap.

[@FNJ720]

Why are they STILL there after all this time????🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@WalkiTalki]

During the pandemic Americans started to watch Idocracy and thought it was a guide for how to live their lives. The state department warns not to go to these places. Missionaries have been going to Haiti for generations and it hasn't improved one iota. Follow the rules and stay out.

[@tjayd1913]

Well they can follow the rules to and not come to America

[@johndavis9432]

That country will NEVER get its act together.Now they want reparations from France.Does that sound familiar?

[@ludniethelismond3608]

Who arm the gangs?

[@ludniethelismond3608]

No the solution is finding who are giving guns to those gangs They’ll always find kids to corrupt

[@ludniethelismond3608]

@@tjayd1913the difference is. We do not here to colonise you

[@mikeyb4704]

Don’t go to Haiti

[@metsrus]

Haiti is lawless right now, go at your own risk.

[@LearnAboutFlow]

It's like Florida in that way

[@dainagrn7030]

This young couple needed to have their own children instead of helping others. Especially when they wouldn't do the same for you if they were in your position.

[@Sanctifiers]

you don't have the slightest clue about Christianity I see

[@Moncters]

Willingly going to Haiti is INSANE

[@_walid_1798]

RIP. After all,no matter what, they were human beings 🙏🏻 Show some respect people.

The gangs that killed them are also human beings.

[@_walid_1798]

Yes they are. And it's very sad. Let us hope that one day you will never find yourself fighting for your life against another human being.

[@eeddieedwards3890]

The gangs that killed them are inhuman beings.

[@petergriffiinbirdistheword]

Unfortunately, when you're raised protected in a bubble... You fail to see the dangers around you. People who grow up sheltered don't take precautions because they're used to safety and security. 💔

[@gavinschmidt8993]

He grew up in Haiti.

[@Cyndogg085]

​@gavinschmidt8993 then why is the news calling him American?

[@islanderATP]

Why is any organization in there

[@OlgaSepulveda-pp3dq]

Sickening. My condolences to the family.

[@RayleighJones-pl6re]

These are missionaries to Haiti. A couple who had a call so strong to reach what the world would define as unreachable. Yes it was dangerous but sending countries to hell is a lot more scarier. They understood the value of the gospel and they risked their lives so people can experience the fullness of God. Instead of hating and blaming the missionaries for their death you should help and pray for those who are just like them in the Middle East and many more places where they could die. Some missionaries even come with their children. Even though they may have endured a painful death but their award will be great in heaven.

[@AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible]

What nonsense. There is no evidence for any gods. They were indoctrinated and it cost them their lives.

[@Sanctifiers]

yes!

[@eeddieedwards3890]

Yeah, 72 virgins waiting for them in heaven...oh wait!

[@seniormale]

Nonsensical bs

[@zakazan8561]

in other news, the sky is blue

[@HansKlopek]

Not a single rational reason for these two people to be in Haiti.

[@RyanB1987]

These people were utterly insane.

[@josephhalexander]

Foreign influence/interviention is not wanted nor needed. Leave Haiti alone to sort itself out.

[@jaimienommik1578]

My condolences to the families. The devil takes over Haiti Lord have mercy on Haitians people.

[@MrGawbeats]

Vania André is conveniently located in New Jersey, NOT in Haiti. Let that sink in for a second; she’s the chairperson of the Haitian Times, not on assignment in the US. That should tell you all you need to know about her perspective (e.g. when she’s saying the Haitian diaspora has concerns over US aid and the Kenyan mission) and the situation on the ground in Haiti.

[@UltraCollagenBooster]

hungry people = angry people

[@CrakenFlux]

let them raise crops, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE PLANET.

[@TheAginG420]

Truer words were never written.

[@mitchyoung93]

@@CrakenFlux Have you seen satellite pictures of the place...totally deforested, eroded, washed away top soil.

[@junioradult6219]

​@@mitchyoung93so no fish around a island?

[@KierstenA-ue8mo]

It's a little more than just "hunger" 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@ddaa2244]

I'd go to North Korea way before even thinking about going to Haiti

[@johnhaxby306]

people, I get the desire to work as missionaries in problematic places BUT Haiti is ruled by gangs, all the rules of humanity are OFF THE TABLE. don't put your lives at risk at this moment, so sad.

[@acornsucks2111]

right, you can't save all the children.

[@josephpa05]

Missionaries have always placed themselves in extreme environments throughout history and have all been slaughtered but their work has had a positive impact on countless people

[@user-yt7fr1tk1u]

@@josephpa05 Yeeeeaaah. But I think it's time to bring it home. Stop going to third world countries where the people don't want to hear it. There are plenty of lost souls here in the western world.

[@ChineduOpara]

Why is Kenya of all countries in charge of this issue? Isn't Nigeria or the nation of Wakanda better equipped to handle this humanitarian crisis?

[@milou8781]

They know what they doing

[@samlengua]

Wakanda?..

[@mitchyoung93]

@@samlengua It's REAL!

[@ChineduOpara]

@@mitchyoung93 🤣🤣🤣

[@eeddieedwards3890]

@@mitchyoung93 You mean it's REEL, as in a fictional movie.

[@lancewalters4667]

I am not sorry ,,,what you doing in Haiti ,you can never change them

[@LenOliver-yz6os]

Hard damn facts!!!!

[@RocketGator05]

Change them? you know the US has been attempting to destroy Haiti ever since their revolution against france and refusing to become and American state... F*ck Colonialism

[@mialoveall5812]

You are sorry a sorry excuse for a human for saying that.

[@TheAginG420]

Shouldn't be trying to change anybody.

[@megadevilkitty777]

Plenty in the USA need help. Help them!

[@frednovaes5888]

Haiti is hell in the Caribe.

[@lealoo6287]

This is awful, my daughter and son-n-law went to Ethiopia for mission work and I was scared for them the whole time they were gone. I know the work they do can be difficult and dangerous, but I just had to accept that's what they want to do.

[@NorthlanderMN]

Stop doing mission work. You’re not going to convert them because you giving them food or money.

[@lealoo6287]

@@NorthlanderMN Most of what they do is support the church already established. They support the community with needs. It's not always about converting.

[@marcom238]

​@@NorthlanderMNcause you're there to see no one converting while they're doing mission work right? It's not us who converts them, it's God who does a work in their hearts so that they believe and become born again. Us Christians are only servants and give them the news of the gospel.

[@lealoo6287]

@@marcom238 You think you know everything right? I'm not going to debate you since you know it all.

[@marcom238]

@@lealoo6287 I was responding to someone else