AMIGO VST: What They Aren't Telling You

In this video, let's discuss amigo improvements needed, s about AMIGO VST. Find out what they aren't telling you about this music production software!
00:00 Intro
00:37 Loading
01:32 Samples Missing
04:16 Loop overplaying
04:42 TAL sampler comparison
05:34 The glitch in detail
06:14 Amigo Folder
07:00 Windows 11 issue perhaps?
07:57 Overlap
08:55 Walkaround
10:26 Here is a temporary solution/Fix
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[@Music-tg5is]

You may need to update your "Amigo v1.0" that you are using in the video, to the latest version (Amigo v1.0.2) to fix the issue. As the newer version allows users to manually point Amigo to the correct sample folder location where any "missing samples" are currently located. Amigo will then load them in correctly as normal. The problem with the early version was, since, Amigo saves links to samples as "absolute folder path locations". Meaning, if those samples are subsequently moved from their original location (when they were loaded into Amigo), the plugin cannot automatically locate them. The version you're using doesn't even give the user the user prompt option to manually override that, but the update does. You would need to set up a new user account with at "potenzadsp" which wasn't available at product launch (if you haven't already - check your emails for their link) and then add your already purchased Amigo to the account, to get the latest version. BTW, I'm also using Windows 11 with no issues (since you queried whether it was an OS issue ... it isn't) 👍

[@TheBizzyBScience]

Thanks for the info

[@Gosha1992]

No need for hate in the comments, the tool's there for those that like it. Big up to Bizzy & Stekker both.

[@ROBERTTONUS]

if you press the gate button the sample doesn't play on

[@mrpulse]

Does pressing caps lock in edit mode to add “off” in pattern work to cut if off?

[@RaveyStabs]

The plugin might just be storing a reference to the file system path vs loading the sample into the project, which a lot of samplers do, so when you delete or move the sample file it can’t find it.

[@stekker1]

loading a sample directly into a project using VST is sadly impossible, due to the way permissions work on DAW it would be almost a security risk if a vst plugin could just change and mess with system files of a user if that makes sense :) there is a few sampler plugins that solve this by converting whatever sample u load into a proprietary string of data making it able to store as a preset so that you can save the state of the plugin and the data ( hence sample ) remains. this has its benefits and downsides so often samples like TAL dont enable this by default but have a toggle to turn this on or off. we plan to also add this in an upcoming update :)

[@ROBERTTONUS]

I find I can't load one of my own patches if I have one already loaded and want to swap. I have to open a new instance of amigo every time.

[@RaveyStabs]

For cutting a chop I made a tiny dummy slice with no sound and triggered it or switched on the Vel and did a 0 velocity note at end. Yep a bit workaround-ish but worked.

[@TheBizzyBScience]

good fix! thanks

[@simaticslnt1266]

Also just noticed with the phase, it seems to change almost round robin like. If i play through once, it acts one way, replay then produces different results from the same automation, anyone else having this trouble?

[@drskratchy]

VST3 dont load in Skale so im up the river without a paddle lol... Wont the note off command work in Renoise, The Caps lock key? Big up Bizzy!

[@TheBizzyBScience]

will give that a go

[@simaticslnt1266]

Not had this problem in ableton or bitwig with the samples missing. One thing that has been bugging me is when you print the audio, it adds a 'groove' to it, no matter how spot on you get your slicing it has a delay. Theres no plugin latency, so no idea why its doing it! With the sample stopping, seems to happen in through mode, the mute in ableton and bitwig works ok but, that is using the channel mute not amigos, just annoying to have to keep writing the automation in.

[@JungleTunes94]

It just doesnt seem to like samples saved within the daw, maybe a file path or permission thing, if you store the samples on the desktop or documents etc it will open up back where you were including any settings.

[@TUBEDIGGA]

You have to have GATE activated. Then your pattern mutes will work.

[@asionyta]

Weird.. amigo hasn't given me the missing file error yet.

[@asionyta]

I haven't used amigo in a while but I remember opening one of the project files for one of my tunes made with Amigo and i haven't got the error so..

[@Endle185]

Because u havnt moved the file somewhere else. If u do u will get it.

[@atetraxx]

No missing file error here after extensive use. As for the sample continuing, does putting it in gate mode instead of one shot fix the issue?

[@stekker1]

yes GATE mode is the solution, this was in the manual all along :)

[@TheBizzyBScience]

I will check that out man, thanks!

[@MassacreVegan]

Just had this happen on a project I'd been working on for a while. Each instance of it lost the sample, and I haven't deleted or moved anything. As long as you can find the audio you were working with again, it's fine, but it's a huge pain.

[@Myexpectationsarerealistic]

Sounds like a Renoise issue. No issues like that with FL Studio.. Why not just use the OFF command.

[@simonbell209]

Try using gate mode for the sample to stop.🙏

[@Citracid]

I use Reason I don't have this bug, don't forget to report to dev the bug.

[@bcrydah]

What I do to bypass the trigger through is use the Automation settings and turn the device off and on. I was having an issue too as well as Amigo not finding the file but I realized once I moved my sample folder it kind of resets the VST. But once you find a sample it works like it was never missing

[@bcrydah]

I should have waited to the end of the video to comment 😂

[@simaticslnt1266]

​@@bcrydah me too 😂

[@farben_]

The plugin has a very primitive file manager, it's what it is. TAL Sampler even if you remove the drive and change the letter, if you put the drive back you just have to locate the drive then TAL will automatically search for the file(s) that is missing. Worst than all of this is that Renoise has an horrible file manager too, you can't drag and drop samples into the plugins like you can in any DAW in existence.

[@stekker1]

next big update we already have a new internal filebrowser added which should help a ton with workflow for renoise users :)

[@dalek604]

Not had that problem in studio one, sounds like a bug to me. I'm not using Windows 11 for my music so it possible it's that.

[@TUBEDIGGA]

It’s not a bug. Amigo needs to have GATE activated, otherwise the sample will continue.

[@dalek604]

@TUBEDIGGA was talking about the file not being found, yes you're about the other part, tho.

[@AuT0maTe1]

I gave up on saving patches in any sampler lol the only patch ive bothered saving is my own version of an init patch. MY biggest issue with amigo is that i cannot drag samples straight in from my daws sample browser (because i use reason) so I have to browse it using the normal file browser meaning I get no preview and also means I have to bounce a lot of things out (i.e. stuff from refills) just for amigo making me have doubles of things i dont need. I also find it a mad struggle to remove pops and clicks from loop points in amigo especially when working on bass samples.

[@AuT0maTe1]

Also sometimes even with the gate mode on the sample will just loop forever I think this is a bug with the loop mode function itself.

[@Quiet_Forge]

Groove Agent loses files like this, I dropped it. I love Amigo... but I am using TAL Drum and TAL Sampler. Simple, reliable and sound great.

[@AeonHorus]

I haven't come across this in Ableton...

[@djphugitive]

you can set the volume for that sample to 0 when it has to stop

[@vincerollin1455]

Yo B, press A to trigger an OFF command on the chan!

[@datapusher-]

I had the same exact problem with it keeping samples in ableton 11 projects.... I stopped using it, honestly I wasnt as BLOWN away as everyone has been raving about it for..... Tal sampler makes it obsolete.

[@ashleighfournier-kelleher9536]

Checkout PAULA Max for Live device it uses TAL-DAC to emulate the Amiga Paula sound chip. Part of the MANY WORLDS SAMPLE CD.

[@Iconroller]

I found Amigo really buggy. I’m sure they’ll fix all the bugs eventually. I’ll carry on Tal Sampler and the Simple Sampler in Logic in the meantime

[@BCThunderthud]

Couldn't you just turn on gate? That seems like the appropriate mode for Renoise. I haven't had missing samples but I'm annoyed a tiny bit that the custom colors don't stick in Ableton.

[@stekker1]

strange colors save fine in ableton for myself and others, are you pressing the save button in the color palette editor ?

[@BCThunderthud]

@@stekker1 I guess it's not that they don't stick but when I change one instance it changes all of the instances. I've been using several or many instances in an instrument rack and thought different colors might be helpful.

[@stekker1]

@@BCThunderthud ill try and replicate this maybe we can fix :)

[@Endle185]

Tal pisses all over it. Just a bit shit to use.

[@Harzurner]

Biz brother! Don't even interact with this. Amigo is a gimmick, it's not coded in raw C++. It's made from one of those silly vsts maker packages. The creators make daft tracks mocking jungle, making it sound overly 90s of lofi, in a satire type way, it's all a joke and a mockery mate. And they are mocking you as you are the actual pioneer. You are above this Biz.

[@stekker1]

what are you on about mate its written in pure C++ with JUCE framework, and ive been making jungle on actual amigas for years before this plugin being friends with people like pete, phineus II, amiga junglism etc 🤦🏻‍♂ also how are we mocking bizzy or jungle in any way? where is your proof? its okay to not like the plugin we are not forcing anyone to like or buy it so normally i would ignore such comments but this is just straight up slanderous and lies for no reason whatsoever

[@Harzurner]

@stekker1 Oh, stop it. You used a template and a few scripts. And your jungle is a mix of lofi girl and super bomberman fake jungle.

[@stekker1]

@@Harzurner lol your delusional

[@Harzurner]

@@stekker1 No

[@stekker1]

@@Harzurner what do u mean no, its all in the open just one simple search away? you are just mad you are getting called out for your disgusting behaviour.

[@ushnicyuvnikof2748]

Down with Amigo and down with fake lofi and all hipster culture vultures!

[@ushnicyuvnikof2748]

Amigo is crap, it's annoying, overly lofi and used by the creators to make crappy fake lofi. It's a hipster turd. Just use an Akai people. the investment is worth it.

[@stekker1]

will send u a email 👍🏻

[@TheBizzyBScience]

@@chinering23 I was thinking the same, but isn't that a case of just not turning down the sample rate ?

[@TheBizzyBScience]

@@chinering23 I hear that bro

[@jaimebondoza3710]

i think stekker is a pretty cool guy. he responds in the commends and does'nt afraid of anything

[@dalek604]

​ @chinering23 just an on/off would be nice, I like the 8bit grit on some things but not on others.

[@farben_]

@@chinering23 I second this too, give people options. The lofi should be there for the people that want it.