Mixing Drums - "Vintage" Organic Style Using Plugins

Today I open a un-touched drum tracking session and start my mix process. After this I will most likely run the sounds thru some analog processing and into ¼ tape before officially chopping and packaging the new Sample Pack.
Shout out @digitalnic0 for letting me come over and record!

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[@vvundertone]

Most definitely!

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[@JaeHimself]

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[@vvundertone]

Got something better coming!

[@MM-bv7ks]

man I'm thankful that I discovered you. BEAUTIFUL content!!

[@mxlxsxntx3975]

Beautiful video, loved it.

[@brunoromiti7708]

great video! welcome back!

[@HugoArgentina]

Can't get enough "Vintage Organic Style" specially in the box. Thank you for this very enjoyable video and inspiring video

[@vvundertone]

Thank you! Will def be creating more in the future, trying different styles in and out the box.

[@jazzjazz8415]

Ayyy good to see you again!

[@adamwlove]

Another incredible video about a sound design topic I've always had questions about. Thank you! Keep up the good work!

[@vvundertone]

Thank you! This is just scratching the surface. Happy to go in more details in the future.

[@maigolostkids]

love this

[@alterhijo164]

I’ve seen your reels on instagram so I subbed once you came up on KZbin. Awesome to see you switch from monitors to headphones and make decisions in real time. Very helpful!

[@vvundertone]

Hey welcome! Appreciate having you here.

[@marcusbishop8936]

4:52 just in case you didn’t know, on Logic Pro you can drag up the eq curve via the left hand numbers column and physically see what frequencies are bothering you that might be hidden initially when you open up the Channel EQ :)

[@s.r.b.4582]

can you tell me what's this function's name please? i would like to learn more :) thanks!

[@marcusbishop8936]

@@s.r.b.4582 I don’t think there’s a specific name for it but just make sure that you have the analyser turned on on the Channel EQ plugin, then you’ll have the option to drag up the curve to see it in more detail if it’s hiding

[@vvundertone]

interesting! thank you, will def try this out.

[@benverbeck669]

Amazing stuff man

[@syopalisake2066]

Great stuff.

[@johankeilig3000]

amazing video man

[@mitya_music]

really informative, comfortable and vibey videos :) thank you

[@vvundertone]

I am happy that I could capture a comfortable feeling thru video! Thank you

[@NealCaen]

great video, 💯

[@bexeslerdesign5719]

cool style!

[@dylanhaugen7875]

Thank you for putting us on game Matthew McConaughey!

[@SunnJellie]

most likely Matthewdict McCumberwick

[@spchops]

Dope video, love seeing the process. Loved the “sauce mic”

[@vvundertone]

Salute brother, more sauce percolating soon!

[@akalui007]

very cool man! subbed!

[@qweqweewrwe23e132az]

Fire

[@maxlambiel]

Amazing video. Saturation is the key of every good sound, I'm pretty sure. I've been using Tape by Softube for a while now, it has a truly wide range of very consistent color options and I love it.

[@vvundertone]

I whole heartedly agree. You can never have enough options because they all affect sources differently!

[@freebase3281]

Nice, thanks.

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[@vvundertone]

Woohoo! Thank you! Thats a milestone!

[@bringyourownheart]

this. video. is. amazing. Sub'd. great content and would love more of this.

[@vvundertone]

More vids coming thru indeed...!

[@davidharrison5873]

The "weird mids" were due to phase cancellation. Notice how the bass started going away when you brought up the weird overhead.

[@vvundertone]

You are right. While I tried my best to keep phase correct (visually) when tracking perhaps the mics being too close caused the issue. I will correct it before printing to tape for sure! Thank you

[@crash1682]

really interesting, subed

[@qlyde]

Great video dude, no compression on drums takes guts lol! Try MJUC if you dont love digital comps, it's a classic, 3 models in one, great on busses, and cheap! Kiive also makes very good compressors but pricey. Don't sleep on Analog Obsession either, huge catalog 100% free, tons of vintage goodness

[@vvundertone]

That looks interesting. Especially the price point. Thank you!

[@Kkidzz]

XLN'S RC-20 is fantastic at throwing some 'Dust' on the drums...a dash of crackle and fizz = uber vibes

[@ilyouslug]

i think he’s one of those work harder not smarter type of musicians i respect it tho 😭

[@Kkidzz]

@@ilyouslug yeah, that’s a good take. I’ve learned to not be overly precious when it comes to getting sounds down. Ultimately it’s about serving the song.

[@vvundertone]

Oh yes trust me I got RC-20 on deck and use it often. But you know how it is, once you find yourself overusing the same tools you grow tired and reach for something new. At least I do!

[@vvundertone]

This comment thread gave me an idea for a new concept. "Real life RC-20" a guide to working harder not smarter, coming soon.

[@levelletate4551]

🤙🏾

[@peteytwofinger]

enjoyed your video pal - it seems like you know what you are doing , or you know what you like would be a better way to put it . combine that with loving what you do and you should be good ! have fun

[@vvundertone]

For sure. I am happy it translates. I been doing this for half my life and won't ever stop!

[@liothomasart]

11:07 now we talking! 🔥🔥🔥

[@vvundertone]

Right! I really want to try the hardware version!

[@rekindle]

Cool video! Interesting to see / hear your process.... That Arturia tape plug in seems (to me) to be one of the more useful tape emulations, I think it's based on the Mellotron?

[@vvundertone]

Thank you for takin the time to watch! Yes it's based on the Mellotron and I agree, it really does its own thing not copying anyone else's vibe.

[@iratamusic]

Great video! I’m curious as to what microphone you are using for your voice? I’ve seen it around and i love how it looks

[@vvundertone]

This mic is a Electro-Voice 635a. Nice sm57 alt.

[@mistahmath5063]

There is something very "Napoleon Dynamite-ish" about you.

[@vvundertone]

ha

[@kougan_music]

Sony 7506 and JBL 305? That's what I have. fun to be able to put the headphones and switch to monitors to hear what you are hearing

[@vvundertone]

Quite the combo. Sony did their thing with these and so affordable.

[@carter3700]

once you eq drums individually you cause phase incoherence- eq on drum bus and use parallel fx for individual tracks, and I love your vibe dude subscribed

[@vvundertone]

Good to know, Now i'll never use a plugin again, for the sake of the low end!

[@carter3700]

@@vvundertone my suggestion came off as preachy/snobby sorry and you taste win plugins are great I use a lot too

[@joaoantoniovione484]

why don't you make one exploring your (i think i've seen it at least) dbx on the rack? cheers from Brazil...

[@vvundertone]

100% I will do that. TY

[@NikhoBeatsBoutique]

Thats nice! That being said at some point looks like you re just throwing more plug in without reason or real purpose, like I got that one I like lets use it ;)

[@vvundertone]

So true. For the character mic its all about throwing as much as possible at it then peeling back the layers until a combination is found that works.

[@mxlxsxntx3975]

Why do you dislike digital compressors? I've never heard a hardware compressor, so the Plugins I have sound fine for me. Curious to know your answer. Great video!

[@vvundertone]

I just think in the digital world some things don't quite stack up what they are modeled after. When I use plugin compression, something feels cartoonish and plastic about them. I feel like I can't push them too much because they start to sonically crumble. Hard to articulate, and could be because I record a lot with microphones rather than software instruments.

[@mxlxsxntx3975]

@@vvundertone It must be something you can only hear once you compare A and B, and it seems hard to explain. You explained quite nicely though, as I think I'm able to understand that. Gonna have to test that sometime! Thanks for the info. Have a great day.

[@nantschev]

Don’t you check the phase first?

[@vvundertone]

After the kits mic'd up I always check phase before officially recording just so I don't have to worry about it later. Despite everything visually being in phase someone did point out the overhead having issues. Even when you do your very best to maintain phase something can still happen! Its a constant battle.

[@nantschev]

I remember some mix guru always checking phase in the process. When you put plugins on, they can also change the phase?

[@90041hood]

What caused you to lose your voice? Nice vid!

[@neptune9210]

me

[@90041hood]

Interesting- care to elaborate?

[@vvundertone]

I got a cold, didn't seem like anything wild until the cough started. I saw some docs and all they said was be patient. To this day still a mystery, I wouldn't wish it on anyone

[@beticuchomalo]

There is some noise in the left channel.

[@vvundertone]

You know when I started editing this I almost deleted it because I am a perfectionist and the noise was printed in the screen capture. (forgot to mute a channel on my Apollo which had a cord with nothing plugged in) but a note on perfectionism and how it can hold you back, I am grateful I decided to push thru otherwise I wouldn't of experienced a much needed small win this week to motivate me to continue to do KZbin. I say all this to say its better to put out something in the universe flaws n all instead of chasing perfectionism which often leads to working in a circle.

[@musicbyflipper]

that gretsch is phaaaat

[@vvundertone]

Oh man, yes its a thumper alright

[@musicbyflipper]

@@vvundertone you ever gonna drop it in a pack?? :pp

[@riseandshine5706]

I thought it said “mixing drugs”

[@vvundertone]

maybe thats why it has such a high click thru rate haha

[@nicobateria]

not my best work lol

[@vvundertone]

Well considering this video is based on 2 bars out of about 2 hours of drumming I am still gonna say you wrong. We got some good stuff no doubt.

[@jazzjazz8415]

Beautiful

[@josephmarragot4756]

if you reaslly want vintage, you need vintage mics

[@vvundertone]

Luckily vintage mics are all I got!

[@wyrlismike]

I respectfully disagree, the most vintage drum sound I ever got was for a surf rock track I did using only 3 mics in a very large living room. Didn't need any tape saturation or tricks of any kind used a couple modern mics, it was all about the room and placement

[@gregorbajc4541]

You know what. This sucked. Distortion plugin on saturation plugin on distortion plugin on buzzword plugin (god particle lol srsly) tape plugin distortion plugin tape plugin... honestly, its like watching a 16 year old cooking a pasta in a dorm room and pouring a glass of cheap wine. Get some perspective lol

[@RX120D]

"Your favourite color sucks! My favourite color is obviously the best." - You.

[@mrsvancesnightmare]

Yeah, how dare you affect your audio files until you get a result you enjoy, that's almost like mixing or something. 😂

[@vvundertone]

At the end of the day its all just a matter of taste. For all I know your favorite band might be Imagine Dragons. All I am trying to do here is replicate my favorite music from the 60s and 70s which have a lot of noise, saturation, aura and color to the sound. If you prefer Nickelbacks drum sound its fine bro.

[@RX120D]

@@vvundertone You're doing well, dude. Really enjoyed this video. Keep it up.

[@Blepherk]

Guys, music producer content creators should just skip intros and life story, and just go straight to the material. Majority of Music producers are not elementary anymore. I had to skip this video, im just tired of hearinn life stories instead of what the thumbnail entails

[@vvundertone]

hey you not wrong. I can be a yapper.