Aminopyralid in Compost ~ Love Your Land

This was a hard video for me to shoot, but it's so important to me that there be SO much more awareness around the potential for compost contamination, I had to do it. As I mention in the video, I pretty much never ask y'all to share my videos. But I'm asking EVERYONE to PLEASE share this one. There are literally, and minimally, hundreds of local people who put this compost into their gardens this spring, and they deserve to know what's going on. And beyond local folks, this can happen ANYWHERE in the country! Please, please, please share. Thank you. p.s. I wasn't able to edit this video (yikes), so it ends quite abruptly at the end; but that is truly the end of the video.) ;)
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[@TRISHAPEN1]

THANK YOU. THIS IS THE ONLY VIDEO that told me what was wrong with my tomato and other veggies. I got compost from my county for free and not only did you tell what was wrong with my tomato plants but you informed me about bad compost. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

[@cosmicallyderived]

Same story with me. I attended these eco friendly gardening classes that were touting all the benefits of compost and how the city stopped using chemical fertilizers and used 100% compost to serve their roses and what not around town. Several years later I get some municipal compost to add to my garden and I discover all the retarded growth. I was lucky to happen to plant a bean plant in other soil from Costco and I noticed that plant thrived and had crisp nice leaves while the other plants looked horrible. These municipalities need to add caveats about their compost.

[@janicejurgensen2122]

I’m so sorry! I am a new gardener and this isn’t anything I’ve heard of but because of your respect for fellow gardeners I am now forewarned!!

[@davem5308]

I have watched about a half dozen videos of late, discussing herbicide drift, and toxic compost, etc. I am not growing anything this season, but I appreciate our hostess in this video, giving us warnings, and cautionary advice. It always sucks when you are devoted to caring for your plant life, and some get impacted by assorted attacks, and fail to grow and produce properly. Such a balancing act, and therein, lies some of the "magic".

[@robkoss]

Very sorry to hear that this happened to you. I very much appreciate you sharing this painful experience with the rest of us.

[@cocoforests7888]

THANK YOU!!! my capsicums are not normal, and the more I water them, the more they suffer. my cherry tomatoes are not affected but my normal tomatoes, beans, eggplants and potatoes are/were severely affected. I have been questioning every aspect of my process because it's my first time gardening, but I never suspected herbicide. now I need to do some experimenting with bean seeds and see if the herbicide is in our water (from a run-off that I thought was clean) or from the compost. and yes, the cucumbers were not affected.

[@bluescitygarage]

I had the same problem this year in my container garden. I used miracle grow and Black Kow. I truly believe it was the Black Kow that was tainted. I use no herbicides on my property and live in the middle of 35 acres.

[@cynthiamontgomery4172]

Thank you for this video. I have been searching everywhere to figure out what was wrong with my tomatoes. They look like something from a Dr. Seuss book. I ordered top soil and it had a mix of manure in it. Definately herbicides in it. I worked so hard on my garden only to have everything look so horrible.

[@Katydidit]

This same thing happened to my garden. I brought in 4 cubic yards of "garden soil mix" this is so devastating. This stuff needs to be banned!!

[@nosniborrehsif9977]

Thank you so much for sharing this information!

[@danielsanford4109]

Thank you.

[@stephaniehogue6442]

I used cow manure on my last tomato plant and 1 pepper plant. Neither flowered and the leaves curled but my other veggies grew fine.

[@lindalee3867]

Oh Karen, I am so sorry to hear this. I guess the rabbits were sent to save some of your plants for you. Thank goodness you found out before you guys ate anything! Sending good vibes your way and hoping everything is smooth sailing from here on out. At least we can look forward to the progress of your backup garden. ❤❤❤🍀

[@123loveyourland]

Yep. As silly as it may sound to some, we do believe the rabbits were invasive for a purpose, sent by God, I believe. Thank you, Linda.

[@kennethnormanthompson2740]

Who knows what this stuff does to the cows that eat it, and to the people who eat the beef.

[@bornn68]

This is exactly what I am seeing! Over winter here I applied manure along with the heavy spring snow my lawn looked the best it ever has. Here's the thing I dumped half into my veggie garden, so it's all over. I've been thinking next year I may remove and rake the contaminated soil onto my lawn. But then again I tilled so deep so I might just move away. I wish I found this five years ago.

[@ausfoodgarden]

This is so sad, I got contaminated too. Down here in Australia, still, most gardeners don't know about aminopyralid. Even some I spoke to that have community garden plots and grow way more than me. I'll be releasing a video on my personal channel and on a garden channel I plan on starting about this. I'll be spreading the word as much as I can as it's not in the public eye. Most new gardeners will just think it's all too hard if they are contaminated, never knowing why. Now, before I use anything I buy, I do a bioassay.

[@blessedbygod3430]

WOW!!! This is just WILD!!! I think I read about this in "Mother Earth News" magazine in an article titled " Killer Compost".

[@lisakukla459]

Ugh, how awful. I'm so sorry this happened. If it happened to a new gardener, they would probably blame themselves. Maybe they would try again the next year, or maybe they would give up, believing they just can't get it right, or that it's too hard. I think this is more likely if it happened two years in a row. That would be kind of tragic. I'm glad you were able to access testing and identify the cause, and that you persisted. Sometimes the garden can be as heartbreaking as it is backbreaking. Aminopyralid, and the like, is banned in Vermont; it would be nice if other states caught on and banned it, too. What did you ultimately decide to do about the contamination?

[@MiySadochok]

I got the same issue with my tomatoes and peppers, while I was growing them from seeds in house. There was no compost in pots, just potting soil! It is very scary, that the herbicides are not only in compost, but in the store-bought potting soil. First I thought it was a desease, i started to spray my seedling with fungicides, but it did not help. Then I thought, maybe they will be cured by fesh garden soil and the sunlight, if I plant them in garden. So I did. They are still curly (I live in Canada and I planted them in garden in the middle of May. Now - June). Some of them started to grow and un-curled a bit, but they all grow very slow. Few of tomato plants are still very small and all leaves are completely curly.

[@Aelanna]

David the Good addressed this issue in his book Compost Everything. It was the first time I've heard of this herbicide, and now I'm afraid to even think about getting compost. You can't trust anyone or anything off your own site. It's sad, but that's the world we live in now.

[@123loveyourland]

It is sad. Be it ignorance, carelessness, or greed, it can happen anywhere. :(

[@Aelanna]

Yep. The only way to be safe is make your own compost. These sorts of chemicals shouldn't be allowed. Do I want to eat the beef that came from that pasture? Do I want to eat the grains that were sprayed with this stuff? Hell, no.

[@123loveyourland]

And thank you for this. I emailed him.

[@HeyWatchMeGo]

I'm here because of my potatoes. EXACTLY the same look to the leaves as your tomatoes. I used some compost tea on them, from locally sourced cow manure, that I had collected in pails and left in the sun for a YEAR. I had put a lid on it, and added some water, and thought I was really clever, because the heat of the sun/and the composting effect would kill the weed seeds... It did, but the manure must have contained picloram... The next year (I had convinced myself that maybe I had used too much manure tea, and damaged my plants/the first year... I was at a loss), exactly the same thing happened. I now know the manure is contaminated, NO DOUBT, and I will have to dig out all that soil and replace it :( My crop was a total write-off. Sad. Thank-you for this well done video. It was like a conversation with a friend. Sorry about your plants!!

[@cleoxo2566]

How terrible for you!! Just before I watched your video, I watched another video that talked about the risks of using manure, unless you know for certain where the animal grazed. Now you are telling about chemical contamination of compost! I don't have enough compost for my whole garden this year, but I am just going to wait. Thanks so much for sharing this!

[@wingabouts]

I'm so sorry this happened. I've upsized my own composting efforts so I won't have to purchase from others. By the way, I learned from another KZbinr that you can plant corn, NOT to eat, but to uptake this chemical from the soil. Burn the plants after they mature and repeat. After 2 or 3 "crops" plant a few bean seeds to test the soil. If you still see leaf deformities, plant corn again. Hope that helps.

[@RepentanceGarden]

Karen! I'm so sorry u had 2 go thru all of this!! At the same time thank you 4 posting & sharing as I am a new gardener & do not know much about things like this! Would've not known to not eat the food so thank you!!! Im really glad & truly believe God sent those rabbits to keep u from losing lots more! With that being so evident I can't wait 2 see the way u bounce back* & see what you do harvest when it's time :) (*even more than u already have because I don't kno if I would've handle it as well as u did)

[@123loveyourland]

Thank you so much Sergio. I literally sat and cried for three hours then got up and started clearing an unaffected garden bed to start growing in there instead. I haven't stopped my Plan B at all since then.

[@RepentanceGarden]

+Love Your Land I truly feel 4 u!! I'm glad u got 2 it right away, I've been neglecting some plants because others are dying from this heat.. But you've also helped me get bak into the garden & that's what I've been doing 2day, so Thank You Karen!!! I'll be praying 4 u! God Bless You! “Those who plant in tears will harvest with shouts of joy. They weep as they go to plant their seed, but they sing as they return with the harvest.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭126:5-6‬ ‭NLT‬‬

[@123loveyourland]

+Sergio Perez, Wow, Sergio!! This is so perfect & beautiful!! Thank you!!

[@RepentanceGarden]

+Love Your Land :)

[@alfredomiranda7002]

Excellent video Karen, great job!

[@krisr3493]

Wow, I really want to cry for you, I can't imagine your devastation. I know they can't reimburse you for all your time but I really hope you can make the supplier atleast reimburse you. :(

[@603chefmon]

make sure the state lab passes the test results on to the state EPA they should take it from there and start a investigation,you can get copies of it to use in court if it comes to that.so sorry for your loss.thank you for sharing.

[@allkindsofstuff6649]

I'm having same issue with my tomato plants, got my cow compost from a local nursery and tilled it into my garden to prepare it.it hit the garden and I had issues, but I'd make compost tea with it and no issues.

[@LezaRay]

Oh, how sad! I really feel for you!!! And when you start them from seed, and they are your babies... 😭😭😭 I've had this happen from using grass clippings, and just thought it was curly top... . I no longer get grass clippings from anywhere but our yard. I just filled 6 raised beds with overwintered horse manure from a friend. Didn't think of the hay they had been eating. Will do a bean test inside instead of waiting for the weather to warm up (we're expecting snow in a few days, and it's already May 6th..., but this happens in Western Wisconsin...). Thank you so much for this idea!!! And thank you so much for your info in the hopes of helping others!!! ❤️❤️❤️ One thing David the Good suggests is to scoop any manure off if it was just too dressed, and then to sprinkle charcoal over the soil to absorb the nastiness. He also suggests planting corn, it some other grass-like plant because the herbicides won't hurt them. 🙂

[@sundoesshine8800]

Note corn is on the list of affected plants unfortunately (in the family of broad leaf grass).

[@LezaRay]

@@sundoesshine8800 Ugh. I wouldn't trust eating anything planted in it anyway. Iceberg lettuce has been used to pull toxins from the soil. Wonder if it would work for this, too... ?

[@country4lyfe365]

I'm so sorry for that mess. I just did thee same thing.

[@charlotteaustrew4463]

This is my first year to have a garden and wouldn't you know I ordered some compost thinking I was doing so good and guess what I got the killer compost to makes you sick I got five minute half yards I'm trying to dig it out I really don't know what to do this stuff should be outlawed

[@ivymok6688]

Sorry to hear about your garden and thanks for sharing your experience with us! I can understand how pissed one gardener can be when you're doing every thing right but got compost from a bad source. What are you going to do with these contaminated beds? Not planting in them for 3 years? I would be devastated if it happens to me because land is precious in CA and I only have a small raised bed and some pots.

[@123loveyourland]

Thanks, Ivy. This will have to be removed & replaced before this season is up.

[@ivymok6688]

Hope you have better luck this time!

[@bobstevens6153]

Also effects straw foe mulch from the hay field. Lost all our beans and tomatoes.

[@OfftoShambala]

New here... yes, they’ve known since the beginning how the herbicides and pesticides can travel for miles... I know a guy involved in the biz way back in the fifties and sixties... did you make a video about how you remedied the situation? Years ago I heard that daisies and sunflowers are able to detox soil... apparently they were used in the radiated soil around Chernobyl ... I can only assume that those could help this situation. I’m just beginning to look into it more deeply now, how to remedy this situation.

[@tinyturnip3403]

I feel your pain. It just happened to me with hay. Perhaps if we make this more relevant in social media we could just win the battle. That is why I posted a video as well. We don’t need the government to save us; we all just need to stop buying that stuff and the free market will take care of the rest. Stay positive ✌️

[@OfftoShambala]

That’s right... the government is usually the culprit.

[@kurokitsune6173]

I also have twisted foliage on my tomatoes and odd growth on my marigolds but the rest of my plants are stunning. In my main bed, I have 4 tomatoes, 3 peppers, 1 habanero chilli, 7 dead peas because of powdery mildew, 6 marigolds, 6 caledula, 3 rockmelon and 3 eggplant to which 1 just died. But the tomatoes and the marigolds are the only ones afflicted. I do see ground aphids in the soil but all the trees and my other plants seem unaffected by them. But I haven't used any compost. The only things I used is Seasol spray and Yates organic tomato feed.

[@lifelvr9509]

I know you don't want to hurt that company, but I don't care that it was not done maliciously. It was still negligence, and the kind of negligence that can seriously physically harm people and property. They MUST be held accountable. This company, being in the business of selling compost, cannot be allowed to use ignorance as any excuse. When the test results come back, action MUST be taken.

[@123loveyourland]

I hear ya, Roma. I have wrestled with this since the day it was discovered. I will absolutely be asking them to do right by me and remedy this situation, or we can litigate if they prefer, but I believe they'll do the right thing. I will also be asking them to contact everyone they sold it to with a "recall" of sorts. Going as far as actually naming them publicly, I'm not going there yet. And I hope to God I don't have to.

[@lifelvr9509]

Excellent!! I think of you every time I go out to my garden, and send you telepathic hugs!!

[@123loveyourland]

+Roma Seiker I feel the love, believe me.

[@Sergecalifornia]

The same thing happened to my tomato. All the leaves are deformed very curly ,

[@mrksimm2002]

To test manure, compost or soil you think might be contaminated. Thoroughly mix 1-2 parts manure, compost or soil with 1 part commercial potting soil in a clean bucket. Prepare enough to fill three 4-inch pots. Fill another three clean pots solely with commercial potting soil. These will be the untreated comparisons. Place each of the pots in a separate saucer to prevent water from on pot reaching another. Water the pots and leave to stand for 24 hours. Plant each pot with three pea or bean seeds. Observe subsequent growth for four-week period and note any ill effects in the pots containing the possibly contaminated mix, such as cupped leaves, fern like growth on new shoots or twisted stems. These symptoms may indicate picloram, clopyralid or aminopyralid residue in the manure, compost or soil. Signs of other kinds of damage will most likely indicate other issues such as damping off or bacteria-infected soil, etc.

[@123loveyourland]

Yep, we did this, and our local University did it for us as well. Results were conclusive.

[@mrksimm2002]

I had the same exact thing happen to me last year , I acquired compost from the local tree and leaf dump ..(they turn it into compost and we can pick it up for free).. I added it to a few different containers for tomato's the first batch that I got worked beautiful the tomato's took hold quickly and grew amazingly ..the next two bins I filled up and transplanted into ended up growing exactly as the ones shown in your video I , much like yourself was under the impression that it was something that I had done with fertilizer ect... devastating results.. Thank you very much for bringing this issue to light , It is an issue that needs to be addressed..

[@GardeningGroomer]

Happened to me this week. Devastating. Trying to decide what to do now.

[@OfftoShambala]

I heard, don’t know for fact, but daisies and sunflowers, mostly daisies, apparently, can detox soils and they were used around Chernobyl.

[@Katydidit]

This happened to my garden in Spring 2020. So I am wondering on the long term affect on your beds, and how did you remediate this issue??

[@____Ann____]

My garden is completely destroyed. I added lots of compost and everything is curled and weak. Tomatoes, beans, flowers, and so on. I never use any chemical fertilizer, any spray, not even organic. But now my garden is completely poisoned. I am angry and sad.

[@____Ann____]

Are you growing something this year in the affected beds? I have nothing without that killer compost. I put a thick layer as mulch everywhere in my garden and added it to all my pots and containers. I even have a pile left, intended to fill more pots.

[@cellcrazy1]

@@____Ann____ I am in the same position as you - I got two van loads of horse manure and put it under every fruit tree; mixed it through my 3 huge bins of organic home-made compost and put huge amounts in every vege bed. My plants actually all look amazing, except for a bed of potatoes which have shrivelled leaves and stems, that's how I knew something was up. I will wipe away 10 years of work and start from scratch. So Ann - I feel your pain! Love Your Land - I'd love to know how you got on.

[@____Ann____]

@@cellcrazy1 Hi! Hart breaking is it, right? I put ylthe compost as mulch in my vegetable and flower beds. A lot of plants were doing very bad in the beginning but half of them survived and did OK. Most of my tomatoes were actually fine. And even the beans survived and produced. The flowers did less good: most did not survive or stayed the same during weeks. But everything that was planted in containers was so sick and weak I had to throw them away. So, where I mulched with compost eventually it was less dramatic than I feared but in containers, where the compost was mixed with growing medium everything was so curled and twisted that they didn't survive / produce. I hope next year most of this poison will be gone. I will NEVER buy non organic compost anymore.

[@thesandmannexperience1914]

This happened to me. I got my composted cow manure from a local farmer. I mixed it into my brand new 10,000sq ft garden. I can of course see damage on select vegetables, tomatoes and peppers mostly. But I can’t eat any off the fruit/vegetables?! I’m so upset and out of money and my business venture. What happened in your situation? Did you get compensated for anything, did you confront the supplier? What can be done? Who should I talk to locally, I am in NC?

[@susanforet2117]

Oh man, I am so sorry, The same thing happened to me about 6 years ago. My manure came from a local farm and the horses had been feed hay from fields sprayed with aminopyralid. Also, don't ever use Black Kow or the 'ORGANIC" (?) COMPOST by Miracle Grow.

[@123loveyourland]

Ugh I’m so sorry that happened to you too! I was utterly heartbroken. Had to hire people to remove all the soil from our garden and then start all over. :(

[@JubeeBijou]

I'm sorry this happened to you. What's wrong with Black Kow? I'm a new gardener and I used 1/3 black kow, 1/3 peat and 1/3 top soil. I use straw as mulch. Now I'm freaking out.

[@cantcoverGRILL]

This is happening to me this year, for the second year in a row. How long before you were able to grow in those beds? The company responsible says it can't be them because they test their soil. So frustrating.

[@bleepbloop101010101]

If you still have some of their soil you can do a 'bioassay' and plant a susceptible plant (beans work) and grow the plant in a pot with just that soil to maturity. If it shows the telltale deformities you can confirm to them that the soil is the issue (they probably are just denying it though they know it's the cause).

[@edwardleroy7648]

Yes, this is worse than a pisser! It has shown up in Black Kow manure compost.

[@bwaldners]

I have this disaster in my garden this year and I have a big garden. Are the squash going to be okay? I planted lots of squash and cucumbers too. My potatoes and tomatoes are the worst . The parsley looks puckered but it is growing. The beans are ruined. They simply stopped growing. Peas are along a fence where there is not a lot of the compost but seem very slow this year.

[@123loveyourland]

I’m so sorry. It’s terrible, I know. Important … only sensitive plants like tomatoes, peppers, potatoes, beans, etc. are going to show signs. However, according to Dow Chemical Co.’s website, NO FRUIT/VEG should be consumed from any plant grown it aminopyralid contaminated soil.

[@AncientSecretz]

Is it better to buy soul at Home Depot or Lowe’s though more expensive f doing larger areas?

[@123loveyourland]

It depends on multiple factors, such as your goals with the soil, the area you live in, your options for purchasing from various suppliers, etc.

[@Jonathan-tr9tx]

What type of compost did you get?

[@MIgardener]

oh my gosh.... this is SO sad Karen.

[@123loveyourland]

Yep. It sucks.

[@MIgardener]

Love Your Land :( I had no idea it was this bad... From what you were saying when we were chatting it sounded like a bacterial thing. I had no idea it was actually chemical! That should literally be illegal to use.

[@123loveyourland]

+MIgardener | Simple Organic Gardening & Sustainable Living - yes, it should be illegal. It was pulled off the market in the UK for a few years, but then put back on in 2011. Please share this video if you have room on MIGardener. Thanks, Luke.

[@snorksonforks]

kellogs

[@jtimwest]

I had an entire greenhouse tainted with manure compost from a reputable composter. The manure is from a stockyard where cattle are sold.

[@123loveyourland]

I’m so sorry, Tim. It’s devastating, I know.

[@ZE308AC]

You have every right to be angry, I know I would be fuming with anger.

[@LforMinerva]

I wish i saw this video last year. same thing happened to me and I immediately thought herbicide drift, then i thought curly top virus and then i asked a community and they mentioned this. its a shame this happens i was a new gardener too. So that soil should be thrown out right? i still have some of that soil from last year in my old containers. :/ i guess i gotta throw money. I'll do that test you mentioned later...growing something in the soil as a test... So i can see if its actually ruined from Aminopyralid. :/

[@OfftoShambala]

You might be able to cleanse the soil with daisies.

[@John-jg3uq]

@@OfftoShambala do you know how to apply the daisies?

[@AcornHillHomestead]

Its 2020 and really getting to the point where we cant even trust bringing in any outside materials. The conversations on You Tube surrounding this problem is ramping up all over now. All of the companies involved in the gardening industry should be outraged and concerned about this. It affects them too because many people will not bother to buy outside materials OF ANY KIND in fear of having this problem.Im so glad we have our own acreage so we will be able to make our own from tree bark and wood chips. Thats the direction we will take from now on. Thank God we did not order that compost we were talking about betting this spring. Id rather just wait a year for our own than lose years worth of gardening. Time to buy our own chipper! No more hay or outside compost for us. So what did you do with all of the beds affected?

[@HeyWatchMeGo]

Caution: Read up on wood/wood chips depleting your soil of nitrogen! It's a real thing, and I only figured it out by researching it AFTER I had used wood chips (of my own) that I had composted for FIVE years...and suddenly, all my plants started losing their green color. In case you are wondering, it's not because I used 'too much', it's because of the effect of wood chips on nitrogen levels. Google it please, and save yourself the grief. Good luck to you :)

[@juliehatzell1081]

How did you remedy this? I contaminated my entire garden with this crap this year. Had no idea it was even a thing until all my toms and peppers started curling and twisting and couldn't grow a single bean. Now I am trying to figure out what to do to remedy it. It's in all my beds and grow bags.

[@123loveyourland]

Julie, I am so sorry this happened to you. I contacted the US Composting Council by phone, and since they definitively said it cannot be washed, rinsed, or flooded out, we ultimately had to hire a crew to remove all of the soil and we replaced it with new. All very frustrating.

[@juliehatzell1081]

@@123loveyourland Ugh, what do you do now? Do you test everything that goes in? What did you replace it with?

[@123loveyourland]

I haven’t specifically amended with an outside product since I replace the soil. And when I did replace the soil, I had multiple and lengthy conversations with the supplier that I chose so I knew exactly what was in their compost soil mixture. Specifically, where they make the compost, it is nowhere near any sort of cattle or horse farm where they spray for pig weed and things like that.

[@juliehatzell1081]

@@123loveyourland Thank you for your reply and for doing this video. It's a terrible problem, I feel very disheartened, but determined to figure out how to remedy it. Lol, I'm certainly learning more about soil science than I ever thought I would! Have a great day.

[@GerryStilton]

Yeah that's what mine have. So disappointing

[@dezc3506]

Showing the leaf curl instead of the flower would've been helpful

[@wipeoutxl21]

did they ever recover?

[@Katydidit]

I am wondering on the long term affect on her beds, and how did she remediate this issue??

[@user-cv1xe9yf3f]

Do you eat the tomatoes from the poisoned plants? I poisoned my plants by mulching with hay that I had bought for my horses. It had been sprayed with Grazon most likely because the leaves just curled up and the plants didn't grow much. I didn't eat the tomatoes or other veggies they produced. It's not supposed to be harmful to animals or people but why should we trust what they tell us?

[@123loveyourland]

No I did not eat anything produced by these plants (and I don’t think they produced anything anyways). On the website, it even says not to. And it has a stewardship program to which you agree that if you use their chemical, you promise not to use the excrement from that livestock for compost.

[@stevengordon2145]

Why would any farmer want to spray that crap on there soil. It's just crazy to me... Heath should be more important than money Greed will be the death of humanity, unless we stop this madness

[@ArthurHau]

That shit is not supposed to be used for farming, but for golf courses!

[@pinballwizard6906]

These persistent herbicides have ruined gardening due to long life, who needs these in soil for 3 years or more before it degrades

[@country4lyfe365]

I just killed my whole garden. I'm a 41 year old man and due to my whole families dependance on this garden I'm crying . This is bullshit , I'm sorry for my language. I'm so upset. I spent so much time saveing my seeds n money.

[@123loveyourland]

Randall I am sooooo sorry. I cried too. Many times that season. Like I said in the video, get some pots from the recycle center and grow something, anything, in them. I really know how much this sucks and, yes, it’s bullshit. I’m sorry. :(

[@country4lyfe365]

@@123loveyourland Ohhh it's on. I tilled up my actual front lawn. I'll be thee chevy chase of plant placement this season "everywhere" but I'm not giving up. Lol . I treat these plants like familly pets is why it's so hard for me. Lol. When I notice one, I haveta transplant every volunteer I find ,n baby it till it's a 5 ft tomatoe plant. Lol. Between you and me , I think they "feel" . Lol. I know they're just plants but I get caught talking to them all the time. Lmao. Haaaa Haha. God bless. Chris. Indiana.

[@123loveyourland]

Ha! I hear ya! I’ve only recently stopped rooting pruned stems and planting those as well lol. It just feels wrong to discard them! I still grow and tend to all volunteers tho. Can’t stop me! :)

[@cosmicallyderived]

Let’s get this junk banned. What a terrible product. Horrible.