Amish Funerals. Why the empty graves?

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the amish potato

the amish potato

Жыл бұрын

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@theamishpotato
@theamishpotato Жыл бұрын
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@LetArtsLive
@LetArtsLive Жыл бұрын
When I was camping last summer I was at a park near Lake Ontario north of me. A lot of them rode bicycles and there was a couple horse wagons I had my electric bicycle and a couple of the guys came over and talked to me they were really nice and respectful. Well the Amish stick together more than people out here. Nobody came to my house when my son died and I didn't even get to have a funeral for my own son. I raised my boys myself in Batavia New York my kid's mother took the remains home and never brought them back and I almost got arrested cuz of what I told her because it's horrific not to be able to mourn at a funeral with other people and have closure. It should be illegal but it's not and I will never speak to my kid's mother again cuz I have nothing good to say I don't know what the Amish people do but I believe you're supposed to forgive people and I'm not going to on this case ever! People where I live used to have funerals in the house I live in they call it the parlor. Wow that's a lot of wagons I think the Amish people will out survive anybody on earth besides Farmers like me while I used to be a farmer I can survive anything
@hsmidali8545
@hsmidali8545 Жыл бұрын
I m sorry for your son oh God 🙏 is very sad to go to your son funeral and be alone without your family and your friends.i'm sorry my English it's not good.I was crying it's so emotional
@danm5076
@danm5076 Жыл бұрын
What town are you from I have a first cousin in Sioux Falls or around that area his name is Dan mast maybe you know him. I'm in Northern Indiana right now
@bendover4154
@bendover4154 Жыл бұрын
@@LetArtsLive Apparently the Amish are stronger than both of us. I couldn't / wouldn't forgive that either. Someone could ruin my life on accident and I could very likely get over it. However... the slightest infraction, with intent, and we have an ongoing problem. On the other hand, don't allow someone to take up space in your head without paying rent. This transgression is 100% on them. If closure was meant to be, it will come. Be patient & pay attention.
@bendover4154
@bendover4154 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about Amish schools. I heard you mention that the vast majority don't go beyond 8th grade. What is taught and how?
@marthasundquist5761
@marthasundquist5761 Жыл бұрын
When my dad was passing, our church came and sang him off into heaven. It was very touching as he sang in chior.
@franklinstephen3268
@franklinstephen3268 Жыл бұрын
Hello 👋how are you doing?
@joygibson484
@joygibson484 Жыл бұрын
That was a very kind act that your church family did. How blessed your family must have felt.
@virginiakeim
@virginiakeim Жыл бұрын
God Bless. What a wonderful thing to do.
@blazefairchild465
@blazefairchild465 Жыл бұрын
❤that was very beautiful of them to do 🙏🏼
@commodoresixfour7478
@commodoresixfour7478 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good way to go. Vary cool.
@lizzieturbeville4089
@lizzieturbeville4089 Жыл бұрын
My sister lost her husband 3 months ago very unexpectedly. The area they lived in, really rallied around get and even came and mowed their lawn this summer so she didn't have to. You are so right, yes while its good to surround them right after, they need more then just that week or so. He was ready to go and we are so thankful!
@BJ2020_
@BJ2020_ Жыл бұрын
Not Amish. Having being widowed suddenly at 47 services over, yes you are abandoned. I washed a load of laundry 14 times just could not put in dryer. Silly but true, especially counting. What and who got me through one kiss or hug at a time were my dogs.
@believeinjesus8862
@believeinjesus8862 Жыл бұрын
A good Christian church will have help and meals lined up. I know that when I had my babies, they did that....🤔
@BJ2020_
@BJ2020_ Жыл бұрын
@@believeinjesus8862 since I am not affiliated to any church, a friend held my husbands memorial at his church. I know his church members meant well when saying things to me like “ he is in God’s hands now ( a good God would not take him ) God needed him ( Not as much as I needed him ) God gave you many years with him ( no we still had at least 30+ years left) etc etc. None of these words were comforting. Who is he to take a good man when you let the likes of Manson rot in jail. I know this is why I found so much comfort in my animals. I would never embarrass my friend but I wanted to scream out on how non comforting those words are and now I know why I belong to no church!
@richardsims1805
@richardsims1805 Жыл бұрын
I wish that more communities were as organized and helpful to the bereaved as the Amish community.
@onemercilessming1342
@onemercilessming1342 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in a farming community in the post war years. Up until the late 1960s, the community rallied around the family of the deceased. Food was brought, and the house cleaned. Family, neighbors, friends were there until no longer needed. Then the immediate family continued to help. My father's mother lost her husband just before Pearl Harbor happened. She was watched over and cared for by her daughters and son and the grandchildren. She moved into our home during the 1970s and lived there until she passed away. She lived as a widow almost forty years and never had a care for a roof over her head or food or any other need. We should still be so loving toward our people.
@darlenebarbour6720
@darlenebarbour6720 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing factual information with us. You have a very nice voice, clear, and a respectful way of presenting important information. May you be richly blessed .
@bendover4154
@bendover4154 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be a very popular channel if he's able to continue.
@rhill3838
@rhill3838 Жыл бұрын
I agree. We all need to step up during the hard times of friends and family
@stephanieroberts105
@stephanieroberts105 Жыл бұрын
Recently had a young Amish boy pass in a tragic accident. My dads a farmer and works closely with this family (this family in particular taps our trees for maple syrup) so, my dad and I took a cake over to the home.. the one thing that stood out to me was how nobody was shedding a single tear. They were all visiting... the man who greeted my and and I in the driveway one of the first things he asked was if we wanted to see the child. I declined because I didn't want to invade on their personal thing and because I knew I'd bawl like a baby.. but I was shocked.. not bad shocked but just... the acceptance and the understanding was overwhelming.
@kamikazekid94
@kamikazekid94 Жыл бұрын
That’s heartwarming that they take care of each other and help the families mourning what a wonderful thing to do
@michaelb7798
@michaelb7798 Жыл бұрын
This is similar to the Appalachian Baptists I grew up with in Southeast Kentucky, there was always the body at home or in a church for a 24 hr wake where the body is not left alone that last night going into the burial service the following day, typically 2 days preceding this of 3 to 4 hr viewings with church service and singings, at the funeral a pass by Farewell by the attenders to the family, I too think these traditional practices are much better than modern funerals, people provide help and food and look out for their neighbors and extended family
@deborahroper5539
@deborahroper5539 Жыл бұрын
Very similar to Maori funerals in New Zealand, even down to the helping fill the grave in. I'm not Maori but agree, these funeral traditions are so much better than modern funerals.
@inisipisTV
@inisipisTV Жыл бұрын
Same thing in the Philippines, which are predominantly Catholic. A lot of local Wakes are held in the deceased’s home where there is a 24 vigil for week, Family and Friend would gather around and held Dirges and Mass during the night. If the home is quite small the area of the wake would extend into the street where they would closed one lane and set up Tarpaulin and chairs and tables. A lot of those keeping vigil outside would go around drinking and sing terrible Karaoke in the street much to the annoyance to the neighbors who have to go to work in the morning.
@1951kvk
@1951kvk Жыл бұрын
In my Moms family they waked the dead at home until the funeral. Someone was always up 24/7 and food and beverages served to family who were coming from long distances. I vividly remember my Mom's dad's wake when I was four.
@lauraswihart4816
@lauraswihart4816 Жыл бұрын
YES! I went to my husband's Mom's funeral- in Falcon Ky it was up on a hill, but lovely 🌹
@virginiakeim
@virginiakeim Жыл бұрын
God Bless.
@michellemontgomery-jones2579
@michellemontgomery-jones2579 Жыл бұрын
Our family was so separated that when my Momma died, I was the only one with her. Afterwards, my co-workers were there with me. I was sort of glad that people were less attentive as I just wanted and needed to be alone to work through the idea that Momma was gone.
@quicksilver4547
@quicksilver4547 Жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly that we should not just leave the family in need after losing a loved one. Even after chores, harvesting, or auctions are done, we should be involved with them to get them through the mourning period. They need the support after the funeral too.
@theamishpotato
@theamishpotato Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@qqq1q1qqqqqqq
@qqq1q1qqqqqqq Жыл бұрын
This is such an important comment!!! I know from experience. In Sept 2021 my husband died from COVID and we were left totally alone. My parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc, never even called to check on us. Because of the circumstances in our situation there was no funeral. My husband was cremated (he wanted it that way but I still have trouble with it) and I had his remains split between me and his sister. I felt as if it was the right thing to do, especially since we lived fairly far from his family. His sister kept in contact, but it was nothing more than a ruse, all about some money. Once the money was a no-go we never heard from her again. The only contact I've had with my in-laws since then was at the funeral of one of our granddaughters. Only two of my brothers in law spoke to me. I talked to one nephew, whom I hadn't seen since he was a baby, and a niece who still stays in touch with me. My family members turned their backs on us when we needed them the most. And for petty reasons. My mother went so far as to tell my daughter it was "stupid" to want to see her dad before he passed away. I can't grasp how someone can even think that's ok to say to their grandchild. My daughter was 24 at the time but it didn't hurt her any less than if she had been 14. I've had two cousins who actually came to my house. One is the daughter of the other and she grew up with my kids. Otherwise, no support of any kind from my immediate family and almost none from other family members. My work family became my real family at that point. They are the ones who hugged me and allowed me to cry on their shoulders. My husband and I had been separated at the time of his death but we had children, grandchildren and over 25 years of history together. I'm human, it hurt. More than I thought it would. I do believe God spared him from going through the tragic loss of our second oldest granddaughter on May 24th of this year. I FIRMLY believe if he'd been alive when that happened, we would have been dealing with both their deaths at the same time. It would have just been too much.. I know God did the best thing for us in a bad situation. But I do believe support is needed for those dealing with the loss of a loved one. And don't just assume someone else is checking in. The pain my heart suffered from the abandonment of those related to me in my time of grief still haunts me a year later. I don't want anyone else going through that. When my granddaughter passed away it was due to a school shooting and the whole world rallied around the families. I am unbelievably grateful for that. But it shouldn't take the deaths of 21 people on at an elementary school to bring out the goodness in our fellow man. Yes, we deal with death and loss every day in this world, but we should NEVER have to deal with it alone.
@akehapkap6143
@akehapkap6143 Жыл бұрын
I'm not religious or anything, but I agree to that. It's amazing that the neighbours come and take over the chores. But in my country, of a close relative die, you can get a sick leave app 2 weeks. Paid BTW. But it's coincidental how many people you have to support you. Since most elderly over 70 in my country works, it must be the children or other relatives. If you don't have any relatives (and it's not that uncommon, some die alone) it's the county that takes care of the funeral. Then it's cremation and an urn in a common grave, unless you have a testament to demand otherwise.
@TheCatman
@TheCatman Жыл бұрын
Yep... I agree. I was (unfortunately) able to attend a funeral for one of the Amish community members (who I used to drive for) who succumbed to his injuries sustained in a accident that happened. He and his family were hit by a car that "didn't see the buggy", and he was in a comma for 2months, before he passed away. During that period time, I drove the family down to the hospital he was at so that they could spend time to sing to him through an open window(this was Covid period, and they were not allowing anyone inside, and luckily it was a ground level room). It was beautiful to hear them singing, by the way. When he passed away, I was so overwhelmed with the outpouring of love and support for the family from not just the community we were in, but from all over Michigan. The days of the funeral (it was like a 3 day ordeal), the final day, I went to the funeral and I was shocked! There was over 900 people that came from all OVER the USA AND CANADA(Ontario). Keep in mind. This Amish community was the 2nd northern most (at the time) community in Michigan. It was also small(maybe 20 families).
@dawnchain1020
@dawnchain1020 Жыл бұрын
How can an englisher not see a buggy? That person had to have been really distracted to not see it.
@bobbrinkerhoff3592
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Жыл бұрын
​@@dawnchain1020 the same way "They didn't see the motorcyclist " , either they don't pay attention or they just don't care .
@oceanlover1663
@oceanlover1663 Жыл бұрын
@@dawnchain1020 try driving at 55 mph at night and coming over a hill and there's the buggy! When I am driving in Amish area, I am always watching for them!
@oceanlover1663
@oceanlover1663 Жыл бұрын
Same for my aunt, a tiny Amish community out in the sticks and over 500 people show up! Crazy to think about it.
@rs3007
@rs3007 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! The community they have and the love they have for each other.
@jackgetman6168
@jackgetman6168 Жыл бұрын
I just found you on KZbin yesterday thank you for sharing things with us. I’ve always been curious about the Amish. I live in Kansas, and we have an Amish community in the next county over there. real nice people it’s nice to kind of know a little about how they do things
@karenenglish4900
@karenenglish4900 Жыл бұрын
My Amish family is in KS. Are you near Garnett or Hutchison?
@jackgetman6168
@jackgetman6168 Жыл бұрын
@@karenenglish4900 actually the group that I live by is near Oswego Kansas A Amish guy from Hutchinson put doors in my shop he works for Sturdi Bilt
@oceanlover1663
@oceanlover1663 Жыл бұрын
I been to one Amish funeral, my first and very likely my last. It was for my aunt. Because there's a large amount of people in the family that don't know PA Dutch, they had two services for her, English inside the house and PA Dutch in a tent at the same time. It was an interesting experience and there's a number similarly between the Amish and Mennonite/Beachy.
@rcval
@rcval Жыл бұрын
If somebody comiting suicaid probably was mentally sick and suffering so WAY punish and humiliate his family? That’s not love of God .that’s human cruelty
@user-vm5ud4xw6n
@user-vm5ud4xw6n Жыл бұрын
The idea that they come in and do all those things is wonderful!! How gracious of them. I agree that we can do better!!
@sandin6689
@sandin6689 Жыл бұрын
Being from Alaska, we found the Amish culture very interesting. Traveling through Pennsylvania we stopped at a farm selling eggs. We talked with the oldest brother for about an hour. Very pleasant and educating visit. Abraham was as curious about Alaska as we were his community. Thoroughly enjoyed your video. Christ is all about grace, unmerited favor. A beautiful gift. Looking forward to future videos👍👍
@andyp5853
@andyp5853 Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks CJ for sharing this 🙏
@nancyross3964
@nancyross3964 Жыл бұрын
When my dad passed everyone came & dropped off food than let the family be with just us. We had a wonderful community
@andrewyoder88
@andrewyoder88 Жыл бұрын
Ex Holmes County Amish fella here. I think one of the things that helps Amish families cope and grieve the loss of the family member is other families of that congregation and ones nearby will come visit on Sunday afternoons or sometimes in the evening during the week. And they might not specifically talk very much about the family member that passed, but they understand the reason they are there to visit and the conversations along with also the biweekly church services helps give the feeling of some form of normalcy even if it might only be for a few hours
@bobbidell3591
@bobbidell3591 Жыл бұрын
Been awhile since I've watched one of your vids. You said something very important...we could learn so much from our Amish neighbors about real community.
@russellhancock9765
@russellhancock9765 Жыл бұрын
I think Our Funerals are way to fancy. There is nothing You can do for the person once they are gone.
@leeannjohnson1808
@leeannjohnson1808 Жыл бұрын
I agree! I plan to be cremated, and I've told friends to mix my ashes with potting soil and plant a tree instead of spending $10K on a plot of land and a fancy box, then go have a party with food, music and laughter. I'm 56 and have many friends and family on the Other Side, so my death will be a happy time for me. I don't want people crying over me!
@840kat
@840kat Жыл бұрын
Ty for sharing all of this!
@vanessahinds8320
@vanessahinds8320 Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. Thank you for sharing!
@eliyoder491
@eliyoder491 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much CJ for explaining this funeral process and Also for explaining the old order Amish process since they are much more strict like my community in Kenton. The Dan church is even a level stricter when it comes to someone leaving the Amish church
@rociinolte9473
@rociinolte9473 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, congratulations.
@tlembro
@tlembro Жыл бұрын
This is wonderful…..I grew up in the south….and we always brought food and helped out the family any way we could. Someone would stay whether family or friends. Ongoing help is always needed both at home and possibly counseling as well.
@rowenaboone7740
@rowenaboone7740 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for also including your input. Helped. Me. Alot.
@marymarmande8446
@marymarmande8446 Жыл бұрын
Wow ❤ we should all learn from these beautiful people. Thank you so much for sharing
@amc5936
@amc5936 Жыл бұрын
I am glad you left and have your freedom, your a good man. i am sure being amish may have done you some good, but living with that much control is ridiculous.
@houndlover870
@houndlover870 Жыл бұрын
You have a beautiful dog! I have always wondered. I grew up near a Mennonite community and they did some of the same things you talk about. Also, where I am originally from in Upstate NY, they occasionally dug extra graves in the fall, in anticipation of winter deaths.
@chadnga8
@chadnga8 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! thx for sharing. I'm going to go check out you other videos!
@radicalnomad1
@radicalnomad1 Жыл бұрын
When my grandpa passed away, the church placed us ex-Amish folks farther from the casket (all of them were my grandpa's children, grandchildren, and spouses to the kids). My ex-Amish cousin and his family came in late and the church was full so they pulled up a few more chairs and placed him directly in front of the casket 😆 after we all filed past and my grandma was up by the casket one more time, 3 or 4 of her ex- Amish kids went up and put their arm around her. So that was pretty cool. Something the Amish wouldn't do.
@radicalnomad1
@radicalnomad1 Жыл бұрын
Also, the ex-Amish kids were excited for him. Yes it's a change but my grandpa had lived a full life and was ready to go. He had a few experiences in his last weeks that we know he's in heaven.
@therealz360z7
@therealz360z7 Жыл бұрын
Sadly families don't look out for one another anymore, my aunt made food and I helped too and she was surprised people just assume it's gonna be catered nowadays, I didn't go with my aunt it was her former sil's mom but later on after the meal when she came home she said we were the only people who made food! I guess I'm old fashioned because if there's been a accident or a sick family member that's near critical I'm gonna make a meal and take it over or I'll have my husband drop it off because sadly im the only family member that still does that (56y.o) I don't care if the young ones make fun of me .
@rubigee4397
@rubigee4397 Жыл бұрын
Really?! I thought ALL families/cultures helped with chores/finances and cooked for funerals! Shoot, we had food for weeks, and family/friends donated money to us when my dad passed. For context, I’m from a Latino family
@gregmurray9125
@gregmurray9125 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Coldwater Michigan! New subscriber
@sandrarandazzo5172
@sandrarandazzo5172 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you!
@johnmulder4121
@johnmulder4121 Жыл бұрын
Keep making videos. Thanks.
@pamelapittman3080
@pamelapittman3080 Жыл бұрын
Lovely. I do wish the Amish understood a personal relationship with our savior.
@robertclubs9908
@robertclubs9908 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up.
@bettyfeliciano7322
@bettyfeliciano7322 Жыл бұрын
I belong to an Apostolic Pentecostal church and we call the gather of family and friends as a “Celebration of Life “, because we know they’re with Jesus! ❤️✝️
@carolynrains75
@carolynrains75 Жыл бұрын
The Amish are very caring and supportive to the family in Mourning 🥰
@oceanlover1663
@oceanlover1663 Жыл бұрын
The interesting part is, the mourning part stop once the graveside service is over. I was a little surprised and asked my dad about it and he said, oh that's common. I been to one Amish funeral which was for my aunt and everyone want to talk to me afterwards. I met a number of my distance family for the first time. Alot of them are my second and third cousins.
@NiceMuslimLady
@NiceMuslimLady Жыл бұрын
@@oceanlover1663 In my religion it's a bit different. We wash and bury the body quick, ASAP. We have a Janazah prayer and bury the body within 24 hours, if possible. There is argument over autopsies. We don't embalm the dead. If the death is unexpected, we the Janazah and burial as quickly as possible, even if not within 24 hours. Members of the community will typically leave the family alone other than give them food. We don't do the "reception where the family provides food for people". "They just lost a loved one...and now they're supposed to ENTERTAIN you?" kind of thing. Some mosques apparently don't allow women to attend the Janazah, however, there is no evidence from Qur'an or Hadith for this. However, women should not go to the graveyard.
@leeannjohnson1808
@leeannjohnson1808 Жыл бұрын
I watch a KZbin channel called "Kari the Mortician". She answers questions that her viewers ask her and one of the questions was about female morticians at Muslim funerals. She lives in Michigan, so things might be different where you live. I say that with respect and sincerity. She said if the deceased is male, only men were allowed to attend to the deceased, go to the cemetery, etc. If the deceased was female, only women were allowed. To me, a Christian, that sounds very respectful. As someone who is very modest when it comes to being in public, I appreciated the separation of the sexes, even after death. I watched a video several years ago where the deceased was an infant. The man attending to the body, bathed them under a cover for the sake of modesty.
@NiceMuslimLady
@NiceMuslimLady Жыл бұрын
@@leeannjohnson1808 Yes. However, there is one exception. The spouse is allowed to wash the body.
@christopheravila3454
@christopheravila3454 Жыл бұрын
God bless you all,I hope you all live forever.
@Liz_678
@Liz_678 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting 🧐 Thanks!
@k9insomniac783
@k9insomniac783 Жыл бұрын
Where I live, I’m close to several Amish communities. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with the people I’ve met. Of course, my interaction has been from the outside. I’ve often wondered about the people such as yourself that has chosen to leave the community and I have to say this… I can’t imagine how hard it was to leave. I know there’s things you probably keep close to your heart that you don’t care to share, which I totally understand. The best thing about your leaving is learning about the love and grace of Jesus Christ. There’s a totally different outlook between the preaching of the Amish (almost seems to be totally Old Testament teaching) of course this is my opinion. May the Lord bless you and give you deep peace brother.
@loganhoopes7877
@loganhoopes7877 Жыл бұрын
I'm 21 years old and lost my dad a few months ago. It's been hard; but my mom, my brothers and I have been so blessed to be part of a faithful, Bible-believing church whose members have truly demonstrated the love of Christ to us as His Body. Even three months after, we're still being provided with occasional meals, financial help, phone calls to check in on us, and countless other things. It almost brings me to tears thinking about how this indescribable love others are showing us is just a small reflection of how much Christ first loved us. As far as I know, my dad wasn't a believer. I just have to trust my dad to God's care - knowing that God pursues the lost sheep and is all-wise, never making mistakes. The situation brings to mind both a song I've been listening to by the Gettys: "The Perfect Wisdom of Our God"; and Isaiah 55:8-9: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (ESV) Thanks for the video, and blessings.
@susanbackus157
@susanbackus157 Жыл бұрын
That is so loving for the Amish community! When my family died, grand parents, then my mom and dad. All died within 2 years. I was 19 at the end of all their lives. I had no support from my extended family. I am 70 and still hurts today.
@kimkrebs451
@kimkrebs451 Жыл бұрын
This was interesting. I learned something new
@silverss396chevelle
@silverss396chevelle Жыл бұрын
I truly love your candidness and your personal conviction. I wish more Christians would show that part of their faith. Your videos are teaching me more about my neighbors here in Wyoming. Mennonites are thriving in our small community of Basin Wyoming. Their kids have their own school, they provide a very no nonsense workforce to some small businesses, and not all farm. Some have construction, and various other manual labor services. Their church services are even open to the public.
@bendover4154
@bendover4154 Жыл бұрын
I'm new here but love your channel. While there are many aspects of the Amish lifestyle that I'm genuinely impressed with, there are a few (very few) I can't agree with. One topic you mentioned was "going to Hell". Apparently the Amish leaders either didn't read The Bible or had difficulties comprehending what it says. While I'm not at all religious, I have studied The Bible in great length. It is common belief that if one doesn't believe in GOD, they are destined to "burn in Hell for eternity." First thing, NOWHERE in The Bible does it state that! That myth comes from the book Dante's Inferno. Some have used it to coerce others into submission into various religions. For example, as a parent, is there ANYTHING your child could do to warrant such a punishment as burning in Hell for eternity? Think hard... burning sucks and eternity is a very long time. Now... all that for simply not worshipping you? There is absolutely no way anyone will ever convince me that GOD is capable of such drastic measure. What about an infant or child or even an adult with mental illness that isn't capable of comprehending GOD? Using the same logic, what happens to them? Are they subject to severe punishment over something they had no control over? After watching several of your videos... in a row, it saddens me that I chose this one to comment on first. I'm certain that I failed to make a favorable impression. For that I apologize... but felt it needed to be stated. I'm both intrigued and impressed with the Amish in general and have a plethora of questions I'd like to ask. I sincerely hope that my initial introduction hasn't burned a bridge. I live on a ranch in Arizona so due to logistics alone, it's unlikely we can meet in person. Perhaps if you are willing, you can answer decades worth of questions via email. Thanks.
@jeanadamsick9854
@jeanadamsick9854 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR SHARING!!!! YOUR EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED TO THE TRUTH. *THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE. *THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. DO take care. Fl.
@bendover4154
@bendover4154 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be incredibly long so I'll apologize in advance. A dear friend that some here may have heard of (Dr. Carl Sagan, famous scientist / astronomer & tv personality) passed away. I was devistated. Adding to that I was asked not to come to his funeral as it was intended for family only. (That turned out to not be true!) His death hit me much harder than expected and I needed closure. After his funeral I traveled to NY, found an "unmarked" but freshly disturbed grave right next to his parents. Obviously belonging to my friend. Before I had a chance to say Goodbye, I couldn't help but notice among the flowers, a radio-telescope made of Lego bricks. Obviously a tribute from Carl's very young son Sam. That hit me like a truck! I was so wrapped up in my own grief that little Sam never crossed my mind. Now I'm not (usually) very emotional, but that was way over the top. Once again, I wasn't able to say "goodbye". Biting my lip, I pushed my feelings deep inside myself. Fast forward years later... Nasa had a program for kids "Send Your Name To Mars" where kids could submit their name to be added to a DVD that would travel to Mars. While I was aware of it, didn't think much of it other than it was a neat idea. Fast forward again, I was at NASA in California watching the live video feed of the Mars rovers, "Spirit & Opportunity" as they were deployed. While the first was slowly driving off the platform I noticed the camera pan over the DVD! It was fastened to the platform with three Lego bricks held down with screws! I about fell over! Evidently someone else saw Sam's tribute to his father and took it a step further. The surface of the DVD had a binary code printed on it. The first few kids to successfully decode the message won a special assortment of Lego bricks. FYI The message was... "Wish you were here." For those interested Google "Mars DVD" for images. It should be available. Anyway, I finally got the closure I so desperately needed. Once again, I'm not religious but that's nothing short of a miracle. It's pretty humbling to think GOD would take the time to make something like that happen for someone as insignificant as me. So... if you ever need a sign from GOD, first & foremost, be patient... he's busy! Second, don't expect it to obvious... it can come from any direction and not even close to what you might expect. So pay attention!
@Corgis175
@Corgis175 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you that only God can judge the outcome of anyone's final placement, not the Amish or other religious doctrine.
@southwife
@southwife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Biblical commentary. Godspeed.
@landrybalbin560
@landrybalbin560 Жыл бұрын
Yup that’s Eli Yoder’s family , I don’t blame them for taking those fence down !
@carolinekaplan542
@carolinekaplan542 Жыл бұрын
is it the Eli yoder from shipshewana area? he was a bisho0p and would have been about 80?
@Dwayne707countryliving
@Dwayne707countryliving Жыл бұрын
Great video... suicide is a very sad thing. if people would just realize things do get better
@TheLifeofaHomemaker
@TheLifeofaHomemaker Жыл бұрын
Yep we can definitely do better mourning with those who mourn.
@susanwilliams1881
@susanwilliams1881 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@willworkforyarn4893
@willworkforyarn4893 Жыл бұрын
Those glasses make you look so smart!!
@erickingsbury7193
@erickingsbury7193 Жыл бұрын
They were not Amish but my mother and father grew-up on farms. Now, mom is now 87 and dad would've been in his 90's but the description of how the community comes together with the Amish sounds like how the farm community comes together at least in my parent's time.
@youngnurse9994
@youngnurse9994 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day , when someone passed away , like he said , the community would come clean your house , bring cooked foods, do what ever needs to be done . Those days are LONG GONE !! SMH
@emmib1388
@emmib1388 Жыл бұрын
unfortunately, as a culture, we have given up 'community' with everyone working and scheduled activities -- nobody knows their neighbor because they are never home and when they do , they are frightened to even say hello to someone else
@karenenglish4900
@karenenglish4900 Жыл бұрын
Good job C.J. I don't believe Amish invest in expensive vaults, either. During COVID-19. I missed several Amish funerals in IN when aunts and uncles passed away. When an aunt passed, her children and spouses came from KS, MO, PA, and elsewhere. 13 out of 14 got the virus. Her sister died a few weeks later. It was a very sad season and I was not able to be with my family. I was able to be in IN Labor Day weekend and go to reunions and love on my family and meet cousins and their families. While I was in Goshen, my brother died. It was special that some of those cousins came to his viewing or funeral. God bless family support!! Keep up your teaching of our ancestral ways. Appreciate it.
@theamishpotato
@theamishpotato Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@matthewturan9343
@matthewturan9343 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Berks County Pennsylvania. Those were very strick up there. Things have very much changed over the years. I'm in Kentucky now, the Amish community here is very relaxed.
@chestinebentley1818
@chestinebentley1818 Жыл бұрын
When my dad passed away no family or he's friend's did not bring me nothing .....they did the same when my mother passed 4 years later..l lived in there home.then my dad gave me the house.but no one came checked on me..l am 68 and l had a hard time dealing with everyone doing this..it saden me to this day.they all ways we t to church .but no one came..
@judyking241
@judyking241 Жыл бұрын
That would be the answer to fixing what ails our nation, at least a very blessed attitude adjustment...... Soo needed.
@larryholland7192
@larryholland7192 Жыл бұрын
Great expectations!!
@BettyBoo1104
@BettyBoo1104 Жыл бұрын
I love your ways...
@bendover4154
@bendover4154 Жыл бұрын
I mentioned to my father that I thought spending a fortune on a casket / coffin the family will only see for a short time was foolish. His reply was great! He said buy it early then before it's needed you can use it as a coffee table, storage and even a guest bed for the in-laws when they insist on visiting. That last one, all by itself, would make it worth any price!
@danaeads919
@danaeads919 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted a toe-pincher casket (popular in the 1800s Old West) so I could use it as a coffee table in life and use it to store momentos that I want to be buried with. When I die, cremate me, add my ashes and place in the grave.
@marilynyoder517
@marilynyoder517 Жыл бұрын
I wonder where you got the info about Dan Church? I grew up in Ohio in the middle of the community where the Dan church started. I have never heard of the gravestone thing when someone leaves.
@karenknapp4918
@karenknapp4918 Жыл бұрын
The English could learn a lot about caring for their community from the Amish! And yeah I grew up around the Amish. I grew up in Illinois near Arcola and the Amish community there. Very nice people.
@dianetaillon9875
@dianetaillon9875 Жыл бұрын
Yes you are so right I know some Amish are becoming born again I would love to see all of them born again
@lisasager9400
@lisasager9400 Жыл бұрын
I think that is not fair to exclude family members who left Amish community when a family member passed . They still love that person just as much as the ones who are still Amish.
@houndlover870
@houndlover870 Жыл бұрын
The idea of community continuing to look after others that have had their lives forever changed by death of a father, mother etc.. just doesn't seem to exist any more. I think we all yearn for it but it's hard to get back once it is gone.
@emmib1388
@emmib1388 Жыл бұрын
there are still some that do it -- but for the most part, our culture has changed to an everyone for themselves culture -- but consider why it happens --- as a culture in general -- we drop our children off at day care at six weeks old to fend for themselves....
@beloveddaughter8585
@beloveddaughter8585 Жыл бұрын
Each if us can initiate the change by DOING ourselves what we would like to see happen. Others will observe and maybe join in. A pebble in a pool of water. 😅
@emmib1388
@emmib1388 Жыл бұрын
@@beloveddaughter8585 exactly! Always 'love' the comments from others when they say 'they should..." No - you start and let everyone else follow :-) So easy to tell others what they should do...
@believeinjesus8862
@believeinjesus8862 Жыл бұрын
I think the "helping" aspect is wonderful. However, I do prefer a "Celebration of Life" with joyous songs, praises and music unto the Lord. 👏🏻👍🏻💕
@michaelciccone2194
@michaelciccone2194 Жыл бұрын
I sure wish I had such people in my life.
@slycat2355
@slycat2355 Жыл бұрын
When he described the day of the funeral, I said to myself “Oh! It’s just like a Black funeral!” I mean all the way down to the length of time for the funeral and having the meal where the service was held after coming back from the cemetery. The one difference is that only the people from the funeral home are allowed to put the dirt on the casket because it’s too dangerous getting near the grave. After reading some of the other comments, I realized that I needed to add some info. First thing, I’m from the South in a small town community where it used to be mainly farming for everyone a couple of generations ago (I’m 49.) I think that in the South, people are generally helpful to each other even regardless of race in some communities. It’s a beautiful thing to see.
@VOTEREPUBLICANS594
@VOTEREPUBLICANS594 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@stephaniehand503
@stephaniehand503 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@darlaballenger2357
@darlaballenger2357 Жыл бұрын
I take food to the family of one who passed away. People always ask why I do that. That's what I was thought and seen. I think what you said about the church and others is perfect. We all should go back to doing some ways of respect.
@stacycamacho59
@stacycamacho59 Жыл бұрын
my doctor is an ex Amish. from Ohio, her mom and dad were shunned. Well her daddy was, but the entire family left. I ABSOLUTELY love her, and her work. 🥰🥰🥰 They should be proud of her. PNWU.. she is one of the founders.
@julielumsden5184
@julielumsden5184 Жыл бұрын
Our son died in the first weeks of Lockdown we couldn’t even have a funeral as no guidelines were laid out at the time Even my family which is large were not permitted to come to our home. Not only did we suffer a loss but also missed the closeness of family
@lindac6416
@lindac6416 Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry 😢 . I wish I had some comforting words but there are none . That’s is so hard what you lived through .
@SRoseBlog
@SRoseBlog Жыл бұрын
This is beyond sad. Hope you find peace
@onemercilessming1342
@onemercilessming1342 Жыл бұрын
I remember as a child (1950s), that suicides and unbaptised babies were buried outside the hallowed ground of the cemetery. Twin girls born to my grandmother died within hours of their birth (1915 or so) and are buried in an unmarked grave outside the hallowed ground of the cemetery as they weren't baptized. And my mother 1930s told of a Jewish man who married outside of the Jewish faith, and his family had a funeral for him with an empty casket, as he was dead to them.
@barbaracarter8129
@barbaracarter8129 Жыл бұрын
So when are you going to have a live talk video ,again ?
@lilafeldman8630
@lilafeldman8630 Жыл бұрын
This sounds very similar to a Jewish funeral. Except Jews don't have viewings and open coffins. Similar rules for suicides, as well. Also simple coffins bc everyone is ultimately equal before God, no matter their station in this life.
@tinahuffman2788
@tinahuffman2788 Жыл бұрын
CJ, do the Amish have to settle a casket into a vault at the burial site? Another great video! Thank you!
@theamishpotato
@theamishpotato Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it goes in to a vault if I remember correctly. Just into the ground. But now you have me questioning myself, maybe they do use vaults🤔
@emmib1388
@emmib1388 Жыл бұрын
some states require vaults while others don't -- i think it may vary from state to state what they do
@fredamiller3482
@fredamiller3482 Жыл бұрын
They make a wooden box for the coffin to sit in when they dig the grave. After they put the coffin in the grave they put boards on top. Hope this makes sense.
@Corgis175
@Corgis175 Жыл бұрын
Similar to other Christian relgions but like you I believe at the time of death the soul goes for judgement and hopefully to heaven. One thing that is very distressing to me as an animal lover is the way the Amish treat their horses and other livestock. Appalling.
@Mrsmadison45
@Mrsmadison45 Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@tricrossranch2518
@tricrossranch2518 Жыл бұрын
I agree, need to check in with family weeks after death of lived one. both my children passed as young adults within a couple of months of each other. realized my family wasn't there for me. the community also wasn't. those that pretended to care and show up at memorial never to see or hear from again. that was winter of 2019. I now hold onto you will know them by there fruit and let the dead bury their dead.
@Marius-dk9je
@Marius-dk9je Жыл бұрын
A lot of Amish also have very plain tombstones. Some are just a small stone slab with initial of the deceased, and others are wooden and wither away after a few years. Rarely will you see the more elaborate burial mounds.
@danielmartin6600
@danielmartin6600 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you what someone accepts Christ you know where they'll be
@renafielding945
@renafielding945 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised that the preparation of the body is relegated to the embalmer and the family doesn’t do this final mercy.
@vickierinehart4434
@vickierinehart4434 Жыл бұрын
Remember as a kid the person was always laid out it was called awake for 3 days and they were buried seems like they don't do that so much anymore. They are laid out for one day now
@lawrenceluckey5984
@lawrenceluckey5984 Жыл бұрын
My grnd mother went through this when she left the Amish community and met my grandfather who was English her Amish husband and children considered her dead
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT presentation, I'm curious about more technical beliefs, do they believe they are a 3 part being, Spirit, Soul, Body, concerning their doctrine of about God, are they trinatarian, or Oneness, to them was Jesus God in the flesh aka body??
@aletamays8782
@aletamays8782 Жыл бұрын
Very educational. I believe as you do. Salvation. John 3:16
@circutrider
@circutrider Жыл бұрын
Good explanation of true Christian belief about death.
@journeyhawk1728
@journeyhawk1728 Жыл бұрын
How are the deceased person's body kept from decomposition until it is buried?
@tammy5590
@tammy5590 Жыл бұрын
CJ I have always read and heard people are not allowed to show grief by crying. I am wondering is this true. It would be very hard no to show emotion.
@theamishpotato
@theamishpotato Жыл бұрын
They are free to cry in our community. Can’t say for sure about all of the communities though.
@tubelover1100
@tubelover1100 Жыл бұрын
do the amish use dewalt power tools?