Ammo Shelf Modification for your gun safe

www.deansafe.com You should store ammo in a safe but you may need to beef up the shelves to take the weight. This video is about cheep, quick and easy Shelf modification to add strength to any gun safe shelf. Shelf Viagra.
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[@sivinelupia4950]

1:32 - "Sorry for the noise." What a true gentleman. GREAT video!

[@dennismeadors5801]

Got a safe and the previous owner was using it to stor his ammo. I noticed that some of the shelves were starting to sag really bad. I was looking up this problem on Goggle and ran across this video. All I can say is Thank You very much. Got my tubing cut it worked great!

[@DeanSafe]

We’re glad you were able to find the video Thanks for watching, John

[@GI_Stacker]

Awesome idea and not to difficult or technical - looking forward to making this modification to my safe! Thanks!

[@garyogreen6958]

Just bought a new safe a couple days ago and was looking for new ideas. I'll be doing this right away. Great idea.

[@DeanSafe]

Thank you for the comment. I hope you find it easier than you figured, John.

[@ericpeterson5935]

Hey, thanks man! Really ingenious idea. I wish I'd thought of it.

[@jessevelasquez4855]

Stumbled upon this vid, very informative. Cannot believe it doesn't have more views!

[@DeanSafe]

+Jesse Velasquez I agree, maybe because it’s so hard to find the right key words for such an oddball subject matter. Nonetheless I hope it helps the people that see it. thanks for watching, John

[@F8lastcallcharger345]

I have a bunch of 1 1/2 aluminum tubing and after this video fixed my safe up real nice. Thank you very much. It was so easy to do and stopped my bowed shelves.

[@DeanSafe]

Great to hear, thanks for the comment, John

[@Renrondog]

Brilliant idea, Thank you for sharing the tip. On my next project list!

[@DeanSafe]

Glad to be of service.

[@davelutz4497]

Simple and brilliant, my top shelf is over 40” and will most certainly sag, not now. Thanks!

[@DeanSafe]

Glad it helped! Thank you for the kind comment, John

[@larkinoo]

Great idea and thank you. And I purchased my beautiful custom Fort Knox 663729 from you guys 2 years ago and I love it. Thanks again !

[@CraigFelts]

You could always make the bottom where you store ammo and raise the guns up higher make them sit almost at the top of the safe depending on how big the safe is but ofc you couldn’t fit 20 inch barrels if the same is 40 inches tall

[@DeanSafe]

True, Thanks

[@chrissewell1608]

Great idea to strengthen the particle board shelves. You could also use aluminum tubing, which is lighter weight, and never rusts! Possibly even replace all the shelving with a thick, aluminum (diamond plate) sheet metal. Cover it in carpet, or just rubber trim on the edges, to prevent scratches & cuts!

[@DeanSafe]

Great suggestions, thank you and thanks for watching, John

[@craig7bishop770]

Love this DIY idea! Thank for sharing. I was planning to build new shelves but this will be my fix.

[@DeanSafe]

+Craig 7 Bishop So glad I was able to help and thanks for watching, John

[@34dawgsgo]

Very informative. About to purchase a medium size stand up home gun safe. Thanks.

[@DeanSafe]

Perfect look us up, John,

[@34dawgsgo]

@@DeanSafe About $44 a shelf from the big box store. Piece of mind knowing your pistols and ammo will not break.

[@RealCptHammonds]

Thank you for posting this video!!! I'll be installing your style of shelf support tomorrow in my Steelwater since I've anchored it this morning. I also be glueing my vertical shelve supports that holds the notched out barrel lean shelf because I'm putting in 1 center shelf to hold a steel slimline sideways file cabinet that I bought on eBay.

[@rommel5241]

2017 video just brought new life into my FK safe!

[@DeanSafe]

Good to hear, John

[@jackreed3445]

I used 3/4"X3/4" aluminum angle, 3M spray adhesive and gray felt from Michaels hobby store to match my safe. Glue on the felt, lift the shelf in back, slide angle over the clips. Do the same for the front. If you need more strength add aluminum angle or strap across the edge of the shelf with the metal facing up the edge of the board without adding to the thickness of the shelf itself. My shelves are wide and deep so I added more angle pieces in the middle of the shelf between the rails too.

[@DeanSafe]

+Jack Reed It sounds very strong, thank you for sharing this valuable information and thanks for watching, John

[@daddyrich559]

Thanks for that idea love the close up and that you had a mic 🎤

[@DeanSafe]

Thanks much, I ’ve been trying hard to get those -roll shots to make easier to understand of what ever I’m trying to show. I appreciate you noticing and I love the Mic also. Thanks again, John

[@bradjones7778]

Great video and very helpful. Thank you for making it.

[@texputter7928]

Great idea, thanks for posting it! Just bought a new safe and actually have some tubing on hand, so I've got a project.

[@DeanSafe]

Thank you very much, I had some fun making the video I need to do more. Appreciate you making the comment. Thanks, John

[@johnpearson2343]

Looks like just the thing to help my sagging shelves! Thanks!!!

[@DeanSafe]

It will help, Thank you for comment, John

[@charleswatson3706]

Thinking about purchasing the Winchester TS26-45 safe if I purchase it will definitely use this method of sturdiness to the shelves tks for a great idea.

[@DeanSafe]

It will help a lot. Thanks for watching, john

[@carcar5911]

Im about to do this for my safe. The weight will all be on the clips though. How much weight do those clips hold?

[@DeanSafe]

Every manufacture seems to do it a little differently, What we have noticed is, it doesn't seem to be the clips fault. Most of the failures come from the vertical shelf standards getting loose. Great question, Thank You, John

[@BrianaBurnside]

Great video and very helpful! But the most important question is what did you have for lunch?!!

[@DeanSafe]

Thanks, I don't know how I over look that, Three tacos and maybe a margarita. I normally shoot after work, it's quieter so in this case it was for dinner. Thanks Much, John

[@brentjacobs7083]

Been looking for a quick fix. Thanks.

[@DeanSafe]

Glad we were able to help. Thank you for watching, John.

[@bourbonenthusiasts]

Very nice modification.

[@daddyrich559]

That's a great tip I will be applying your method to my safe as soon as its delivered..thank you

[@BlueRidgeCritter]

I know I’m late to the party, but this is a really good idea, and I just wanted to say kudos. I wouldn’t have thought to use tubing over the shelf brackets. On a different note, though - might not be a bad idea to encourage people not to put ammunition in a safe. That’s an explosion hazard, especially for fire departments if the house burns. Just something I wanted to mention, most instructors now will tell you never to do it. 😃

[@DeanSafe]

Thanks for additional info. It adds to the value of the Video for all. 👍, John

[@dw5772]

Something tells me that putting ammo in an ammo can in a fire proof safe is far safer then leaving it out in the open or in a drawer (reasons should be obvious). Guess it would depend on the quality of the safe, but putting ammo in a fireproof safe is encouraged by many.

[@TheeDavidT]

Great idea. So in the demonstration you use the strength of the square tubing as a whole. When you place the metal on the shelf clip you actually are only using the top of the square tubing and not the whole square tube, ie. instead of placing the bottom of the square tube on the shelf clip you place the top of the square tube on the clip. Do you think there will be a difference in strength? I’m sure anything will help.

[@DeanSafe]

Maybe, but you don’t lose much with the added benefit that it stays put. It will take a mind better than mine to figure that out, I’m more like a trial and error kind of a guy. Thanks for the great question, John

[@cesarsaavedra3095]

The bars add necessary support to the center. I had a shelf collapse do ti weight. This has fixed my issue. I substituted the steel with aluminum.

[@ccsmith2937]

Solid advice.👍🙏

[@DeanSafe]

Thanks Much, John

[@TheJuls630]

Great job thank you for the great ideas

[@DeanSafe]

You are so welcome!, John

[@craigrogers3163]

My new safe is arriving tomorrow. Outside of safe is 48” wide so I’m guessing the inside is around 42” or so. I want to use 3/4” aluminum square tubing that has 1/8” thick walls. You think the aluminum would be ok or should I use steel? Also will the clip fit inside 3/4” that’s 1/8” thick?

[@DeanSafe]

It should be fine, Please let me know how it turned out 🙂 Thanks, John

[@jimd1968]

Question, I saw a video on a Securit gun cabinet. The sales man brought up the that the carpets & fire insolation has chemicals to that causes corrosion to guns. Is this true?

[@DeanSafe]

When I started in the safe business there were no gun safes but a shocking number of people would buy fire safes and then put gun racks in them and their guns would corrode like crazy. Not an Issue with modern gun safes. Drywall is a pain to install, but done correctly it works great. Great question and thank you for watching, John

[@jimd1968]

@@DeanSafe thank You for your information.

[@davva360]

Good idea

[@DeanSafe]

Many many thanks

[@deplorableredneck4.02]

I have plastic clips in mine to hold the shelves up..going to fix that

[@DeanSafe]

It will help but I might suggest most hardware stores carry metal replacements. Just ask for Knape and Vogt clips aka “KV” clips“ it should be around DYI shelving. Thank for watching, John

[@deplorableredneck4.02]

@@DeanSafe that's what I planned on doing ..thanks

[@The_Wood]

Brilliant! This modification I will use! 👍

[@DeanSafe]

+Woody Powell Glad you liked it. It’s worked well for me for a long time, I figured it was about time to share. Cheers, John

[@jeffstrains4014]

Nothing wrong with some extra support regardless of the brand.

[@thewhiteknight02]

Amazing.

[@DeanSafe]

Thanks much, John

[@justinw123]

Thank you sir my shelves have been sagging in my safe will have to do this modification. If only you had a fix for saggy balls

[@DeanSafe]

+Justin W. If you find a fix for that, please let me know too. Thanks, John

[@appleztooranges]

Can you just store heavy stuff at the bottom of the safe?

[@DeanSafe]

Absolutely, many people do and are very happy. Thanks for watching, John

[@MrSoonermadman]

If your ammo will only fill one shelf absolutely, I have 3 shelves of ammo, this is a great video! Problem solved here!!

[@MrSoonermadman]

If you only have one shelf of ammo then you need more ammo, lol

[@jmcguire42081]

Great video, I just wonder who the 12 losers are that disliked this video.

[@Fly4aWhiteGuy]

You could cut both ends at 45° to make things easy.

[@DeanSafe]

Your right, nothing wrong with cutting both ends at an angle.Thanks for watching,John

[@danielkaplan1978]

Genius.

[@DeanSafe]

+Daniel Kapla Thank you.

[@craigcupo2907]

Great video, my problem that got me to research stronger shelves is that my clips actually bent and collapsed from the weight. Will this trick help that as well?

[@DeanSafe]

+Craig Cupo Depends, you either have really bad clips or just too much weight for the shelf. I’ve see some crummy clips in new safes so take one of the clips th a hardware store and compare yours to the ones they have (KV brand is the benchmark). If you think the shelf side standards can take the weight the two crossbars will still help a lot. Thanks for watching, John

[@jeffstrains4014]

What I did in my safe to prevent issues in the future even though I did not have the partial board. I went to the hardware store and got some pine 1 by, and metal strips that were 1/8 by 1 ½ wide. I cut the metal strips the length of shelves and screwed every 4 inches placed those where the shelves sit on the clips did this for all the shelves. With this, I am still able to use pistol holders, and you cannot see the support. For the side I have ammo storage on I cut the one by pine length the shelves are spaced 9 inches for me, wrapped in a carpet to match safe attached in on sides 2 per shelf. I also reinforced the center divider with a painted metal strip to keep any bowing from ever happening. No issues load tested for few days 150 pounds on every shelf.

[@jacquesmarsacq7840]

Get one.

[@DeanSafe]

Thanks, John

[@RIPPER334]

I've got a 4k dollar liberty... That's not a "cheap" safe... It still sagged under the weight of my handguns. Damn glued together sawdust for a shelf... In a gun safe, should get someone at liberty (and the rest of them) fired. I went to Lowes and had some boards cut, covered then with a very close matching carpet, and used the trim off the old shelves... For less than 50 bucks I fixed a problem that liberty couldn't.

[@DeanSafe]

No,arguments here, probably good you took your matters into your own hands. Nice job, John

[@robertdevore3350]

First of all...the shelves are particle board, which is the crappiest of crap to begin with. Instead of using metal and all that. Simply replace your shelves with actual plywood with facing.

[@BvictoryforChrist]

Now the only thing that can fail is the clips themselves. Good idea though man.

[@DeanSafe]

Your so right, fortunately, they’re quite inexpensive at the hardware store. personally I like the KV clips. Thank you for watching, John

[@MC-uj4co]

Just replace it with 3/4 plywood

[@DeanSafe]

+M C that should work out just fine. Thanks for watching, John

[@necxmodz7352]

SHELF VIAGRA

[@adamsroka432]

How about not put flame retardant stuff in a safe? NOT WOOD?

[@toddk1377]

Not carpet? Not wood or plastic furniture on firearms...not ammo, not gun powder...if the heat goes beyond the safes rating, doesn't matter, it's toast. Should've either buy a better safe or put it somewhere the heat will less likely be concentrated.

[@Urapnes75]

Anyone know what size tubing he uses? 3/4? 1 inch?

[@DaTruth3454]

3/4”

[@DeanSafe]

Either 3/4 or 1 inch would work fantastic! Thank you for watching, John