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@DidiFennecDZ
@DidiFennecDZ 2 күн бұрын
Amorim should never have gone there, this club is a graveyard for coaches and players
@tomodul2619
@tomodul2619 2 күн бұрын
He should have talked to José Mouhrino before taking that job. Van Gaal told Eric Ten Hag not to take United job because he would fail but he didn't listen. Now where is he?
@tonylipsmire5918
@tonylipsmire5918 2 күн бұрын
If you think he went for anything but the money you’re insane. No chance he’d have gone if Sporting was paying him what United does
@GRAMDAVNO1
@GRAMDAVNO1 2 күн бұрын
It's a poisonous chalice for any manager,the problems lie with the owners ,until they go nothing will change.
@andybyrne7271
@andybyrne7271 2 күн бұрын
Turn to the U21s. They'd be miles better than the first team squad. If fitness and a willing to learn is lacking from the first team squad the U21s would certainly give him what he's needing
@chucklombardo8167
@chucklombardo8167 2 күн бұрын
​@@tomodul2619 hes in Holland
@supra4lif3
@supra4lif3 2 күн бұрын
Ratcliffe and ineos are out of their depth
@BURLINGTON-t2v
@BURLINGTON-t2v 2 күн бұрын
But Ratcliffe owns that french team........
@Observe-j7t
@Observe-j7t 2 күн бұрын
So what ​@@BURLINGTON-t2v
@nf3227
@nf3227 2 күн бұрын
spot on
@JamesMIrby
@JamesMIrby 2 күн бұрын
And hag was the cause of this whole mess.
@GRAMDAVNO1
@GRAMDAVNO1 2 күн бұрын
​@@BURLINGTON-t2vand the fans at Lille have been protesting about the bad ownership of their club.
@ID0nat3YT
@ID0nat3YT 2 күн бұрын
Why focus on the manager . Why not the crappy players ?
@giorgiob8464
@giorgiob8464 2 күн бұрын
Crappy brit players get a free pass. Non-Brit managers get no quarter.
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
They were playing for Brazil, Argentina, Demark, England, Holland, Ivory Coast.... when they arrived, all internationals If the manager/s instill no confidence, does not communicate his ideas, they will be fragmented. He is used to dealing with kids on bread crumb wages & tiny ego's
@nc3music920
@nc3music920 2 күн бұрын
He has made a bad start. There's no denying that. His job is to improve players even if theyre not top quality
@JS-bh3pz
@JS-bh3pz 2 күн бұрын
Because he is not even trying to do anything to suit the players? He has a lot of very young players in the squad that costed hundreds of millions of pounds. Is it really only one solution to choose a tactic that suits nobody and say players are bad?
@almac9203
@almac9203 2 күн бұрын
​@@JS-bh3pzthere is a method to his madness. He knows the players aren't good enough so he is playing this way to force the owners to bring in the right players for the system. He could get 10th by altering the tactics but he wants to make a point. So long as we don't get relegated it doesn't matter how bad the season is. Everyone knows this isn't his squad so he isn't being judged until he gets his own players. Everything is on ETH until Amorim gets his own players.
@AA-ki6zn
@AA-ki6zn 2 күн бұрын
Ole sitting in his gorgeous mansion, looking at the creek with a cup of coffee and a big smile. "Glorified PE coach, egh? I finished in 2nd with this clown show."
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 2 күн бұрын
Compare the players ole had to what utd have got now!! Jesus's your stupid
@Exostars77-A
@Exostars77-A 2 күн бұрын
- OLE finished 3rd and then 2nd in his only 2 full seasons. Lost Europa Cup final. - VAN GAAL finished 4th and 5th; FA cup in 2nd season - MOURINHO finished 6th and 2nd; won league cup and Europa league in first season - TEN HAG finished 3rd and 8th; won League cup in first season, and FA Cup in 2nd season. Not a great record, but a respectable one. United have basically been a top 4 side with a cup win on average every 2 or 3 years. Will Amorim be sacked before he can get United back into the top 4?
@lionface1364
@lionface1364 2 күн бұрын
​@@Exostars77-A when you lay things out that record is not that bad......but unacceptable for United. Lol
@island97
@island97 2 күн бұрын
​@@Exostars77-A with the current form, he could be out by February 😂
@dlamini77
@dlamini77 2 күн бұрын
Nobody is thinking about that clown but you
@olaoyewo2308
@olaoyewo2308 2 күн бұрын
United fans, as a Liverpool fan I want to be objective with you. Amorim needs a pre-season. He said so himself when he asked to only come in at the end of this season. Your current situation may not improve by much. As funny as it might be, you won't get relegated. You guys have to decide whether you're willing to write off this season in the hopes that he is your guy. If you believe he is, you should have no issues with that. If you're still gonna judge him on this season, you may as well sack him now cause it's obvious he's sacrificing the season for what he hopes will be gains next season. Hopefully for you, your board makes the right decision.
@VMA1981
@VMA1981 2 күн бұрын
It doesn't get much more objective than that. Hopefully people will be able to understand and keep it in mind until we get there. Cheers. Happy 2025 full of better days!!
@shilshanghavi4948
@shilshanghavi4948 2 күн бұрын
Awesome comment mate. That’s a ‘love for football’ perspective 😊
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC 2 күн бұрын
He needs 2 transfer windows
@Red-Red-Red-Red
@Red-Red-Red-Red 2 күн бұрын
Klopp didnt need a preseason in October 2015! We got to two major finals that same season, although we didnt win. Stop making excuses Amorim!
@olaoyewo2308
@olaoyewo2308 Күн бұрын
@@Red-Red-Red-Red Klopp wasn't bringing in a completely new system. It's part of the reason I think Liverpool went for Slot over Amorim. For continuation. United, however decided they were happy to essentially rip it up and as such you have to give it an opportunity otherwise what was the point? You can argue they shouldn't have made such a radical decision mid-season and that they should have fired Ten Hag at the end of last season but we've passed that point!
@peoplelikefrank
@peoplelikefrank 2 күн бұрын
Rangnick told it. Nobody (management, players, even some fans) didn’t like to hear that. It was a big mistake to let him go. He is a guy who could have rebuilt the club.
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
zackly
@louisaraiza314
@louisaraiza314 2 күн бұрын
A lot of the fan base always want a new manager. But there isn’t a manager that can fix this. It’s systemic mediocrity from the top down. Changing managers won’t change that fact.
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
@@louisaraiza314 yus my dear, some fans even wanted Fergie out; I would like to have seen Arsene Wenger given the job with a younger assistant .... back when he left Arsenal Having a manager w/Prem L. experience is VITAL
@Hunkydorry46
@Hunkydorry46 2 күн бұрын
Van nisteroy could have been retained till the season end as he had connected to the players & at times though not always that counts.
@Afro-sport94
@Afro-sport94 2 күн бұрын
Man United in the Premier League: 1 win in August 1 win in September 1 win in October 1 win in November 1 win in December Menstrual Cycle FC😂😅😂
@ot3011
@ot3011 2 күн бұрын
hahaha 🤣
@albertbrammer9263
@albertbrammer9263 2 күн бұрын
36 points and you stay up. 22 points, so 5 wins in 19 games should be possible.
@SamsungJ-xk9pt
@SamsungJ-xk9pt 2 күн бұрын
'The future is female.'
@smithofsmiths1872
@smithofsmiths1872 2 күн бұрын
So they have to wait till it's the _wrong_ time of the month!
@zhenyamugisa9423
@zhenyamugisa9423 2 күн бұрын
Man if this is true, the name should change from red Devils to red snatches😂😂😂
@michaelandreou4996
@michaelandreou4996 2 күн бұрын
Ill back him for years if we get these clowns on high wages out and give youth a chance 💪🏻.
@tbow6719
@tbow6719 21 сағат бұрын
You’re gonna be a great team in the championship 👌
@michaelandreou4996
@michaelandreou4996 2 күн бұрын
Rashford 350k a week Casemiro 350k a week Bruno 300k a week Mount 250k a week Maguire 210k a week Antony 200k a week Shaw 200k a week Ericksen 150k a week Amad and Mainoo on 20k each 😅. Our squad and culture is rotten. We have players on more money than Real Madrid, Liverpool, Arsenal, bayern and Inter players and not one of them even makes there benches. Well done glazers and the ownership running this mess in the last 10 years 👏🏼👏🏼🙋🏻‍♂️
@effkay3691
@effkay3691 2 күн бұрын
That’s why they can turn over their squads and you can’t
@Afterthoughtbtw
@Afterthoughtbtw 2 күн бұрын
For context - Luis Diaz at Liverpool is on 50k a week!
@wilsonlim1892
@wilsonlim1892 2 күн бұрын
Mount is a Man Utd player???
@RicardoSousa-g5w
@RicardoSousa-g5w 2 күн бұрын
And you 2k a Month 😂😂😂
@obynoomere1280
@obynoomere1280 2 күн бұрын
Wow. Their salaries vs their performance is crazy. This is the definition of Robbery or Criminality. 😮
@riccardobrogelli3550
@riccardobrogelli3550 2 күн бұрын
My prediction when Amorim signed for united was that he wouldn't see the season out. Nothing I've seen has made me change my mind
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
Hari Kari is how the Japanese managers say good-bye
@afc1589
@afc1589 2 күн бұрын
Could well be correct
@Mosk-x6p
@Mosk-x6p 2 күн бұрын
Why?
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
@@Mosk-x6p no?
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h 2 күн бұрын
@@josh-p8y3o hari kari is how United managers say goodbye
@Rocky-w5r
@Rocky-w5r 2 күн бұрын
Amorim: we will suffer. I am ready to suffer also but we will het it right. Media:let's ignore all that
@Unshou
@Unshou 2 күн бұрын
When will you stop ignoring the bad results and performances? You can't blame the media for this. Do you really expect them to say "oh well, there's no news to report on here. Amorim said they'll get it right and I'm sure they will"?
@mufcmike7
@mufcmike7 2 күн бұрын
Seriously. Him being labeled as “broken” is a bunch of bullshit. Nothing I’ve seen in any interview has shown that. He has maintained the same level when they’ve beat City, when they have lost these matches.
@stevenicol1
@stevenicol1 2 күн бұрын
Relegation is a price to pay for greatness!
@hiufgterde
@hiufgterde 2 күн бұрын
That's not why he was brought in, they don't him to suffer more
@philmixer
@philmixer 2 күн бұрын
Yes, you will suffer, really suffer starting on Sunday.
@sibu.101
@sibu.101 2 күн бұрын
If he doesn’t speak about “survival “ they’ll say he is being delusional
@JT-ts6nr
@JT-ts6nr 2 күн бұрын
If Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Olé, Ten Hag were all out of their depth, then yes, he is out of his depth. Slot, Klopp, Ancelotti and Pep would all be out of their depth with this crop of mostly useless players.
@Bfg12327
@Bfg12327 2 күн бұрын
Moving to 343 isn’t helping is it?
@andrejayc3464
@andrejayc3464 2 күн бұрын
With these players , regardless of what formation you play , results will only vary slightly.
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h 2 күн бұрын
Yes, but he accepted this job knowing very well these are the same players he has to deal with.
@JT-ts6nr
@JT-ts6nr 2 күн бұрын
@@FitzroyGeorge-c4h Hence he says "this club needs a shock" for it to rise again.
@JT-ts6nr
@JT-ts6nr 2 күн бұрын
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h Some has to do it. Amorim is that someone. He needs the backing of the board and the hierarchy.
@DrMox-ny8qs
@DrMox-ny8qs 2 күн бұрын
Let's get relegated while waiting for Amorim's preferred players.
@kukister
@kukister 2 күн бұрын
And next season you would play better....
@giorgiob8464
@giorgiob8464 2 күн бұрын
Or get relegated with the same bunch of slow, overpaid career underperformers on such HUGE wages that they can't be sold, assuming anyone would even want them.
@andymurday4538
@andymurday4538 2 күн бұрын
It is not the manager that is the problem. It is the whole club structure.
@PushkarChintaluri
@PushkarChintaluri 2 күн бұрын
Hahhahahhahahahah And finally, the penny drops
@hubertpierre9507
@hubertpierre9507 2 күн бұрын
Maybe everyone should stop finding excuses for Amorim and Ineos … ETH managed to win the EFL and FA cup and Ineos sacked him in the middle of the season. RvN was able to win all his games except for the draw at Chelsea with these players. Amorim now makes a choice to play a kind of system that most teams don’t play … and apparantly doesn’t work
@DonR-zb2cm
@DonR-zb2cm 2 күн бұрын
Amorim would get absolutely battered against Chelsea. Luckily we had Ruud at the time.
@JamesMIrby
@JamesMIrby 2 күн бұрын
Hag got us in this mess to start with.
@Cypher652
@Cypher652 2 күн бұрын
The system 100% works. Just don’t have the personnel. I think it’s the right idea throwing this season to really get the building blocks in place. Obviously you have to trust the players to at least do something, which is amorims only mistake. This is the hardest job in football of all time.
@trudeausbackbone1304
@trudeausbackbone1304 2 күн бұрын
​@@Cypher652 Tottenham is a worse job
@Afterthoughtbtw
@Afterthoughtbtw 2 күн бұрын
@@Cypher652 The system worked in a weak league with little competition. The jury is so far out when it comes to working at a high level that it might circumnavigate the earth.
@dracul74
@dracul74 2 күн бұрын
Imo a coach in the Prem needs to be tactically flexible to get the result against each opponent. The 3-4-3 he rolled out with that lineup made no sense on paper or on the pitch against Newcastle. Van Gaal also had an old and slow midfield but was able to grind out ties and victories with the talent he had.
@shitturasheed3551
@shitturasheed3551 2 күн бұрын
Without Bruno what do you expect?
@chad9971
@chad9971 2 күн бұрын
There comes a time when you gotta put the spotlight on the ownership...
@wilsonlim1892
@wilsonlim1892 2 күн бұрын
It should...
@kylephaneufmusic
@kylephaneufmusic 2 күн бұрын
Zirkzee has the most unathletic body I’ve ever seen on a professional athlete. Where did they even find that guy?!
@dlamini77
@dlamini77 2 күн бұрын
He was brilliant last season. You should watch other Leagues. If you did you wouldn't be asking this silly question.
@TheDrivenMillenial
@TheDrivenMillenial 2 күн бұрын
@@dlamini77hes bang average
@kylephaneufmusic
@kylephaneufmusic 2 күн бұрын
@@dlamini77 ah yes, all the top clubs were lining up and wanted the mighty zirkzee
@IanBaker-t9i
@IanBaker-t9i 2 күн бұрын
…yes in SERIE A, an easier league, outside top 2/3 clubs. Even Lukaku top notch there . Z is the wrong body shape. Can’t finish and adds little else.
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
ETH was no scout, bought players w/recklessness. So many foreign players, ONE British player, Mount, bought by ETH who is permanently out injured .... yet the Championship & League 1 have Brit players with more ambition, energy & skills than this lot
@KA-oo1gz
@KA-oo1gz 2 күн бұрын
A more experienced manager would implement a few tweaks to improve the team’s performance.
@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars 2 күн бұрын
ETH changed his methodology. If Amorim does the same then he has already failed. Why would owners bring in Amorim to play Oleball?
@mahmoudghoneim8004
@mahmoudghoneim8004 2 күн бұрын
Is it like all or nothing, that's a joke that's why he's called a manager , you must stand strong in front of your team and fans but the guy looks helpless. ​@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars 2 күн бұрын
@@mahmoudghoneim8004 You mean the same way he was helpless at Sporting? The way so many managers have looked helpless at Man Utd in the past 10 years? Also he is not the manager is he? He is the head coach. His job is to train the players and put them on the pitch. What they do afterwards is down to the players. Just like Ineos have brought in a "crack" team, just like at OGC Nice. How has that worked out? Yet the only person we hear from is Amorim. Where is Jason Wilcox or Omar Berarda? This team on crack, sorry crack team, always seem to be missing when things go from bad to worse or when time comes to put their hand in their pocket.
@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars 2 күн бұрын
@@mahmoudghoneim8004 Where have you been for 10 years? Man Utd have made all their managers look "helpless" because they are. They have all been hung out to dry, first by the Glazers and now Ineos.
@mahmoudghoneim8004
@mahmoudghoneim8004 2 күн бұрын
@inthegutterstaringathestars now you can wait forever, you bring in a manager to win not to implement a system that is not functional.
@jigsawdk17
@jigsawdk17 2 күн бұрын
Definitely not, the fact that he makes changes just after 30 minutes by understanding the situation , he knows what hes doing.
@Cypher652
@Cypher652 2 күн бұрын
The media need to realise that we United are at best a mid table side. No team has a divine right to be top dogs forever. This is not amorims fault in the slightest. It isn’t surprising for United fans that we are down near the bottom it’s just what we are.
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
What gets me is so many foreign players, no British players, or v rare as signings .... yet the Championship & League 1 have Brit players with more energy & skills than this lot. The manager has to take some blame, he drops a player after scoring 2 goals & winning the game; Utd have once again hired a manager w/o PL experience; he plays Antony, Zirkzee, Casimiro, etc when there's better players in the youth team.
@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars 2 күн бұрын
@@josh-p8y3o You mean British players like Luke Shaw and Mason Mount?
@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars 2 күн бұрын
The media live off of teams that generate a lot clicks. They are happy with Utd's struggles because it fills column inches and hours of airtime "analysing where it all went wrong."
@josh-p8y3o
@josh-p8y3o 2 күн бұрын
@inthegutterstaringathestars ETH didnt buy Luke Shaw... and I already mentioned MOUNT who is 90% unavailable due to injuries; ie a £64million crock
@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars 2 күн бұрын
@@josh-p8y3o "What gets me is so many foreign players, no British players, or v rare as signings .... yet the Championship & League 1 have Brit players with more energy & skills than this lot. The manager has to take some blame, he drops a player after scoring 2 goals & winning the game; Utd have once again hired a manager w/o PL experience; he plays Antony, Zirkzee, Casimiro, etc when there's better players in the youth team." - Where did you mention Mount? "ETH didnt buy Luke Shaw, what does that have to do with anything? When has Luke Shaw or Mount shown more energy, anywhere other than on the treatment table?
@riaddaniels2823
@riaddaniels2823 2 күн бұрын
Don’t blame mid season arrival, Amorim knew he was coming in mid season, he knew he wouldn’t have a preseason, but Amorim has done nothing to stabilise the ship. He’s letting the ship sink because he’s not got any other tactics or system, can’t do anything to play another system to bring stability. Wants to cling to his system so he can blame the players, and try and get rid of them. It’s like a reverse mutiny by the manager against the players.
@andy56018
@andy56018 2 күн бұрын
Amorim wont last 5 mins. Unable to adapt. Goodbye
@tvgcmma9215
@tvgcmma9215 2 күн бұрын
Erickson at his best was never a central midfielder he played behind striker - now playing him in that position when can hardly run
@thomasjrgensen3165
@thomasjrgensen3165 2 күн бұрын
Ericsen was first player the club said they dont want,so obv he dont care
@BURLINGTON-t2v
@BURLINGTON-t2v 2 күн бұрын
It would be funny in they get into a relegation battle........great viewing
@jamespeck125
@jamespeck125 2 күн бұрын
Big Sam coming in, for the last few games...😂
@nimatorabi5846
@nimatorabi5846 2 күн бұрын
Oh! So the inury issues/records are a point of excuse for Amorim, but not for EtH?
@Mcfly-or7ky
@Mcfly-or7ky 2 күн бұрын
I absolutely love seeing the mancs in soooo much trouble 😂😂😂
@ofentsemelato6735
@ofentsemelato6735 Күн бұрын
Completely out of his depth and very naive to think he can persist playing 1 system without adapting to make the best of what he has.
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 2 күн бұрын
Are these pundits for real!!?…….”Do you see a way back for Zirkzee?”…….anybody would think he’s had a career threatening injury!!………he’s been subbed off FFS!, get a grip!
@DJHypro
@DJHypro 2 күн бұрын
Go back to Sporting. Is the money really worth the sadness and embarrassment?
@jihadhyderali2709
@jihadhyderali2709 2 күн бұрын
They should have given some more time to Rud van..I think he knows the DNA
@crayontom9687
@crayontom9687 2 күн бұрын
If this is your criteria for an emergency episode, you’re probably going to have to do one every day in 2025
@VantaBlackhole
@VantaBlackhole 2 күн бұрын
Some journalists seem to be under the impression Amorim spent the last year studying United & that Fernandez & Ugarte aren’t suspended. They also fail to consider He hasn’t even had a proper training session because of the schedule. The reality is United are a bottom of the table team right now @ no manager alive is gonna change that in a month.
@nigelcass8972
@nigelcass8972 2 күн бұрын
Poor old Amorin: the fall guy for Ratcliff and Inesco - "No its now! Now or never! Make your mind up! Quick! - as we're taking the hand break off the bus and ..brum brum." Amorin lies flattened in the road.
@eddyholguin3468
@eddyholguin3468 2 күн бұрын
Amorim can't sell "his idea" to anybody. I don't buy it and I see the players don't buy it either. No manager is successful with "an idea" A lot more is needed
@BenMcManus
@BenMcManus 22 сағат бұрын
that's why he was hired though, get rid of the players that won't adapt
@eddyholguin3468
@eddyholguin3468 22 сағат бұрын
@@BenMcManus That is very practical, pay all these players their contracts and buy some 20 new players for Amorim. When he gets sacked we do it all over for the future coach
@BenMcManus
@BenMcManus 22 сағат бұрын
@@eddyholguin3468 the team needs a complete overhaul, so many of them aren't worth changing your principles for
@Red-Red-Red-Red
@Red-Red-Red-Red 2 күн бұрын
100% out of this depth. He is accustomed to one single tactical formation. He will be out the following season
@vecta001
@vecta001 2 күн бұрын
Almorim will rise, ManUtd will rise and will do very well come back to this message in 2027 and thank God for it.
@jaymur6219
@jaymur6219 2 күн бұрын
Your analysis is absolutely precise and well-articulated. The question that arises is this: if we, as fans and non-professionals, can discern these issues-ranging from team selection to tactical decisions-how is it that the coaching team and staff failed to foresee them? To me, this is deeply concerning. I hold much higher expectations for Amorim and his coaching staff, and I believe they are capable of far better.
@accoleloc3301
@accoleloc3301 2 күн бұрын
He doesn't look broken at all. He is enjoying the challenge. Its not rocket science he can fix it. He does need a solid keeper CB and a proven striker for now...
@philiq18
@philiq18 2 күн бұрын
He needs a left-footed LB as well. The club left EtH without one for two seasons. You can't bank on Shaw remaining fit and right now, the time continues to be imbalanced.
@johnmiceter
@johnmiceter 2 күн бұрын
Anyone would be out of their depth trying to help United. Do you notice how many good players go to United but end up playing way worse then they did before they joined? Its like there is a curse at United.
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h
@FitzroyGeorge-c4h 2 күн бұрын
Elanga, wan Bissaka anybody.
@Afterthoughtbtw
@Afterthoughtbtw 2 күн бұрын
Was 'goof' players a Freudian slip? Because I struggle to think of many good players they have signed. They've signed a lot of dross, and people who were past it, and/or players with bad attitudes. Not many good players.
@user-s1o3nr532
@user-s1o3nr532 Күн бұрын
Van Gaal called it - Man U is a commercial club, not a football club.
@themanfromdelmonte9150
@themanfromdelmonte9150 2 күн бұрын
A fortnight ago I made a prediction that Amorim won't be there a year on.
@ironman140.6
@ironman140.6 2 күн бұрын
RA should never have come. He reputation is damaged beyond. Sad top class guy!!
@prodigalsunradio
@prodigalsunradio 2 күн бұрын
Amorim needs to rethink. You don't fit the squad to the system, you fit the system to the squad.
@Cypher652
@Cypher652 2 күн бұрын
It’s the toughest job in football. Every single coach would be out of their depth. It will take no small amount of luck to get out of this.
@thesaintst1851
@thesaintst1851 2 күн бұрын
Klopp and guardiola would sort it out
@hiufgterde
@hiufgterde 2 күн бұрын
@@thesaintst1851 No they wouldn't, they wouldn't get enough time either
@Afterthoughtbtw
@Afterthoughtbtw 2 күн бұрын
@@hiufgterde Any manager that isn't stupid enough to actually take the job and has the clout to force changes through would have a decent chance. But that's the rub. In order to sort it out, you'd have to see all of the problems, and then you'd think it's not worth the effort compared to what is actually available to you. The problems are systemic, and if you are a good enough manager you can see it - hence you need to have the clout to lay it all on the line in the job interview, and demand the changes you know are needed.
@hiufgterde
@hiufgterde 2 күн бұрын
@@Afterthoughtbtw yeah nice story but the club is not owned by the manager. A manager gets paid to get the best out of the squad, if he fails he will be replaced. If the board fails they can simply point the finger to others and try again.
@edwardsmyth4396
@edwardsmyth4396 2 күн бұрын
Keep the manager. Accept relegation. Reset owners and players. 3 years in championship will do this club well good.
@PushkarChintaluri
@PushkarChintaluri 2 күн бұрын
Yes. Yes.
@harveyfuqua6633
@harveyfuqua6633 Күн бұрын
The Premier League is more ruthless now than ever. Ask Ange Postecoglou.
@genwcd91
@genwcd91 2 күн бұрын
United's DNA is playing with 2 wingers, Best, Coppell, Giggs, Valencia, apart from Conte no one else has played 3 at the back, shows Ineos are completely out of their depth
@steveomcbigarms
@steveomcbigarms 2 күн бұрын
Ten Hag was in the same position as well
@eltubster14
@eltubster14 2 күн бұрын
Good stuff from Rob Dawson. Amorim's been left the worst pound for pound squad in English football history.
@brandankelly4069
@brandankelly4069 2 күн бұрын
Great conversation guys. Happy New Year.
@gohumberto
@gohumberto 2 күн бұрын
(1) Long-term I think he's what United needed. A man with a vision and a proven system. (2) He needs to swallow his pride until he gets the players he needs. Right now he's playing his system with players that are unsuitable. (3) A top manager would change tactics in order to win games and work towards his system in Summer. Even Sam Allardyce would get more from this group of players. (4) If he's not careful he could be playing his beautiful system in the Championship.
@danbadd
@danbadd Күн бұрын
For someone who is held in such high regard by all players he's worked with for his people skills to come into this club and need to drop two of the top players says a bunch. He looks so disappointed in what he inherited.
@JoelJazziBodden345
@JoelJazziBodden345 2 күн бұрын
Eth and even RVN both were making this Squad somewhat work! Say what you want but to start these matches without Garnacho...Rashford and Mainoo is insane to me 😭
@sandinurrochmat1674
@sandinurrochmat1674 2 күн бұрын
Mainoo too slow mate just overhyped overrated player Next game against Liverpool he gonna disappear in midfield
@JoelJazziBodden345
@JoelJazziBodden345 2 күн бұрын
@@sandinurrochmat1674 Mainoo is no speedster everyone knows that but to call a young player that plays as well as he does overrated is ridiculous. Not every player has to run 100 mph. He is quite agile none the less and very intelligent on the field on his day! He has played against Liverpool and man city before and never " disappeared"
@riaddaniels2823
@riaddaniels2823 2 күн бұрын
Pundits last season: players are fine, but manager has no system. Pundits this season: manager has a system but players aren’t fine. Manager: I will only play one system, and not adapt to the players strengths, nor communicate his requirements clearly so players can adapt just blame lack of training and say players aren’t good enough. Team: trains every day. Amorim’s been there a month, how complicated is his system?
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 2 күн бұрын
Definition of insanity…..doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result………pretty much sums up dis-United….
@Silphwave
@Silphwave 2 күн бұрын
Amorim has my infinite support. Even if it means relegation. Players are to blame, not the manager.
@Travellingisagift
@Travellingisagift 2 күн бұрын
Relegated in 1974. Shocking they are in the situation where it is only 7 points behind the last 3 bottom teams. Casemiro earning 250k pounds a month or a week and Rashford earning 300k. Gosh, Man U!
@firminorules
@firminorules 2 күн бұрын
I watched the game again and Zirkzy lost every single header battle, gave the ball away every single time he touched it, and played zero defense. He deserved to be jeered. He is a god awful player.
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC 2 күн бұрын
Of course hes not out of his depth. Hes coaching a championship level team. Ffs.
@tinashesimbini5800
@tinashesimbini5800 2 күн бұрын
Amorim willingly partook from the poisoned chalice. 🤠
@dfabian
@dfabian 2 күн бұрын
Really nice to have this more levelled podcast-style content
@seanscrew
@seanscrew Күн бұрын
Casemiro and eriksenn… two experienced midfielders.. earning big money.. completely rested.. performed awfully and its the managers fault… of course…
@user-s1o3nr532
@user-s1o3nr532 Күн бұрын
They sold McTominay and it looks like Rashford's also on his way out. Yes - it's pure profit as they're both academy players, but does anyone seriously believe that Man U will spend they money they get for them on anyone any better? Worse more likely.
@Partoftheratpack
@Partoftheratpack 2 күн бұрын
Amorim signed a fucking contract and he knows what he’s got
@metamorphosis9793
@metamorphosis9793 Күн бұрын
Every manager since fergie has been out of their depth
@daluzsoares
@daluzsoares 2 күн бұрын
For the people who booed Zirkzee, I wish nothing good for them
@the701squad1
@the701squad1 Күн бұрын
Amorim is naïve and out of his depth, the squad is abysmal and the level of football “journalism” has never been worse from legacy to the trite, cliched shite contained in this video. Truly a depressing period in football
@water1679
@water1679 2 күн бұрын
"I am sorry for Amorim"..... are you kidding ? I am not saying he is a bad manager, but it was his decision to get paid to carry out this job. From top to bottom, it has been a perfect disaster for years. Everyone is the culprit, even the fans... but for me, the turning point towards this downfall was the decision to sack Moyes at that exact moment... should have given him another 6 months to sort things out. Happy new year bro.... Well, not so happy as a MU Fan, but let's keep united.. at least this is what we can hang on for now.
@jordans5792
@jordans5792 2 күн бұрын
Amorim: “I’m also not Harry Potter”
@Paul-Cassidy
@Paul-Cassidy 2 күн бұрын
Removes his mask: “I’m Graham Potter.”
@GaryJenkinson
@GaryJenkinson 2 күн бұрын
Not one single United player would get in Liverpools starting 11 But every single player from Liverpools starting 11 would start for United
@Fabbydabby1
@Fabbydabby1 2 күн бұрын
The reason man Utd are in this mess is because no good players want to go them now & thats why 8 players who started last night where signed by ten hag & that reflects where man Utd are
@inthegutterstaringathestars
@inthegutterstaringathestars 2 күн бұрын
When did ten hag become transfer negotiator for United? They were signed by John Murtough and the Glazers who overpaid on every deal. How is that ETH's fault?
@midknight
@midknight 2 күн бұрын
Bwahh wahh wahhh… So many managers came in mid-season to take over struggling clubs and did well.. Di Matteo, Tuchel, Redknapp, even Klopp
@lesgourlay6240
@lesgourlay6240 2 күн бұрын
If you are a professional player you should be able to adapt, to any formation.
@sandinurrochmat1674
@sandinurrochmat1674 2 күн бұрын
That's why Liverpool avoid sign him, he just one dimensional not flexible as the coach
@yohansetiawan1323
@yohansetiawan1323 2 күн бұрын
Amorim: we will suffer. I am ready to suffer also, but we will get it right In other words: I am not going to admit whether I'm out of my depth or not, but I'll stick around until you pay me my compensation
@Cypher652
@Cypher652 2 күн бұрын
Any manager would be out of their depth including pep and Klopp. This is the hardest job in football of all time. It’s time the media start realising that Amorim has inherited a mid table side at best.
@Clubber_Lang_
@Clubber_Lang_ Күн бұрын
The pre-season excuse no longer holds value. He wasn't forced to take the job, De Zerbi turned it down. He always screwed over S. Lisbon when he left them without a manager midseason.
@foot5224
@foot5224 2 күн бұрын
Finally an intelligent conversation! More of this espn
@Jifdman
@Jifdman 2 күн бұрын
Of course he is not broken. It is the squad that is broken. Poor management and recruitment spending over half a billion pounds in the last 6 years purchasing players at inflated prices who are just not good enough for the PL. Keep Amorim, give him two seasons to make it his squad, at the some time as progressing some juniors into seniors, whilst ridding ourselves of 70% of the senior squad. At the moment it is about survival.
@trevorjchurchill
@trevorjchurchill 2 күн бұрын
Im a Liverpool supporter and i cannot believe that anybody is turning on Anorim now. The best thing to happen for united now is a relegation, get rid of the dross throughout the squad and do a rebuild.
@jcanyiam8309
@jcanyiam8309 2 күн бұрын
In next 5 matches, United must pick up minimum 4 points- if not they will be in the BOTTOM 4 by end of January!
@wayneperry7413
@wayneperry7413 2 күн бұрын
As bad as they are playing surely the Southampton game gives them 3.
@jamespeck125
@jamespeck125 2 күн бұрын
Nice guy it seems, and a good coach, in certain scenarios. But implementing big changes, and benching/dropping players, with not a deep, quality squad? Seems a bad strategy mid season. Can't wait to see who they bring in for the relegation fight come end of season..😅
@Warp75
@Warp75 2 күн бұрын
Casemiro & Eriksen in midfield is a total no no. Better off playing kids imo.
@firminorules
@firminorules 2 күн бұрын
That is the moset clueless move in the history of football. Every single fan on earth knew not to do that, but Amorim didn't? Lol, he must be a complete idiot.
@byrnemeister2008
@byrnemeister2008 2 күн бұрын
@@firminorulesmaybe proving a point to the owners. These guys gotta go.
@jabbawilson8904
@jabbawilson8904 Күн бұрын
It's not looking good at all it's not a good look I'm blaming the Ineos & Ratcliffe as they don't know what they are doing.I sympathize with Amorim but why Ratcliffe didn't get rid of Ten Hag from in the summer then bring in Amorim for the Start of the new season instead of bringing him in November it makes no sense Or better yet let Ruud continue as interim manager for the rest of the season then bring in Amorim next summer giving him a fresh start & even preseason games its just messy Vanistelrooy was doing a very good job & he had the players clicking winning 3games & drawing 1 What was the purpose of chasing Ashworth for the entire summer then when you finally got him from Newcastle he only lasted for 5 months smh Do ManU have funds to even bring in any new players for this transfer window ? We have to remember the PSR rules because we don't want to get penalized by points deductions whole thing is in chaos Why would Ratcliffe give Ten Hag funds then sack him? Then now the players sucks not good enough to fit Amorim system so now eventually u have to get more funds for Amorim to get reinforcement Ratcliffe & his homies are clowns & have no brains We are fucking going backwards no direction
@besmirmurati2382
@besmirmurati2382 2 күн бұрын
It's weird! When everyone was believing that ETH is the right man for the job I said he'd fail and... He failed! Now noone is believing in Amorim but I'm sure he'll be amazing good. Just give him time... Klopp also made Liverpool great again after 4-5 seasons.... We'll be great next season! Trust me!
@superconnie5003
@superconnie5003 2 күн бұрын
Over-run in midfield.Prematch all the fans knew already
@andy56018
@andy56018 2 күн бұрын
No wonder no other PL club took Amorim on!
@kand692003
@kand692003 2 күн бұрын
Could it be worth risking FFP breach to bring in a couple of players in the most urgent positions in Jan? If it means finishing on, say, 60 points, then being deducted 10 due to FFP breach, it may be worth it? Desperate times call for for desperate measures
@IkennaAnaekweVal
@IkennaAnaekweVal 2 күн бұрын
If Amorim will not change his formation and football principles, he should at least do something else differently, at least things that are within his power and control: ▪︎ player more midfielders in his formation - Ugarte & Mainoo/Collyer/Casemiro as no. 6s then Bruno & Eriksen/Mount/Mainoo as no 10s ▪︎ give Collyer more game time ▪︎ leave Amad as your RWB ▪︎ consider Garnacho for the striker position after all, he has always scored more goals than he creates for others, but can at least create goals for himself ▪︎ Draft it some youth players and make them part of the squad, players like Obi-Martin & Amass. ▪︎ sell whoever we can sell that is sellable and on our transfer list ▪︎ make the most of opportunities in the Janaury window like Olmo if there is a chance there; he needs to convince Ineos that the squad needs freshening, improving, and fast or else he will be marked as the problem (manager again, instead of the players)
@vadsouza01
@vadsouza01 2 күн бұрын
The coach had only 4 training sessions… please leave him alone for next month… he needs to build a squad that has quality, pace, legs and energy..
@firminorules
@firminorules 2 күн бұрын
That is on INEOS. This whole debacle is on INEOS. Sorry dude, but INEOS is British MAGA. You are doomed.
@jrws89
@jrws89 2 күн бұрын
Makes me laugh all these pundits claiming Amorim has been hard done by or given a hospital pass he didn’t have to take the job he had a good gig at Sporting and was building his reputation solidly with a well organised club in Portugal. He could have said no and seen how United have burnt previous managers before in the past but he chose to take it. Either he wasn’t given the full picture before he accepted the role or he hasn’t done his due diligence
@adamsmethurst6030
@adamsmethurst6030 2 күн бұрын
Somewhere in tbe last century I remember Alan Brazil receiving some pretty rough treatment from the OT crowd. What happened yesterday was ugly. Whether JZ is good enough to improve Utd isn’t the point. Amorim got his selection wrong and could’ve taken off just about any of the outfield players. Amorim’s point about not returning to a failed system ifs fair. I would like to see him adjust his own system slightly to a 3-5-2 and pitch Marcus up top with Rasmus. Get Bruno to play a little closer to Ugarte and Mainoo. He has to get someone in to play left wingback this month, even if it’s a loan.
@timetraveller07070
@timetraveller07070 2 күн бұрын
united is the only club that started 2024 in the mud and ended 2024 in the mud ...
@RB-cs5dw
@RB-cs5dw Күн бұрын
No manager can save Man U 😂
@bernardfox9078
@bernardfox9078 2 күн бұрын
They keep talking about a clear out ! None of those players are leaving until their contract is up They are all on fat contracts. Utd need to start offering smaller salaries or shorter contracts.
@kand692003
@kand692003 2 күн бұрын
I think a Chelsea- es que model may be the way. 5 to 7 year contracts on no more than £70k a week with performance based add ons etc. If they don’t perform, they’re cheaper to move on
@jondavid54
@jondavid54 2 күн бұрын
Problem is Berrada. Heard about Amorim at city and mouthed off to Ratcliffe... what a clusterfuck now...
@spurge83
@spurge83 2 күн бұрын
It happened to Paul Konchesky at Liverpool
@sylvesteromoafebaodion5706
@sylvesteromoafebaodion5706 2 күн бұрын
i don't know why people are making excuses for Ruben Amorim, He asked for the job ,he knew the challenges .He made a poor decision coming to Man U at this time. Premier league is a unique league .He should have stayed in sporting .If you can't make a situation better please don't make it worse..
@wawalim5010
@wawalim5010 2 күн бұрын
As arsenal fan, i dont blame amorim one bit.. a great manager wont change to average manager overnight.. something sinister is happening within current man utd squad..
@DidYaServe
@DidYaServe 2 күн бұрын
Lisandro is 175cm which is 5'8", just a fraction short of 5'9". How could you think he's 5'5"?! There probably isn't a player in the whole league that short.
@tajudeennuhu720
@tajudeennuhu720 2 күн бұрын
By far ole is the best coach we have had
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