AMP MODELER TIER RANKING!

[@bertimos76]

The fractal axe fx3 turbo just laugh at the competition. Different level

[@becknorland587]

Back in June I bought myself a line6 hx stomp as a birthday/high school graduation present for myself and holy shit, best purchase I have ever made. The last two shows my band played ONLY used that for guitar, and it blows my mind how good it sounds. I don’t have any use for a full size helix, my patches tend to not be too complicated, but I love that the stomp just fits right on my board. Perfect for college too

[@TaylorDanley]

Honestly, I think line 6 is going to add capturing and it’s gonna be the best out of all of them. They already have the plug-in to modeler ecosystem… seems like an easy win to me 🤷‍♂️🥳

[@ChakraOver9k]

Sup taylor 🔥 Your reviews are awesome mate. I got the sonicake matribox because of you, and i absolutely love it. I plan on gettin the ampero stomp ll

[@TaylorDanley]

@@ChakraOver9k cool dude! Thanks for the kind words 🙌

[@julioduarte1798]

Hey Taylor, now i need your tier list of afordable amp modeler 😂

[@bboyarpeggios909]

​@@ChakraOver9k the matribox 2 is out now bro. Taylor is the king of amp modeler reviews 👌🏽

[@ChakraOver9k]

@@bboyarpeggios909 yea I seen it man. Looks and sounds sick. That bigger screen and FX loop is definitely a game changer for the price. I wuv me some sonicake ❤️🔥

[@nicopoppe4838]

Axe fx fooooor eveeeeer, best sound and feel... maximum tweckability. Apart of that, you could run 2 guitarrists or a bassist if you wanted. And function like a usb interfase...

[@somethingelsedoesmatter]

I have always just been a bedroom / basement / office recording artist, and I make crappy songs by myself. I've always used solid state, and been happy with it, more or less. My recording progression went like this, starting when I was a teen in the late 90s, to now: direct out of a Boss HM-2 -> Zoom 505II -> Line 6 POD 2.0 -> Digitech RP-355 -> Fender Mustang V v2 -> HeadRush MX5 It's been a pretty dramatic increase in terms of tone availability and authenticity. I did buy my first tube amp this year, though. I know, I'm going backwards to what everyone else is doing... Oh well.

[@KeepTheGates]

I agree for the most part, especially considering your criteria, but I place tone above all else, so Kemper and QC would have to be S tier, with line 6 being A.

[@zaporoshti3392]

I think so too but Boss GT-1000 being A or S and Helix being B level. Boss tones and play-feeling is definitely better than any Helix.

[@RZLAND]

Fun video. I'm surprised you think so highly of the Arena. I've not experienced it, but I watched reviews prior to going with the Valeton GP 200, which is not listed above. As a former Helix user, I found that unit difficult and over kill for my needs. I sold it for good money and bought the Pod Go. It also wasn't my cup of tea. I still have it, but now I'm in love with the GP200. Maybe it's the wiring in my brain, but I find it way easy to program and get great tones. Thanks for the nice reviews. Really enjoyed watching.

[@Rocktalk101]

I have been using the Boss GT-1000 for many years and I love it. As far as head rush I had the headrush MX5 and the first one I got had major issues so I sent it back and got a new one and not only did it have the same issues the first one had but it had other issues on top of those issues. I did like the touch screen and ease of set up it had but going through 2 units and both failing that is how I ended up going with the boss GT -1000 and the funny thig was I was actually trying to step away from boss stuff and try something new but Boss has never failed me my whole music career.

[@MatthiasBuesing]

It's a pity that you missed the Fractal FM3 and FM9. To me these are the best compromise of all relevant aspects...love my FM3, coming from the Helix universe...

[@TVoltG]

I haven't ever tried the AxFX and have always wanted one because of Leon Todd. His tones he gets are amazing. And his enthusiasm towards it is infectious. One day after i am done paying for my mother's cancer treatments. But I really love the Helix tones I get. I had the powered Kemper for a bit but the Helix has something more in tones and is so much user friendly. And I didn't have to go through so many rigs to find one or two I liked. Helix is my favorite. Would love to try a Tone X because I do enjoy Amplitude 5 amps. One day as well. Good video here. Food for thought for sure.

[@18nomah]

I think GT1000 has the best tone despite having way less amp models. Great point about lack of hype, but I think that just keeps it underrated.

[@DawnofCullen]

As someone who gigs with the TONEX, i absolutely adore it. For people shopping on a budget there are options galore to capture into the pedal. Currently running an invective head into an omega granophyre cab profile and its monstrous, the only thing I don’t like is if you want to run live cabs and run to front of house you have to do something like i do which is run an ir pedal (ala TC Electronics Impulse pedal) to import cab irs into to run to FOH and then rub the signal cab-less into a power amp to a live cab, or run FRFR on both sides. My only gripe besides not having XLR outs.

[@thisguy2973]

For me, I hate IK Multimedia’s a la carte business model is DOA.

[@waynewilson312]

It’s crazy how available great tones are at nearly any price range these days. I’m a helix rack user, but really wouldn’t turn down most of these options.

[@peterbatten596]

I don’t use the helix but I’ve noticed the people that crap on it, I doubt they ever used it. Or they have a problem with line 6 themselves.

[@donniejean]

@@peterbatten596I think it’s because for so many years people never took them seriously because of all the weird preset tones their combos and stuff would come with. Well it’s paid off but kinda made their name associated with “cheap”

[@peterbatten596]

@@donniejean and then came along vildhjarta and humanity’s last breath that uses pod farm 2.5 with the nastiest tones I ever HEARD!

[@thadsiphone]

I agree with everything on this list except, swap out the Helix and Axe FX III. The Helix doesn't hold even a small candle to what the Axe FX can provide. Yes, it's more expensive and you have to have a separate power amp and all that, but the power it has is 2nd to none.

[@jcassler1969]

I’m with you on the Helix. I have the Helix rack (with synergy preamps); the user interface and the control options in the helix is top notch. The Line 6 team actually listens to user feedback and regularly release firmware updates that continue to make the Helix relevant today (after being on the market for over 8 years!)

[@helies2862]

I agree with the QC and plugin implementation will definitely be a huge boost for buyers and tier list rankings 😂 but as a QC owner from pre sale, I think the unit is exceptional in it’s current state. The touch screen and UI is so easy to use. The amp models sounds fantastic, it has all the fx i will ever and never need. EQ’s are very good. Lots of Routing options and obviously the capture feature. I have captures of amps and pedals I have sold which is in a way is like keeping them. I can see the downsides as a new user with how the cloud system process currently is and I definitely think the lack of plugin implementation still to this day is pretty poor cause it was marketed as not long after launch which was a factor when I purchased it. At this point it will be a welcome feature but not a deal breaker for me as I just capture the plugins as a workaround. I can’t fault it as is for what I need and it’s only going to get better 🔥 Great video and greetings from Australia dude 🤘👹🤘

[@andreayoung9554]

plugin implementation is the most useless feature. WTF would you want to run one of there plugins on a unit that already has enough captures of that particular amp as it is?

[@helies2862]

@@andreayoung9554 I think it will be a great feature. It’s always more enjoyable dialing in a tone specific for your guitar/pickups etc. then just using EQ’s for all that stuff. Captures can sound amazing if done correctly but you wouldn’t believe how many captures that sound bad. If someone has a bad ear or gets the i/o levels wrong it only captures the signal your are sending it so lots of room for user error. So captures do come with baggage if you are relying on captures that aren’t your own. I think I would probably buy more plugins if I could port them onto the QC. It just all about options and the plugins really sound great so only a plus if you can add the option of running them to the QC 🤷‍♂️

[@josuastangl7140]

@@andreayoung9554 I also think plugins on QC are overrated, but sould still be cool. Desktop editor (which is about to be rolled out as public beta) is more important and a proper market place like Kemper's would be great too. But as of yesterday's 2.1.0 update, it really has everything I need.

[@oliverkotalik3014]

Just orded my Fractal FM9 today, very excited to upgrade from the mx5

[@edwinstovall3334]

Hey, X-Ray, don't feel too bad about not being able to shake the temptation to use touch on these units. I barely ever touched a Headrush, and that was years ago, but when I got my Donner Arena 2000, I kept and keep wanting to touch the screen rather than the actual touch areas on the unit. I could be worse, though. I got used to manipulating many modelers with their editor/librarian apps only, so I just fall back on that with this machine, too. It doesn't hurt that, uniquely in my experience, this machine supports a mobile as well as Windows and Mac apps. One thing I don't see many people addressing is the user experience. After using DigiTech's RP350, -355, and BP355 for years, I got used to their 2-channel-amp paradigm. The Arena doesn't have that, but it does have 50 banks with 3 patches each. I can think of this arrangement as 50 different 3-channel amp rigs -- except that EVERYTHING in the patches can be different instead of just the amp head/cabinet combinations like the DigiTech units. I am now in a long, slow process where I fill the 150 user rig slots with my own creations with (phantom) gigs in mind. Each amp (bank) will have 3 patches with one clean patch, one full-on lead patch, and the middle patch can either be an alternative clean rhythm patch or a crunch patch. I play a lot of funk, blues and jazz, and those musics don't favor a lot of distortion in their rhythm guitar parts. I don't need crunch that much -- but it's good to have it when and if I want it.

[@joeformayor]

Great video as always. Do you think that you can do one of these on amp in box? Like the Blackstar, Kracken, Orange Butler, etc. Would love to get your feedback on these.

[@ChakraOver9k]

The "Sonicake Matribox" is awesome for its price. We need the "Ampero stomp 2" and the "Mooer GE250" on this tier list for sure 🔥

[@martinzendejas4037]

You can switch between the type of tubes you use in the Ampero 2, crazy.

[@ChakraOver9k]

@@martinzendejas4037 Agreed 👍 The "Fractal FM3" is killer too

[@rizzinthebox7124]

Ampero 2 stomp

[@alienlovesecrets9379]

I love my Helix but with the new Liquid Profiles in my Kemper this unit is the most usable and incredible in tone, now. It almost works "like the modellers", now. You choose one amp (proflile) and you're good to go.

[@deskducker]

I run Tonex pedal into return of my quad cortex. Game over is right. All of my effects routing etc ran by the QC. Use the tonex as amp block ( or cab) with QC IR (No cab tonex), and use Tonex noise gate etc. mind blowing good. The QC adds minimal latency this way, and it lets Tonex shine through. QC needs to update capture algorthims , as it can playback the Tonex models almost perfectly. And they blowout the QC amp models.

[@ScottStieg]

Great video! I own a Ampero 2 Stage, it's been really amazing so far!

[@jasongoad1084]

I love my Kemper powered toaster amp and my Helix but if I could only choose one it would be the Kemper. Enjoyed your rankings!

[@smokster24]

Hey Ray, you're the man! I was just hoping someone would do this, even the most trivial, to the most technical things can help someone watching.

[@shawnriffninjareacts7316]

I think alot more people would be on board with Fractal if their marketing didn't suck ass. I own a Axe FX III, which I freaking love. Though if I'm being honest, the unit should come with a 3 hr plus training video of how to use it. The learning curve is so bad most people sell them cause they're tired of not getting the sound it's capable of.

[@JiTiAr35]

you forgot the Chinese, man. Mooer GE300 for example. You can do almost everything with it. Valeton GP200 offers crazy number of features with only 350 bucks.

[@Arkadius87]

We all know that axe fx 3 is eating competition if you're really in music and sounds. Thats why is high end. It isnt that user friendly its true, but got to be in S tier. And one way of looking at it is, if most famous guitarists in the world use it, for example John Petrucci, than I dont question it a single second. Cause guy is not famous just for guitar playing abilities, but also for creating perfect sounding instruments, effects etc. So out of those AxeFX is definitely best sounding one, with tons of features as well.

[@trunks828]

Yeah I agree on the helix 100% my main unit since 2019. I went with the stomp since I still use pedals. Kinda want a tonex now and link it up with the stomp.

[@teddystevens6624]

My thinking exactly

[@josuastangl7140]

Tonex + stomp or even HX FX could be a killer combo

[@KeepTheGates]

14:43 Don't worry about that. Criticism is needed, especially end users criticizing companies and products developed for them. Don't fall into the trap of toxic positivity.

[@pvsnoir]

I personally think that judging the quad cortex by only a big promise that the company did but didn’t provide yet is pretty unfair. You should rate it on how the device is not on what the company promised but broke a promise. And in my opinion I didn’t tested them ALL but the majority, I just have to be honest. If neural DSP didn’t promise plug-in implementation come on the QC is on POINT on what it does. Super easy and user friendly UI, sounds kickass, super complete and powerful. To ME some very minor issues and to me I should be judged on the device by itself exactly like you did for the others modelers. And I’d personally rank it in A-Tier maybe S not sure

[@P00PDOG]

agree

[@Erock09291]

S tier next to Axe Turbo for me. Best offerings out price point aside 😊

[@thorshafer]

NUX gives the Donner stuff and the Spark a run for their money!, kinda surprised they aren't getting more attention!

[@greyklopstock7155]

For what it is, I think the positive grid spark is dare I say a perfect product. If you want something light and capable with built in speakers and effects, with all sorts of useful goodies at a reasonable price, it's pretty hard to beat

[@justinplaysguitar]

This is insane Everything you said about the helix the fractal does and it does it way better You can easy save a block or snap shot in 3 differnt ways. Seemless switching from scenes or presets the editing is way better you have more options and the amp ls sound the best usually people think the fractal sounds better then the real amps. The one thing you said was price. You can get a fm3 for 900 dollars and since the last update. They are just as powerful as the axe effects or the fm9. They just don’t have dual amps but unless you’re playing in front of 30 k a night you don’t need dual amps

[@johnevered9640]

I’ve been using the fractal FM9 floor unit all year and honestly it’s insane. I still sometimes hit the cpu limit though and it has the…interesting fractal UI approach lol

[@josuastangl7140]

I use the Quad Cortex since its launch and that solves both those problems... ...but has a lot less options when it comes to super specific effects or tweakability. I guess you just can't have it all And a proper market place like the Kemper would be fantastic

[@KordTaylor]

Thank you so much for this. Appreciate the time you took and your opinions. 👏🏻

[@mcnorris40]

I've been playing since I was 13, and I had always used analog pedals and amps until 2020 when my local guitar shop had a PodGo demo, I loved it and took one home. I can't believe how far these have come since I tried a digitech gnx almost 20 years ago.

[@tr0o0yy]

Thank you for doing this video, new to these and this was a great introduction to whats out there

[@chrisadcock6824]

Ray I think the Headrush Prime Autotune feature was designed to run voice along with guitar/bass. Its for like a singer songwriter to have a all in one solution for processing guitars and vocals with one unit. Also I thought I stumbled onto a PRMBA vids for a min! Awesome job on your video.

[@pratikgurung4009]

I love it

[@EasyHeat]

Just had my uncle, who was my thrash metal mentor back in the 80's, freakin' gift me a freakin' Fractal FM3 MkII Turbo!! Bruh?! I legit 💩muh britches unboxing! Karma is real. 🤘

[@GNRGNRGNRGNRGNR]

Thats sick, Fractal stuff is top tier.

[@EasyHeat]

@@GNRGNRGNRGNRGNR no shit right?!! Mind blown

[@EasyHeat]

@@GNRGNRGNRGNRGNRWith my ASPD tho? Not gonna lie. The “optional paralysis” has been severe. Although, as mainly a punk/thrash/hardcore dude? I’ve been living by the philosophy of… K.I.S.S. “Keep it simple stupid”😂 Soo far soo good! Now all I want is a decent 100-120 watt 2x12 solid state combo to jam with my homies and play live!🤘

[@becknorland587]

I feel like I’m the only person who says this, and not to be a contrarian, but I think the tonex is exceptionally overrated. The guitarist of my band got one used and all the anti consumer registration crap was absolutely insane. He had to call amplitube and get the previous owner to pay $20 to transfer the license or some shit, and this whole process took like a month. And after he finally figured it all out, the tones just weren’t good enough to justify that headache. Maybe we’re missing something, but just my experience with it

[@DeadPunk_]

The helix with a laney LFR 212 is fucking awesome, and it has a cool light on the cab 😀🤣

[@jakebergen1837]

I'm so torn between the laney lfr 212 and a used mission gemini 2 online for like $1130 considering they're supposed to be cream of the crop and have coaxial speakers instead of separate tweeters so are supposed to have a more real guitar cab feel while still having frfr capability. And are like $2200 new. Hard choice lol.

[@JoshuaSmith-fc8kg]

I sold my mesa dual rec last year as i dont gig out anymore and i havent played it since i got my headrush gigboard . The major advantage to any digital interface is it sounds the same on 1 as it does on 10 . I cant say that on most tube amps . None of these units are bad . I guess it depends on what your using it for . Good video Ray as always .

[@CookingNoise]

I’m only a few months into my purchase, but the Ampero Stomp II is damn good for the price!

[@paulkline3011]

I know I'll get slammed for this comment but I still use my Line 6 POD exclusively. I programmed my patches 24 years ago when I first bought it. Every show I play people come up to me and ask what I'm using to get such a crushing sound. No one can believe I'm using a POD. I hook it up through the Effects loop of my 5150. Ya. You probably think I'm crazy to not use the 5150 gain but it works.

[@thisguy2973]

I can understand wanting touchscreens for some things, but none of these companies have a touchscreen that’s nearly as responsive as a phone or tablet. It’s always some trash implementation of it that feels like a tablet from fifteen years ago (yea, the ones where the laptop screen rotates around and converts to tablet.) There is still a use case for physical buttons as they’re a lot more reliable. I’d hate to be bricked on one of these all because the screen got cracked.

[@Guitarliano]

I’d put neural DSP quad vortex in S tier fractals in F tier. Everything else I agree with bruh. Sick video my man 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@peterbatten596]

Alright, after returning to this video, having the tonex and just got the tonex one along with the quad cortex. Both tonex and quad cortex I’d have to say, easily the S tier (The tonex one is insane. It lacks no compromise besides not having a midi port. I wouldn’t even need the tonex if the tonex one had midi output by itself, so having both together is amazing). So after using tonex and IKM dedicated to updates (along with quad cortex updates, better late than never) are my S tier for all arounders.

[@parat75]

As soon as you ranked the Quad Cortex the same as the Spark, I had to laugh! If you're going to rank Amp Modelers, their modeling capabilities should come first, and the QC wins hands down. The Spark isn't even a modeler. Come on Ray!

[@xanderraymondcharles]

It’s almost like I said the spark is “barely a modeler” lol. Anywho, my videos are all good fun you know that! I appreciate you stopping in and hanging! Enjoy your evening! 🙌🙌🙌

[@bthompson1229]

It literally models specific amps and effects and lets you adjust their settings....

[@xanderraymondcharles]

@@bthompson1229 exactly my point. it's technically a modeler, albeit not a very ideal gigging and or recording tool. Well said.

[@parat75]

@@bthompson1229 with regard to modeling in this context, (especially ranking it the same as a Quad Cortex), I would agree with Ray that it is "barely" a modeler. I'm guessing Ray added the Spark just to appease the budget senses and that's fine. I'm just glad he said this was for fun, because if I didn't know any better and I were looking for a modeler, I might make a decision based on this video. And that would be bad lol

[@tusharjamwal]

I am only at the boss as I write this comment, but I thought you would say something about the tone, the price and the experience. And the only feature you mentioned is XLR outs :/

[@matthewmp111]

Great video as usual, Ray. Hey, what supplements are you using regularly with your lifting?

[@xanderraymondcharles]

Hey thanks! Honestly just pre, whey and creatine. That’s all I’ve taken since I was 16. The main supplement to put on weight and muscle is to eat real food. Supplements don’t do that much truthfully. Hope this helps!

[@dakotamorgan6594]

Comparing these as amp modelers solely, I think the ranking is wonky. Putting the QC in B because they dragged their feet on plug in compatibility seems irrelevant to its quality as an amp modeler. I love both the QC and the Helix. I have owned both, and love them both.

[@enochtimothy9926]

Got my self the axe fx 3 I used the helix for about 4 years . My personal opinion is that the fractal audio has the best sound and most importantly the feel that I’m looking for that’s close to a tube amp.

[@ramonpresta6433]

A day before the lockdown I bought the Line6 POD GO. To this day I still use it to play at home. Revv Generator preset (red or purple channel) sounds huuuuge! It's also really cool to have the option to make loops to play on your own.

[@DigitalDZ7]

If the tonex had a better ui and a touch screen display like the headrush, and an increase in processing power it would absolutely shake up the entire modeler market. To be able to use and edit the software from the unit itself...that would be fckn great. Even if came with a $100-$200 price increase, it would still be affordable.

[@alvich]

Dude i am a die hard axe fx fan but your tier list is super considerate with people getting into amp modellers

[@JohnPaulGiancarlo]

Great timing, I am looking to buy one but I am a bit unsure what to do! Thanks for this bro

[@GaryDGuitar]

It's weird to have a tier list with gear you haven't even tried. I personally have owned multiple kempers, helix, hx stomp, and a boss gx-100. I kept the Boss, it's easily A tier.

[@brucerawsthorne1338]

Watching this Oct 24 the QC as really caught up ,absolutely love mine

[@neildeakin4454]

Kemper above Quad Cortex? You're drunk. QC software is now open beta and first plugin due to land in a few weeks. I think it will need a re consideration.

[@donniejean]

Well exactly. Youre talking about things that arent even out yet. They weren’t at the time of this video.

[@Xperize666]

Great video, i want to buy a very good product in want to give a little bit money in it, but nothing was rear the real Deal for me and then i got for a week. The tone x paddle for a great price and i must say you can do everything what the Quad quarters wanted to do and the only thing. Is you have no delay, but this is the only Problem a Sounds amazing and i am the same opinion like you. I love the tonex for this price and a Sounds amazing and you have of the best Editor and you get every top 5 and tone x-max. This is surprise Killer man

[@LifeOnceLived]

Man I was worried you weren’t going to give helix s tier 😂 I love them

[@Lerxsty2112]

HR Pedalboard has "Scenes" that do what Helix does. HR Prime does too, plus the touch screen - that makes it a S tier for me.

[@peterbatten596]

If the quad cortex comes out and finally makes it to run the plugins natively, I’m dropping the money instantly I see it.

[@TJ_Eternal_Argonaut]

So the QC doesn't have plugin capability, BUT you can capture your plugins which is dope

[@metallaholic]

my axe fx is my favorite to play but if its not hooked to a computer to tweak, im having a bad time. i had a better user experience when i used the helix. the sounds from the axe make up for the lack of the UI in some ways. regardless, it is a GREAT time to be a guitar player. they all sound so good to what we had less than 10 years ago.

[@pauljosse]

i have a helix and a headrush recently was given to me, i love both of them but helix is the better of the two especially the high gain stuff, but if i had to explain it, the helix sounds more processed and polished and the headrush sound more real and orgainic, both are good, if i only had a headrush the ONLY reason that would make me sell it for a helix is if i wanted the badonk amp model for death metal. Otherwise I can get both sounding good. Helix has way more options too. Both rock, I want to make that clear.

[@Jurrx]

You can use Auto-Tune as a Guitar-FX sounds very intresting when you set it correctly, because the guitar auto-correct itself and make it to a very intresting auto pitch shifting feature, if you are open to explore new sounds. And lets be honest there are to much "singers" who probably should use it, I mean I have a hughe "All the things I hate"- Bfmv trauma, several times xD.

[@TudorAdrian]

Some interesting decisions here (some of which I agree with, others I question) but overall good delivery.

[@billyrepko5038]

Not sure if I agree with your ranking. If you are editing on the unit itself I would agree that the Helix is a bit easier to use than the Fractal, but if you are using a computer as an editor, I would say Fractal is easier than Helix.

[@shanewalton8888]

The $100 Zoom G1X-Four failed to even get a mention. lol

[@TomPapasBread]

Was wondering how far down in the comments I'd get before someone mentioned zoom. Might get sneered at for the name and price point but the modelling deserves to be in the conversation since the N series came out.

[@KordTaylor]

Just a note that I use a powered floor monitor with an unpowered when I need it. Make it pretty easy.

[@diabolicwaste]

as a helix user im so happy it got s tier

[@Gatecreeper69]

I love how the Kemper sounds better than all of these after 10 or so years. Everything else on this list has a new model every couple of years. Enough said.

[@pikkz394]

I love my positive grid

[@Musicman3832]

Now you can honestly gig with a positive grid because of the new spark cab.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

true

[@matthewmontano1948]

I know this video is 11 months old, but if u had to revisit it. Where do u think you would rank the Fender tone master pro? I'm in the marker for a Amp modeler now. I'm stuck between the Helix, QC or the Fender.

[@ShreddingFinn]

Kemper profiles will hold up with anything else today still.

[@ShallieDragon]

Interesting that you mentioned the Helix but not the HX-Stomp. That feels like the quintessential portable modeler. Though I may be misinterpreting.

[@s.e.n3264]

$1,700 affordable??? Bro fuck the what????. Sorry but nearly $2,000 you might as well go with a 5150 half stack. Cuz that's about how much you'll spend. Donner is the way to go. Under $300. Great sounding sims and IR, plus alot of effects with the ability to save 152 custom presets. It can be used with headphones, computer, poweramp and cap setup, and also front of house. Definitely the best bang for your buck. I'm going to be getting one soon.

[@msi1985]

Would love to see this same play run back with different hardware! So many new releases 😍

[@rutger4131]

I don't think Neural will ever truly port their plugins to the QC. By the time they get that done, it's time probably high time for a 2nd gen piece of hardware.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

if it never happens, I wonder how the guitar community will react. Wouldn't that be false advertising?

[@rutger4131]

@@xanderraymondcharles they should've designed it with cross compatibility in mind from the start. Either they didn't or they don't want you to know. There is the Soldano SLO plugin and there is also a Soldano SLO in the QC. But they are not the same SLO. That seems rather intentional to me, and that really rubbed me the wrong way. I still play the Plini plugin a lot, love it and I can't wait for them to port it to the new plugin platform so that it's fully midi compatible (it's not right now!). Let's see them keep that promise first. Neural is really bad at following through.

[@AdamManley7]

@@rutger4131yeah man it was a money grab from the start really

[@-SILON]

Yes, that's a tough one. I don't think they should have ever promised that. Looks like the software is coming. Who knows when, but I'm still a QC lover and not regretting it at all as the interface is top-notch. All of these modelers pretty much do the job. Axe-fx, with an app or a touchscreen would definitely be game over for the rest.

[@BrianVallotton]

A pretty fair assessment. I enjoyed your presentation. I have the QC and I agree that it is a bummer they have taken so long to fulfill some of the promises at launch. It is a great unit. I have had mine for over 8 months now. The running joke on this unit is "Soon"... I think they bit off a bit more than they could chew, but in fairness to Neural they have done something amazing and when they do their next big upgrade it may change a lot of people's minds about where they stand in the grand scheme of things. (You essentially said this in your vid). God bless and rock on my man!

[@xanderraymondcharles]

thanks for watching dude!

[@josuastangl7140]

I agree, they should have never promised half of what they did and everyone would love the unit. It's solit A tier and with a desktop editor (now finally actually around the corner) and a proper market place... and maaaaybe plugins, if S tier

[@2dazetake]

I'm still using my zoom 505 and digitech RP 100 they can be complicated and they are old now,I'm hoping these new modelers will be worthy enough to gig with, because while these processers can be fun I just never gig with one,the tone sounds better thru individual pedals to me,I can't stop flipping thur patches on a modeler, long enough to find my tone,hopefully the new ones sound a little better.

[@priorwitness]

I've owned a few of these over the years: Boss GT1000CORE, MX5, and the old Digitech RP1000. HATED the Boss. User interface killed it for me. Tones I thought were just ok. MX5 I actually grew to not like. My switches weren't responsive and the expression pedal was worthless over time as you can't calibrate it and it was off after a while. I'm back to the real thing for now just because I like my buttons and dials and it's nice to reach over to the amp or down to your pedal and adjust something on the fly. Something you can't do with any of this stuff without going into some menu. I'll probably give one of these a shot that actually have all those knobs on them like an Amp Academy from NUX or the ToneX. One thing is for sure is that it's hard to find an Amp Modeler that is just bad in 2023. Whatever you buy it's going to sound good. Something that could not be said just 10 years ago.

[@sleepingkindaof]

The fender gtx100 is what I use, its a pretty cool modeling amp

[@shanewalton8888]

These are pretty cool.

[@SuperWhy555]

Am I the only one who thought of Eminem when Ray said “I’ll get off my soapbox”? 😆

[@jacquesmonette9775]

If Line6 were to ever come out with a Helix that had a power section, its game over...

[@kond1e]

I like how "interesting" is used for disappointment..I kinda feel the boss Gt1000 should be above the spark 40

[@QuoVadis88]

November 2023, time for another ranking.

[@AnonymousUser66649]

Fair comparison!

[@thor_nay]

Helix S? Soundwise it is now clearly surpassed. Its cab sims are really lacking against Fractal and Neural. Quad Cortex can load plugins now btw

[@xanderraymondcharles]

This video is old bud

[@russellzauner]

I only know two places to leave this and this is one of them. Dean is working with Eastwood on a Baritone.

[@xanderraymondcharles]

oh sweet! Excited to hear about it!

[@russellzauner]

@@xanderraymondcharles It's on the Eastwood site right now, only 12 being made, preorders are open now. EDIT: it's not exactly my thing but Dean/Baritone/limited release - someone is going to be super thrilled by it and I'm just glad Dean's still getting involved in projects with actual players - Eastwood sells a LOT of guitars, and a LOT of those are *reissues* so my hope is that if Eastwood and Dean get along...maybe we get some classic Dean reissues, maybe even configurations we didn't get before - like a Cadillac style bari or something.

[@1992Apocalypse]

I wasn't super impressed with the sounds from the Tone x. Even tried the user sounds on tonenet, etc. Gonna try a quad cortex asap, they seem to be the option for no compromise on tone

[@mikepetney8400]

just bought a Tonex last week and love it!

[@markinthemix6055]

YOUR KIDDING ME RIGHT? The desktop editor that was on display at NAMM is still not available? 🤔

[@jakebergen1837]

October 9th according to the news updates on neural dsp website.

[@PikaStu666]

I just sold my GT-1000, mainly down to the fact I really disliked the built-in wah and pitch shifting effects. Plus I didn't like the feel of the physical pedal. However, I can't fault anything else about it. Great amp and effects tones, bluetooth editing for a quick adjustment on stage, the Boss laptop software is great for editing. If the GT Core had bluetooth, I'd probably have bought that to replace it, however I'm experimenting with a pedalboard again...

[@alexandremercier5022]

I have a GX-100 and it's pretty good. Pretty much has the same effects than the GT line. It's half the price of a GT-1000 and has a touch screen. You can add a bluetooth adapter to run it with the app. If you liked the GT-1000 but don't need as much power and in/out options I'd recommend it

[@PikaStu666]

@@alexandremercier5022 Yeah my co-guitarist had one, he actually sold his 100 and bought my 1000. Like I said, my issue was the feel of the physical pedal, and the wah / whammy effects. I've gone back to my Bad Horsie and Digitech Whammy. I still highly recommend both Boss processors though.

[@alexandremercier5022]

@@PikaStu666 yeah Morley wahs are great! I still use my Tremonti power wah a lot more than the ones from the GX

[@MrStrato81]

I have the GT 1000 core. Im very Happy with it. Sounds amazing. Its not perfecto but its very flexible

[@Obssy]

Good video. You should also check out Hotone Ampero.

[@peterbatten596]

The kemper wasn’t made to be any more. The kemper will always be the kemper which will always have a place in my heart whatever I use.

[@bread6085]

I will buy a quad cortex when they make plug in availability an option

[@xanderraymondcharles]

As will I if that happens…