Amtrak Cascades' Spanish Tilting Train: The Talgo 8 - Business Class

[@allanralston7014]

The shorter cars on Talgo allow a wider spacious body, but I think they must have drunk too much Rioja when they were designing the front end

[@LonestarTrips]

Clearly lol 😆

[@mariovieira838]

Supposedly the original cab cars were supposed to have the same appearance of the protorype BT Cab cars of an experimental Talgo teainset (that still exists: it was sold to Spain's Adif rail infrastructure company, being used as a 'check up' train in both high speed and convantional nerworks, being dual gauge, and it's the world's fastest diesel train), but FRAs denands dictsted that Frankenstein thing

[@gdrriley420]

They aren't any wider though, they aren't anywhere near the 10ft6in limit

[@trainrover]

Puget Sound tracking with its laughable speed restrictions & all give these swinging yankee Talgos a fuckingly NASTY ride :brrrRrr:

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

The Cascades livery is chef's kiss, and I enjoy the Sounder livery as well. And once again, being able to chillax and have a can of Coke without having to worry about driving is the benefit of riding an intercity train like this one! Not to mention the wonderful scenery in the Pacific Northwest. You can't go wrong with a can of Coke. Talgo built a facility in Wisconsin in particular because initially Talgo 8's were made as part of an agreement in 2009 to supply two 14-car trainsets for the Amtrak Hiawatha Service. However, Governor Scott Walker rejected the federal funding and cancelled the project. The company expressed hope the plant would later be used to build trains for other US projects, which ended up being the Cascades thanks to the Oregon Department of Transportation purchasing two 13-car sets in early 2010, which were delivered in 2013. The two Hiawatha sets sat unused in Talgo's plant until 2014 when they were moved to a maintenance facility in Indiana as Michigan wanted to use them for the Wolverine. Three years later, Amtrak also proposed leasing or buying them in the wake of the 2017 Washington train derailment. However, these were eventually sold to Nigeria for use on the Lagos Rail Mass Transit

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Ah yes, an Italian-style station with Spanish trains manufactured in the US...Mr. Worldwide! Mount Jefferson is a stratovolcano in Oregon, and is the state's second-highest summit. The volcano was first ascended by E. C. Cross and R. L. Farmer in 1888 and named after Thomas Jefferson, however before that, it was called Seekseekqua by Native Americans and Mount Vancouver by the British. It and the other Cascade volcanoes were formed thanks to the subduction of the oceanic Juan de Fuca tectonic plate under the continental North American tectonic plate, forming about 730,000 years ago. And man, I just love it when a train station has a neat clock tower, and King Street and Portland Union are no exceptions! Especially the nice touch of Portland Union having a Go by Train sign, because it's true! King Street's 242 feet tall clock tower was modeled after the Campanile di San Marco in Venice, and when the tower was built in the early 1900s, it was the tallest structure in Seattle! My favorite train station clock tower is the one at Hoboken Terminal because I used to live in Jersey City and so I've loved visiting Hoboken and just staring at the clock tower as well as looking down at it from the top of the Palisades. That one isn't as old as the King Street one as the Hoboken one is actually a replica as the original was replaced in the 1940s by a radio tower to use the clock tower's copper for WWII and said radio tower was finally removed in 2006.

[@momentogabe]

Something I love about King Street Station is that when the Seattle City Council decided to buy the station from BNSF to restore it, the wanted to buy it from BNSF for $1 just to make it official. BNSF managed to raise the total to, 10 whole dollars.

[@LonestarTrips]

Lol that's awesome. Imagine being the one to hand over the $10 for an entire station.

[@momentogabe]

@@LonestarTrips Similar thing happened with the Waterloo & City Line in 1994 when it was finally handed over from Network Rail. Whole tube line for like a pound!

[@atlanticrblx7784]

Cascades can become HSR by buying a new trainset.

[@LonestarTrips]

@@atlanticrblx7784 Unfortunately, they cannot. The maximum they theoretically could run at without a new, dedicated right of way, is 110 mph, but that would still require infrastructure upgrades. That being said, I know that a couple entities are looking at upgrading the Pacific NW corridor to run at 110, with others looking at a full high speed line between Vancouver, BC and Portland.

[@davidjackson7281]

@@LonestarTrips Are there any clear areas where some of the route could incorporate 125 mph track?

[@timothynoel786]

I was told ( by a now retired Conductor ) that the colors of the Cascades are Evergreen and Double Latte!!😂

[@LonestarTrips]

Actually, you're right! I had to find an official color palette for the map animation, and the colors are listed as "Evergreen, Double Latte, Castilian Copper, and Nugget."

[@SamNYC2000]

Two pro tips: if it's a clear day, sit on the left heading south for great views of the Cascade volcanoes. And the locals pronounce it 'will-AM-ett'

[@knishofdeath]

It's "will-AM-ett" dammit ;-)

[@rufusmainwaring3513]

@@knishofdeath was going to bring up the saying 😄

[@bbundridge]

The Talgo's are staying put but going to their state owner, Oregon. They'll continue running between Portland and Eugene. The Airos will be used for everything else, including Van BC to Eugene service.

[@HockeyLord22_MW]

Sounds cool. Can't wait for it

[@LonestarTrips]

😄

[@syrax101]

I will definitely say that ride is very smooth. I took the Talgo 6 and 8 trains to Portland. Talgo 8 is sleek but the seats are a little rigid. It’s too bad they use the Dupoint Bypass route instead of the Pudget sound route. It’s faster but the view of Pudget sound and islands near it looks amazing.

[@LonestarTrips]

I agree that the seats leave a little to be desired, but it's nice to get a change of scenery from the usual Amtrak fleet. I also would have loved to see the Puget Sound from the railway, though the bypass has been open again for quite some time, so no dice there.

[@stewarer]

@syrax101 I couldn't agree more. The journey around the Sound was the highlight of the joruney! I often liked to sit backwards on the starboard side when heading south so I could see the two Narrows bridges and the whole water edge spool out. What a fantastic way to travel.

[@davidburrow5895]

Amtrak really does need to make business class a more consistent product. What is and isn't included should be clear, and the perks should be the same across all trains.

[@LonestarTrips]

I think it mentions the coupon thing on the Cascades website, but coming from literally anywhere else on the network, you'd really have to be looking for it to notice.

[@jessicaburdell7779]

Can't wait to see your next venture headed down on the Lake Shore. Depending on what time it gets through Utica, you just might see me either departing or arriving on one of my shifts working the Adirondack Railroad's "Gateway" train that runs to Tupper Lake.

[@LonestarTrips]

The LSL video is going to be a good one (and long one)! We definitely didn't get into Utica on time, so I doubt we'll see you. (Also I don't think I mentioned Uitca cause my roomette was on the wrong side to actually see anything 😒)

[@PatrickLeFloch]

Thanks!

[@LonestarTrips]

Thank you for the Super Thanks!

[@SeattleTrain]

7:23 I think it no longer works. I went on today and could not change the audio channel from 1

[@tm752]

One doesn't get a lounge with a biz class ticket on Amtrak in the east. Only 1st class on the Acela or sleeper accommodation is entitled to the lounge. Also Select Plus and above members of Guest Rewards can gain access to lounges.

[@ozgirl45]

Such an interesting train! I like that there are steps to cover the gap between train and platform and I hope they have them on the new train sets. At the stations I use on the NEC (EWK International and Philadelphia), where I am trying to manoeuvre a carryon and personal bag, there is nothing to do but swing the bags on/off then hope I make it over the gap.

[@gerardorodriguezsanchez7114]

This is really super weird to see though. Here in Spain and the rest of Europe, Talgos are well known cause you can get into the coach at the same level of the platform.

[@metra90railfan]

Why do the locomotives look like trucks on rails!? Whatever the designers were smoking when they made the monstrosity, I want some for sure 🤣🤣

[@nolantherailfan5048]

These talgo 8 trains aren't being replaced. They're still sorta new so they're gonna stick around with the airos

[@Bertie_Ahern]

Choo-choo!

[@tedharrison4522]

Living in Vancouver, Canada, the Cascades provides a great service (7x more service than VIA provides Vancouver!) but the Business Class ticket isn't worth it on this route. Usually 3x the price with no free snacks and no lounge. The coach seats on the Talgo and Horizon cars are just fine.

[@stewarer]

Agree that business class is a waste of money for such a short trip. I miss the old cafe/lounge car that had the side seating in the car. I remember a very memorable conversation over a glass of wine on my way down from Vancouver to Seattle that ended up with dinner afterward.

[@robyoungquist5803]

Right now the only reason to take the Cascades is for the scenery. 😉👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻. When the Arrow seats finally arrive, now you’re talking business ☺️. Speaking of which, I think Amtrak needs to seriously upgrade its business class product including premium at your seat meal service much like onboard European premium trains.

[@LonestarTrips]

Meals in business class would be fantastic. Considering that Business is the highest class of service on intercity trains outside of the NEC, it really should have a similar quality to First Class on the Acela.

[@StefanWithTrains]

it is actually Airo, not Arrow

[@robyoungquist5803]

@@StefanWithTrains … thank you for the correction. 😉👍🏻. Whatever it is, it’s sorely needed. The U.S. has a very long way to go to make people outside the NEC want to actually ride Amtrak much less consider it. There is hope though. 🫤

[@StefanWithTrains]

@@robyoungquist5803 just let me manage the railways and ket me say, the US wouldn't be the fastest but the most effectively build system and most effeciently run system in the world.

[@stephenkeever6029]

Absolutely thorough as usual. I have watched other reports on this train set but none were as in depth as yours. I finally feel as if I have been on one of these trains as I don't expect to be out that way for a few years when they should be replaced. Thanks!

[@LonestarTrips]

Thanks a lot as always. I'm glad you were able to live vicariously through the video and experience these great trainsets. It's definitely worth getting out west if you can to experience them first hand before they're removed from service.

[@trainrover]

bullshit --- it's one of Corporateria's tellingly-impotent corporateers m e r e l y marketing --- it'd be thoughtful were you to try encouraging it to at least do its poncy pipsqueaking in English, by the way 💡💡💡

[@marciaharder1647]

Nice job

[@LonestarTrips]

Thanks!

[@amzymartinez9596]

Yay

[@LonestarTrips]

😀

[@mxg75]

I’ve traveled on the Talgo 6’s. It’s a shame they weren’t able to address the saftey issues, they were great to ride on.

[@hurricanemxg]

WSDOT hates Talgo, and rather than pay the service contract they decided to not fix the 6s, which is why we have horizons from the carter administration now.

[@quayzar1]

Honestly I think it was a rash decision to retire them before a new set was available. The NTSB noted that they didn't handle their crash well but it's hard to imagine any car doing too well at the speed they derailed regardless of car design. Besides the additional mass, worn nature, and older design of the Horizon cars now being used might actually be more dangerous in a similar crash. Frankly if PTC had been established when it was supposed to be that accident would never have happened and people would still be enjoying the older Talgo sets today.

[@SellthebigA]

Yaaaaaay!!!

[@LonestarTrips]

😊

[@OfficialETandM]

Can’t wait!!

[@LonestarTrips]

It's gonna be a good one!

[@OfficialETandM]

@@LonestarTrips Oh ya! You betcha!

[@willgibson9718]

Can you please make a video about south station to Springfield

[@LonestarTrips]

@@willgibson9718 I may in the future, but I'll have to plan it well in advance.

[@willgibson9718]

@@LonestarTrips because the lake store 🏬 liteed stops in Springfield ma what happened to the states of nerds?

[@alexanderboulton2123]

Even compared to airlines, Amtrak's amenities are not that good; however, these are things that can be improved.

[@BoeingAvation8490]

Can't wait

[@LonestarTrips]

😊

[@guillermominarro2023]

That’s right boys buy Spanish trains

[@guillermominarro2023]

Come to Spain 🇪🇸 bro

[@kietero]

That's something to consider here in Japan as well. Japan Rail does NOT offer complementary services for their Green Class accommodations. No lounge either. It's not like you're paying for extra legroom either. Reserved and non-reserved seating on the bullet trains offer the same amount of legroom as Amtrak long distance. Green Cars on commuter services that offer them offer about half the legroom and is probably the only perk worth it vs. standing inside of an overpacked tuna can. All the videos on KZbin about getting "luxurious accommodations" on the bullet trains are wastes of time. Something to consider when you come out here and experience the awesomeness that are the bullet trains. Stay in reserved class - Green cars aren't really worth it without all the perks that should come with it.

[@hypecat9138]

Did you have to make sure it was bound for Eugene? I know the trainsets are owned by ODOT. The horizon cars have better coach class seats though. The service would be really transformative for the region, if fares were reduced, frequency was increased, and delays remedied. Looking forward to it🙂

[@LonestarTrips]

Our ride south will be on train 505 with a final destination of Eugene.

[@davidjackson7281]

Too bad for the slow average speed of 50 mph. Besides more frequency, the trip would be an hour faster were the tracks upgraded and improved to enable an average speed of 75 mph.

[@himbourbanist]

I luv train

[@LonestarTrips]

Me too.

[@himbourbanist]

🥲@@LonestarTrips

[@dennisyoung4631]

How “chill” is the Seattle station? I hope to go north next year on it, and “chill” is really important to me, due to a strong tendency toward sensory overload.

[@LonestarTrips]

It was fine tbh. There's usually some seats available in the far corners that are pretty secluded. Plus there's usually only one train coming or going at a time, so it's way less chaotic than anything in the Northeast.

[@coryphillips8526]

I agree with you about the locomotive. It is weird looking

[@Drewster327]

8:47 i didnt know santa rides the talgos

[@davidng2336]

These probably won’t be here for longer as they’re getting the Venture trainsets.

[@danielrota7491]

how old is this video? I though that all the Cascade Talgo had been withdraw from service a few years ago after the wreck I forgot where. I even think that there only two remaining in The US scheduled for scrapping. I traveled with Talgo between Spain & France I enjoyed the ride and especially the automatic unlocking & relocking the wheels allowing to change from standard gage (France) to wide gage (Spain) while travelling. no stop required

[@LonestarTrips]

This was filmed in mid June of this year. The older Talgo 6 sets were all scrapped after the accident, but the two Talgo 8 sets remain in service. I’ve always wanted to see the gage changing in action. It seems like such an ingenious solution to the problem of traveling between Spain and France.

[@stewarer]

@@LonestarTrips that's an interesting insight that might have been useful to share at the top of the video when mentioning the reduction in the fleet on the Cascade route. I took the train from Tacoma to Portland the day before the maiden voyage of the inland route that resulted in the derailment when the conductor could not slow the train enough when entering a curve at high speed. The local news here never followed up on the crash analysis so it's been niggling at the back of my mind. Now at least I know it was the old Talgo 6 that contributed to the crash, although I still don't understand why...

[@Backslasherton]

Does the tradtional locomotive at the rear of the train not impact the tilting function at all? I would imagine a large non-tilting loco like that might add a series of problems that the Talgo sets were designed to mitigate.

[@peterelvery]

No. The air bag suspension is mounted high up on either side of the gangway between each car so they tilt semi-independently due to centrifugal force.

[@LonestarTrips]

The traditional locomotive doesn't hinder the tilting function at all. Talgo designed these trains in two parts: the chassis and the car body. The car bodies are able to rotate above the airbag suspension while the chassis, and subsequently the coupling mechanism, stay parallel to the tracks. (See this info graphic: www.trains.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/trn-at0711_a-talgo-suspension.jpg) Good question though!

[@davidsanzrivera8899]

Talgo train sets have always been pulled by nontilting locomotives in Spain, for decades. So I guess that is not a factor

[@davidsanzrivera8899]

What I wanted to say is that there was never a tilting locomotive for Talgos. They were always pulled by traditional ones

[@af8312]

A lot of folks bitch about business class not being consistent, but do recall the fact that the majority of Amtrak riders are riding coach, and furthermore, as a tax supported public service, amtrak owes the majority of it's efforts towards improving the experience for the highest number of riders, which doesn't meant spending money on business class, it means spending money on increased service frequency and reduced delays.

[@regulusmuphrid4891]

Talgo trains are sooooo underrated, its good seeing them being apreciated but I too have to say that Talgo's designs are a little... cuestionable 😅

[@hurricanemxg]

It’s will-AM-it, dammit!

[@anthonywarrener1881]

Thank you for this excellent video which I thoroughly enjoyed. The Talgo cars are very neat, and ride extremely well, it is unfortunate that the Talgo cars have been found to be less crashworthy than the earlier Amfleet 1 and Horizon cars, which led to the withdrawal of the first series. I agree the forthcoming Venture cars look fabulous, and like you can’t wait to ride them !

[@LonestarTrips]

From what I understand, the Talgo series 6 sets were still well within the crashworthiness standards of the FRA, but they were known to have many maintenance issues, and be expensive to repair. Amtrak and WSDOT used the Point Defiance crash to justify removing them from service even though they could have kept running for many years after.

[@carlchu2180]

Seattle Amtrak's King St Station, does not need a business lounge. If you really want a lounge, walk 50 ft to the Embassy's restaurant, go over the overhead crossover to Chinatown, or a block down Jackson St to Zeitgeist Coffee.

[@harishrp4449]

Reminds me Tamilnadu Express

[@AndreiTupolev]

I'm not sure if they look worse than RENFE's 'Ducks' or not. It's a very close thing...

[@gdrriley420]

talgo while they can technically run with more unbalance are limited to the same 5in as all other amtrak single level cars so they've lost their speed advantage I expect these cars will get the interior refurbished after the venture sets enter service in a few years given then are 11 years old and will be 13-14 before they can be.

[@stewarer]

Do the new Siemens Aerosets also tilt like the independent axle Talgos for higher speed curves? I miss the Sound route that had such spectacular views, but I suppose the extra 20-30 minutes saved is a trade-off most people like.

[@Eaglescout217]

Aero trainsets are based on the Venture cars which are in service with Amtrak Midwest, VIA, and Brightline

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

Great video! But what was Talgo thinking when they designed this train?

[@LonestarTrips]

They were thinking straight right up until they got to the cab car, and then everything fell apart. 😂

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

​@LonestarTrips I mean, seriously, everything else on the train is so cool. Then you get TO the cab car, when all the greatness of the train is shattered

[@LonestarTrips]

@@adventuresofamtrakcascades301Yeah I'll never understand the design decisions made for the cab car. Like I totally understand the need to comply with the FRA crashworthiness standards, but that doesn't mean it has to look so ugly.

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

​@@LonestarTripsMetrolinks and TriRails CEM cab cars saw nearly the same thing, but designed with Crash Energy Management Crumble Zone Technology. They ain't the best either, but I will admit they look a lot better than that Talgo one

[@LonestarTrips]

@@adventuresofamtrakcascades301They also look better than the hyundai rotem cab cars, so I'll take it.

[@ABCantonese]

Rewatching the tech talk. How was the ride? Latest videos out of Europe were complaining about the ride. Granted, you're going only 80mph

[@danh1284]

Disappointed by one omission: After describing the tilting feature in the intro, you had nothing to say about actually experiencing it? Did you feel it? Did you try to lean into it anyway, just for grins? Or was it So Darn Smooth that you didn't actually notice /anything/ about a high-speed corner?

[@LonestarTrips]

It's a passive tilting mechanism, so there's not really much tilting to be done at lower speeds. Also because it's passive, it reacts in time with the track, so you hardly ever notice it.

[@mariovieira838]

Those Talgos are a real oddity; interiors seem to be an adaptation of the srandard interior design of the Spanish ones with some added festures. The Lounge is really nice and something built per request. The bar is really different. Actually Talgo 8 is a special designation for those Antrak sets, since the higher number type of that kind in Spain is the Talgo 7. I you didn"t got any jointed rail, because under such circumstances Talgos ride qualities are really bad. And these sets are sort of a return to the origins for Talgo since their 1st trains for comercial use were built by ACF in Berwick, PA, including specially designed locomotives. One of the 5 sets was even used as a demonstrator. Another thing in common with their Spanish brethern is the fact that such type of 'conventional' Talgo sets being a rarity. With all the High speed lines in service, there are few conventional operations, and there are lots of stored train sets. But they ioerate at much higher speeds than the Cascades services (100 to 125 Mph). Nowadaways Talgo has soecialized in High speed trainsets, some of them being for low cost ooerations with a 'Sardine can' sesting arrangement; 3+2

[@LonestarTrips]

Thanks for the wonderful info! I agree it's particularly interesting that most of the Talgo sets in operation are high speed trains and not traditional Talgos. It does seem that traditional Talgos are making a comeback, as DB has received their first ICE L, and Egyptian railways their Talgo sets.

[@mariovieira838]

@@LonestarTrips From those two, only the egiptian sets are 'regular speed ' sets (they ooerate at a maximum of 70 Mph). The ICE-L (and also the norwegian sets that are similar), technically are high speed trains, and some strange ones from the Family, being prepared to operate for high platforms

[@Greatdome99]

The car bodies were built in Spain but the interiors were designed and installed in Seattle at a local shipbuilder. The grotesque, ugly control cabs were designed and hatched in Wisconsin. Note they have no pilots ('cowcatchers'). Like all lightweight trains, Talgos ride rough; heavier cars utilize flex in the rails and roadbed to further cushion the ride; Talgos just bounce over them. WSDOT gives BNSF millions annually to maintain smoother tracks for a better ride, including new switch frogs to accommodate Talgo's 28-inch rails.

[@bbundridge]

Also - You should not open the doors on the trainsets. They have permabanned passengers for operating the doors.

[@LonestarTrips]

That seems a little over the top.

[@bbundridge]

@@LonestarTrips it had to do something with the interlock and it would not allow the trainset brakes to release. It still happens from time to time, so they prefer to have the Conductor or Assistant open it up.

[@marciaharder1647]

What is your next video gonna be about

[@LonestarTrips]

Next week is a ride on the Lake Shore Limited from Chicago to New York!

[@marciaharder1647]

Yay

[@darthmaul216]

5:35 small correction. The 777x is getting developed in Everett not Renton. That’s a 737 that you saw

[@LonestarTrips]

It was a 777x. I am 100% sure.

[@felicetanka]

Hispania 220 BC.

[@samtrak1204]

No food shops in a busy station like King Street or is it really that busy?

[@LonestarTrips]

It's not really that busy, but even Portland has a convenience store.

[@michaelscott7706]

So it still needs a genesis locomotive for power? I thought it was an independent trainset.

[@Danse_Macabre_125]

I think it's usually an SC44 Charger, although I could be wrong as I'm not American

[@shanegermany5803]

Trains and Buses are never going to compete with the car unless travel time is severely reduced. Over 3hrs for a journey of 174m is too slow, when driving takes 2h 40m. Also the frequency should be hourly and from Vancouver to Portland. Thier is talk of HSR in the cascades and these new trains from Amtrak should fit in with that aim. 100mph should be the target speed.

[@LonestarTrips]

I believe they're planning on upping current operational speeds to 110 mph, with other groups looking into a proper high speed rail line through the Pacific NW.

[@davidjackson7281]

I agree wholeheartedly. Perhaps if they ever actually up the top speed tracks to 110 mph with some 125 mph trackage like the hugely successful Brightline system then maybe just maybe an average speed of 80 mph could be achieved and thus reduce the trip time to 2:20 thus faster than driving. There would be so much more demand that the frequencies could also be improved immensely.

[@jk2974]

Sadly, BNSF owns the tracks and doesn't seem to care about speed. They would DEFINITELY need to be upgraded. I rode the Coach Starlight from Portland north once, in the upper level observation car - at 80 mph, the car bounced and rocked terribly - couldn't wait to get off!

[@brabblemaster401]

@@jk2974 Yes BNSF owns it. If someone doesn't like their owned property then buy it to fix it or build a new one. Why would a freight company put billions into upping the speed when they have zero need for it with their fleets. Frieght can only move so fast, also the route isnt condusive to much faster than 110 without routing sections

[@thyagarajannatarajan6234]

will you ever do a face reveal

[@LonestarTrips]

I will at some point. Not sure when though or at what milestone.

[@Asurflinerrailfan]

Those cab cars…..

[@ModMokkaMatti]

There's a "trail" in Centralia, not a "trall". Cordially, a fourth-generation Western Washingtonian.

[@georgekarnezis4311]

54 dollars seems like a cheep business class ticket

[@rutheliz75]

The front end is ugly but the old bar cars had the most amazing and stylish interiors !

[@jacobwright9557]

All these train sets were retired months ago. They've been using horizons since then.

[@LonestarTrips]

Nope. They retired the Talgo 6 sets a while back, but the Talgo 8s remain in service.

[@jacobwright9557]

@LonestarTrips Oh right, mixed those up. Keep on making great content!

[@LonestarTrips]

@@jacobwright9557Haha all good. I get them mixed up too sometimes.

[@jk2974]

@@LonestarTrips While they MAY run some of the Talgo sets from time to time, they are mostly running old Amtrak sets. Apparently the lease/maintenance arrangement between WADOT and Talgo has expired. You were very fortunate to get to ride the Talgo.

[@timbacchus]

I saw Santa Claus in one of the cars.

[@nathanhudson-young2460]

While the cars look nice, the cab car looks ugly to me. (According to Amtrak Guy 365 which I totally agree with.) It looks like the designers didn't know if they were designing a car or a truck only to realize last minute they were designing a train.

[@trainrover]

no mistaking that Asiatic Corporate-speak...what m u s t they be t'inking..........

[@LonestarTrips]

What?

[@AndreiTupolev]

I second the reply above

[@trainrover]

ever fouling Corporate-tongue 🍿🍿🍿

[@AndreiTupolev]

@@trainrover er, no, sorry, still making no sense. Have you tried running it through an auto-translator to convert what you're trying to say to English? 🤔

[@charlesferebee263]

Great Video. Really. Really Ugly engine 😒

[@LonestarTrips]

I'm so glad you enjoyed! It's a shame the Talgos are so ugly, but at least we have them.

[@bernardbouzon5499]

Those sets deserve an overhaul

[@LonestarTrips]

I 100% agree, though unfortunately that will never be realized, especially with the Airo sets on the way.

[@bernardbouzon5499]

Amtrak culture ☹️