The Amtrak Cascades Train: The Only Spanish Talgo in North America

[@SimplyRailway]

Hey , My bad I did a mistake around 14:50, it's an interior of a S-112 not S-103 . :) Enjoy :)

[@chaosdemonwolf1]

You recorded this while the riots are still going on?

[@timlilijinsheng4070]

well it is not the first and only but the only EXISTING Talgo service in North America, i think the first is used by Rock Island or something with a GM loco, yea the Jet Rocket between Chicago and Peoria, EMD LWT12

[@timlilijinsheng4070]

13:55 me and the Chinese railfans actually feel really bad after watching this because in China, when you're taking the high speed train, they don't serve you fresh, onboard-cooked meals anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Rager_U]

You also properly used the U.S. name "Columbia" for the river once, but later used the name of the country "Colombia". Beautiful report!

[@frankishknight1878]

@@timlilijinsheng4070 Hi, the train you have in mind was the Aerotrain, made in the US with widened bus bodies. It can be seen at the St Louis Missouri Transportation Museum. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_LWT12 Thibault was right.

[@markoobid2005]

Just a little correction: the Talgo coaches have no axle at all. The coaches are resting on two separate wheels between each pair of carriages. The wheels are running independently from one another. Even more fun fact: the wheels are connected to the roof (!!) of coaches with two big hydraulic stabilizers. That makes the passive tilting effect, too.

[@justanotherasian4395]

That’s an interesting way of doing things.

[@martinum4]

This is also why Multi-gauge-trains are often Talgo, simplified: The wheels are just pushed further apart.

[@stephanweinberger]

@@martinum4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6ixnWCdlJ5kfac

[@tech4pros1]

@@justanotherasian4395 though it does create a maintenance problem, as you can no longer uncouple and remove a single coach from the formation and a fault renders the entire rake inoperable. with traditionally coupled coaches a defective coach can easily be shunted out of the formation.

[@ESMengu]

All Spanish passenger trains have been like that for a while, it's all multiple-unit trains and Talgo consists, and the service provided hasn't deteriorated nor have operational and logistical challenges increased because of it. Spanish trains are maintained better and more often than most others too, which greatly reduces the frequency with which an entire consist has to be put out of service and taken to repairs due to a defect. Plus, while not personally against conventional trains, multiple-unit trains give off a more modern, safe and clean impression to customers, a perception which in itself isn't without merit either.

[@itsdad0c]

I think you're the only person on KZbin that has reviewed the Talgo Series 8 so far. Thank you for this video!

[@budisoemantri2303]

True, ive never seen this unique looking train

[@YaoboyProd2K15]

AmtrakGuy365 also gave detail and history of Amtrak Cascades too.

[@TeamSenke]

@@YaoboyProd2K15 no one cares about him

[@novastardom2689]

As a wisconsinite, I'm still upset that playing politics had caused us to lose the opportunity to get two of these lovely sets on our lovely rails

[@czheff]

As a fellow Wisconsinite, watching this video was depressing. Thanks Scott Walker.

[@jonthebru]

And the jobs. They and units for other mass transit around the country were going to be built in Wisconsin. Hundreds of jobs were lost. Scott Walker was probably bribed by petroleum interests.

[@aaronwhite1786]

@@jonthebru Worse still, if I remember right, due to the contract, Wisconsin still had to pay for the train cars just to not keep them.

[@mj1234321]

Your loss is Nigeria's gain! Apparently the Wisconsin Talgos are headed to Lagos.

[@The0ldboy]

@@mj1234321 The other day I saw a documentary that they had found oil in that area and the locals came out saying that they had been promised the construction of a railway LOL!!

[@willsen8908]

The amtrak cascades livery is probably my favorite amtrak livery

[@cmiller415]

I live in Vancouver Wa and rode Amtrak between Vancouver (WA) and Seattle twice a month back in the early 90’s when Amtrak was experimenting with high speed trains on the NW corridor. I wish the experiment had continued.

[@stephenhammen2426]

As a WA state resident, it was pretty cool to watch this. I live on the other side of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge seen at 11:00. Also, taking the train to Portland is faster than driving 90% of the time due to traffic. That estimated drive time was incredibly generous, and I wouldn't expect the trip to be that quick by car at all.

[@Lacasika345]

Que orgullo ver cómo España realmente es un país puntero en el mundo en la industria del ferrocarril

[@jayski9410]

Wow, the interior of the station looks so elegant compared to the way it looked when I lived in Seattle back in the 1990's. All that beautiful marble was covered up by a 1960's interior which included a drop-ceiling that made the space feel much smaller. They had just begun poking holes in the wallboard to see how much of the original architecture was still intact behind it.

[@liannebedard5521]

It is one of our better accomplishments for sure.

[@gravellegb]

Union Station in Seattle is not part of King St station. It's actually a former station that has been converted to an office building.

[@robbrewer3861]

And is across the street

[@gammaguy1235]

And it served both Union Pacific and The Milwaukee Road.

[@tractorsmachinesro1405]

Great work...as always💪🚂♨️💖

[@annwilliams6438]

Excellent idea. One of the best put together trip info videos I have watched. Thanks.

[@Mossy-Rock]

Salut, Thibault. Merci pour avoir filmé les trains. C'est un plaisir de regarder tes vidéos! Tu as demandé la propretaire du pont en bois près de la gare Kelso, à Washington. C'était une compagnie ferroviare qui s'appelait Columbia and Cowlitz, et c'était un chemin de fer forestier, abandonné depuis 10 ans, ou plus. Je suis chef de train, qui vaait passé par ce pont plusieurs des fois entre Seattle, et Portland.

[@anthonypecoraro5472]

The Hiawatha and Missouri River Runner are getting new Siemens Venture cars. Those are based on the Viaggio Comfort cars.

[@ronclark9724]

The problem with the Talgo train sets is they are an orphan set in the USA. They don't mix well with other train sets. Most American states, including even Wisconsin, are looking for a more universal standard train set...

[@oregonwesternrailroadprodu5239]

17:03 that trestle was used by the columbia cowlits railroad a shortline in kelso/longview (thought id use my foamer knowledge to help)

[@peterjohnson1012]

I just saw this video and the wealth of information you provide was wonderful. I was born in Seattle and my best friend of mine moved to Portland, OR. At age 8 one of the biggest adventures I had as a child was going by bus, unfortunately, to visit him. I wish they had the Cascade line with the Talgo back then (I'm not going to date myself). I really enjoyed your observations with regards to European railways vs U.S. The irony that Talgo coaches are assembled in Miwaukee, WI but Wisconsin abandoned their use on the Hiawatha line was good for a chuckle. Some things here in the Stares is so forward and others so backwards. I hope this country gets some descent inner city rail on a regular basis eventually. You have a great channel!

[@SimplyRailway]

Thank you Peter :)

[@dalecaldwell]

It's a shme that you missed the most scenic part of this route, from Bellingham to Seattle. Thanks for the great videos.

[@amfm889]

Just in case no one has commented on this earlier: King St. Station is usually open to the public, even if not catching a train. The restrictions have to due with the pandemic. It has nothing to do with "strange people wandering inside." It is indeed a gorgeous station, and well worth visiting when restrictions end. And keeping everyone in the station before your train arrives has been a long-standing procedure. Yes, it's safety related.

[@liannebedard5521]

Update on above comment: Pandemic restrictions are gone…King Street station’s bathrooms are spotlessly maintained, very little evidence of non passengers in the beautifully restored waiting room. The public area at street level seems to have lost all evidence of tents…

[@DennisSmithAIStockImageClub]

I was in Seattle and have rode this train twice but back in the early 2000's to Portland. I upgraded to Business Class on the way back which included a meal for a $10 upgrade. The other time there was an issue with the Talgo train so it was on a regular Amtrak train. There use to be service via the Amtrak Pioneer from Portland, Boise and then SLC but that ended back in the 90's and never returned. Which meant I had to take a bus overnight which was an expeience in itself.

[@Thomas1980]

WOW...Excellent Station and Trains!!!! Nice walk tour Video! Very great!!! Greetings from switzerland :)

[@masterninjahda]

Glad you enjoyed the train and our beautiful part of the country! I passed under that bridge about 15 minutes before the Cascade crash...on my way to work. I got to work, checked the news and saw that there was a derailment. Didn't think much of it until they showed pictures.

[@Lifeofbrian]

Yeah it was crazy, I know the Lezcano driver that the train hit, he was 20 mins ahead of me

[@stephanweinberger]

who ever thought it was a good idea to build a 30mph curve into a new mainline bypass-route... :-(

[@thesledgehammerblog]

Up until the pandemic hit and my job suddenly became full time work from home I rode the Sounder commuter trains that go through King Street Station on a regular basis, and a passenger shuttle to the building in SoDo that I worked in picked up and dropped off in front of the station. You have to have seen just how terrible King Street Station was before the restoration (everything was covered by drop ceiling tiles some time in the Sixties, and the place was just completely soulless) to truly appreciate how nice it looks now. I've also taken the Cascades service up to Vancouver several times, although I think I've been on the Talgo stock for only one of those trips. Also, one minor clarification: The Union Station you mention at 2:35 is a separate building on the opposite side of Fourth Avenue from King Street Station, which now gets used primarily as the headquarters of Sound Transit (the regional transit authority). The great hall of that station is a public space and is pretty interesting to see (lots of echo in there.) It is no longer in use as a train station, but the International District station of the Link Light Rail line (formerly also used by Metro and Sound Transit buses) runs right next to it. As for the scenery, there's also really great waterfront views on the northbound trip between Seattle and Everett and also as you approach and cross the Canadian border around White Rock BC.

[@Brian_rock_railfan]

that trestle bridge you seen is on the Colombia & Cowlitz railway my grandpa drived trains on is at rocky point in north kelso, WA

[@tportrey]

A little further back in history, the trestle was originally built by the Weyerhauser Company. It serviced Weyerhauser's exclusive rail line all the way up to their old log sorting and loading yard which was located about 20 miles west of Mount St Helens. After the volcano erupted in 1980 and the yard was buried by the subsequent mud flows, Weyerhauser ceased operation on the line and sold out the trackage rights to the Columbia & Cowlitz RR.

[@phronsiekeys]

new subscriber here. You are wonderful for showing these spectacular station interiors. I couldn't believe how gorgeous Kansas City is! This is maybe a close second. I wish we could bring back a golden age of rail travel to this country. SO much better than flying.

[@johndornoff]

Great review of the Cascade service. I have taken it many times and the Series 6 trains were much better than the Series 8 trains in my opinion including better seats and a better bistro layout. When I lived in Portland every Saturday I would take a walk through the Pearl District and past the station seeing the trains there wanting to be riding them somewhere. The future of the service is tentative at best and COVID making it worse. Personally, I think they are using the Talgo trainsets as a scapegoat for the problems that caused the derailment and I say that with the fact that I knew two of the three people who died in the derailment. I am pretty sure the horizon or amfleet cars would have suffered just as badly in that tragedy.

[@trainzguy2472]

The Talgo 6 trainsets are non-compliant with FRA crashworthiness standards. Through a lot of bribery, they somehow got a waiver for these cars. On the other hand, the Talgo 8's are reinforced to better withstand accidents.

[@johndornoff]

Yes, but the Talgo 6's are still better from a passenger point of view.

[@GamePro0012]

Vancouver, WA is my local Amtrak station. This is the region I call home.

[@Maximilian7992]

Back when I lived in Washington state for two years, I rode the Cascades from Tacoma, WA to Portland, OR. It was back when they used the series 6 set.

[@jesusse9757]

Magnificent video with beautiful landscapes. The American Talgo train, of Spanish engineering, is very beautiful. Congratulations!! Kind regards from Seville (Spain) Magnífico video con preciosos paisajes. El tren Talgo americano, de ingeniería española, es muy bonito. Enhorabuena!! Saludos cordiales desde Sevilla (España).

[@philiproszak1678]

Thanks for sharing! The pacific northwest is so beautiful. Its interesting to see a Spanish train too.

[@Brick-Life]

I live in Melbourne and went to Vancouver in sep 2019. Took the Amtrak Cascades to Seattle. A lot better than i expected for amtrak

[@ki5739]

The station is like a museum. A beautiful one.

[@Joeyjoey53]

Great video the train is the way to go beautiful scenery and relaxing we need more like this in the states

[@lorenzo_contini_7]

To be honest the front of the train reminds me of bob the builder lol

[@s125ish]

Lorenzo Contini yes very odd look

[@nbayoungboyneverbrokeagain6520]

@Shitty Gayming family guy

[@nbayoungboyneverbrokeagain6520]

@FoxIslanderSteve Tbh it looks pretty cool, Americans are used to the huge trains, interesting to see this running. I like the style and color.

[@dickJohnsonpeter]

Looks like a Fiat Multipla.

[@bluebear6570]

Yeah - that nose is as ugly as it can get!

[@Esperantisto]

Finally a review of a trip I've taken! Love the videos. Would love to see your take on the Bergensbanen in Norway.

[@johnredhd]

I took this train way back in the 90s. It was a great experience!

[@NWguy83]

My friend is a Cascade engineer, former UP engineer. He lives near me, by Tacoma but because of reduced trains they have him working out of Portland instead of Seattle. And yes he plays with model trains and 'live steam' in his off time.

[@DanielsUKT]

Great video on the amtrak cascades from Seattle to Oregon that train does look different to most of the trains in the USA but it's good to have some variety I really like the livery and interior makes the train look very vintage like if its 50 to 100 years old even though it isn't and also the forest and coastal/lake scenery was beautiful and also the Seattle station does look very grand and historical

[@ronclark9724]

Many of the large city Amtrak stations are beauties... Unfortunately some no longer exist...

[@maestromecanico597]

As always, very well done. As already commented, Seattle Union and King Street Stations were built next door to one another but were served by different railroads. Union Station no longer has tracks and is now the offices for the local transit authority. Looking forward to your review of the new Siemens Venture coaches when they enter service in California and the Midwest in the very near future.

[@jslasher1]

The 'Cascades' and 'Coast Starlight' will return to the Point Defiance Bypass on 18 December according to Amtrak press reports. I believe the re-route will shave roughly 8-minutes off the current schedule.

[@lmlmd2714]

The talgo sets are brilliant. They are supremely flexible and very efficient due to the clever axle design. The Trenhotel version of the sets are great sleepers. Given how worn out and labour intensive the Superliners are to operate, it'd be good to see them phased out with Trenhotel sets. Also I think the Talgo XXI diesel high speed set could be a good way forward for high speed rail in the US. Sure it's not as fast as a true TGV or AVE like setup, but they can run on existing track without electrification at very good speeds (225kmh / 140mph) and the cost savings would make it much easier for Amtrak to roll it out on multiple new city pairs. Faster trains, quicker loading/unloading, reduced fuel consumption, reduced track wear.

[@ivanoffw]

I happened to attend the showing of the then new Talgo 8 at Portland Union Station, and the first thing I noticed was that the seats were harder than the seats of the series 6. The food on the Cascades was usually pretty good, better than the cafe car on the long distance trains.

[@RailfanTurner]

Terrific catches! Terrific trip you had on the Amtrak Cascades!

[@cristianortega6498]

I loved this video! Congratulations

[@roy_hks]

As a dutchie the American approach to trains is amazing to see. You guys seem to treat them more like airplanes than like trains as far as what I’m used to. Over here you just hop in and out, you don’t check in baggage or even speak to anyone. Just scan your PT card and catch the train. Very interesting, and very cool. Altho I doubt ridership will increase soon if this system isn’t changed.

[@MrMorganEnjoyer]

We have it like that for a reason of security, I wish it was more relaxed but it is what it is

[@jamesrobinson9194]

Great video. That was a massive freight train around 15 minutes in... must have had 150 to 200 containers.

[@ronclark9724]

Many of which are double stacked, something not seen in Europe...

[@earnestfreeman7152]

The Talgo is shared by Oregon and Washington, the route runs from Eugene, Oregon and runs all the way to Seattle, possibly even all the way to Vancouver .B.C. I have rode the train several times and it is very good!

[@lionelmpc]

I use the Cascades service several times a year to go to either Seattle or Portland. I rode the old Series 6 sets from the mid-2000s on when they were still fairly new. I really preferred the original cloth seats they had in both business and coach. The leather/vinyl seats were put during a refurbishment several years ago. I have seen several comments on different videos about the rough riding. They weren't always like that but maintenance was really cut back after the derailment as they knew they were going to be getting rid of them. They really deteriorated badly in the last few years. The last time I was on a Series 6 set was this past February, and they were really tired. Rough riding and the interior/seats were in terrible shape. The Series 8 trains are nice. A Horizon train set is supplementing the two Talgo sets and I definitely would rather be on a Talgo! The trestle/bridge over the Cowlitz River just north of Kelso is the old Weyerhaeuser Woods Railroad (a private logging railroad). It was used to haul logs from the Mount St Helens area down the the mills in Longview. Log hauling ended years ago but it still hosted regular freight trains to a landfill until a few years ago. As far as I know the line is currently up for abandonment. Where it crosses the highway there was a large sign on the bridge "DANGER - WATCH FOR FALLING LOGS" or something like that! Also, while on paper the train trip from Portland to Seattle (or the reverse) is noticeably longer than driving, in actual practice that is often not the case. Traffic in the Seattle/Tacoma area and Portland is often terrible!

[@ArdisTravel]

It's Grand Central Terminal in New York. Grand Central Station was the previous building and subway station underneath (officially Grand Central-42nd St Station)

[@chuckhere]

Well done, heading there next month.

[@chriswalker1993]

They went back to the longer route which was no more safe than the new bypass (had Amtrak done proper certifications on the route). The NTSB also released a preposterous notice against the Talgo cars expediting their needless retirement. It's a real shame!

[@ageoflove1980]

Then again, a 30 mph curve in an intercity rail connection is far from ideal unless you are dealing with some serious mountains or need to pull into the station. Seems like that bypass wasnt exactly perfect.

[@JamesTerrebonne0194]

Due to the pandemic, Amtrak is limiting people's movements inside terminals and on platforms to reduce potential spread of the virus. Not to mention Amtrak doesn't allow passengers on the platform until a certain time prior to boarding as a security thing. It's not Amtrak being overzealous but due to the pandemic.

[@Friek555]

Considering how empty the station is in the video, that doesn't make any sense. Also, the virus spreads more easily in closed spaces. So why would you restrict access to the platforms and force passengers to stay inside instead?

[@colliecandle]

There is no bloody 'pandemic' ! SCAMdemic more like ! Wake up you people.

[@JamesTerrebonne0194]

@@colliecandle weirdest hill to die on.

[@physetermacrocephalus9986]

@@colliecandle this is why no one takes Americans seriously.

[@stuartadamsrailfanningvideos]

@@colliecandle There is a global deadly pandemic afoot! I've lost 7 people close to me (3 because of the pandemic) in the last 18.5 months. My girlfriend is a frontline essential worker, a school teacher. Please take it seriously. I've been grieving constantly. I would appreciate it. Thank you.

[@namesandpiper]

Fun fact, talgo in spanish stands for Articulated Light Train "Goicochea Oriol" whom is the guy that invented the system i guess

[@jesusm.pereztriana9319]

Two guys indeed: Alejandro Goicoechea and José Luis de Oriol y Urigüen (Marquis of Casa Oriol). The first one was an engineer. The second one the businessman who funded the project.

[@carlosmelendo4386]

He first invented it, the second financed it

[@girlgirl4548]

The 2+1 layout is as offered by RENFE in Spain as their "Clase Preferente", First Class. The Talgo gives a very smooth ride.

[@SantiagoMartinez-wx6xh]

Very nice. When I was a boy, I traveled many times in the Talgo Madrid- Seville.

[@bwalle]

You forgot to show the classic beauty of the Portland Union Station. The last time I took the Talgo to Seattle the station there was covered in ugly 1970s coverings of ugly metal and was really a disgusting station and they were just starting to plan the refurbishing. You make me want to take a trip to Seattle now to see the restored station! I took my wife and kids on the opening of the Talgo in the 1990s and was impressed when our sodas were in glasses parallel to the ground as we turned corners - what a sensory experience! You are right about the train versus cars. I used to take my son to the baseball games in Seattle from my home near Portland. I really enjoy your videos and this reminds me of all the fun trains you showed in Spain where I learned a lot from you. Keep up the good works!

[@SimplyRailway]

Check out the Coast Starlight video.

[@jgodfrey546]

My last Talgo ride was at the turn of the century.... can't remember what the interior was like. King St was under renovation, though. Thanks for the pre-boarding tour... :-)

[@IntaminFanboy]

To answer your question about seat comfort on series VI versus series 8, I hear better things about VI than 8. I ride a few times a year and haven't paid very close attention to the differences in comfort between the two, but I suppose the leather and padding on the VIs is more like that of a taxi cab while the 8s feel more like a typical train. The business class seats on the VIs were a lot bigger, too.

[@timlilijinsheng4070]

5:01 are the horizontal arms connecting the carriages and the little vertical thing the tilting machanism?

[@B4T4LI4]

Yes. They are part of the pistons that retract and contract in curves to push and pull the carriages into their tilt position. Basically it does the same thing as your hands on the handlebars of a bicycle.

[@stephanweinberger]

@@B4T4LI4 Actually no, those pistons are anti-rolling devices plus they serve to turn the wheelset into curves. Talgos have a passive tilting system: The Talgo wheelsets have no axle; the wheels are mounted seperately in an U shaped frame. The carriages are actually suspended at the top on air bellows, which allows them to tilt passively with centrifugal force. web.talgoamerica.com/images/Techadv/large/Three_Point_Suspension-large.jpg web.talgoamerica.com/images/Techadv/large/21_O-large.jpg from: web.talgoamerica.com/overview

[@amtrakatl]

Amtrak just announced the replacement plan for all Talgo cars. The will be replaced by Siemens built bi mode train sets. This means by the end of the decade, there will be no more Talgo train sets in America.

[@The0ldboy]

1 year later, the GERMANS sign with Talgo to replace their trains...why do you buy things that they don't even want in their own country? crazy Americans LOL

[@Spacek531]

Nice review! Its nice to see how the Cascades compares to Spanish trains.

[@icezebra77]

At the 11:00 mark, there are two bridges spanning the Tacoma Narrows. The span on the right is the older of the two bridges and is the replacement for the famous "Galloping Gertie" bridge that collapsed in a windstorm in 1940. Most folks have seen video of it over the years but for those who haven't, here's a newsreel clip of it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaSufHeCgL6mjLc

[@albe6253]

Due to the low platforms, it's funny to see that the Talgo slogan (you not climb to a Talgo, you enter a Talgo) isn't fullfilled in the United States (in Spain the Talgo's doors enraises with the platform level)

[@joeykidd8916]

or, if these ever operated in the northeast, "you do not enter a Talgo, you trip and fall into a Talgo" 💀

[@GalenlevyPhoto]

The king street station is beautiful! Much better than what I’ve seen last time years ago was awful looking. Tiago trainset looks interesting. I believe it can top 110 mph if they upgraded tracks and signaling etc. I hope someday they upgrade to high speed rail in near future

[@amaliahightower]

Wow I really enjoyed this video! Great view and a nice train. Next time I go to Portland I’m gonna take this train and go shopping tax free.

[@bluebear6570]

I rode the Amtrak "Coastal Starlight" train from Seattle to Los Angeles in 1974. I remember King Street station as a rather dark, run-down and uninviting place. Looks nice today! The Talgo´s are ceretainly not what you expect from modern rail travel! I have never understood why Amtrak and otrher railroads in the US opted for this outdated technolgy!

[@GrantMcWilliams]

I like your videos. 02:24 A correction though that's common - Grand Central Station is actually Grand Central Terminal. No trains go through it so it's a terminus. Penn Street Station is a station. 02:35 King Street station was built by the Great Northern Railway and Northern Pacific Railway both owned by James A. Hill. Union station was built 5 years later for the Union Pacific Railway and Milwaukee Road Railway direct competitors to the former group. They are NOT the same station. Any train fan should go to both as their designs are polar opposites. The Union station is now run by Sound Transit for the Link Light rail. It has been restored and has bathrooms and a couple of businesses (when it's open). The tracks used to come into the south end of it one floor below like King Street but that has all been filled in and is covered by modern buildings. The streets in that part of town are elevated one floor above the earth where the trains reside. The Sounder Commuter train platform is right between Union Station and King Street station. In addition the First Hill street car travels in front of the stations, the old Waterfront Streetcar used to end there. If you go to Amtrak via either Sounder or Link you need to climb up to the surface, walk one block and then go back down. It would be nice to have a subterranean tunnel. All of these connections that get near to each other but don't actually connect make things complex for transfers making directions "interesting". The clock tower is an almost exact duplicate of the Campanile in Venice. It's shocking how close they are. 15:32 I talked to an Amtrak person and they said the Talgo equipment is nice but it's expensive to run even at low speeds. Every Talgo train has to have a Talgo serviceperson riding along all the time. You'll see him/her in the lounge car just waiting in case anything happens. I'm sure in addition to the cost of the equipment having an extra paid person just sitting there adds to it. I also asked why they never played movies on the overhead screens and he said it added $3 to every ticket for licensing. Adding 10% to the ticket price for movies only a few will even look at is probably not worth it. They just leave the map up now. I always thought considering the artsy fartsy people in the PNW they could find something to put on there like episodes of Portlandia or even just tourist videos. Also, the cafe car was closed when you was on it but every time I rode the Cascades I'd lobby the attendants for Ivar's Clam Chowder in the morning. They only sell it in the afternoon but it would be fantastic in those cold drizzly PNW mornings. I've always thought the Cascades should be the local train with all local food, beers etc on it since Oregon, Washington and British Columbia pay for it. Still, an enjoyable train and easy to get around, I used to ride it twice a week.

[@yixnorb5971]

I remember storage lockers in Chicago stations for a quarter. I think they were discontinued because they could be used as drug drops.

[@himbourbanist]

wow, this is a great service connecting two large cities in the PNW. Someday in the future I could totally see this be upgraded to a high speed corridor with service on the BC

[@fredericrmerchant1355]

You missed the Ivar’s Clam Chowder and Snowqualmie Rolled Oats, great local fare at a reason price for train food.

[@OliverHarrington]

Hello! May I suggest that if you ever find yourself in Texas again, you should come to Austin (the capital) and ride our MetroRail commuter rail service. We have some very nice Stadler GTWs, and it's a lot like the TEXRail service that you've done a video on. The trip along the full line is 32 miles and takes about an hour, so it's not too long. I know you like European trains, so we have some perfect Stadlers for you! :)

[@xiii-Dex]

Trams in a few years, too.

[@OliversElevators]

@xiii-Dex hopefully, if Project Connect passes. We desperately need it!

[@xiii-Dex]

@@OliversElevators More cities need trams. Smaller cities too, rail shouldn't just be a big city thing! Here in Maine, the entire southern and central part of the state was once connected by tram, even when the cities were only 10k people or less. Then the oil companies decided there should be buses instead.

[@OliversElevators]

@xiii-Dex that’s exactly what happened here. We are a city of 2 million, but this being Texas, cars are the most prominent mode of travel and our politicians are lobbied by all the oil and gas companies here to favor cars. We used to have a whole streetcar system, but that closed in favor of buses. Now we have terrible traffic, one commuter rail line, and a bus system fit for a city of 500,000. We need to do something about it, but it seems like many people here don’t want this because it will raise their annual taxes by $400 and people are incapable of thinking about others. We’ll see what happens.

[@nc3826]

You mean trolley? (Must be that soda vs pop thing...). When I hear the word tram it's just associate with the elevated versions. FWIW oil companies did buy and kill off a few trolley lines but most died from lack of ridership after the the auto became ubiquitous but blank conspiracy theories are more fun. When the real blame is suburban sprawl that makes auto ownership a necessity, in mosts cases. So mass transit becomes just a tax burden used by the very poor. Its easy and fun to blame other ppl but whats needed is options that most ppl can agree make sense. Such as a HOV (carpool) lane that EV bus would use too for example???? Or just keep blaming other ppl?

[@rogerknights857]

Here’s an idea: Employ windows that can display messages describing the view outside. They would attract passengers and needn’t be very expensive. Kids would like them.

[@OntarioTrafficMan]

Or just have screens in the back of the seat in front, and make those descriptions one of the options

[@flashrocket9158]

These cars were initially ordered for a Wisconsin Hiawatha extension, but the project was cancelled then, so now they are sitting in Talgo's maintenance facility in Madison, WI. though recently they were ordered by WSDOT since one of the Series 6 cars were destroyed, and Amtrak has announced they are replacing the Series 6 cars with the new Siemens Venture cars.

[@rohanzhairerenzjomz2445]

In 6y ago, The first train: Amtrak Cascades is derailed in the dupont bridge. It is the first maiden run route from Seattle to Portland.

[@lucasaccount573]

Fun fact about the Great Northen and the Northern Pacific. They, along with the CB&Q were all owned by JJ Hill. After his death, they merged to form the Burlington Northern Railway

[@heinzbreuer2674]

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[@csxswarm4926]

if your in Portland you should go see 4449 (The Daylight) at the Portland railroad museum, since one of your stickers is designed after its logo

[@aycc-nbh7289]

But would the Hiawatha need the Talgo rolling stock if it serves commuters more than tourists?

[@Zergcerebrates]

Do they have plans to replace these relics?

[@chicagonorthwesternrailfan5043]

Please review the California Zephyr

[@shahzadafridi686]

Super video collection bro Great video

[@DanielDavis1973]

8:15 that's not actually a Boeing factory. It's an airport (usually called Boeing field although it's not the official name) that is where Boeing delivers all of the 737s to customers and finishes and delivers KC-46 tankers to the USAF. The aircraft are built in Renton (737) and Everett (Tankers). It's also home to Boeing's flight test program for commercial aircraft. I also prefer the trip North from Seattle to Vancouver, BC. It actually follows the edge of Puget Sound for a good bit between Seattle and Everett.

[@astrofabio68]

Spanish trains are excellent, maybe they could put wider seats. This "pandemia" is destroying every good things.....

[@Rubycon99]

But hey, it's all worth it so that no one will ever cough again!🤪

[@cstaats]

There is a museum on the third floor of the King street station one of the hidden gems of Seattle

[@michaelrobitaille2335]

In regards to station being locked from the inside & verification of ticket, there's been a large abundance of transient/homeless in/around the area.

[@CRtrain]

King Street station reminds me a bit of Hoboken Terminal. Similar structure.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

12:07 Although the loss of life was slight this was one of Amtraks worst days. It was the inaugural run of a new line & there was diaster. Similar to the titanic.

[@aerotechify]

So that's not actually the Boeing factory; those are in Renton (737) and Everett (767, 777). This is the narrowbody delivery center, and is used as a base for testing.

[@raphaelschuller8288]

Great as always 👍🏻👍🏻

[@brownthunder999]

the King Street station actually isn't made up of union and King St, Union station is across the tracks and is used as the regional transit board (sound transit) main offices

[@rajappanpk9569]

The return trip glad today's we are at Seattle Washington state, king street station for for a long awaited trip report. That is the Amtrak cascade train to Portland, Oregon.

[@walterfink9782]

When taking any form of transportation, where your going to be sitting for an extended period of time, seats need to be very comfortable. These look like torture seats. Nothing I would consider, when a trip like this one, is so nice.

[@Cartoonman154]

Looks like it has the front of a UPS truck

[@jtkm]

I will say that the Hiawatha route would not have benefited from the Talgo coaches. It is relatively flat and straight, so the tilting technology would be a waste of money. The Hiawatha needs new equipment in general, but I think Wisconsin chose the wrong equipment, but it is a shame how politics literally ruin everything in the states. Government projects in America don't aim to help the people, its just a form of buying votes which is seriously so sad.

[@timnewman1172]

I'm afraid far too many American politicians are extremely short-sighted...

[@doncarlton4858]

And the government projects are rife with corruption waste, cost overruns and kickbacks. Corners are cut that lead to premature failures and major safety concerns.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

@@timnewman1172 All they care about is power & getting reelected.

[@railroad9000]

Politics ruins everything!

[@truebras]

Thanks for this video. I agree most of your opinions. I've done that stretch via Amtrak Coast Starlight and back in Talgo 6 consist. There are big differences. Riding on Superliner car is way more comfortable and I really like the old style diner experience at Starlight compared to more modern "European" like service at Café Bistro. I do agree about the seats that are a bit thin padded, width on them is fine for me. I think what was more noticeable for me is the noise insulation inside the car and somehow the slightly harshness of ride. I felt that the Talgo 6 cars don't ride as nice as those of TGV or ICE. But I also understand that the Amtrak Cascades consists are not riding on passenger only dedicated train tracks.

[@amapparatistkwabena]

Dude, you have so many pairs of shoes; I'm on my 4th video of yours today and you've shown your shoes in each one, and they're all different pairs so far. Somebody's gotta do it, so why not me? I'm going to check to see if they're different in every single video!

[@philnaegely]

the boarding protocol is done like that at a lot of stations for reasons you mentioned and others. mainly safety concerns.

[@myp5horn]

I just rode on the Amtrak cascades talgo set. It was very smooth

[@bryfii]

they still have these?

[@greyshadow9498]

YOU would like to see Amtrak use more Euro style trains? Brother I've been riding the same Amfleet trains for my entire life, and the same damn Acela for 20 years! 😉 I would kill to have some of the trains I see you and Dylan ride every week. We ARE getting a nice set of Alston "Avelia Liberty" trains to replace the Acela trains which will definitely bring us in line with our Euro friends. While I won't miss the Acela, it's a shame to scrap them when most of the Northeast Corridor will still be tooling around in 1970's/1980's stock.

[@banksrail]

Amtrak won’t scrap them personally. Amtrak only owns 1 of the 20 sets. So when they send them back to Bombardier we’ll see what they do with them.

[@greyshadow9498]

I'm sure the engines are getting tired, but Amtrak has engines older and harder working. The problem is the cars being a set. I've seen the whole train get pulled by P42's (power cars and all), but I imagine the passenger cars won't hook properly to those or the Sprinters. But that's 120 cars that should be perfectly serviceable with refurbishment if they can mate them properly. I never really cared for the Business cars, but they are still better than an Amfleet I

[@ToddKeck98]

6:57 At least some of the locals and a handful of railfans aren't fans of the design either. I just call it funny.

[@R3C0NPr0X]

The Amtrak Cascades also have an EMD F40 that is already retired from Amtrak service because they are too old