AMTRAK E8's, late 1970's... Bonus, AMTRAK FL9's, 1996

Here is a collection of Super 8mm sound movie clips I had taken at various places of AMTRAK E8's and E9's in action between 1976 and 1978. At the end, I added a couple of clips of some rebuilt Amtrak FL9's. Those where taken on VHS in 1996
. Thanks for watching, and hope you enjoyed it.
God Bless
Please do not use without permission
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Captured on Kodak Ektasound Super 8mm Sound film.
FL9 shots, Captured with a Sharp VHS Camcorder
Taken on the NYC Waterlevel Route, and on the Pennsy Middle Division.
Albany/Rensselaer, Peekskill, Breakneck Ridge, Manitou Station, NY,
Cove, Marysville, PA.
God Bless our troops, and God Bless the United States of America
Copyright Jack D Kuiphoff © 8/30/2016
John 3:16
"You are worth a Son to God"
Quote is from our pastor at Journey By Grace Church, Pastor Bill Bailey.
/ @journeybygrace

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Amtrak was gritty and grimy in the 1970s, and I love it even though I was born decades after this.

[@1jackdk]

Early Amtrak was really neat. E units from every railroad you can imagine. Thanks for watching...

[@kyoakland]

loganbaileysfunwithtrains just what I was thinking it's looking pretty grimy and straightforward then

[@venturamichael50]

All Railroads were.Especially trains that ran on the Northeast Corridor.No such thing as clean diesel yet.

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Michael Ventura it was definitely an awesome time to see a lot of power for those who got to see it in person but it was a rough time for the railroads, guess that’s why there was so many mergers happening at this time like, Chessie System, Family Lines, N&W and UP merger talks (which obviously fell through) N&W joining Chessie System Holdings (again obviously didn’t happen) and the Burlington Northern mergers

[@hakeemsd70m]

I would do anything to see an E8 in action, some of my personal favorite six-axles. What a time it must have been to be alive...

[@1jackdk]

Loved those E8's, always on the top of my list as well.

[@onecolossalrubikscube2554]

@@1jackdk are they preserved

[@LegoTrainFan92]

I'm not sure if it was an e8, but the Indiana Transportation Museum rented an E unit a year or two ago up in Logansport/South Bend

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 Several E8s have been preserved. One unique E8 is Union Pacific #942. It is the only UP E8 to be preserved in UP colors. UP 928 doesn’t count since it’s been largely disassembled and is in sad shape. Really isn’t “preserved”.

[@onecolossalrubikscube2554]

@@blackbirdgaming8147 I mean those Amtrak ones

[@mikeggg5671]

Sad to think that AMTRAK was so poor, they couldnt afford wash racks!

[@lorumipsum1129]

@Roger Clayton fuck off with that shit

[@GoldenOne131]

Bruh way to insult Amtrak fuck off man

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

That was what they looked like back then

[@ACLTony]

Yet it's so ironic that Amtrak had more trains, routes, and service frequency back then than it does now.

[@mikeggg5671]

@@ACLTony the private railroads had much more service before amtrak, too

[@devsworld6399]

Man I love these old good day trains

[@BeamMeUpBrian]

This was great. If I could back in time to experience this in person, I would. Just long enough for a quick trip. Then back to the future.

[@Poopsticle_256]

Boy, I would love to see one of those rust buckets in action.

[@1jackdk]

Man! Your not kidding. I'd give anything to see them running again. Thanks for watching...

[@cehayes74]

Give me Amtrak from the 1970's anytime, that was real RRing back then !!!

[@1990sRailfan]

Roger that!

[@Shinyarc]

ce hayes I agree, they actually had some routes that worked! Kansas City had the Lone Star and it worked! Too bad budget cuts crushed that

[@tibbers3755]

Still is today

[@nancyhernandez7833]

I want the old fp9s back they very special to me

[@lorumipsum1129]

But this was one of Thier worst times. Why would you want that back. Yeah they cut routes, but no one treated them with any respect and the tracks where all shit at the time. I much prefer modern amtrak

[@FrehleyFan3988]

This is real heirtege here! I rode the Broadway limited when PRR still operated, and when it was on it's last run, I rode it for the last time.

[@NickelPlateMxne]

So you must be one of the oldies huh

[@robertkerr3059]

you were railfanning before railfanning was cool ! thats like finding an Armadillo in Alaska

[@Rocketman1583]

Those e8s and fl9s look beautiful! Wish I could say the same about the rolling stock tho:P

[@1jackdk]

That's for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@j.j.foster7002]

Great films and I love the old E-units. I wish that they would have run them through the wash rack a little more back then, even in winter. I used to see similar units (except FL-9s} here in ChiTown.

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

amtraks respose,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "whats a wash rack"?

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

I remember back in the late 1970s(ca.1979)at stockyards(cincy.ohio) there was a WM SD40 dirty and faded . then they put it in the wash rack and brought it out. wow! for about 5 minutes when the engine was totally wet, the thing looked like it did when it was brand new, the paint was awesome! then the water evaporated, slowly,,,,,,, when dry, it didnt look much better, but those 5 minutes, I snapped several photos. It was a red/black SD40.

[@mrstepstool]

Shame on Amtrak for running them dirty like that !

[@engineersdash]

mrstepstool They ran better that way.

[@mrstepstool]

:-D .

[@blackbirdgaming8147]

If I could go back in time to see E units I definitely would! Great video.

[@davidbrown4823]

Early Amtrak was something one could model so easily.

[@gustman9048]

I had family that worked for NYC then work for penn central and then Amtrak during that time and now work for the MTA on the Hudson line.

[@Eric-sn4qz]

I remember seeing these trains as a kid back in the 70’s. The Hudson line. What a cool sight. Nice flashback vid.

[@SpottingWithSam]

Thank you for uploading this! It’s so great to see older videos from days which have long since passed, always been a fan of Amtrak despite living in New Zealand, so this is quite a treat.

[@vectronaut3633]

Thank you very much for uploading this! I especially like the consist at 6:46

[@1jackdk]

That was the westbound Broadway Limited. Thanks for watching...

[@marksprunger8936]

Agreed! Absolutely love the gracefullness of those classic E8's. When I think of railroading in the U.S, E8's always pop up in my imagination!

[@LeeDfined]

For me its the SD40

[@zuma2679]

Thank you for the great film!!

[@scottporter4544]

Old Amtrak is my favorite!! Thank you for the video!!

[@tommythomason6187]

The Penn Central paint scheme looked good on those E8s. Amtrak put all the Es through a reconditioning program when they took over, but they're looking pretty worn, at this juncture. Read in Trains Magazine, long back, that Amtrak approached EMD about building more of the E units, but the carbody blueprint had been thrown away, which made costs for such a locomotive - an E10, so to speak - prohibitive.

[@chicagolandrailroader]

I am a huge fan of early Amtrak and this video is super helpful for painting and modifying models of these engines. Thanks!

[@gmp3699]

Excellent video. The E's were the backbone of every railroad coast to coast. Miss seeing them in service. Thanks for the memories and for sharing this footage.

[@tibbers3755]

I like sdp40f. They're a favorite of mine. I bought an ho scale model several years ago and i think I might still have it

[@1990sRailfan]

Oh, so classic! Get's the adrenaline flowing.

[@Brickify307]

The Classic e8 are My favorite Classic Locomotives on Amtrak even though they look dirty and old idc and they do go well with the train consist

[@donconklin1770]

Love this Jack! God really does bless people that's for sure. What nice scenery, all gone now. I have a Santa Fe F8ABA set also.... -Don

[@bluedoris88]

I’m moddeling Amtrak early stuff ,this is very useful,thanks,Geoff,UK.

[@tijuanagringo]

. Thank you so much for this vision of days so recently gone by. :-) .

[@1jackdk]

You bet Danial. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@adventuresofamtrakcascades301]

Im amazed that Amtrak was able to nearly completely transform from a rusted company that people would forget even existed, 50 years later to a bright brand new era of passenger railroading, especially with the upcoming complete fleet modernization. But thats my opinion. The 1970s era looks neat though

[@vientheimpostorandtrainfan8508]

Ahh, if I could go back in time so I could see those oldies.

[@thenewpatticakes4214]

You wont believe how many Tyco Ho scale train sets I have that look exactly like those. Great catches, Jack!

[@Southern_Pacific]

loved all that old Amtrak film Jack, also subscribed to your channel. Regards from one old trucker to another. Dave

[@aplinewalker]

Great old footage ,,,, many thanks ,,,

[@negevsareforpros9250]

I love how you remastered your old footage, it looks so much better!

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. I just bought some transfer software for redoing my VHS stuff. Big difference. Thanks for watching...

[@diceo8995]

the good times when amtrak was classic and old school.

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

Great video man I like the hard work look of these older engines kinda a shame their style is gone but God bless

[@xri0tt]

I love these kinds of videos, they’re extremely fascinating to watch.

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@stevenjohnson7086]

Ha, that's great! Thanks for sharing those movies. I grew up in California and it's always neat to see the East Coast railroading. Thank you for spending the money on an 8mm movie camera that you could capture sound with :)

[@wallochdm1]

Great video. Love those E's and F's.

[@1jackdk]

Other than the PA's, I loved the E's and F's. Thanks for watching...

[@TrainsNStuff]

Awesome stuff you got there!!! Subbed!

[@Balerio2357]

More great vintage motive power. I really liked SPS45'S at the beginning of the video. Thanks again Jack for posting! - Balerio

[@jmream2618]

Balerio 2357 that's a sdp40f

[@Balerio2357]

Jmream2 Jmream , Oops thanks lol!

[@BumberenzoManilupinoCity]

Wow, those trains must’ve been really special!

[@glendenig9962]

Great video! Thanks! Reminds me of living near Chicago in the mid seventies.

[@1jackdk]

Glad you enjoyed it Glen, and thanks for watching...

[@SDRP_4406]

Great footage!

[@acuto4245]

0:54 there's a abandoned Amtrak train in my town that looks like that! It's sad to see that trains like these start to rot

[@chicagolandrailroader]

That sucks. Those old engines are worth a lot and hopefully someone gets to preserve it before the scrappers get ahold of it

[@MrPictovid]

Thanks again for posting another great video. watching your video is like being able to go back in time. I find modern railroading boring compared to the early years of amtrak and conrail.

[@1jackdk]

Thanks MrP. It would be so neat if we can actually go back. Holy cow, and with the camera equipment we have today. Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it.

[@cpufreak101]

Just imagine if you had one of the early HD cameras from the late 80's/early 90's. look up 1993 in HD. It's so obviously 1993, but the quality makes it look like it was filmed yesterday

[@rottenroads1982]

For people who Don’t know, here is how to tell the difference between an EMD E unit, and an EMD F unit: First, look at the Number board. If the number board is squashed into the nose of the locomotive and has more rounded ends, then it’s an E unit. If the Number Boards are sticking out and have a more rectangular shape, then it’s an F unit. Second, look at the Number of wheels per Bogie and locomotive wheel arrangement. If it has a C-C (Co-Co) wheel arrangement, meaning 3 powers axels (6 powered wheels) per Bogie, and 6 powered axels (12 powered wheels) in total, then it’s an E unit, but if it’s a B-B (Bo-Bo) wheel arrangement, with only 2 Powerd Axels (4 powered wheels) per bogie, and 4 powered axels (8 powered wheels) in total, then it’s an F unit. Third, and Finally, look at the length of the locomotive. If it’s longer, it’s an E unit, if it’s shorter, it’s an F unit. PS, Don’t try to deduce E or F units by number of Nose lights, cause it can vary between one and two for both E and F units. And that, my friends, is how you Identify the difference between an E or F unit. And if you Already know this, then You’re welcome anyways.

[@slorznovitch]

Excellent!

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching...

[@MrJuvefrank]

There sure were a lot of beautiful trains in New Yuck.

[@marktufts7756]

awesome video

[@nancyhernandez7833]

7:49 omg beautiful horn

[@thomasgrosse3406]

Rusty Shackleford yes.

[@UTTPRamranch]

Beautiful

[@megansinclair2416]

Well done! It is fun watching the old Amtrak hand-me-downs. Som eof those units look as if they were held together with duct tape and spit.

[@1jackdk]

Your not kidding Megan. Those things where old when Amtrak got them. I sure do miss those old things though. Really sharp looking locomotives. Thanks for watching...

[@basictransportenthusiast4386]

Fantastic horn on that FL9

[@mikeytrains1]

I wish I could see the 'Rail Breakers' in their heyday.. Loved the video!

[@1jackdk]

Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@mikeytrains1]

jackmp294.5™ Any time! I love your videos.

[@Jhihmoac]

I remember seeing some of the old, rebadged locomotives they would purchase (or even lease) from the big railroads when I was a kid... Amtrak was just starting out then, and they still didn't have many of their own customized power units at that time...

[@dwells77]

What a great video!

[@1jackdk]

Glad you enjoyed it dwells. Sure miss those days. Thanks for watching...

[@jamesyourse6611]

Southern Railroad E8s in the snow bringing a 17 car Crescent south loaded with college students returning from Christmas break with a pint of jack daniels. I will never forget.

[@masteristscalerailroadmodels]

Nice footage: lots of jointed track still around.

[@1jackdk]

That was the era they were just putting in welded rail. Sure miss the sound of jointed rail. Thanks for watching...

[@_PTS__1]

7:45 Its weird hearing an FL9, a 50s locomotive, with Nathan K5LA horns (that’s what I think it has).

[@mccoy79productions66]

Nice!

[@burby_geek]

Anyone notice the SDP40F

[@Rocketman1583]

Ya

[@Rocketman1583]

To be honest i kinda like that engine

[@TheDiamondFish]

Yeah I saw it

[@floridianrailauto9032]

It's not like the camera is literally focusing on it or anything

[@rottenroads1982]

The Fact that their was an EMD F unit pulling Passenger Trains in the 1990’s proves that Any locomotive, despite their age, could be used.

[@barroningram7286]

at 6:42 that had to be the broadway with latch up, i remember the crescent when it was powered with E8s it was a long train like that

[@divox9pqr]

Starting off with the Lakeshore Ltd looking very gritty and grimy. It’s cleaned up and improved quite a bit since then. Guess those Siemens Challengers weren’t on the design board back then.

[@UCH-zp4up]

It’s so grimy... I love it..

[@ianhudson9398]

1996? Must have been asleep when I was there cos I missed all the Es.....

[@1jackdk]

Oh man! That's not good Ian. Gotta love those E units. Thanks for watching...

[@muhammadfadhiil3430]

R.I.P Old Amtrak Era 1970 1990

[@1jackdk]

Wish we could go back to see this one more time.

[@janetlim2743]

Hey at least we have the p42's

[@kevinhoward9593]

I read somewhere Albany Station was the last thing Penn Central could afford to do on its own.

[@stevensolway1054]

NATIONAL RAILROAD MUSEUM in Green Bay Wisconsin formerly had E9A MILWAUKEE ROAD 38A donated in April 1987 that needed restoration but the Chief Director was Suddenly Fired in Sept. 1989. Yet several other managers come and go. But in 2008 the other new manager SCRAPPED 38A-E-9-A-M for onl a few dollars 💸 bye!!! He was fired 🔥 ; but sadly he sold out 7 diesels like the 2(two) unique 1949 E.M.D. BL-2's that arrived in 2001 from the WSORR Shortline; and the 2 BL2S were a perfect matching for the 1956 EMD AEROTRAIN 2 CLASS LWT12!!! BUT: the two BL2S were sold to NEW YORK and fully rebuilt for both freight and excursions, and repainted Blue, and many videos 📹 on KZbin!! But The New York shortline rr went Bancrupt!!! But the 2/BL2S were re-sold to Ohio and still running in 2023 excursions.

[@fleetwin1]

cool!

[@RJARRRPCGP]

Looks like a forsythia blooming at 7:54 (yellow flowers and a yellow bush) They usually bloom in April...

[@sammarachino5427]

hi, Jack. I live in Juniata county and have been thru Cove and Marysville. boy, I would have loved to have seen Enola yards in full swing.. I am a TCA member. if u live close snuff, we could connect

[@burby_geek]

sammorxman

[@sergefeuze9249]

And those e units are so cool I want to see them and those are better than Amtrak's sdp40fs😇😇😇😇😇

[@easternontariorailfan8132]

Great video Jack! Are some of these Rail lines still around?

[@1jackdk]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Yes. Those all these rail lines are still in heavy service. Thanks for watching...

[@soyounoat]

4:51 Big Burly Horn.

[@seawalkers4246]

Also nice to see a SDP40f

[@hohobbyist1098]

Proof that Amtrak wasn't always terrible.

[@oriontheraptor8119]

Are there any o scale models of these types of Amtrak locos and cars ? I’m looking for the e unit ones I love this paint and look

[@1jackdk]

I believe AHM, and P2K both made the E8's in Amtrak paint. Thanks for watching...

[@CM-wt3vn]

why cant i find any video of a SCL e8 with family lines paint? ive seen pics but no video

[@sal3060]

Cheeze No such thing. You saw one of the two ex Clinchfield F units that got FL paint. SCL went into Amtrak in 1971, several years before FL paint made its first appearance.

[@RailPreserver2K]

Also at 7:59 was that amtraks last working fl9 because it looked freshly painted when it passed was it like on its last run or something because I know some railroads usually they try to spruce up the engine cosmetically when it's on its last run

[@ralphmccormick7815]

I just love trains

[@1jackdk]

For sure Ralph! and older stuff, whats not to love! RIGHT! Thanks for watching...

[@tomtodd7744]

What exactly did you mean by the text you put in on 5:17 ? Also, nice catch on that SDP40F at the beginning. Do you have any other videos showing those?

[@1jackdk]

I was talking about where I parked my truck. Right be hind me. When I turned around to follow the train past, there was my truck, and I was trying to shoot over the roof. I have other videos on E units scattered in my collection. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJOsdGl_ppeqeJKcttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKCXnJp7pa2Ag5qcttps://kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2PNZ6WgltuNhbc

[@onecolossalrubikscube2554]

@@1jackdk are the amtrak F units preserved

[@1jackdk]

@@onecolossalrubikscube2554 Not sure. If there are any, probably went back to the original railroads paint scheme...

[@herbertrodriquez6456]

Walthers has the best replicas of those Amtrak passenger cars as well as phase I E8's and Fp-7's. Rapido has the best replicas of Fl 9's,

[@trevorsmith8466]

The rainbow era and phase I are my favs

[@jeffreymcfadden9403]

trains 30-31, "national limited" transitioned to SDP40-Fs in the 1970s. Then PC/CR got a burr up the @SS regarding the dash(-2)trucks, which SDP40-Fs ran on. so, amtrak went back to E8-9s almost till the end when some F40-PHs showed up. remember, CR ordered SD40-2s with the older SD40 truck assemblies.

[@coasternamegenerator5611]

6:20 what a bad s5t

[@SamZarifYT]

Big Boy Pasta I mean most of them, if not all 5 chime leslies sound horrific

[@robk1310]

It’s a shame those beautiful locos were allowed to get so filthy. I wish they kept them cleaner.

[@daveconnell5434]

Well done! Who did the Super-8 to digital transfer for you?

[@1jackdk]

Charles Smiley transfered all my 8mm to digital in return for use of some of my matterial. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...

[@bentheidioticnerd8993]

Did these locomotives have Leslie S5As while on Amtrak?

[@bobbybrisk643]

Anymore footage of the lakeshore 1978-79?

[@christopherdibble5872]

The engineers don't wave from trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954.

[@actioncom2748]

@AmtrakGuy365 - I have a question. Where did streamliners like the ones at 1:05 fit in? Where those legitimate engines for people? And what did Amtrak do with them?

[@AVeryRandomPerson]

Wrong channel.

[@actioncom2748]

@@AVeryRandomPerson Where could I find that information?

[@abbyc6306]

what type of locomotive was that first one at 0:27 ? i have that exact one in ho scale and I'm just wondering :)

[@1jackdk]

That is an EMD SDP40F. I had one as well, and it may be the same number. Thanks for watching...

[@abbyc6306]

ah thank you! and of course, these videos are so cool

[@grandson_0623]

I feel like the 70s clips look better than the 90s ones for some reason.

[@TheTrainExpert]

What was Penn Central doing with Amtrak?

[@jad_n4454]

Before amtrak got their own coaches and lockmotives, they mixed equipment from the railroads they absorbed. That's why you see Penn central equipment.

[@joshteshek1155]

The one thing that triggers me is that they have all the coaches but there’s no observation car!

[@NortheastCorridorFilms]

Can I pleass use this for a video?!

[@sergefeuze9249]

Did I just see pen central e units🤨

[@tractorsmachinesro1405]

Epic Video ...Big like & subscribe from Romania....Thumbs up my friend