Amtrak P098 switches and rotates power at Sanford on 6-13-11.

Amtrak P098 was originally to just stop and drop off the 516 at Sanford for servicing but with the way the railroad run's plans changed as the orif=ginal lead engine P42DC #49's Air duct in the cab failed and left the crew with no AC. So...while swapping out the 516 they rotated the power to have P42DC #46 lead and then the train was on it's way north again.
Train
Amtrak P098
Engines:
Amtrak P42DC #49
Amtrak P42DC #46 - will lead after the power swap.
Amtrak B32-8W #516
Taken on 6-13-11 on Joe Robinson.

[@tbone3972]

I was NOT happy when you didn’t capture the coupling of the locomotives because those are the BEST part.

[@afreehlc]

Im AM happy he didnt get in trouble for trespassing tho, because that would be the worst part. 🙂

[@cobras84robinjd]

@kenjr29mfl Thanks Ken, the AC in the lead unit was bad so they swapped it out. Bet the passengers weren't happy with no power and AC themselves for 40 minutes.

[@railfanbryan7225]

Awesome switching footage! I actually saw AMTK P42 46 here in Bakersfield CA on the Amtrak San Joaquins a few months ago (i think it was on train 719 or 703 i forget which one exactly)

[@AJuarez764]

Engine switching you hardly seen for Amtrak. Nice! love it!

[@papageoffsamerica]

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[@rufec12]

Great video, Joe! Cool to see them switch out the engines!

[@irelandbloke]

Awesome trains !

[@ralphmiller2967]

Great action.Great videos.

[@cobras84robinjd]

@rufec12 Thank you Rudy, it just worked out perfectly for me to be there and see the whole thing.

[@cobras84robinjd]

@CSXRP Thank you very much!

[@christosp7564]

Greetings from me, train driver Germany

[@cobras84robinjd]

@Train538 Sanford is where the servicing gets done for miami's B32-8W #516 the employee's told me.

[@workinghardusa]

Cool, well done!

[@mrfingerlakes8735]

Awesome video

[@lokomotivum]

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[@railfanbryan7225]

I just saw AMTK 46 (P42) in Bakersfield CA the other day on the Amtrak San Joaquins!

[@robertbowman3406]

One more thing here. If that is a motorized switch, railroaders call it a gate, then one must know how to get it to work correctly. Just a thought here and yes when I worked for the Great Northern way back in 1966 we had to throw them now and then so we could get on another track.

[@Henry5623]

The switch is referred to as a 'turnout' if you use industry lingo when referencing a switch at least here in the US and the turnout in question in this video is a older manually thrown turnout verses newer more modern turnouts which are used for mainline operations. Seeing how the turnout in question in this video was leading to the ladder track in the small staging yard in the background it would be inhibiting to say the least to have to radio dispatch every time a movement requires a turnout to be thrown in a yard operation as such when a manual turnout can be easily thrown and the operation can continue onward. Automated turnouts are usually kept to mainlines and busy rail thoroughfares not often used in industrial or yard operations.

[@kdabaviation5032]

I remember us having to wait for the train to switch engines. When the train was leaving Orlando there was 2 teenagers that were on the side of the tracks mooning us on the train. Ahhh memories.

[@rdgk1se3019]

Perfect time to have had a sling shot.

[@Thomas1980]

great video. I like it

[@kdabaviation5032]

No way, I just realized that that was the exact same train that I took when I was 8. I was on that same train. Man, that brings back lots of memories.

[@II3asyII]

TheNYRailfanner 6275 that's actually pretty cool to hear

[@thavvolf9157]

Sanford gets very hot very fast, road the auto train about 12 times in 2014, sadly the service is declining, management is cutting back cause revenue is down on other lines of amtrack.

[@rdgk1se3019]

I rode Auto-Train in 2017.........A/C didn't work right on the trip down and the trip back.

[@KingSNAFU]

Nice catch.

[@lailasalas]

I suppose B-32 was not requiring major repairs maybe just oiling, watering, refueling and washing

[@jaysmith1408]

lailasalas which should have been done in miami. I know Florence, SC is the Auto Train's service stop, unsure if the Meteor fuels there too, i guess it couldn't wait.

[@sargentrowell81]

@@jaysmith1408 I was on the Meteor in June of 2017 and it was lunch when my family boarded in Orlando so we went to the diner, but the A/C was out in the Dining car so we stopped at the Auto Train facility for about 20 to 30 minutes to see if they could fix it. They couldn't and we ended up having to use the second half of the Cafe car for Diner and Breakfast, so it's not completely unheard of for them to stop there. Another possibility is Amtrak was relocating that B-32 to Sanford to assemble the Auto Racks and work the yard.

[@gravelydon7072]

Sanford does even motor and wheelset changes. Hialeah facility is passenger car repair only since the major building became TriRail's. Fuel and Oil are added in Hialeah as is water if needed. If you look on any of the new Viewliner Baggage cars, you'll see the Hialeah name on it. Hialeah is part of the general Miami area.

[@Jonathanrailfanning123]

you seen the dash 8 nice

[@TheTrainman91]

Great Video Joe!! 2 Thumbs Up!!

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I don't know if I want to make this trip or not, left hand or right hand hello !

[@user-bx7nw1ve6y]

Pretty sure these guys used to work for CalTrans.

[@cobras84robinjd]

@Conrail2576 thank you.

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2018 will be incredible

[@cobras84robinjd]

@TheTrainman91 Thanks!

[@robmoir7524]

THANK YOU I ENJOY THIS VIDEO I WANT TO SEE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN

[@ericrain4692]

Вот это настоящие поезда.

[@CSXRP]

Very nice footage my friend!

[@Triplebuc50]

Why, on some Trains the Sleepers are up front, then others sleepers are in the rear of the train, is there logic to that?

[@robmoir7524]

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[@edwardhammer5427]

It depends a lot on how the region wants them to run. In the SE region, they run them up front. What you may see is a dorm car (for crew) up front & the remaining sleepers on the rear.

[@gravelydon7072]

AutoTrain passenger consist runs NB and does not get broken up in Lorton, VA. SB when it gets to Sanford, the consist gets split as the terminal is not as long. Sanford also serves as the repair point for Auto Train. So if the sleepers are on the headend going North, they will be next to the car carriers going South. The only thing that normally gets turned at Lorton are the locos. And on other trains, it is like Edward says. As the ride is better on the headend, sleepers near the loco is the better place as far as I am concerned but it can depend on where the cars came from before. Just like normally there are only low cars on the Cardinal. But on occasion, the Cardinal will run Superliners.

[@advocateimran4332]

Excellent. I like

[@anthonykelley368]

I'm such a big diesel junkie! Who makes the diesel engines and the entire locomotives for Amtrak?

[@chrisclark5178]

Anthony Kelley GE

[@upstatenewyorkrailfan6775]

Nice video

[@CSXEMDTrainLover]

nice video Joseph of the Amtrak train.

[@carloortiz2165]

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[@telosfd]

Superb video. What is the reason that this process is happening?

[@caryhuff8924]

Can anyone tell me why they need 2 power units to pull 13 cars when I watch train videos from India, and they have 1 power unit pulling 21 cars LOADED with people? Thanks.

[@daniellucas6573]

Actually only one unit is pulling the whole train consist. The other unit provides the head-end power(heating & air conditioning, lighting) to the train. The 3rd unit is deadheading (going along for the ride.

[@user-bx7nw1ve6y]

@@daniellucas6573 They also tend to break down a lot.

[@robertbowman3406]

I have no idea why they put those small cab windows on the front of these diesel units. It makes the cab look so cramped. A bigger window would offer more vision and open up the cab. I guess it was a money thing.

[@Henry5623]

The windows provide adequate forward visibility despite there small size and the cab interiors are significantly bigger then they look. The cabs are designed to meet FRA spec crash requirement specifications so having larger windows would consequently only lead to the crews being more vulnerable in the event of a collision or derailment. Bigger single piece windows have proven prone to cracking as well. This was proven clear back in the late 60's and into the early 70's hence why it's pretty much a industry standard to have more but smaller windows which not only avoid cracking issues but also allow for a more reinforced cab structure for better crew protection.

[@lamontduplessis3552]

Great Video!! I live near Orlando Florida and there is a Sanford not to far from here. Is this Fl or what state is this??

[@zachfila]

Lamont DuPlessis Sanford FL auto train station

[@lamontduplessis3552]

@@zachfila ☺✌Ty so much!!

[@daviddowling9830]

Union rules slowed this swap by about 20 minutes.

[@agentofficerthomasa.porter107]

Thank Goodness For Unions! 100% Always!

[@daviddowling9830]

Agent/Officer Thomas A. Porter D.P.O. Uh huh,yeah right,one dude stands by the switch waiting for another dude to align it while 2 other dudes ride around in golf carts.

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[@LSM_Lover]

Woah cool video

[@kdabaviation5032]

My dad got mad because there was no AC and it was very hot so he told the conductor that we were going to get off the train and walk to the Sanford terminal, but at the same moment the train started to move.

[@Trex1094]

Rarely.

[@mrceleb2006]

Is this in Florida?

[@gravelydon7072]

Yes. Sanford, Florida just North of Orlando.

[@mrceleb2006]

The hometown of Baseball Hall of Famer Tim "Rock" Raines!

[@swet008]

Should have at least given a reason behind the switching engine.

[@jeremywilliams5675]

do they do this often

[@simonenoll7219]

whats the oldest amtraks ?

[@TheTrainman91]

You're Welcome Sir.

[@sargentrowell81]

Why did they switch 46 and 49 around?

[@Henry5623]

As it states in the description P42DC #49 had it's air conditioning fail. So while in the process of setting off P32-8WH # 516 it made logical sense to swap the two P42DC's around so that #46 was in the lead and the crew could consequently have a lead unit with functioning air conditioning.

[@sargentrowell81]

@@Henry5623 Ok. Sorry, I didn't even think about reading the description.

[@kennethmccann6402]

Interesting, and it is not necessary switch or drop off engine with full of boarding passengers and twice delays. If I was a management then I'll terminate (fire) them all for the delays. It's like Japan trains are very strict on schedule what a great managements.

[@patswil1]

well your not, so there

[@Henry5623]

Two points here. The first point being this train was purposely ferrying along P32-8WH #516 specifically with the intentions of setting the unit off at Sanford. The movement was planned into Amtrak's schedule and fully accounted for. Hence why it was easier to ferry the unit along in a revenue train and subsequently set it off at Sanford then it would be to have to have another crew move the unit to Sanford independently. Point number two being read the f*cking description before commenting! It's - literally - two sentences both of which address why the two P42DC's were consequently swapped during the planned drop off of #516. It fully obviously states the the air conditioning in the lead P42DC #49 had failed and while the crew was dropping off #516 it made logical sense to swap the two P42DC's order around so that #46 with the working AC unit would be in the lead so the crew could have a unit with functioning air conditioning. Having worked for UP for getting scary close to 17 years now freight carriers (both class 1's and shortline's) do similar power flips all the time. If a trains schedule is so tight that the time can't be set aside for a power flip rest assure hell will freeze over before dispatch will authorize the movements I can assure you of that.

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[@bowservlogs8216]

Very nice video plus how come did move Locomotives around for??

[@daniellucas6573]

The lead engine's air conditioning wasn't working, and the B32-8W was deadheading for Sandford for servicing. The second P42 took over for the trip north.

[@bowservlogs8216]

@@daniellucas6573 sounds good plus good thing other locomotives is working

[@johnmaloney4838]

wow 6 railroad employees to switch enginess, no wonder amtrak is running out of money

[@Henry5623]

A locomotive engineer, a assistant locomotive engineer (which both are required under FRA law on long distance Amtrak trains) are operating the power. The trains conductor was on the ground with the assistance of other train staff to help hurry the process along. It's standard operating protocol. Amtrak's financial issues have nothing to do with crew sizes but it's a lovely thought if Amtrak's financial issues were THAT simple of an issue to fix...

[@simonenoll7219]

i am from germany dont wonder i say oh tis an amtrak we not so good loks like this

[@charlesdell2864]

Nice catch. What airport is nearby.

[@bradfordgordon6552]

Sanford airport

[@Train538]

Great video! Do you know why they took the Dash 8 off?

[@MurdamanTy]

Dash 8's aren't approved for main line use. Used for dire emergencies on the main and stay in the yard.

[@charlesdell2864]

There are no passengers on this train right.

[@kdabaviation5032]

There was a ton of people on board, one of them was me.

[@cats0182]

And the train was how late after this thing?

[@simonenoll7219]

a this amtrak great

[@kenjr29mfl]

Great video, Joe. What was wrong with the lead engine that they swapped them out?

[@joesmith34]

Yeah I could nt really understand the video. Why change engines Was there a problem with one ..Sort of confusing

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