⁴ᴷ⁶⁰ Amtrak's Brand New Avelia Liberty High-Speed Test Train

[@chrissexton4129]

It kinda bugs me how the shape of the cars don’t line up with the locomotive, but other than that it’s an awesome train

[@JoeyLovesTrains]

A lot of people don’t like the horn, I like it because it’s quirky. Otherwise, I kinda wish 1 or 2 train sets have it, and the rest have normal horns.

[@globial5329]

i think its cuz theyre using acela express's cars or its because the cars have tilt so they must need that shape.

[@jasmienkomugi9026]

What drives me mad is that the design looks way different than the original concept posted by Alstom: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn2kqWmmg6lkmsk I mean take Siemens on the other hand. Or Bombardier for that matter. When they showed off the Cityjet Train or The Talent 3 Train they presented them as 3D Models and the real trains look pretty much just like the 3D models.

[@chrissexton4129]

@@jasmienkomugi9026 that concept video looks amazing! Good find

[@jasmienkomugi9026]

@@chrissexton4129 Yeah. I actually saw it about 2-3 years ago and I thought it looked pretty good. I like the design of the Acela Express and I thought this one looks pretty much as modern as highspeed trains like the CRH380A, ICE4 or the Railjet. But im gonna be honest. The train that they now actually build is kind of disappointing lol.

[@djlawlz4041]

I can’t wait to ride this. You can guarantee when it’s first in service I WILL be on it.

[@ROTE]

Nice! I saw that train in Larchmont NY!

[@DJHTransport]

Awesome!!

[@elizabethross4861]

@@DJHTransport wow ur lucky u got on before anyone else nice vid

[@an_asian_guy]

This is the best update video i've seen today

[@jeremynaraine]

I like the design of that train. These are super fast.

[@channelmoved4743]

Yeah! They are Very Super Fast!

[@ROTE]

They can go up to 220 MPH

[@yann9378]

@@ROTE But they can realistically go 186 mph

[@PreciousAlpschindler]

@@yann9378 not bad... about as fast as the ICE 1 and 2 from Germany

[@NortheastCorridorFilms]

@@PreciousAlpschindler dang. USA is catching up!!! But hopefully we dont go too modern.

[@Hololiamong]

Great video my dude hope to see these trains in service soon

[@BandBHawks]

I was a bit unsure of the shape and livery when I first saw them, but that is one beautiful train!

[@peteriwanow7716]

No doubt a beautiful train. If only it could be used to its full potential from Boston to D. C. The New York to D. C. Corridor is where you get to see the top speeds that get your heart pumping. It takes 3:48 minutes to go from Boston to New York at an average speed of 66 mph. Too much old infrastructure.

[@mobiletransportvideo]

Thought they would have perfectly match the loco car body lines to the passenger cars

[@BIRDIECHANNEL]

And now Amtrak just needs get their act together and start building more rail that can support this service. An NYC to Chicago line via Philly, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland would be so incredible, and I have no doubts that it would become the second most profitable line in the US. If the speed of these trains were to get bumped up to 250ish, it could make the trip in 4 hours, easy.

[@banksrail]

BIRDIECHANNEL Geographically speaking, no. The train would have to cut through the Appalachian Mountains. But I like the concept.

[@BIRDIECHANNEL]

@@banksrail Fair point. I was just basing it off pre-existing Amtrak rail, not much else.

[@banksrail]

BIRDIECHANNEL Look it might not make as much money but would save a ton of money to build instead of drilling through mountains. I think NYC to Chicago taking the route of the Lake Shore Limited through Albany, Buffalo, Cleveland would be more feasible.

[@BIRDIECHANNEL]

@@banksrail Yeah, the actual distance covered is about the same but going north and then west makes more sense. I guess I was just thinking how to incorporate as many big cities into the route as possible. In the end it's not the most important thing, I doubt Amtrak will ever get their act together to make it happen.

[@ROTE]

That would take way too long. It already took several decades to build the northeast corridor. By the time they finish it this train would probably already be retired.

[@Dangoldmedia]

Finally. Can’t believe you’ve had to wait this long for this level of technology and investment. The Alstom Engineering centre near my home service Pendolino’s

[@Urban_Man]

I was at penn station to film this train too!

[@channelmoved4743]

Nice! It’s Looks Like High Speed Train!

[@NJT7023]

Is because it is

[@r179ztrainproductionsgamin6]

Yeah! They are!

[@keitho.sylvan1137]

It was a beautiful sight to see

[@RSDX99]

Many people upset because Amtrak did not consult with them over the design of the train. Ford did not consult with me over the design of the Mustang and Bronco. But I am not a designer just a customer and I think the people who get paid to design know a lot more than we do.

[@MasterTransit_MSDWolf8420]

That's train looks beautiful and incredible

[@robertolopessoares3128]

Congrats!!!!!

[@robertolopessoares3128]

Thank you so much!!!!!

[@magnetique12]

The aerodynamic profile of this Alstom train, in the shape of a duckbill, allows the train not to fly away at high speed, like a spoiler on a racing car. This duckbill shape is found on the Shinkanzen (bullet train in Japan). The TGVs in France do not have this duckbill profile, perhaps because they are old trains. It seems to me that each barrel of water represents a person of approximately 154 lbs (70kg) (I do not know the standards of the tests in the US).

[@amtrak706]

The duck bill is for “aesthetics” not for downforce. These trains are extremely heavy and do not need additional aerodynamic down force, as any lift generated by the carbody is orders of magnitude lower than required to pose a problem. So TGVs being “older” (even though there are brand new ones out there with the same nose) has nothing to do with the design difference of the nose shape. That being said, whoever designed the “aesthetics” of the Avelia power cars was on some serious drugs because these things look ridiculous.

[@robertolopessoares3128]

Very beautiful train!

[@mmrw]

This was really cool! I hadn’t even heard about that train before now

[@geraldgreen5371]

NOW THAT AMTRAK HAS GOTTEN 20 YEARS OF WHAT IT'S LIKE...NOW LET'S GET TRUE HIGH SPEED SERVICE , JUST LIKE The EUROPEANS, NOW GET IT RIGHT!!!

[@GSU_Panther_Nation]

Don't forget China's amazing high speed rail network and how its traincars are filled with people on a daily basis

[@alexverdigris9939]

You might need to change the NEC track and wire to get operational speeds of 186 - 200mph (these are the fastest speeds currently in Europe). How about building a new HSR track from Atlanta - Charlotte - Raleigh - Richmond - DC. Just tell your politicians to pull their fingers out of their assholes and get to work.

[@yann9378]

@@alexverdigris9939 true. Thats a good proposed route. Maybe add another stop in Greenville.

[@NortheastCorridorFilms]

But Hopefully we dont go too modern. I would hate that

[@murrayent1able]

Can't wait till this badboy hit Grand Central 42nd street👍🏽💰🙋🏾‍♂️

[@an_asian_guy]

I wish I could have the old acela trains and more electric routes so I can operate fast services and create the canadian northeast corridor from windsor and quebec city

[@robertolopessoares3128]

I like Amtrak Avelia!

[@NewPSCity]

Nice, I like the colors of the train.

[@owenchuarbx]

This might give up a better idea of how the related Horizon Trainsets will look. The Liberty is essentially the American version of aforementioned TGV successor

[@PGHammer21A]

Because it is; the ONLY differences between the Horizon trainsets - which includes this one - are due to local regulation. In fact, due to Covid-19, Liberty will be the first Horizon trainset to launch - and this summer. (Like the others, it will be a staggered launch; Liberty and current Acela Express will overlap for at least a year due to phase-in/phase-out timetables - the same will be true for the other Horizon trainsets.) As far as this particular trainset goes; I suspect it will head to a museum - also this year - NOT revenue service. (The same applies to the first trainset - still at TTCI Pueblo for testing.)

[@JPlum4090]

4:58 those back lights make the train look Creepy

[@soraforpresident5209]

I like the design and the speed limits of this train. But the only thing I hate about the most is the horn.

[@alexverdigris9939]

Grow up.

[@soraforpresident5209]

@@alexverdigris9939 only a child like you would say that, (so reverse card)

[@AK-gy2vd]

Does the platform gap look a little wider than normal to anyone else?

[@42ndStreetShuttle]

I’ve seen it before but thanks for the info

[@Ostermond]

4:40 you can see, off to the right, that odd Penn Central car stuck in that siding that I think the yard fellas use.

[@Geeves8612]

Funny that the French (Alstom) have always stuck with the two power car design since the arrival of the TGV in the early 80s where as the rest of the world high speed wise went for distributed power a good while ago.

[@atomstarfireproductions8695]

What are the benefits of single or two electric locomotives, as opposed to EMUs?

[@banksrail]

Geeves8612 Alstom actually created the AGV which has it’s powers distributed throughout the train set’s bogies.

[@banksrail]

atom starfire productions There’s a difference between power cars and locomotives. Power cars are considered EMUs since they are connected as one train set. Locomotives can be swapped out and changed. There really isn’t much of a performance difference between Power cars and locomotives. Trains with motors on each bogie tend to have better acceleration.

[@atomstarfireproductions8695]

Banks Rail yeah that was what I meant

[@banksrail]

rtrfan739 The design is interesting, but certainly out of date. If a two power car set fails it will lose 1/2 of the train’s power. That is more detrimental than losing 1/16 on a motor based design.

[@evangouldtransit]

1:22 slowest graham white e bell ive ever heard

[@RainbowSpinDashIsawesome]

They look like bullet trains from Japan

[@atomstarfireproductions8695]

Only major difference in look is Japan uses EMUs instead of two power units

[@curby5]

about time we got something like that here in the US

[@jayydarailfaner549]

Lol i saw ya iPhone what app did you use to put this whole video together

[@ROTE]

Probably some video editing app

[@physetermacrocephalus9986]

“No need to thank me”

[@ameerali.ouarda]

Great to see High-tech European technology finally make its way to the US. Will certainly bring it up to speed with Spain, France, Germany and UK.

[@nilshille1032]

I dont think so

[@hcs4life21]

No, sorry. Americans do trains way better.

[@jellyplayztrainzzz5591]

*man these trains are fast and the inside are fast.*

[@brooklynunreleased5396]

Yea My favorite type of trains are the subway cars they just simple and it's much better

[@lewisasaprichards5649]

R211 coming soon

[@xique1955]

Why not just refurbish the 98-00 models until then?

[@daregoparty4977]

Exactly like why not use a new color scheme

[@TheRailLeaguer]

It’s an expensive undertaking, especially when comparing risk to reward. Getting brand new trains will have the reward of improving passenger service and lowering maintenance costs, outweighing the risk of late deliveries and potential issues

[@banksrail]

JeremiahC99 Not exactly. The reason is because Amtrak doesn’t OWN the old train sets. They are leased. Bombardier owns them and the lease was set for 20 years. Amtrak has to send them back now.

[@TheRailLeaguer]

Banks Rail Oh I understand now.

[@banksrail]

Jaylin Owens Who knows. Possibly scrap them or sell them off to another railroad as test trains. There are a lot of high speed rail projects sprouting up in the US. There’s Texas Central (Houston to Dallas), XpressWest (Las Vegas to LA), CHSRA (Bakersfield to Merced). Maybe one of them will buy a set just to test out the catenary. It’s improbable but still a possibility.

[@MC_Railfans]

2:25 DJ uses a iPhone X to record

[@kraziborscht]

it could be a Xs

[@victorschepers6286]

For this fast trains you need fly overs at any road crossing.

[@coolboss999]

So wait only one train system is equipped to have high speed rail but not others?

[@hcs4life21]

Afraid so. Our infrastructure (from the 50s) is so poorly outdated that trains in other parts of the country can _barely_ reach 70mph.

[@goatof2k716]

What station is this

[@mr.conductorfromsts4204]

Pennsylvania Station, Midtown Manhattan, New York

[@IJTHEENPOTHY]

Amazing

[@aaronsamuel2823]

Goddamit I wish R211 would be here probably any moment now. Ik that the delivery was delayed I think it should be coming in 2 or 3 months the uh R211 pilot test train

[@joermnyc]

Flat sided locomotives and bowed passenger cars... won’t that add wind resistance?

[@JulioGerchman]

Pendolino-family tilting trains? Noooo! I used to do Zurich-Geneva on SBB trains frequently, and I tried to avoid the tilting trains as they caused a lot of nausea. I was not the only one that avoided them. There is some research and experiments on how to better synchronize the tilting motion with the track curvature (mostly, start tilting the train *just before* the track starts curving by using GPS or track transponders instead of accelerometers), but as far as I understand, Alstom still did not incorporate that into Pendolino systems.

[@thechickenstew3716]

the NEC is pretty straight, so the train sets should not tilt that much. also at points where the NEC is curvy, the trains can’t go that quickly and will not need to tilt.

[@willair6278]

A tribute to “regular” AMTRAK

[@anotherview9604]

Is Amtrak considering realigning or rebuilding some of the more dangerous curves? There are very few sections of straight track where the trains would be able to achieve 220 mph. Also when you look directly at the front of the the train it reminds me of squirrel with it's mouth filled with nuts bulging out.

[@chrissexton4129]

I believe the train won’t be able to go over 165 MPH at all. Maybe once there are track improvements it will hit 220 but for now it’s 165

[@pubggamer2022]

Dang the United States turned into Japan 😂

[@bistroofdoom2651]

lmao it looks like the shinkansen tbh

[@ROTE]

It was built by France

[@bistroofdoom2651]

@@ROTE ik but the avelia looks like the Shinkansen E5

[@ROTE]

BistroOfDoom I just saw a few videos of it and in my opinion it looks nothing like the E5

[@justyourtypicalgamer3488]

Railfaner 232 yeah the e5 is longer , it has smaller windows and different nose shape

[@h8GW]

0:38 I see that Amtrak is colluding with our airlines to spray chemtrails along its routes. /s

[@JD-kf2ki]

The livery looks different from the 3D rendered prototype.

[@PGHammer21A]

That is due to design changes between rendering and production; the same was true of the TGV renders vs. TGV-1.

[@JD-kf2ki]

@@PGHammer21A Why not keep the original livery? Did they change their mind?

[@coolcat-nq4mj]

@@JD-kf2ki Because the original livery looked disgusting, im glad they changed it.

[@junglisticlaboratoryunderc1818]

*COOL. NOW BOMB EM WITH FAT LETTERS AND LEGENDARY STYLE FLOW*

[@TheRailLeaguer]

What?

[@8kg.transit]

I met u in real life

[@robertolopessoares3128]

Tooop!

[@Vascog26]

I missed the whole thing whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@NYMR-Pacific]

Its Kinda Disturbing That They Used Cement To Make The Wight Of People. Its Kinda Stereotyping

[@Astrochorius]

WHAT!?!?!?!:_VTrainFKExpress:

[@ROTE]

[@soPheNErr]

How do you place the bmt/ind/jfk express bullets on this comment

[@ROTE]

@@soPheNErr join DJ Hammers Trains channel

[@puyuma8691]

acela express 1998-2020 well hi avelia liberty

[@hulloits4421]

it's not an alstom without badly fitted coupling covers lol

[@ckakalak2]

Brand new Train with tape lol

[@Astrochorius]

FKExpress:

[@bsboneless1]

Only 10mph faster than a train 20years older than new model....not much of an advancement

[@physetermacrocephalus9986]

10 mph faster is only due to the infrastructure. With tilting on, this train can go 186 mph, which is 21 mph faster than the current Acela, and with tilting off it goes 220 mph, which is 55 mph faster than the current Acela:

[@NortheastCorridorFilms]

This train is wicked fast!

[@NortheastCorridorFilms]

They are upgrading tracks. So it will go up to 183, or 203

[@NerdyEngineer]

I think 2 different and opposite minded people worked on locomotives and carriages that's why they don't match at all. 😂