Amy and Josh - Sex and civilised conversation

[@michaelvidal1971]

Donna's reaction to Amy's suggestion of a possible girlfriend for Josh was interesting. I wonder what she thought when she realised Josh and Donna were probablt seeing each other.

[@twokingz04]

She knew damn well Josh and Donna were already shacked up. No way she didn't know. Lmao. 😆😆

[@digital_gravity]

She rolled her eyes when Donna arrived. She knew. It was an intentional dig at both of them. She never stopped liking Josh.

[@dealinginfiction]

This made me respect Santos, so much more. Basically got in Amy's face and told her, if you are in this for your own agenda then leave, like the brat you are trying to convince Santos to go with your views. Or you can grow up and actually work to get it done, the hard way, like the grown ups do. Just because it is easy doesn't mean it is the right way.

[@BenjamUniverse]

No. Santos brought her on the inside to help neutralize her. It's a trick Dems do to people to the left. Amy was a power player on the left and has a long history of actually getting stuff done. That's the way DC works.

[@jackblack9605]

​@@BenjamUniverse I wouldn't say neutralize. Santos wanted Baker for VP but he also knew that he needs the woman demographic support. Instead of symbolic gesture of making a woman VP, he offers Amy Director of Legislative Affairs so they can make real change. Although Amy's passionate about these issues she's always been in the sidelines being critical, so he's giving her access to do something. Just like with Vinick , Santos is able to identify the passionate and knowledge people. checkmate them into positions in his administration.

[@tmoore4075]

Jimmy Smits really did a good job of changing his body language once Santos won. He came across as more confident and presidential.

[@pac401]

Sometimes I wish the show would have gone on for another season just to see Jimmy Smits be president.

[@borednow5838]

+pac401 Me too. Its amazing they kept the quality so high even after Sorkin left. One of the great ever shows.

[@joemckim1183]

@@borednow5838 When Sorking was on the show he wasn't writing every single episode most likely, well maybe the outlines of the episodes. So he had a writing staff even when he was on the show so when he left they all just moved up in rank after being trained by him.

[@borednow5838]

@@joemckim1183 Yeah I'm sure its similar to Whedon on Buffy or Lynch on Twin Peaks (in S1 anyway) where the other writers/directors worked very much to their vision.

[@calebgarrett214]

Obama bombed so th ey had to end it

[@paulzammataro7185]

Alan Alda's character winning and the series continuing even better IMHO

[@sunnchilde]

Wow. This scene leaves me wanting for more from the Santos administration. I would liked to have seen at least the first year of his presidency.

[@jamietodd2560]

I feel like they were stacking the cast because they knew it was ending and that they wouldn't have to write for them. Just a television dream team. With what they were building, who could have written it? Maybe they'd have to get Sorkin to write something like that.

[@flow789]

Donna and Josh :)

[@HollyGoLightly1978]

+flow789 Favorite TV couple ever.

[@briansmith8898]

"It's easier to throw rocks at a house than to build one." Yep, that sums up Amy right there. Being right in your speech isn't enough, you also need people to listen. Bullying people won't work.

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

Jimmy goddamn Smits, ladies and gentlemen.

[@digital_gravity]

Brilliant casting. Wish we could have seen at least one year of his administration.

[@jenniferz.1254]

Does Amy roll her eyes at 1:03 when Donna walks in or is that just me? I really, really want to know what either of the women is thinking about this whole episode.

[@capnskiddies]

I'm not a woman, but it doesn't appear to be that kind of an eye-roll. Otherwise she wouldn't quickly switch to trying to co-opt her into setting Josh up.

[@digital_gravity]

No, she did roll her eyes. Word got out Josh and Donna were in a relationship and Amy never stopped liking Josh. There was an episode after they broke up when she whispered to Josh that she missed him and he heard it and she tried to play it off. She was jealous of Donna here.

[@danlascell9508]

You speed up the clips and it drives me bananas.

[@noahbrown6970]

Shades of his running mate right there: talks with someone working against him and his administration's interest, confronts them about it, lets them know they're not in a position to dictate terms or move the dial, and then offers them a job and a chance to be a force for completely positive change, instead of the half-negative change they would be. Specifically, the woman that leaked Leo's recovery details to the press comes to mind

[@sunnchilde]

I'm still wondering what the hell happened with the crisis in China!

[@Legba85]

sunnchilde for the sake of argument, let's say it ended and everyone lives in peace. Santos did his time and did it gloriously.

[@mikeganzert6666]

what about the droid attack on the wookies?

[@capnskiddies]

Well it became a virus, then protest, then flooding and locusts and maybe there's a long cold war waiting in the wings.

[@NxDoyle]

The dialogue never sounded more contrived than when it was coming out of Amy's talk hole.

[@joemckim1183]

I don't like the way that Amy talks, why does it seem like she pauses in between every single word that she says?

[@gerrynightingale9045]

*It would help a great deal in understanding 'Amy's' dialog if it weren't entirely sotto voce and spoken likethiscontinuoussteamofwordswithoutvocalbreaksofanykind*

[@martythetickler]

So as someone who isn’t American, can someone please explain to me what the Director of Legislative Affairs does?

[@PaperbackWizard]

Well, Congress is the legislature, so without Googling it, I'm going to guess that Legislative Affairs handles all the White House's dealings with Congress, laying out their agenda, that sort of thing. The West Wing never showed anyone in that position. They just had Josh and Sam and Toby and occasionally C.J. take meetings with people. But I think LA is supposed to do that.

[@PaperbackWizard]

Now that I think about it, Ed & Larry might have been from Legislative Affairs. No one ever specified what their roles were in the White House, but they *did* show up at a lot of high-profile meetings.

[@michaelhayden725]

Looking at Amy here you see how she has aged over the 5 or 6 years between her (Amy) arriving at Josh's at 5.14 in the morning.

[@jeffreynocera4017]

Have to admit...Santos was never my favorite...

[@Loxias1989]

Santos is pretty boring

[@nickhooten1747]

Civilized *

[@BradyPostma]

British spelling (with an s) about a show about the American Presidency seems like bad form, doesn't it?

[@capnskiddies]

@@BradyPostma The show was against dumbing it down, keep the 's' in that spirit. And the 'u' in colour & favourite. While we're at it the 'y' in tyre and let's bring back the perfect past tense. "I wish blah would have done... " should read "I wish blah had done... ". I'm not English, but it's simply a better version of the same language.

[@BradyPostma]

@@capnskiddies - I don't think spelling it "-ise" while pronouncing it "-ize" is a mismatch that serves anyone's interests. I'm not saying everyone necessarily needs to switch over, but I am saying that changing from the locally traditional and phonetically correct letter to the phonetically mistaken letter is a better fit for "dumbing down" than is refusing to do so. Also, the show didn't spell it _civilised._ Are you following their lead or not?

[@JusticeFrogs]

civilized*

[@oxymoronified]

Jason Guy our language our spelling

[@BradyPostma]

Our country, our spelling.

[@davlynnolan236]

Oh I HATED Amy in this series!!!

[@willmpet]

Why?

[@kathrynsmith38]

I'm sorry. The last two seasons went to crap.

[@kingpin6989]

I'm sorry you had such a dumb opinion too.

[@FeeDragee123]

Santos is so obnoxious. "it's what the grownups do". Pfff, falsely awe-inspiring rhetorics of loyalty and institutionalized political action is just the death of uncompromising gestures and radical thought. Amy is the best because she pursues her agenda relentlessly, no matter what.

[@mzenji]

BLADE13HJP Rarely have three sentences so overwhelmingly encompassed my thoughts and saved me from having to write a paragraph. I tip my hat to you kind sir or madam, I tip......my hat. (not really wearing a hat but you see where I'm going with this).

[@Exarchs]

It's okay - I'm wearing a hat.

[@bcnihao4934]

"It's what the grownups do" is what Santos overheard Amy say when he entered the scene. He was challenging her to live up to the standard of pragmatism that she herself had set out.

[@JusticeFrogs]

People like amy are needed for tge political process, but so are people like Josh. I don't think Amy is any more liberal than Josh, but Amy pushes as hard as she can for what she thinks is best, and Josh pushes as hard as he can for the best possible outcome.

[@BenjamUniverse]

@@JusticeFrogs No. Amy is to the left of Josh. He also fights for things he doesn't believe in because of who he works for.

[@dvl11]

I really loved Amy. Josh should have ended up with her, IMO.

[@blackgothicrose89]

dee They honestly would've killed each other imo. All of their break ups ended in blows from what I recall. It seemed like an exhausting relationship

[@michelleabad295]

Josh & Amy made better sense than Josh & Donna.

[@dothatwattentwat]

2:20..............IF IT WAS ONLY TRUE..........AS IT WAS MEANT TO BE, IN THE BIBLE!