An *Actually New* RTX 4080 Super - MSI Expert Review + Benchmarks

[@EbonKim]

"Hey, I got a RTX 4080 Super!" "Same here! I got the MSI Expert." "Really? How much did that cost?" "$1150." "Mine was $1000. How does it perform?" "It looks cool."

[@RadialSeeker113]

4080 super fe is just better in everyway imo. Cheaper, better looking, better cooling and same performance.

[@Stanley-px3bt]

I can already see that based upon current gen pricing and the scalpers, I'm a have to buy the 4000 series cards when the 5000 series cards drop.

[@parkerlewis7924]

It honestly looks cool

[@MatthewMMG]

Everyone knows you don't pay for board partner cards for performance. It's 100% aesthetics.

[@JohnSmith-op7ls]

“I just paid $1000 to get a bit more frames from games I waste thousands of hours playing. Doctor says I’ve got onset diabetes and women are disgusted by me, but my new GPU shroud makes up for it!”

[@MacSmithVideo]

Nice that someone is putting a bit of work into making sure the "bottom" (top) of the card looks nice.

[@casualnerdjason6678]

The disappointment I feel every single time that I look at my GPU in its case... it feels like I'm always looking at it wrong.

[@JohnSmith-op7ls]

Damn, how empty is your life

[@casualnerdjason6678]

@@JohnSmith-op7ls Well I stare at my GPU for a couple of hours every afternoon, then put food in my family’s feed trough before resuming for another solid five hours. I’d say that’s a pretty full life. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@JohnSmith-op7ls]

@@casualnerdjason6678 Feel for ya

[@Animosity00]

@@casualnerdjason6678 Vertical mounts bro, they are amazing

[@Demetriiuz]

I hope they continue this EXPERT line into the launch of the 5000 series. I'd pick up a 5080 or 5090 in this design if an FE wasn't available

[@napoficial7123]

You won't.

[@hl236]

That’s a gorgeous GPU design. The most unique one that I have seen so far. It deserves to be mounted vertically to be shown off.

[@BoogersAndMilk]

Would’ve gotten it if it were white or black, but that pewter was a selfish color choice. Got a FE instead

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

I don't do Nvidia and I even think it looks good too..

[@fuzzylumpkins6034]

this. It is a solid statement of some sort. Feels like what a Metal Gear Solid licensed card would look like or that it would not have been out of place in the old military themed asus fx 990 sabertooth motherboard from the AM3 chipset@@marcasswellbmd6922

[@leiyoh3311]

ever seen a founder's edition?

[@Cube930]

You like cheese graters?

[@TheGarner0]

That new design looks pretty damn nice!

[@hendrik3076]

I disagree.

[@AndreHance]

@@hendrik3076thank you for sharing that🤠

[@scottyrz]

I received my Expert card February 1st from Newegg and it reached a clock of 3080mhz on LV and stock cooler in vertical mount. Vertical mount on these cards blesses your MB with great air flow, and usually remains below 70c. Good luck!

[@TheSocialGamer]

Just picked this one up for $1,050.00

[@pyroslev]

If the Founder's Edition is the classic version, this is what happens when a very good company redoes the body while keeping the car's heart. It's gorgeous for an air cooled card. The Suprim is the best looking card of this generation but this is a VERY close second.

[@henryt9731]

nah, the proarts always looks the best

[@AndreHance]

@@henryt9731eh not if you mount them normally i don't think the tops of them look good at all, fan side yes

[@alisch80]

Thank you once again for keeping Microsoft Flight Simulator in your game test line up! Much appreciated!

[@dukedase7]

Why? It doesn't need no fucking 4080 super nor is it insanely graphically intensive or even close.

[@bonjourmssr]

​@@dukedase7 it does, actually, esp if you run multi screen. Plus the biggest demand is vram, so I will take what I can thanks

[@annekedebruyn7797]

MSI should shift their super gimmicky gamer-GPU designs to this style. It looks really good. It honestly looks nearly as good as the founder edition. And regarding the price increase, I don't see anything wrong in having to pay a bit more for a good looking card. Especially when you have a clean PC setup with a glass panel.

[@Leveleup543]

I think I’m finally decided on the 4080 super fe for my new itx build. Last time I built a system Paul was still at the height of his fame with Newegg 😊

[@Mew_York_Kitty]

Me too, back in 2013-so much nostalgia 🤩

[@Royalchieftain]

MSI is truly creating a new standard of refined GPUs. Both this and the Suprim are aestestically pleasing to the eye.

[@simxcenter]

if the clock speeds are higher on the expert, isn't cooling at the same temperature as the FE at base clock a good thing? or am i missing something here

[@L0rd_0f_War]

No disassembly to have a closer look at the coolers??

[@Big_Sierra]

For me it was what I could get. Availability is low and people are scalping, so picking this up for retail cost me less than a Founders Edition. Mad world! But I can’t wait to plug her in.

[@RnG_Ry]

Updates? How’s the temp? Did you over clock it?

[@dlocdlocWS]

Would this be a good card to get to edit 4k video footage? I currently have a 3060 and it handles it but I want better.

[@pcracinggames]

what about teardown for repasting ? FW's are pretty bad on that

[@docbrody]

Great video, BUT PLEASE do a follow up on the $10,000 pc for Joe!!! Did you get it fixed??????

[@oliverturner128]

2:50 nice row there explaining if it is a "Ti" or "Super" 👍

[@AliceAliveOfficial77]

it would be 1000 times better if the row stated "is made of mashed potatoes" and they are all just x, x, x, x...

[@Coollok100]

I don't expect this card to sell very well given the context of the 4080 Super launch, but really hope MSI keeps making more premium, less "gamer-y" cards. I'm not sure drawing inspiration directly from the founders edition is the right move (because I don't know if they'll ever be able to compete on price) - but I'd definitely be willing to pay a bit extra for a well cooled, well built, and not obnoxious looking GPU

[@formulaic78]

Pay extra over the already obnoxiously high price? I bought the cheapest 4080 I could (gigabyte gaming OC) because of the 200 bucks price drop and still resented the last 200 bucks of the new MSRP. Can't imagine paying another 200 bucks over that for anything, especially looks.

[@violian5]

It's hard to beat the looks of the new Super series cards - that stealthy clean/sophisticated looking matte black finish. I already have an RTX 3080 but had to pick up an RTX 4070 Super after seeing how cool it looks.

[@mdkgod43]

Why a 4070 over 4080, the 3080 is just as fast as 4070s

[@indy-biker-stevie]

I've just fitted one to replace an ageing EVGA 1070 FTW from 2017 to go with my new 32" Samsung Odyssey7 monitor, wow what a difference. the only downside was having to spend another £50 odd quid on new cables (1x 12vhpwr side mounting cable & 3x 30cm PCIe cables).

[@Wimpelmann]

No Bios switch??? then i go for the msi slim version....

[@trailingrails9953]

It’s refreshing to see one oem making a new design, especially since the 40-series cooler designs really were lacking aesthetically compared to the 20 and 30 series generations. Perhaps with exception of ZOTAC, whose curvy coolers actually looked fresh.

[@lhaceneleroux3863]

I don't know why but I can't get rid of the cheese grater image in my head after seeing this

[@gallieon8718]

Ah fudge. Now you've ruined it for me. Why you gotta say that?

[@DW-tg7ly]

@@gallieon8718 yup right after I bought the thing:( got a killer $800 deal tho

[@malccy72]

Have an MSI Suprim X 4080 and appears to clock at 2820mhz (without overclocking) at around 57 degrees. I was expecting the expert cooler to perform a lot better than what it does.

[@milandalosur1850]

Seems like 4080’s are better to push hard than super variant so far. Still early though.

[@adaeptzulander2928]

4080 has fewer CUDA cores than the 4080 super.

[@ThunderWolfUE]

I have an MSI RX 5700 EVOKE O.C and it's also completely metal with a very stylish design... It was also *the cheapest* RX 5700 around a few months after launch 🤔

[@fracturedlife1393]

The DIY remount card. Cheap as initial batch had cooler/pad issues? Looked cool though, nice to see different colour shrouds now and again

[@djtribo8925]

Thanks, Paul! The design reminds me of the GTX 480!

[@Merril_39]

Great information and solid review. I would recommend throwing in a previous gen card, probably the 3080 in for a reference point.

[@TheSamohtnj]

how about hot spot temps? memory temps? vrm probably ok but still interesting. How does the cooler perform without the plastic intake shroud on the bottom?

[@iroony89]

I commented with my findings on this exact card “For anyone who is interested in purchasing this card. Hotspot temps sit at around 80 max, Memory temps haven't gone higher than 72 degrees for me. Definitely a great design.”

[@jackshyt950]

Paul did you list your test rig specs? cpu; ram; hd...sorry cant find it

[@DaPoets]

Interesting how we were sent the exact same 2 cards for this launch review cycle. Similar results here on my end.

[@Icedxylophone]

Got any news on when the next AMD gpu series is coming out?

[@Q3Wdoncarlos]

Lovely looking card. Stay safe with the weather my guy

[@SLiX-thatguy11m-]

My concern is I wanna run an air cooler and im slightly concerned the exhausted hot air will affect air flow for a tower. So I guess this is best paired with an AIO?

[@RANDOMNATION907]

Now THAT's a good looking card. . . . . I appreciate card designs that are less Gamery and a bit more mature.

[@fluffytuby14]

Looks like a Luxury car grill. I'm buying AMD this year but this is a handsome GPU.

[@hl236]

Good comparison. Like the grille on a recent mercedes or bmw.

[@KeesHessels]

the other reason is the margins they make on these cards, NVidia does not leave them much room for profit, if any. Another reason to select AMD

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

Thank you so much for this Paul!!! When i saw that design at CES: 1. I was happy to see a new design for a cooler, from anyone!! 2. I was curious how it performed. Caffeinator out.

[@rodhester2166]

How are you liking WFH? cheers.

[@adaeptzulander2928]

Temp seems higher than expected. Are you certain it wasn't OC'ed?

[@KingdomUploader]

That is the first card i've seen that has fans on both sides. Don't these powerful card basically require 3 fans?

[@AlyxSharkBite-2000]

On the silicon quality, I got lucky with the 7900 XTX I got, it runs about 80-100MHz faster than what most reviewers saw, and cooler by 5-7° than most reviews of the make/model and zero coil whine. So yeah it's interesting how the silicon quality can vary from one to another of the same chip.

[@Gjunya]

yeah pretty messed up when these prices are what they are

[@GoufinAround_]

Asus has left a bad impression on me in the last couple of years so I'm really looking into other brands again. It's nice to see great options from other brands as options. Especially when they are doing something a little different

[@chienforcer]

I was able to snag one of these and I am pleased with it. It is out performing my dell MSI OEM RTX 3080 10gb. My 3080 is a great card, after I repasted it to fix the missing thermal pads, it held temps and clock better and is still a great card. I'm passing it down to my fiancee in her first gaming machine. I undervolt my gpus and so far the Expert 4080 Super holds a 2850mhz clock at 45c average at full load drawing around 270w. Not too shabby. My 3080 after repaste held 2085mhz at 72c average (82c average on the t-junction) but at 325w at full load. EDIT: I forgot to mention how quiet this Expert 4080 Super is...you knew when my 3080 was being worked because the fans would really ramp up.... this Expert edition card is almost asleep for most of my normal gaming, during RE4 it will hit closer to 50c but still silent compared to my 3080. This is because I undervolt it in afterburner. I had two 4080 FE supers in two different carts that evaporated as I was trying to complete the orders... I went with the MSI Expert because it looked like a FE and was in stock... but it went out of stock shortly after I was able to complete my order from Newegg.

[@TheSwayzeTrain]

I am genuinely surprised to hear that it is outperforming your 3080 10Gb....

[@Slackerdude74]

I have been trying for over a year to get a 4080 founders edition but haven’t had any luck, and now I am trying to get a 4080 super founders edition but I just can’t. I really want a 4080 super founders edition, but are really hard to get. :(

[@Krymzonnet]

Is it a (half) blower? It seems Paul is showing it from every side other than the back - why, why?

[@frankytanky5076]

Still happy I got my 7900xtx way back. It’s still quite good rt if you want that, but I’m any other case basically wipes the floor with anything but the 4090. Pretty insane value to have a card that is often cheaper than even the 4080 super but has raster and vram at just under a 4090 level.

[@seeminglyforever]

Just bought one. Hope is is much better than my current setup with rtx 4070

[@calebwaniger2642]

Mine will be delivered today. Coming from 4070 as well. Using 4070 for a build to sell to my buddy

[@seeminglyforever]

@@calebwaniger2642 that's so nice, mine is coming tomorrow. Have a white build and currently running on 4070 Fe. Felling so bad about selling it. Is is still an amazing card.such a great deal for your friend... My new ZOTAC trinity rtx 4080 super will suit it nicely hopefully :)

[@hardlyworgen71]

Did you get the latest VBIOS from MSI?

[@MadmanLink]

I had really hoped the cooling would be more effective, allowing a bit better over clock.

[@edwardwilliams3815]

trying to flip my current setup so I can build a 4080 Super build, im wanting a 4080 Super FE or the MSI Expert 4080 Super, as those 2 cards appeal to me the most atm :) gg great vid :)

[@sjewkes1]

Hopefully they add these unique designs into the next round of GPUs. I'd love to see cards that don't basically look like replicas of each other. Now they just need non-garbage GPUs to put them on. It also goes to show A) what a not great value the 80 series cards were this time around, and just how stupidly powerful the 4090 is still.

[@Dre_Key]

How many frames more, makes spending more money for almost the same thing worth it?

[@james_karst8825]

I think I need to upgrade my 3600 and 3060 12gb for game dev should I go to a 5900x and a 7800xt or upgrade to AM5 and get a new gpu later? Reply

[@420C0BRA]

it makes me look at the 7900xt even more lol

[@TECHiSuppose]

It does look really nice, but the added cost and other properties like noise performance shown here make it a bit of an odd choice for people into that range of card.

[@hunn20004]

So what I'd consider buying at the moment. A 4080 super or 7900xt/xtx/8x00xt The power connector is currently the winning bet and I see why i shouldn't spend 850€ for it instead of 1200€+ for XTX/80super. And from what I understand, the 8000 series will target the 4080 level of performance, which is fair enough, but it will now expedite my purchase, especially considering that I don't plan to upgrade my mobo for another decade at least.

[@UKKNGaming]

lol 7900XTX is still a beast considering that most AIB for the 7900XTX OC/UV potential is going to put you way ahead any 4080/S Asus Strix is the best card they have and that card is not touching a tuned 7900XTX no matter how you configure it.

[@anthonyholmes5965]

I really like the look of this card, but another $150 for pure esthetics is a bit much. When I bought my 4080 Ventus it was only $30 markup. It’s funny how much the super markups are.

[@SirLugash]

The design looks pretty but only if you plan to vertically mount it. It's too bad that the design isn't incorporated on both sides because If you mount it horizontally, you will only see a huge flat surface with visible screws and an ugly sticker... (7:28)

[@realmach5]

Nice looking card but unfortunate that you have to pay an extra $150 to get worse cooling compared to FE. Hopefully they can improve on this design for the 50xx cards.

[@steffenhazegaming7962]

Mine just arrived yesterday pairing it with ryzen 9 7900x and 64gb ddr5 6400mhz ram and 1200watt psu gonna be rebuilt tomm

[@kieran9882]

I think the price cut is great and all, but it looks like the scalpers on Ebay have them, so it’s much more expensive than the regular card

[@TheFinalOutpost]

I'm legit building a new PC and can't decide on a GPU - I was eyeing the 4080 super, but the prices I'm seeing are $1,500-$1,700. Might as well get a 4090 ASUS TUF for $2,000

[@SkateClipsAndTips]

All the scalpers bought the 4080 supers, no surprise there. The white one is being sold for almost 2k, 1899.99

[@tomgreene5388]

They were in stock for the first 5ish hours of launch. The white one is the one I grabbed. Early bird gets the gpu.

[@frijin490]

Finally someone has ditched 1080p resolution from tests.

[@BrandonWestfall]

That card actually looks pretty cool. Pun intended.

[@buxtech]

I love the design, would be a no brainer for me at $50 premium for a no RGB or workstation/sff build. $150 is a bit much. Maybe I will find one when people panic sell their new cards when the new series launches.

[@videocardzrule354]

The 4080 Super Expert has a higher TDP max than a 4080 Super FE. Maybe that’s why it was warmer?

[@Greenytica]

480 throw back design? Kind of love it.

[@J_..._]

I like the look of the card other than the angle/orientation of the grill. Also looks like it's choking airflow.

[@ANRO_ANRO]

Is this going to work in my ROG STRIX X570-E motherboard?? I just ordered this but im crossing fingers that it will…grrrr

[@XiaOmegaX]

Doesn't cool as well as FE, while being larger and unable to fit in many SFF cases. While using cheap fan bearings (FE uses mag-lev)...odd bargain.

[@ThaoNguyen-mx8zr]

He did a great job of saving me from “upgrading” to the same card I already have. New card runs hotter, runs louder, and has virtually no increase in performance.

[@kingcrackedhen3572]

I want to see dual bios on more graphics cards as a safety net more than anything, I’ve had a few cards bios brick all of a sudden

[@neo6289]

Looks awesome, does it look +$150 over the msrp with worse cooler?????

[@LEK]

Yes it does.

[@NTATchannelNickTaylor]

On Amazon (currently) the MSI card is 1069 and the FE is 1426...

[@mula-vic9224]

no RGB ? i have now the 3080 suprim-X and i love the RGB details

[@billbollinger3748]

Looks neat. This card might look pretty good in a gun metal/brushed aluminum system.

[@turks1966]

4080 Supers get a little faster by feeding it more power, but this accounts for the higher heat as a result for the cards use.

[@CrypticCyphers]

How about a Superman theme build?..could be fun with the color scheme and name theme colors in rgb and color cables.

[@jwfpeters85]

I have a tuf and its a shame you vant set the fans lower then 30% because they never go above and the card has enough headroom to go lower rpm making it as good as Silent

[@deeeich267]

Can we get a thumbscrew ash tray or cigar cutter?

[@xm58]

MSI did a good job on designing this card, its beautiful

[@Booth73]

My question is how did u get Paul's hardware to sponsor the video? That's a super hard sponsor to get to sponsor anything, but u got them to so it. CONGRATS

[@MrHonestZ1]

Looking upgrade my system as it is from my 2080 and so either a 4070 super or the 4080 super it'd be a major upgrade what I have

[@Artificial.Unintelligence]

hey look, someone included the 7900XTX and 4090FE for comparison. Thanks Paul

[@Yuu_Touko]

I really wanted this, but it wasn't available on the launch here where I live, so I went with an Asus TUF RTX 4080S for a nice msrp.

[@denniscampoverde-lema1214]

SO is the 4090 FE the best GPU?

[@statue191]

Normally when you go add more cores you lose some speed due to higher thermal concentration in the silicon.

[@seethruhead7119]

put the 6950xt results back on the chart

[@MD-wn4ui]

Bought mine for 650 in may or 23. Definitely worth having on the charts.

[@PainkillerDCXVI]

Nice kitchen appliance for 1150 bucks.

[@MrLincoln87]

Dual bios switches should be on the expansion slot mounts (don't think that's the right name, but where the HDMI/DP outputs are) So on the outside of the case. Are you going to review the MSI "slim" hahaha 3 slot slim card - asus proart is 2.5 slot... what was msi thinking

[@DJaquithFL]

MSI must be loving you today. 👍💓

[@fuzzylumpkins6034]

Reminds me of a hasbro walkie talkie I had in 1989. I hated it but still hits the feels. Aesthetics do not improve my pc as it remains hidden so paying anymore for fairy lights and designs only make it to my rigs if it comes with the component I was buying anyways and a very strict requirement , it cannot be a 40 series gpu. I still have a bad taste with how flagrantly Nvidia gouged loyalist this time and the 7900xt will hold me over to AM6 just fine. Cheers for the review. It felt like this round of pointless "super" releases and the crazy embargos, would never end. edit: The performance difference of the 4070 ti super/ 4080 and 4080 supers in comparison to price is insulting. The 4070 ti super at the £500 range would have been a stellar release.

[@Cloudypoo]

What happened to slightly more than msrp? 1050 at most for this piece when it's hardly better than the FE

[@Xeanthorn]

I had this paused at 1:59 and could have sworn you were telling me these are NOT the droids I'm looking for.

[@Dan-bh8jd]

Hi Paul your window 11 version still 22H2 I think you should have window up to date

[@riezalyncacapit1502]

Hello sir, Does it fit in the pc case Phantek evol shift?

[@anonymous4gent]

my biggest pet peeve is how the upper fan keeps blowing hot air to the CPU, which is a disaster if you are using a 14900k.