An Artist and a Kitsch-painter sit down to talk about Cancel Culture | Interview with Magnus Vanebo

[@judithdeverell1120]

Thank you. I admire your bravery and integrity. I hope that we can all stand up and speak the truth.

[@lasaron]

Bananihue!! Great episode

[@gspurlock1118]

Thank you for this video. I am sorry that wokeness has reached Scandinavia. You handled it very well. And, I'm glad to hear that you are both familiar with James Lindsay. The more I listen to him, the more impressed I am. He is clearly one of the great scholars and thinkers of our time. I also recommend listening to some of Jordan Peterson's recent interviews. He recently released one where creativity was one of the main topics. Please keep up the good work and creating great representational art.

[@hilarychandler3621]

it strikes me through this discussion how the terror of the kangaroo courts of the French Revolution came about. I wonder why things do not go to the court when these behaviours become slanderous and libelous.

[@emanuel_soundtrack]

reminder to everyone : it is possible to be original artist and not leftist at same time

[@wierdo225]

Beautifuly said

[@timbomilko5367]

A very interesting discussion. Thank you both. Clearly, where racism, misogyny or bigotry are part of idea generation, it is right to question its motivation (though not the artists right to express it). However, I strikes me that art that is fixed by a rather amorphous (and often questionable) ideology becomes a type of amorphous propaganda ... my mind is drawn to the Soviet realism of the 40-60s. Undoubtedly wonderful depersonalised socialist representation can emerge, but it remains largely depersonalised and amorphous in its propaganda(ised) representation. Again, thanks for the discussion and the risk you took in challenging a 'social media' meme type of accusations based on unsubstantiated assumptions made.

[@andresglucas]

Hola amigos esta dificil subtitulos enespañol .gracias.

[@oskarnss3555]

Ser bra ut, Magnus!

[@michaelspear2682]

I believe I understand that classical art and the classical style has a place in the modern world. What I do not understand is branding "social justice" and the "equality of men" as a leftist ideal which will lead to the decay of the western culture. Here in the USA, the people that have coined the term "cancel culture" are the radical right whose white nationalistic ideas of western culture is white men rule, people of color do not matter, in fact the world does not matter. If you are standing in brackish water up to your knees due to global warming or are suffering under a classical dictator, stay where you are and never immigrate to my backyard. Most of the people at the top of that pyramid own most of the wealth and consequently own and buy most of the art that you are railing against. They not some left wing liberal would be the first to school you about the "invisible hand". The freedom of production and a free market economy. If the system is rigged, I would say that it is probably one of those free market capitalists that did it in the drawing room. Hey, you are an artist, you chose to be what you are, look through your classical history, how many great artists died penniless, physically destitute due to sickness and disease and were buried in unmarked graves. Here you guys are trying to legislate your greatness, saying buy my art because it is the best, it is the saviour of the western culture. I like your art, but your whining is nothing short of a classical 5 year old.

[@GrafWattenburg]

While I agree with your opposition to cancel culture, I do grow tired of it being such an oft repeated theme. If you want to preserve classic ideals in art, how about educating us philistines on those topics? Show us an in-depth analysis of a painting and why it is great, for instance, instead of just complaining about the same thing over and over.

[@jan-ovetuv3836]

We cover that in our other videos, such as our «Studio Visits», «Master Classes» and «Dark Flames» - as well as conversations on f.ex. what you can learn from Aristotle’s Poetics or Blake Snyder’s book on screenwriting («Save the Cat»).

[@GrafWattenburg]

@@jan-ovetuv3836 I must admit I was not aware of your School of Apelles channel, thank you very much!

[@jan-ovetuv3836]

@@GrafWattenburg You are welcome. Thank you for your comment!

[@petetube99]

It's hell being white. ffs

[@LebaneseBaron]

Why should any cultural institution, Western or non-Western, commit itself to pleasing Social Justice groups? A bunch of activists obsessed with diversity and hedonism are the opposite of what a society needs to develop its culture. In fact, it has been under the auspices of normative hedonism (defining pleasure as the only good) that so much derailing from such higher purposes has occurred. As pleasure is the most individual and subjective standard there is, the requirements of what constitutes a correct action are relaxed to the utmost degree. Under this view, all foreign and diverse elements *must* be welcomed and protected, which is done by doing away with the norms and standards for what is considered correct and desirable. Thus, the only harmful action is considered to be the limitation of others' freedom to please themselves. Beauty standards? Screw that, beauty is subjective; no one has the higher ground to tell you a baroque building looks better than a concrete box. Norwegian art? How dare these Northern Europeans stick to their own cultural productions! They need to recognize their privilege (which one? Idk) and make room for everyone in their institutions. Doesn't matter if they have to give up the very purpose of exclusively promoting their culture; they must please everyone, else they're bigots (even though every culture and civilisation in history has only cared about itself). It's also worth noting: Modernism [in art] overlaps with Social Justice in many ways due to similarities in their approach to what is considered good, as mentioned before. Unsurprisingly, the similarity in principles is also why you find traditionalists making a stand for traditionalist art.